The US-China Competition: Who’s Winning?

[@jimclarke7387]

Let's stop worrying about China's leadership and start worrying about our problems. Let's start making peace with China and Russia and start working on our problems.

[@davidmoss2576]

Couldn't agree more.

[@DianelosGeorgoudis]

Given the increasing size and influence of the MIC, it is difficult for the political system in the US to function without there being some evil military opponent out there.

[@willengel2458]

what makes other countries to pay for their oil and oil producers sell their oil in US dollars? how US beggars the world with printing endless greenbacks? why US can impose its make up rule-based order on most countries, even so-called allies? why US castrated Japan with the Plaza Accord? btw they didn't lose their mojo. why US had its way with Mitsubishi of Japan, Alstom of France, but not Huawei of China?

[@xiyang8989]

couldn't agree more. US should look internally, stop pushing US-sino competition into WW3

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP stock markets are also going to collapse more soon, because the CCP cannot come up with the money to pay the foreign, dollar-denominated bonds coming due of most RE developers and companies. That is why they are manipulating their stock market now to raise it to cause greedy, foolish foreign investors to buy in and bail them out of their impending doom. Such bailouts will only be temporary though and people "investing" in the CCP's China will lose everything: the CCP will continue driving China into the ground as China, whose population is aging rapidly, not the USA, cannot compete in the world.

[@palmpalm5131]

These experts only have a superficial understanding of China. On the issue of language integration. This is a way to integrate rather than separate. This the opposite of segregation. The Uyghurs learn their own ethnic minority language as well as Mandarin which is used all across China. This opens up opportunities for an individual to move anywhere in the country or work for any company and not be restricted, held back or hindered because of language. The US has a common language (English) that is used by all citizens in the country. People are often derided for not speaking English. So why make it look like it’s a bad thing for another country to have a common language. It’s like looking for any excuse to criticize. I think it’s time to stop looking at everything others do in non western countries in a negative slant. Let others organize and run their countries as they see fit.

[@tusker2418]

I've been trying to argue this exact point in Western Leftists spaces and they just refuse to listen. It's infuriating. All they wanna do is criticize China and blame China for US deterioration and criticize their governmental. Such a waste of time to demonize other nations when we could be co-operating.

[@palmpalm5131]

@@tusker2418 I agree we definitely should be cooperating. But western countries are too arrogant to think they could ever learn something from other countries that are not considered Western. It’s unfortunate. Their idea of competing is knee capping and sabotaging the other side. What they really should be doing is cooperating, working together for the betterment of all.

[@tusker2418]

@@palmpalm5131 Sadly, I agree. We certainly are too arrogant and we've been brainwashed into believing the myth of American Exceptionalism. At this point, I'm just hoping that the people of the collective west come to their senses before our governments cause too much destruction. But arrogant people rarely come to their senses, and my confidence in their ability to do so is thin.

[@mikefagiani1407]

Is the sky blue in your imaginary universe? Also the CCP has to stop stealing land from the 18 neighbors it is trying to rob, like Tibet was invaded and its people robbed like native Americans or Palestinians. The PLAN will be sunk in one month if it dared to attack the US or our allies, Japan and Taiwan. US and Japanese weapons actually work.

[@user-ln7zp3mc6y]

It's funny there's a saying in China quote "first class foreigner second officer, third class minority people forth Han" (Han people is the major people of China).

[@stevenicoletti3498]

I have been teaching in greater China (Taiwan, HK and Mainland) for the past 25 years after 3 nightmare years of teaching in USA. To say the American educational system is mediocre is way too generous - public education in the States is broken. China however is an amazing country to teach in. Teaching in USA and in China is like night and day.

[@athenakoios]

In your opinion would an impoverished villager have chance to study and support herself while studying ？

[@stevenicoletti3498]

@@athenakoios In China - absolutely yes and if at the end of 9th grade she did well on her zhongkao, she would get to go to high school. If after high school she did well on her gaokao, she would get to go to university. My point though is that during elementary and middle school, if she was bouncing off the walls the way some students in the States like to bounce off the walls, she would be shown the door. The Chinese take education VERY seriously.

[@athenakoios]

@@stevenicoletti3498 thank you very much for your reply . We are screwed I am afraid.

[@xiyang8989]

chinese has suffer from poverty for centries, it's rooted in our gut and tradition to work hard and get eduated well.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@jimmylee6256]

It would be wise for the US government to be humble while she still can. If you want respect from China, you also need to respect them first. All men are created equal. The USA should not be condescending toward the world. Then the world will be a better place.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@GUSCRAWF0RD]

Sometimes condescension is merely perceived and maybe a projection of one own inferiority

[@bobmcfarl4834]

@@GUSCRAWF0RD and sometimes its such a reflection of fear that it requires 750 military bases around the world to prevent the loss of economic power -- bye bye$

[@miraphycs7377]

if that is the case then China needs to respect the US because without the US Navy's Blue Water Navy opening and keeping the world's waterway safe for trade and commerce, it wouldn't be the economic giant it is today.

[@bobmcfarl4834]

@@miraphycs7377 who are they keeping the waterways safe from? pirates? US navy is acting as prison guard trying to protect its own interests at the expense of everyone else

[@kaimingraymondchoi9909]

Freeman speaks of reality. It kind of demonstrate how US government refuses to face reality but focusing mainly on politics. I think US is a great nation, unfortunately it is being undermined by politics.

[@Didmasela]

Kai Ming Raymond Choi: I agree with you that the US is undermined by politics. But I can add that, the US is led by fanatical corporate lovers who have sacrificed the well being of the people for huge corporate profits that benefit the 10% rich class.

[@kaimingraymondchoi9909]

@@Didmasela I agree. When capitalism runs for a sufficiently long period of time, it will start to take advantage of or even invade the country's our democratic system.

[@kyle5519]

Hunter Biden works for the Chinese oil company with exclusive rights to the south china sea, so no wonder Biden doesn't care if China takes the south china sea

[@tanthxx]

If you have not experienced China from 80s to present, it is probable that you cant appreciate the progress china had gone through.... in almost all aspects of human progress development.

[@davidk6269]

Ambassador Chas Freeman is my spirit animal.

[@zhoubaidinh403]

what's that?

[@Randomstuffs261]

@@zhoubaidinh403 It's a joke in the English-speaking world. Your spirit animal is an animal that you relate to so much that you feel as if you are the same as it. Some mystic people say "my spirit animal is an eagle" or something like that because they admire how eagles fly and live freely. But he's turning it into a joke : He's basically saying he relates to Chas Freeman so much that he feels like he is him.

[@zhoubaidinh403]

@@Randomstuffs261 Much appreciated...

[@siamcharm7904]

mine as well.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@robolobo6951]

To fix their problems, the US first had to admit there's a problem. No US politician will ever admit there's a problem unless it could be blamed on the opposition.

[@mikefagiani1407]

You CCP guys are the ones who debt trapped Sri Lanka, Pakistan, etc., by bribery to corrupt politicians. Apologists for the CCP need to be investigated for bribes. Also the CCP has to stop stealing land from the 18 neighbors it is trying to rob, like Tibet was invaded and its people robbed like native Americans or Palestinians. The PLAN will be sunk in one month if it dared to attack the US or our allies, Japan and Taiwan. US and Japanese weapons actually work.

[@robolobo6951]

@@mikefagiani1407 Stupid, must be a product of US's gutter education system. 🥱

[@sword7872]

Ed, the second speaker, calls for openness. I think china was smart enough to realise how the US would achieve its regime change was through this "openness". The cia now finds it difficult to impenetrate those close to xi and plot their dirty tricks. So in terms of openness the Chinese now understand why it isn't currently a beneficial thing for them.

[@siamcharm7904]

excellent insight

[@xiyang8989]

@@siamcharm7904 though, this is common knowledge in china,

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@lvjinbin28]

openness means COLOR REVOLUTION, REGIME CHANGE, COUP

[@kssam5867]

Openness does not mean a lack of vigilance. I don't remember the source, but to quote.."Solitude excludes pleasure, but does not always bring peace". If you do not pour water into a container, you will not know its leaks.

