The Van Allen Belts Are Dangerous - But Didn't Keep Us From The Moon | Answers With Joe

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The Van Allen Belts are areas of high radiation where solar particles have been trapped and accelerated by the Earth's magnetic field. This has long been touted as evidence by conspiracy theorists that we couldn't have gotten to the moon. But while the Van Allen Belts are dangerous, the tenacity and genius of NASA engineers literally found a way around them. Here's how.
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[@joescott]

As many have pointed out, the nuclear test in the belts was actually Starfish Prime, not Starship Prime. Much better name actually. :)

[@devinnator16]

first!

[@badgerello]

Silly man; there's no Starfish in space.... *sips tea and opens latest edition of the Global Flat Earths monthly newsletter...*

[@jordynnfields3795]

Love u joe

[@GlanderBrondurg]

@@rafanifischer3152 Just ask those who lived in Hawaii during the test. It knocked out their power grid and caused a statewide power outage on a clear nighttime sky.

[@jonathanhughes8679]

Unfortunately NASA sucks at documenting things and not very good at keeping up with things and also securing things. There are actual fake shots in with the originals and such. Because they let things get wet, lost things and some things were handed out to press as part of packages for writing stories and articles. So some of it NASA did to themselves. But this is easy to understand. They didn’t think that years later people would think it had been faked. My uncle worked for NASAL So I know it’s not faked, but they where nerdy engineers that thought surly we’d be going to Mars and the moon regularly, not still sitting on earth and not even going back to the moon after the Apollo ended. It was unthinkable to them. Surly man would accomplish this by the year 2000 if not before.

[@markaruski]

Most people don't realize that without the Van Allen belts, the Van Allen pants would fall down, thus exposing the moon.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I was going to........ Then I thought "that's too silly, even for here" Seems I was wrong (😉👍)

[@hazembayado9521]

🤣

[@mariamartinusz9699]

Duuude 1🤣

[@T-800..]

And, subsequently, Uranus.

[@mariamartinusz9699]

@@T-800.. 🤣

[@colobossable]

My biggest argument against the moon landings being a hoax is; that the Soviets, who had all the equipment and instrumentation to track and measure what NASA were doing, and a big incentive to expose a hoax landing if it had been, acknowledged them as genuine.

[@Wustenfuchs109]

But they will tell you that it is not just USA conspiracy, but all governments of the world, using "fake" space programs to siphon the tax payer money into black fund to control humanity as a whole. Never underestimate the stupidity of conspiracy theorists. You CAN'T provide an argument that they don't have an answer to. You simply cannot.

[@leogama3422]

@@Wustenfuchs109 A shity argument anyway. The USSR was an autocratic regime, they didn't need to justify their expendings to the public...

[@MrLunithy]

@@Wustenfuchs109 Yes arguing with fools like playing chess with a pigeon it doesn't matter how masterfully tutored you've been in the theory, how sound your thinking and strategy is, or how good you are at the game in general, the pigeon is always going to knock over the chess pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it won anyway.

[@harrietharlow9929]

Excellent point! Had it been a hoax, the Soviets would have been on that like white on rice. It would have been a major, major propaganda coup. Yet not a peep from the Soviets or, since 1991, the Russians.

[@texmex9721]

Imagine a rival sports team comes to your town and brings some fans. Those fans scream about how your team sucks. You then spend a whole lot of time making charts and graphs etc to explain to them your team does not suck. That is about smart it is trying to reason with moon landing hoax people. They don't really know or care if man landed on the moon. There is no logical argument that will make them change their minds. They are in it for the attention.

[@jongroubert4203]

I totally did the, "Oh, you believe in the moon?" thing about 8 years ago to a moon landing denier. He backed away from me thinking I was the crazy one. WINNING!

[@MediHusky]

You still think the sky is real? is one of my favourites.

[@cxk7127]

@@MediHusky EVERYONE knows that the Earth isn't real!

[@MediHusky]

@@cxk7127 You still think that's air you're breathing?

[@cxk7127]

@@MediHusky breathing is not real! 😂

[@magisterrleth3129]

It's all a simulation by the lizard people to better understand the impact toasters have on a society, maaaaan.

[@DungeonDragon18]

One interesting fact I heard about the moon landing was that we didn't have the technology to fake an uninterrupted live stream that long. The moon landing hoax says that the footage was filmed on a sound stage and then edited in post production, which we did have the technology to do, but film was stored on reels that had an upper limit on their length, and switching out the reels resulted in obvious cuts, which were usually done as commercial breaks. But the moon landing was multiple hours of uncut footage with no commercial breaks, and thus could only have been an actual live stream from the moon.

[@bobherget7676]

This is the first that I've heard of that scenario. It makes sense to me, though I've never doubted that the moon landings were authentic. Thanks for your post.

[@averybrooks2099]

I met Van Allen in the late 90's in Iowa City, he was very nice and at the time he was building a telescope at the university of Iowa. I asked him a ton of Physics questions while I had his attention, I actually originally put together the system they ended up using to turn the telescope. They brought in a expert for Linux I won't mention but he wrote on my workbench as we all watched, drivers for the freaking machine. It was an awesome experience and Van Allen ended up being an amazingly nice person.

