The Victorian Smear Campaign on Regency Fashion

Thanks for watching my first KZbin video! We’re exploring the Victorian condemnation of feminine regency fashion…because I think it’s interesting, and hopefully so will you.
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[@aliciavquinn]

10k views in the first 4 days on my first long-form video 🥲🫶🏻 Thanks to all watching and commenting. I am SO grateful and currently working on my next video (mic issues resolved and will be out of this temp filming location).

[@jakecavendish3470]

Years ago I read a diary account of a ball given in London in the 1840s (I think it was at Holland House but may have been Buckingham Palace) and it was hilarious. Basically a young woman was complaining that all the women over 60 were dressed with their boobs and shoulders on display, had loads of rouge and powder on, and were basically roaring drunk. It was like reading the diary of a vegan gen Z at a boomer BBQ.😂

[@aliciavquinn]

That’s so funny! Such a great analogy

[@rooo358]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@babsybrrrnz]

I think it's fascinating that no matter when the youth tend to love/gravitate to what their grandparents/elders wore in their youth.

[@cakefaceLala]

I remember once hearing a saying, something along the lines of, your children will always reflect your parents more than you.

[@GH-fb9dh]

And hate what their parents wore 😂

[@piccalillipit9211]

I was talking to a lady last week, she told me she was at a conference and this other woman had a stunning blue skirt & jacket combination, she told her she looked great and asked where she bought it? Her grandfather had made it for her grandmother in 1940. That story made me so happy for some reason.

[@spaghettiking7312]

I like wearing old style suits, and I'm sometimes seen as having a bit of a grandpa style. I've been compared to my grandfather, even though I never got to meet him.

[@somethingclever8916]

So shaming fashion of a bygone era isn't a new thing. In 50 years, the young generation will look at the fashions of now "funny looking" " unflattering" "unattractive" And chances are they will comment about how dirty and smelling we are.

[@Eloraurora]

There's an exchange in (IIRC) _Mrs. McGinty's Dead_ that notes this trend. They're looking at old photos, and an older woman is ruefully acknowledging a young woman saying how silly they look to modern eyes. In response, a young man reassures her that the young woman will feel much the same in a few decades.

[@Lady_dromeda]

Right now i question the fashion styles of today 😂 (because i prefer more vintage and historical fashion styles patially) because: why do all the shirts have to be cropped? I mean i like it but my dad complains every time i wear one (and im 24)

[@MorganChaos]

Why dirty and smelly??

[@MorganChaos]

@@stunt-girl okay fair enough lol. My mind went to how in the modern day we've never washed more and never needed to wash less so if anything I expect we'll realize it's better for skin and hair to wash every other day or twice a week

[@jaybee4118]

@@Lady_dromedathey did the same in the 90s when I was your age. Basically anything younger people (mostly women) wear is always criticised.

[@71lizgoeshardt]

"Jane Eyre" being Regency and not Victorian is kinda blowing my mind, not gonna lie.

[@aliciavquinn]

Some are still divided on that, but I think it makes the most sense! I was definitely mind blown when first presented with that theory too haha

[@nataliatheweirdo]

i think of it as both tbh, my brain thinks its victorian but its set in the 1820’s 😭

[@thenablade858]

It’s set in the Georgian (regency) period. People think it’s Victorian because the films go this route + the book was published in the Victorian era.

[@cadr003]

Its crazy how short the Regency was compared to the Victorian, but the haters hated on the fashion far longer than entire duration of the era.

[@soneil7745]

It's just like the super-cinched "wasp waist" was only a thing for a decade or two, and here we are over a century later being like "GEEEAHHHHHHHH" I didn't realize it until someone else on KZbin (I wish I remembered who!) pointed it out. Then I was like 🤯 Until then, I thought that ultra-tight-lacing was as old as corsets.

[@RCZeta919]

I'm working at an 1820s historic site right now, and so the transition from Regency silhouettes into Victorian is taking up my entire brain. Thank you for a marvelous dissection of a fascinating topic!