[@loyoyoyo]

Having a Chinese expert explain what the Chinese really think about these issues would enhance the show's credibility

[@therealdeal2163]

Yes it is amazing how many Chinese experts there are in the USA , who don't speak Chinese, never been to China , don't understand the Chinese psyche nor even studied Chinese history ....

[@mengsiongkheng113]

Absolutely agree. Somebody from China with an international stature will enhance the discourse. Having said that, I do appreciate that these gentlemen do have experience working in China albeit a bit dated.

[@rcmrcm3370]

The odds that any PRC expert would be allowed to disclose what the leadership really thinks vs. what they want you to think is very slim. I suspect the shoe fits the American side too, as both speakers are not ensconced in the USA permanent state now, though Chaz Freeman did yeoman work there up until the early 2000s.

[@MichaelRNYC]

Would love to see Eric Li or Ann Lee or Kishore

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

You get all of that on CGTN. They often have good debates featuring Chinese professors. I like the chap in the bottom window though. He is very clued up and pretty much says the same as a Chinese professor would say. It's the truth.

[@wanming149]

Chas Freeman is pretty much the definition of a wise old man, really knowledgeable.

[@mim8312]

He is like an old CCP-wise gangster, emphasizing CCP, which in his eyes, clearly, can do no wrong. LOL Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@luennganau8038]

Lets put one side the Narratives from the above Podcast. China is good at building economy's bridges to help developing countries to build their infra structure and industry with a package deal at extremely flexible low interest rate which is a win win issues for mutual benefits of both countries. The US IMPERIALISM is good at building military bridge's to create disharmony. disturbances havoc, conflict of interest to supply arms with turmoil & chaos to change a country regime to be their puppet in order to steal & rape their rich sources. Now answer this question, who will win in The competition???

[@lvjinbin28]

@@luennganau8038 USA still got best soft power so it's hard to say, but if USA keeps ruining more countries maybe poor countries would choose China.

[@mikefagiani1407]

You CCP guys are the ones who debt trapped Sri Lanka, Pakistan, etc., by bribery to corrupt politicians. Apologists for the CCP need to be investigated for bribes. Also the CCP has to stop stealing land from the 18 neighbors it is trying to rob, like Tibet was invaded and its people robbed like native Americans or Palestinians. The PLAN will be sunk in one month if it dared to attack the US or our allies, Japan and Taiwan. US and Japanese weapons actually work.

[@lvjinbin28]

@@mikefagiani1407 don't be brainwashed by propaganda, Srilanka, Pakistan or other countries they get more loans from World Bank or IMF, so why you only blame on China? because you are uneducated racist, Taiwan ROC also claims South Tibet in its constitution, ROC today still claims 11dashline, so you guys are the invader in Chinese Civil War. actually CCP attacked American allies in naval battle, like Second Taiwan strait crisis with Kuomingtang navy, and Paracel island battle with South Vietnam Navy, why US navy didn't do anything to destroy tiny PLAN then?

[@myfriendtanky]

When the dish is so good, the only way to discredit the dish is to pick on the chef's tools... A more productive approach is to look inwards review our own deficiencies if any, in the hope to bring a better dish to the table. The world is also a more interesting place when we can enjoy dishes from different cultures. The world is big enough for us to embrace everyone.

[@sylvesterfong9275]

Beautifully said. 👍👍👍🍾🥂🕊

[@yuanhaochue2889]

Absolutely brilliant interpretation of the self centered supremacism of Western mind set that anything non-Western is sub standard in order to remain the dominating hegemony systems in the world..

[@tommyls4357]

I agree.. that really is nicely put.

[@dlfields8429]

Freeman tells us what we don't like acknowledging but desperately needs to hear.

[@davidlawrence8085]

Love that analogy...."Its like smoking pot in a hot tub and fantasizing about tripping up competitors in track events, while they are out training"

[@Day.Of.The.GroundBreaker]

"Are you going to violate that cosmic arrangement, are you out of your mind?!" -- Dr. Sebi

[@ruoyuli4091]

china is run by engineers, hence they are promoted by ability, america is run by lawyers, whom are promoted by lying and manipulation through self interest

[@imrannaqiv2690]

Sir

[@kshen7485]

In nowadays China “Autocracy” means all our freedoms can not be above our social responsibilities, except following the rule of law. Especially capital should be “locked in the cage” because its greediness, selfishness and brutality are very harmful to the majority’s interests and government decision making. And democracy has been effectively conducted only between those outstanding leaders, instead of those votes of ordinary citizens. Same time the ordinary citizen’s concerns have truly been reaching to the top. In contrast, “democratic” America has been manipulated by capital, it can recklessly declare frequent war and over one million innocent Americans dead in the pandemic. In front of these criminals and genocides under the “beacon of the hill” the whole American society has been always keeping silence.

[@dav5253]

Remember President Franklin Delano Roosevelt was in power for a third term. Was it so bad for the United States? Why it is necessarily so worrisome for us when other country may have their leader in power for a third term? Even if it is bad for them, it is none of our business, right? We should focus on our own business to rebuild and improve for ourselves. When you spend all your time trying to criticize your competitor for doing something wrong in order to make yourself feel better, it is a sign of hopelessness in yourself.

[@livelirah9109]

Former chancellor Angela m had 3 terms, 15 years , Canadian PM Justin Trudeau going for 3rd term yeah thats right for f***** 15 years but its alright for west but not for china? Btw Chinese President has to go through the process inorder to be President, if the party leaders hasn't supported him he won't be elected for the 3rd time, i don't understand why the westerners don't understand the simple truth. And also he isn't seeking for infinite terms ....

[@brainwashington1332]

Angela Merkel was in power for 15 years

[@xtzhao2196]

The problem is just this: rich people in US just fear getting another Roosevelt, and trying best to prevent it from happening.

[@BEASTMODE-ki1pd]

China is not our competitor China is our enemy.

[@xtzhao2196]

@@BEASTMODE-ki1pd expression quite fits your name

[@teamtryxgg281]

As an Afghan expert, I totally agree with the gentleman at the bottom of the screen.

[@Bigbang嘿嘿崴嘟崴嘟嘟]

他有很多错误

[@galaxymetta5974]

USA reactions show that it is losing. How can a nation severely in debt to the tune of usd 31 trillion and with severe trade deficit be winning??

[@antixocialman]

USA 31 trillion in debt is : 7.04 trillion to foreign governments and the rest to the USA (Medicare social security etc) Deficit has been cut by 350 billion and on the path to cut another 1.5 trillion by end of year. USA is fine. Check china again and do comparisons. China debt is now astronomical

[@galaxymetta5974]

@@antixocialman Its time you revisit your econmics lecturer to get a proper education. Biden wishes there are more Americans like you. Cheers.

[@antixocialman]

@@galaxymetta5974 when people like you don’t have any input you resort to insulting others. Good luck

[@galaxymetta5974]

@@antixocialman Blame yourself for not checking your facts. We have a duty to correct your misinformation. Those educated know that this round of inflationary pressure started before Ukraine war and is caused by excessive USA debts of usd 31 trillion and printed usd 9 trillion. Looks like the world market is more educated and worried about usd than some Americans. Cheers.

[@antixocialman]

@@galaxymetta5974 USA debt . What are you talking about? USA has nothing to to do with this world wide inflation . I see you are not educated in economics and it’s fine. Hope they can teach better where you are so you can understand

[@hendetta]

Great discussion on an important topic. Would love to hear more from Chas Freeman in the future. Subbed.

one of the more compelling arguments I have heard to date. "Whining is not a Strategy" is correct. We are busy protecting •special interests" rather than stimulating real innovation. The U.S.A brand is broken and we need to fix it before we become the Kodak of first world Nations.

