The viral 'Horizon Zero Dawn' rip-off is worse than you think...

[@LukeStephensTV]

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[@BostonWells]

There’s some Kena bridge of spirits in there to protagonist is a girl with a bow brunette as well 😂

[@gospodindpakoh4200]

Well, i mean... i played The First Descendant which is basically rip off of Warframe right to the third letter after (dot)... and was having fun until burned out after 800 hours. It is not specifically bad thing.

[@Infotainment-cb6cy]

Is this a joke? Horizon zero Dawn SUCKS ASS and was RUINED by SONY - i'll take THIS HERE any day over the original.

[@SpadeApeiron]

13:08-14:42 ~ bro The literally exact thing Dragon Age Veilguard was looking for any average gamer. Meanwhile you were so high on it thats what's funny now. People who said "dragon age the Veilguard" is dogshit game which nobody will like or talk about with just a Trailer ( turned out 80-90% true ) & you were the one say "Please let the game release 1st don't judge it before the game comes Out" XD now how the turn tables Jesus man

[@vogue43]

Unless they lifted actual content from other games there's no copyright case here.

[@midarch]

best twitter comment on this situation: copyright in China means the right to copy

[@Danmtl008]

Thats a Facebook boomer ass joke lol

[@Zal0vid]

But they aren't wrong

[@Wackaz]

Having no IP laws is based.

[@VampireNoblesse]

Hollywood superhero battle scenes are ALL copy past straight out of Naruto Shippuden^^...

[@leandro6234]

Based China.

[@unvergebeneid]

I actually liked that you never see the apocalypse directly in Horizon. You only see the stories the people who knew they'd die left behind. Really great choice. It would've been so easy to have some flashy action flashbacks or something. But the eerie effect of puzzling together the story from bits and pieces dead people left behind is _so_ much more effective. So yeah, shocker the knock-off goes straight into an action cut scene of the apocalypse.

[@MD-vs9ff]

You get to hear the apocalypse in a few of the audio data points. Admirable restraint in that story telling.

[@langlest]

It's funny that they kept the red reeds, they only made sense as hiding spots in ZD because Aloy has red hair

[@richardmartinez5040]

Sony has been terrible these last few years, but I hope they sue on behalf of Gorilla Games. There’s blatant copying here

[@_ultraviolence1503]

​@@richardmartinez5040 actually the official PlayStation account in china promoted this game and said there will be more collaborations in the future.Guess Tencent really paid a big load

[@MostCommentsOnYouTubeAreAiBOTS]

I think it’s also hilarious they named it “Light of Motiram,” not realizing that for eons we have had an over-the-counter PMS medicine for women in the USA called Motrim. 😂

[@chaledy8998]

Wait... that's the reason?? I never connected the two things?!

[@richardmartinez5040]

@@chaledy8998 you’re not supposed to! That’s what good world design is all about. People are saying copy cats like these are good for competition, but aren’t realizing that horizon is by far the superior product

[@jadeusdragias]

Game Director: Okay we need to make a game. Any Ideas? Dev 1: I like Horizon Zero Dawn Dev 2: I like Monster Hunter Dev 3: I like Palworld Game Director: alright let’s combine them.

[@BU683AR]

seems like they're gonna create a masterpiece.❤

[@bulldogsrulez15]

Add Ark to it lol

[@enochianbard9411]

Omg not another comparing it to Palworld before ARK💀😂

[@MadmanMac2001]

The irony that Palworld iteself is a very similar product already in market did not even cross your mind ??

[@MrMathias327]

"It seems, then, that the expression 'copyright infringement' doesn't translate terribly well into Mandarin." - Jeremy Clarkson

[@TommyCrosby]

When you copy the homework of all the class at the same time:

[@questworldmatrix]

And then later find out it goes beyond and breaks the initial perceptions of being a rip off when the narrative and gameplay changes.

[@ARandomLetterA]

More like when you copy the nuclear weapon data and deffect to the soviet union.

[@coolguyenglish4484]

⁠@@questworldmatrix”when the narrative and gameplay changes” Normally you release a game that doesn’t need to do all off that.

[@tnerty6087]

So it was okay for Palworld to do this same thing but not okay for this game? I want some consistency.

[@rajeshVengadesan]

Like youtube and Instagram copying tik tok ?

[@somethingsomethingsomethingdar]

A Chinese company ripped off another companies intellectual property?! NO WAY!

[@Quizack]

Luke: yOu cAnT mAkE tHiS uP! Bro! This is just what China does.

[@tjroelsma]

China's been doing this for decades and when called out on it, Chinese officials laugh in your face and say "prove that our brilliant Chinese engineers didn't come up with this spontaneously", ask Dell or other companies that have seen their proprietary tech copied when they moved production to China.

