The Untold Truth Of The Stanford Prison Experiment

The Stanford Prison Experiment is one of the most infamous science experiments of all time. The psychological experiment, which took place in 1971, saw Stanford students take on the roles of prisoners and guards in a mock prison.
The goal was to see how the students would treat each other when they had power dynamics assigned to them, but the experiment ended up teaching us more about society than anyone could have expected, which led to it being shut down early.
From the planning that went into it to the effects it had on the students, let’s take a look at the untold truth of the Stanford Prison Experiment.
#Truth #History #Experiment
The experiment begins | 0:00
Welcome to prison | 1:08
The prisoners rebel | 2:00
Prisoner #8612 loses his mind | 2:46
Meet John Wayne | 3:31
Things fall apart | 4:42
Aftermath | 6:06
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[@GrungeHQ]

Do you think you'd ever participate in something like this? How do you think you'd fare?

[@marandachapman8650]

Grunge i could/would, but only as a guard lol

[@karenhall8596]

Grunge; No, I wouldn't--I think society is showing the truth of what happens when certain people of a certain mentality has power over others, with what they feel are no limits. Where I live (Clearfield, PA), there are three guards who are in hot water for handcuffing an inmate and then ramming him into the steel frame of a prison door repeatedly and beating him. Then you see all the police shootings--people getting shot in the back or getting shot at a traffic stop with the excuse that they were "in fear for their lives". So, no--I agree that most people start out with good intentions, wanting to uphold the law, but there are way too many out there who think that they're above the law themselves and begin to feel entitled to punish people themselves, in any manner they choose.

[@morg3726]

Not with the researcher getting so close. His objectivity went away. If it were like the 2001case then yes.

[@mandy6190]

Firstly I wouldn’t enter any experiments, but if I did, if I was a prisoner I would fake mental illness if the experience sucked, if i was a guard, I know I’m not really empathetic but I’m way too lazy to be sadistic, if I was a guard I would probably just sleep all day and pretend what everybody else is doing is not happening cause I’m too lazy to do anything about it.

[@dfcvda]

its banned but, no.

[@marksilla8276]

I think the entire experiment was ruined once the scientist got in the mix and started giving the "guards" ideas.

[@WIACZO]

the entire premise of the experiment was based upon lies. This experiment is fake: nypost.com/2018/06/14/famed-stanford-prison-experiment-was-a-fraud-scientist-says/

[@myname3960]

Unfortunately while that article does seem to have some compelling information, none of it is provable.

[@BananaPlasm]

The experiment is used as an example of how not to conduct research. The results are highly skewed and have already debunked multiple times.

[@MeisterHaar]

to be honest there is a big problem with debunking the experiment and that is, the experiment is one of the best know in psychology and the ideas and implications are even more known to the public. if you want to redo it you would have to find people who never heard about it but are comparable to the old group. yes the research was badly done and the results are to be take with more then just a grain of salt but debunking it by redoing it is also very problematic because i would assume many people have heard about that stuff at least partially which totally skewed the results in a different way.

[@DanLaw559]

@Ivan Smith You are not alone. I've been arrested twice and soon to be a third time. I have been and still remain an innocent man. I live in fear of the police. I try not to leave my home, but they came to my home with a court order. A social service I use for assistance offered me a ride to the court because it was set for early in the morning outside of town. Without a ride I could not present my evidence of innocence. So now, I likely have a warrant against me. The service I use still hasn't responded to me. I cannot help but wonder if it was all a set up. I am an anarchist. I have been since some time after my first arrest. I was in denial and shock at first, but eventually I accepted the truth.

[@diveenvarma5068]

The professor should have faced criminal charges for his acts.

[@L._.A-06]

Diveen Varma was this volunteered

[@diveenvarma5068]

DocDum volunteering to something is not a license to violate someone. This is a case of negligence and harassment.

[@L._.A-06]

I mean I understand but before you volunteer you should think about what your getting yourself into

[@diveenvarma5068]

DocDum but they were never explained what they are getting into. The rule was that there will be no physical assault but that rule was broken and the professor did nothing about it also he himself was the warden so in a way he encouraged it.

[@SS-ee5tk]

First of all it was all volunteered + he said in his documentary that when they signed the paper they could’ve quit whenever they wanted and it is a physical research....

[@erictaylor5462]

"Nobody told me not to do it. Nobody tried to stop me." People that avoid doing these sorts of things ONLY because people tell them not to, should not be trusted. He doesn't even feel any shame about what he did! He even smiles as he tells the story, and passes the responsibility to some other person.This guy is a monster. Is anyone besides myself horrified by this?