[@PikachooUpYou]

When you meddle in another countries political system and culture as America does, it is inevitable they close down and become more authoritarian to resist it.

[@GUSCRAWF0RD]

Of course even their authoritarianism is our fault in some way.

[@mikefagiani1407]

So WE are the ones forcing your CCP to murder Uighurs, protesters, Tibetans, etc.? Also the CCP has to stop stealing land from the 18 neighbors it is trying to rob, like Tibet was invaded and its people robbed like native Americans or Palestinians were. The PLAN will be sunk in one month if it dared to attack the US or our allies, Japan and Taiwan. US and Japanese weapons actually work.

[@heartofsteel7821]

@@GUSCRAWF0RD The biggest problem in the US is feminism. This may sound pedestrian by countries success stems fro the basic building structure which is a family. Feminocentrism in the US has glorified weakness laziness, indecisiveness and just escapism in the majority of American society. When your society allows feminism to dominate your society you lower standards to accommodate weak men and women(for fear of offending them). Look at America, women are everywhere, the men who are supposed to lead the country to posterity have been downtrodden and remain in the shadows. Women only thrive as long as you enjoy prosperity, when time come to really buckle up and build a nation the women will run away and leave men to fix the country them they will come back to demand equality. Therefore, will inevitably go down and the Chinese will surpass them.

[@francischoong5966]

Reflect deeply. Indeed we can see Every action has an equal and opposite reaction

[@meng-hsuanlee8543]

What bullcrap. The same argument that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is somehow US's fault. Everything is America's fault, as if Russia and China don't have their timelines and their own paranoia. China has ALWAYS been authoritarian. Point me to a time in history when China is not authoritarian. (No, the Republican Era is NOT a democracy.) Or Russia for that matter. Ridiculous and ignorant.

[@somsakdiuampornvanich3010]

There’s probably a good amount of truth in this: Professor Dennis Etler* American political analyst who holds a doctorate in anthropology from the University of California, Berkeley As I See It: “Why is it that the West is so preoccupied with China? The usual answer is that China's economic growth is challenging Western global hegemony which has held sway for at least 250 years. The Chinese military has also reached parity with that of the West, so it is no longer subject to Western intimidation and bullying. All that is true and reason for the West to want to savage China and portray it as the root of all evil.* But there is one other consideration that must be taken into account. It's not only China's economic prowess and military might that frightens the West, it is also China's success as a nation versus the West's failure. Moreover, China has forged a society in which there is harmony between its different ethnicities in contrast to the systemic racism that characterizes Western society. Western ruling elites and their media mouthpieces do not want to acknowledge the fact that China has eliminated extreme poverty while more and more of their own people descend into poverty. They do not want to admit that China has constructed a 21st century infrastructure while they lag far behind. They do not want to confront the fact that the Chinese people ⁹overwhelmingly support their government while people in the West have lost confidence in their own, they do not want to accept that China beat COVIDC-19 while they haven't, and finally they are loathe to accept the fact that a non-white nation has out performed them and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future. In order to deflect attention away from these truths the West has concocted a series of lies and slanders that allow them to deny reality. Instead of poverty alleviation the West imagines "genocide." Instead of the advances in HSR, EVs, alt-energy and e-commerce they focus on "IP theft," instead of a socioeconomic system that serves the people, they accuse China of forced labor and forced sterilizations. Instead of seeing China as defending its national sovereignty in the South China Sea, Hong Kong and Taiwan, it's called an aggressor. *All the China-bashing serves multiple purposes but ONE of the main reasons is to make sure that people in the West do not get to hear nor see what the real China is all about because if they did they may get ideas that the Western elites don't want then to have, such as socialism works for the betterment of the 99% while capitalism works primarily to enrich the 1%.” This is the best one, do send this to your overseas friends because it is from the eyes of an American.

[@hockchyequa2776]

Chas Freeman has hit the nail on its head.

[@bansrajmattai4548]

Freeman's take is unassailable. A preeminent realist on several counts, but especially in relation to the educational system!

[@mikefagiani1407]

Is this Freeman or some other commie? Benedict Arnold much? Read Peter Z e I h a n and other authors' books on the subject, so you do not embarrass yourself by making more, silly claims.

[@cshan5424]

Chas Freeman is one of the most wiseman among all American politicians. Pity not a lot people wants to listen.

[@macrosense]

The U.S. is automatically losing by measuring how well it is “competing” with China rather than measuring how well it is managing itself.

[@fica375]

My favorite country in the world really needs to get its act together. People always make the justification: we have the best universities. People from all over come here to study. Yes but they leave. And it’s not our Ivy League schools that are the problem, they are the exception, but rather our broad education system is in dire need of restructuring. On a grand scale, the majority of our graduates should show Ivy League eligibility at the very least. Need I mention the racial discrepancy that was all the news here?

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@hangtuah888]

Yes got a million to bribe your entry to the so-called Ivy League institutions. If you based your entry not on meritocracy but on the dollar, no amount of classification that these institutions are the best is going to provide a fig leaf to the Emperor with no clothes.

[@fica375]

@@hangtuah888 Hey, we had a very revealing scandal about that too. Mostly involving celebrities and their precious mediocre children.

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Blame the teacher's unions and their lackey the Democrat Party!

[@hangtuah888]

@@jonnieinbangkok Yes, always slate the blame to someone else

[@shoilee2000]

Prof Tyler Jost’s characterization of Mao’s era is categorically wrong from a Chinese point of view. Mao took over a broken China. Internally he and his team had to do some serious housekeeping to remove the large number of local militias that were created by the falling Qing Dynasty and the KMT party left behind. Overlaid on these were the Korean War and Vietnam. If these two wars had drained America politically and financially, think about how they had impacted the newly born China. America backed KMT because it believed China should have fallen apart. But she had not. One cannot deny Mao paid an important role in navigating China through all these crisis while put China on the map with her own Nuclear Weapon development, space program, launching of satellite and ballistic missile development. Before Mao left the political scene, he restructured the army to prevent the prospect of China breaking up. He also met with Nixon and pathed the way for China returning to the international community. Thus Mao had done everything in his power to set the scene for Deng. It was Mao who sent Deng to visit America in the first place. To see Deng as “replacing” Mao as oppose to “succeeding” Mao completely misread Chinese politics. Even if Mao wished Deng to succeed from him, Deng still had to earn it himself.

[@mikefagiani1407]

Well, Mao and his imitator, Xi and his CCP are the purest of evil. Mao murdered an estimated 45 million Chinese by creating an entity of utter corruption: your CCP. I believe in "respecting them" only right up to the point when we can sink them and only as we prepare to do so. See Forbes' "The China Tribunal Pronounced Its Verdict On Organ Harvesting In China." What do you know about this? Some just claim this evil is not happening while denying all but their foreign assets access to most Uighurs in confidence in countries when they could speak without facing death for speaking. Similarly, in 1943, it might have also been impossible to prove the evil holocaust at Auschwitz was occurring, even though after Germany was conquered, it was discovered to have been occurring all along. I have observed Chinese natives tremble with fear when I have shown them videos of the Tienanmen Square Massacre, as they are shown in the video carting off people shot by the PLA who were just protesting for democracy, and other protests, and not wanting to learn anything about this. While I have no personal knowledge about the holocaust or the Tienanmen Square Massacre or the current genocides of Tibetans, Uighurs, Falun Gong, students, protesters, and reportedly, Han people kidnapped off the street in China who unfortunately turned out to be tissue matches for rich buyer or Xi or some other leading CCP gangster, I believe those reports. Reality is not malleable. You apparently worship monsters like Mao or Xi, like an old Aztec priest. Mao was just like Hitler or Pol Pot, albeit Mao murdered millions more than the other two combined.

[@janoluhs4056]

Yea no, the cultural revolution had nothing to do with "fixing" China. Mao nearly destroyed China and Deng made it great by realising that authoritarian governance and capitalism can exist in parallel. You are just reciting Chinese propaganda on Mao's history.

