This is probably the best race breakdown I’ve seen yet. Dylan, you’re a champion even if you don’t win. The analysis is always on point.
@davidking2582 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to watch a video from a KZbinr who walks the walk… Top stuff! 👍
@ehounshell2 жыл бұрын
current heat wave in Europe and your comments here made me think: it would be nice to have a video full of tips and knowledge about riding in the heat.
@raphaeltiziani74762 жыл бұрын
just do it. dont do hard intervalls in the beginning in the heat, only after some days but heat acclimatio is very important, works and improves your fitness; and btw expect much less power in the begining (7-15%).
@mathewrose29512 жыл бұрын
Zwift. It was 48 degrees here in Doha today. The big weekly group ride here is now at 4:45 a.m. on Saturday, and even then it was 37 degrees last week at that time. It's not worth the stress to ride in heat.
@ltu422 жыл бұрын
@@mathewrose2951 But without good airflow Zwift actually becomes an acclimatisation strategy for riding in the heat!
@ericpmoss2 жыл бұрын
1. Wear light colors. 2. Cut your hair very short. 3. One bottle very cold, the other very frozen, and both insulated. 4. Avoid hydration packs if you can - unless they have spacers to hold them away from your back, they just heat your drink and insulate you. I suppose if you have frozen bladders, it can still be an overall advantage (it won’t bounce off your bike), but it adds weight on your crotch and lower back. That means extra energy spent holding it up.
@pl4free2 жыл бұрын
just don't! Wake up at 5 o'clock, ride in the cool of the morning and do something else when the heat hits.
@jeremysweeten27922 жыл бұрын
The Spirit of Gravel does exist!!! You caught his photo!
@chasewark33772 жыл бұрын
It was great being apart of this strategy and riding! Thanks again for including me in on this! Also, it was really nice never having to worry about sending it downhill and taking risks that could cause a puncture.
@acem822 жыл бұрын
Good to see that you're succeeding at the higher levels after kicking my butt around Wisconsin 2 years ago!
@XX-is7ps2 жыл бұрын
Love the Mad Science approach and willingness to experiment - proper “growth mindset” being willing to gamble on it👌Brilliant ride and brilliant analysis 👍
@graffix11us2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of your science based methods and incorporate much of what you talk about into my training and racing. When it comes to racing, one of the things I love about it is that you can never predict what the course, weather, competition or mechanicals will throw at you. You obviously have more than enough experience to be acutely aware of this and still had the guts to try and control everything you can control. Congrats on the sub 10 finish and 13th overall. Sometimes the race gods smile on you and sometimes not so much. Being near the front is many times all it takes for a great finish if they aren't smiling on others. Keep cranking!
@DylanJohnsonCycling2 жыл бұрын
Do you think this strategy was a good or bad idea? If you want to follow my racing closer the best place to do that is on instagram at @dylanjawnson.
@crb0n1812 жыл бұрын
Honestly if you had a more organized team and were a little bit more lucky I think that strat would work well.
@ashleyhouse96902 жыл бұрын
Great ride and a great video. I guess it comes down to do you think you could have gone faster if you'd stayed with the front group?
@tomp.79382 жыл бұрын
I think it's excellent to avoid the surges, but perhaps rather than going in with fixed speed or watts you could change pace incrementally based on the average pace of the lead riders. Maybe you needed just a bit more flexibility to account for the conditions. It's a really intriguing idea, and it's awesome you took the risk and tried it in a big race. I would love to see you win a race using this strat! great vid!
@Jesse-bb4qj2 жыл бұрын
Without aero bars it definitely would of been good
@NickelPlateRoad572 жыл бұрын
It was a shorter race, but fifty years ago that strategy worked for Wottle the Throttle in the Olympics kzbin.info/www/bejne/a32rmpdjo6hna80
@sean112012 жыл бұрын
Dylan, really love your videos. Get a lot out of them, they are uniquely thorough and thought out. It's joy to follow you through the data, your interpretation of it and how you put into practice. Congratulations on the sub 10 hour Unbound. Please keep this content coming.
@aaronwilmes2 жыл бұрын
I am a swimmer and this is a common strategy in open water swimming. Especially in the 10km or the 25km Races. But the water is always the same and not like a cycling course with ups and downs. Thank you for covering this
@innocentiuslacrim22902 жыл бұрын
Doesn't water conditions change quite a lot in open water swimming depending on waves, wind and possible currents. At least in kayaking those have a big effect on my speeds.
