The Vanishing of Sandra and John Jacobson | UNSOLVED

[@Craftingandcrime]

Let me see if I understood this. She called a family member in a distraught state and told them to kill themselves and what concerned them is that she hung up without saying I love you? THAT'S the red flag?

[@deplorableaussie6749]

Yep, I thought the same !!

[@joannabaparileszczynska]

Would have sounded ridiculous: “kill your self, I love you, bye” . Strange thing to be concerned about.

[@tessaducek5601]

Right? 🤷

[@alexisfreeze]

I believe the narrator worded it wrong. It’s what she said and didn’t say that was the red flag. The kill yourself comment and not saying I love you.

[@shannondavidson683]

Right?! She was clearly trying to say something that would get their attention that she was under control and in duress. Jesus. It is clear that her estranged husband killed her and their son to go live his single life. The fact that convinced me 100% is that he took all the money from her life insurance even though he admitted they were separated. Clearpy her 16 year old son was rightfully entitled to it, regardless I'd technical legalities said otherwise. I would never take the money that was rightfully owed to a 16 year old that lost his mother.

[@devontamosley4487]

Poor Spencer. He lost his mom, his half-brother, and now his biological father with little to no explanation to why did this happen or who is responsible. I wonder how he's doing right now. I hope he's doing okay, and I hope he finally will get the answers to what happen to his missing mom and half-brother and who killed his biological father.

[@Jaggededge112]

My heart is broken 💔 for him. I couldn’t imagine the pain he went through losing everyone like that. I really hope that he has been able to move forward and have a good life despite the pain and tragedy that he went through.

[@pinklight]

I've struggled with mental health issues since I was in my teens and that's not exactly a secret to my friends and family. A couple of years ago I was commuting to work on too little sleep and almost ran off a steep embankment because I had briefly dozed off. I started awake when I drifted onto the rough shoulder and was able to correct myself, but I often think that if I'd gone off the road and died everyone probably would have thought I'd done it on purpose. All that to say someone with mental health issues can still have an accident or be the victim of a crime. I have no idea what happened in this case, but in general police seem to label everything as self-inflicted if the person in question has had any mental health problems at all.

[@dmreddragon6]

Thank you for sharing your personal insight. I feel it to be not on;y valid, but insightful for this story/case. Yet the way the cops, and her husband handled her disappearance, the truth might not ever see light.

[@kellygambrel9049]

So true! If there's a mental illness that's always their answer, which is very, very sad!

[@jokesonyou1373]

The cops are only concerned with closing a case. If the person/s involved are known to have metal health problems then that is case closed as far as they are concerned.

[@Alaryicjude]

Honestly, I agree. I think her husband knew how to mess with her head and if she did do anything I think he put it in her mind to do it, which makes him just as guilty as if he'd done something with his own hands, imo. Either way, I think he's behind their disappearance/deaths.

[@ArtemisandOllie]

Thank you for sharing that with us, it helps. ❤

[@TrishaTaurinskas-rv6gk]

Thanks for providing my contact information for this!

[@bostonsandatot4948]

How odd that both parents are both seperate cold cases in very unusual circumstances.

[@julz3tt3]

Yeah that is strange. The Father and Sandy ...

[@MS-km4xp]

I love this chanel very much! It has a unique approach and is covering crimes that no one else does. And this lovely accent of a narrator 🤩🤩🤩

[@thea1990x]

she has a lovely voice! everyone thinks if you’re scottish you have a very harsh voice. this isn’t true at all. a lot of us are soft spoken like this lady

[@sarahwatterson5706]

I don’t care if on 100 phone calls with my loved one they’ve said _I love you_ all 100 times, I’m pretty sure if I get a phone call from them telling me to kill myself I’m not expecting them to end the call with an _I love you_ 😂 I think it’d be more odd to get a phone call out of the blue telling me to kill myself rather than not getting the ubiquitous _I love you_ at the end but maybe that’s just me.

[@LotsofLisa]

It’s interesting how so many people have mental health crises with that religious, apocalyptic, “the end is nigh” theme to it right before they do something horrendous. Sandy’s symptoms and what I think she may have done reminds me of Andrea Yates. Even their husbands are similar, they either didn’t care or were totally oblivious to how seriously ill their wives were. Especially with the mothers being the primary caregivers of their kids. Another mother killed her family because she was shunned and was so traumatized by it, she had to take them out of their misery before the demons came. Another was postpartum psychosis in the form of demon voices that told her to kill the kids to “save them.” Alan sounds like a jerk for sure, he knew she was I’ll and still went on a “business trip”, but I’m not totally convinced he did something. I wish her mother didn’t let her” go to the gas station” alone with her kid while in crisis.