[@兼明-p2b]

@@janoluhs4056 You're just repeating Western propaganda

[@janoluhs4056]

@@兼明-p2b That's not an argument.

[@NPC-oc9oo]

@@janoluhs4056 Autocratic capitalism works. Nazi Germany did it and they never collapsed like communism did. It took overwhelming force from the outside to destroy and suppress fascism but it never failed on its own.

[@untertk3048]

Great discussion! Thanks to Watson Institute for organizing this kind of educational and rational debate. I am a firm believer the more US and China know and understand each other, the better it is for the citizen of both countries and for the world. US, despite it is on its course to have a smaller footprint than before on world stage, is still the most powerful country. China on the other hand is still a lot smaller in total or per capital GDP measures, but rising so rapidly in the last 30 years and narrowing the gap with the US. This big picture is not going to change whether US likes it or not. So I think the world will be more peaceful if US and China get along. Btw, very, very impressed agreed with Mr Freeman’s analysis on China and US-China relationships.

[@xushenxin]

26:41, "a leader deems himself indispensable..." have you thought about it from a country perspective? Why the country needs a leader to be there for 30 years? The term limits removal is actually not about the leader. China's State Council believes it is better this way overall. I think State Council knows this more than you do about this issue, otherwise they won't pass this change.

[@theolich4384]

The Chinese State Council is the executive branch of the Chinese government. It does not legislate. The one actually legislate though, the National People's Congress, is usually considered a rubber stamp to legitimize the Party's will. Then there is the CCP, which operates outside of (mostly parallels, sometimes above) the government and hold the real power. I do agree Xi's 3rd term is made possible by the consensus of the party's elites, not just Xi's personal will, but the decision making process is highly opaque here. While I do believe it will serve China's interest in the short-to-middle term, there is no doubt it damages China's political ecology in the long run. One day Xi will be gone - he's human, after all - and it will be difficult for his successor to take a foothold among all the contenders. The ensuing tension may risk chaos and social upheaval, weakening the state. It's like Chinese dynastical politics all over again.

[@mim8312]

I bet they do. They want to lead and steal and get hundreds of mistresses... forever. LOL.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@PropagandasaurusRex]

No term limits in a developing country actually makes a lot of sense, if you have the right leader. It allows for very broad and very long term planning, whereas the political wind may change every 4 to 5 years in other "more democratic" countries, thereby hindering or undermining long term important projects that have already cost a lot of time, effort and money. Do we consider it "democratic"? No, not by our definition. But who's to say that our type of democracy, or even democracy in general is the best way to govern for any given country in any particular stage of development? I even think there is a good case to be made that democracy is detrimental to the development of a surging nation state.

[@elmohead]

@@PropagandasaurusRex Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand all have no term limits to the leaders.

[@Clone42]

Detailed public disclosure of all think tank funding sources, please.

[@dancerinmaya6813]

The guy at the bottom window is Chas Freeman, who is the epitome of a Chinese expert any Westerner could wish to achieve. When he was talking about facts and data, the moderator and the other guy obviously hated it--a scholar or analyst or "expert" would have listened with interest...

[@jimmywang1586]

23:48 "Hubris, Denial, and Complacency we currently exhibit" sounds exactly like the twilight years of China's Qing Dynasty!

[@Eudamonia-123]

Excellent! I only wish Mr Freeman’s audio was a little better. Thanks for this discussion!

[@上海自干五-周傲]

to this Edward guy, about social media, there is 1.4 billion people in China. why would you expect all Chinese people to be wise and decent? it is social media after all.

[@winkstorm]

Kudos to Amb Chas Freeman for his fingers on the pulse.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@canada9436]

I can’t agree more with what Ambassador Chaz Freeman’s point of view. He laid out a path for USA to be great again.

[@gregwang8628]

Why must who be winning? Implies someone losing? Why not win-win? Your God say live and let live, yes or no? You still live in a divide and conquer ideology world, this is where you fall behind. Please coexist peacefully!

[@michaelkilcommons57]

The Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs is a great tribute to a great father and son team.

[@sjmcn500]

The first gentleman was bang on when he identified the rentier class and the oligopoly rulers of the US as being cancerous (to paraphrase). Financialization does not an economy make, a civilization must actually create and build things other than methods of gaming the system to amass wealth upwards to the have-yaghts from the have-nots. This abandonment of the social contract along the systematic corporate coup d'etat (John Ralston Stall) whereby every lever of control in the system has been ripped away from the people creates the nihilism that just might feed the gun violence the second gentleman refers to.

[@eclecticmn4838]

Kim Iversen and Max Blumenthal have good takes on the Uighurs. Michael Hudson has good videos on Chinese industrial capitalism vs US financial capitalism.

[@bestintentions6089]

I absolutely love how military industrial complex and hand of triple letter agencies is in this.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@jenme4796]

Ed’s comment on the racism on Muslim, Hong Kongers and Taiwanese is BS, it’s more like the other way around, i as a Hong Konger to be fair have witness local people discriminating mainlanders on the train and subway and heard comments made to them was disheartening. Not only does there are competition between the US with China but there’s also competition between the youth in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.

[@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050]

I am from neither of the place you mention but I agree with you on the part that mainlanders were discriminated against. I witness this in the US. This was even depicted in a HK movie called Comrades: Almost a Love Story.

[@wulung5943]

China is not competing, just solving problems and improving the lives of its people. US is also not competing but trying to stop China's rise and failing to do so. China steadily grows stronger, more resilient and grow its circle of friends

[@kabeerharrythakur8288]

Wisdom exudes from Chas Freeman and yet the West refuses to pay heed. As the old saying goes, you can take the horse to the stream/fountain but you can force it to drink. 🤷

[@PhiloSurfer]

You can try leading the horse to the water - this might work :)

[@mim8312]

Something exudes but I, for one, would not want to touch it or let it get near me. LOL

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@kabeerharrythakur8288]

@@mim8312 Thick skinned neo cons war monger deep state ascribers wouldn't either.

[@tanthxx]

if you are a true liberal or true pro-democracy advocate, then you should embrace diversity of ideas, systems and cultures, and that defining and demanding for universality of any one value is flawed. Good governance must embrace this.

[@duckmanone5435]

So true - but it doesn't exist as although the people can vote in the USA they do not control the outcomes that both sides are subject to.

[@henrywong1486]

Who is winning between China and US is an interesting topic for discussion and a lot for understand. However, it can also generate good and bas effects when competition becomes the main focus and made to out wit and destroy one country or the other. I believe what US or China should compete against oneself on how to make its citizens live more peacefully and joyfully.

[@duinay3]

the US competes with China by sabotaging them 😂

[@BEASTMODE-ki1pd]

We don't do competition

[@duckmanone5435]

@@BEASTMODE-ki1pd we see it like what happened to Nancy Kerrigan by Tonya Harding - cannot succeed in peace . . .

[@herptek]

I find it quite curious how characteristics or values that are described here as reactionary are seen as pathologies of the US. Speech like that gives one the impression that the ideology of the west calls for it to be even more communist or revolutionary than its communist adversaries. Xenophobia is presented as the great internal problem and co-operation with the PRC as a cure. This seems to me to be symptomatic of the west undervaluing itself in decline while getting lost in weird admiration of its ascending rival. The ideologically imposed lack of in-group preference of western nations is something their enemies can exploit. Progressive or revolutionary ideology is a strategic liability for ones own society first and foremost.

[@mim8312]

Its "ascending rival?" Clearly, you drank the lemonade and asked for seconds. The CCP's China is sinking and trying to deceive foreign investors into bailing them out as we speak by manipulating its ponzi-scheme-companies, which all need MASSIVE bailouts, like Evergrande.

