The UNSOLVED Mystery Of Humans Becoming Pokemon

[@blakdeth]

The dex says the boy woke up as kadabra. And abra is always asleep. I'm pretty sure the boy transformed into an abra first, but didn't wake up until he evolved

[@Agent719]

Honestly thought you were going to say the Abra was dreaming it was a boy, but then woke up when it evolved.

[@katieb9428]

Honestly I have no idea how this theory never occurred to me. It makes so much sense! Yet I still wonder how humans turn into Pokémon in the first place

[@wulfryanseptim8592]

This makes much more sense than my old believe that Abra was an unofficial baby

[@mrb5940]

Ok, that sounds terifying

[@pigcatapult]

Oh snap

[@wisgarus]

My head canon is that the Dex entries talking about humans becoming Pokemon are just fairy tales. Galar fossils proved that canonically not all entries are true

[@andrewcople1453]

I Never had problem with those entries. I mean if a lamma can make the universe then a ghost can have been once a human

[@-ism8153]

@@andrewcople1453 I'm pretty happy with saying that the former isn't true, either.

[@andrewcople1453]

@@-ism8153 and im happy saying that the pokemon world does not follow real world logic and all pokedex entries are true except for galar fossils

[@wisgarus]

@@andrewcople1453 Well, fortunately there's no confirmation for the vast majority of the bizzare ones, so it is effectively up to interpretation. I just prefer a Pokemon world where Pokemon are not eaten, where Pokemon aren't murderers or kidnappers and where human souls don't randomly inhabit certain Pomemon's eggs or however it is supposed to work.

[@bubbykins4864]

The Galar fossils are abominations of alchemy, and Cara Less is not even remotely official, so they're the only dex entries undisputably false. The others have different levels of timelines where they have truth to them. The more "out there" it is, the less timelines it is not exaggeration or outright lies.

[@HoopsandHipHop]

I can explain the discrepancy between gengar being human and gastly being made of gas. Gastly is a fart that came from that human. This is why it is part poison type You may not like it, but this is official Pokémon lore.

[@Lumberjack_king]

XD

[@avramweiss4125]

Ha I love this

[@laimaoda8443]

ha ha

[@friendbreakfast]

when you mentioned Bill at the start and taking into account the title of the video, I thought at some point you'd mention how Bill himself turned himself into a Pokémon in the first game using his machine, that with context looked kinda like a trade machine or something

[@APlusProds]

I think that evidence helps support the case of DNA mixing when trading Pokemon

[@friendbreakfast]

@@APlusProds Yeah, that would have been the BEST evidence to point out, specifically because Bill actually was important for the theory in the first place, so at least a small mention of it would not be out of place.

[@typemasters2871]

Trade held items, in the anime (Hoenn region) there is an episode that shows that a Pokemon only needs to hold onto said item (clampearl as the example in the episode) for a certain length of time for the Pokemon to evolve without any trades needed And even in Johto we see slowpoke evolve by just wearing the kings rock and waiting for a shellder to bite it

[@theduskullsociety8095]

Exactly. Plus Misty's Poliwhirl also evolved this way. Because of that Clamperl episode, I had a Clamperl in its 50s without evolving into Huntail. It was outrageous

[@critzstorm]

The genuine love with which Toby always says "Soar High" always gets me

[@Heroism4499]

back during gen 4 my school's playground theory on why some pokemon trade evolve the way that they do is because they feel extreme amounts of stress from you leaving them and they undergo their transformation to become stronger to either: A) make them more desirable to take you back. B) make themselves stronger to beat you up later.

[@michaelsingh8487]

Both people and Pokemon have spirit energy. If a person dies in their sleep, their spirit goes into an Abra egg and their consciousness only wakes up once they evolve.

[@animorph17]

Imagine an abra just accidentally used it's psychic powers to devour the soul of a random child, copying the kid's memories into it's own mind. And then because the abra was asleep the whole time it didn't have any memories of it's own, leaving only the human memories for context as to who it was.