[@irena4545]

If it was my child showing signs of mental issues, I wouldn't let them go anywhere unattended if I could prevent it.

[@smurfylee]

It could all be true, we just dont know 🤷🏽‍♀

[@Tampafan33]

Nah bruh. You’re oblivious as fuck lmao. Dude was about to be divorced and instead got rid of them and got a 30 thousand dollar payout. He got rid of key evidence and refused to give dna. How much more do idiots like you need to realize what happened??

[@coolgirlfrozenfeet]

Having religious beliefs regarding the end of the world doesn’t always have to go with mental illness, but there does seem to be a strange correlation. I think it may be a misunderstanding of what the Bible says about it.

[@maxalberts2003]

@@coolgirlfrozenfeet You call what happened in this case a "misunderstanding"?????

[@readdeeply9278]

Best narrative voice on the internet !

[@shendaraalshedir1933]

Much tragedy in this unfortunate family. But it's the little missing lad that cuts the deepest. Rest In Peace little man with your mummy. 🌹😔🌹. 🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦

[@everlasting9292]

Poor Spencer! His whole immediate family ripped away from him.

[@hevoskuiskaaja2008]

This would not be the first husband trying to drive his wife into insanity. Convenient for him to get the life isurance while getting ridd of all her stuff. He doesn’t seem sad that they were missing and didn’t help to find them.

[@seandelap8587]

The fact that Alan was so uncooperative with authorities only raises suspicion in my book surely he would do everything he could to cooperate to find out what happened to his wife and son the fact that he didn't is definitely suss.

[@akiraasmr3002]

Plus he admitted to having an affair.

[@ayylmao578]

@@akiraasmr3002 thats a stretch to say he’s unreliable because of that. Affairs are so common.

[@mypud4068]

Not necessarily, first of all he has a very good alibi …just like if you were at home all night there may be no way to 100% verify that but that’s why unless they have a reason to believe otherwise that a person confirming this is pretty good evidence of what there says. Also he was quite open with investigators by telling them about the problems and affair, I bet the police got tunnel vision and it gets to a point to where they are making him feel like the suspect no matter what so why would he want to help him to possibly set him up? It’s happened before and I’m sure his lawyer told him to stop talking because he knew the police were honing in on him and all him doing by talking is giving them a chance to see one discrepancy and charge him. He became uncooperative over the years not was from the beginning, big difference

[@mommy2libras]

No, it isn't. Another person with no reason at all to cover for him says he was in the car with him that day and that they stayed that night in a hotel several states and around 730 miles away. That "police didn't verify his alibi 100%" is garbage that police do - what it means is that they aren't accepting the coworker's statement as an alibi and apparently couldn't be arsed to call the hotel in St Joe Missouri to see if they had registered there or check credit card statements or any other of the 20 ways they could have confirmed he was out of town. As for him "refusing to cooperate", that's another thing you hear sometimes that isn't exactly accurate. If you listen here, you'll hear that he did cooperate for quite awhile. It's when they weren't getting anywhere and I'm guessing starting to drag him in over and over months or years later that he finally said no more. And they'd asked for DNA to "generate an age progression photo to help the investigation". After years with no leads, you know that's not helping anything and if they're still trying to get you in "just to talk" after several years, I wouldn't give my DNA at that point either. If DNA was going to help find his son, theyd have asked for it right off. And I would never take a polygraph. I wouldn't advise anyone to. Theres a reason why you don't see a lot of cops taking polygraphs on these videos.

[@SlimshadyVictoria]

It,s also INTERESTING...how her husband refused to take a polygraph, give a DNA sample, or help in any way!!

[@maewest4192]

Police was too quick to declare them dead🤔. Even though the husband was entitled to the insurance money, he should out of “good faith” shared the funds with her minor son🤔. Husband seems suspicious and knowing she was unbalanced why even suggest a divorce and go on a business trip leaving a minor child with his mother🤔🤔

[@katherinethomas3732]

I seriously doubt that little 5 year old John was 4ft. 8in. tall & 75 lb. when he went missing

[@Kari.F.]

That's an ENORMOUS five year old, isn't it? Maybe that info came from his father, and nobody had the clarity of mind to react. You know that far too large shoe they found that the father thought was his son's? That's the oddest thing about him in my opinion. Why would he think his child's feet were that abnormally large for his age? It's like he never looked at his boy.

