The Vallaslin and the Dalish Creators {Lore. - No Spoilers}

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Ghil Dirthalen

Ghil Dirthalen

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@naolotica
@naolotica 6 жыл бұрын
My friend (still going on her first playthrough) asked to see my Lavellan Inquisitor, so I sent her a screenshot. Then she asked me 'Oh, you didn't gave her tattoo?' to which I answered (because I didn't want to spoil it to her) 'Oh, I don't want it anymore, so I removed it at Black Emporium' while screaming internally... xD
@ericcloud1023
@ericcloud1023 6 жыл бұрын
Haha oh I hope she romances Solas, so their heart can break as mine did! Lol
@calica4589
@calica4589 5 жыл бұрын
Actually you can make it less visible when you first make your character(I’ve done it before just to see if it was possible) you just gotta mess with the coloring but you gotta put the tattoo on the one where it’s barely there then mess with the coloring ^-^
@callummellis3280
@callummellis3280 4 жыл бұрын
Why would that spoil it?
@wardensoath6204
@wardensoath6204 4 жыл бұрын
@@callummellis3280 Bc in DAI thereis only one way to not have a tattoo anymore and that's by romance Solas
@callummellis3280
@callummellis3280 4 жыл бұрын
@@wardensoath6204 I did't know that, that's cool, but can't you also just not chose one in the first place, pretty sure not having one is an option (though its been awhile tbf lol)
@TheCorrodedMan
@TheCorrodedMan 6 жыл бұрын
“Dragon age elves only have two” Something tells me that come DA4 there will be a third faction,”The Pack” or “Wolves of Fen’heral” or “The Dread Wolf’s pack”
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
Or "The Followers of Fen'heral". Gosh, i need that game to come out now....
@HimeBurrito
@HimeBurrito 5 жыл бұрын
I wish...saw some fan made tattoos for this and they were so cool.. like ..four eyes on their forehead 🤔🙀
@BaverIy
@BaverIy 4 жыл бұрын
@@HimeBurrito but he didn't support tattoos on the face, remember? Hopefully his heart in the 4'th game will be melted by love and he will give up on his plan killing everyone. 😍
@HimeBurrito
@HimeBurrito 4 жыл бұрын
@@BaverIy yeah he doesn't but there would probably some cultists who WANTED/WANT him kill everyone and don't care what his intentions are
@smolelvenbby
@smolelvenbby Ай бұрын
Hey, it's 6 years later, but the answer is Veiljumpers!
@XPokeSonicX
@XPokeSonicX 7 жыл бұрын
Inquisition SPOILERS AHEAD: I hadn't known Fen'Harel has no Vallaslin, now all I can think of is him removing Lavellan's original Vallaslin and going "no markings are MY markings >:D "
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 6 жыл бұрын
XPokeSonicX
@LostRunicTavern
@LostRunicTavern 5 жыл бұрын
true but it would of been neat if Fen'Harel had a rebel marking of some sort
@MikhailaRaibead
@MikhailaRaibead 5 жыл бұрын
HE did...if you read Coles dialogue he states cryptically that Solas was asked by 'her' to take a body and 'she' put her markings on him. The her could very well be Mythal and since Solas means pride he most likely could have been a spirit, like cole, that took form. "He did not want a body. But she asked him to come. He left a scar when he burned her off his face."
@afgusti4269
@afgusti4269 5 жыл бұрын
@@MikhailaRaibead mmm, that is not clear so stating it references to a vallaslin would be innacurate
@MM-kq6fe
@MM-kq6fe 5 жыл бұрын
@@MikhailaRaibead His Vallaslin is baldness.
@Fabian6980
@Fabian6980 5 жыл бұрын
Elves are the best in dragon age. Its awesome to play as a dalish in inquisition
@The1Floyd
@The1Floyd 4 жыл бұрын
If only they didnt resemble malnurished teenagers
@robadob55
@robadob55 3 жыл бұрын
@@The1Floyd with giant heads Luckily armor helps lol
@jamescole893
@jamescole893 3 жыл бұрын
Whyy?
@pluckybellhop66
@pluckybellhop66 Жыл бұрын
I agree but also gonna hold a torch for my fem Carta thug from Origins
@libertariandragon9142
@libertariandragon9142 6 жыл бұрын
I’d like to note that the minimum age a Dalish can receive a Vallaslin is 15.
@maryempire1104
@maryempire1104 6 жыл бұрын
I'm also a Libertarian 😍
@Kouyou160
@Kouyou160 6 жыл бұрын
You know, aside from keeping history I think it’s just better and cleaner to just live outside the cities in that world, I mean Thedas still hasn’t even mastered internal plumbing yet so...you know.