[@Airkong423]

@@animorph17 FUN FACT:ABRA CAN'T USE HIS PSYCHIC POWERS TILL HE EVOLVES

[@PansyPops]

@@Airkong423 Pokemon platinum pokedex entry: “Using its *PSYCHIC POWER* is such a strain on its brain it needs to sleep for 18 hours a day”. Most of its pokedex entries also refer to its ability to read minds, sense danger while asleep, teleport and use telekinesis, which seems like psychic powers to me. I have no clue where you got the idea where Abra can’t use its psychic powers until it evolves, but it’s quite frankly wrong. Non of Abra’s dex entries refers to the inability to use psychic powers. If the reason is because it can’t learn psychic, then think again since it can learn it through Technical Record. In Abra’s arsenal is a long list of psychic moves, such as Psychic, Psychic Terrain, Safeguard, Light Screen, Teleport, Confusion, and that’s just scratching the surface. Please, if you want to say something, make sure it’s correct. We don’t want people spreading more misinformation, do we?

[@sarthakarora3212]

@@PansyPops None of those are attacks. Abra has no offenseive moves cause he is weak.

[@animorph17]

@@sarthakarora3212 Psstt- Psychic and Confusion are both attacks that deal damage. In fact they are the signature Psychic attacks that most such pokemon rely on in the early game and end-game respectively. Have ... have you never played the games? Or ever watched the show?

[@BenSmith-ox3lm]

toby would honestly be a top tier professor in the pokemon world

[@Airkong423]

Nah I will use my Garchomp to kill Toby

[@Airkong423]

@JustSomeGuyOnTheNet JUST LIKE YOUR FATHER HAD ISSUES THAT'S WHY YOU WERE BORN....... I WAS JUST JOKING LOL

[@josephapsey9965]

I always assumed that the accelgor and escavalier trade wasn’t a mix of genetic material, more that karabast stole shelmets shell and so escavalier has a shell now, and accelgor without a heavy shell is now faster, a reference to real life insects that eat snails but leave the shells

[@gabriellockwood2780]

That's exactly it though lol Karrablast is based on a tick/mite that eats snails. The Accelgor, who was a snail is wrapped in bandages, implying that Escavalier is wearing the shell/armor of the other Pokémon. (Honestly, should've been: - Karrablast Bug/- Shelmet Bug/Steel Escavalier Bug/Steel Accelgor Bug/Fighting

[@rhett8729]

This is exactly how it happens in the anime too

[@jameshartley9401]

The Pokemon Zukan book you reference at the beginning of the video actually explains that the "boy turned into a Kadabra" entry is from an in-universe book, the Pokemon world version of Kafka's Metamorphosis. It's fictional, but that context is missing from the in-game Pokedex, so it gets misunderstood as a real event.

[@DogPerson626]

My headcanon for a while has been that gengar’s line is from people who died in highly poisonous gas

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

You do find them by the first Gen's biggest city.

[@allister-malister9179]

They say that in gastly’s description in one of the games so it may actually be cannon.

[@shadowmarauder6033]

I have an idea that makes this whole theory even darker: what if while trading, the human-turned-Kadabra and the haunter actually SWITCH bodies and SHARE memories? That way the Gengar was human (since it was the human-turned-Kadabra) and the alakazam gets both psychic and spiritual powers

[@joeyfrost5248]

I was actually thinking the same thing as I watched the video xD

[@TheFunwichHorror]

That discord notification sound at 12:17 got me lmao good one

[@duskmoonlight8705]

same

[@snoogans2891]

I've always thought that the Channelers in the Pokemon tower were possessed by ghastlys and haunters. They mostly, if not all, all only have a singular Pokemon and one actually says "thank you for freeing me" (or something) after you defeat them. So if Ghastly possesses a human for long enough, it evolves into Haunter.

[@ChampionBlaze]

Wow! I know this is just a theory, but it’s so darn compelling. The relationship and similarities between the Gengar & Alakazam line in terms of trading is so cool. I’m loving the new content. Even tho it’s less frequent every upload has felt more and more high quality and really feels like a Bird Keeper Toby video!

[@SzaraWilk]

In Alola school one Kadabra disgise himself as a whole class, so Abra can disgise himself as human child.

[@nonymouswisp8176]

The anime is a separate cannon from the games

[@SzaraWilk]

@@nonymouswisp8176 i'm telling about side quest in game.

[@nonymouswisp8176]

@@SzaraWilk oh

[@robertlupa8273]

@@SzaraWilk Wait, WHAT!?

[@SzaraWilk]

@@robertlupa8273 in Ultra version of Sun&Moon you can find that side quest.

[@miasmacaron]

You know it's a good theory when it has me smacking my head like "how did I not think of this??"

