The Untold Story of the Birth of Foiling in the America’s Cup

[@Daveinet]

This seems strange. They are talking like it was the first foiling boat, but cats and tris had been foiling for many years before 2012.

[@MichaelDreksler]

We need more of these 👍👍 So much technical history to enjoy

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

I admire the Kiwi ingenuity when it came to developing flying 72' cats. I was there in 2013 to see the big boys flying down SF bay and it was a spectacle that is much more impressive in person than simply taking it in on a screen. However I just don't get the new AC boat's design parameters. The articulating foils - up and down - with a windward scythe flying through the air at 50 knots just seems to be solving a problem that only exists because of the insistence on using a single Archimedian hull instead of two or three. The 72's and 60's were dangerous as it is, but with these mono's, I fear what will ultimately happen in a dialup situation pre-start - especially if Ainsle is driving.

[@Bobbyhewitt23]

Savage

[@SirBobMarley1]

Innovative thinking outside the square box trails improvements, to where they are leading, ahead of there challenges, continuous improvement is the key to been the best without compromising all the key aspects of the team boat

[@staxter6]

I assume you're a Business Consultant?

[@nads274]

Such an amazing bunch of people

[@philipbyrnes7501]

Go cousin kiwis, kick some yankee arse for your Aussie brothers lol, you guys are pure brilliant, 11 stars out of 10

[@honawikeepa5813]

Impressive. Kia kaha!

[@repentuklondonwatchman1373]

Splendid

[@lionelbass1505]

Great work

[@Thomas_de_Meijer]

Must have had some good crashes. I know from experience towing from the COE feels good in the groove, but there is no depower option to spill some power.

[@juliegogo2941]

I the early seventies as a child I was on a scow (though dad raced snipes from the early sixties) with the bilgeboards similar.. concept it appears. As well, as the really old motor boats... also I witnessed in the sixties those really loud small hydrofoil racing boats....Thanks

[@CraigRamsay]

Heyyyy Pete!

[@MrFurriephillips]

Fabulous!

[@simonthomas3740]

If you look at the achives of the ayrs.org (Amateur Yacht Reseach Society) you will see that a lot of invention and innovation happened years before the NZ tried the technology :)

[@TristanCunhasprofile]

This video seems to say that the rules for the first AC72s technically allowed for foiling, but that no one knew if it was actually possible? Which seems weird since the Golden Gate yacht club developed the design and it seems like they've must've had foiling in mind at that time, right?

[@zbeekerm]

More interviews with Goobs (Gubes?) please!

[@cliffordbradford8910]

TNZ were innovative with the AC72 and then with the cyclors and then basically threw it all out by going to monos.

[@kevinlangley6078]

So when do we see the new mono hull version. Britain and the Americans have boats in the water. One suspects Team NZ has some exciting technology waiting to be revealed and we not slow on development. Go Emirates Team NZ

[@TheSailingFamily]

Great video. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how the other teams caught on to your innovation and if you feel you showed your hand too early. If it had been kept a secret longer do you think you would have won the AC32? How and why was your development shared? That's a story for sure! Nice work guys!

[@andrewpegman7959]

The Sailing Family imo they did win. It’s just the winning race got called off within site of the finish line due to time

[@zimbonz]

@@andrewpegman7959 you are correct, but the rules is the rules. I am more interested in the story of how the Oracle boat magically were able to sail a perfect foil, basically overnight. there is the real story...

[@maxhugen]

Maybe they'd also seen videos of the French foiling tri "Hydroptere" reaching 50 knots!

[@marksaxon2468]

RESPECT

[@Ricanae205]

Whoooah lake arapuni not slot of people no where that is but the locals good testing ground

[@hobbesandjethro9682]

Foiling technology was invented by the American Navy during WWII.

[@zoepaulastrassfield2664]

The hydrofoil goes way back before then-- Alexander Graham Bell invented one of the first ones at the turn of the century! But they've only really been adopted in sailing within this century.

[@superhoriguy3164]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Forlanini

[@thesailingkiwi]

sweet

[@santos.l.halper1999]

And then you revealed your hand too early and wasted 4 years. Never again.....

[@andrewpegman7959]

Michael Jordan yes that’s what I thought too

[@CheersWarren]

Great story,shame to spoil all that technology with a crazy hybrid monohull. I guess you've got some technology you haven't shared that will be another step up? Warren

[@Zickafoose2024]

Amazing no one talks about Bell and Baldwins hydrofoil experiments in Nova Scotia in the 40s

[@gordonthomas4292]

F#$cking genius

[@tomramsdahlchristensen1875]

Safran

[@mandolinut]

They should go back to monohulls

[@scotthamilton6062]

They have

[@milesmoore8705]

Sorry nice try Kiwi's in taking bragging rights of foiling AC development, but the Americans had you beat in using it in the Little AC. Much of the US knowledge came from that, along from other non NZ sources. Still hats of to NZ contributions to foiling. The AC75 for the next AC is a bad bad idea, they should have stuck with the cats. If anything this next AC will solidify why cats are better cost wise, safety, foiling efficiency, etc.

[@claussteinenbohmer44]

No mention of the c-class catamarans. I'm gonna dig that history up a bit cuz I thought they had developed that earlier than the AC class....

[@milesmoore8705]

@@claussteinenbohmer44 Yep C-Class for sure did a ton of foiling development. Also Windrider Wave, Longshot record setter that resulted in the Hobie TriFoiler, still the worlds fasted production foiler. So there was a good amount of foiling way before the AC ever even considered foiling. Heck even way back I saw a Hobie 18 with foils attached to it, that took flight and that was in the 80's.

[@jped5900]

@@milesmoore8705 Not sure what Little AC is, but ETNZ isn't saying they invented foiling. They are claiming that they are the ones to first develop an AC boat that foils, hence the "birth of foiling in the America's Cup". Foiling was mainly develop by France sometime ago.

[@bills3282]

Sorry nice try Americans! Fred Eaton of Canada built a foiling C-Class cat long before any Americans did. Their first effort foiled well but was not competitive across all conditions with "normal" C-Class cats. Ask Steve Clark (the American father of the C-Class renaissance) - he knows the history and he fostered the open information sharing environment which catapulted the C-Class ahead. Steve Killing did the core design work, Magnus, Fredo & Rob provided leadership and Fredo funded the whole Canadian foiling revolution. The America's Cup teams ALL came to Newport to see the C-Class foiling developments before they started to develop foiling America's Cup boats. Magnus from the Toronto C-Class team ended up working for BMW Oracle in their first foiling team.