@Jeymez
@Jeymez 5 жыл бұрын
Concerned Geek: im sure they shit and piss somewhere, there was no such thing as a toilet back in 1000 AD lol. maybe they used some kind of large bucket to sit on and the poop would drop in some kind of water that's connected to a river, that takes it out to the ocean lol. other than that i couldn't tell you, cause you go back a thousand years ago, in most ancient castles back in the 1100's and even earlier than that, especially in England, ancient Egypt, the Roman Empire during Jesus time in Israel, there were no bath rooms. so id imagine they do there business in water or river outside lol. bears shit in the woods, before there were bathrooms people had to go somewhere to take a shit. so there was no need for plumbing lol, i can only imagine not being able to wipe my ass lol. especially if it's runny and you know what that's like. everyone thinks we couldn't live back then, and there right because we couldn't. we have everything they don't have, but just a few hundred years ago people lived that way. it wasn't until 1700 when the first toilet was invented, and was just 300 years ago. travel 200 years before that, there was no such thing. that's why if you notice in video games, the castles you find in Dragon Age or the Elder Scrolls comes from inspiration from ancient castles.
@beep3242
@beep3242 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jeymez They just give the piss pots to the circle mages to blast into oblivion
@hugebigpenis1
@hugebigpenis1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jeymez there were rudimentary toilets before the 1700s they just simply either were long drops which lead to a put which needed cleaning sometimes this pit was basically the basement and others dropped off into rivers r underground bodies of flowing water. They were terrible for hygiene and would lead to the spread of diseases but they were a type of toilet that this world would have. There would also be things like bedpan and other bucket like toilets which would just be disposed of on the street into the gutter but this would likely be the option in alienages and impoverished regions and even then they might do communal toilets which were a thing in the medieval period. Living in the forest wouldn't be substantially better as you would be at just a high risk with disease but due to it being harder to separate the natural work from food and water but those with training like the dalish would have would be able to avoid these dangers at a better rate but it would require alot of effort and they would be just at risk of a simple wound or meal being their death though magic does make it easier to survive in this period and we also see the development of non magical medicine/surgery in inquisition.
@Jeymez
@Jeymez 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugebigpenis1 your probably right, but they would be alot different than how a toilet looks today, and there's different kinds but they function a similar way. I find asian toilets in Japan and China for example to be the most interesting based on how you have to use it.
@adamjenkins7653
@adamjenkins7653 Жыл бұрын
Pluss you know, being away from angry humans with pointy objects seems to increase elven life expectancy for some reason.
@sethn5217
@sethn5217 6 жыл бұрын
Now I know what Vallaslin to give a Necromancer Lavellan, cheers.
@Seatlejuice
@Seatlejuice 6 жыл бұрын
Well today I realized I used Vallaslin that honors Sylaise for both my Warden and Inquisitor-
@baltejvirk3303
@baltejvirk3303 6 жыл бұрын
Gabreallia mine honoured the peaceful one(even though im an assassin)
@angeldutchess2996
@angeldutchess2996 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I unknowingly ended up honouring Mythal in both games. Which was made particularly poetic considering I drank from the well of sorrows. (Also while romancing Solas XD)
@isbammoi3358
@isbammoi3358 6 жыл бұрын
Uh oh. My Lavellan's Vallaslin is bright red. It looks good with her white hair! What can I say 😂
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 3 жыл бұрын
More blood than ink
@flowergirl287
@flowergirl287 6 жыл бұрын
Image if there was one you got the Fen'harel tattoo and romanced Solas
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
And imagine Solas subtly commenting on it.
@AlleluiaElizabeth
@AlleluiaElizabeth 5 жыл бұрын
I think Sylaise's "twisting rope like patterns" are supposed to be smoke, cus she's responsible for fire. The full face one is smoke from the lips upwards, like a cookfire, whereas the one eye bit is smoke tendrils from small flame like a candle.
@Haven-Snow
@Haven-Snow 7 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or does every ancient elf always seem to be bald??
@iona2225
@iona2225 7 жыл бұрын
Fashion is stranger in strange times. . .
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 6 жыл бұрын
Except Ghilan’nain, with her pretty white hair. :D
@Selinaris
@Selinaris 6 жыл бұрын
I have this theory that they lose their hair when in uthenera, but that it will grow back if they stay awake.
@goldylocks1932
@goldylocks1932 5 жыл бұрын
dianna k with dreadlocks since he is the dread wold
@slmdls5821
@slmdls5821 5 жыл бұрын
@@goldylocks1932 I see what you did there...