[@jakebella5683]

Avery Brooks • hi from a former Iowa City resident. My sister still lives there though.

[@gabor6259]

That's so cool.

[@nenmaster5218]

@@gabor6259 Seen my comment, Kralik?

[@chrisfuller1268]

I worked in NASA GSFC's Lab for High Energy Astrophysics for many years. The older scientists were nice, but the younger scientists were completely full of themselves. You could almost see their heads swell when some news service interviewed them. Maybe life tempers us as we suffer the occasional failure and terrible personal losses that come with age.

[@teeshark6584]

Im more impressed with the Linux expert who came in and just coded a new set of drivers for the contraption. Jk but still it not every day you see something like that...

[@baldbearddad]

18:45 "which is why doctors don't use them very often". HA! I am a CT Tech, and I can attest that very very very very very few ordering Practitioners give any thought to the radiation dose to the patient. Nowadays, a risk-benefit assessment (which used to mean radiation risk versus diagnostic benefit) is about risk of complaint and litigation versus benefit of receiving insurance reimbursement and huge profit to the institute in which the Practitioner operates. Sorry to hijack the subject here.

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

I have only had one CT scan in my 53 years. And it was 'inconclusive'

[@baldbearddad]

@@PORRRIDGE_GUN Doctors utilize something called Negative Predictive Value. They order tests, and if those tests come back negative (or inconclusive, as you experienced), it triggers their next actions in an equal but opposite manner of reaction if a test comes back positive. For example, if you come to the Emergency Department with chest pain and difficulty breathing, a provider might order a CT Pulmonary Embolism study. A pulmonary embolism is the medical term for blood clot in the lungs. This particular study has around an 11% positive rate. So, 89% of the time, the docs "rule out" a PE and move on to some other possibility for the pain and respiratory stress. That means that 89% of the time, patients got a rather large dose of radiation to their chest (including thyroid, heart, lungs, adrenal glands and part of the abdomen) so that the doctor can look for something else. The bill for a PE study is very large, and the reimbursement rate is exceptionally high (doctors and hospitals and yes, Techs like me make a lot of money off those negative tests). Plus, the patient population presents a real problem to doctors when they demand these tests (it sounds preposterous, but they do... they literally demand them). The doctors are not in a position to say no, because of various reasons that I won't go into, since I've already gone too long here. Anyway, TLDR, the amount of medical radiation applied to the US patient population is higher than it should be.

[@a1sloth1]

Thank you for your input. You have been able to add some much needed insight and motivation in very few words!

[@miklov]

​@@baldbearddad Fascinating. Do you know of a good place to start if one is curious to know more about this? These things are exactly the things that worry me when talking about turning health care into capitalistic machinery (we are still sort of in limbo here in Sweden but it seems we are heading to more privatization).

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

@@baldbearddad Glad I am covered by the UK NHS. 'Take 2 aspirin and fuck off unless the pain comes back. NEEEXXT!'

[@DinosaurDWPPL]

“They literally just problem solved their way to the moon” 😂 I love that

[@justmyopinion4101]

Never believed it a hoax but was accused of being a conspiracy theorist when I asked how they managed to pass through the Van Allen radiation belts without harm to the astronauts. I was genuinely interested in this answer when I was younger but no one wanted to answer (pre internet) I was not studying science so I never bothered following up on it. Question finally answered 30 years late but still appreciated 🤣😂🤣

[@paulrasmussen5933]

What about the camera film as of 30yrs ago film could go threw x-ray machine cos it messed up the film , I believe they went but faked the video , that much radiation would've destroyed the the film 🎥

[@restaurantelajoya6929]

@@paulrasmussen5933 much easier to shield film than humans

[@pauljames5826]

And there was much rejoicing . . . Yay

[@anotheruser676]

@@paulrasmussen5933 ....'cuz by 1969 we knew so little about radiation from experiments here on Earth?

[@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9]

@@anotheruser676 🤣yea they only made a nuclear bomb and used it made a nuclear sub and used it but yea they knew nothing about radiation 🤣🤣🤣

[@PNurmi]

Being a nuclear engineer, you gave a very good explanation about the expected radiation doses and precautions one takes to minimizes any health effects from travel through the belts.

[@nenmaster5218]

Know Veritasium and neil Red?

[@Sauromannen]

Paavo (?), I was a bit disturbed by the prefix ”M” instead of ”m” on Sv, otherwise OK.

[@howardhughes6212]

I’m a welder. Just because you’re an engineer doesn’t mean you know anything. Engineers cannot reproduce the Saturn V rocket no matter how much they try. Engineers cannot replicate the skills of tradesmen no matter how much they try

[@PNurmi]

@@howardhughes6212 Your comment has noting to do with what Joe said about radiation and my comment. It takes engineers and tradesmen working together to build anything as complex as rockets. Have a nice day!

[@Sauromannen]

@@howardhughes6212 please... kzbin.info/www/bejne/foa4ZHuarbSkkNU

[@leehappy3259]

Thank you for your voice of reason. You & your videos are awesome & genuinely appreciated.

[@schoocg]

One of the best info docs i have ever seen presented. Well done.

[@anonymousrex5207]

Never ceases to amaze me that the more information that is available, the more people tend to favor the false information that fits with their world view over easy-to-check factual data. People would rather FEEL right than actually BE right... facts have somehow become a "matter of opinion". Very sad and hopefully we as a society can move forward from this very concerning trend.