@aaronwilmes2 жыл бұрын
@@innocentiuslacrim2290 Ah yes right
@SkateWolfym2 жыл бұрын
Also drafting is less important I can imagine
@quadzilla26652 жыл бұрын
@@SkateWolfym less than on the bike but drafting does have a big impact on swimming 🙂
@aaronwilmes2 жыл бұрын
@Seppe De Vos 25km is brutal. I can hardly imagine been at the starting line and knowing you are about to swim for 5hours straight. I did 10km and the last 2km is just a mental game. But the feeling of achievement is different🙂
@chanito_nyc2 жыл бұрын
BHD did it so fast that the timer wasn’t even set up at the finish line, we’ll never know 🤷♂️
@filmaynard2 жыл бұрын
Sixty-nine likes on this comment. Checks out.
@chesterules2 жыл бұрын
@@filmaynard I was just about to like the comment and then thought better of it. ;)
@peterknight78802 жыл бұрын
... excuse number...?
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed Жыл бұрын
Just put out a video on the new aero super tuck
@DonnyDonnMendoza2 жыл бұрын
Insane execution for the race. It seems like the field keeps getting stronger at an exponential rate! I love how you compared the average speeds of different editions too; puts into perspective how strong this year's field was.
@sepg50842 жыл бұрын
It is getting stronger, just not exponentially.
@jamieb28652 жыл бұрын
Wow what a race! Definitely nerding out over all the variables. Even the fact that the other group was pushing harder before the rain means they covered more distance with an optimal draft. Your strategy would work amazing in a bottle, but it's humbling to see how diverse a 200 mile race can be from start to finish.
@hucklejoko48382 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this since the weekend. Finally I can watch your race recap.
@dieddf2 жыл бұрын
I've done this strategy on my very first bike race in the alps. I've got a good result I've never been able to repeat with a regular strategy of trying to match the others rather than following the script.
@shyamfootprints972 Жыл бұрын
Best video and explanation thus far about UG 2023
@mikekobylasz34902 жыл бұрын
So awesome man sub 10 hour is insane! Your videos have helped up my endurance game a ton! Thanks
@williamwightman84092 жыл бұрын
This was great info for any long ride. Staying with the front pace group is a highly enjoyable trap until you realize you are not nearly as durable as that starting pace. The pain after that has you going "why did I do that again?". Your comments about rising heat during the day is especially applicable to the Hotter N Hell 100 ride in Wichita Falls, TX where it starts around 75 and ends around 100+ deg F. It is very challenging to optimize pace with that kind of change. I will try very hard to simply ride a flat modest aerobic heartrate this year. Adrenaline is a big enemy of high temperature endurance (especially if you have a Dad bod like me). Again great info.
@TheRimBrakeGuy Жыл бұрын
Now this got me thinking about the dirty bike thing, especially in gravel races a wax film that is hydrophobic covering critical components/frame/cockpit could allow the bike to go clean for longer distances, and overall better aerodynamics, comfort, and consistency of the components from failures due to the dirt.
@Cookefan592 жыл бұрын
Wow Dylan, you did absolutely fantastic! Very happy for you! Thank you for sharing your experience.
@1barnet12 жыл бұрын
Those wattages combined with the duration are very very solid. Just be proud of your achievements. And thank you for sharing your story.
@joefrost27632 жыл бұрын
I've thought about racing this way but never had the guts to try it, thanks for doing it, thanks for sharing it!
@iancoleman45352 жыл бұрын
Love seeing you and JB vibing at the end.
@robertmuckle29852 жыл бұрын
Takes discipline to race this way, and it can pay off in the right conditions! Most could never do this, as the ego overpowers the logic of it! Kudos to you and your impressive finish time, and intelligent race strategies!
@jorgecuenca91752 жыл бұрын
Solid performance. I appreciate you taking time to provide numbers in metric system too. Really helpful
@ewanmackenzie67772 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your post race break down, my money would be on your strategy, hard to let the group go but you caught and used most of them by the end of the race. Smarter than the average Bear! Way to go Dylan keep up the great work.
@austingaschler18792 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and good job executing your game plan. I went with no plan but eat every 10 mile multiple ending in 0 and supplement every multiple ending in 5. Finished in 17 hours 8 minutes and held the same average moving speed that I usually do on a solo gravel century. Very proud of busting it out near the best of my ability
@mortigard2 жыл бұрын
Chase Werk! He's the "Minnesota Monster"! I loved racing him around the state fair grounds.