[@mim8312]

Dream on! It is China, whose population is aging rapidly, not the USA. Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP stock markets are also going to collapse more soon, because the CCP cannot come up with the money to pay the foreign, dollar-denominated bonds coming due of most RE developers and companies. That is why they are manipulating their stock market now to raise it to cause greedy, foolish foreign investors to buy in and bail them out of their impending doom. Such bailouts will only be temporary though and people "investing" in the CCP's China will lose everything: the CCP will continue driving China into the ground as China, whose population is aging rapidly, not the USA, cannot compete in the world.

[@mikelloyd520]

You are wrong. The west OVERESTIMATEs itself and is confused why China is doing almost everything better, inside China and across the planet. Simple answer, and it ain’t politics……….

[@len2063]

Good and open discussions about US challenges. First step to solve problems is to admit and locate the problem. But at the end you have to get up from the bed and solve the problem and that is US biggest problem.

[@alaskavaper2490]

I never tire of listening to the insights of Chaz Freeman. If only American politicians could lead from his experience and knowledge the world would be better off.

[@eclecticmn4838]

58:00 Not many know that about US IP history. When the US had few authors we had no copyright protection. We ripped off UK authors like Dickens so no one bought US authors who cost more. When the US had our own authors we honored copyrights.

[@oswarz]

Nobody seems to want to answer the question “why”. I’d like to see a clear and honest explanation.

[@Byronik]

I want to see him debate Peter Zeihan

[@hydroac9387]

Agree! This panel seems to be "old school' Sino strategists that relies on wishful thinking and supposition. This panel has lots of opinions but are very thin in data. I suspect Zeihan would politely beat them over the head and shoulders with demography, geography, resource analysis, and history.

[@Pinstripe0451]

Zeihan is very biased and his China analysis must be taken with a big grain of salt.

[@alexhill8088]

@@Pinstripe0451 Zeihan states facts about food production and demographics. Even if he is biased, his analysis is only based on data trends.

[@pisablavatski4876]

Peter ziehan is just a joker and a parrot of ev!l angl0 regime😂😂😂

[@siamcharm7904]

giant chas vs an ignorant pygmy.

[@calvyncraven1141]

The moderator and 2nd speaker feels so uncomfortable knowing that China is leading.

[@mim8312]

Dream on! Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP stock markets are also going to collapse more soon, because the CCP cannot come up with the money to pay the foreign, dollar-denominated bonds coming due of most RE developers and companies. That is why they are manipulating their stock market now to raise it to cause greedy, foolish foreign investors to buy in and bail them out of their impending doom. Such bailouts will only be temporary though and people "investing" in the CCP's China will lose everything: the CCP will continue driving China into the ground.

[@windps1410]

But why are so many Chinese families sending their high school graduates to America or other english speaking countries for college education instead of else where?

[@duckmanone5435]

Because in China the competition to get into the top 265 odd universities is fierce and only about 3% make it while all you need to go to most universities overseas in $money and China has plenty of that!! And Chinese $money is always most welcome. Although Australia appears not to be as welcoming as previously and are probably wondering why the 100,000s of Chinese students are not banging on their doors to get back in - after over the last few years listening to the China bashing by Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton trying to gain political points smearing China - has this deterred many Chinese parents from sending their precious children to a country that may now be unsafe for them?

[@kevan5321]

There we go…. “Both sides have made mistakes”, “We did the same in the past…..”.

[@hsingkao2024]

It seems China is not interested to compete.

[@mim8312]

Just in conquering all the 18 neighbors with whom they have territorial disputes, i.e., meaning whose territory they want to steal: Taiwan, The Philippines, Vietnam, etc., etc..

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@palmpalm5131]

@@mim8312 how do they steal Taiwan when Taiwan is a province of China. Go watch the China Mirage.

[@mim8312]

​@@palmpalm5131 You CCP steal Taiwan now and next week, you will be claiming that Hawaii and then Alaska and then Japan are each provinces of China. I, too, could claim that I am the emperor of the world and own New York, but lying does not make it so, CCP.

[@duckmanone5435]

@@mim8312 Those minor disputes have been there for years - they do not want to go to war like the USA does continuously becuase they cannot succeed in peacetime and who's going to buy their weapons if there's going to be peace! War means profits for the elite and MIC - and distracts from their not insignificant lack of performance at home.

[@qilu2004]

both speakers made some good points. both countries have a lot of problems, some of which quite serious. the extrem nationalism shown in both countries are alarming. it seems the confrontation has brought the ugly side of both sides to surface. i can feel the public discontent towards the backward steps taken in recent past, and we will see if that can be reversed down the road. on the other hand, the structural problems of usa appear to be even harder to overcome. americans are so divided that the left and right are so determined to fight the opposite that nobody is allowed to take the middle ground. it suffices to say the 21st century doesn't look very bright on either side the pacific. we are heading into a storm.

[@ritzl2723]

I’m torn between praising good/nuanced discussions like this and choking on the equally nuanced underlying cold-war era hatred of Russia that appears to inform it. US imperialism is ABSOLUTELY a domination mentality (last stage domination, to be sure!) in the pursuit of global financialization and subsequent forcible extraction of all value on a global scale. The fact that Russia was/is the first nuclear power to be faced with that fact on a military level - and responded rationally and with clear expression(s) of resistance to that imperial transgression - does NOT make Russia somehow less legitimately concerned with its internal improvement as your guests dismissed for Russia, but correctly attributed to China. Putin/Russia obviously stopped and reversed the Yeltsin imperial rape of Russia. That is a good thing, NOT a bad thing. To impute lesser motivations to Russia than to China, as your guests did in this video, is a crystal clear illustration of why the world is on the brink of Armageddon. It’s “OLD THINK”, pure and simple. And I like your guests! They just don’t seem to shed their historical immersion in “Russia-bad” OLD THINK in order to appraise/address a new reality. I see this inability in others that I like, like Bacevich and even Ritter to a lesser extent, but uncorrected, it’s a direct path to apocalypse. Oh well. Insightful video. Not quite encyclical though. ✌️

[@benikramer5115]

Divide and conquer has lead to individual and collective traumas, and collective square stupidity . The problems resulting from this are only solvable with collective intelligence. Without forgiveness at all levels this kind of intelligence cannot develop, and the future will remain determined by the past, multiplied by more people and a declining quality of the environment.

[@kingcrazymani4133]

I listened to 7:14 of the litany. I’ve been on College Hill Providence several times in winter and walked around. I’ve stood in the field in front of the train station and on the sidewalk in front of the mall and looked up College Hill in wintertime. Many times. If someone would turn the heat on in the nice houses on College Hill in the winter time, it would help me have a chance of believing “no can do”. It’s not so different than standing in Brown’s Greek fraternity quad and wondering why there is a statue of Rome’s Augustus Caesar there. I still never got an answer. The zombies walking around were evidently not programmed to even think about the divergence. Providence is a minor example of a generic problem that the PRC, if it does not have the same problems, should be grabbing the bullhorn and yelling about. Has the Ambassador ever taken a picture of the PRC’s NYC consulate from the Hudson River piers on a cloudy day? The setting and backdrop are really funny.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@SameAsAnyOtherStranger]

The Netherlands holds the key to China's relevance in chip development. The CPU wafer manufacturing machines China and every other country "owns" are just one update away from being bricked.

[@blueeyes6192]

Just like the blockade with ISS? China is already building a 7nm plant 😂😂😂😂. When she catches up usa is fcked

[@duckmanone5435]

Since this article ASML Holding N.V. is ignoring the USA Anti China Chip Act and will continue to supply China with their photolithography machines - at around $200million each.

[@emmawang1999]

People in the Xi's generation have a strong affection for the Russians. It is true that the Russian Czar looted and stole a lot of lands from the China's Qing Dynasty. But since the Russian communists took over, Russia has helped China more than any countries. The early years of the Chinese communist party was financed by Russia. In the first 4 years of Japanese invasion of China (1937-1941), when every other country, which included the US, just stood by and watched, the Soviet Union was the only country that sent its air force to China and helped China fight the Japanese invasion. After it defeated Nazi, it immediately launched a large-scale attack against the Japanese in the Northwest China. In the fifty and sixties, the Soviet Union helped China lay the foundation for China's industrialization. The Chinese always remember who has helped them and who has hurt and betrayed them.