[@getadruuu]

People like him make the world to a worse place and make the problems and violence we have today.

[@erictaylor5462]

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think this. But after two months and just one answer... It's possible you and I are both crazy. I hope not, but the number of responses here worries me.

[@mariamsafoora2419]

Yes! And the professor, too! Not only did he get away with it himself, I read that he testified in DEFENSE of the convicted guard in the Abu Ghraib incident saying "the guard is a wonderful man who did these horrible things", something about circumstances. But the prosecutor won me over because he apparently said "how much training does a grown man need to know that what they did with these prisoners is wrong." I'm honestly so done with people painting a halo over the heads of abusers, giving excuses for their horrible behavior

[@erictaylor5462]

I'm not sure why modern society is so obsessed with justifying bad behavior. It seems every portrayal of a fictional (or even real) serial killer involves some childhood trauma. I would bet there is not one single human on this planet who has not suffered a childhood trauma, and those few who haven't just haven't had time yet (babies). Child abuse does not create bad adults from good children. In most cases bad adults have ALWAYS been bad. It's an excuse to transfer responsibility. "It wasn't Ted Bundy's fault he killed all those people. He was abused as a child." Bullshit! Ted Bundy killed people because he WANTED to kill people. He enjoyed it! He wasn't a victim of anything, he was just a bad person. Most victims of child abuse grow up to be good, wonderful people. Abuse doesn't make good people bad.

[@jam_jor]

Eric Taylor I agree that he did disgusting things but I can see why he did it. If all the guards played nice than the whole “experiment” would’ve been bullshit. Guards irl do some pretty bad stuff where the only people to keep them in line are their superiors and in this case, his superiors didn’t. So yes, while the things he did were disgusting and shouldn’t have been done, he had an intersecting and perhaps even the “right” idea, just taken too far.

[@a_literal_brick]

It’s incredible that it only took a couple days for it to all go to hell. Humans are so easily corruptible.

[@bananachips_gaysquad_2937]

Stephen Budders Humans are easily corruptible in the mind but not as corruptible in the body which can be a bad thing.

[@gagabun607]

You make that sound like you’re not a human.

[@arpansamuel6499]

Did you not hear what happened anyone would be corrupted under these circumstances and it took six days

[@bluebox2395]

No. It's just the guards personality is twisted. And to add more, that demon zimbardo even encouraging the twisted behavior. If not for his wife, he would be sued by the prisoners for sure

[@randomguy4738]

Sued? He would've went to jail for the mental damage.

[@sh.a.3333]

It seems to me Philip Zimbardo is kind of sadistic himself.

[@snezanakascelan910]

He really is not, he is actually a propagator of heroic behaviour. You should maybe check out his epic Ted speech.

[@harshitjaiswal5529]

I think he is. Afterall he didn't stop the the experiment even when it got really physical and instead sided with the guards and hence currupting the result of the experiment. If it wasn't for his girlfriend the experiment wouldn't have stopped until someone died

[@harshitjaiswal5529]

@@snezanakascelan910 ever watched American psycho a sadistic person mostly seems convincing and it is pretty evident that he is a bit sadistic

[@snezanakascelan910]

@@harshitjaiswal5529 That's your subjective impression due to his potrayal in this exact example. But if you were to dig deeper into his work, you'd see what his all about: heroism, compassion and strong sense of morality.

[@harshitjaiswal5529]

@@snezanakascelan910 I don't think a person who did this kind of 'experiment' has any sense of morality but I respect your opinion dig deeper to see myself if he is as compationate as you say so

[@SES4L]

The problem is assuming people are inherently good

[@youcanthandlemyname7393]

i agree. i think most people strive to be good but if people were inherently good then we would never have to try to make the right decisions. people are inherently selfish but concepts like good and evil are to broad to say people are inherently one or the other because they have both good and bad quality's. one thing i have learned in my life is profit is a far better motivator for peoples actions then right or wrong is. in this experiment their was simply more profit in doing the wrong thing then their was in doing the right thing and thats what motivated them into doing the wrong thing. its also why they never called out their fellow guards because their was no profit in it for them to call them out but their was loss in it for them if they did call them out as they would then be more likely to be called out for their own abuses of power.