[@arksy8703]

​@@tjroelsma they even copied the US Airforce's F-35 with the J-35. They have no shame.

[@Calibre-s3g]

@@arksy8703 lol and it probably looks great and all, but we all know that what's actually under the hood is just plastic and glue holding it all together. Made to look genuine on the outside, complete crap on the inside like always.

[@MadDeuceJuice]

That’s the cost they paid for outsourcing jobs to China

[@Shot4ShotPhoto]

“Pokémon With Guns With Robots With Tribes”

[@snowvamp528]

nah fr tho

[@Infotainment-cb6cy]

Which sold about 10x better than pkmn scarlet btw.

[@alexs29]

Horizon Zero ARK: Pokemon Pals of Rubicon

[@datbunneh3671]

With red weeds you can sneak in.

[@chiquita683]

People act like Turok didnt exist

[@Axel-Jett]

Horizon: Zero Dawn ❌ Vertical: Infinity Dusk ✅ Horizon: Forbidden West ❌ Vertical: Permitted East ✅

[@LoneChipmunk]

I think you mean Vertica

[@Kenny-yl9pc]

You mean Holizon: Zelo Don

[@armedwombat6816]

Starring famous heroine Amalgamation.

[@datbunneh3671]

Point Blank instead of Vertical probably.

[@blackscorpionstinger]

@@Kenny-yl9pc ching chong ling ting tong

[@HuhWaitWhatNow]

Tencent devs: what's our budget? Tencent management: ten cent.

[@zuriyel5368]

If it's set to be released on Playstation as Luke said, wouldn't that mean that Sony's already approved of this? Unless the developers got ahead of themselves by announcing this prior to getting approval from Sony.

[@quademasters249]

You can't copyright "similar robots". As long as the story is different and the bots aren't identical. I'm not seeing the problem. Anyone can make an open world robot game.

[@zuriyel5368]

@@quademasters249 I feel the same way. I just find Luke's stance on the whole lawsuit thing bizarre, not to mention warning about possible predatory microtransactions when that exists in the game that he advertised for in the beginning of the video.

[@bunnyfreakz]

Company can't copyright gameplay or visual style.

[@TheUltimateHacker007]

Doesn't matter that it still looks copied like hell. Don't try to to dig your head in the technicals of it

[@byte-bg4ob]

​@@bunnyfreakz Eh Nintendo copyrights gameplay all the time

[@Shadowcam00]

China treats copyright infringement like they treat other countries' territorial waters: _"It's free real-estate."_

[@IcicleFerret]

As far as I'm aware, their government incentivises making "foreign" things Chinese. They grant contracts to companies just to steal other countries' inventions.

[@questworldmatrix]

Funny, isn't free real estate the western imperialist dogma?

[@IcicleFerret]

I see my comment critical of China immediately got deleted by YT. Tldr, It pays its companies to copy others' products because they are not a free market.

[@iDislikeEditThanksForTheLikes]

worse is if you try to do the same to China, they will sue you. lmao. "What's yours is ours as well, but what's ours is ours only"

[@TheNightquaker]

And that is based. Besides, if they were actually infringing copyright, then Sony (owner of the Horizon franchise) would've sued them, instead of allowing the game to release on the PS5.

[@PlumGod]

Tencent. As in the game was made with ten cents

[@WiillPlay]

Lol

[@tychodragon]

AI Revolution coming for gaming

[@xHuman-x_x]

So true. What an embarrassing flunk😂

[@arturius9715]

It's like elden horizon with crafting. How tf is that a bad thing?

[@Pvydrow]

​@@tychodragon cope

[@Techrenamon]

I don’t know man, this game looks pretty sweet. But i’m also of the opinion that companies shouldn’t get to just own aesthetics in this case robot animals in a green post apocalypse. I for one will be keeping an eye on this game.

[@mayamousavi]

this Could be pretty fun yeah I'll try it for sure. and yes companies shouldn't own ideas and sony even approved this game being on playstation so they're not bothered by it which is a huge difference from what Nintendo does. but you can't deny this goes beyond similarity it's a female mc in a green post apocalyptic world with robot dinosaurs and tribalistic themes like they pretty much copied the whole aesthetic and some robots look straight up copied from Horizon. again i don't think it should be sued or anything but there's no denying their heavily inspired and sometimes copied aesthetic and themes of horizon. hope it'll turn out good tho I'll play it for sure

[@sevware]

didn't we go through the exact same thing with genshin impact? at first everyone accused it of being a botw ripoff because of the visuals, but the gameplay turned out to be very different and it became a huge success same with palworld really

[@asumax8]

That did happen. Another game possibly in the same vein is Craftopia, made by the ppl that did Palworld. If they would actually sit down and finish it, it would be a fun, enjoy game that is a hodge podge of 5+ others