[@thetaekwondoe3887]

@@Kari.F. You'd be amazed at how clueless some men are when it comes to their kids. Even if they see them everyday.

[@mariaeugenia2436]

the husband´s attitude is too suspicious, if I were him I would be more than happy to help to find my child

[@Alaryicjude]

My hypothesis is that Allen either did something to them himself and set it up to make it look like she did it or he manipulated her mind and essentially convinced her it was the only thing left for her to do. Either way, I think he's behind it with his ultra creepy and suspicious behavior.

[@fushi3572]

John Jacobson wasn’t 4’8” and he certainly didn’t weight 75lbs. The 5 year old was exactly 3 ft tall and weighed 47lbs. ☺️

[@fushi3572]

@@parttimehallmonitor nope. He was 91cm and 21kg. The normal weight for a 5 year old boy is between 30-45lbs. I definitely wouldn’t consider 2lbs over as “obese”. And the normal height for said child is between 40-45inches. And he was 36 inches so he was rather short and clearly ate well for his age.

[@fushi3572]

@@parttimehallmonitor I get what you’re saying but calculating the BMI puts him at 25.5 and at a 76 percentile. It’s almost obese but all the things I stayed about height and weight are from the missing posters.

[@kalebind1]

​@@fushi3572 stated* 🙂🙂

[@rondohatton7292]

Baffling. This seems it could go in two directions, either foul play from the husband or murder then suicide by Sandra.

[@Creheda]

I can see why some people thought she may have killed herself. But as soon as you started talking about the husband getting rid of their possessions, he started to sound really sus. And boy, she was right not to trust her local police dept, they didn't care about her or her kid at all!

[@Geronimo2Fly]

I think she had some kind of mental breakdown and killed her son and herself. Even so, if my son were missing, I would do anything -- literally ANYTHING -- to help the police find him. Even it it meant they might frame me, even if it meant there was a small chance I could to to jail, even -- whatever. It wouldn't matter. Finding him wouldn't be my first priority -- it would be my ONLY priority on Earth. I find it extremely strange how uncooperative Alan was. Still, her behavior was just too odd and suspicious. I think they're both in the water somewhere. That poor innocent child.

[@CBrown86]

I think the husband was threatening to leave and get full custody of their child so that she couldn’t see him anymore, probably saying things like he was going to have her committed to get custody. If she was hiding her journal it’s because she didn’t want him reading it.

[@NatureLover-62]

I don’t think that Sandy would have killed her son and committed suicide as it was apparently against her religion. Though she was having mental health issues, that doesn’t automatically create the scenario of her causing their disappearance. What I find upsetting is that her husband cleared out their personal belongings while their was an active investigation as well as his refusal to take a polygraph, submit DNA since his son was in danger as well as the fact that he was unaware of his wife’s journal. Though he was out of town doesn’t clear him of wrong doing. Husbands have been known to secure an alibi while evil actions are carried out for them. Added to the fact that he was to inherit 30k gives him access to an agreement, if he had an accomplice.

[@mommy2libras]

I mean, did you actually hear any of what was said? You realize that he didn't just run in and clear all her stuff out or refuse to give DNA like 2 days after she went missing, right? It was a bit before he was able to go into the house and get her things. The police had plenty of time to search and look for whatever they wanted. Yes, he refused a polygraph but everyone should. As for refusing to give DNA, that was a few years after they went missing- no one was in any danger at that point, except maybe him because the police kept bringing him in for interviews because they had nothing else. And somehow I'm doubting that he killed his wife and son so that he could wait around for 7 years (or however long the waiting period is to declare someone dead in that state) to collect 30k, only to have to pay some of it to someone else. He quite obviously was out of town- he would have had a plane ticket from coming back that would have said where he came from. For some reason, police decided the word of his coworker wasn't good enough to say they'd been 730 miles away- which they still would have had to drive there for him to fly back when he found out they were missing.

[@cecelia1350]

@@mommy2libras Whether or not it was a few years later, if he wanted to find his either dead or alive, he would have given his DNA. More & more Jane/John Does are being identified based on DNA given by the family. If he was innocent, giving his DNA wouldn’t help putting him in jail not to mention the fact that as her husband you’d expect his DNA to be on their belongings.

[@jamesl9371]

Vehicle not analyzed. Very strange. And didn’t search her trailer?

[@sidneygreenglass106]

Another interesting and heartbreaking case. I think the husband acted off about all of it and it's usually a spouse or someone close to the victim. Either way the cops dropped the ball. Also, why didn't he share the insurance money with her son? That's almost monstrous.