[@KaiCyreus]

maybe we'd find something if we gave the first Mystery Dungeon a replay! the depicted dichotomy here of Alakazam vs Gengar exists there, Alakazam being the leader of a heroic team and Gengar being the leader of an evil team, and also having used to be a human i used to think that Gastly evolved into a Haunter when a recently-passed, possibly evil human's spirit merged with a Gastly, but this is also pretty convincing..

[@candyneige6609]

Considering that the Mystery Dungeon games take place in the past, it's possible if not even probable that some of the stories told in the times of Mystery Dungeon gets passed on and eventually appears in some Pokédex entries, albeit in a twisted and distorted form, because history fades to legend and then to myth, and along the way, some details got changed, replaced, or outright added or removed, resulting in an inaccurate but recognizable telling of a real story.

[@KaiCyreus]

@@candyneige6609 i haven't heard the idea that MD takes place in the past, but i haven't played since the Gates to Infinity demo.. seems pretty believable tho

[@candyneige6609]

@@KaiCyreus Not only is it believable, it's even confirmed that the Mystery Dungeon games take place in the past.

[@KaiCyreus]

@@candyneige6609 cool! i was of the (albeit uninformed) opinion that Mystery Dungeon worlds are simply parts of the planet that humans had not yet discovered, but that's nice to hear

[@candyneige6609]

@@KaiCyreus Exactly.

[@fruit3193]

I treat the Kadabra story as just that - a story, an old wives’ tale. It didn’t actually happen. In the case of Haunter, I think it’s the soul of a dead human that was reborn as a Pokémon, combining with naturally-occurring poisonous gases. I wonder if trade evolutions happen due to the stress of trading, for the ones with no additional requirements. Either the physical trading process, or the idea of leaving the current trainer.

[@WOLKsite]

I'd consider the dead human thing an old wives' tale as well...

[@victoriagreer7609]

Ya know with this possibility and the lore with the legendaries and mythicals like mew and mewtwo for example. I now want trainers to have their pokemon have nicknames. like, think your fighting a scientist and before they fight they say something about their dead friend brings a ghost type out with a nickname and after you beat them they tell you that their pokemon is named after their friend ya know.

[@gabriellockwood2780]

@Bird Keeper Toby What if the Evolution-Trade Items are pieces/parts of other Pokémon ??? The Metal Coat from like Registeel? King's *ROCK* Regirock, since Regice is so heavily tied to the "Nevermelt Ice"???

[@kingdomnubs]

Interesting thought, which leads me to speculate that they might be a smaller scale “mega” evolution to some extent. On average, they all seem to cause a drastic change in their appearance more so than standard evolutions. Similar to the megastones, these items could have an excesses reservoir of life energy causing the sudden evolution upon trade.

[@kingdomnubs]

Trade items in general to clarify

[@gabriellockwood2780]

@@kingdomnubs That kinda makes sense as well.

[@gabriellockwood2780]

@@kingdomnubs I'd really like Pokémon to stop introducing one-off Trade Items//Evolution Items, and use the ones they already have lol Like with Hisuian//Johtovian(?) Sneasel--both forms use the Razor Claw, but during the Day and Night, respectively.

[@SponsorNo1]

Pokedex entries sometimes just gets bat**** crazy. Honestly, some of these entries are just mental.

[@taiga738]

Translating an official Japan only book about the gen 1 pokedex confirmed that the full version of Kadabra pokedex entry is actually about an in universe piece of fiction based on an IRL book about a man who woke up as a giant insect. It also had some other stuff that the early anime referenced which suggests they had access to it. The idea of trading exchanging some traits is pretty interesting though, especially since the ones who evolve with an item seem to have that item become part of them. It could also be something like a more lowkey, permanent version of how mega evolution works and the power involved in the trading process permanently alters the pokemon without necessarily needing to interact with a specific pokemon.

[@theautisticcreative2619]

The fossil record is missing a Psychic type ape fossil Pokemon that learns Fighting, Normal and Fire type moves. This being the evolutionary nexus of people and Pokemon. With humans and ape Pokemon branching from this. It's the only way to explain why some people have Psychic abilities and why there are Psychic type Pokemon, while also explaining the various Monkey Pokemon that are a mix of Normal/Fighting/Fire/Psychic. I suppose the closest relative to this unknown fossil ape Pokemon is Oranguru, it has human level intelligence and above, making it a primary point of research.

[@Mattno.777]

Maybe its just a Myth, Heck, Remember the Garden of Eden? We dont know if it Exists and theres no Evidence of it.