[@larptm9083]

It all depends on there upbringing,morals, and environment.some people are fine in a safe place but many crumble when they loose food or security and there not capable of being self sufficient

[@lucasbushnell845]

Marcus Forte Gods family I agree to an extent, but if you look at children before they’re taught anything you see how selfish they are. They want all the toys they don’t want to share. They want all the attention. To me it feels like we’re taught to be nice but are inherently selfish as beings.

[@btragedy]

SWERVE amazing comment

[@MrAdrien1999]

People are formed by their material conditions, not a “nature”

[@Thommy2n]

How exactly does Zimbardo expect anyone to take him seriously when 1. He knew the outcome he wanted and did whatever he could to attain it. 2. He explicitly coached the guards on how to behave (those punishment and torture methods weren't spontaneous. He learned about them consulting former inmates and suggested them to the guards). 3. The moment he put on the persona of the prison warden, he lost any right to call himself the researcher & outside observer. He was an active participant. 4. He now uses this heavily unethical (even by the standards of his day) experiment to argue on the behalf of the abusers (including the guards at Abu Ghraib.) And most importantly 5. Every single replication of his experiment (the cornerstone to reliable science) has failed to wind up like his hellhole. They all wound up being more akin to summer camp.

[@daniala1703]

He literally gets off on power. His girlfriend was his student like????

[@lauraw.7008]

@Thommy2n You are correct, but no one went through all his notes until recently. By the time someone looked through all his notes, his "study" had already been published in lots of books and taught for years in schools.

[@scholarwork6060]

wasn't funded by the CIA or US Intelligence? San Francisco is one big experimental town/ Berkeley and Stanford and Vaccaville, and San Quentin

[@domukas00]

Dave Eshelman, he says he is a good guy... He's an evil man inside and he still find excuses to say that it was the professors fault...

[@bigdumbstupid2698]

domukas00 But he’s literally not if you look into it more 1. He’s actually a pretty good guy and 2. That was kinda the whole point of the experiment to see how far someone could go and 3. Everyone had physcological evaluations before and after the experiment and he didn’t show any signs of sadistic tendencies or mental health issues and especially didn’t show signs of being a sociopath or a psychopath. He did what he thought he was supposed to. But go off I guess

[@joebidenisapedophile]

@@bigdumbstupid2698 they are both sick people these "physcological" evaluations are absolute bullshit just like this whole experiment

[@rillest75]

@@bigdumbstupid2698 How's it going Eshelman?

[@cyjan3k823]

I like how AFTER this ended everyone tries to convince other that all of it was just to make experiment better, its not like they are crazy

[@shannonleesing]

John Wayne retells the story with such glee and actually enjoys himself, he seems the type to get off on humiliation and control of others. Scary guy.

[@saif_ak_comedy]

"prison is a reflection of society." - Dostoyevsky

[@jennablurr7597]

Saif Abu-Kandil "The degree of civilisation in a society is revealed by entering its prisons." is what Dostoyevsky actually said. If you're gonna quote philosophers on KZbin get it right, man.

[@saif_ak_comedy]

jennablurr 75 and you must be fluent in Russian to have gotten the translation of what a Russian writer said many years ago in RUSSIAN...

[@jennablurr7597]

Saif Abu-Kandil and a time traveler. To have lived then and hear him first hand not that it was written..

[@Garytheblastoise]

I love that siege map

[@jonsnor4313]

Sweden and Finland and many socialistic countries in Europe have humane or and very rehabilitating prisons. Or are not fucked up as us prisons.

[@angel-gu8co]

disgusting "experiment", i'm impressed by the movie as it seems to portray to story accurately in a more relatable way

[@wbuchek]

None of this is "untold." It's actually all really well documented and talked about. This is good information, but don't call it "untold." That's just stupid.

[@AlexanderMaungVO]

eh, lay people (ie; people not in the psych field) don't really know much about it, if at all. I knew of the experiment but my buddy did not, so I looked to find this video and learned quite a bit of the specifics, whereas before I just had a vague idea of guard/prison labels yields mob mentality.

[@hfaith81]

I believe Dave Eshelman was taking in pleasure in that experiment. The way he smiles when he says the professor didn't stop him. He knew better. I think Zimbardo took pleasure in this experiment. Those students who played guards weren’t aloud to hit, and he allowed it. He never put a stop to it. He should have gone to prison for that. What was done to those men who played prisoners can scar someone for life. It’s disturbing that Zimbardo let that experiment get out of hand like that. It really shows his true colors.