[@Ammo08]

I have been on juries and just from what I've seen on this video, I doubt they could have convicted Alan of anything. He had an alibi, a good one. Her own mother said that Sandy had some sort of mental breakdown or episode. Things such as her fascination with a Satanic cult, that strange phone call, and other behaviors would allow the defense to shred anything a prosecutor could bring up. I doubt him lying at first about having an affair or his subsequent refusal to help the police would have much bearing on anything. If Alan and his lawyer felt at all that the police were going to zero in on him, regardless of any other evidence, that would be enough to make anyone shut down. I really feel like Sandy hurt herself and her little boy.

[@indiarose92]

Yeah I really don't see any evidence that he did it. Sandy fled in the middle of a mental health crisis while her husband was away for a business trip. How would they have planned to meet up? Her running into him during that time seems highly unlikely. He may not be a very nice person but that doesn't necessarily mean he is responsible for the disappearance.

[@irena4545]

I don't like the husband much but it really seems pointing to the poor woman doing something to herself and her son. In her deluded state, she may have thought that death was a preferable alternative to whatever she feared might happen otherwise. Truly heartbreaking.

[@dmreddragon6]

@@indiarose92 -Her going to see him was a thought that crossed my mind, due to the gas purchase, and her emotional state where he is concerned. I find it strange that we hear he was sharing a room with a coworker without a he/she attachment. I don't think she calmly handed over her wedding ring(s). Either he removed them, or she threw them. It'd be good to know when she was last seen wearing them.

[@fighttheevilrobots3417]

I disagree. I think that it is far too easy to blame someone with mental illness for their own disappearance.

[@indiarose92]

@@fighttheevilrobots3417 I wouldn't say it's 'blaming' her for her own disappearance. Contrary to stereotypes, I know people suffering from mental illness are more likely to be victims of crime rather than perpetrators. In this case though (from the info we've been given) I can't see much evidence of her husband harming her. Her escalating paranoia, fear for the end of the world, taking her child without warning, all point towards a different outcome but ultimately who knows. I hope one day they can both be found so the family has some answers,

[@joywebster2678]

Just an information point since it's reported that Mom was concerned enough about mental health to plan to take her to the ER after dinner: 1. If concerned remove (hide) keys first 2. Call police privately reporting need for psychiatric evaluation 3. Keep things calm, set up dependant child playing elsewhere in the house 4. Point is it is part of the police mandate to help get someone needing possible involuntary commitment to a psych unit/emergency room. This would have avoided the run for gas in this case. No point trying to convince a paranoid person in crisis to go with you.

[@hil4966]

That must be an error. 4’8 and 75 pounds is huge for a 5 year old. He wasn’t large in the picture. I’d say it is more likely he would have been around 3’8 and 35 pounds.

[@andalistark5416]

Tyvm- i just posted, asking about this, whether it was odd!

[@rockstarofredondo]

Probably more like 45 lbs.

[@tevman69]

Well this is just another sad story for sure. But, it must be said, the ‘authorities’ certainly dropped the ball on this one, more than once.

[@davidp.5598]

Thank You DC. An interesting and sad case.

[@Trey_v3.3]

The strangest thing about this case is the call to a family member saying to "kill themselves" and not ending it with the usual "love you". The whole thing stinks to high heaven if you ask me.

[@julz3tt3]

15:31 how weird and creepy. Vernon gets killed in a deliberate hit and run with blunt force trauma not long after Sandy went missing???

[@charleneguidolin2293]

Great Video... Love to see more Women KZbinrs & with Facts! Very well done. Keep up the Phenomenal work ❤ Loads of Love from Canada 🇨🇦

[@sharonprzybylski9988]

I haven't listened to your videos in a long time (only because I have so many Google accounts and haven't come across your videos until I went looking for them). You sound different. Not your relaxed natural voice. I hope things are going good for you. I love your voice and accent that's why I'm commenting. Still love it!!

[@Ontheroxxwithsalt]

I will never understand why family members of people who are talking about things like the end of the world or overly talking about religion when it was not something they were always interested in do not get involved and see that the person is evaluated. This woman's mother could see she was struggling enough to mention it. Why didn't she step in and, at the very least, offer to take her grandson or to call relatives to find one willing to take him? She was literally sitting there with her and could have asked her to come back to her home and assisted her with getting help. How many times do we have to hear stories like this one where a dozen different steps could have been taken to change this woman's course of action. People not wanting to get involved is NOT a moral excuse. It is not an acceptable excuse. If you see something, say something. Don't leave it up to somebody else. That isn't what a moral person does. It's lazy.