[@aliciavquinn]

Wow, that sounds like such fun - so happy my video found its way to you!! Thanks for this comment 😊

[@71lizgoeshardt]

There's a passage in "Gone With the Wind" where Scarlett is reflecting on a portrait of her grandmother (or great grandmother?) and how scandalous she was, including wetting her petticoats so her dress would stick to her legs and her body shape was shown. And plus plus boobies.

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh nice catch!

[@zvezdoblyat]

Ew... Have you walked around in wet clothes before? That sounds horrible, especially with multiple layers

[@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi]

It's actually in Scarlett, not GWTW

[@kateb2643]

I can never get enough of fashion history. So glad I found you!

[@aliciavquinn]

This makes me so happy!!

[@dl2725]

This is fascinating… I’ve read so many “Regency Romances” in which the protagonists have values and perspectives imported from the time in which they were written (like, 90s flavoured feminist astride-riding cheroot-smoking liberated-but chaste-young women). I never realized that Charlotte Brontë did it first!

[@aliciavquinn]

Such a good observation! Perhaps the Regency woman has sometimes been used as a blank canvas to project upon

[@dl2725]

@@aliciavquinn I wasn't as into the western frontier, pirate or medieval costume romances, but I expect the authors projected modern sensibilities in the same way... or maybe there IS something about the Regency woman. Sitting in a parlour plying the only trades allowed--attracting a husband and commenting on one's peers--it's a particularly blank canvas...? 🤔

[@juanpr1989]

Congrats on your first long video! I enjoyed every bit of it. It's very interesting how a generation rejects the previous one in different ways. For future topic suggestions, as a music scholar, I'm interested in how you would approach the relation of fashion with opera, burlesque, and theater, from how people dressed for going to the opera to how costumes influenced fashion. Thanks for the great content!

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you so much!!! What a great suggestion - I’ll definitely give this some thought 😊 would be fun to research

[@KateKatastrophe]

Love the editing it's silly/funny without being over the top or distracting.

[@aliciavquinn]

Thanks for saying so! I’m still figuring out my style and editing in general, so that’s good to hear ☺️

[@lilykatmoon4508]

What a fascinating topic that I had never really considered before. I’m ashamed to admit, I’ve never read any of the Brontë’s while I’ve devoured Jane Austen. I’m making a resolution to read Jane Eyre this year. I’ve watched several biographies of the Brontë sisters last year, and I’m really interested in finally reading their body of works. I’ll go into it with the fashion history knowledge from this video. While I adore Jane Austen, Regency fashion isn’t my favorite silhouette. Bustle era and late Victorian fashion and 18th century are my favorite eras. It’s always a delight to discover that people share certain ways of thinking across time and space. To learn about the shade Victorians threw on the Regency Era, cracks me up. As far as away as those time periods can feel, people are people, aren’t they. I’m really enjoying your videos so far. Very educational and thought provoking. Great start!

[@charlotteb6450]

so shocked you're new to these sorts of videos, definitely earned a new subscriber!!

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you 🥹 I really appreciate it!

[@Littleme_iam]

im in 8th grade and i take fashion class, you talk like how our teacher talks, ima tell her to show this video! you are amazing

[@aliciavquinn]

Awee this is so sweet!!

[@Evan.280]

Super excited for the long form content! Looking as gorgeous as always ✨

[@aliciavquinn]

So kind of you!!

[@MuggleBornMom]

I came upon your channel just a few days ago & so glad I did! I couldn’t get enough….I immediately subscribed. I can’t get over how seamlessly you depict 60’s & 70’s (and all) vintage fashion. Your style and portrayal of the “characters” within your shorts are simply perfection … you have certainly found your calling! And now we have been blessed with your first full length video…congrats! Wishing you much success as you continue moving forward with one of the best channels I have ever watched ❤️

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you so much for this lovely comment! I read it several times over - can’t tell you how much that means and so glad you’re here.

[@pvp6077]

I'm about 11 mins in s and so far I've learned that the Regency Era was the "flower children hippies" and "micromini skirts and plastic dresses" generation, while the Victorians spanned from 80s powersuits to post millenial tradwives and alpha male podcasters. Intriguing.

[@yesinrealtechnicolor]

Keep going!! The first step in the roughest but the most important!!!