@boo5860
@boo5860 6 жыл бұрын
June's and Mythal's markings are my faves
@egirlSkeletor
@egirlSkeletor 5 жыл бұрын
That tone of voice when you say "this is a popular headcannon"
@marcoboscarol2420
@marcoboscarol2420 5 жыл бұрын
canon
@elaynacollins6325
@elaynacollins6325 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, the patterns, colors and the variances are actually marks depending on personal accomplishments that the person had made or trials that they overcome before reaching adulthood? Maybe deeds or trials in service to the deities that they mark with their Vallaslin, maybe that's why some are simpler, lighter, or why the designs change through the games?
@PimsriYotube
@PimsriYotube 7 жыл бұрын
I like this. a lot.
@alphaxtitania5597
@alphaxtitania5597 5 жыл бұрын
I had a fanfic that I was writing long ago, and the Dalish Warden I was writing had what I thought was the vallaslin of Andruil, based off an old Wiki post labeling each of the designs from Origins(this was before Inquisition). I now know that the design I gave her was actually Ghilan'nain's, which means if I ever get back to writing that damn thing I've got some descriptions to change.
@Kouyou160
@Kouyou160 6 жыл бұрын
Um...I thought Sylaise’s tattoo was supposed to symbolize smoke, cause y’know fire and the hearth...
@hannahevertson8306
@hannahevertson8306 2 жыл бұрын
Elgar'nan actually has my favorite vallislian. Specifically the full version. I've only used it on one of my 5 dalish characters but that's only because I don't want to constantly repeat the same one.
@LampSurvival
@LampSurvival 5 жыл бұрын
Gosh, you def. re-ignited my love for the Dragon Age franchise! Your videos are well-structured, interesting and not bloated with information like some other lore-channels like to do it.
@daanvanderloon5032
@daanvanderloon5032 6 жыл бұрын
Falon Din's Vallaslin reminds me of the wrinkel lines that appear on one's face as you get older
@-Gilver
@-Gilver 6 жыл бұрын
Daan van der Loon maybe that's the idea
@KaieSyrane
@KaieSyrane 6 жыл бұрын
I know I’m a little late to the party here, but you said at the beginning that the elves usually use the colors of tones they have around them (generally earthy colors) which I believe to be true. But I feel like I’m remembering that Merrill tells Fenris in DA2 that their Vallaslin is made from their own blood? And that’s partly why it’s called Blood Writing.
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
Well, they can still get creative and add dyes to their blood. And blood, when it dries, comes out a more brownish color anyway. You could walk into a murder scene, but mistake it for mud or dirt on the walls. (Dad hit a deer one time with his white truck, got blood and guts splattered on it. Two days later, it was brown)
@joeywild2011
@joeywild2011 3 жыл бұрын
@@cussundriakneal9904 Why didn’t your dad wash his truck for 2 days??
@jennifertaylor2247
@jennifertaylor2247 6 жыл бұрын
@Ghil Dirthalen. I always saw Syleise's Vallaslin as artistic variations of fire in the hearth (Origins), and rising smoke (Inquisition).
@glennabuckley7106
@glennabuckley7106 6 жыл бұрын
On the topic of Fen'Harel not having markings... it is possible that some were made to "honor" him as one of the Creators, but he did not approve of them. In "Dragon Age: The Masked Empire", Felassan is noted to have unique/unusual vallaslin. [I think it's page 72?] What if he had Fen'Harel's? Also, I think that Fenris' lyrium tattoos are Fen'Harel's vallaslin design. Why else would Danarius name Leto his "Little Wolf"?
@jennifercook3130
@jennifercook3130 6 жыл бұрын
I think, he named him "little wolf" because after the ritual fenris was like his dog (only living for his master). Once Fenris is talking about the ritual, he tells, that the markings are made with lyrium. I think this lyrium is making its own way throu the skin. It isnt like painting a vallasin on the skin.
@jamescastroalves16
@jamescastroalves16 6 жыл бұрын
@@jennifercook3130 i wouldnt be surprised to that being the "true" way of making the markings.... since the purpouse was slavery, and thats what they did to fenris. since the dailish lost a lot of knowledge, the ones who still pledge allegiance to the "gods" would mark themselfs in honour, the way they could, with blood.
@dracowolf3212
@dracowolf3212 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably irrelevant, but am I the only who saw the throat part of June's tattoo and immediately thought of the throat part Fenris's tattoo?
@BubbleoniaRising
@BubbleoniaRising Жыл бұрын
Watching this morning, I am struck by the familiar structure of the old elven gods. Sylaise in particular, the child of Mythal = Morrigan, the mainline story character who becomes a mother (child rearing) and can turn into a spider in DAO (ropes and threads). Probably obvious others but still made me "mrhm."
