The UTC Iceberg Explained

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A chart that sorts facts/theories from a piece of media by obscurity, usually the most commonly known subjects near the "tip of the iceberg", and the lesser known subjects being near "the abyss". The images used to separate the categories often get more ominous and disturbing the deeper the chart gets.
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[@LEXMEN709]

1:23 The Mediafire link was mine💀. I didn't like that someone randomly put the link right on a video from the official N3V Games channel. Anyway, I realized it TOO LATE

[@griffinrails]

💀💀💀

[@thatoneguythatlikesship]

damn i also have the link ☠

[@bradleysreview1381]

@@thatoneguythatlikesship gimme pls

[@Univer3eTwist3ers]

Regarding the EUROPEAN map thing at around 30:00, I feel like those were just added for whoever was monkeying around in the Surveyor if they wanted to make a European styled map. Another red herring is that, while most assets are categorized by country, EUROPE is a continent rather than a country. Downloading mods just wasnt possible for some people back then. Nice video btw, very nostalgic too because I haven't played that dumb game in over a decade

[@chicagolandrailroader]

Hearing a Aussie guy say "F7 hotrod" doesn't sit right 😂 I appreciate the generic horns each time the layer changes. So much nostalgia

[@Local_NPC403]

I ABSOLUTELY HATE HOW ALMOST NO ONE KNOWS THIS GAME! Trainz is simple, good, awsome surveyor and more! it dosent get the attention it deverves.

[@harrisongrant8558]

I think Trainz is actually more popular than it was even just 5 years ago. Of course it's not as popular as other titles, even from indie devs. Trainz has a small, aging, but dedicated and mostly helpful community, and it's the reason why I've stuck with it for so long. If it weren't for the community, the over-decade long catalog of free content (some of it completely customizable and on-par with even payware stuff), and the creative freedom that the game allows, I don't think I would have stuck around this long.

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

Ik this game

[@CornerFieldHobbyRailfan]

I still have Trainz UTC 2002. I bought it when I was kid and still play it today. For me it's still my all time favorite Trainz. I love how simple it was to make a railroad. Also I thought it is so awesome to just set up a railroad and when setting it to auto mode of the trains they just move along the tracks without assigning anything to them like the 2004, 06, and so on versions. But this is my opinion. But my vote goes to Trainz UTC as my favorite Trainz game.

[@jordandorsett3106]

I remember this game 🎮 and it was beautiful

[@kadenrobinson7067]

Honestly the community is actually kinda toxic

[@tehangrybird345]

Some of these seem so strange, I’ve been playing Trainz for quite awhile and I still haven’t known or thought about a ton of these things, the dry city and country USA seems like a really weird one

[@Jotrain]

Thanks for making this video really found it informative/entertaining! I've never personally played Trainz myself but I have a lot of admiration for it since It was made in Queensland, Australia being my home state and is one of the only train games I know with Queensland Rail content without modding. I hope you get more views, this was a great iceberg!

[@PivotBoi.]

0:55 actually demos have been common for new trainz since 2000 - 2006 or 9 i think

[@TheGs4_4449]

Ngl I love this video and fr some reason I rewatch it Edit: Theory, but you know the guy who uploaded several “missing” locomotive files, such as the German 103 and all of those German switchers? What if he has access/used to have access to the files for those missing GP 38-2s, the “missing” SD 40-2s (that were put on the MSTS Regional Pack), and that missing Rock Island Geep?

[@kadenrobinson7067]

27:54 I've been to that website before I use the website to help me find missing dependencies

[@griffinrails]

same

[@commenter1335]

@@griffinrails reason of blur?

[@griffinrails]

@@commenter1335 many illegally hosted assets are on the site, and I don’t want any beef with asset creators that want them off the site.

[@SlavaArduino123]

Name of the site is Trainzland bruh.

[@SlavaArduino123]

@Southern Pacific Alpha 4456 Cuz its normal site

[@MaestranzaConcepcion]

Nice Iceberg!!! I bought MSTS Regional Pack a month ago, when it arrives I will share it for free on my website. P.D.: Include DD40X for August 2022

[@Local_NPC403]

Im downloading now, thank you so much! I also like to search for old trainz assets

[@AustralianRailwayVideos]

Thanks for this iceberg video, it looks like there is no particularly scary side of trainz 👻 just a couple of weird things… awesome video!