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you! It was a big learning curve, but I’m having fun with it now 😊

[@MesRevesEnRose]

Loved the video 💖 literally obsessed with your analysis. I was familiar with both fashion eras and read most books mentioned but literally never made the connection why the fashion had changed to be more conservative. Actually, for years I thought Regency fashion was the more recent of the two. I only learned a few years ago when I went to Victoria and Albert museum and they had a fashion timeline there but even then they didn't really explain and just said that technology advancement made it easier to get the Victorian shape. Your analysis is so much better than the guide we booked lol. Please do more of these!!! 💖

[@RedGingham]

Your voice is so pretty 💕 I can’t wait to watch this I love history

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you so much!

[@sabrinast-pierre3619]

sssooo we are pretty much living in the Victorian era with the return of the ''trad wife'' anxieties over new tech, social rigidity, and sicknesses? got it!! T_T

[@mattydems]

This was way more informational than I expected, in the best possible way 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@aliciavquinn]

So happy to see you here 🥰

[@keiththorpe9571]

Women going outside and touching grass for the first time in nearly a century in 1901: "Oh, it's everything I thought it would be, and more! NO, I WON'T GO BACK INTO THE PARLOR, AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!"

[@jakecavendish3470]

In Britain I think one of the biggest changes was the rise of Methodism- a lot of the upper middle classes and aristocracy, especially women, became Methodists in the late 1820s onwards and it led to a radical break with the perceiced amorailty/immorality of the Regency

[@karanoia-agent]

Love your knowledge in these matters! I think it’s important to remember that colleges and universities were about learning and not just using a degree to get a job. Thank you for educating us!

[@jazbean]

This was so funny and really well written! a future topic could be a similar look into edwardian fashion and the transition into 1920s flapper style, i feel like there was an equivalent shift in societal values around that time, it could make another interesting video? 🩵

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you kindly! Oh I’d love to explore that - part of my dissertation discussed the origin of Art Deco and the transition into 1920s fashion 🥰 thanks for the suggestion

[@jessisamess4062]

i love this video so much! i had no idea about this phenomenon before, and I also had no idea there was scholarship about the anachronistic dress in Vanity Fair. exciting stuff!

[@aliciavquinn]

Ahhh thank you so much!!

[@Rachelle660]

Can’t believe this is your first video! Girl, you snapped 😂👏

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you so much! 😭🫶🏻

[@emmarose8760]

Such a great video !! very excited for another historical fashion channel in the new year, can't wait for your next one 🫶🫶

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you so much! 🥹🫶🏻 I’m so excited to keep going

[@AmberOrtolano]

I’m sooooo sick rn so thank you for the entertainment and education queen 😌🧡🧡🧡

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh Amber how I adore you!!! Hope you feel better soon, queen 🥹🫶🏻

[@Gabis_vintage]

ALICIA! I was SOOOO EXCITED TO SEE THIS on my YT page! GO OFFFFFFF

[@aliciavquinn]

AHHH GABI!! This just made me so happy 😭♥️

[@MorganChaos]

Congrats on your first full length video! I don't think I've ever been this early to a youtuber I'm gonna love, this is very exciting for me. I don't know if this is quite in your wheelhouse or interests you, but I'm fascinated by the history of childbirth, breastfeeding, and menstruation management and how that all related to clothing. I know we've all heard that aristocratic women never breastfed, but surely SOMEONE did, right? In what eras could stays just be not laced as tightly for pregnancy/unlaced for breastfeeding and who, if anyone, had specific maternity wear? What was even going on with periods??

[@aliciavquinn]

What a lovely compliment! Truly made me smile, because I’ve had that exact feeling before and I can’t believe someone has said so about me 🥹 thank you. And absolutely would love to do a video on that topic!

[@maryhamric]

I loved this video down to the painting showing the coral beaded necklace. *chef's kiss*

[@songsofsusannah]

I've always wondered, why would women be willing to give up the comfort and ease of motion of Regency clothing for the up to 40 pounds of underwear worn by upper-class Victorian women just before the advent of the cage crinoline. The only explanation I've ever come up with is, "Conspicuous consumption." It's interesting to learn that the next generation actually found Regency clothing indecent. Aesthetically, the Regency era isn't my favorite, but I cannot deny how practical the clothing was. The most practical Western women's clothing since the supportive kirtle, in my opinion.