@peterers32 жыл бұрын
Gotta admit, pretty darn good. Smooth is efficient and efficient is fast. Well done Dylan.
@johnbussard65232 жыл бұрын
Peeped that Stoopid 50 bib! Thankful to have the GWNF in my backyard!
@dropagearadventures55322 жыл бұрын
Dylan, it was an amazing effort! The strategy was brilliant! Just needed a lil quicker overall time. Which was attainable for you. Your normalized power and overall speed were great. I love how you are able to show from an athletes perspective a RACE STRATEGY! So many times I talk with my racers about developing their game and actually sticking to the plan, you nailed it. Science and planning can effect a race for sure. There is no other way to develop these game plans without being a world class competitor. It is so unique and compelling! I totally appreciate the insight and the amazing efforts you put in! Thanks for what you do!
@gregtitus24672 жыл бұрын
Outstanding ride! And I think your pacing strategy was spot on. I really liked your rationale. And getting it under 10 hrs was a huge, vindicating win!
@poochie82082 жыл бұрын
Great strategy Dylan. From the numbers your Variability index was really consistent. 1.08 for the first part, 1.06 for the second, and an impressive 1.10 in that last section. That really shows how consistent you tried to be across the whole race, even with climbs. One thing is to set out to do a set target power, which you might hit, but then the variability index is often greater than 1.1, keeping yours so low is a great example of a perfectly executed plan.
@klaasdoeden31132 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. As an earth scientist like the way you look at the data. I rode the 50 as my first UG experience. We were deluged by rain but we have only a short route on the unmaintained roads. It would have been a great day to ride without the rain but there we some points I couldn't see where I was going. Maybe RainX for my glasses. Glad to see a smile on your face after the race!!!!
@scc93062 жыл бұрын
I also get dropped at mile 10, on my local group ride.
@grwoolf2 жыл бұрын
Great content as always. As someone who isn't in contention for the overall, I've found that the balancing act between steady pacing and staying with a group is the most important factor in finishing time. And the right strategy is highly dependent on who shows up, the course, and the weather. At gravel locos (a crazy hot day), my plan was to race hard and hang on to fast groups for the first 5-6 hours until it got really hot. At that point, everyone was limping home, but I felt like I was limping from a spot closer to the finish. I had teammate try to pace it steady and that just made for more time trying to make power in the heat of the day.
@antspage2 жыл бұрын
dude doing 200 mile race in less than 10 hours at that speed is fookin impressive ! hats off to you
@Volkmannx2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks! Congrats for achieving your sub 10h goal - well done!
@gregmorrison73202 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and the level of competition is unreal, the speeds you guys maintain is very impressive. I really appreciate you taking the time to convert your information to metric for us not in the USA.
@KwadSkwad2 жыл бұрын
dude you absolutely killed it. and the field was so stacked this year. for such a long race, with so many variables, just being able to execute a plan like this to completion is awesome!! Also it was great to meet you!! (I was “that handlebar guy”) Next year BHD can just blow up the start and hide in the pack and make excuses to not take pulls all day 🤣
@Its_just_me_again2 жыл бұрын
haha i must have been living under a rock - cute ride :) drum roll for position was a lil anti climactic as you previously showed it. good job. thx for sharing
@richardhaselwood94782 жыл бұрын
Super enjoyable analysis. And, as always, eternal gratitude for the metric measurements.....
@gogoyoyo24042 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing . Amazing job sticking to your plan. Amazing job....congrats keep peddling
@zaahierstanley9552 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. It is a beast of a race. Thanx for the insight into these major classics
@NEILANDROSE992 жыл бұрын
I ended up using this strategy for the Gravel Nationals here in VA by accident. I had a flat at mile 9 and decided to just pace myself and surge where I was strong and fought from dead last to 7th overall and 1st in my age. I ended up getting a pretty good group of followers with my pacing strategy but I took a chance and broke away with 20 to go.
@marknorth91442 жыл бұрын
I was at Unbound/DK in both 2018 and this year (2022). The other factor you didn't mention, is that in 2018 the wind was out of the North so the second half was hot, but ALSO into a headwind. Personally I was in much smaller groups and sometimes by myself in this second half in 2018. This year the wind was out of the South so the headwind section was in the beginning when I (and most people) were in bigger groups and better able to draft. For a fairly nominal increase in NP (from 2018 to 2022), I was able to drop about an hour an a half off my time. As an age-grouper, I also try to keep a relatively even pacing strategy and this worked well for me this year as I was able to win the 60+ category. Cheers,
@TysRides2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on sub 10 hours! You can feel good about that! Love your videos and your outlook on things. Keep Crushing It!