[@martinattwood7801]

@@NakedProphet yes I agree with you.

[@the18thdoctor3]

@@NakedProphet _”The moon landings and COVID must be taken by faith, because unfettered scientific investigation is not allowed and much of the original data was deliberately obfuscated.”_ Um, no, pretty sure none of this is true, but go off.

[@gilbert6181]

@@NakedProphet Faith? Leave that to the magical sky daddy, science doesn't care if you believe it or not. What makes it hilarious is that you are using a a device with millions of transistors exchanging information at the speed of light around the world. If you were from another planet you say, there is not way this monkeys were using this technology it's fake!!! Thanks to a lot of real smart monkeys you have awesome technologies.

[@anon2036]

@@NakedProphet There's thousands of papers on covid just look it up on your universities library. Jesus Christ, deliberately obfuscated my ass. You're deliberately too lazy to do actual research.

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

your opinion? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaHYfKhpe5V1rLs

[@kazeshi2]

I've always enjoyed the saying/thought that the Apollo astronauts were way more brave than smart, and they were extremely smart.

[@gormauslander]

This is a true statement. We shot a ballistic tinfoil pod at where we hoped it would be in the time it took to get there, traveling through a hellscape of micrometeorites and deadly lasers from millions of stars

[@martijnspruit]

@@gormauslander And it was build by the manufacturer who could do it for the least amount of money.

[@allangibson2408]

The biggest problem was building a rocket powerful enough to lift their balls. The Apollo astronauts launched knowing that they had a 10% chance of dying during the mission. Five astronauts actually died during the preparations and training for the Apollo missions… Those deaths were the entire reason Aldrin and Armstrong were in the LM that landed on the moon - the guys higher on the list were dead.

[@shaunnichols1743]

Absolutely, you can argue both Apollo 8 and 11 were dangerous to the point of being irresponsible. It's a minor miracle (and testament to the support crews) that they only lost three astronauts in that program.

[@sdaniel9129]

Is that the reason Neil Armstrong was the first human on the Moon? ;-)

[@petarnovakovich240]

In 1969, who was the greatest rival of the USA? The USSR, if they had believed that it was faked, they'd have shouted it from the podium in the UN. They would've been very carefully keeping an eye on the Apollo spacecraft.

[@timg3679]

Seriously, your videos never cease to impress me.

[@briangarrow448]

I’m old enough to remember when computers were only in university labs and secret government facilities. I saw the introduction of electricity to typewriters. Damn, I feel old.

[@sdafasdfasdfsda]

I remember when Burger King had a Veal Parmigiana sandwich! Things were better in the old days (the 80's).

[@gabor6259]

Maybe a dumb question but why did typewriters need electricity?

[@SonofTheMorningStar666]

You are old.

[@justmyopinion4101]

@@gabor6259 introduction of electric type writers made typing faster as the older mechanical ones required quite a lot of force to depress the keys and would jamb if the keys were pressed too quickly. Electric type writers were basically like a computer keyboard attached to a printer and the typing speed improved by about 20+ words p/m.

[@briangarrow448]

@@gabor6259 If you look on the internet you can find what old typewriters looked like and how they operated. Then check out how electric ones move keys into position to make letters. The videos will show how they worked much better than I could describe.

[@SiqueScarface]

Driving around with Explorer 1 in your trunk is on the same level than having 50% of the World's Radium reserves in your suitcase while taking the tramway from your institute in Berlin to the Prussian Academy of Science to show it to the king.

[@MrDoggysmut]

Does the gentleman have a name?

[@SiqueScarface]

@@MrDoggysmut Otto Hahn.

[@1224chrisng]

or spilling 90% of Britain's plutonium supply onto a wooden desk, and having to brun the desk to recover the ash

[@PyrusFlameborn]

India once moved a satellite with an oxen-pulled cart

[@godsoloved24]

Joe, can you do a video on time zones? Specifically, when mankind realized that different locations had different local times, and what caused the creation of time zones?

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

Railroads...

[@NeCoruption]

​@@rickkwitkoski1976 ...you know our schools told us a bunch of bullshit right? You seem upset this person doesn't know this part of history, and it's genuinely not their fault that a literal child being taught this shit didn't give a fuck.

[@User31129]

Or even better, time zone anomalies. Like the 30 minute timezones in Canada and Australia. How China is all one timezone. And how because Arizona doesn't observe daylight saving, and the Navajo nation crosses over into New Mexico, and the Hopi nation is completely enclosed by the Navajo, for half the year you have an area of -2 enclosed in an area of -1, enclosed in an area of -2.

[@philschuler9674]

Great video Joe, thanks for posting.

[@BigMKatmn1]

i find it simply amazing that in the 1920's people could figure out the inner workings of atoms with a pencil and a piece of paper and a whole lot of smarts. everyday life i am surrounded by things i use but have little to no idea how they actual work. keep dropping the knowledge Joe, love the channel and the links you provide and i'll do my best to keep learning in this most exciting time. thanks!