[@aliciavquinn]

Conspicuous consumption absolutely played a role, as well! I think a lot of Victorian fashion is beautiful, but yeah, I’d rather take Regency fashion any day.

[@saberchild]

love how much nuance you give to every point

[@aliciavquinn]

Such a compliment thank you

[@MegaHello202]

I love history but admittedly don’t know a lot about fashion history so this video was very interesting. Looking forward to more videos

[@aliciavquinn]

Thanks so much!!

[@stephengreen-dowden9068]

Hi, great video. I love the regency period. My area of historical study is 19th British period.

[@iancampbell8143]

This is amazing! I am liking, sharing, AND ringing that bell!

[@aliciavquinn]

Aweee bestie!!! 🥹🫶🏻

[@MesRevesEnRose]

Omg I'm usually one to find past fashion cute because I always judge it in the historical context it belongs to. Like for example, I KNOW that tribal print black and white dress was SERVING in 2012 because I had the same one. 🤣 And those patterned wedge shoes? So cute in 2013! Comfortable, would look cute with skinny jeans but adds a POP to the outfit. I know you got compliments back then!!! 😂 So that's usually my vibe when seeing outfits from the past but recently ny mom went to my old high school and sent me a photo of me in my classes grad portrait which they hang atound the school. Omg my 2011 emo-inspired side bangs and under eye black liner made me want to scratch my eyes out and die. 😂 Because I was literally like I know how these new kids see me 🙈 they're judging my ugly ass hair just like I meanly judged every graduate's from the 80s. 😭

[@gasstationcandy]

I love mid 18th century fashion and the more dour, quirky "Victorian" era, it's fashion and literature/art but I do dislike how as time goes on we lambaste and roast was used to be. It's why I struggle with being a hater because what I might dislike someone might cherish. I love learning about the past and how often it reflects the present.

[@billdunlop2390]

Thank you! That was so interesting I love content like this.

[@aliciavquinn]

I appreciate you!!

[@-Reagan]

The transparent black corset over the long sleeve pirate shirt is such a good look that I know it’s going to be both cringeworthy and then be admired as iconic in future generations

[@aliciavquinn]

LMAO 😭😭 some older women have already commented how much they hate it

[@loric1103]

I love that you posted a full length video! This was very interesting and I can't wait for the next one ❤

[@aliciavquinn]

Thanks so much for watching!! I’m excited to start my next one haha

[@Kdkdleeme]

So eloquently spoken!

[@Kdkdleeme]

Tu parles français?

[@aliciavquinn]

merci bien! oui, l'ai étudié pendant environ 11 ans...je dois vraiment le pratiquer maintenant. mais j'adore le français!!

[@pmcfarlain]

This was so interesting to put on in the background while embroidering! I love listening to you talk!

[@aliciavquinn]

Such a lovely comment thank you!

[@jennissimo3520]

really interesting topic and examples! i subscribed 😊 if i could suggest one technical thing, it would be great to change your mic settings or something to reduce the echo from recording in such an open space. i don't know if other people have this problem but it makes it more difficult for me at least to focus/properly take in the information when the audio is less clear. it wasn't unlistenable by any means but it would make it easier to absorb the content of the video 😊

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you very much - happy to have you here! Oh yes, this was just a temporary filming location and as aforementioned, I had some mic issues and quite the learning curve 😅 Thankfully, should be resolved by next video!

[@jennissimo3520]

@@aliciavquinn completely understandable! good luck with your next videos 😄

[@Du-Masses]

I thought I knew Jane Eyre but missed that it may have been set during the regency. That time period would make sense with Rochester as a Byronic figure...cool.

[@aliciavquinn]

I didn’t even think of that - totally!

[@pilarvellante4081]

So awesome! Love this content

[@aliciavquinn]

Omg thank you, Pilar Vellante!

[@nat-ff4rg]

PLESEPLEASELPEASEEEEE DO THAT VIDEO DEBUNKING MYTHS !!! btw i loved this video so much, i'm reallyreallyreallyyyy looking forward to seeing more videos like this!

