The USMNT January Camp is a WASTE of time

[@dustinperez8248]

The CUPCAKE Camp should be U23 Camp friendly (Button)

[@MrZen08]

I could see that if we're 2 or 3 years away from a WC, but this time with a new, foreign coach one year away (and hosting, no less): don't waste a camp, and bring in the best available. Any one (or more) of our Euro players could have a season-ending injury and we'd have to replace with whomever is best *now*, not expected-to-be-three-years-from-now. And Poch needs to be familiar with these guys. And really, any U23 player should earn the call-up. We had a unique situation going from a Lost Generation immediately to a Golden Generation, so we replaced the team wholesale. But we're now finding out some aren't quite as golden as we thought. Altidore was banished while Sargent was anointed. Sargent's career trajectory now is looking similar to Jozy's. I realize Altidore was becoming injury-prone at that time, but it's the off-the-top-of-my-head example. If we anoint U23s before they are actually better than their elders - does it really help them develop, or does it artificially inflate their ego?

[@IsaacHenryinAK]

Clicked with the caveat that Tim Ream still deserves a call up for what he brings to any USMNT locker room, especially because our options after McKenzie, Richards, and Trusty fall off a cliff, but also his leadership.

[@johelectrix7927]

Or U-20 and U-22 and a little bit of effective B team players

[@mackdeen7021]

I Would rather have those players continue with their clubs. But I get it…this is a waste of roster talent. I’d rather see our younger Euro developmental players and potential under 20 in MLs etc. but taking our best talent off their European clubs for these friendlies is counter productive too.

[@The_Makr_]

How bout let Poch coach the team however he wants.

[@samplingmastersxlr8660]

Exactly, trust our manager

[@alexandermantooth185]

​@@samplingmastersxlr8660If Tac and Pete can't complain, then they'll have nothing to talk about. They have to manufacture outrage. They can't kick Gregg anymore so they'll focus on January camp and MLS players.

[@docquanta6869]

Pouch doesn't get to choose to host the Jan camp. USSF does. It promotes MLS and makes USSF a bit of money.

[@IsaacHenryinAK]

I'm fine with that. But we don't know if he wants Camp Cupcake or not.

[@alexandermantooth185]

@@docquanta6869 Which are two positives

[@tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825]

Only bad thing about this is that it gives us a loss against these countries in the record book

[@Breno775]

Good idea for the camp to happen. Get a mix of young and mature players. Mature to help bring up the young and the young, to get a close up view at their game.

[@jetman022]

From purely a fan perspective, I ask myself "Would I rather have something to watch or have nothing to watch?" Gives me a chance to watch the Stars and Stripes, even though it's not our A, B, or even C team really. Gives these young MLSers a chance to make it the legit team. And gives me something to watch and cheer for.

[@Chicagofellow15]

Exactly. The people that hate camp cupcake should just not watch it. It's not that serious. Gives a chance for young players to be seen.

[@citizenstranger]

tbh my interest in january camp is similar to my interest in yanks abroad in that i tend to follow individual players. this one, im only interested in the progress of jalen neal, diego luna, jack mcglynn and brian gutierrez. guys like shaq moore or jesus or even miles, i am actually frustrated to see.

[@Brendan_Are]

Steffen's 3rd consecutive call up, and other(s) were not just friendlies. I want to see him between the pipes, YES, A LOT GA FOR CO., BUT... he was left on an island for a good atleast 1/2 of those. Why do you think CO. brought I'm Reggie Cannon and bought 2 more CBs on the offseason ALL after selling Moise Bombito.? Give the veteran man a chance in a friendly for FU(× sake!

[@re1v3r]

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[@bryseisme2]

Every USMNT camp should be progress towards the end goal of winning the world cup someday. The current Jan Camp does not do that, so the best you can get out of it is testing the young players. Like how we saw Esmir stand out.

[@samplingmastersxlr8660]

No camp does that

[@johnnysingtree]

january camp did benefit the bosnian national team though.

[@alexandermantooth185]

It's still a chance to put in work when none of the other major countries are working. Even if it's just with our depth. Plus it makes a little money for USSF which can be used on development. There's really no reason to cancel it unless you just hate MLS.