[@FlonieXD]

Husband is sketchy imo. Who stays on a business trip for 2 days when your wife and child are reported missing?! He ADMITTED to having an affair somewhat validating her paranoia about it. He cleaned out the crime scene and was uncooperative with investigators. He got the full life insurance payout. His alibi can’t be confirmed. Sounds to me like he did something awful to her and her son….

[@sarahdeprey7950]

I feel the same and she kept a detailed journal !! I bet that would be a treasure trove of information and the mental health thing if your spouse is cheating and u have your suspicions but he's a narcissist and turns it around making u feel u r imagining this it can mess with you and is there any evidence she had mental health issues besides just the husband's word. I bet it would be in the journal. I believe the husband did it maybe his little trip was with the person he was having an affair with and she went to confront him but had to take her 5yr old with her husband freaked out kills her then realizes his son saw him do it and kills him to gets rid of their bodies hence why the six can't be found because they didn't exist.

[@Sunshine-nq6wv]

Unfortunately, the mis handling of the case. made finding evidence of a third party involvement, highly unlikely. Maybe Sandra had just reason, to mistrust the police. I think her husband being away on that day was suspicious especially if where he stayed was not easy to confirm. I don't think she suicided.

[@nutty77]

It's definitely worth reading/listening to the follow ups

[@WhiteChocolate74]

You wouldn't go to Purgatory forever. Purgatory is a temporary place of purification

[@WhiteChocolate74]

@@parttimehallmonitor it is a "Hell" in that it's a spiritual realm separated from God. There is pain there, you're absolutely right about that. But it's temporary, and if you're there you'll make it to Heaven. At the end of time, only Heaven, Hell, and the "New Earth" of Revelation will exist, Purgatory, ceasing to have any use, won't. Dark Curiosties mistakenly said that it's forever. Hope you enjoyed my theology lesson 😭

[@SweetUniverse]

I wonder if the husband found the journal, read it & got rid of it. He probably saw her writing in it. She didn't seem to keep it secret.

[@barrydysert2974]

The answers are, or were, in Her journal. Even the most demanding empiricists among y'all have to admit that !:-) 💜🙏⚡️

[@gemmaburman7767]

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't have mental health problems and her husband was making it up and had driven her to paranoia leading to her leaving. It wouldn't be the first time a mother had left her family behind to protect a child and themselves from an abusive man. The mum's story doesn't make sense either, why...if your daughter is going to the hospital for a mental health crisis...would you let her take her young son. You'd go with her or stay at home with both children. This is a whole lot of suspicious.

[@aishanixon8960]

Any chance of a podcast?

[@prowlprime]

At one point, you say “despite the evidence against him, he’s never been charged” or something like that. At no point in this story did I see any evidence linking him to their disappearance. Speculation? Yes. Odd behavior? Maybe. Evidence? None. Mental illness is a scourge that most people do not understand unless you deal with it personally or have a family member who does. There’s honestly no telling what happened to them.

[@ArnixNoelle]

I think you might be conflating "evidence" with "proof". There is no undeniable proof that he is guilty, but there is circumstantial evidence that points towards him. Including: - an unstable/unconfirmed alibi -admitting to an affair (possible motive) - substantial life insurance, of which he *did* end up receiving _in full._ - not cooperating/non compliance with police. -the wedding ring of hers that was, strangely, in his possession. Amongst other post-disappearance behaviors one could deem "suspicious"/that match up in cases similar to this one where the spouse _did,_ unfortunately, end up being the culprit. Which, again: no, this isn't "proof" but is certainly circumstantial evidence. Also, because he wasn't a formal suspect, his home/vehicle wasn't thoroughly searched, it even searched at all actually, at any point (which is strange to me but whatever). Who knows; perhaps if it _had_ been searched something more than circumstantial would have been found.

[@DanielleD117]

You know the older you get, the more you realize coincidence does not really exist. Just something to think about....

[@laurametheny1008]

Thank you DC🙏💔🕊️🦌

[@John-oo8dn]

Narrator: there’s no evidence that this whacked out lady who has talked about suicide, killed her kid and herself. Also Narrator: Despite there only being flimsy circumstantial evidence that the husband was involved, he probably did it.

[@kathydavenport4422]

Yea let’s just take his words for it. I can’t believe these cops are so lazy it’s unthinkable

[@i.p.956]

So your wife is falling apart mentally in front of you for weeks and you just go on your business trip without thinking twice? I would try to cancel or if I can’t, I’ll speak with my partner’s mum and ask her to keep an eye on them.