[@theautisticcreative2619]

@@Mattno.777 The only way we'd know is if someone re-examines Mew's D.N.A. in game and finds a distant link between humans and Pokemon. Or a region, let's say one based on Africa gives us the Nexus creature in question. We know all life (bar many legends and Mythicals) come from Mew. Maybe in that world humans evolved from something that came from Mew.

[@animorph17]

Humans don't lay eggs, meaning they can't have any relation to pokemon. You'd either need to find human fossils some 30 million years back to when the first pokemon traits were emerging (we know when Evolutionary stages first emerged, but we don't know when the propensity to lay eggs came about) or you'd need to find at least one instance of a pokemon that doesn't lay eggs, OR you'd need to find an instance of humans actually laying eggs alongside the sex+pregnancy that have already been shown in the anime. Remember that researchers can't even tell where the eggs come from, and "The pokemon just found it laying around" is an actual theory that scientists in the show haven't been able to disprove, directly competing with an opposed, unconfirmed hypothesis that the eggs come from the pokemon. This is alongside other oddities such as the fact those eggs can hear what you're saying, understand human speech with alarming capacity, and can actively choose to not hatch out of spite if the egg doesn't like what you're saying to it. Upon hatching they are immediately able to talk and have full understanding of what both humans and other pokemon are saying to it. Humans meanwhile, grow up in slow, gradual increments over the course of years and aren't able to really talk until three years old. An actual pokemon can make it to a champion level battler and casually destroy mountains by that time, as shown by Ash's donphan who competed with champions while less than a year old. Your best bets on this are the two ... exactly two ... pokemon who might, MIGHT, give live birth instead of laying eggs, unless the ideas for such were openly retconned. First one is mew who was said to give live birth to baby mews in the original japanese text for the original red/blue games. This was changed for squick related reasons in every version since, and no other mention of how mew reproduces has come about. Except that it's decidedly not in any known egg group (just like all the other legendaries) and it is confirmed to reproduce, to have a species population, and serve as the origin of all pokemon life. Every pokemon can trace it's ancestry back to mew, but we have no idea if the same applies to humans or not, let alone when that might have happened or why humans are so VASTLY divergent in every possible way. It's very plausible that Mew do not lay eggs at all, their egg group being undiscovered because it simply doesn't produce eggs, and it's likewise plausible that Mew grow up in incremental stages the way all earth life forms do. As shown by how Mewtwo doesn't have Evolutionary stages. It starts as a baby and then gradually gets larger until reaching an adult size. The second bet would be Lugia. The pokemon originally designed as the designated middle point between pokemon and humanity. That was it's intended purpose and the reason it looks the way it does, and the guy who made it was so pissed about Lugia getting a male voice actor for it's movie that he spent time on his deathbed ranting about it. Lugia are known to be a species with a population that do reproduce, they have young baby Lugias that then grow up gradually in incremental stages over the course of years. Also being in an undiscovered egg group, it is entirely plausible that they don't lay eggs at all either and instead give live birth like an actual mammal. The fact Lugia is expressly stated to be closer to humans than any other pokemon, it's narrative and Mythical purpose is to serve as the bridge connecting these two sides, could in fact be literal with humans coming from Lugia through some method. Evolutionary or otherwise. Getting actual data on how and why is going to be the harder part. Orangaru is completely rules out by the simple fact it's not even a mammal. Birds and Bats both have wings, but morphological taxonification is the single stupidest method one could possibly use to try and discover the origin of species. Just because the bible is dumb enough to claim bats and birds are the same thing doesn't mean you should follow in their logic. Orangaru lay eggs, while humans give live birth, there is no possible connection between them without going much further back.

[@christiankoll1528]

@@animorph17 the platypus is an egg laying mamal, perhaps oranguru is a monotreme? But seriously, I think the correct answer is this is a video game made for children and the exact science behind pokemon evolution and reproduction wasn't entirely fleshed out upon release.

[@animorph17]

@@christiankoll1528 Needs to be able to learn "Milk Drink" in order to qualify, otherwise it's something completely separated from real world phylum. And that's assuming that the magical regenerative properties of the move "Milk Drink" is actually milk, and not just infinity energy formed into a vaguely milklike substance. Pretty sure it's real milk. You can make ice cream out of it, so it should be.