[@cybersentient4758]

The fact that I'm using a device 10kx more powerful than computers they used, just to watch stuff on yt blows my mind

[@SirHumano97]

What goes on inside these computer chips is some real wizard level sh1t and when you think about how many things have to happen for this message to get to you and how fast that all takes place.... boom... Mindblown. yet we take it for granted, and we bitch if it stumbles one bit.

[@CAMacKenzie]

@@cybersentient4758 And vastly more powerful than that on the Apollo moon spacecraft.

[@cybersentient4758]

@@CAMacKenzie what kinda tech are they using now I mean the things abt which we don't know yet

[@xponen]

@@cybersentient4758 their technology is now no longer cutting-edge or advance, now they use laptop & iPad.

[@sceletiumbeliever2403]

Good video, only mistake was saying that doctors don't use CT scans very often. I'm a CT tech and ER doctors order an insane amount of CT scans, most of them completely unnecessary.

[@protoguy]

Follow dat money.

[@kikomagana1990]

They used them often, but rarely repeat CTs on the same patient. Maybe that’s what he meant?

[@protoguy]

@@kikomagana1990 As a cancer survivor I can say that this is not the case at all. I had 4 in one year. One before surgery to guide the surgeon and three afterwards as follow-ups to make sure the cancer stayed away - and these were "with contrast" which means they were accompanied by IV radioactive sugars as markers for potentially cancerous tissue. Technically these were PET scans but the difference between them and CT scans is that PET scans are broader spectrum scans and therefore likely more radiation, not less.

[@troyc4841]

I'm a doctor and I need a CT scan on your comment.

[@photogagog]

Well done sir on the Better Off Dead clip. That and "where's my two dollars" have been in my lexicon since the mid '80s. Bravo!

[@jameshenderson3877]

So many excellent quotes in that movie. “It’s got raisins in it….you like raisins. “

[@pennyz4929]

Hi Joe, I'm a fan, thank you!!! Seriously, thank you! AND this is the first video where I was like, "LOVE the music stings and effects!" For what's it's worth, the music content that features a stronger type highhat and kick feel kinda compete with your speaking audio....just being geekish... really appreciate you anyway shape or audio form, Joe

[@bimmergeezer]

Hi Joe, I have my BS in Chemistry from the U of Iowa. If I had taken my physics requirement a year earlier I would have had Dr. Van Allen as my instructor. He insisted that all of the tenured professors occasionally teach undergrad courses in order to keep in touch with all students.

[@nenmaster5218]

It is very important to have Debunkers and Entertainment made out of these Conspiracys! Sci Man Dan, Professor Dave Explains, Hbomberguy, those people really do epic Work entertaining grealty while debunking. Birds arent real is nice, but youtubers do the REAL WORK, tbh.

[@Vanished_Mostly]

Man, that acronym catches me off-guard sometimes.

[@perpetualbystander4516]

@@Vanished_Mostly 🤣

[@XViTNg]

Well. I definitely believe you have a "BS" from Iowa.

[@michaelathens953]

My uncle is a big conspiracy theory believe and he always brings up the van Allen belts. He kept insisting the astronauts would have needed tons of shielding to survive passing through them. When I tried to explain how bremsstrahlung effect works and that, counter intuitively, more shielding would have actually made the radiation WORSE. Yeah I was met with the most blank expression of confusion I've ever seen.

[@chrisfuller1268]

Radiation from cancer treatments exceeds that of the radiation belts, but the system electronics, patient heart pacemakers, the patient are not killed in the exposure, usually.

[@magisterrleth3129]

@@chobai9996 It's the Dunning-Kreuger effect. They learn a few three-syllable words, and they think they're an expert. But they only think so is because they don't know enough to know how lacking their knowledge is.

[@Yezpahr]

Not to mention: 13:45 It was designed to take on the strongest solar flare, with special coating, water shielding and special suits, taking the 4000msv down to 350msv. (so it did have tons of shielding)

[@bigrob966]

Ah yes, a fellow braking radiation connesurier.

[@ThrottleKitty]

I usually describe it as like using two two way mirrors for walls instead of glass to block a flashlight being shown into a room. Where, yes, the extra opaqueness blocks some light from entering the room, but then hits the mirrored wall on the opposite side and bounces around the room. Thus illuminating the room (and anyone in it) much more than if you had simply shined the flashlight straight through glass walls.

[@Diversifried]

Personally, I think the biggest thing pointing to Fake Moon Landing, was the infamous picture of the Lunar Lander where the leg of the lander was covering one of the crosshairs in the corner of the photo

[@DeputyNordburg]

What about that hair on a rock? Proves the moon is inhabited by giants with C shaped hairs.

[@nickrose8733]

That has been disproven - the crosshairs on the originals were always found to be in front of the image. Even the conspiracy video 'American Moon' aknowledges that, and that documentary is full of lies!

[@harliethomas1378]

Thank you so much for putting this video out. It always makes me so angry from people saying they couldn't get through the belts they would die and they're going to have to solve this problem, or they forgot how to solve it. When I remember reading as a kid that they went through the hole at the North Pole to avoid all the radiation. Thanks for looking up the details.

[@mfhmonkey]

I was honored to have known this man and sat with him on occasion having lunch outside on a park bench at One Space Park Redondo Beach Ca. He treated everyone with respect and I have to say I had lunch with him a couple times not knowing who he was.