[@naccibeatz]

horizon zero yawn

[@whatismyname6086]

🥱🥱

[@blackbullet06]

THANK YOU! God I thought I was the only one that was so bored by that game. Is the bow stuff fun at first? Sure. But the dialogue and quests and dragging on of everything. The game is not as good as its praised

[@luisperaza1854]

​@@blackbullet06I think he meant the ripoff not horizon

[@weplayvrgames]

​@@blackbullet06in the minority there I think , personally loved the game and can't wait for the next one

[@ridiculogan2962]

​@@luisperaza1854 rip off looks better than hzd

[@TrickzKamikaze]

I can't be the only one who noticed the elden ring stun animation at 6:40

[@theexodus3937]

I also noticed some elden ring attack animations mainly the sword swinging animation at 6:53

[@MrToni8899]

I just like that the bull mecha basically lifts majority of its moves from Fallingstar Beast

[@ThePoushal]

Lol animation that is present in many other games before ER

[@jase276]

I was waiting for him to say it's a fusion of Horizon and Elden Ring

[@anonisnoone6125]

That's not specific to ER. That's the most basic thing in a game.

[@PepperoniRonin.]

6:15 so we just aren't going to talk about this attack that looks eerily similar to the phase transition attack by the falling star beast boss in Elden ring?

[@josephpiscitelli8053]

Oh shit your right

[@07m07]

That enemy overall just seems like a straight-up reskin of the Fallingstar Beast. The head slam attacks, especially the one where it plunges its pincers into the ground and shovels it forward, look identical.

[@MyShiroyuki]

Oh wow, I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. I'm guessing most of the game really is just a copy and paste of more popular games (and Horizon for some reason)

[@valentinvas6454]

They also showed a gorilla machine that has Godrick's attacks from his second phase. And I know some of the moves in Elden Ring are bought from Epic but isn't it funny that they chose to copy some of the most succesful games from the past few years. Since Hogwart's sold 30 million copies I think a Chinese studio will come out with a Harry Potter ripoff as well. These stuff are textbook examples of the Chinese copy stereotype...

[@christianlaw1992]

Who cares if it’s fun though.

[@RuminatingGuardian]

Western games usually focus on 1 thing and try to make it as good as possible. Chinese games try to incorporate as much as they can cuz someone could find it useful or fun. Chess vs Checkers kind of thing: With chess you have a direct plan, while with checkers, you're not sure where this will go, but it might be useful in the future (might be fun for many people).

[@corneliusdobeneck4081]

Funn fact: chess originated in China.

[@12tanuha21]

@@corneliusdobeneck4081 from India, not China

[@SapiaNt0mata]

there ain't gonna be a lawsuit. Nintendo couldn't sue Palworld for the blatant rip-off pokemon and pokeballs. you can't sue for something like enemy types, visuals, etc. if you can, then car racing and bike racing games can sue each other for using the same cars and tracks.

[@Shsjier]

No, that's a terrible comparison cus cars and tracks exist in the real world

[@r3playyyy]

First of all, thats not how intellectual property works, you cant just copyright real life objects. Second of all, Nintendo is in fact still sueing Palworld for their use of Palspheres and if their track record (100 % of cases won in Japan) is anything to go off of their lawyers have a decent chance at succeeding.

[@zachdillenger5468]

@@r3playyyy Thats a lie they are suing over mechanics, do better research

[@khebre6032]

Well now Nintendo is suing Palworld

[@inkwell60]

I had an internship at a Chinese mobile game company where they literally just took the code from one game and were just slapping another coat of paint on it. That really feels like what this is here. Edit: Just for some clarity, the study was called Hammer Studios, which was a small like 20-person start up in Chengdu under TapTap. I was only there for 2 months as part of a "marketing" internship over summer, which was basically just me playing shitty mobile games to see what events they had. How they specifically got the game code is beyond me, but a few commentators seem to think it's impossible to reverse engineer/data mine a game to get access to its data. Also why lie about a scam internship at a shitty mobile game company that's hopefully closed down? Weird flex for internet clout, but okay...

[@quademasters249]

As long as it's their code, that's an efficient way to do it.

[@inkwell60]

@@quademasters249 It wasn't, unfortunately...

[@Geekoo85]

And suddenly everyone and their mothers either had an "internship" or were "engineers" or "programmers" for Chinese companies. Sudden inflow of "insiders". Lmao, what a joke. 😂

[@ACatHandler]

@@Geekoo85 is it really so hard to believe someone was employed? you should try it dude

[@OrinDenise]

@@Geekoo85yeah why lie about just internship? Just lie thatyou are some kind ‘game tester’ or ‘bug finder’ lmaoo

[@nadtz]

To be fair this is nothing new for a Chinese game, this particular game is just getting a lot more attention than most because it's being released outside of China. After watching some of the gameplay it made me think of Palworld/survival game base with maybe a bit of Monster Hunter DNA covered in a horizon zero dawn skin. After Palworlds success I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few more like this, though maybe with a less obvious visual style ripoff. Gotta give them props for the trailer though, it got people talking about a game I probably never would have heard of otherwise.