[@EightViolett]

The Shelmet / Karrablast thing doesn't have anything to do with genetics. Karrablast steals Shelmet's shell and turns it into armor, while the now shell-less shelmet becomes much more agile and faster without the shell weighing it down.

[@KLGB76]

When I saw the title of the video, I thought we were gonna talk about Yamask...

[@giovannigonzalez3318]

These trade evolutions are some of my favorite Pokemon. This discussion about possible traits that swap is just a dream. I love love LOVE this. The Kadabra and Hunter link is just 🤯

[@RazePhoenixx]

Lol Toby the ending references Game Theory.

[@onijester56]

Collab, maybe? *prays to cthulhu for it to happen*

[@billykepner4938]

I’ve seen multiple videos recently of youtubers borrowings unrelated youtubers catchphrases and I love it!

[@hazzard_destroyer]

Intriguing lol ❤️ keep up the amazing work

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Aw thnak you :D

[@fizer4021]

Damn its always so intertaining and fun to watch ur videos. Keep up the good work man!

[@SweetMudkip]

Wow, I have never expected it jsjs As always, another incredible video!! ♡♡

[@Katana-232]

Love all your Pokémon theories Toby! Keep up the amazing work! ❤️

[@arjunabhyankar85]

Also, Kadabra's tail disappears when trade and Gengar gets one. Coincidence? Maybe not.

[@vegetafan9922]

But Haunter already has a tail. It's the classic Casper leg-less ghost tail but it's still a tail

[@arjunabhyankar85]

@@vegetafan9922 I don't think that qualifies as a tail though, it just seems like a part of the main spiky body

[@purple1439]

As a little kid I always thought it would be scary to transform into a pokemon now it would be cool

[@BirdKeeperToby]

aahhaah which Pokemon woudl you want to tranform into?

[@purple1439]

@@BirdKeeperToby either Charizard or Druddigon flight would be great and I use them a lot

[@kappaprimus]

@@BirdKeeperToby ditto😏

[@lillianmutesus1646]

@@BirdKeeperToby lucario

[@Sniffpod]

12:16 that discord ping tho XD

[@ArcturaWolf]

Keep it up toby! I love your vids!

[@Daniel_Coffman]

You forgot a Pokemon in Gen 1 who evolved by trading; Raichu. I'm totally not expecting some people to get whooshed on that, lol.

[@morrigankasa570]

WTF?! Raichu evolved by Thunderstone even Gen 1

[@Daniel_Coffman]

@@morrigankasa570 That's a different direction for that whoosh than I was expecting! I wasn't talking about how Pikachu evolves. I was making reference to the guy on Cinnabar Island in English Pokemon Red who you traded your Raichu to in exchange for his Electrode. He says after that trade, "The Raichu you traded me went and evolved!" I don't remember what the trade was in Japanese, but I remember that it was that you traded this person one of the Pokemon that evolve via trading, where he then says that that Pokemon evolved. The localizers never took into account that they changed it to Raichu and Electrode, and left that text as is.

[@morrigankasa570]

@@Daniel_Coffman Oh, I never traded with anyone except for Jynx, Lickitung, and Farfetch trade people.

[@Daniel_Coffman]

@@morrigankasa570 I see. Yeah, the "Raichu evolved" bit is I think kind of what started the whole rumor behind "Gorochu," lol.

[@morrigankasa570]

@@Daniel_Coffman huh the more you learn, my first pokemon game was Red Version and never knew that before.

[@genndybyrd]

Great video Toby!

[@AbsolXGuardian]

If the formerly human Kadabra/Gengar thing only referred to one specific exceptional Kadabra, things could get really sad. The boy was a lab assistant, and after he got turned into a Kadabra, he was traded in a trade-back trade because Alakazam's greater intelligence would make it easier to live as one. This one done with the consent of him and his parents. Someone at the research facility had a Haunter they'd like to evolve, but after the trade back, it was found that the Alakazam didn't have the boy's mind in it anymore. The Gengar did, but it had become warped because of the influence of the Gengar.

[@paperIrori]

OMFG, I'm screenshotting this. Thanks for making my day!

[@ScarletCandlelight]

In Pokémon X Y show states that a Pokémon will evolve in trade for it is trying to show its owner how strong it is and evolves as a last attempt to be trained back. This also in Gen 1 spoke of how Pokémon get upset being traded

[@seantheimp]

A note on their design-element swap: it always bothered me that Kadabra lost its tail after evolution, and Haunter gained a big bulbous body. Maybe Kadabra's tail falls off and Haunter inhabits it? That way they both have that bit of human in them. Just a thought.