[@antixocialman]

Is this what they tell you in the new education system that us did not help when Japan colonized china? Ok it’s great to know

[@emmawang1999]

​@@antixocialman You do know that Japan launched the full-scale invasion of China in 1937, and the US did not join the war until the Pearl harbor attack in 1941. Japan was a resource-depleted country, and it totally depended on the US for oil. After the invasion, the US continued to sell oil to Japan. The US stopped selling until Japan attacked the British interest in the South Asia. American oil embargo against Japan led to the Pearl Harbor attack.

[@antixocialman]

@@emmawang1999 I think my first comment was clear when I said the new education system is definitely removing many key factors . It is fine

[@emmawang1999]

@@antixocialman Why do not you tell us what your facts are? Then we determine if they are alternative facts.

[@antixocialman]

@@emmawang1999 wang you are from China and China reaches you different to reality. It is your choice to know or not. I’m not going to fight your Chinese narrative because all of you think your word is correct.

[@dav5253]

I totally agree with Prof. Edward Steinfeld's final comments about for us all to focus on improving our own society so we can live harmoniously together in a better condition instead of trying to achieve and maintain global primacy. Great thought, Prof. Edward Steinfeld!

[@xtzhao2196]

That's it, by the competition only if social service can be better for most people, it will be worthy, otherwise it just become another day of game of power, nothing new.

[@kshen7485]

Very simple, because nowadays America is out of juice. It has to clean its messy backyard.

[@erpthompsonqueen9130]

Thank you for sharing your perspective.

[@pr0newbie]

Great debate by westerners who have a pulse on China. I share some of the same concerns Edward has especially regarding open borders due to Covid-19, but am not conflating it with China’s desire for globalisation. I also understand agree with concerns about the ossification of systems under Xi’s continued reign, but can see why Xi has chosen to do so considering the Russian alliance (Xi - Putin friendship) and adversarial conflict instigated by the US. China made the grave mistake of offending the American business community with its overly-tight local markets in the early 2010s. They acknowledged their mistakes and sought to rectify it with Trump but it was too late. The American political class and state department now had the license to go all-out to be adversarial against a peer competitor. Growing up in the previous century, I recall western mainstream wisdom that Asians will never overtake the West because we are somehow incapable of being innovative. Reading through the comments, I guess that sentiment has manifested in different ways.

[@hazelwray4184]

... because 'we' are incapable of being innovative - just to be clear, I'm presuming that your Asian.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@kshen7485]

Your opinion just like a frog in a well when you say something about Xi. Once you visit China you will know how narrow-minded you are.

[@BEASTMODE-ki1pd]

I guess you forgot what thucydides trap is. ☢️

[@mim8312]

​@@BEASTMODE-ki1pd Baloney! That claim was made as to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union and was wrong as it is now. First, China's economy is about to collapse because it will lose its economic multiplier effects when its real estate sector collapses more and more. Second, US and EU companies are moving out of China to Southeast Asia, the US, Mexico, or other, less troublesome countries where criminals are not in charge. Third, that term has been used to excuse tyrannies' misconduct and urge the world to ignore their crimes before and was wrong as it is wrong now. China is going down as foreign investors realize that their funds will be stolen and confiscated by the CCP when it invades Taiwan and China is sanctioned like the CCP stole its own citizens' savings, which caused it now to intimidate them with tanks in Henan, so the protesters do not hang the CCP crooks.

[@michaeligloo]

Sound issue should be solved before the zoom.

[@olligo330]

Yes, American education needs to remove university marketing and allowing students to grade their teachers in ways that impact an educator's job! That would help immensely! Power back into hands of educators, not pleasing the 'customer'. Then, pay educators more than doctors, as done in China and other places that value education!

[@coastwalker101]

America appears to be disintegrating before our eyes with a loss of faith in all the things like education and opportunity for all that made it great. China is winning hands down by steady bureaucratic progress. In effect democracy is a failed exercise.

[@SpookyJohnathan]

Liberal democracy hasn't failed, but it was never meant to be democratic. Never in the history of America has even a simple majority been in control of their democracy, with disenfranchisement of the majority of the population being the norm. At its foundation, only rich, land or business owning white males, 6% of the population, could even vote, and that was the case for most of our history, with the struggle for suffrage often becoming a violent one right through to the lifetimes of most of the readers here. When has America even experimented with democracy or opportunity for all in the first place? Even if you want to be extremely generous, no one could honestly answer at any point before 1965, and who here would look back at any point since then and say that Americans were truly free?

[@oswarz]

@@SpookyJohnathan Thank you.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

China is shrinking, they really have no way to increase population growth atm other than breeding programms. Hence China will drop by 20% in pop by 2050ish. After that they will have somewhat the same pop as the EU, still more than the US, but the EU has infrastrukturen and the US inventivness that both don't yet exist in that way in China.

[@AndrejY94]

lol you consider the USA a democracy? Its first class oligarchy.

[@Iquey]

@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 maybe china should become by some miracle, less racist and start looking into allowing immigration from places like Africa and India or in some cases, the United States even... 😂

[@sarcasmo57]

It was super interesting.

[@polyglot8]

I needed to hear Chas Freeman's sober diagnosis following a few Pollyannaish videos from Peter Zeihan.

[@daisyliu9129]

I think except for a couple of slips due to, I guess, lack of access to realities, the two speakers make largely fair points. I think if only every time America points fingers or gets hand in another country, it directs instead the energy/resources back to the improvement of the domestic society/people, America would still have a good century to go as the greatest country in the world.

[@duckmanone5435]

Yes good comment Daisy there is potential - but very difficult to enact as who provides all of the money to get them elected to make the changes - and the 'lobbying' - today's legalised corruption - pretty difficult to get around that - looks like a presidential campaign now needs in xs of $10billion . . . and this unfortunately requires a 'payback' - this is 'Freedom and Democracy' American Style

[@ibnbattuta1304]

Focusing on winning and losing is very petty and silly.

[@frostydei5012]

When he described the ruling class as "eunuchs playing games" 😂💚💚💚 I laughed So hard, it was so unexpected 🥂🍻 I seriously almost peed.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@brainwashington1332]

In Chinese history, eunuchs played a prominent role in dynastic decline because they were close to the center of power - the emperor. They controlled the flow of information, use that information to blackmail, subvert officials for personal gain. Reminds me of the ClA. They are playing an increasing role in US politics, a number of them are employed by corporate media as political pundits upon retirement.

[@virupakshawalla5734]

China has many problems USA is in the process of self destruction. Unfortunately UK is even worse in that respect but Europe is also goto decline. I don't see a way back for West. I do see several quays forward for East. The ideas of how to reverse the trend are detached from the actual realities.

[@evita9284]

For those who are old enough, like me, to be at when Colombia discovered America, USA was once a 13 dimensional civilization. It was so beautiful and the speed of light was near infinity. But during the many wars fought, USA used dimensional strikes to lower the number of dimensions and the speed of light. Thus, USA now has only 3 dimensions. It is intending to use the next strike vs China to flatten it so USA can adapt in a new pocket dinension of 2D space. This must stop as once it hits 1D, all would be lost.

[@_alia]

The only comment worth reading.

[@zatoichiable]

US has forgotten how to produce. Because of the value of US dollars why make when you can easily buy cheap....

[@orangutan4696]

USA needs a total reform on education and political systems.

[@samlim7431]

Freeman speaks accurately ,the rest just hyponises

[@haraldkoch4446]

why are there 300,000 communist Chinese studying in the USA. And hardly more than a few American students study in the The PRC? I THINK YOU HAVE LOST YOUR WAY. I'm Confused.