[@lucymodmontgomery4108]

Ahh yes, I fondly recall how DELICIOUSLY slutty we all were in the Regency era! Got to start bringing back some of these *lewks* in 2024!

[@rodmaher194]

This was great! Proud of you! Glad you achieved your new years resolution in the end. 😅👏

[@aliciavquinn]

Thanks so much!!

[@piccalillipit9211]

*WISHING YOU LIUCK WITH THE LONG FORM VIDEOS* this seemed really well researched and presented, not a subject that fascinates me but I subscribed as I am sure you will cover subjects that DO fascinate me...!!!

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you so much! 🥹🫶🏻

[@piccalillipit9211]

@@aliciavquinn The very best of luck for 2024..!!!

[@arionrhod6383]

I love the video, especially your analysis of Jane Eyre! Fascinating topic, I look forward to seeing more of your videos!

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you very much ☺️

[@alr49]

would love to see the debunking myths video you mentioned. loved this!

[@imbluedubbadee]

"This is gonna get a little bit long" Cut to me watching a 4 hour video on a kids cartoon from the early 2000's that ive never even watched

[@aliciavquinn]

That’s so real 😭

[@nothingbutfleurs]

i loved this i hope you make more full length videos ❤️

[@rocketpost1]

Very well researched Alicia, this must have taken you ages. I only watched this because your shorts (films) make me laugh and you seem fixated on the 60s and 70s. I'm not interested in fashion but found this an interesting record of the attitudes of the time and not forgetting of course that women are still repressed in many parts of the world today. It would be interesting for you to explore the fashions of the 60s and 70s along with the great music of the time. If I have one minor criticism, it's that you talk rather fast for an old geezer like me so I set the playback speed to 0.75 which was perfect. Thanks.

[@aliciavquinn]

Thanks for watching and commenting! 60s and 70s are my personal favorite to emulate, but my fashion history studies were varied (although I have my favorite eras and biases, of course). Definitely more to come - inclusive of 60s and 70s and music 😊 And that’s funny - some people around my age have complained that I speak too slowly haha go figure. Thanks again.

[@ritamartins927]

You only have one fashion history video?? give us more!!

[@aliciavquinn]

Many more en route!

[@hannahborriello8770]

Excited to be here! Can't wait for your next video :)

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you, Hannah ☺️

[@koolkidasaurusrex]

Great first long video! Can’t wait to see what else you make. Definitely subscribing.

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you so much!

[@Sparkling34]

your hair is so pretty. you look reminiscent of a porcelain doll

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you!

[@theginger7910]

Great work!

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you kindly!

[@LeeEisPrettyStrange]

So excited this exists

[@sheleavitt06]

Do the debate about what time frame the Anne of Green Gables books take place.

[@aliciavquinn]

I’m looking into this immediately

[@71lizgoeshardt]

Wait. But "Rilla of Ingleside" is WWI. I didn't know there was any debate possible?

[@sheleavitt06]

It’s over if Anne was born in 1860s or 1880s basically

[@elisaesperante6805]

Fascinating video!! Loved it

[@TVandManga]

Really interesting.

[@Nattyzeenha]

Love thiiis! Thanks YT for recommending!

[@secstraus]

Happy to watch anything you've already got in the queue, but if you're looking for brainstorming ideas, I would love a discussion of the forces at work in retro fashion. I was very interested in your comments on the return to Regency styles for young girls after the Victorians vilified them for adult women in previous decades. I'm thinking of the revival of Art Nouveau and Medieval references in the 1960's and the Neo-Victorian elements of the 1980s. What drives aesthetics to return and why do we take some elements (00's ultra low rise) and leave others behind (00's being orange)?

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you so much! I definitely plan to visit those topics on here. My research interests mostly lie within 20th century revivalist styles and their inspirations. I actually wrote my dissertation on the Art Deco revival of the 1960s and 1970s ☺️ I also collect and wear vintage fashion, and 60s medieval revival is one of my all time favs! The revisitation of Art Nouveau and the rise of neomedievalism in fashion and music alongside the counterculture movement especially fascinate me. So definitely some revival fashion content on the horizon.