[@tsukune4595]

Thank you for your research Bird Keeper Toby

[@dowottboy5889]

You don't need specifically FRLG to get the Gengar in the old chateau, you just need any gen 3 pokémon game

[@docstoise196]

I don't care whether or not this was Gamefreak's intention from the start, you're absolutely correct

[@TheJH1015]

Toby, you're wrong about Gastly's Dex entries not referencing anything about being human. I quote: Ultra Moon: "Poisonous gas comprises 95% of its body. It’s said that the remaining 5% is made up of the souls of those who died from the gas." Ultra Sun: "It’s said that gas emanating from a graveyard was possessed by the grievances of the deceased and thus became a Pokémon." Yes, Gastly wasn't a physical human turned into a pokemon, but it contains the *souls* of them, and thus their experiences and memories of being human.

[@Kahadi]

I don't believe the Pokedex entries as indisputable fact. However, it is interesting seeing these connections between Pokemon that aren't stated to be connected. An interesting one tor the Abra line and the Ghastly line that isn't mentioned much goes along with their types. While both psychic and ghost types were very rare and powerful in gen 1, their full typings of psychic and ghost/poison has a link in that, when type advantages are calculated properly (which they weren't in gen 1), they beat each other. Ghost beats psychic which, in turn, beats poison. Its like the starter triangle in a way that only works with two Pokemon. Also, regarding trade evolutions, there's a video by DYKG about a lost Pokedex released in Japan. I can't find the source they referenced for it (they have a link in the description to helixchamber, but the specific post linked is about lost cards from the TCG and I can't find any mention of this Pokedex anywhere on it), but they claim to have bought and translated a copy of it. Point is, I can't check and verify what they said at all. But the book is written by early researchers of Pokemon and, when talking about Golem and Machamp, it mentions that they are believed to be the evolutions of Graveller and Machoke, but nobody has witnessed their evolution, and while most Pokemon evolve by growing, its evident they do not. As they say in the video, the information given is intended to be accurate research as of that point, but despite being accurate, there are things the researchers don't know yet. Point is, in the Pokemon world, while trade evolutions had been studied in the wild (or at least Golem and Machamp, didn't fully rewatch the video but a quick skim doesn't show Alakazam or Gengar), how they evolve was unknown to the point where they couldn't even guarantee what they evolved from. Considering Bill invented the Pokemon Transporter, this would suggest that it is somehow possible without trade evolutions, but the method is unknown, and the trade machine simply accomplishes the same goal. Personally, I always saw it as being related to infinity energy (or Pokemon energy before they canonized infinity energy). As a Pokemon gained levels, the amount of energy inside of them would increase until they could evolve. Items give certain kinds of energy, similar to how this energy affects types for Pokemon and their attacks (thus the difference between biting something and the move Bite, or between water and water type moves), and thus letting Pokemon that couldn't get enough of that energy normally get enough with the help of an item. In turn, trading would bring with it an extreme amount of this energy, more than a Pokemon could typically get otherwise, letting some Pokemon evolve by trading, with trade items effectively acting like a lens, converting this energy into a specific kind as needed for the evolution. But, of course, that's just how I personally saw things. The idea of trading mixing DNA does also make sense given how we meet Bill and the similarities of some trade evolutions. Of course there is still the problem of how it works for newer trade evolutions that don't require held items or specific Pokemon, like Gigalith. Being introduced in the same region as Escavalier and Accelgor, the idea of software limitations goes out the window, not to mention being harder to find another trade evolution they share a connection with.

[@NickCharles]

Honestly that dex entry for Kadabra kinda creeped me out as a kid. I probably lost some sleep over it lol.

[@SJrad]

the gen 1 trade evolutions dont need to be traded like karablast and Shelmet are traded for evolution, they just need to be traded regardless what the other pokemon is. although speaking of gengar previously being a human, the gengar in PMD used to be the human that screwed over gardevoir.

[@the_ark_king]

I believe that karrablast steals shelmet's armour, as Shelmet is a species that karrablast preys on, so it tries to eat the Shelmet. But then the trade makes them transfer so fast that karrablast couldn't eat it, then using the armour to become escavalier, and Shelmet without it's armour must become accelgor to survive. But that's just what i think

[@loganbelcher4983]

I just started following but ive been really curious about a pokemon that doesnt get a lot of notice. Shuckle and dunsparce. They are just kind of stand outs with nor real connection or explanation that ive found.