[@lifetoast]

some of these things literally happen in private jails, not surprising at all that this happened

[@stop8576]

i was forced to watch furry porn

[@Blocky2323]

The difference is that these were kids that hadn't actually commited a crime and were promised they would not be harmed

[@healthyperson8214]

The idea of prison is to harm people to the point, that they become submissive, and then they will gain a completely new mindset, which is supposed to be less harmful to the society.. You can't go to prison and stay unharmed.. Any person with common sense would know that prison is related with any 'bad' things that you can't think of. The guys agreed to participate in the experiment, because they were offered a great deal of bucks. At least, that's how I see it.

[@rhiannn3416]

You say that, but those people are criminals that ACTUALLY break the law. The people in this experiment were young, innocent students that were mentally and physically abused when they had done nothing wrong. Further more, nothing was done to stop it before it had developed further. I wish Dr. Zimbardo was sued. What went on inside is unacceptable.

[@drewdowdeyshow]

Rhiannn :3 do you know how many young and innocent kids are in jail? Life is all about survival and humans are only hear bc we knew how to survive better than all the other hominoids. We adapt to whatever environment we’re in or we die. It’s as simple as that. So it doesn’t matter if Jesus was in that environment if he wanted to survive he’d have to be willing to unleash his inner monster which ppl don’t like to admit but we all have one.

[@seriouslysinglemom3835]

“The Professor is the authority here.” Thank you for complacency that mirrors the kind of sentiment that the lower members of the SS used to excuse their behavior. This experiment was absolutely inhumane. Thank goodness we have this as an example of what NOT to do. If people are good, they will always be good. There are portions of the population who are not good, but the fear of consequences prevent them from showcasing their true nature.

[@zendavis3501]

You are so wrong it's funny. Just because people are good doesn't mean they will always be good.

[@ryanmcentire5704]

Even though Its obviously better to be a guard, id prefer to be a prisoner so i dont have to live with the guilt

[@Darklord1201FTW]

Ryan McEntire I would stop the gaurds

[@joshuaplotkin8826]

Ryan McEntire you are assuming they felt any guilt at all. judging by their we were just following orders defense, they don't feel guilty at all

[@curiousgeorge8960]

I would go against the corrupted guards as a prisoner

[@healthyperson8214]

Maybe they did not feel guilty after the experiment, because they are normal, kind people that simply got manipulated too easily? That's how I see it. I'm not trying to say, it's okay to be bad for 10 seconds and then be good for the rest of your life.

[@jonsnor4313]

Normal kind people would be the one with the most guilt, "John Wayne"is not a normal kind person, but an opportunistic asshole who doesnt care about others feelings. I like to think most of the guards felt guilt afterwards. Or they felt guilt on some level.

[@LetsGoFlyers2011]

This has all been told...

[@awnaur0no919]

lol fuck off amigo, literally nobody criticjzes tha veracity of tha findings of this shit in any academic, intellectual setting

[@greaser3069]

Baited

[@reikilynx653]

I've seen this experiment referred to many times. I think was a tremendous waste. The experiment was skewed from beginning to end. Set up in sadistic circumstances and intention will allow such results and I am not even a professional, but have logic.

[@reikilynx653]

Maybe you should look beyond the obvious.

[@reikilynx653]

If you have to ask I cannot help you, seek.

[@aurora5092]

Reiki Lynx you sound like a wizard

[@bradymccabe690]

Guy have you ever read lord of the flies? Like the whole point of the experiment and LOTF was to show what humans are capable of

[@MrDizzY130]

If you had what you call logic, you wouldntve posted that comment. Arrogant prick thinks he knows everything.

[@chironapolonio]

What I've never understood about this project is why participants could not simply opt out when they became uncomfortable. That doesn't make sense for a research experiment.

[@maybe3631]

um not entirely. if you watch the full documentary youll see that one of the prisoners came back and told the rest "you cant get out". great documentary very interesting i really recommend you watch it

[@felinaecatastrophique6263]

Regardless of if the results were skewed, it's literally exactly what goes on in prisons today. And it needs to stop.

[@heatherlee7123]

This is important to remember when hating young fathers and husband who worked in concentration camps. It sounds awful till you're raised and inundated in that environment. Aside from this, even if you objected, you'd be risking your family's lives. I was friends once with a homeless man who was a German soldier and guard at a camp. He was broken for life. He tried objecting and watched a woman get shot in the face for his objection. He once cried when he accidentally stepped on a beetle. He used to say All life is so precious. I think his experiences as a guard really wrecked him hardcore. He drank himself to death in the year i knew him. It's devastating, the effect of being surrounded by evil. No matter which side you're forced into.