[@Mr.OliverTrain]

about the unreleased gp units the BN gp38-2 was in trainz 2009 although thats the only version with it and about why the other units werent released probably cuz auran made them only for msts or after trainz was finished

[@kyledill4715]

I think the CSX one is on the DLS

[@MaestranzaConcepcion]

The GP38-2 BN is under Kuid of HP-Trainz, a simple detail it's the animated fan

[@Local_NPC403]

The unreleased gp38_2 units are all present in the trainz content creator art source pack

[@cozmolikeytrainz]

I’d love to make a reskin of the high hood

[@qtrainprod]

Some of these are in Trainz Driver 2

[@anindrapratama]

as an old trainz player, this is a neat video. To me the old default assets have their own charm. The game doesn’t feel the same after TS12 for me

[@AryaBagasSaputra]

You missed something, there is an asset in the form of a house which if we approach, it will make a moaning sound, it's in the Android version of Trainz Simulator, it's on the City and Country USA route I think

[@griffinrails]

yeah i found the sound file of that a couple months ago but couldn't find where it was from, do you know the KUID of the asset?

[@southernsteamproductions7745]

3:51 Hey that looks a lot like my video!

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

“I mean, just look at this: SD40 HORN JUMPSCARE”

[@PhoenX279]

what is the music that's used in this video?

[@JOEMAMA_534]

You should definitely make TRS2004/06 iceberg videos

[@griffinrails]

The TRS2004 Iceberg will release this halloween :)

[@finnbair3759]

​@@griffinrails I don't see the trs2004/06 iceberg video.

[@JOEMAMA_534]

@@griffinrails What ever happened to that?

[@sydneyrailschannel9280]

Merry Christmas Griffin

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

It is now by this point I want to know where you found the images from 14:33 to 14:49. Can you show me when you find them again?

[@griffinrails]

I just took them from the in-game files.

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

@@griffinrails I could probably do with looking at the things as well.

[@wowinyou]

The Videos at 21:00 are actually found on v.1.1.1.1 Disks of the Game

[@wodekw6862]

I guess they wanted to make Europe map literally, like little Europe but with all the countries ect. But they figure out nothing would handle even smaller version of the map so they scrapped it

[@TrainGodismoreactivehere]

also the msts regional add-on pack was found btw: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6HPZZhse5ikrqs

[@hiawathan9392]

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE SONG FROM 0:06-0:15. SOMEONE PLAESE TELL ME!

[@MatiEP09]

and that's all there is to it!

[@MrTankThatStopped]

Bring back the derail system

[@SuperPwnageHunter]

31:48 *WHAT WAS THE EUROPE ROUTE?!?!?*

[@KirbyONeilDJSpeed]

How do you get to stop trains on auto pilot at stations wile driving your train??? Good Game

[@josef7525]

Map Men in the description!

[@thenswtrainspotter]

merry chiristmas all :)

[@e195087]

Good video. 👍

[@OllieWasHere]

This is gonna be intense

[@NickelPlateMxne]

2:55 lmao

[@AfterPartyGoer]

You forgot bill vu

[@griffinrails]

that ain't UTC he uses trainz 2006

[@AfterPartyGoer]

@@griffinrails whoops! Maybe if you make a reskins iceberg you could do him!

[@oregonrailfan7046]

You said kanawah wrong it’s pronounced ken-oh-wa

[@OllieWasHere]

pronunciation nazi

[@griffinrails]

you can't even spell kanawha right

[@spiralhillrailfan3768]

@@griffinrails gotem

[@Arturobrito0502]

Streaaaaaaam

[@TankEngineProductions]

33:38 I think this person is referring to a rainbow that would occasionally appear in the skybox. I’ve seen it pop up about twice.

[@benmagnus0858]

I used to be a train fan as a kid and my father bought me this game. It was TRS 2007. I still have it to this day and sometimes I even play it, because it's so nostalgic and calming.