[@AidanRatnage]

Surely they would have retconned the evolution methods for those Gen 1 Pokémon, they've done it with others like Milotic and Leafeon.

[@chronic_daydreamer]

Yeah I don’t think they gave a lot of thought to some of the old entries. Something canon to remember is that Sinnoh lore explains that Pokémon and humans were once indistinguishable. So humans came from Pokémon and humans can also become Pokémon. The core concept of life within Pokémon as a series is that all life is connected and constantly changing.

[@allister-malister9179]

Ah yes my favorite Pokémon… dead tree kid

[@TheDeathmail]

Here is the thing, Pokedex are things that don't cite sources very well. They don't always say what is legend, rumor, fact, story or misunderstanding. For instance, Cubone's entry about it's mom might be more of a legend than fact... Cubone are BORN with the skulls after all.

[@candyneige6609]

However, Ninetales' entry about its millennium long curse is very real... in the Ninetales legend, which is a very real event by the way, a trainer encountered a Ninetales and grabbed one of its tails, so the Ninetales cursed the trainer but his Gardevoir took the curse instead and the trainer fled the scene, so the Ninetales told the Gardevoir that the trainer will one day return as a Pokémon, and sure enough, a millennium later, the trainer returned as a Gengar.

[@Celestia282]

I have no idea what you're talking about Toby. Ghost was literally the worst type in Gen 1. It was only super effective against itself, completely lost to psychic, and its only moves were Lick and Night Shade. Even bug was better than that.

[@candyneige6609]

You forgot Rescue Team, Explorers, Gates to Infinity, and Super, which all features the protagonist as a human turned Pokémon as well.

[@silverbullet1620]

Bird Keeper Toby, you can catch fully evolved trade Pokemon in Sword and Shield.

[@torazely]

Could easily be explained that people released them because they didn't want the evolved pokemon, just the original

[@Needl_V]

@@torazely You mean like the fossils in the crown tundra?

[@torazely]

@@Needl_V exactly. released by various trainers who either wanted them to be free or jsut didn't want the pokemon anymore.especially with how many fossils exist of htem nowadays, certain games you can literally buy the fossils. the pokemon are no longer rare.

[@rithikrajgavishluximon6812]

9:57 could it be that Kadabra and Alakazam were created by humans, before Mewtwo?

[@the_clawing_chaos]

Nightshade and Lick and Poison secondary type would like to object to Ghost types being amongst the strongest pokemon in Gen 1

[@Ironmat98]

12:24 Copyright enfredgment

[@cofagrigusfan24]

what about the other trade evolutions? (that don't require a hold item or something else) Gigalith, Conkeldurr, Trevenant & Gourgeist

[@thedrake5000]

i think that humans in the pokemon world are part pokemon and either by accident or with a special training they can use the power of the pokemon dna within them. like for example the "aura guardians" Sir Aaron, Riley and even Ash, maybe they can sense the feelings of pokemon as well as the aura that Riolu and Lucario send out, because they are part Riolu or Lucario as well. and maybe that kid that turned into kadabra was part abra and for some reason his psychic power level increased so much his human body cant handle it while its get close to the condition of abra evolving into kadabra. so his body decided to activate his pokemon dna part and he evolved into kadabra

[@Zohnho]

a film theoryyyy annnnnnnd...

[@martinkredl3794]

I think haunter steals kadabras soul, which makes them both stronger

[@CamKoudo]

Uploaded 6 minutes ago?! :O Never have I been so early to a video! xD

[@M_Alexander]

Wait is Bill 30 in Gen 1?

[@WOLKsite]

The only issue with the Haunter/Kadabra and Graveler/Machoke connections is that they don't need to be traded for each other... Is this to be treated like Slowpoke's evolution and relation to Shellder?

[@sand747]

toby brings this up after talking about shelmet and karrablast

[@jacobonline6994]

12:18 thought that was my discord lmao

[@Taydar]

But Toby, Gastlys pokedex entry does mention it was once a person.

[@SAWFD1413]

haunter seems to be comprised of a gaseous head & hands(3 main pieces) and upon evolving alakazam is 1 being with 2 spoons? maybe those spoons are the haunter hands in the trade, yet what bodily aspect gets traded onto gengar?

[@henriquecallegas322]

Legs

[@james4thedoctor482]

This theory is top notch!