[@secstraus]

I'm so excited! Subscribed and ready to see what's next!

[@unelm0ija]

Really great video for your first long form one! ❤ The audio does have some echo/breaking when you raise your Voice and s-sounds are a bit sharp. Some things that could help without switching any equipment; filming in a smaller room, adding some more textiles/stuff around, changing The distance from The microphone, avoiding/monitoring Voice peaking 😊 Hoping to see More quality content like this from you 🤩

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you so much! Oh yes, this was a temporary filming location and as aforementioned I had some issues with that mic 😅 all should be resolved in the next video, thankfully! So excited to keep going 😊

[@Natilra]

You said the adaptations of Jane Eyre tend to go for the Victorian publication date for costuming inspiration. But hearing you talk so much about Vanity Fair made me wonder what you make of the costumes in the 2004 film - did they follow Regency or Victorian style or neither?

[@aliciavquinn]

Vanity Fair (2004) definitely goes for Regency! It’s not entirely accurate, but it’s fun ☺️

[@seroquelchamber]

you have a very easy voice to listen to, i like the long content

[@aliciavquinn]

That’s so very kind 🥹 thank you

[@emilyrln]

God damn, this was fascinating! 👏✨

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you kindly!!

[@yurironoue5888]

A common theme across the examples you've given is men complaining about what women are wearing and how they presented themselves and casting unfair moral judgements about their sartorial choices. Something men and pick-me conservative women have never stopped doing, across time and cultures. I love the Empire silhouette, but I also Iove Victorian fashion. Everything between 1400-1889 really. I'm just a 🏳️‍🌈 guy who loves period fashion and I believe that women should dress however they like , without nosy moral police casting moral judgements on their choice of dress. I mean, that example you showed about the artist mocking what women wore, whether they wore modest Victorian fashion or the more liberating Empire silhouette and casting judgement on their character based on that (the salacious Vs excessive, no way to win conundrum that Women have been subjected to by fickle patriarchal norms. Why did these men care so much, it's difficult to make any sense of it, tbh!) Women should have been allowed to choose whatever style suited them best without fearing judgement from society. Fashion can be enjoyed best without the weight of the fear of social judgement weighing the people down, regardless of gender.

[@lakaperse6995]

The worst in all of that is that fashion industry is shaped by men especially fashion for women . It is practically gaslighting.

[@hshi8085]

this was such a cute vid! i’ll subscribe lol. i think you might be getting funneled all the mina lee fans haha your video was recommended to me after watching one of hers

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you! That makes me so happy I adore Mina 🥰

[@lola.millard17]

i would be so interested in your debunking idea!! i’m so glad to see you trying new ways of videos!! i think you should mayybeee try a podcast too?? also you’d make an AMAZING history teacher if you were interested in that!! 🩷🩷

[@aliciavquinn]

So kind of you 😭 thanks for this comment and your suggestions!

[@haruno21]

I don't like the typical regency dress because I hate the empire cut.... So unflattering

[@aliciavquinn]

I honestly love it 🥲 especially the 1810s

[@ianthompson3282]

You made that very interesting learnt something new today thank you

[@aliciavquinn]

I’m so glad - thanks for watching!

[@jennaroark]

Long form fashion history yes yes yes 🫶🏻

[@Lilas.Duveteux]

Well, the early 1800s fashion in France, to my knowledge, was more mocked for showing skin and having short hair (Frenchwomen cut their hair short in the Titus fashion, and in a very messy haircut at that) than anything else. Also, it's quite ironic that the silhouette and fashion in France appeared more as a response to XVIIIth century sexual and feminine liberation, and that Napoleon himself, coming from Corse, implemented the values of this part of the world into his Civil Code.

[@aliciavquinn]

Indeed, though not super ubiquitous, such hairstyles amongst elite women dressing à la grecque were an expression of agency and liberation. Of course, no woman was free from her contemporaries mocking her! Here’s a great academic journal article on the topic: Cage, E. Claire. "The Sartorial Self: Neoclassical Fashion and Gender Identity in France, 1797-1804." Eighteenth-Century Studies 42, no. 2 (2009): 193-215. doi.org/10.1353/ecs.0.0039.