[@dudeinoakland]

Who? There were a few names mentioned in the video.

[@juliaspoonie3627]

@@dudeinoakland I guess he means Van Allen

[@EinsteinsHair]

@@dudeinoakland At first I thought he meant someone in the video, such as the guy who drove Explorer 1 in the trunk of his car. Then I thought "this man" was referring to Joe Scott! Good to know Joe is as nice IRL as he seems in his videos!

[@AnimeShinigami13]

I love how you come to that explanation. *heroic music* "Let's nuke it!" Totally the logic going on back then. XDDDDDD

[@MrT------5743]

The government tested the feasibility of using nukes underground to vaporize the ground to speed up digging and mining operations. I thought they knew about the radiation issues a nuke would leave behind long before using them. So I do not know what they were thinking using nukes to dig would make the dig site uninhabitable.

[@deevnn]

Excellent…excellent video. Great historical and comments about conspiracy theories.

[@deriksummerfield1522]

Fantastic video, Joe!!

[@djstraylight]

Great video. All hail the Van Allen Belts for keeping life (and electronics) on earth from getting messed up.

[@jh1859]

Why are there no conspiracy theorists who believe that the VanAllen belts are actually perfectly harmless? Ah, ha!

[@jedahn]

@@jh1859 Did you know lost technology from the 1980s used the van Halen belt to cause a sonic 'eruption' wherever needed?

[@euansmith3699]

I wonder if Van Allen thought of the merch potential of his discovery and sold "Van Allen Belts" and, maybe, "Van Allen Suspenders"

[@SteveRowe]

Thank you, Joe. I always *knew* the birds were up to something.

[@Yora21]

The owls are not what they seem.

[@mattherring9104]

Amazing as always!

[@agentp6621]

I was just thinking about Jim Lovell being the oldest surviving astronaut. I was curious about the level of radiation he was exposed to as he went to and from the moon twice. This really helped greatly. He’s in his 90’s (I think 95?). Living to your 90’s with no publicly known illness. That’s pretty cool.

[@gives_bad_advice]

A top shelf human specimin.

[@josephschmidt1751]

Lol, "good show old chap". Damn straight. I love you Joe. I look forward to your content every Monday and you never disappoint me. I can't even believe that I watching it for free. I hope everything is going well with you and yours.

[@paulpeterson4216]

While it would be difficult to poll, the real question is. "When presented with a crazy conspiracy by a pollster, how likely are you to just lie to them for fun?"

[@texmex9721]

In 1998, A Gallup poll was done with various questions about different conspiracy theories. 6% said the moon landings were a hoax, and 4% more say they were not sure. That seems like big numbers except 26% said Bigfoot was real, and 43% said ghosts were real. 6% said Aliens abduction of people was real, and 2% said they had been abducted personally. Another question asked was did Apollo land on the moon and get kicked off by Aliens who lived there. 7% said yes. Gallup found that about 85% who said the moon landings were fake also said they were real but Aliens had kicked them off. Conclusion: Yea some people are kidding and some are crazy, and probably some are both.

[@oregonNYC]

Any low frequency answer is largely explained by trolling, or not paying attention to the question asked, or giving random answers to get through a survey as quickly as possible.

[@alexyoon-sungcucina7895]

This. Not to mention a fair number of people are just saying they believe in these things to mess with people or like WWE fans who know wrestling is fake but say its real just to drive people up the wall.

[@texmex9721]

@@alexyoon-sungcucina7895 "a fair number of people are just saying they believe in these things to mess with people". Absolutely agree. I just want to point out this applies to both sides of the argument. There are some people aggressively arguing the moon landings were real, often with little knowledge of the real events. Sometimes with false information.

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

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[@herrunsinn774]

04:13 "I've seen it brought up in my comments a million different times..." Oh come on Joe! I've told you a billion times not to exagerate! 😅🤣😂

[@alainmartineau01]

Love your work!

[@codyoftheinternet]

Literally waking up to my “Birds aren’t Real” coffee mug to watch Joe!

[@chrisfuller1268]

I want one!

[@codyoftheinternet]

@@chrisfuller1268 I may have made it on my Wife’s Cricut…I’m a big fan of the movement.

[@spatt1997]

What a nice surprise! Thanks as always for the awesome content Joe 😃

[@areyoumybuddy]

I went to a Rave once that was called: It's Not A Moon, It's A Bass-Station ... .... it's name has stuck in my head for years now, but never really actually questioned (or understood?) It's Name's Origin ...

[@jorgenjohnson2168]

I'd like to know what you're talking about when you're referencing "these more shield in sections' because the command module was the only part of the vehicle that had access to until they were well on their way to the moon. At some point they had to get the lunar lander attached to the front of the command module but that wasn't until they were fairly close to the moon.

[@texmex9721]

Lots of people look at the blueprints of the spacecraft and point out nothing says "radiation shield". While true, everything you can put between you and the source of the radiation shields you to some extent. And when you are are coasting to the moon (or back to Earth), you can simply orient the service module toward the sun. The engine, fuel tanks, water tanks, etc etc provides shielding. This orientation even puts the heat shield of the capture between you and the sun.