@swtormadness
@swtormadness 6 жыл бұрын
Oh! Mythal bless you! I was actually trying to convey on tumblr the same thing about the vallaslins - that IT'S HIGHLY POSSIBLE that each clan have their own artistic style of making markings or that even a certain Keepers have their own styles as well, which can differ from the previous Keepers styles. Also the whole Solas agenda that "markings are bad" kinda infuriates me, because culture changes and with culture the parts of this culture like meanings change as well. Dalish elves changed the meaning of the vallaslins in their favor, but he doesn't want to acknowledge that, as if it was still bad, because he remembers their origin. WTF, Solas.
@xXSakuraTearsXx
@xXSakuraTearsXx 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it even really matters to him all that much. The writer for Solas said that when he takes the Inquisitor to the waterfall to talk with her he actually planned to tell her the truth about himself and everything. He just chickens out and says something about the vallaslin instead. What he says is true mind you but I don’t think it’s actually a huge deal in his mind regardless because he didn’t actually plan to ever say anything to her about it in the first place.
@normal6483
@normal6483 6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, Solas' whole thing about the Dalish is so pompous and arrogant. "Oh I'm not one of THOSE elves, I'm nothing like THEM. They're ignorant and stupid and savage and don't know anything about anything." Fuck off Solas. It kinda sucked that both of the elves in Inquisition hated other elves, especially the Dalish. And since Elven Inquisitors have to be Dalish, it basically immediately makes both of them insufferable to be around.
@maryempire1104
@maryempire1104 6 жыл бұрын
@@normal6483 ugh I hate Sera and Solas both of them make me sick
@xXSakuraTearsXx
@xXSakuraTearsXx 5 жыл бұрын
Jake M. I honestly don’t see a problem with letting the inquisitor know because the thing is, that was the original meaning. If that matters to the inquisitor she has a right to know and make the decision to get rid of it. Then on the other hand if all that matters is what it means now then she keeps it. I don’t see any harm in it either way. He simply told her the truth and he doesn’t give her a hard time if she chooses to keep it. The original origin of a thing can matter to someone. On the other hand it might not.
@xXSakuraTearsXx
@xXSakuraTearsXx 5 жыл бұрын
Jake M. I don’t think it was because he was uncomfortable. I think he told the inquisitor because if it were him he would want to know. Like I said before he was originally there to tell her who he was so maybe it was something he had been thinking about telling her but just split second went with because he backed out telling her the other. I don’t understand how he had no right to tell her though. If you mean he had no right to remove it. He didn’t do it against her will. He only does it if she wants him to. He says that he shouldn’t have if it hurts the inquisitor. I think he’s prbly saying maybe he should have thought it through more and maybe that’s what he thinks. That’s fine but I think I would prefer to know the origin if I were the inquisitor. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be upsetting but I think I’d prefer to know. I could be wrong though because I’m not a Dalish elf. lol To each their own though. Bottom line I don’t think Solas was meaning any ill will on the inquisitor. I believe he really loves her. I think he has a messed up mindset on destroying the world but that is besides the point. lol
@amethysttonks128
@amethysttonks128 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video I didn't know that they had different meanings. My first elf was basically the default girl who had a Mythal on her forehead. My current elf is a male with the alternate June Vallaslin, both for Inquisition.
@razvanradoiu
@razvanradoiu 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! It would be awesome if you made a more in depth video about the Dread Wolf ... for obvious reasons.
@jadetr3678
@jadetr3678 6 жыл бұрын
4:09 is the start of the actual gods for anyone... soo.... yeah
@AloyImpact
@AloyImpact 6 жыл бұрын
Halla at me Fen’Harel! I got an Exploding arrow for you
@gingadreamurr6238
@gingadreamurr6238 5 жыл бұрын
Otter Lons was that pun intended
@lycan-zp9xf
@lycan-zp9xf 6 жыл бұрын
I will be severely dissapointed if you don't get to stick a blade in Elgar'nan's Skull, should Solas succeed in freeing the gods. He sounds like the most vile of all of them.
@lukavidakovic6674
@lukavidakovic6674 6 жыл бұрын
lycan2500 1 i want to stick into solas's head
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
@@lukavidakovic6674 Lol, when i saw someone replyed to this comment, i was hoping someone had said they wanted to stick it into Solas' head. And i wasn't disappointed. XD
@SmartAss4123
@SmartAss4123 5 жыл бұрын
lycan2500 1 I hope solas succeeds and the Evanuris destroy most of humanity. Because humans are and have always been the worst, most vile, destructive, arrogant, self-absorbed, evil beings wether in real life or fictional. Fuck thedas. Long live FenHarel and may he take you all
@JamesW609
@JamesW609 5 жыл бұрын
@@SmartAss4123 Damn, don't cut your self on all that edge.