[@bjaurelio]

1:27 This structure looks like it's a forerunner base from Halo.

[@AceDailyGaming]

I love pokemon but there is no way i would go back after palworld was made. Horizon is great but this game looks much more like what i wanted horizon to be i hope it gets much bigger than horizon and proves everyone wrong.

[@RmnGnzlz]

The protagonist doesn't look like Nick Avocado, the game will sell fine.

[@philiphunn194]

Yeah, see, Aloy doesn't look anything like that guy, especially not in the finished game. Far too muppets just saw that one screenshot from the state-of-play demo (which was taken through a fisheye lens) and decided she must be ugly, because their only experience with women is anime.

[@shydreameress264]

Tell me you haven't played HFW without telling me you haven't played HFW

[@TheTrueMerrio]

Temu's Horizon Zero Dawn. Or "How China Never Gave A Fuck About Copyright"

[@Slav4o911]

But the game does not infringe on copyright, ideas can't be copyrighted, suddenly everybody forgot that.

[@scarsofthenorthjd1066]

I don't know what's worse : the absolute shameless ripoff or the fact that I want to play it.

[@MrSkullMerchant]

I feel ya 🤣

[@Blackreaper95]

Horizon is boring but I'd definitely try this if it's f2p

[@xXtuscanator22Xx]

@@Blackreaper95Horizon Forbidden West was actually a phenomenal game. I highly enjoyed it

[@DovahVokuna]

I wanna play it as well. Horizon Forbiden West was so boring to me. Man Aloy is such a boring character. But this ripoff looks like fun. And after every terrible broken game the western developers released, i'm ok with it

[@SlimSavageBlanco]

@@Blackreaper95 Only people who suck at Horizon say stuff like this. Horizon is for sure not boring.

[@itshenrihere]

Woah, that's awesome!? Had no idea Palworld was getting a Horizon:Zero Dawn skin cosmetic coming!

[@Bombardier15]

And a Ghost companion DLC

[@4N4NG_R4B0]

So that the big Palworld update they talk??? I don't know you can update a cartoonist game to photorealistic AAA game. That really BIG update.

[@blackraven85_1]

You know having robot animals wasn't invented by Sony right?

[@Naxiwuno]

Of course not, but similarity is crazy

[@VERMONNSAXONGOETH]

But when things are a little too similar...

[@VERMONNSAXONGOETH]

Are you dense?

[@QuirkyAvik]

Man I miss the days when this channel made in depth well thought out essay videos instead of this low quality talky talky video.

[@SterileNeutrino]

This was definiteyl not one of the best ones

[@chris42069]

Its just complaining for 20 minutes. Like bro this game actually looks decent wtf 😂

[@Ryan_Bolton11]

They must have been like lets just take a bunch of popular games and chuck them together

[@natethegamer45]

its crazy how the rage bait is actually working. that it literally what palworld is and yet it was among the most popular games of the year. little bit of pokemon, little bit of zelda, little bit of every other survival crafting game out there, and yet it sold over 2 million copies for an early access launch. kind of hypocritical to now make fun of this tactic when palword is far from the first successful game to do this.

[@lortigaproductions3120]

@@natethegamer45 God yes finally I hear someone saying this. Enough people liked palworld to defend it or just look past all this, but the studio that made it has the exact same strategy for game development. "Pokémon with guns" just scratches the surface. Copied assets, animations, even sound effects are everywhere if you've played enough games to notice them. People need to grow some fucking values and avoid games like this even if they are somewhat entertaining. Like yeah no shit if you copy paste an amazing game you'll probably end up with something at least somewhat enjoyable.

[@natethegamer45]

@@lortigaproductions3120 i think you misunderstood what i was saying. not that im about to defend this game cause how could i when no one has played it, but its not fair to judge it solely on doing what other games have done that have become successful. palworld is a fun game. copying mechanics from other games isnt inherently bad, its the implementation of those mechanics and how well they mesh with the other aspects. imo palworld does this well. i havent seen any examples of straight up copied animations and assets in palworld. similarity and inspiration isnt the same as asset flip. enshrouded is basically a copy of valheim with this logic with some original ideas as well as things takes from other games out of that genre. the list goes on in every genre of games. my point was that that alone is not reason enough to say a game will be bad.

[@abelingaw5070]

Dude, its what CN does. First time?