[@RMFUEN]

I'm often very intrigued with how the scientists that make these discoveries are able to measure the things that they discover like the Van Allen belts. For instance the tools that they used to measure the particles that make up an atom. Could you do a video on how they go about measuring these things that are so small that we have no way of seeing no matter how powerful a microscope we use?

[@robertterrell3065]

Another great Joe Scott video! Thanks again, dude! Loved it :)

[@lawrencetalbot55]

Logical, rational thought. Imagine that!! Best program on the VA Belt yet. Good channel, thanks for providing this content.

[@markoconnell804]

lol, oh this one looks great. Love the humor so far. You just showed i’ll be one talking about it not being a moon but a space station. We definitely have a lot of nuttiness concerning the moon. Popcorn in hand continue. Nom nom nom.

[@sumdud23]

i imagine like 1-2k yrs later when kids r tought bout the level tech in the 60s' and then told about the moon landing, they would be like "no waaaay...aliens prolly helped them" like we do when we hear about ancient megastructures...srsly, those guys at nasa were too great

[@knightmarecityk]

In a couple thousand years archeological digs will discover that we managed to mostly wipe ourselves out through sheer stupidity. Our only contribution to the future of mankind is probably going to be second hand embarrassment. They'll dump the dirt back over any dig sites, find the nearest pub and agree to never speak of our Era again.

[@lbarudi]

Hey happy new year Joe (and fellow viewers as well) 🙌🏼

[@drewpeacock3404]

Thank you so much Joe!

[@papadave3084]

@9:38 That caption had me laughing, Joe. Nice touch.

[@robsquared2]

"You merely adopted the internet, I was born into it, molded by it."

[@korkee1111]

I'm sorry, the internet became a household thing when I was 17... life was better before the internet. No convenience provided yet by the internet has matched the value of not knowing your neighbors' political views.

[@gnostic-wolf]

You're a big guy. What would happen if I took down the wifi?

[@caseyamdahl5546]

Great content as always!

[@deveshwarhariharan9508]

One fun fact about the ISRO when we were talking about Ludwig, was that the first rocket parts sent by India to space was transported in the back of a bicycle. Space agencies around the world have humble origins. That is truly awesome.

[@ivanfreely6366]

That's because governments don't give space agencies the necessary budget. You got to do whatever is needed to get the job done.

[@fieldlab4]

The moon missions were during the two week lunar day, meaning that the trip and the site were shielded by Earth's magnetic field.

[@glennpearson9348]

I remember a time when having access to e-mail was touted as an advantage due to "improved communications." I also remember when Kaysing first released his book. It was a main reason I set my sights on an aerospace engineering degree.

[@trippyp5817]

I can't get enough of anything space related...Thanks Joe Great Video !

[@nenmaster5218]

Science-fans should maybe watch Atheist-youtubers also. Its blood-related.

[@trippyp5817]

@@nenmaster5218 WTF would I do that ?

[@Hoigwai]

I love the rant and the Better off Dead clip so much lol. 8)

[@OnionChoppingNinja]

7:30 Rocket in that picture is not explorer 1 Joe. Explorer 1 was Launched on a Juno I rocket. That's a Juno II rocket.

[@dlewis8405]

Whenever I am feeling angry about the “moon landing was faked” conspiracy I go back to the KZbin video of Buzz Aldrin punching that guy. Very satisfying.

[@kurtlindner]

5:49 This is hilarious to me, because it's like, "of course the Army won because they had Nazi scientists." -but really, there's so much truth behind the joke.

[@snoyts]

I was listening to Van Allen earlier! Love the 1984 album!

[@tanzanos]

Excellent video. Thanks.

[@Jmax2018]

Thank you for helping me expand my mind Joe🙏🏼

[@nenmaster5218]

Science-fans should maybe watch Atheist-youtubers also. Its blood-related.

[@bazoo513]

You know what "Moon Hoaxers" need? Col. Aldrin's Percussive Therapy (TM), repeatedly, by all surviving people making us, briefly, interplanetary.

[@uladzimirdarozka3882]

I can't stress more the effectiveness of the CAPT. Totally agree.

[@grumpyguy2877]

🤜

[@MCsCreations]

I remember that. It was fantastic! 😂

[@larph7270]

"Shields up Scotty!" all of a sudden doesn't sound all that far fetched anymore. If you can keep plasma in with magnetic fields, you can also keep it out ? which would a part of a shielding system. Amazing in depth stuff as always Joe !

[@jwesthoff1021]

Fascinating. I didn’t know those personal stories.

[@TheZumadude]

"Oh, you believe in the moon?" is my new go-to answer when "The Moon Landing Was Faked" thing comes up in conversation. 👍 Thank you for that.

[@petermerchant4439]

"Oh, you believe in anything? Nothing is real." I win.

[@Carewolf]

I prefer the XKCD answer that they were faked in a sound studio on Mars.

[@cn5405]

There I am, scrolling through endless pages of videos desperately hoping to find something to watch when suddenly; ping new episode from Joe. Thank you Joe…saved my life bra. Awesome awesome awesome as always!

[@gabor6259]

Struggles of a KZbin addict.

[@meesalikeu]

a life bra sounds terrible. you should take your bra off at the end of the day. give the girls some freedom.