@SmartAss4123
@SmartAss4123 5 жыл бұрын
Daddy T-rex I'm just stating facts. Humans rape, we created war, we commit terrible selfish acts in the name of "higher powers" we needlessly destroy the environment, biosystems, and even entire species of the planet have already been wiped out by us. We are on a clear and steady path to self destruction by either 1.Nuclear war or otherwise 2. Death to the planet by overpopulation or 3. exhausting all natural resources because we can't curb our overpopulation issue. We will be at over 10 billion people by 2030 alone and we have issues with overpopulation today in 2019. We're fucked Thats why I like Solas. He's the Thanos of Dragon Age, the hero we all need but wont admit we want because we are all selfish
@Zither_Bard
@Zither_Bard 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, I've been pronouncing June wrong the whole time and my Dalish inky adores her June vallaslin xD thanks for this video!
@AzuraBlackHeart
@AzuraBlackHeart 4 жыл бұрын
Dirthamins valaslin also appears on your face when you drink from the well of sorrows, so I thought for a long time that was mythals
@gzapray7203
@gzapray7203 2 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, I gave my Dalish Warden and my Dalish Inquisitor vallaslin that venerates Mythal. Considering how I admire Flemeth, it's kinda neat.
@Ar2kill
@Ar2kill 6 жыл бұрын
Great work sad to see few people following this channel
@jarrettlinnen6413
@jarrettlinnen6413 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks I always wanted to know if the tattoos had a deeper meaning
@michamcv.1846
@michamcv.1846 6 жыл бұрын
we probably will see in the next DA part how lyrium writing vallaslin get on a person if we are in tevinter ^^
@adamlambboy8332
@adamlambboy8332 3 жыл бұрын
Handkerchiefs to all the elven inquisitors who let Solas take the vallaslin they spent an hour picking out. 🤧
@isbammoi3358
@isbammoi3358 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Sylaise's Vallaslin is smoke rising from a fire/hearth. It always seemed that way to me.
@reddish_orange
@reddish_orange Жыл бұрын
So it looks like I’ve picked the mark of Sylaise on my character whose personality couldn’t be any more different 😂 that definitely makes my head-canon more interesting
@joshuajones2557
@joshuajones2557 5 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are just amazing, thank you so much for your efforts with Dragon Age Lore.
@willsword8100
@willsword8100 3 жыл бұрын
I asked Mary Kirby on Twitter about Merrill's Vallaslin and She Said it's a Variation of Mythal.
@DjDeedzD
@DjDeedzD 6 жыл бұрын
June was always my preferred design. Guess I'm weird.
@AgentZ46
@AgentZ46 11 күн бұрын
Here I am doing research to figure out what Vallaslin I want for my Rook. 😊
@ashlynbulsara4238
@ashlynbulsara4238 Жыл бұрын
Elves are the best in dragon age . ghilan'nain is my favorite tattoo.
@dodge2362
@dodge2362 6 жыл бұрын
So you've got me wondering about this now. What are the differences between Dalish Vallaslin, Qunari war paint (Inquisition), and mabari war paint (Origins)...
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 6 жыл бұрын
Dodge236
@chrisperry4014
@chrisperry4014 4 жыл бұрын
For starters... a Vallaslin is a tattoo. Did you not gather that from the video? Anyways the Qunari use Vitar as a magical face paint that hardens the skin and can apply small buffs as well...
@chrisperry4014
@chrisperry4014 4 жыл бұрын
This "healing magic" you speak of... where can I buy some. Only class I know with an actual healing spell is Knight-Enchanter Mage... Sylaise can kma.
@I_am_a_cat_
@I_am_a_cat_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the religions in games like this are just as believable as any real world religions.
@pluckybellhop66
@pluckybellhop66 Жыл бұрын
I agree! Visiting the temple of Andraste in DAO and really paying attention to her story was more interesting after playing inquisition.
@inzane0ne
@inzane0ne 6 жыл бұрын
I just picked the one I thought was the coolest (Sylaise complex). Luckily I think it suits me the most as the dating sim aspect is the feature I care the most about.