@OGillo20012 жыл бұрын
Nice video Dylan, superb sportsmanship sir
@joshonwheels22 жыл бұрын
Big props on an epic conditions day out there! FYI I wanted to shine a light on a correction to your video: Colin Strickland was not the first racer to go under 10 hours. Brian Jensen did it on ~2014. Ted King then went under 10 hours to beat his record when he first won it (~2017?). Both of their courses and records were in the 'DK-era' and over 200 miles. I'm sure the Mohns (DK200 creators) could verify this. I lived in Lawrence, KS at the time and it was sort of a 'big deal' amongst the locals (in the same way BHD is a big deal in Brevard). Thanks for all the great content :)
@oldanslo2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the results! A couple other factors on the faster times this year was that there was about 2500' less vertical gain and, except for the mud bogs, most of the road surfaces were pretty good. There were few stretches of "Unmaintained Road" which tended to be killers and nothing close to Little Egypt.
@avoycendeether88692 жыл бұрын
There is a multiplicative effect as the day gets hotter. You ride slower so the cooling impact of air flow is decreased. I've controlled temperature indoors along with fan speed to mimic 70 degrees @20mph vs 84 degrees @17mph vs 84 degrees @20mph. It doesn't sound like much but decreased air flow at higher temperature is more than a 'marginal loss'.
@abfutrell2 жыл бұрын
But the dew point depression often gets greater in the afternoon due to drier air mixing from aloft, this lowers the Wet Bulb Temperature and can actually improve the cooling effect. If the wind speed picks up during the heat of the day, you know this is actively happening. Also, warmer air is less dense, so less drag.
@titaniumben99232 жыл бұрын
@@abfutrell yep, people comparing single rides of cool then hot are getting misleading information as well, heat acclimation is well known hence why Ted King talked about sitting in his car with windows up, and zwifting in the sun. Many people in the comments asking about what sort of performance loss is there in heat, but the reality is that if you are used to the heat, it can actually be faster as the air density (resistance) is less. People forget that it works the other way as well, being used to summer, then riding on an exceptionally cold day will have an impact on performance in my experience.
@trukweaz2 жыл бұрын
good stuff DJ - low VI pacing has been used by FOP AG long course multisport folks for years - limiting those surges (and corresponding negative repercussions) is huge. Well done. Keep charging.
@bobhro2952 жыл бұрын
Great job on your finishing time, you stuck to your strategy against a tough field and didn't bonk.
@alainpfammatter82242 жыл бұрын
great result on unbound. congratulations
@charlespackwood92192 жыл бұрын
I have mad respect for people that do these long events. I can’t ride a bike for that long. If I were to do 320k it would be on road with a bunch of other people trying to keep the speed around 45k an hour like the world tour pros
@rcweekends93702 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your strategy. I've noticed you prefer my favorite saddle as well.
@ohcrapwhatsnext2 жыл бұрын
Kudos... Job well done... Your happy with your performance, thats what counts.
@jlandry48012 жыл бұрын
"good enough for the penguin, good enough for Dylan" - i think that's what he said, freaking hilarious. Awesome job man.
@luiskanelas2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to win to be a champion. Thank you for your incredible content here on the channel. Congrats! :-)
@TheSteinbitt Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how high the level is in the pro tour road racing. Ian Boswell was a very anonymous pro peloton rider, and he wins the largest gravel race in the world!
@wss3272 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Thanks! I wish I saw this video before my 200km race a few weeks ago…
@scooter21632 жыл бұрын
excellent breakdown! love the JB cameo at 12:55
@DavidTodor2 жыл бұрын
Absolute unit bud, great job.
@nottyR62 жыл бұрын
Love your honesty Dylan 👍
@NunoJoel2 жыл бұрын
I think you did a great Ride ! And you really show in real life how your coaching and Training works Damn well . Congratulations 👏
@keithmorel29642 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to this vlog. Thanks DJ. Congrats on your result great performance and control
@Graptos2 жыл бұрын
Great to see Andrew do well too, nice guy, still owe him and Haley a doughnut, super nice people, miss them out here on the Wet Coast.
@Veloworthy2 жыл бұрын
Great recap and pacing strategy. It was good seeing you out there!
@wazzup1052 жыл бұрын
By executing a plan you learned a thing or two (on top of a decent placing) . Well done!
@15idog2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the conversions!