[@BMoney8600]

Kids in my speech class gave a speech on this experiment.

[@VideoGuy232]

I gave a speech on this experiment in speech class too! Crazy

[@gentlemantramp7528]

Words … pshaw. Did you strip them down to their underwear and fire-hose them?

[@cassanateli]

Thanks I was wondering...

[@ortiz3452]

BMoney8600 sick bro

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@ArcticZombie required. To show how to give a speech, I gather.

[@solangedesousa5180]

"With great power comes great responsibility". How true this statement is in regards to the prison guards, they were given way to much power over the inmates. Mankind cannot control themselves when given power, even though this was at a small scale there is evidence of it all over our history.

[@claytonfauver5384]

For being Stanford students they should have came up with better ideas to take the prison over.

[@Ch1abride]

The prisoners and guards were not students. They were people Zambardo hired through an ad he placed in the local news paper.

[@yeastyyeasty2168]

The stress and shit probably fucked their minds so they couldnt think straight

[@dathunderman4]

They volunteered to be in the experiment the Stanford students were the ones conducting the experiment

[@roxylib6174]

not all of them were Stanford students. I believe just one of them was? But yeah anyway by the second day they had become docile succumbing to authority. Which was basically one of the points they were trying to prove through this experiment. The other being when in authority and with no one interfering you tend to become a dick.

[@constancekreese4921]

John Wayne should have been arrested and put in jail as should the other guards and zimbardo

[@Meadiocracy]

"Power is always dangerous. It attracts the worst, and corrupts the best." -Ragnar Lothbrok

[@liamdaniel993]

This is what the world needs to study. Shit like this. People fail. And we should learn.

[@blase9044]

The experiment is on Netflix if you wanna watch it I highly suggest you do, it's called the Stanford Prision Eperiment

[@John_F_Kennedy79]

8Royal8 oh it’s called the Stanford prison experiment? No shit

[@ayaomer274]

thanks

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Crappy movie. I was bored.

[@beavictor6870]

Its not on netflix canada tho

[@MsLovelyLonely]

Kind of make you wonder if the opposite situation would influence the group as well. Like if the surrounding were utopian and everyone was praised and persuaded to do good or kind or helpful things. How far would a human go to stay connected to their community? Would it over come pervious prejudicial perspectives or aggressive tendencies?

[@danniellerush2980]

Dr. Zimbardo is a weirdo His license should have been revoked

[@ksglitch6463]

I have literally just finished watching the Netflix documentary about this and everything in this video (except the aftermath part) was shown in detail in it.

[@Rockhound6165]

Speaking as someone who's been in corrections for 14 years, this experiment was a complete joke. You just can't pull people off the street, put them in a basement, and make them act like professionals. I mean, the abuses by the so called guards are no worse than how college hazing was at the time with the exception that if you were a pledge and didn't like the hazing, you can just quit. That said, even back then prison guards got some form of training. They weren't pulled off the street, given a set of keys, and thrown to the wolves. Also, there was no chain of command. There was this professor, and the make believe guards. So captains, no lieutenants, no sergeants. Again, even back then, there was a chain of command as well as a grievance system for inmates. As I said, this was nothing more than extreme frat house hazing

[@Sojiny]

This wasn't to show what would happen what happens in prison but more so to see what happens if you give somebody power.

[@DanLaw559]

As a person who has been innocent and arrested, twice, about to be three times, I know this experiment did a good job exposing what people are subjected to. Add the chain of command and they will just try harder to hide their sadism. It still occurs. Prison guards, police, all of you are sadistic fucks who don't comprehend the evil you are doing. You think you are entitled to put innocent people in chains lock them in a cage, force them to live in apalling circustances, and you don't care as long as it legal, as long as you are not stopped, it must be okay. People like you who support prisons and jails should be the ones living in them. Not putting innocent people like me in them.

[@emilyevans4176]

I never thought about it that way. I think you're right. Some of it was similar to hazing new pledges.

[@xjuyl470]

@@DanLaw559 Are you and Studa joking about going to jail?