[@MikeinBrazil617]

Thats just a requirement you made up lol

[@bryseisme2]

@@MikeinBrazil617 So the national team shouldn't do what they can to try to win the World Cup? That is certainly a take.

[@cubonemaker5080]

Diego Luna needs to show up

[@Brendan_Are]

Tim Ream will NOT PLAY WORLD CUP- I would put $ on Steffen making it and Ream not.

[@jasonpeters6600]

Absolutely not Tac…. Poch needs to see them up close. Also, Poch may be able to get some of them yo Europe with his connections. Great opportunity for these kids..

[@450steeler]

I feel that the u20s would beat this senior team.

[@Yummslovich]

Tac, enough of the bad mojo about the January camp. Let it happen and enjoy. I am glad to see Luna finally got called in and no more cupcakes unless they have cream cheese icing on them. 😊.

[@Brendan_Are]

Poch can't control TV contracts that USSF make. It's about $ for the federation, so WHY NOT take and learn what we can from them. After all- it's Poch.!

[@mcswiiiifty]

Diego Luna the only player im looking forward to watching

[@JonathanGarcia-pi7pf]

What I always wonder is how many MLS Players will be in the 2018 WC Roster if we qualified? It’ll definitely be more than 10 which means we were so down bad

[@LaddOnFire]

Big Pat Agyemang is going to surprise you. He’s the most physical forward we have. Going to have a chance because he’ll offer a much different look. Wait till he walks out the first time and everyone’s jaw drops at how big he is

[@DJRatz-wz3kf]

I like it because I don't watch much MLS and it gives me a chance to see players I don't normally watch. I like the U-23 idea. Did Quinn Sulivan not get released? I rather see Chris Brady too and I haven't given up on Brandan Craig.

[@richardfarrington1504]

Needs to be u23. No more Shaq Moore, Walker, Miles, ect.

[@ashen_BA-Pillman]

I don’t mind Zimmerman

[@kenyontwing1027]

Regardless of if I like it or not, the answer is no. Especially this time with Poch only having 18 months until WC 26. He needs EVERY opportunity to get a good look at all talent available, yes, even from MLS and yes, even past players. They can perform better or differently under a competent manager like Poch than under GGG. We get 1-2 weeks of training, not like 3-4 days before matches so Poch really gets a good look at these players.

[@SanFranFan30]

It should be rebranded to Olympic Camp and become a U23 +3 camp (and the +3 have to have zero USMNT experience)

[@alexandermantooth185]

Why? We already have a U-23 camp this January?

[@SanFranFan30]

@@alexandermantooth185 We have a U20 camp and a U19 camp. Not U23, because the U23 age group isn't used in any FIFA or CONCACAF tournament. The U23 age group is exclusively for the Olympics and technically doesn't really exist when not in an Olympic cycle. The Reason for turning this camp into a U23 tournament is to showcase young American talent who are getting MLS and USL playing time who have potential to either get a bigger move to Europe or to hopefully for them make the actual USMNT senior team.

[@alexandermantooth185]

@SanFranFan30 Isn't that what this camp is plus a few veterans? I guess I don't have a problem making it U-23, but getting rid of it all together doesn't really accomplish anything. And I think there's something to be said for having local players play for the NT every now and then. I know I'll tune in just to see Jones, Arfsten, and Schulte.

[@rblancarte]

Well I gotta say that I don't think 3:15 has aged very well. Amazing what good coaching will get from these camps.

[@MikeinBrazil617]

I enjoy the camp. Esmir was introduced to a lot of fans last year. (even tho is didnt work out)

[@jimbear4979]

The camp makes sense because we are a nation of 330+ million and there are players who might be overlooked or could develop.That said, I totally agree the focus should be on bringing in younger than U23 players unless you need to fill some roster spots.

[@IsaacHenryinAK]

Tac, you're generally correct. You do, though, TBF, make the case FOR camp cupcake in this piece. It doesn't have a lot of value, but it does have some value. I agree about bringing in younger players, but also bringing in someone like Tim Ream, with his level of experience over many years in Europe/EPL, could have a positive effect on our younger MLS player's development. That sort of thing also makes the camp worthwhile and is a reason to bring in older players who are in decline, but still playing. How often do 16-18 year old players in the MLS get to chat/practice/ask questions of EPL (former or current) players? Especially as a team mate...