[@ddcwu2515]

thats why i can read ，但是你不能

[@duckmanone5435]

becuase of the fierce competition where only 3% are able to enter the top 265 odd universities in China but to enter most universities in the USA or elsewhere all that you need is money - enough money only and most welcome!

[@mmouser2800]

I just don't understand what the guy is talking about regarding the openeess being closed off... The Chinese literally has been connecting more with others via BRI and the recent BRIC gathering.

[@monkeyking-self-proclaimed7050]

If it ain't broke, why fix it. If leadership is good, why replace it.

[@magnaviator]

Merkel was chancellor for almost 20 years. The prime minister of Singapore was the son of the former PM and SIngapore is doing fine.

[@giannislainas5187]

That old timer knows what up. He looked a bit off at the start,but when he started talking he was on point in everything.

[@mustbtrouble]

audio sucks.

[@duckmanone5435]

cc means subtitles available - only for the literate

[@mustbtrouble]

@@duckmanone5435 but audio sucks

[@connie01]

I have been playing the chess for 5000 years. Sometimes I am so tired that I fall asleep. Someone overturned my checkerboard. I tidied it up. They still have to play chess with me calmly, otherwise, they will be swiped out. 5000 years ago, I encountered the flood as Egyptians did. 4000 years ago, I caress the bronze -wares, as Babylonians did. 3000 years ago, I thought about philosophy, as Greek did. 2000 years ago, I conquered the east and west, as Romanians did. 1000 years ago, I were abundantly wealthy as were Arabians. Now i compete with Americans. I have been at the gambling table for 5000 years while all my counterparts have changed alternatively.

[@hc8379-f4f]

Predictable succession of power has been the case in the UK for far longer than in the US, where it was totally disrupted bet 1860-1865, not counting some stolen elections here and there due to its strange electoral system. Heck, Canada has had a more settled system of power transmission than the US for the last 100 years. The US electoral system is now a captured system. Big money runs both parties, and there is no possibility of a third party making inroads.

[@windps1410]

It takes a tremendous of courage to tell the true information about the world than parrot talking or mud slabbing like our mainstream media. Thanks and salute to Watson Institute.

[@thor8086]

Opinion of Chinese co-opted China expert. Should US ignore Uyghurs and HongKong problems? Since US have had used concentration camp in past century we should ignore Chinese concentration camp? Then should we have ignored Nazi concentration camp also? As our global civilization evolve, we should hold humanities to new responsible standards.

[@ivyshy98]

ed steinfeld thinking like the stereotypical american, worrying about what others should do instead of what we should do. just because he speaks a few words of mandarin he thinks he understands the chinese psyche. that's one of the major problems we face, we gauge the chinese as what we would do in their place. not sure how much time chas spent in china or if it's purely academic, but he has a much better understanding of what's going on than most others I've heard.

[@maxmillion868]

Imagine a 250 year old trying to outsmart a 7000 years old in World Affair and Culture Thank You 1/7/2022 .

[@andrewlim7751]

Actually 4k years.

[@maxmillion868]

@@andrewlim7751 hello 4k years is based on English history but based on Chinese history it is 7000 years or more Thank you 107/2022.

[@andrewlim7751]

@@maxmillion868 Documented with evidence 4k, no evidence 5,6,7k.

[@andrewlim7751]

@@maxmillion868 President Trump: "The Chinese have 5k year history?" President Xi: "Not that long, it's about 4k." Who knows, maybe you know their history better than their historians?

[@_alia]

I love comments like these, that ignore the continuity of history so that they can say "my number is bigger". The implication that the US just made up its own Western Culture entirely at birth is SO funny. Imagine a 7000-y.o. culture with little growth to show for it, struggling to be relevant, versus a 250-y.o. culture that invented Europe, and then decided to coast.

[@cyberslim7955]

Maybe it's the other way around: Social media exposes shitty politician and policy?

[@rariri1]

The speakers is right to say that what the Chinese are more concerned with is it to make the living condition for their citizens better and not not focusing to become the most powerful country in the world, which is a fallacy and a pipe dream for any country to achieve, which will only take us to the start of another cold war that no country can win. The other countries will not idly sit by to allow one country to rule the world. That is why focusing on solving America's social problems is a better way to go according to Trump who says make America great again. I think Trump is playing the best song for America. It makes all the sense in the world. Spending America's limited resources pursuing another Arms race that leads to self destruction is totally counter productive. Our bridges and roadways and infrastructures need fixing. Sick and poor people in America needs help. The mental sick and the homeless need help. Have we thought about this? It is always better to be a peace maker than to create wars. The word of God says blessed are the peace makers not the warmongers. Don't we want the blessings of God on this nation? Apostle R.

[@duckmanone5435]

Yes you have a lot of that right but although Trump wants to MAGA protectionism is not the way to go and will be self defeating. Much like welfare - it becomes shackles which will hold you back as welfare has done to many indigenous peoples when not directly targeted and accounted for.

[@punkrachmaninoff]

It is time to get real about the influence of foreign funded active measures influencing our online discourse. Good job Chas. Do better Gen-Xers - the risk of avoiding that situation will only guarantee that lose your kushy jobs to generations of total chaos.

[@solgato5186]

It's more important to get real about the influence of billionaires on our online discourse.

[@mim8312]

Foreign funded? Are you saying that Freeman is CCP-funded given how he loves them, apparently?? Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP stock markets are also going to collapse more soon, because the CCP cannot come up with the money to pay the foreign, dollar-denominated bonds coming due of most RE developers and companies. That is why they are manipulating their stock market now to raise it to cause greedy, foolish foreign investors to buy in and bail them out of their impending doom. Such bailouts will only be temporary though and people "investing" in the CCP's China will lose everything: the CCP will continue driving China into the ground as China, whose population is aging rapidly, not the USA, cannot compete in the world.

[@ПИЦКВлад]

At last, some sane, rational, and relatively reasonable Americans🇺🇸😁👍

[@johnhewitt8784]

Isn't the truth that in the 'Golden Age' the bulk of the American population was young/youngish who were ambitious and vigorous whereas now the bulk of the population is old/oldish and more concerned with their declining looks and abilities - to paraphrase JFK ' Ask not what your country do for you but ask what you can do for your country'!!

[@mim8312]

Dream on! That describes China, whose population is aging rapidly, not the USA. Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP stock markets are also going to collapse more soon, because the CCP cannot come up with the money to pay the foreign, dollar-denominated bonds coming due of most RE developers and companies. That is why they are manipulating their stock market now to raise it to cause greedy, foolish foreign investors to buy in and bail them out of their impending doom. Such bailouts will only be temporary though and people "investing" in the CCP's China will lose everything: the CCP will continue driving China into the ground as China, whose population is aging rapidly, not the USA, cannot compete in the world.

[@mikelloyd520]

Yes. That has a lot to do eith usa decline. But selfish greed is number one.

[@fredfrond6148]

I think that Edward is taking the global citizen approach. While I do not agree with everything Ed said I like his approach.

[@liubang9375]

Why not cooperation between US and China rather than competition ?? Because the American fear they will lose their Hegemony power which was not in the Chinese interest ..Therefore my suggestion the American should work along with the Chinese now when they still have leverage before it to late , because China will eventually overtake them in the future....

[@henrywong1486]

China has a political system in which succession is not in obscurity. In contrast, the January 6, 2020 Capitol attack just exposed the political succession issue is seriously in question. This similar problem appears in US prescribed democratic political system. This US political model is divisive and oftentimes, cause of stagnation to its own progress.