[@lortigaproductions3120]

@@natethegamer45 Then I suspect you have fallen in exactly the sort of mental trap I describe. Because it's fun and 'works' you avoid claiming moral fallibility or at least avoid looking for it. A game can be fun and still built on corrupt ethics. If you haven't noticed any copied aspects I urge you to take a closer look and search for comparisons. Off the top of my head a few examples are the copied assets of elden ring evergaols, sound effects from breath of the wild when discovering a new area and the ripped skeletal structures of pokemon designs along with the thematic designs of many. Not enough to claim a copyright strike doesn't constitute an original idea, or even a combination of original ideas into something new and 'original'. I also urge you to look at their prior games, as it's exactly the same sort of product that this here horizon/palworld ripoff is. Even if you think palworld is above board, the studio that made it lives off of shallowly copying ideas of popular games and merging them into something new. They released a game called 'Ai impostor' with amongus looking characters, where you discern real art from art made by Ai, and it pretty much sums up their entire philosophy. They live off of just skating below the legal and (not successfully imo) ethical radar but they are insanely aware of it and abuse the perspective you have to their advantage. Fun über alles, as long as it's fun it might as well be made by slave labour and copy every idea and mechanic from another game right? We do seem to agree though that this game and palworld are doing the same thing, just not on its consequences of moral ramifications.

[@alexwaddington9808]

I hope Peter Dinklage voices the little bot.

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

If they got someone who sounds exactly like Peter Dinklage so that they can avoid paying Peter Dinklage then I curse them

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

Naw, we need Wee Man.

[@AwakenedSleeper009]

"That 'mechanimal' came from the moon."

[@jpebrz]

We've woken the hive!

[@Atrocitez]

That wizard came from the moon

[@BigBadMadDog.]

It's like the Day Before. It's a scam which is just a Frankenstein of other games' ideas and assets.

[@azura8675]

At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is whether the game is good or not. Let’s not pretend that Palworld isn’t massively successful and Nintendo isn’t able to sue them for copyright infringement of Pokémon, they sued them for a game mechanic patent. Let’s not pretend that Valorant isn’t massively derivative of CSGO, Apex, and Overwatch yet it is one of the most popular games in the market, or LoL vs dota1. Sure there’s a lot of knockoff games in China, but they are prevalent outside of China and actually being market leaders too. Btw I have no idea if this game will be good or not, it’s just the way Luke has been covering it seems extremely biased and disingenuous.

[@jthctne]

I’ve never played a single Horizon Zero Dawn, yet what I do know they made characters a bit ugly. Maybe buying Light of Motiram is safer putting my wallet to.

[@TheOnlyTaps]

Basically palworld with a horizon skin 😂

[@rickcarrixdo8167]

And monster hunter esk combat. Would not be surprise if it randomly blows up when it releases in 3 or so years.

[@maertean]

I would love to see Sony try to copyright biomech animals as their own, as if mechas and biomechanical animals/humans hadn't existed before horizon... their entire reputation would be at play

[@GameoftheYear-fx4mq]

You act as if any other game even attempted biomechanical animals in the last 15 years. Don't kid yourself, it's literally meant to be Destiny x Horizon x Monster Hunter

[@_Cetarial]

Sony doesn't care either way. The game is coming to PS5.

[@wolfereignowns1154]

@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq Don't forget pal world and every other game you are slightly reminded of.

[@resrevr]

Just made up an entire scenario to get mad at 😂

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq_"You act as if any other game even attempted biomechanical animals in the last 15 years. Don't kid yourself"_ You think no game tried mechanimals in the last 15 years? There's probably a shedload of Japanese games

[@sh_i_ro]

subvert their expectations: the video game

[@saintboy93]

Western Devs: Refuse to show gameplay until 5th or last trailer before game release. Chinese Devs: Gameplay in 1st trailer 4 or 5 years before the game release

[@daniel.watching]

I don't think Palworld is the right comparison. If it's a survival base builder with dinosaurs wouldn't it be closer to ARK, which is where Palworld gets most of its game loop from in the first place.

[@firstnamelastname4752]

Tencent intends to sell this game on PlayStation 5.

[@spectre2381]

Wishful thinking 😂

[@TheNightquaker]

@@spectre2381 It's not. The PS5 is literally in the list of platforms for the game to be released on.

[@Gurenn83]

I am not paying for a rip off game even if this cost $1 lol

[@malekat8539]

​@@Gurenn83 So you wouldn't play palworld?

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

You know there is some spyware buried deep in that code. They want to thicken their files on all of us.

[@AGboricua]

You know what would make this crazier? If Palworld did a collaboration with this game. 😂😂😂

[@justinsotomayor9831]

this game looks 100% ai based off of Horizon Zero Dawn 😂

[@kindralslegacy5461]

Bro even the main music sound exactly the same.