@crazypaulinquebec2 жыл бұрын
Bahhhhaha, so funny backwards hat Dylan - ''going against the Spirit of Gravel with such a long analysis''! How could you do that skit without cracking up! Love it and ... keep those long analyses coming! Oh, and having an alter ego like ''backwards hat'' is a stroke of genius!
@michaelstoecker41782 жыл бұрын
Well done! Love the no b.s. recap. Congrats on a very nice result …. 💪💪
@rd27832 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Love hearing what goes behind the scenes of these rides.
@olenowakdalner95922 жыл бұрын
Again an awesome race report totally packed with info and reflections. Need to grasp all your insights and then I will probably have some reflections on your pacing strategy that I followed closely on race day.
@owenvermeulen12312 жыл бұрын
Great Job Dylan, I've always loved these race report videos but now having been in the same race, it's even better, It was definatley a tough day out there, but huge congrats on a sub 10 time thats awesome! I hope to see you keep moving up the GP standings! See you out at the next races.
@ianschwing12732 жыл бұрын
That clip of Jeremiah is so good. Classic
@ianfurqueron58502 жыл бұрын
Cool. I've been waiting for this video. Also - spent a Wednesday @ Wakefield race chilling with your dad for a bit. I think he was amused you have "fans" who follow you on KZbin and other media, after I commented about the Niner bike he was riding.
@gravelpack85362 жыл бұрын
Entertaining and informative love it, I should add incredible effort and brilliant strategy.
@mikeherring69602 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks for great race analysis. For average Joe's like me it is always fun to hear about the super-human efforts you guys and gals put in for these ultra-distance events.
@mikecortes84812 жыл бұрын
Great Vid buddy! Congratulations on your badass Effort!! 🤙
@dew_reg15742 жыл бұрын
This video was worth the wait, race recaps are my favorites ! Congratulations for your performance. I would have liked to see you crush the race in hot conditions. Have a nice second part of the season 😉
@sonny.v9252 жыл бұрын
Been anxiously waiting for this video, Dylan. Nice job and great race breakdown!
@JPRidesRoad2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I needed this video, you’re the best
@steventrott87142 жыл бұрын
Great work Dylan!
@milanpintar2 жыл бұрын
you needed to push higher power because of the weather … love your strategy
@zbeekerm2 жыл бұрын
LOVE your race analysis vids. Great result too! Nice work.
@joshonwheels22 жыл бұрын
Also, you should talk to your teammate, Ashton Lambie... he employed a similar strategy and held ~17-18mph avg. for a top 10 Unbound/DK finish a few years back. It really works.
@marsmouton4142 жыл бұрын
We have a gravel event in Namibia called Desert Dash were we do 393km in 24hours
@Spartan95672 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue, its hard to generate power over a long period of time in hot weather. Riding in the rain is underrated. Great work though, incredible effort to get under 10 hours.
@ReasonTatters2 жыл бұрын
Great job! All in the name of science!
@jeremysweeten27922 жыл бұрын
Btw: DJ is a freaking hero!!
@TheRflynn2 жыл бұрын
The best strategy may be slowly evolving into a typical “spring” classic; let a break go (they use up a bunch of energy but get a gap in return), and a larger group gets to enjoy drafting.
@Red-ju4mi2 жыл бұрын
Was that his stratedgy?
@TheRflynn2 жыл бұрын
@@Red-ju4mi keep to an even power output, no sprint efforts.
@rodiona87812 жыл бұрын
I stay in the first 10-15% pack for the first 1/3 so I can draft and I let them pick a good pace that keeps me in that area or moving up but also saving energy. Then for 2/3 I start moving up on my own at a consistent pace with hopefully one or two people that is matching my speed to save energy and I don't have to set a pace. Then for the last third I increase my speed, over take them and pace myself until the finish
@rudyelizondo19352 жыл бұрын
Great ride Dylon, I like your vids
@bundokbiker2 жыл бұрын
Loved the breakdown, thanks!
@tnan1232 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the race. Really like the strategy and despite the many fast riders for the 2022 edition it seemed like a well executed and amazing race by you!
@crb0n1812 жыл бұрын
Unbound was wild this year. It definitely needs no introduction
@syrus3k2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do some kind of video with Tyler and Jeremiah .. the awesome 3!
@matthewrepucci35642 жыл бұрын
Great work and thanks for sharing the strategy!
@garysladek91102 жыл бұрын
The question I have...will you employ this strategy again especially on a hot day? I enjoyed your race breakdown thanks.