[@pronational02]

1. Because it occurs in January it will always be a MLS heavy roster going forward. That is due to more and more US players actively playing abroad. 2. So it just deserves a different focus than what it use to. a. For Pochetino it is where he can test and practice his training and coaching for a tournament schedule. This is a good thing. b. It allows Pochetino to view future prospects and potential backups to the A team when a demand arises. Right now the GK situation is competitive and not in stone. Future injuries or bad form always requires a first and second backup. c. Fringe or future international players begin to learn the mentality, system and demands. Can they apply it to their club seasons and climb toward the A team roster? d. Potential opportunity for players not starting or being rostered on their European clubs. e. It is a bridge from u23 and lower to work directly with the head coach and staff. f. Jimmy Conrad used it and made the best of it to break into the A team and into a World Cup roster. g. There are players on this roster worth testing and for Pochetino to get first hand experience to see if they can rise to the challenge. h. Needs a different nickname. "Camp Cupcake" Does it no favors. i. Is there another camp opportunity we are sacrificing over this one? No. So take what you can get and make the best of it.

[@merycastro2608]

Camp in January is very good for those I. The outside looking in

[@RandomStuff0303]

This roster is fine. Handful of guys Poch likely wants time with. Mcglynn comes to mind as someone heading to Europe that may need influence from the usmnt.

[@psu2dcu]

The camp should be retained. However, it should be focused for the time being more towards younger players to evaluate their potential. It not only provides a insight into players progress but will give the USMNT the opportunity to give feedback on how they need to improve and what kinds of opportunities they could expect at a higher level league. I agree that having more than a few older MLS players is a waste of the camp's utility. Over time however, as MLS becomes stronger there will be a time where better US players will be playing in MLS so the value of the camp will start to increase. I think we are at a low point in the balance between European players and MLS but at some point I could see that starting to change post 27.

[@Markie54]

Quick question do guys ever heard of Olof mellberg if so what’s your opinion about him and do you think think he is a good coach

[@anlerden4851]

Let's Go My Beautiful USA!!!🥰😍🤗❤🤍💙💯

[@tacticalmanagerbabymommaak5825]

Hey tac, how is Pete doing?

[@IsaacHenryinAK]

Pete is on fraud watch.

[@davidvandruff9368]

So I totally agree with you on Camp Cupcake. But damn if it doesn't make me feel bad for these players. Kinda sucks!

[@Brandon-qd2lb]

How many countries use the January window even?

[@Jeff-C-Dallas-Texas]

We just need a rebranding…. Camp Young and the Restless ?

[@Kbandz313]

Camp Cupcake should be a U23 or U20 squad of MLS and USL prospects. Then add in other young players from Europe, Mexico or South America.

[@samuelcutts2589]

I do not think it should be a U23 camp on the two years prior to the World Cup. You may find a crafty veteran and need to have some familiarity with the national team set-up. And not sure why you are bothered by Jesus scoring 3 goals against a lesser opponent. That’s what we want to punish teams that are lesser. But having it only U23 completely kills late developing players or getting looks at positions of need. Our CB situation and back up fullback situation is not settled. There are roster spots available.

[@merycastro2608]

Tactical. I love you man ! But stop being narrow minded

[@dashiellchang]

I was thinking Poch called in Matko Miljevic because he is Argentinean

[@nickvincent8760]

Chris Richards should go play for Dortmund. They have awful defending. He could legit be a solid starter for them

[@raulbarron5250]

I think none of you actually know what camps at this level are for do you?

[@Casey-cw4hh]

How is the hell does a person hate cupcakes..

[@dgrizz5028]

Love the OCSC jacket ❤️⚽️

[@jdubb45]

Bruh... so Camp Cupcake is essentially... a fundraiser??

[@IsaacHenryinAK]

Tac, still do a 7 things we learned episode about Camp Cupcake please. Thanks.