[@benmagnus0858]

And I would actually play the new game if it was free, but it's not that important to me

[@srking783]

@@benmagnus0858 trs2007? doesn't that have many european routes and is an updated version of trs2006? could you send me some screenshots of the game (post links in this section) when you have the chance?

[@benmagnus0858]

@@srking783 yes I could do that I just need some time

[@srking783]

@@benmagnus0858 that's fine, take as much time as you need

[@Razer_-fe9mo]

Same here but it was TRS2006. I recently started playing it again!

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

When you said that the ATSF F7 had the SD40 sounds in the control trailer, that reminds me of the CN F7 that was added to Trainz Driver 2 which ironically also uses the sound effects.

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

(Actually, I mean CP.)

[@qtrainprod]

14:05 I have the Seaboard, BN, and CN ones on Trainz Driver 2

[@nottelling8129]

Why would they make the derailments LESS realistic!? You can’t even multi-track drift anymore!

[@Local_NPC403]

It would be hugely resource intensive and would cause alot of lag

[@thatonecaledonian812]

go to 29:11 to watch griffin have a mental breakdown about a funni modle ralway train gaem

[@Local_NPC403]

Explaining most of the missing trains: The auran dash 9, the missing gp units and the ones present in the msts pack, the class 2001 blue, the class 52, blue and red, and some more missing trains such as the sw7 chessie, the budds, some fpa4's and fa2's and some unreleased buildings are all present in the "Auran content creator art source pack" wich was sold at the same time as trainz 2004 and had alot of auran made content in form of .gmax files for content creators to create content. there is tons of other trains and assets in that pack that i havent mentioned (also yes i do have it)

[@PivotBoi.]

14:31 detlev20 is one of the devs at AURAN

[@harrisongrant8558]

I wasn't aware they removed the terrain randomizer feature in newer versions of Trainz- it's a shame, because it's one of my favorite features in T:ANE and in Trainz 2009. I'm glad you brought attention to just how weird the early days of Trainz were though. Also the NS Mat '54 "Hondekop" is available on the DLS, from Auran themselves no less. I don't know if it was added later or something, but it does exist.

[@thet00nedl00n]

The Hondekop was included in TRS2004 onwards.

[@TankEngine75]

If Griffin Rails had a time machine, he will ask Auran to make an Europe Route

[@TheComengSset]

31:46, Grffin rails goes mad trying to find out about a game about trains and some track heheh

[@KibuFox]

Correction: 9:34 "Gmax" did not become 3Ds Max. 3Ds Max was always around, and predated Gmax by quite some time. Gmax was not created for Trainz either, but actually started with Microsoft Train Simulator. Autodesk made this free version for a couple reasons, but primarily because they were seeing a large number of people getting the 'demo' version of the software.

[@PivotBoi.]

29:28 untill Trainz Driver when they used it for the "Amazing Race" minigame , the track greesy one

[@MarioYoshi4723]

I’m surprised the passenger newspapers weren’t on this iceberg, some outright told you commands for cheats, like ALT+Y for the ground movement, my favorite has to be the article “SCIENTISTS GROW ROCKET COW” (yes it actually says that). I thought it was just a joke for the longest time but thanks to this I learned the Rocket Cow is an actual thing in Trainz lol If you wanna see them for yourself the easiest way is with the HP Trainz Superliners.

[@griffinrails]

Didn't even know about them until now! Thanks for the info.

[@maxhemenway]

27:19

[@squeaksfor2514]

7:04 is it possible to release a tutorial on how you image tweak to get the files right, the jointed rail gs4 has the same problems and I'm interested in restoring its tga files. Thank you, Squeaksfor2

[@Inerturn]

I wonder why they removed realistic crashes

[@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory]

26:33 I KNEW IT I KNEW THAT STATION LOOKED FAMILIAR I THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY

[@commenter1335]

And thats all there is to it!

[@commenter1335]

There is a europe route in trainz 3 and i’m sure it uses the RO catenary Edit: after a year and a few days i found the pirate site

[@kaffe4106]

Creepy moment 16:03

[@vik8218]

1:18 I didn’t understand this entry a lot, so the game’s files got leaked? Can you install content on it? And could you send me a link? Loved the video by the way, keep it up.