[@MrAranton]

NO! My grandfathers both spent much of their youth wearing various third Reich uniforms and I absolutely do NOT gravitate that way!

[@AhmedSamir-rx7dy]

I think I am about to be your fan

[@showersinger38]

35 minutes isn't that long compared to most of what's in my feed!

[@aliciavquinn]

Same! Did a lot of necessary editing down, thankfully 😅

[@austinroberts4008]

Were you born a fascinating person , or did you train yourself to be that way at some point in your life ?

[@seandunoon]

❤

[@shavellyn]

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[@Kairi98503]

I think this is just another 'time is cyclical' moment. The younger generation making fun of/judging/denouncing their parents & grandparents fashion, only for their kids to bring it back or at least take inspiration from it. I mean look at the Y2K fashion boom, alot of people in their mid to late twenties made fun of alot of those older fashions, the jinko jeans, goopy lip gloss, gawdy layering, whale tails, etc. but now gen z are bringing them back in ways that give previous generations war flashbacks to when they were new. I might be happening a lot quicker now but this is just another human nature thing at this point lol

[@aliciavquinn]

That’s a great observation, and what you’re describing is the fashion cycle, but this is not “just” that (truthfully, that language feels a bit reductionist and dismissive of the research I have done, not saying you meant it that way, but I digress). The Victorian reaction was absolutely reflective of an emerging social reform and reveals much more about evolving perceptions of gender, identity, and society on both individual and collective scales. Not merely aesthetically motivated, but neither is the fashion cycle and reactions that you describe, of course! My academic research mostly lies in 20th century revivalist styles and their inspirations, so I’d love to cover the current y2k revival and the 1970s revival that occurred during Y2K, as well ☺️

[@Kairi98503]

@@aliciavquinn oh yeah I did not mean to be reductionist, more of just giving an example of how this is something that continues to this day. As putting history in the context of common behaviors that have been present through time can help make the past less distant and grander then it really was. Putting yourself in your ancestors shoes so we can understand how things happened the way it did. Cause we are all the same guys doing things throughout time, if they did it we also do it, just within the context of our technological era and culture. I would say that current generations making fun of the previous generations clothing would have the similar ideas of emerging social reform as is described in your video. As each generation has different social norms and expectations for everyone that evoles (for better or for worse) as time goes on. With Y2K fashion you had a notable weight shaming culture, white washing, and weird homopobia culture that was a result of the rampantly centrist politics of the time. Which refused to challenge anything too much as everyone tried to avoid being 'too political' in polite society. That same culture was then baked into everything, though for this conversation the focus is the fashion and beauty industries. Young gen x and old millennials wound up in a fashion land scape that was only interested in super skinny, white (or at least lighter complexion), visually sexy (but not sexually active), super fashionable, hyper independent and successful teens to young adults. Which lead to a whole slew of issues as that generation tried to desperately achieve these desired looks, which lead to looks that later generations would find questionable. Which then leads into younger millennials & older gen Z to looking back of the older fashions in a less the favorable light, posing the questions that would not have been acceptable at the time. While simultaneously starting or building up previously existing movements to celebrate the things left out of flat out shamed in that pervious culture. As well call out/change issues the previous gen refused to speak on, let alone challenge. But then younger gen z comes along and takes those same fashions that caused their grandparents or even parents so much grief. Adopting them in a manner that reflects the newer social norms while making the old general aesthetic their own. I hope that better explains my admittedly sloppy comment. As always the fashion speaks to the era it was created in, as fashion is not created in a vacuum. So yeah, look forward to more videos! ^v^

[@aliciavquinn]

@@Kairi98503 thanks for this super thoughtful and detailed comment! I’m saving for if/when I do end up making a video on that topic (ofc will credit you😊), as you’ve hit on some great points and I really appreciate these observations. I always love looking at fashion and zeitgeist and how trends may reflects deeper social issues, identity, etc. I’ve noticed nostalgia of all kinds (beyond the general trend cycle) has been a consistent theme throughout the 2020s so far - in fashion history, I find that’s usually the case when people are seeking refuge from chaos and uncertainty. Escapism at its finest!