@P-C-Principle
@P-C-Principle Ай бұрын
Anyone else own all three games and find yourself playing origins/awakening before you ever replay the last two? I love DA2 and inquisitions. It’s a nostalgia thing for me
@kelseychapman9986
@kelseychapman9986 3 жыл бұрын
In response to wondering if Vallaslin is done somewhere other than the face- It is interesting because in DA:O, Zevran has dialogue with Alister discussing his "tattoos" all over her body. Although, he did not grow up Dalish, I find it interesting that he got any Dalish-like tattoos. Now, this could have to do with his mother who he says was originally Dalish and his fascination with her culture (like her gloves, which are an important gift the Warden can give him). I wonder if he just did his best to guess.
@artemisarrow179
@artemisarrow179 6 жыл бұрын
Heyyyy my dalish elf warden had the halla markings and I never knew it!
@aginggamer9720
@aginggamer9720 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative!! Thank you!!
@JillWouters
@JillWouters 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Vallaslin is a representation of the ones soul or character and the meditation reveals which Vallaslin one should get. A bit like the sorting in Harry Potter. My male Lavellan has the June Vallaslin, and as he's a necromancer mage, he's the creator, the crafter of nightmares and horrors LOL. I mostly liked the look of the Vallaslin however, looking like a crown, and the awesome eyeliner.
@storytellingchampion6438
@storytellingchampion6438 6 жыл бұрын
I used mythals vallaslin of the tree on your forehead and nose becuase I found that one to be the most appealing
@mineo411
@mineo411 6 жыл бұрын
Wait...Thedas...has two moons..? WHAT THE HECK?! O.o
@blakechandler167
@blakechandler167 5 жыл бұрын
It does?
@vivii44
@vivii44 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late but if I remember correctly you can actually see them both in Inquisition in one of the dessert levels:)
@abraxis260482
@abraxis260482 7 жыл бұрын
Just a guess, but I think it's possible that you may have gotten the DAO versions of Mythal and Dirthamen mixed up. Not much to go on of course but if you look at the DAO design you've proposed for Mythal, you might note that there's what looks like an open book above the bridge of the nose, between the brows. An open book seems like a likely symbol for the god of knowledge and (this may be a bit of a stretch) the fact that the pages are blank could mean it also doubles as the symbol for secrets. The similarity of the motifs could just be an expression of familial relationship, since Dirthamen is after all supposedly a child of Mythal.
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
Well, no, because in Inquisition, there were actual ancient elves that served directly Mythal, and the Well of Sorrows, and every single one of those elves within the Temple of Mythal had the leaveless tree design upon their faces. So that one is directly associated with Mythal, as we saw NPCs wearing them.
@rosskerr1439
@rosskerr1439 2 жыл бұрын
My Dalish Warden had the Elgar'nan tattoo. God, I loved Origins.
@gogogoup
@gogogoup 5 жыл бұрын
my artificer rogue has the june vallaslin mainly to cover up this odd mark on her chin in some cutscenes.
@beep3242
@beep3242 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't the Vallaslin made of the participant's blood? I seem to remember that Merrill said that it was made of blood, not just called Blood Writing to be symbolic
@michamcv.1846
@michamcv.1846 6 жыл бұрын
probably the vallaslin are more related to sealing magic we saw in DA origins in relation that every vallaslin has a differnt magical effect on the user like different written spells i mean the gods themself are related to themes or emotions that u could write down in runes spells whatever ^^
@michamcv.1846
@michamcv.1846 6 жыл бұрын
or at least if the ancient elf didnt do it . Enchantment? thats no problem for Sanders^^
@spartanhuntergaming
@spartanhuntergaming 3 жыл бұрын
My Elven Inquisitor had a Mythal tattoo on her face which were the full one that covered the forehead, cheeks, nose and chin
@sharpetutor227
@sharpetutor227 3 жыл бұрын
I can see Solas setting shards of the elven gods free to weaken the vail. Then the gods use blood magic to take control of elves to fight the world and in DA4 you fight the gods as mini bosses until the end.
@ash-lynnsarah8626
@ash-lynnsarah8626 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder how the dalish go about choosing their vallaslin. Is it based on whichever god they favour? Does the keeper choose for them based on their personality or talents or something? Always been curious about the vallaslin :)
@hayleybartek8643
@hayleybartek8643 2 жыл бұрын
That's the meditation part, when they cleanse their minds.