[@noelrodriguez681]

Thin at LB ? Isn't Weston a LB.

[@Johnnybgood76]

So basically do exactly what they've been doing. Got it.

[@misaelthedrummer69]

Difficult to be excited for this camp

[@mikal024]

Jan camp should be a facility to find promising young players for the nt.

[@lucyvalor7146]

This video didn’t age well

[@mostbased]

1:00 unsubscribed!

[@re1v3r]

How can you take someone seriously anymore with a comment like that??? 😂 @Tactical Cupcake 🧁 Manager ??

[@oyaml1211]

Let's cut the funding of USSF so we can complain later that we can't hire a foreign coach cause USSF doesn’t have money

[@GreedyGrom]

Dude, can you PLEASE stop that subtle movement of your slides/pics/clips? It gives me motion sickness. Seriously.

[@noting7678]

U23 roster only..

[@arturoherrera1386]

Yo, that image of Cream Cheese Conrad at kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH2ZoXaomb-BgqMsi=hnzoW0ggliknEPmH&t=136 made me laugh more than I expected it to

[@chinafriends]

U.S Soccer needs to make January Camp Great Again

[@VoirDire369]

We need Brooklin Raines

[@pronational02]

Is there a background of white noise during this video that resembles constant wind chimes? Tac if you are producing this it is annoying AF.

[@dwallis01]

More like camp cookie bc these players will do nothing but crumble

[@classicofutbol]

😮

[@thejackofalltrades5171]

Must end? Bro you never know who can stand out and get in the books. Typical. Always looking at the negatives. All the damn time. These are all MLS players usually. Let them get some fitness in, get motivated knowing they’re being looked at. What if Poch tells one of his homies back home this kids got something and he takes him to Europe while you’re over here still making videos in your basement.

[@TacticalManager]

You didn’t watch the video did you?

[@thejackofalltrades5171]

⁠@@TacticalManagerif I remember correctly, you stated it should end BUT, since we can’t (for reasons you mentioned with the TV slots). Jurgen suggested it etc. My point is, believe it or not, perception matters. Imagine being a player and you get called up only to hear everyone tell you this camp doesn’t matter. That its more obligatory than anything else. Diminishes the call up. I apologize for the basement comment but I suppose it’s right in line with what I am ranting about (obviously it matters what you say or else I wouldn’t have watched your video or Herc wouldn’t come on it right). Look, in my opinions these players really have an uphill battle. Constantly hearing MLS is a joke league, inferior, retirement, etc. Some might even start late in the game (college draft which is also painted as such a negative thing). The academies “suck” (for those who came through it). If they make it to Europe, having to break through that stigma (I suggest watching Pulisic documentary and what he says/feels about that). If we don’t hype each other up, or our players, who will? Now I am not saying give participation trophies either. I’d use you as an example. “Hey man, great job starting this podcast, keeping it going!! Providing us with great USMNT and MLS content since it’s so limited right now. It’s getting better and better!” Unlike “Damn I guess I’ll watch this guy in his living room since there isn’t anything else out there. Might as well make the best of it even though it should probably be ESPN.” Words matter and how we present things matter. The pictures, the titles on content etc. (I don’t think Jesus would be thrilled about being next to a cupcake). Let’s speak life to each other brotha! Myself included! So again, apologies for going off and offending you right from the get go.

[@TacticalManager]

I only have 1 strong opinion on it, it’s that I should become a U-22 camp with a very few overage players. About ending it, I mainly said that if they did I’d not oppose it.

[@derekkatz2875]

Jimmy Conrad is just trying to get some clicks

[@ajibolavincent5496]

Isn't that the point of broadcasting?

[@Chicagofellow15]

not at all, he's rightfully upset at the people who are saying the Camp should be eliminated entirely.

[@anlerden4851]

I love Christian Pulisic, Walker Zimmerman and My Beautiful USA Men Team so much and more than myself.🥰😍🤗❤🤍💙💯

[@anlerden4851]

Good Luck Our Beautiful USA Dear Filippo. I have seen great progressive things inside of the team and Dear Poch.🥰😍🤗❤🤍💙💯