[@thyjuliette]

Yeah...super suspicious. 🤔

[@guoguo1363]

看到那么小的孩子受到伤害 感觉痛彻心扉……人为什么会如此邪恶…

[@cjmiller2037]

What a beautiful little boy, was dad ever remorseful? Sad story. Rip John

[@Macho_Fantastico]

The reports of Sandra's mental health should have been massive red flags for her family. Sadly I think she took her own life, as well as the life of her son. Alan's behaviour might have been odd, but I don't think he was involved in her disappearance.

[@plynn136]

How did she manage to hide their dead bodies?

[@hanfred]

@@plynn136 The river did it for her (maybe).

[@InsertNameHere-th5nt]

cool video reminds me of the good old day of watching rob dyke murder mystery video

[@sheilagravely5621]

What ever happened to Rob Dyke anyway???

[@barbarasmith2693]

It sounds like a clear cut case of religious mania. I believe she and the little boy are no longer among the living. The mother may have taken her child's life because she was fearful of losing custody to his father if they were to divorce. But is seems very likely that she had been delusional enough to think she was "saving" her son from whatever paranoid fantasy ideation she was suffering. It is a pity (no blame intended) that her mother did not stop Sandy from leaving with John in the car while she was in a state of severe mental crisis. *Let this story be a cautionary tale to anyone who has a friend or loved one, or even a mere acquaintance, who is very obviously having a mental health emergency.* *Do not allow them to remain in custody of a child until they have been evaluated thoroughly by a competent team of mental health care professionals and deemed safe to continue that custody.* So many of these stories have clear signs before a tragedy that involves a severely mentally ill parent and yet no one steps in to stop the child from being killed by them. Heartbreaking for all involved.

[@patriciacourt5946]

I’ve listened to the audio number 3 extra stories about Sandra Jacobson and her 5yr old son John who went missing after getting gas. There are a lot of unanswered questions which the Police in the beginning didn’t ask or have investigated! Her husband Alan should have been looked into more because I believe he had something to do with her disappearance and the Police did a bungled job of not investigating Alan more and should have got a search warrant of the trailer and look for her journal. I don’t believe she ended her own life or her young son’s life, and I do believe there was foul play of the death of her ex - husband! I hope and pray they find the answers they are looking for.. 🙏 to bring some closure for the family..a very sad case..🙏🌻

[@jinx17]

Turning down a polygraph test is sort of 50/50 to me. Suspicious? Meh, yes and no. I can't say I'd agree to one myself in most cases even if I'm innocent. Results can be interpreted differently or skewed. It really comes down to how the polygrapher(?) reads the results and i feel people can have different reactions. I feel it's pretty likely she could have done something herself sadly. Mental breaks are no joke.

[@DneilB007]

Polygraphs are stress detectors. They are about as reliable as flipping a coin in identifying falsehoods. They are good at detecting changes in stress levels, which could reflect anything. Police frequently use them to justify their suspicions about a person of interest; if he thought they were targeting him, I could understand him refusing one.

[@Loralanthalas]

You do know cops are hired due to moldable morals Literally what's illegal one year and will get the hell beat out of you for it and 'throw the book at you' & next year its legalized and fine. Their entire system is arrests and fines (DUIs are over 100 billion dollar business a year for our local governments). YOU vote for DAs and judges based in arrests and convictions. Not "justice". You also know that even in death penalty cases almost 10% have been retried AND SET FREE. Almost 10% in death row stakes are, in fact, innocent. And you expect me to take something inadmissible in court? 😂 with my mom who used to hang with FBI because she worked private security and they'd practice passing them when I was a little girl in Albuquerque back in the 80s. 😂😂😂😂😂 I'll pass.

[@PK-bh1ww]

The husband couldn't have harmed them his self because he was out of town when she disappeared.She and boy had been with family just minutes before she disappeared. Unless he hired someone. But why would he kill his son? Didn't seem to be any issues with him not wanting the boy. I think it's more likely she jumped off the bridge. And that river flows pretty fast. It could carry them away in a matter if minutes.

[@cecelia1350]

I thought the narrator said the alibi was never verified.

[@PK-bh1ww]

@@cecelia1350 I heard something to that affect. They might nit have done more investigating of that. He left with a co worker that picked him up and had no vehicle with him and he had to fly back home. If he rented a car it would take a 24 hr drive to get there and back... If he hired someone to kill her , why would he murder his son? I know people have killed their children, but he didn't sound like the type. He may have had issues with her but I think he loved his son.

