The Victorious Iceberg

[@hey-zel]

A Victorious ice berg?! Hell yeah!!!

[@luanminitti1177]

That’s what I said!

[@Kikidy523]

The whole thing about Jade enjoying pain, I'm assuming it's in reference to the line "This is actually causing me pain, and not the good kind." It’s a reference to BDSM, not cutting.

[@zayan.zzz1]

what’s bdsm

[@Kikidy523]

@@zayan.zzz1 sado-masichism and bondage.

[@zayan.zzz1]

@@Kikidy523 i swear dats a category in hentai 😂

[@SCh33sycake]

The Tori is dead theory really makes me think. She likely isn’t, because it’s nick and I highly doubt they’d kill of Tori 😭. However it is very interesting to think about maybe made a hair on my arm lift

[@Pine3D]

We actually see the whole Hollywood arts gang minus Trina in Sam and Cat. While they’re clearly not actually the actors, they are seen facing a wall as part of an acting lesson taught by Simowitz

[@thecoolmavin64-mz7bm]

It would be another meaning of victorious

[@sildjax]

emotional seeing the nickelodeon on sunset studio building being demolished, so many masterpieces filmed in there

[@maddiemorales1419]

About the tori being dead theory, theres actually a sam and cat ep that debunks it cuz she sorta made a cameo...kinda...so theres a scene where they go to mr sikowitz and the whole cast including tori were facing the wall. I mean, her face wasnt shown at all, it was barely for a minute and it obviously wasnt actually victoria justice there, but it sorta proves shes still alive...

[@ArcDeity]

Do you know what episode it was cause to me this sounds like some creepypasta stuff 😅

[@maddiemorales1419]

@@ArcDeity I don't know the exact name of the ep but it's the one where groomers mum comes to visit him

[@mybuffysummers]

Beck definitely enjoyed specifically John in this episode

[@possum1093]

If I saw this and never watched victorious I'd think the show was similar to Euphoria or something.

[@erikcubias]

I've been thinking about how they should revive the show. Either they could do an "iCarly" where it's the same cast grown up, but that's unlikely considering Ariana and Leon have become really famous and busy. Or they could do a "Bel Air" where it's a darker version of the same show with a new younger cast, and some of these theories become reality.

[@Daniel-bj4lz]

Amazing Video.

[@ElsaAdventures]

i think you should do a iceberg on frozen

[@LaurenG]

Ooooh, that sounds interesting. I just searched up the iceberg and I found one online so I may do this one after my finals are done. Thanks for the suggestion!! :)

[@ElsaAdventures]

@@LaurenG ok you’re welcome

[@maddiemorales1419]

38:00 this ligit was in character for cat but tori on the other hand...she deffo seemed on something

[@m0istur]

For that one topic about tori getting plot armor despite other characters actually doing better reminds me of this one video I watched talking about why Disney Channel making music stars was done better than Nickelodeon when they were trying to do that too. Really interesting video because it seemed like when talking about victorious, Nickelodeon focused too much on trying to make a star out of Victoria justice and it kinda blinded them from seeing the talents the other actors like Elizabeth Giles and Ariana Grande had

[@maddiemorales1419]

45:14 this made me squeamish!!! I can't watch that scene the same

[@Goddesso-qn5ch]

Hiiiiiii Lauren i hope you can do an iceberg video on BNA

[@lunalto293]

Every time I think I'm away from Victorious a new video always comes to my attention and drags me back in... The iceberg for Victorious is more interesting than the iceberg for really any Nickelodeon show that I know of. It's possibly the most controversial Schneider show with drama surrounding almost every part of its existence, from start to premature finish. In many respects, given Schneider's penchant for putting uh...let's say esoteric material in his shows, Victorious probably displays his sensibilities (as a writer and as a person) more plainly than any of his other work. That's not to say it's his best show (opinions vary, I personally think the writing in Drake and Josh is stronger) but more that Victorious embodies the best and the worst of Dan Schneider the creator. That makes sense since it came out when he was treated like the King of Nickelodeon - a consequence of how wildly successful his previous shows were. As a result, it seems the network were willing to either facilitate or more likely turn a blind eye to everything else he was (allegedly) up to. It is fitting then and appropriately meta that Victorious, his show with the most bizarre episodes, running gags, storylines, scenes and characters has created an equally weird, funny and, in some cases, dark iceberg. The fallout from this show and the drama surrounding it can almost be considered, say it with me now, "the true season 4 of Victorious". (Sorry for the essay) Great job on the video and impressive that you got it out in a day - for anyone who doesn't know, that's not easy!

[@LaurenG]

Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed it!!🥰 and you really nailed it with this essay😂

[@realkingofantarctica]

Caught you, brosk!