[@DanLaw559]

@@xjuyl470 I don't think anything about jail is funny. People kidnapping/abducting other people and holding them against their will is normally seen as a horrible and sadistic act, unless of course people in uniforms do it. Everyone until proven guilty in a court of law is innocent by law. That means everyone kidnapped/abducted by police and held by guards in a jail or prison have been subjected to and are victims of what should be a crime. If that person has not committed any crime, the experience is not much different (better or worse) than if anybody not in a uniform committed the act. I would say it is worse because these were people you believed were the "good guys" who "protect and serve" and "make cities safe". It can be traumatizing to learn that you had a false sense of security all your life, in addition to your whole world view suddenly changing. Only to one who is guilty and already accepted "jail time" as a possible consequence, get off easy. To a criminal, the jails and prisons may seem like a joke, or otherwise not be deterred by them; but to one who is truly innocent, the experience can be life altering, even if they are treated well. That being said, it is easy to see that jails and prisons do more harm than good, if they do any good at all.

[@elijahgonzales2754]

This isn’t an “Untold Truth” this a summary of the movie 😂

[@sarahholland2600]

I'd love to know what a psych test would show about Eshelman. I find him quite chilling.

[@rydertilidyer1136]

I participated unwillingly going to jail and only did 30 days. Felt like a year

[@jamesgretsch4894]

RyderTil IDyer what were you in for?

[@theevilduck393]

James Gretsch He raped 7 small children

[@silasguzman7119]

the movie that was made about this is so accurate down to the tone of voices wow

[@CommentBlewUp]

The narrators voice and music make this so much less impactful

[@felixgarcia2184]

I just saw this on Netflix ...and this magically pops up 🤨

[@selfanothermostlikely478]

this is so uncomfortable to watch. humans are awful.

[@billroasts6701]

"Researchers are still arguing about what it all means." It means that when you torture human beings, they go insane. Take some of these "researchers" and toss THEM into one of these cruel "experiments" lets see if they still have trouble understanding what it all means.

[@raptureangel5409]

4:16 DAVE ESHELMAN a "good" guy! NO WAY!

[@roxylib6174]

init. No 'good' guy will do half the things that he did to those 'prisoners'

[@YouTubervid90]

He said in an interview he got a rise out of it!

[@amandaw1640]

Zimbardo does a great TED talk on Abu Ghraib. Anyone who is interested needs to check out the Abu Ghraib documentary, it's chilling.

[@multuminparvo5]

A few years back Philip Zimbardo responded to an email of mine by emailing me back a poem of sorts in which he said I couldn't be a little person because I had such a big heart, and he refrained from using capitals throughout the message except for the capitalization of my name! He could have snubbed me, but he didn't. He's tops in my book!

[@Amine-fy6ce]

multuminparvo5 lol just because he was nice to you, it doesn’t mean he was a fraud.

[@genderqueercam]

This isn't untold; anyone who's studied social science already knows all of this.

[@indicatoker420]

Social engineering

[@MichaelBlazeddFromCali909]

Cx brought me here

[@Bryand_es]

Cx

[@youtubersarethedevil4538]

😈👿cx

[@pladampa]

TTD Hampton would've rioted.

[@BerdAndCharleston]

*energetic music in the background*

[@kylenoe2234]

I've had a class in the old room where prisoners were held.

[@basmabarakat7561]

I am freaking surprised. 6 days really?????? I though it was way longer than that!!! Self-control and mental strength are somethings people should learn since day one

[@NikkoTheNeko]

Hah, I remember having a highschool textbook that Zimbardo took part in writing. There was a good 4 pages dedicated to this.

[@yeethaw5816]

that was a very good summary of the experiment, I highly recommend ~ a philosophy student

[@carlineswarakumar6222]

This proves how truly moldable people are. The experiment was teaching people to accept brutality on both prisoner and guard sides. This shows us how important it is to protect ourselves from being influenced by wrong morals. While I wish it never happened, this experiment tells us how important it is to have a strong sense of self, not to be easily swayed by environmental circumstances.

[@leonel1982]

Well technically the results only show how moldable white men are. In order to do a proper test, you'd have to do a mix of integrated subjects and different ethnicities and genders as well.

[@Sojiny]

I am pretty sure if you got a white male and Italian male you would get the same results. They also had a female guard and she was molded too. I also think one of them had a Spanish background.

[@leonel1982]

Well you can be both a white and Italian male. They're not mutually exclusive things. I'm also having a hard time trying to find who participated in the experiment but I am finding that the professor who came up with the experiment put out an ad that asked for only young men and only one was Asian.

[@Sojiny]

Yes but he also got a female.

[@Sojiny]

You also said ethnicity not skin color.

[@yahir768]

Yeah I’m here after watching Ice’s stream

[@Max-wy9hz]

I think there is at least one crucial part the video left out. A rumor began to surface in the prison that prisoner #8612 was going to return, and try to oust the guards and free the prisoners. In response to this, Dr. Zimbardo ordered that the entire prison be deconstructed, and all prisoners and guards be moved to another room, so when 8612 came back, he could say the experiment was ended early. This is when he was confronted, and was convinced to shut down the experiment.