[@mim8312]

Dear Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills (a.k.a. involuntary, organ donors of the future) or their traitorous cronies, called “white monkeys” by the CCP: As to the claims that the CCP never invaded Tibet or other countries and does not want to invade Taiwan, despite Xi's statements, are you on drugs? You want us to overlook the fact that the CCP's invasion of Taiwan would enable it to interdict the shipping lanes of Japan and South Korea and intimidate them into allowing its bullying hegemony. It would also allow the CCP to rob the wealthy Taiwanese people for its crooked CCP gangsters when the CCP's crooks already robbed the mainland Chinese people with tofu real estate projects. Remember the CCP’s Evergrande! Moreover, it is not the USA but China's CCP gang that is threatening its neighbors, who are our allies: e.g., Taiwan, (threatening to nuke) Japan, (threatening to nuke) Australia, the Philippines, India, etc. That backfired on you splendidly. LOL As to claims by the CCP that flus in the USA in 2019 were Covid, there is NO EVIDENCE that this was the Covid 19 coronavirus whose closest relative was only harvested in caves by the leader of the Wuhan lab, which has now refused to allow access to its databases of coronaviruses to see if they harvested other, closer relatives to Covid 19, which mutated in human tissue cultures after coming in the caged bats in their labs. Neither the US nor Italy nor Spain have the bats who are the carriers of these coronaviruses and have been for thousands or at least hundreds of years in caves in SOUTHERN China, over a thousand miles from the Wuhan lab that collected them, kept them in cages next to humanized mice, and leaked the virus (probably when they were moving, reportedly, when an infected mouse or bat escaped.) On the other hand, have you considered what will happen to you someday if you are unlucky enough to be a good organ tissue match for some CCP leader? If you are a tissue match, you will be disappeared, murdered, have your organs harvested so some CCP gangster can live longer, and the rest of your body will be disposed of as trash in some unmarked grave. You, Chinese Communist Party 50 cent army shills, better watch out, because to your evil, CCP gangster leaders, you are just like fat pigs or cattle. (To keep their Wuhan virus secret, they let thousands of Chinese get infected and die in banquets and trains during your New Year.) The “glorious,” evil leaders that you worship are getting old and will need more and more organ transplants to stay alive. If YOU or your wife or your children or your brothers or sisters are a tissue match for the evil Poo, Xi (Winnie’s evil, morbidly obese, ugly, CCP aunt, who looks like she survived being hit by a cement truck), your family will be disappeared, killed before or as your organs are harvested out of your body by CCP doctors to repair your CCP tyrants’ alcoholic livers, fatty hearts, or other organs. The CCP leaders will then live longer thanks to your "contributions." Can you be sure that some of your friends or family members somewhere in China have not already been murdered for their organs by some CCP leader? Hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, young women, and men have “disappeared” in the last few years, according even to CCP reports, if they have not yet censored them! At the same time in dozens of Chinese hospitals, for tens of thousands of dollars, foreigners like Sheiks, or millionaires or powerful politicians (and their young children)are being offered and sold organs tissue matched to them, including children’s organs (which tissue matches are very, very, very hard do, because only one in a thousand or fewer persons is a tissue match for the other.) Coincidence? Think about it: could the hundreds of thousands of young Chinese children, women, and men have been murdered by the CCP (or their allies in the Triads) to make billions or trillions of dollars in profits by selling the foreigners their organs? Remember that you are enabling the murders that the CCP has perpetrated, so you are equally responsible for them: e.g., the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the genocides of Falun Gong or Uighurs or Tibetans, the murder of people for their organs, etc. Your BS, e.g., in youtube, enabled them to retain power and perpetrate more slaughters of innocents like the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the current, ongoing release of a virus to kill millions by keeping international borders open for months after they knew the virus was highly infectious and deadly. Thus, congratulate yourself on enabling your own, future murder or the future murders of your friends or relatives, who are tissue matches for some CCP gangster or rich foreigner if you are not! Imagine instead if there was a rebellion and the PLA generals executed or the Chinese people poisoned all the murderous, evil parasites: your CCP gangster leaders. What would China be like without corrupt, evil, CCP parasites ruling it? It could become as wealthy and beautiful as Taiwan is now, with no innocents from any group or minority ever being murdered or imprisoned, which is why the CCP gangsters want to invade and destroy it. Since by enabling them, you are also guilty of the CCP leaders' murders, are you a sociopath or psychopath? Have you no conscience or shame? Jack the Ripper or Charles Manson or even Pol Pot never caused as many deaths as your CCP leaders have caused: e.g., Xi and Mao. PS: Tens of thousands of innocent, young, Chinese people and students were murdered by the CCP during the Tiananmen Square massacre. Mao killed millions by starving them to death during his “cultural revolution” to make false claims of agricultural successes. Your old, evil, CCP gangster leaders stay healthy by murdering young Uighurs, Chinese Hong Kong students, dissidents, Falun Gong members, and others for their organs. They profit by selling the organs of young Chinese innocents whom they murder. A certain virus almost certainly escaped from the inept, corrupt CCP or they would not have acted for months like murderers trying to destroy all evidence and silence and kill all witnesses. Also, before the lockdowns, when it was discovered in 2019, it was still allowed to infect and kill tens of thousands of innocent Chinese travelers weeks later during your Chinese New Year in 2020 to keep it secret from the world. “Coincidentally” the CCP then kept international borders open and encouraged innocent Chinese persons infected with the virus to go out and infect the rest of the world with this virus, which now has returned in a different variant and is killing so many Chinese in 2022. The CCP has long since lost the mandate of heaven! The evil CCP gangsters' guilt is shown by their own actions. The Three Gorges Dam will burst sooner or later due to the CCP’s corruption causing it to be built shoddily and with bad materials which will kill tens of millions. Those killed will be more CCP victims. Now you know these facts that they do not want you to know. Go to another web page. If you are even caught reading or repeating them, the CCP may disappear you and harvest your organs too. Also, your savings in Chinese companies are worthless because their CCP-gangster managers have more accounting scams than Enron like Luckin Coffee’s or Kingold Jewelry’s apparent frauds, and your overbuilt, over-valued, decaying, real estate holdings will become worthless, like Evergrande’s real estate is largely worthless already now, once China hits its demographic cliff. Enjoy being a CCP member now and have a good sleep. You better hope that hell does not exist, because if you enabled these murders by the CCP, I suspect that is where you are going, LOL. Geniuses, I sure hope that along with coal, your CCP also boycotts Australian iron ore, then the CCP will fall even quicker as its industries grind down. Its cities are already getting blackouts due to its boycotting Australian coal. LOL. Your industries are failing, because the greedy CCP developed vaccines to make profits, which did not really work, so that is why tens of thousands of Chinese have been dying: because they were given bad vaccines created by the CCP to get money, which vaccines do not even actually work. One last thing, your passenger jet just dove to the ground because the CCP crooks have been trying to save money by not doing proper maintenance on it, since they lost so much money on Evergrande, the Chinese stock market, Fantasia, etc. Alternatively, the corruption in your system caused a good pilot to be demoted in favor of a CCP crony, so he dived that plane into the ground. The CCP will make sure we never find out the truth. However, that is a fact that they will bury and never let you discover, until they lose power and cannot prevent its disclosure.

[@KayyHong]

In China, the leader is chosen by experienced and wise men. In America, the leader is selected by the Rich Elite and elected by a naive and easily manipulated populace.

[@mim8312]

@@KayyHong Nonsense. The second, most corrupt gang in the world, the CCP crooks, who are very rich (albeit not as rich as the corrupt, US banksters and financer parasites) have stolen an estimated $3.5 TRILLION from Chinese people just in the last few years are neither wise nor experienced, except as criminal gangsters. That is why they elected the Pooh as their incompetent, stupid leader. China's economy is about to collapse because it will lose its economic multiplier effects when its real estate sector collapses due to the CCP crook's Ponzi scheme with Chinese victims' money, more and more. Second, US and EU companies are moving out of China to Southeast Asia, the US, Mexico, or other, less troublesome countries where criminals are not in charge. China is going down as foreign investors realize that their funds will be stolen and confiscated by the CCP when it invades Taiwan and China is sanctioned like the CCP stole its own citizens' savings, which caused it now to intimidate them with tanks in Henan, so the protesters do not hang the CCP crooks.