@chrisperry4014
@chrisperry4014 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you for the info! However, it's arguable that Vallaslin of Dirthamen and Falon'Din should be swapped and/or have been mistakenly swapped as the two are twins (who knows) Arguably, that is why you may have been unsure as to what exactly the twisting and tree-like figures meant on Falon'Din's Vallaslin. In-fact, it is reported that Dirthamen is a "mamma's boy", according to Dragon Age Wiki: "Dirthamen gave to elves the gift of knowledge and taught them loyalty and faith in family." This makes sense when you take into account the similarities of Mythal and (in this video you labelled it as Falon'Din's) Dirthamen's respective Vallaslin. I know this video is three years old but... I care about lore XD. Also. the things you described as "outstretched birds" under the impression that Dirthamen's Vallaslin was Falon'Din's could be representative of bones, as-in dead bodies. This is just an opinion based on symbolic study and just artistic expression in-general.
@Moxnaten
@Moxnaten 2 жыл бұрын
I always chose june valaslin in origins and inquisition and didn`t know about it. that`s interesting...🤔
@HimeBurrito
@HimeBurrito 5 жыл бұрын
According to the history of sylaise the rope thing makes sense..but i always thought the markings were snakes :T only took them because of that 😂
@SuccubiSage
@SuccubiSage 6 жыл бұрын
If only Fen'Harel had Vallasslin. My Lavellan would totally wear it lol.
@goldylocks1932
@goldylocks1932 5 жыл бұрын
Kai Robinson x2
@lalaland2751
@lalaland2751 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Solas would hate if Fen'harel had a Vallaslin dedicated to him, as he was against slavery and vallaslin in general.
@ilucasz
@ilucasz 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you must have contained yourself too much to not reveal Fen'Harel's identity.
@gingadreamurr6238
@gingadreamurr6238 5 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve read o believe Fen Harel translates to “Wolf Trickster”
@SuperDarkstarkiller
@SuperDarkstarkiller 3 жыл бұрын
I do believe I used Andruils vallaslin in both origins and inquisition
@Shadowhunterbg
@Shadowhunterbg 6 жыл бұрын
I really liked the Dalish from the start - they are skilled hunters, they can handle the bow and sword very well and deeply love their race, history and identity. City elves just seemed pathetic to me - they live in squalor and get abused by humans every day. My Warden is Dalish and my Inquisitor is Dalish as well although i wanted to make a human in my canon this time. It just seemed more right to play as a Dalish in DA3 because it centers around elven history and so i made a elf. I wanted to make a canon male character in DA3 to avoid all characters being female in the three games but the romance with Solas reveals more about the elves and makes the story in DA4 more interesting because Solas is the enemy. I hope that with the new writer in charge we can see a Warden come back. The next conflict is between elves and all others and since my Warden is a dalish elf she should get a cameo (any race should get it). She would never support Solas of course because Alistair. :3 :D Also the Halla... beautiful creatures. Judging by your avatar you think so too. Your voice is really soothing my dalish sister. Keep it coming. :)
@darthportus
@darthportus 6 жыл бұрын
I have human as my canon DA heroes. I am tired of how everything in DA play around elves.
@Shadowhunterbg
@Shadowhunterbg 6 жыл бұрын
Origins and DA2 is not about elvhen things. It's more about humans - Ferelden, the Chantry and it's issues. :)
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
@@darthportus Origins literally deals with primarily the Wardens and the Blight..? Which is mostly human oridented? Inquisition is the only DA game that really went ham on the Elven aspect. So...?
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
@Hurlock: I completely agree with you, on the Solas aspect part of the story. Which is why i'm making my Dalish Elf be my true story line going into DA4, because the story with the Herald of Andraste being in love with the bad guy - and he her - is just too good to pass up. I can't bring myself to hate Solas; he's just too bad of a antagonist for me to hate.
@TheKolboShow
@TheKolboShow 5 жыл бұрын
The Dalish are so desperate to preserve tradition that they end up clinging to horrible traditions that should be forgotten, such as the Vallaslin, tattoos that branded you as a slave back when they worshipped the Evanuris. I love the Dalish and given the choice I'd rather be Dalish than a City Elf, but they're a fantastic example as to why traditionalism isn't always a good thing.
@kennethheyer9157
@kennethheyer9157 6 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on the veil
@hearmeout8358
@hearmeout8358 4 жыл бұрын
Sera’s bow looks like Mythals daughters bow
@baltejvirk3303
@baltejvirk3303 6 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert if you somehow haven't played it yet They are actually slave markings solas and cory both mention this.
@amenthegreat3761
@amenthegreat3761 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, they represent mythal, slaves only adopted the markings.
@amenthegreat3761
@amenthegreat3761 5 жыл бұрын
@rosecoloredambitions all elven marking represent a god or role, the tree represents mythal, it's why you see the ancient sentinel elves in mythal's temple with the half tree on their faces.