[@logchi7779]

Ive never heard of this before. Where did you hear this from?

[@MrShomari1]

How fascinating

[@georgie2731]

literally none of this is untold, i just started studying this and i already know all of this and more…this information is readily available to anyone

[@wesremy]

If it was voluntary, why weren't the prisoners allowed to leave? Shouldn't the guards and the researcher be convicted for this?

[@kirayoshikage1480]

Exactly 🤔🤔🤔

[@lauraw.7008]

I think that's why we have ethics boards now and don't just allow random professors and assistants to come up with whatever plan they choose. Alert; the "untold facts" of the college experiment are in Humankind by Rutger Bregman, chapter 7. This Zimbardo guy also did an experiment with two groups of boys that he called off because they couldn't get the groups to go against each other. The next time he tried it, the "researchers" did more behind the scenes manipulation, and got the boys to almost go "lord of the flies" on each other. IMHO, Zimbardo is either a sociopath or a narcissist. Either way, he's very manipulative and interested in power, and didn't care who he hurt to get the results he was after. By gettign this published, he has contributed to a "nocebo effect" - now most people believe in the inherent cruel nature of people.

[@pingo.with.a.camera9897]

Keep in mind.. what happened in that experiment would not happen in real life.. inmates will and have stood up for themselves.. if that had been an actual prison with actual inmates and guards.. any and all guards would have been attacked and or killed.. period..

[@kianna1082]

attacked? possibly. killed? unlikely. the prison system is fucked up and inmates are mistreated, if that was the case, guards would've been attacked and killed already. the experiment wasnt completely inaccurate as prison guards really are this fucked up in real life. inmates are treated like scum and no change has been made because its not talked about.

[@kianna1082]

and im not including the prison uprisings due to the mistreatment where the guards are killed.

[@booooom21]

Not true. Prison guards in the US won't be abusive and treat the inmates like shit, otherwise they will get their wig split. Keep in mind that some prisoners are in for life, they simply dont give at fuck. It's the prisoners who run the prison not the guards.

[@dfshjb44]

Lmao someone's been watching some big Herc

[@swat22camden]

if i remember they actually rewarded the prisoners that obeyed the guards, so that deinsentivized them to rebel

[@rosekay1083]

Learning about this right now in my psychology class

[@DarkMojoYT]

Untold truth Grunge, is really Nicki Swift

[@dianaespinosa7062]

How ‘power’ can change things 😔

[@coleh8591]

Id participate

[@rayangraham351]

I spent 4 months in jail. Situation is even worse than they said in this video. (People set me up and I ended up in prison without reason - mentally it's so hard, but when you know why you are behind bars than its easier) guys from organizations said that they from beginning know that they will spend at least 10 years during their life's in prisons and that's why it's easier mentally.

[@lizardfirefighter110]

Good to know.

[@wangtoriojackson4315]

So what exactly was supposed to be the "untold" part in this video?

[@brittanycalhoun937]

You don’t even get treated like that in prison.

[@Sojiny]

This is to show that power corrupts.

[@user-tn5rx9ht9u]

Brittany Calhoun actually it does. If u read his book he gives examples of it actually happening

[@thantsinthitsar2478]

ohhh, you have been too sheltered, its amazing what people will do when there is no consequence for your actions

[@lunaluxx6617]

Yeah it does..there are plenty of guards out there who abuse inmates and fuck with their minds!

[@edwardgrabczewski]

You haven't told us anything more than the "Quiet Rage" documentary by Zimbardo!

[@rosejones2457]

reminds me so much of milgram's study

[@elysiaayala6441]

The guys voice reminds me of the pacer test

[@humanskinnergames4520]

I can imagine john wayne has a free candy van

[@maxbarker8625]

Power leads lack of responsibility. lack of responsibility. leads to disassociation. Disassociation leads to uncaring. Uncaring leads to sadistic and evil tendencies

[@jfenton9817]

damn, that shit escalated quick! i thought it happened over the course of like months

[@farnabyurquhart6970]

The question is would you trust anyone called “Doctor Zimbado” with a stereotypical villain goatee? I think not.

[@thicknessevelin]

i just watch the movie and it just pissed me off ! so i had to skip to the last part

[@MartinAston00]

No Dave.. just cause the Professor didn’t tell you it was bad.. you’re an adult, you’re supposed to already know it’s wrong!!