[@griffinrails]

They did get leaked, I'm not sure if you could install content on it or not. The video AFAIK has been unlisted and I don't have the URL

[@vik8218]

@@griffinrails Darn it... well thanks nonetheless!

[@nikolaigarfield2866]

Didn't understand one thing: all of mentioned additional locos are unavailable to get, or some of them (especially Hotrod F7 and Crocodil) are possible to get nowadays (for UTC, not for modern versions)?

[@SlavaArduino123]

Здарова. Я тоже на них охочусь...

[@SlavaArduino123]

Здарова косячник, нашел их)))

[@kyledill4715]

11:53 where can I find that loco

[@MaestranzaConcepcion]

DLS (?)

[@N00N01]

The bm weather vid of a deltic express seem to be an early version as it only has a single track on the doubletrackbpart, and statiok 1 at the junction is missing

[@griffinrails]

Actually it was like that all the way until the mobile releases, it was rebuilt 3 times for the mobile games.

[@N00N01]

Interesting

[@ScotrailProductions1819]

@@griffinrails hey dude hopefully you do a Trainz 2004 iceberg video because I also mentioned in the comments of this video that there’s a lost Trainz 2004 Trailer and I also remember a few things from the trailer which I’ll mention a few things of the trailer in one of the scenes of that trailer it shows the LNER A4 Mallard pulling Australian coaches which are the V-line coaches I forgot the name of those coaches

[@JOEMAMA_534]

0:19

[@joelpackett7582]

9000HP STILL NEEDDSSS MOAR THE ENGINE *ITS SUPERCHARGED*

[@AmuhPLT]

5:40 Thanks for putting a part of my trainz Android video 😮

[@ObsessedwithTrains]

this is so good

[@Nohab52offical]

27:52 what website is that? Why you censored it?

[@pennsy6755]

just found out what it is, tl;dr it's the most ruski thing Ive seen in a long time. they really are living the pirate life

[@jonathanpan6110]

Found the Europe route. It was supposed to reuse assets from all routes in the beta stage, with the majority of the route taken from City and Country Usa, but using British Midlands textures, as49 tracks and pl ballasts, the yard would take design from Outback Australia, and the stations would've been added too, St. Anton next to the tunnels near the steelworks branch, and Trisen located on the mountain at the loop. The mountain would also be painted with Winter in the Alps textures, and the line up the mountain would've been electrified with the Romanian cantenary lines from the mountain station to the Terminus. And as a nice finishing touch, all the US signals would be replaced with the Polish ones. Currently making this route in trainz driver 2.

[@griffinrails]

Awesome! Tell me when it's finished please, I'd love to check it out.

[@Local_NPC403]

I would too love to check it out!

[@NBRailfan]

We need to ask Greg lane about the Europe route

[@railfanmaximstill7279]

20:45 I probably could have made it work

[@maxhemenway]

6:06

[@arandomtrainchannel250]

Sick video

[@commenter1335]

The auran dash 9 is in trainz simulator 2. You can get it in the BNSF megapack or individually.

[@Jeisr4207-bc5ui]

That is NOT the Auran dash 9, my friend, it is one of NorfolkSouthern37’s older models

[@commenter1335]

@@Jeisr4207-bc5ui oh

[@Drif19]

16:54 This goofy ahh boi is in trainz simulator 3 also! But now he is in the woods in the middle of the florest.

[@JulianTrainKidProductions]

I am so happy this video exists.

[@trainity7330]

Lots of interesting stuff in this game.

[@officialmcdave]

The Station Bench is most likely Hungarian. MAV is used similar in branch lines however they were red or brown most of the time.

[@thet00nedl00n]

Some of this might have to be updated, I’m pretty sure there was a Big Boy model made for UTC, there’s a low quality photo of it.

[@griffinrails]

guh? please tell me more

[@Revolverben190]

Realistic derailments need to come back

[@Specific_XPT]

Nod?

[@nathanw7114]

Classification of open wagon used by NSWSRA.