@Saturnsolaris72
@Saturnsolaris72 5 жыл бұрын
With Solas in the end of Dragon Age Inquisition we learn that the Elven gods were actually mages of phenomenal power but they had reduced the Elves weaker to the slave state. The dreamers, the weaker magi and other were the representatives of the tyrant pseudo-gods and formed the aristocracy as the magisters. 99.5% of the elves had the statue of serf, slaves or servants.
@Challenge9000
@Challenge9000 5 жыл бұрын
The Dread Wolf Rises!
@135mikerules23
@135mikerules23 6 жыл бұрын
Who scrubbed the floors?
@petrichoreevee6224
@petrichoreevee6224 6 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone dislike...?
@nelavris6536
@nelavris6536 3 жыл бұрын
one thing that strikes me is that elven marks are known to be for slaves.So what was its use?that is to say.... who used them and who didn't?
@logosmaxima2775
@logosmaxima2775 3 жыл бұрын
The brand of evanuris
@rapmonied
@rapmonied 4 жыл бұрын
IS THAT REALLY HOW YOU PRONOUNCE JUNE
@0egopsida
@0egopsida 3 жыл бұрын
Aha I read this comment just as she said his name! I'm just as surprised lol
@prettywithhorns2714
@prettywithhorns2714 5 жыл бұрын
I have a small question. Who is represented in fenis vallisin in da2?
@aislinlindsay3950
@aislinlindsay3950 3 жыл бұрын
Fenris doesn’t have vallaslin, his are lyrium tattoos which are weaponised, he’s not dalish
@wolfwhisperertf
@wolfwhisperertf 3 жыл бұрын
wait! idk why I just thought of this but are the forgotten ones titans?
@SirMcLowen
@SirMcLowen 3 жыл бұрын
The irony with the Dailish elves is that they are practicing and honouring the way how Evanuris Treated them as Salves..... Thus both Dailish and City Elves are living a Jack shit lives
@camau79
@camau79 6 жыл бұрын
My warden is dalish
@maryempire1104
@maryempire1104 6 жыл бұрын
Solar said that the Valaslin is a slave marks by the imperium, is that true ?
@darthportus
@darthportus 6 жыл бұрын
Valaslin is slave mark for the Elven gods- Tivinter had nothing to do with that not even with the fall of first elven empire.
@maryempire1104
@maryempire1104 6 жыл бұрын
@@darthportus Omg !!! Solas lied to me what a jerk 😠😬
@cussundriakneal9904
@cussundriakneal9904 6 жыл бұрын
@@maryempire1104 He didn't lie, because he didn't say they were from Tevinter. Don't know where you got mixed up, but my Solas said thry were Elven Slave marks to the Elven Gods. 🤨🤔
@yang6642
@yang6642 5 жыл бұрын
Solas never mentioned the Imperium in that conversation
@DaybreakTownGSA
@DaybreakTownGSA 3 жыл бұрын
You might be getting it confused with the Inquisitor having an optional dialogue line where she says "This is what we keep? A relic from a time we were no better than Tevinter?"
@aerynstormcrow
@aerynstormcrow 5 жыл бұрын
An - dru - il There is a great project that goes in depth into the elven language on Archive of our Own. Including grammar and conjugation. Also the correct pronunciation to the names of the pantheon.
@aislinlindsay3950
@aislinlindsay3950 3 жыл бұрын
How is June pronounced? I imagined it’s just pronounced normally but this channel seems to pronounce it differently
@aerynstormcrow
@aerynstormcrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@aislinlindsay3950 like “Yuni” . The J is pronounced like a Y and the “ne” is pronounced “ni” like in the Dalish name Ariane . Anyway, I’d you are interested. There are three volumes to the language guide. Here is the first. Get comfy...it’s LONG and more like school than you might want. Lol. Shathe Shiralen! archiveofourown.org/works/3553883/chapters/7825850
@zeehanr
@zeehanr 4 жыл бұрын
Vaseline
@sonicbolto7
@sonicbolto7 7 жыл бұрын
Zero dislikes!
@thanjohn
@thanjohn 3 жыл бұрын
B
@musicIistener
@musicIistener 7 жыл бұрын
hi i love you
@FumblsTheSniper
@FumblsTheSniper 2 жыл бұрын
No offense but you cannot see any of the tattoos on the Inquisition characters. To the point it’s like you weren’t even trying.
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 7 жыл бұрын
Sub
@Luipaard005
@Luipaard005 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mean this to be critical but the DAI tattoos are almost impossible to see with that low contrast
@PrettyPinkPersephone
@PrettyPinkPersephone 5 ай бұрын
Free my boy city elf! Tired of this Dalish nonsense
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