[@johnthiel7893]

Joe, Have you seen the documentary “A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon? It was produced by Bart Sibrel. I know him personally and have seen all the evidence. My entire career has been in science. I studied Mechanical Engineering. I also am degreed in Biology and Chemistry. I have practiced Anesthesia for 27 years. The evidence that we did not go is overwhelming. In addition to the documentary, Bart just released a book called “Moon Man.” It’s a very good read as well.

[@nickrose8733]

I am sick of people making up stuff about knowing this person, and having this and that qualification. That documentary has been proven to be deceptive, with footage intentionally left out that shows the premise of them being in low Earth orbit and using a rediculous cutout for the Earth to be false. If you are a medical professional, then I do not know where you learnt to carry out critical thinking, because I would never have someone who can fall for such deception anywhere near me. There is literally no proof the moon landing is fake, and a mountain of evidence that is objective, independent, reproducible and conclusive that we went.

[@nickrose8733]

Here are 3 videos that systematically dismantle this sham of a documentary. You can go straight to the 3rd video to see the main deception, but it makes more sense to watch the 2nd one before. I wonder if you still want to gloat that you know this man, who intentionally lied, and here is the indisputable truth. Perhaps you are in good company? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH7Vc2trbLSUrtk kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4qkkJpodq9jnMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJjLinV3fpicbNE

[@wren2900]

It’s great to know that there are more and people with scientific background who understand that it was a fake

[@maskonfilteroff3145]

I'm sure you know plenty about anesthesia, but on this subject, call me when you're degreed in astrophysics and aerospace engineering. This is like trying to lend creditability to a claim about a drug's efficacy by saying you have a degree in historical linguistics.

[@nicholasmills6489]

@@nickrose8733 I’m for genuine science. But the first two video you quote are simply an opinion from a KZbin. That in its self is not sufficient evidence. I’m a believer that man went to the moon. I have examined the evidence. In my opinion, this was such a massive event in world history and Cold War propaganda, that the Americans did prerecord events in crystal clarity. Some of these prerecorded events were presented as evidence to the public. And some prerecorded was simply recording of training exercises. Equally Stanley Kubrick was brought in to advise on how best to capture the event and present to tv. Equally, jodral bank detected a signal from a Russian craft following the Apollo craft. That Russian craft trailed the USA craft and crash landed. Where I have concerns on, is what they found and saw on the moon, the lack of subsequent visits. Even the Chinese rover has recently shown some anomalies. And why haven’t the Russians landed on the moon. Of course no use being second. But only USA have landed msn on the moon. Russia were very far ahead of USA at the time and the moon mission was to bankrupt the soviets. All interesting stuff.

[@mr88cet]

4:41 - You said it, Joe! Perfect.

[@vaszgul736]

Response to the beginning of this video: I would like to put forth the observation that pre-internet eras were more susceptible to misinformation than gen Z because "the loudest voices are correct" was how media, and publishing, worked for centuries. If you were famous and in one of the only, limited, positions of power to speak over everyone else back then, everyone had to believe you. And you could always say 'go pick up a book' but that required dropping everything you were doing and scheduling an entire day of going to a physical location like a library just to pick up a book that would be 5, 10, 20, 50 years out of date and no longer accurate, if it was ever remotely considered accurate. Not to mention rumors existed. Remember rumors? Before google could tell you the answer to anything? My little sister grew up in the era of the internet and as a child she legitimately asked me why older people believed so many rumors back in the day, legends and hyperbole. She asked me "why didn't you just google it?" --- Yeah... the uhh.. the google that didn't exist yet. We had no way to clear up rumors or stories before the internet. You had to just try to reason and posit yourself on if they were true or not, or hope one day someone way more capable than you found the answer --- AND THEN that you somehow, some way, found that person's answer. ...Dark times for humanity.

[@Dalnutt]

Where you there? I was. You literally had to have proof before you published anything and if it wasn't true it was destroyed unlike the internet, you had more truth until the internet and like the previous commenter said Russia would have been all over a hoax!

[@paulhaynes8045]

Hmmm... I was born in 53, so have experienced pretty much equal amounts of the pre and post- internet world. And I can tell you there was absolutely nothing like the amount of stupidity around then as there is now.

[@Zetoxish]

i would say that you'd simply had to settle with "not knowning" which is different from knowing something that is false. It was a slower time for information.

[@elduderino7767]

nope, it's far worse now before the media actually had standards, that dropped massively.. these days the media is an absolute joke, if you take any of it seriously then you're a fool education has dropped off a cliff as well which is probably the main driver, critical thinking is exceedingly rare - the proof is again the media, today with it's lowest standard in reporting EVER and yet still profitable they'd be out of business if they carried on this way 20 years ago, they say kids today are the most educated - unfortunately very few bother to ask educated in what? - certainly not to think critically and there is the problem

[@elduderino7767]

it's not ignorance that's the problem... it's what you THINK you know that's the problem

[@IsaacNewtongue]

Hey Joe! I'm going to be one of the nitpickers this time. In metric, milli (one thousandth) is denoted by a lower case "m", and Mega (one million) is an upper case "M". MSV is one billion times more than mSV.

[@MichaelGrundler]

Exactly. If it really was MSV as shown (or more correctly MSv) all of those doses would be “mega” fatal.