[@leeneey]

to be more specific Victoria is English German and Irish on her fathers side and her mother is of Puerto Rican decent but was born in the states in the bronx new york. since the video only broadly said "European" and Puerto Rican.

[@nightcrawler8864]

They were describing her character lol

[@leeneey]

@@nightcrawler8864 and your point? IF they were which no i do not think they were weird how it lines up EXACTLY with her real ethnicity... so i further explained her background. you just corrected nothing. lol yourself.

[@nightcrawler8864]

@@leeneey it's so funny how I can come on this app to comment something not that deep on a video that isn't that deep and get a response like this back. We're talking about Victorious LOL relax

[@leeneey]

@@nightcrawler8864 nothing i said was "deep" im sorry that you made you made a comment that was incorrect and someone corrected you? maybe you need to chill because like you said it aint that deep.

[@thomasdinsmore5866]

Question how come sinjin wasn’t a member of cast

[@rheaabangma3157]

But wasn’t tori in that one sam and cat episodes where Goomer’s mum came to Seattle .

[@mtanning]

Kinda.. in that episode they go to class and the main cast was doing a "backwards acting" challenge but they were played by different ppl

[@velamars4980]

the victorious cancellation ariana and victoria feud definitively contributed to the flopping of victoria's career even though it was proven that ariana made that up. i was in the trenches when that happened and ariana's comment made absolutely no sense beacuse the tour victoria went on was the summer break tour with big time rush, a nickelodeon thing. i think they later proved that the reason for the cancellation was a mix up with a tv provider that stopped airing the shows, but the damage was done.

[@LaurenG]

@@velamars4980 exactly!! Her fandom (and others) ran with a rumor and it contributed to why Victorias career may have not been as high as it should’ve. (That and maybe some treatment from the executives added to that)

[@hejti3894]

9:43 what?????? THAT GIRL WAS TRYING TO SAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP SO HARD

[@rockythewerepuppy2253]

14:51 what saving people if thats her talent then she should quit singing and be a superhero or something not to be mean i just thought that line was funny

[@lakyak]

Whats the name of Music for the final layer?

[@LaurenG]

Here’s the link to the audio👍: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKO4cn-vfNNsg9Usi=DOuJ-KhqCigtW42t

[@lakyak]

Thanks!

[@niasiamack9333]

Hi Lauren are you autistic because i am autistic also i enjoyed the victorious iceberg i did not know it was gonna be dark

[@LaurenG]

Hi!! To answer your question, no I’m not autistic. I’m glad you enjoyed the video🥰

[@AgussxVenus]

this went from Victorious Iceberg to Let's call Ariana a homewrecker.

[@LaurenG]

I didnt call her anything, I went based off what ACTUALLY happened- And it was only brought up cuz many online had speculated that Victoria was not the mean one but that Ariana MAY HAVE been the mean one because she doesn’t seem like a girls girl-

[@AgussxVenus]

@@LaurenG you literally said "homewrecker" waaay too many times while explaining an iceberg that has nothing to do with the allegations (which means there's no proof of anything in case you didn't know)

[@LaurenG]

@@AgussxVenus last I checked his ex wife spoke out-😗 but believe what u want

[@AgussxVenus]

@@LaurenG they recently updated the article to say the claims are baseless and that Ethan's ex wife didn't talk to anybody for an article and that she was shocked but you clearly only want to hate on somebody for no reason ✨ but anyway stream - yes, and? 💋

[@sarahthomas8670]

Fr

[@leeneey]

ariana really seemed like a brat back then and even today kind of comes off very snobby. i know people takes sides with her against Victoria or whatever if they did have beef but the fact that she also butted heads with jennette who i absolutely believe her account. i dont think it is a coincidence that drama on set seemed to follow her from show to show.

[@4kpiper]

this video feels like an Ariana hate video disguised as a victorious video. especially the parts abt Ariana's behavior the truth is no one is perfect we all have days where we feel annoyed , don't try to have a moral high ground. Ariana can be annoyed at theme parks if she wants too she has been through a lot (Manchester, Mac Miller, Nick its self). Also the homewrecker rumors have been debunked (i can send article if needed). Ariana doesn't owe anyone anything. there are bigger issues.

[@LaurenG]

@@4kpiper I promise that wasn’t my intention. The main reason I brought up what I did regarding Ariana was due to the alleged feud that Victoria and Ariana had. I also brought up the home wrecking allegations because people started questioning whether Victoria was the problem in the alleged feud. This video was made BEFORE the “homewrecking rumor was debunked.” Hope this cleared things up!👍

[@piss7610]

all that just to say youre a fan. You can like her music lmao, she still is a bad person. Did you forget "yes and?" shitty of ari but a banger