[@ChangedEver]

Was thinking the same thing!!😂

[@MambaKing]

When it come to games, I don't care at all if it's a ripoff as long as it's good. I also wish the entire gaming ecosystem was a free for all and not just China. Corporate gaming copyright has gotten way out of hand.

[@アマオト]

A lot of people are saying that the creatures/structures are based on Horizon: Zero dawn... Having not played the game, the designs look more close to the Tek Creatures from ARK:Survival Evolved to me. Heck, skip Horizon Zero Dawn and Palworld and just say its ARK:Survival Evolved/Ascended. I remember ARK being such a hit in Chinese gaming community when it was still in beta. Global Asia PvE Servers were littered with pillar structures as "Land claims" by chinese players.

[@neophenom]

Looks like Horizon, BotW and Monster Hunter, blended together.

[@simonrockstream]

No, it does not. It looks like a whole bunch of nothing.

[@victorioussnake]

You also forgot Palworld with the base workers' stuff. This game is gonna be a mess of so many mechanics that it's just garbage

[@wolfereignowns1154]

@@victorioussnake Palworld did not invent the base workers mechanic they had.

[@asumax8]

After watching Asmon's video on it, you can throw in Elden Ring too. And I'm all for it if they can mesh them together nicely. I could care less about "original" most of the time. I just want something fun

[@ashborn7596]

i mean i dont care if its a rip off or a copycat as long as its fun it doesnt matter to me, even palworld looked like garbage but palworld is somehow the most fun survival game ive ever played so who knows. i think you're being a little too hard here ngl.

[@AikiPen79]

that glider is from forbidden west too, not just breath of the wild

[@Jun_GL]

It's from BotW, Forbidden West was released 5 years later. And tbh the gliding mecanic was already there in Zelda: Link's Awakening in 1993 and in every other major Zelda games since then.

[@Bateluer]

Man, I would actually like a survival/basebuilding game set in the Horizon universe.

[@draven02000]

FFS why don't you do some simple research before going "sony needs to sue"? the official playstation account on bilibili and weibo promoted LoM so sony is not gonna sue, they more than likely have some deal with tencent or else why would the OFFICIAL playstation account be promoting the game

[@AldmeriExile]

Palworld with Horizon coat of pain, Zelda stuff, No Man Sky ish building, with survival? In all seriousness, Luke... I'm kinda struggling to see why this is so laughable. I get it's pulling from a ton of other games but I love those games. If it's marketed as a trick then yeah that sucks, but this stuff seems fine to me. Am I just crazy for thinking all this?

[@Relugus]

I just wish they allowed their art team to cook their own designs. "Hey, let's do our own thing."

[@Bro-dot-]

Taking game design aspects is one thing but copying the whole art bible of another studios is something else. No matter its a rip off on the art stuff through and through.

[@Enyoiyourself]

​@@Bro-dot- So the entire history of art?

[@Bro-dot-]

@ Nope, buddy the stuff you see in games is technically design not art, it has intent, extensive rule guides and concise logic it’s not about expression like traditional art. Game art falls under the category of art design but this is entire different to a painting in a museum or fan art. Copying a design is way more intentional, than being inspired by an artist. There is style and then design intent. It’s bad faith or just ignorance to say this is just following the history of art. If this was fan art and etc then fine but different rules apply to concept artists.

[@AldmeriExile]

@@Relugus This is a great point! Grew up in the 1990's wild west of game design and your comment reminds me how interesting and unique things can truly be.

[@TheGamingRaccoons]

I love that we have reached a point where games cane be considered copy’s of palworld and I’m all for it

[@crawdaddyy]

Are we really surprised that the country who is notoriously known for blatantly copying other products is now copying other video games..

[@REE-Animation]

It looks great. Lets not fool our selves here. Who cares if it looks like something we know. If the game is good, the game is good. Simple as that really

[@guerilla210]

at this point we wont have games with everyone saying things are "rip offs" or copying...this looks like it takes INSPIRATIONS from games such as palworld, monster hunter, any survival game made in existence. competition breeds excellence and as long as it isnt a complete copy word for word, or start to finish identical, taking inspirations to create even better products is what keeps the gaming industry growing. Imagine wanting the gaming industry to dry up because everyone is patenting mounts, and hunting, and building bases...

[@LordDragon314]

Is that a Star Destroyer at 4:48?

[@Nekoakurei]

So how is this any different than Ironmace making Dark and Darker? Or any of the thousands of Phasmophobia, Lethal Company, etc, clone games that are on steam

[@markreaper]

Youre actually correct, what make people bat shit crazy is its the horizon dawn title being copied a big title.

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

If cloning happens elsewhere that doesn't make cloning Horizon ZD ok. If companies (from e.g China) steal Rockstar's customers by 100% cloning GTA 6 as soon as its released then it becomes impossible for Rockstar to justify spending 100s of millions on making new games. It crosses the line when playing 1 game means there's no point paying for the other game due to the experience being the same.