[@paranormalshadowssociety7402]

This is very telling.

[@rebeccastephens1033]

The experiment itself is very interesting but I think as soon as Zimbardo (idk how to spell it) got involved it ruined the whole thing. He should have left them all to themselves to get the true data that he wanted and when he saw how awful it had become he would of been in the right mind set to stop it. But when he became involved everything became unreliable and he to developed a power complex. It’s completely awful what happened and I hope nothing like it ever happens again.

[@lauraw.7008]

@Rebecca Stephens - it turns out after his papers were reviewed that Zimbardo actually interfered much earlier; the "guards" weren't actually students. They were hired to be dehumanizing.

[@paulbryancayao5064]

@@lauraw.7008 Nothing would happen if zimbardo don't interfere since he is the mastermind of this experiment

[@lauraw.7008]

@@paulbryancayao5064 Exactly !!!

[@lauraw.7008]

@@paulbryancayao5064 Exactly. Nothing would have happened, and he wouldn't have become famous.

[@Rex2460]

ICE POSEIDON MADE YOU CX IN THE CHAT

[@luke1427]

Rex2460 cx

[@DarkKnight2037]

Just so everyone knows, this experiment isnt considered a good study to cite or even consider so much because of how certain things were influenced to happen

[@Ellier215]

My preschool kids play games like this but when things go awry, some kidos know when to stop and show empathy, but not all.

[@iplayguitar1217]

Who else is here from ice Poseidon’s stream

[@inessa5923]

So... did they get the cash??

[@felings4u544]

Human nature is so fascinating. Where does this evil come from? How are we drawn to doing and acting bad rather than good? It's so interesting, I love it.

[@Kitty_Demonix]

I think it's between 3-5 when a child learns to lie.

[@avarein3059]

Watching this so history doesn't repeat itself..

[@brieannaemme4747]

can anyone tell me why all of these crime videos are in my recommended

[@nixx5179]

I'm a human burrito.

[@at0micwerew0lf]

"untold truth"=abundantly available public info...but hey, thanks for "breaking" this "untold" story.

[@JohnSmith-sg1pi]

There's a movie on this and includes the whole package, It's a bit weird, but worth the watch.

[@ibm3302]

D E N I N O

[@Kei-oy9fc]

I read about this in a horror manga...

[@domilksauce2995]

Megu nekota Brynhildr!?

[@solllua]

Which one?

[@astralisk]

We need more psychological experiments

[@athenas_atheneum]

Absolute Authority corrupts absolutely.

[@kisser1186]

Anyone here bc ice Poseidon cx

[@youtubersarethedevil4538]

Reeeeeeeeeeee

[@fluffydogbutt7435]

im ixALF1ug yeah I was horrified

[@pladampa]

Wish Hampton was there to start a riot TTD.

[@kisser1186]

@@pladampa imagine lmao

[@kisser1186]

@@pladampa next time

[@Rocket3thethird]

Cx

[@dustfreequeen5151]

That john wayne dude wasn't acting, those are his true colors!

[@garyybuantributes5629]

I remember the movie in the 70's "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" that won as best picture and best actor for Jack Nicholson. Probably the movie was inspired by this true story. 🙏♥️😘

[@loganm2766]

Ice poseidon is doing this right now

[@lartukingston3247]

This in my recommend because I watched ice stream cxcxcxcxcxcx

[@jannabiklt]

You could see all of it at the Film too. The Flash plays as P-8612.

[@jennifernorton37]

This is somewhat like the 90 days in. I cant say if I agree with how it all fell, and I cant say I disagree. The findings were/are astonishing but at what cost? On the other hand, all progression has been made possible because of experiments. Like I said not all are good, but even the most poorly organized experiments have done great things. I find it interesting that even those behind the experiment lost all sense of reality. Scientists generally disconnect from their experiments so they can get a truth analysis. To the boys, I'm sorry you went through this but I'm also grateful you did. Believe it or not, you saved lives with the knowledge taken from your suffering. I pray you all have been able to move forward without any trauma from it. I've tried finding your interviews videos but cant find them. I would love to see them.

[@lauraw.7008]

That's why we have ethics boards. Zimbardo manipulated the guards going into it. The experiment was attempted to be duplicated in Europe, and the guards and prisoners got on with each other and were kind. Also - Prisons in the Netherlands have a MUCH lower recidivism rate because guards and prisoners spend time together to help the prisoners develop skills that will enable them to return to civilian life and be constructive members of society.