[@Julathegreat]

Psst. Can you post those names of those two Painters in a comment and pin it? I'd love to look at more of their work

[@aliciavquinn]

Hi! Which painters do you mean? All of my sources and images are cited in the indicated link in my description 😊 hope that’s helpful

[@xMissPegasusx]

Okay but there is irony in you shaming yourself for what you wore 10 years ago 👀

[@aliciavquinn]

that was the whole point of the joke😅

[@bettyboop-ip2ql]

ACK YAY IVE BEEN FOLLOWING U ON INSTA AND THIS VID EATS. WE LOVE AUSTENCORE

[@aliciavquinn]

Ahhhh yay!!! 🥰

[@connerbdelgado]

I love how cultural context heavy this video is!! that was my favorite part to read about when I studied art history. I literally bookmarked the sources so I can devour them later.

[@aliciavquinn]

Ah thanks!! Art history nerds always find each other haha

[@theoriginalsuzycat]

I was listening and when i heard "Jane Eyre is set in the Victorian period" I was all NO IT WAS NOT BLANCHE ET AL HAD TURBANS ETC and i was so relieved to hear you refute it!!!

[@aliciavquinn]

“Blanche et al” LMAOOO

[@MesRevesEnRose]

Also now I can't help but make the connection with the rise of AI and climate change with the rise of TradWife/Coquette/Barbie aesthetic or even the Cottage Core/Homestead aesthetics. Or if we want to go further, the return of authoritarian governments. People are scared and there are definitely signs social regression. People want to be reassured and told what to do. Young people are romanticizing the past when things were 'simpler'. I'm a young millennial (93) but I remember the late 90s/00s when there was still excitement about the future and that was reflected in futuristic fashion and in movies like Zenon and Smart House. I think we're the last recent generation of teens that were actually optimistic about the future. 💀

[@ladylongsleeves3175]

Absolutely

[@pisceanbeauty2503]

Yup, and it’s kind of scary to see a younger generation in some ways becoming more conservative than past ones.

[@arielslack7015]

That’s true I’m an Xlenial We were very optimist back then

[@arielslack7015]

@@pisceanbeauty2503that because the have to deal with things we didn’t have to

[@no.1appastan]

Went to go binge the rest of your videos after loving this one and literally cried when i saw this was your only one 😢😢😢 pls pls pls post again as soon as you can!! Youre amazing!! ❤

[@aliciavquinn]

Oh thank you so much!! Working on the next one now and planning many, many more 🥰

[@toysforboysrc]

You’re sooooo pretty my gosh 🤪 your beauty triangle is literally diamond cut to perfection. You remind me of my pre-teen niece personality and all.

[@HeyCo_okie]

Loved every second of this. I love watching videos on fashion/dress history, especially while I'm sewing, it's like it's own weird version of ASMR. Please make more long vids! 💜

[@aliciavquinn]

Made me smile - I wish I could sew! Thank you and definitely more to come 🥰

[@drsalka]

Seconding that^^ - was literally sewing a pair of leggings myself as I listened (and got a bit less ignorant in the process) to this great "lecture". Hopefully she can make more videos similar to this one.

[@soneil7745]

All this condemnation must have been bizarre for Regency women as they got older and fashions changed. I wonder if this is how ex-flappers felt when seeing their daughters and granddaughters grow up in the fifties.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

Flapper era was pretty brief as was regency (although a bit longer). The earlier gens were still there to influence both eras so they would always have heard of criticism

[@imaginationsmusic1985]

*you naming the things you didn't like* Me: well at least you look beautiful no matter what. I on the other hand always look like a dead baboon or seagull 💀 no offense to baboons and seagulls☝

[@user-ilovemrfahrenheit]

girl ur so pretty i cant 😭(coming from a fellow girl not a creep 💀)

[@aliciavquinn]

Thank you you’re so sweet 🥹

[@evelinapushkash6827]

Just to let you know Face: flawless Hair: fabulous Voice: pleasant Outfit: awesome Keep up, I subscribed ❤❤ 2024 will be your year!

[@aliciavquinn]

So very kind!! Thanks for being here 🥹🫶🏻