[@brucechamberlin9666]

I was 5 1/2 years old when Sputnik was launched. It was visible overhead and I remember seeing it fly over as a moving star. When I looked down the street in our neighborhood everybody was out on their front lawns watching it. Every house, it made quite an impression at the time. I think people realized at the time that what they were seeing could just as well be an atomic weapon. It must have been frightening. I read recently that what we were seeing was not the satellite but the booster that launched it.

[@iAmNovaFilms]

This year marks 4 years since I started watching your channel and the quality just keeps going up and it couldn’t be happier with it. Keep it up Joe!!!

[@mervviscious]

The Space Program engineers (everyone of them involved were ) were amazing. So amazing in fact there are things we have no documentation on (Illuminate Doctrine). It pisses me off too. The entire world sat up and took notice. A feat for all mankind!

[@LucyferSkyles]

My partner's father had his name on the lunar lander for making the landing gear circuitry. Or something important like that. I live right by Raytheon and it's weird to think of what was accomplished off the streets of Marine and Aviation.

[@mervviscious]

@@LucyferSkyles that is so cool.

[@grayaj23]

I came across an interesting observation about conspiracy theories: Scientific theories tend to reach for complexity initially and then simplify as more connections and understandings are reached. Conspiracies get more complicated over time because they have to be adjusted to overcome disproofs. A great example is the sheer nonsense that incels have to invent to "explain" why women wont have sex with them instead of making the realization "it's because you're a jerk".

[@aidanmargarson8910]

also identifying as an incel is possibly also a tip?

[@voodoodolll]

That's a great observation I'll try to internalise, took a left turn with incel bit tho

[@Sg6CrossOver]

@@voodoodolll His projection was too strong

[@ndowroccus4168]

Joe I like that…grit, genius and determination…exactly!!

[@tiffanymarie9750]

It's astounding how humans are collectively so smart and so stupid at the same time.

[@CyberSamurai4Life]

Next video Joe, please do one of all the real things, in recent time, that were once believed to be conspiracy theories.

[@GoADHDGo]

YES! VAN HALEN! Wait… never mind. And I know someone that believes that the moon is a giant piece of paper in the sky. I really REALLY wish I was kidding.

[@jakeq3530]

😆

[@ilarious5729]

Wait.. who put that paper there? Is the one believing this adult? I have so many questions

[@fajaradi1223]

Go ahead and JUMP!

[@GoADHDGo]

@@ilarious5729 He was definitely an odd dude. Super great guy but, man, he had some crazy home-schooling that wasn’t very accurate.

[@SirTools]

Thanks Joe for posting this one. It is sad to think some refuse to believe.

[@jasonarsenault1550]

I really enjoyed this one Joe

[@Kev79]

I love the analogy that the only difference between the cost of faking the moon landings and actually doing it....is the catering

[@tommym1966]

Indeed I always heard it said that it was easier to go to the moon than convincingly fake it.

[@gamingcreatesworlddd2425]

@@tommym1966 it's not possible even if they faked it Soviets were like a hawk watching entire us space program they never even claimed its fake as it isnt

[@tommym1966]

@@gamingcreatesworlddd2425 you seem to be replying to a point I didn't make.

[@eldiabs]

All this talk of conspiracies and I'm sitting here wondering how a large portion of the world's population still believes in an omnipotent space santa in one form or another.

[@keenfire8151]

Time vs Exposure is the key.

[@perryrhodan1364]

Thank you for this Team Joe.

[@wlittle8908]

I like Tara's comment best of all. "Birds aren't real is a parroty" I like it so much im going to comment on a comment. Great job Tara.

[@radonato]

mSv = milliSeiverts MSv = megaSeiverts This pedantic comment brought to you by THAT GUY.

[@joescott]

ACKSHUALLY... Just kidding, thanks for the clarification.

[@JavierCR25]

Loved the rant

[@SamSchott1]

Better Off Dead reference FOR THE WIN.

[@bryanrussell6210]

Thanks Joe for this video. Really cool info. And thanks for the shoutout to NASA scientists. My grandfather was one of the many engineers that helped build the Gemini, Mercury and Apollo missions from Marshall Space Center and Cape Canaveral.

[@Artak091]

I miss the days when you could load a satellite in the back of your car. Nowadays they'd have a whole... process... checklists ruin the fun of just winging.

[@jameselliott9055]

13:14 - 13:29 I friggn LOOVVVVE this video!🤣

[@chrisediger2061]

Love the Better Off Dead reference!!!

[@RowanAvery1375]

Great video as always Joe! I've been to the space museum in Huntsville, Al and it's wild how common, "Let's nuke it!" was the answer. Also, Alan Shepard was a mad lad, he lived such an interesting life. Shame he isn't emulated in modern media.

[@alpheusmadsen8485]

And an interesting side effect of that is that, the country that has been hit with the most nuclear explosions -- and the one that has been hit with the most nukes from foreign governments -- is the United States! (Fortunately none of those nukes had hit populated centers, although people still died from the fallout of those tests ....)

[@whimsy5623]

I met Van Allen once, he taught me the secret to levitation and how to speak fractal, 11/10 great guy

[@tracyjohnson5002]

Great video!

[@dinoschachten]

Aww, I LOVE the story of Explorer 1 delivered for its mission in the back of a family car.