[@Admre]

The trainz series is so popular yet so obscure

[@CFRTrainSpotter]

I have MSTS (but i havent ran it in ages), and i want to know where can these Auran-made assets?

[@griffinrails]

I'm really not too sure. Some people have been able to get some copies, but I'm not sure where they got it from. Good luck is all I can say.

[@EerierFish16]

Someone uploaded it (it was found) I could provide a link but since KZbin stuff I can’t

[@CFRTrainSpotter]

@@EerierFish16 i mean thats why i was tryna add you on Discord a few days ago or so, so we could exchange addons and shit like that. mind if i try again? also i think ive seen some of the American addons for download somewhere but i dont remember where, plus the pack is incomplete (some European trains are lacking).

[@EerierFish16]

@@CFRTrainSpotter I’m not just gonna add someone I don’t even know

[@CFRTrainSpotter]

@@EerierFish16 i understand, but i still follow your MSTS videos with great interest regardless. but i wont insist if you dont wanna add me. doesnt help that i go by a different name on Discord than on YT (but im thinking of changing that)

[@JJfan48]

This was my first Trainz game. As a kid I was so confused as to where or how I was suppose to get the announced expansion but so much of it was either wrong or missing. Such a good game though.

[@magdastrzelec6259]

Do history of microsoft train sim

[@griffonboi]

First time I ever heard of your channel from this vid haha Guess we're both Aussie and like griffins and trains

[@riograndelocos9639]

and thats all there is too it!

[@El_Transportacoches_33]

You missed one thing: the background sound of the driver mode.

[@Arturobrito0502]

I think i may have a solution for the hole europe route shebang, maybe someone could try to contact greg lane and ask him about the europe route, it may be risky but i dont see any problem with asking him about everything he knows about this route, and hopefully tells us of more people who now about it and what it could have had and how it could have looked like, but who knows.

[@4unfed]

this is a really interesting & entertaining video. but i have one nit-picky detail - why does most of the music in the later half make me feel scared for my life? i mean, i’m watching it at 1 am, but still. a really good video either way.

[@jordandorsett3106]

Out of all this I like the Customisable Options and the Legendary F7 HOTROD!!

[@bransontheblack5577]

If anyone has the F7 passenger cars, please reply to this comment so i can give you my Discord. I want them.

[@mr.dvd30]

you guys have the link for the f7 hot rod? pls

[@Jeisr4207-bc5ui]

It’s on the DLS if you want it

[@carlosj4363]

THE UTC ICEBERG 0:49 LAYER 1 3:12 LAYER 2 7:17 LAYER 3 9:00 LAYER 4 11:10 LAYER 5 14:06 LAYER 6 17:01 LAYER 7 19:56 LAYER 8 25:42 LAYER 9 31:59 LAYER 10

[@ukaszwalczak1154]

Those benches at 30:21 remind me of benches which are often placed near commie blocks, so that's something.

[@thet00nedl00n]

The unreleased engines are found on a TRS2004 Art Source DVD. A friend showed it to me.

[@Jeisr4207-bc5ui]

Can I see it?

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

The Krokodil asset in the promo image is seen in the intro for 1.3, if you didn’t know. Following that, you didn’t mention the Hondekop, the Renfe 333, the Class 52, or that train that looks like a subway train that appears between the OBB 1044 and the DL500, or any of the other trains not found on the game or DLS that appear in that image. And also, can you show me where this account is that hosted the ones you mentioned?

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

The Krokodil is seen here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZfahHaEm6efjpI

[@Local_NPC403]

The renfe 333 , class 52 and the weird subway is present in the trainz conent creator art source, and i have it

[@kaseyleitchnextgen3281]

You gotta show us, then.@@Local_NPC403

[@jonathanthebigredengine]

6:23 what the music in the background?

[@durandol]

Great video, but could have really used a pop filter. And that's all there is to it.

[@warragulbogan]

Hey have you got any British train wreck documentary’s coming soon

[@benmagnus0858]

Also, why is the ICE in TRS 2007 Diesel powered?

[@riccardointercreate5502]

I was missing iceberg on the Trainz theme beautiful video Merry Christmas Griffin