[@malekat8539]

​@@alwaysdisputin9930 Then you better bring that same energy with Palworld amd every other game like it

[@asumax8]

​@@alwaysdisputin9930I mean by that thought process, many games shouldn't exist, including many great games and sequels

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

​@@asumax8What are these "many great games" you are talking about ? If you were right the makers of many great games would get successfully sued for making exact copies of other games.

[@enya64]

Like Asmongold said, "Not my problem. That's Sony's problem. I'm a customer." I'm buying it.

[@ACatHandler]

I feel like they just asked Chat Gpt for the highest selling game they could make it's so clearly profit oriented it's insane

[@terradrone3905]

So; - Robots from HZD - Buildings either from Halo Forerunners or Ark Survival Evolved/Ascended - Gameplay from Monster Hunter AND Ark/Palworld - Cinematics from Terminator (from the skull crushing to the guy/Sarah Connor getting vaporized by the nuke) I mean, I appreciate the attempt of trying to combine survival/base building with MH style combat and all, but c'mon man they are not even trying.

[@dualman02]

the day before but with robot dinosaurs

[@vulcan4d]

Yes, but this is Horizon of Asia

[@spardax1068]

calling the game worse than you think when the only actual gameplay you have is the base building aspect of the game, doesn't help a lot on your argument Luke, you have no actual gameplay of the combat, the world map and the fighting robot building aspect. People also criticized Palworld for being a Pokemon copy and it was pretty good. Better wait for more information than just jump already to criticize the game because you dont like the way the base building works.

[@nowheregirl921]

Surpised you didn't mention Nier Automata. The small robot flying around your character and doing things at your command is so Nier Automata.

[@EduardoMoreno-o6r]

Video mentions the ghost from destiny, which is what it seems like they were copying. It looks exactly like it. And since ghosts have different skins in the game, you could even have plugged the robot in this game into destiny and you would not be able to tell the difference.

[@gellister]

The sad part is that they have such an enormous market that is over regulated to the point outside properties like HZD never get there. so their populace doesn't know any better because the games aren't there and Chinese Google is controlled by the government so it's not like they could look it up either

[@PixelCortex]

lol, never noticed this before but you can see the AI artifacting at 0:57

[@nickn5419]

looks way more than just a horizon rip. more like 5 or more games. Insert survival game, monster hunter, horizon, insert mobile game, insert random mmorpg. Doesnt look good at all. when you try to do too much it becomes too bloated.

[@Enyoiyourself]

Nah, looks interesting and better than Horizon, which became generic goofy designs with Forbbiden West and boring with the story since the first game

[@nickn5419]

@@Enyoiyourself disagree

[@annaczgli2983]

Lawsuits ain't my problem as a consumer. That's the company's lookout. For me it looks great - added to my wishlist.

[@D3cadent1]

The gacha/mobile gaming/p2w bullshit will be your problem though. Have fun bro.

[@asumax8]

​@@D3cadent1if its in there

[@Gleamoz]

Wake me up when The Third Part from Horizon Zero Dawn is out. I’m going to miss Sylens Voice.

[@acme3drevit]

it also has the first descendant filter applied. all the dialogue that was in it was the same gibberish in that game. "five times i've erased you, and yet, you won't silence up." "How much more resurgence do you need?"

[@ShivamYadav-rx3hy]

They think that monstrous machines and beautiful protagonist is what’s great about Horizon….but its actually the story that makes you feel Aloy’s struggle is what drives this masterpiece

[@jacob.pallath91]

This is xero dawn at home 0:19

[@VampireNoblesse]

Hollywood superhero battle scenes are ALL copy past straight out of Naruto Shippuden^^

[@davidweaver4436]

If it's fun it's fun, if it's crap it's crap. We'll see. I'm not super invested in it, but Horizon but Ark/Palworld style could be pretty neat.

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

Horizon but there's way more creatures and you don't play as Nikocado Avocado

[@Preohhh]

I know this is bait, but you should play Horizon! It's a good game, with great feeling combat. It even has i-frames on the dodge roll! And the story/lore is fantastic, very unique. Try it!

[@St4rTr3v1Ut10n]

@Preohhh I played both of them and the DLCs. I think they're good games, but certain elements about the story and gameplay keep it from being "great." It's the Avatar of video games - technically impressive and interesting, but it won't ultimately be that culturally significant. "I-frames on the dodge roll" is the most hilarious pitch I've ever gotten for a game 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 I'm quoting that from now on

[@Preohhh]

@@St4rTr3v1Ut10n You could have just commented this instead of the bait lol. I get you though! I am able to ignore the not so great parts because I love the great parts so much, but I know what you mean. I certainly have my critique about the games as well. Lol I'm glad you liked it. I said the i-frame thing because I feel like these kind of bait comments come from "the other side" which is Elden Ring fans (which is a ridiculous head-to-head, I dont know why it exists, I personally love both games). And it took me a while to realize that the roll in Horizon has I frames. idk if it was common knowledge or not but took me by surprise for sure. Thanks for a civil discussion despite the initial bait!