[@Get_rid_of_u_248]

Love your voice.

[@skmasturb-do6zu]

The police need to take a closer look at Alan

[@pmajudge]

R.I.P. TO THE FAMILY THAT DIED WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES IT'S HORRENDOUS INDEED . FROM U.K. (2022).

[@iseultbourke4692]

Pity someone did not help her in her distress and maybe take her son for a while so that he would not have been at risk.....

[@maxalberts2003]

What? There may be "no evidence" that could stand up in court, but there's PLENTY of evidence that something extremely dark was going on with this family. And of course, and as usual, the children suffer the most. People afflicted with serious and persistent mental illness tend to congregate together and sometimes reinforce (and therefore magnify) each other's delusions. Like living in Hell. Once again, shoddy initial police work. What one might call a perfect storm.

[@CC3193]

I love your accent and voice @Dark Curiosities

[@j4kgang921]

The ex husband SHOULDVE PICKED UP HER PHONE CALL NO MATTER WHAT KNOWING HIS SON IS WITH HER!!💯

[@PiXie232]

I don’t think he did it. It would have been nearly impossible for him. And really, she could have very easily taken off her wedding rings when they had separated, and the rings were left at the house. And he just found them there later. I honestly think she had a mental break and did something to her and the child. I don’t think the co-worker would have covered for him that entire time knowing that it was a murder investigation if he really wasn’t there. He had no way to get back there anyhow and then back out of town again to ride back with all of the co-workers. It just doesn’t make any sense. Also, a 30,000 life insurance policy isn’t that much- although people have killed for much less, she was clearly having a mental breakdown long before she disappeared. Very sad that little John was a victim in all this as well.

[@hevoskuiskaaja2008]

She was scared about the divorce so the least thing she would do is taking the rings off by herself, especially of she is a believer.

[@Sandi-zh2wx]

If you aren't guilty of anything you would (in theory, what I would do), assist anybody and everybody that's trying to find your family, especially if you are "getting back together". I can understand not taking a polygraph. I'm not sure I would take one either, unless my attorney advised me to, and then I'd still be hesitant. But not giving pictures of his wife and kid? And not giving his DNA....dude's been watching too much true crime 😂. Btw, he sounds guilty AF

[@annepascoe3029]

I don't think after telling someone to kill yrself U would then say I love u this is a weird case

[@lynnesummers-noble5029]

Funny how sandy took clothes and perishables when she left the trailer, probably took her precious journal too. I think sandy took her and johns lives but not by jumping in the river, I believe unequivocal evidence would have been found by now. Sad story and sad for her son left behind.

[@kathydavenport4422]

This is so horrible sad

[@janicecorn3247]

Sounds like the police didn’t do their job!

[@andalistark5416]

John was 4’8” at the time of disappearance?! Is that big for a 5 yo?

[@Kari.F.]

Enormous! It can't be right.

[@rebeccaranger1607]

What ever happened to the car???

[@lynnesummers-noble5029]

Abandoned

[@HopelessSinner]

8:10, car found abandoned

[@ingridfong-daley5899]

I would almost guarantee her husband was psychologically abusing/manipulating her behind the scenes to push her into 'visibly crazy' territory--those late night, teary phone calls were likely full of gaslighting. He was fed up with having a mentally ill wife and wanted to move on to someone less high maintenance/cost. Whether he then killed her or she just followed thru on her own plans to kill her son so she wouldn't lose custody (which I'm sure the husband was threatening her with every chance he got), I guess we don't know. But if she had dinner with her mom that night, did her mom see her wearing the jewelry that was then later found in her husband's possessions? Was she known to always have them on? And then with not giving the kid's photo, not providing DNA for updated images, lying about the shoe (and maybe even the whole story about the bridge-jumping plan... is it just HIS word that they'd made this pact? Seems convenient.) I say he killed her and the kid (or had it done by a work buddy?), put the car on the bridge as a decoy to keep the cops busy, then went back to his sweet sweet life sleeping around and spending that life insurance money on something other than his wife's medicine and hospital visits.

[@hevoskuiskaaja2008]

Agree

[@rapman5791]

She called a family member in a “ distraught state” I wonder which state she called ? 🤷‍♂️ I know California is a distraught state Connecticut is a severely distraught state If you’ve ever been to New Mexico then you’d know how distraught that state is.

[@pikeman80]

Not trusting police? Sounds like a sign of sanity to me.

[@KohalaLover]

Alan sounds shady. And the police equally shady. Didn’t bother to scour her car or process her mobile home. I didn’t find Alan’s alibi to have been proven. Why didn’t he return home right after hearing that Sandy and John were missing? It’s certainly plausible that Sandy took her and her boy out. Psychosis.