[@ahuman359]

Japan exclusive gen 1 book says that the Kadabra thing was just a story or legend or whatever.

[@Argent_Void]

For some reason when I read the title the first thing that came to my mind was the girl from Unova. I have no idea why

[@5Porygon]

Jsi jeden z nejšikulinkaťoulinkatějších šikulků z celého Šikulkova na celém šikulkovském světě. :)

[@kamensentai9286]

Can you do a theory on Drowzee and Hypno

[@joshjavimtzchz9108]

Haces muy buenos videos cuidador de aves

[@matthewpatrick5139]

So Pokémon like graveler and machoke have a trade evolution. Wonder what it would be like if they had a natural level up evo?

[@mistaken_stranger8343]

I always thought Bill was supposed to be a 10 year old boy

[@ImMcDumb]

Pokemon Legends Arceus I would love to win the game. and you were the first person I subbed to on youtube

[@dragoniteknight4043]

anyone else notice how Haunter and kadabra have somewhat similar faces and their ears are almost identical?

[@FireFoxDestroyer]

bill is steve jobs

[@Kwigglett]

Ahhh, trade evolutions… the thing so unobtainable to child-me

[@DaenaMichelle]

BK Toby is developing into dad-bod, me likes

[@henriquecallegas322]

But what about Abra? Kadabra would be a "fusion" between Abra and a human? This would take the battle bond/mega evolution thing (pokémon merging with their trainers to get a whole new level of power, even evolving) to a much higher level

[@TitusX17]

That's just a theory, a POKEMON theory. Soar high Pokémon masters!

[@jeffbrownstain]

Item based evolution is exactly why you shouldn't use final forms on your tree of life and only use what's naturally found in the wild. Every item based evolution not caused by a stone may as well be considered man-made GMO.

[@matthewmatthew8941]

Bill was mashed with a Pokémon when I first met him....

[@PokeCastle]

You basically turn into Kadabra (or Abra if you're lazy yet nerd) when you gather veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy much Pokemon knowledge and then gets Teleported into Pokemon World. When you get into trading machine you come to know last thing you need to know about Pokemon AKA what's in a trading machine. After coming to know this you get 5000 pokemon IQ and evolve into Alakazam.

[@Neku628]

Didn't you forget Poliwhirl? Doesn't it evolve when traded with a king's rock?

[@brocksmith7650]

Would the DNA swap be the child’s spirit be what gets swapped, making Alakazam a possessed body?

[@WarmLillie]

Lillie: “Taking DNA for evolution… I wonder if could improve myself a bit by getting a few strain for myself but who DNA so I could soon become best girl?…”

[@theginkgo]

Data, information, meteorites... 😄

[@thisisasupersayin376]

The BKT poketheory universe grows ever stronger

[@brendancorey7831]

I almost wonder if the boy was an Abra who was dreaming it was a human. Fooling everyone else.

[@drewschannel9767]

Okay, this is starting to freak me out..😂

[@jakegrigg4142]

November 27 will be my wedding anniversary :) Bill chose a nice day to be born hahaha

[@jakegrigg4142]

Wedding is this year (2021) in Nov 😅

[@dcbandit]

If Red and Blue wrote the pokedex, then I would question the viability of it. Either they made it all up on the spot, or they gathered it from rumors about the pokemon from the people they meet, like how the Brothers Grimm gathered their fairytales. I think it would be a fun game actually compiling the pokedex like that.

[@PKMNResearcherSkyler]

Imagine if in Legends Arceus you are the one writing the dex entries, relying on talking to npcs for lore and legends about each pokémon

[@dcbandit]

@@PKMNResearcherSkyler if what we know about the game is true, that just might be what we do in the game. I sure hope so!

[@PKMNResearcherSkyler]

@@dcbandit I would love if part of the game is investigating the local legends about pokémon, perhaps seeing some of the events first hand

[@dcbandit]

@@PKMNResearcherSkyler it's something I didn't know I wanted till now. It sounds like a lot of fun collecting the folk lore of pokemon, I always wondered where those entries came from.

[@PKMNResearcherSkyler]

@@dcbandit I bet a lot of them are local folklore, rumors, and fairytales, or behavior observed in the wild

[@WarmLillie]

Lillie: “My mother became part UB so I’m not surprised of human becoming pokeball… I even have her pokeball.” “I mean nihilego beast ball…”