[@monicamestas7566]

I like your videos but you don't need to insert so many stock photos and videos that are not from the actual case.

[@seandelap8587]

The husband is shady to say the least I believe he's responsible for their disappearance.

[@julz3tt3]

What a strange case. So this Vernon guy made a pact to kill himself with Sandy should the the end of the world come? So Alan was most likely moving on with his life if he had another girlfriend its not an affair because they were seperated but he admitted to one affair which would not help things. We only have Alan's word for these actions of hers. Do we know she did this?does he have a solid infallible alibi? Its quite plausible that he had nothing to do with her disappearance and most likely death. Her mental health declining like that withiut any professional help or doctors intervention leave her extremely vulnerable to attack or suicide. Why was the trailer never searched? Alan had the wedding rings and we just have his word for it? Okay so maybe not enough to convict him but he doesn't go without suspicion. He took things from the trailer and he had no idea she kept a journal? He doesn't sound like a nice person nor does he seem to care about his son which is weird. Refusing a polygraph? Not cooperating with police? Why? If hes innocent with nothing to prove what has he got to lose?

[@xxartimisxx]

Huh… I was four days old when they vanished…

[@sandraadams4940]

Too convoluted

[@andreascala2663]

imo 95% she took her and her son lives

[@southernbandit93]

Only person I feel sorry for in this is Spencer. I hope that the husband didn’t have any involvement into their disappearance/death but if so, his death was simply karma

[@bkitteh6295]

It was her first husband, Spencer's (the teenager's) father who died, right? Her 2nd husband, the guy who got her insurance money & personal belongings, was uncooperative with police, and was the little's boy's (John's) father is alive, I think. Or maybe that's what you meant, and it slid right past me. So many trick-or-treaters seen & so many Tootsie Rolls eaten whil I was trying watch & read comments. 🍫 🧙‍♀️✌🏽

[@lauriesmith4575]

Maybe they should check the river again. Or a lake that's nearby, possibly? She could have driven her car into either one- ala Susan Smith- especially if she was in a really bad mental state. Just a suggestion. *gets to the mention about finding the car* Oh. Never mind. Scratch that suggestion.

[@Gisellej80]

👀

[@bungalowfeuhler1541]

It must be nice to have mountains of evidence ignored for the sake of blindly shielding you from any accountability. You’d never have to behave like an adult at all. Hell, just invent wild conspiracies centering on absence of evidence as a means to prove anyone other than her is responsible.

[@ctsbathory8867]

I have to wonder if this is a homicide it seems more like she killed herself and son as that is something those with Religious mental health issues tend to do. Religious mania is really dangerous. More so than people want to admit. She was having mental health issues enough for her mum to tell her to go to a hospital, but she was allowed alone with her young child?

[@neneshubby]

I think the husband did it and tried to stage it like a suicide. Even though the police totally botched this investigation there’s a lot of circumstantial evidence.. He seemed very anxious for investigators to believe that shoe belong to his son. Trying to downplay obvious marriage problems, admits to an affair. Can’t account for his exact whereabouts when she was murdered, refusal to give DNA, cleaning out the home, The mysteriously missing journal. When a woman goes missing under mysterious circumstances the husband or boyfriend is responsible over 80% of the time

[@greyLeicester]

The way you pronounce the 'h' in why, somewhat and meanwhile is hilarious. Stewie Griffin would be proud of you 😉

[@RockismyAir]

She is scottish.

[@d993s]

Conseaaaaarrrrrnz

[@DinoCism]

Poor kid didn't have a chance with parents like that.

[@Acharmedlife]

Religious insanity strikes again.

[@MdnightWnd]

Seems pretty obvious that Alan did it. And the police dropped the ball so many times - completely ridiculous. I feel so bad for Sandy's older son - to lose his whole family. I hope they are found one day and he and the rest of the family can get closure.

[@rapman5791]

This chick was 10-1

[@dmgsoultogetherness6667]

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[@amandas.7143]

the fact she didn’t leave a suicide note makes me somewhat skeptical she killed herself. it’s also odd neither body was ever discovered🤷🏻‍♀️

[@btcrazee1]

The husband did probably did it.

[@bobbaralawrence2002]

I don't think her husband had anything to do with her or his son's disappearance. I think their disappearance was a convenience to him and he just hindered the investigation so they wouldn't be found so he could later cash in the life insurance policy

[@carolyndalton7775]

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