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

I remember when video game characters used to be role models for people to look up to. Nowadays everything became a pseudo-ideologic marketing symbol, because managers take the outcry of the loud minority on Twitter and Reddit too serious. I'm sure characters like Lara Croft, Tifa Lockhart, Bayonetta and Chun Li have inspired a generation of girls more than the Star Wars Broom, Nikocado's Ginger sister, Forspoken girl etc.

[@Preohhh]

@@hyperturbotechnomike idk man, hard to say yet. You are comparing old characters to new ones, so its impossible to tell if the new ones will have an impact. Can you give examples of _how_ the 3 protagonists you mentioned are "pseudo-ideologic marketing symbols"? In what way are they being/doing that? (optional hard mode: don't use the words "woman" or "lgbt") Just out of curiosity, have you played Horizon? If not, you should give it a try. Fantastic combat with good difficulty scaling, an original and unique story and lore, great music and sound design, beautiful graphics and world design. It's just overall a really good game, if you're able to look past the main character's appearance. I'm also curious, have you had a conversation with any women about this topic, or are you just guessing?

[@NickAnderson357]

Looks like a monster hunter rip off from the trailer. Also, horizon is a game you hear about but see no one playing.

[@anon2752]

Horizon is an insanely astroturfed IP. Overblown "sales" because they were bundled with consoles, at best mid games that arent that popular. Sony is desperate for console exclusive ips though so they pushed it as much as possible. The steam numbers for the games and the lego horizon disaster shows its actual popularity.

[@deyliramirez382]

@@anon2752Horizon is bundled with God of War and TLOU, bruh. PlayStation always bundles their highest selling games, which means the games had to have sold well on launch day for Sony to include them

[@Krises97]

if the game is good.. idc. they can steal what they want. i will buy it at the full price if it's worth.

[@Mortalware]

If it's coming out on PlayStation then Sony obviously doesn't care and are in it for the revenue as well. Neither does Steam.

[@jannickandreasen7896]

This light of motirim looks more like a survival game when compared to horizon zero dawn that are action role-playing game

[@MeniscoManeiro]

You get -200 social score Mr Ruke

[@g3ar75]

😂😂😂

[@joej78]

Well, it's probably gonna be better than concord at least lmao

[@azurechen123]

Im pretty sure 90% of games are better than concord, it's not a very high bar- if there even was to begin with😬

[@Luna-cn4pj]

8:24 pal world rip off

[@bladechild2449]

I think Yahtzee said it the best, keep a core gameplay loop and evolve over 3 stages, the now, the current goal, and the path to the end of the game. I have zero idea what this game's gameplay loop is in either stage.

[@lucasLSD]

No Luke, it's better, the boss fight is literally monster hunter.

[@mttylerdurden9]

Horizon Zero shame

[@Katryoshka]

As much as I want to agree with the intro I have to say that everything is a copy of everything else. If it's an improvement then who cares - I'm lookin to play better games.

[@nothobbesmufc949]

what did balatro copy?

[@Calebyeeepp]

This isnt a copy its an ai ripoff

[@langleymneely]

Horizon Forgettable Jest

[@wabbithare9653]

TBF, this was what people were saying about Palworld when the first trailer came out years ago. I'm personally just tired of another wide open world Chinese game.

[@CoyoteGris]

I have friends who aleays say "i would like to make a base in this game" and we are playing random stuff. This game seems like the "here, have what you didnt have in the original", thats a good way to see it.

[@3D4Ureel]

Brilliant. Asians will make the games Americans make but without the woke garbage 🤪🤪

[@bgko91880]

I find Horizon boring

[@trentsworld7745]

I don't care what anyone else says, this shit look 100x better than Horizon.

[@axios9182]

People may not know Playstation China also uploaded this game trailer in Bilibili (Chinese KZbin) so acutually this "knockoff" is under Sony's recognition though it doesn't have a Horizon title.

15:01 "mechanimals" Dude it's so bad...

[@devinc5484]

Not sure why all the negativity. I likely won't play it just like I haven't played any game you compared it to but it doesn't look bad. The combat looks just like the clumsy looking monster hunter combat videos I've seen.

[@reedofwater]

This LOOKS like a straight upgrade from Horizon. Not only does it have loads of extra features, but a much more attractive protagonist. ASSUMING they pull it off (it isn't shovelware) I would totally buy it at full price. After the travesties of Horizon 2 and DA Veilguard, as a consumer desperate for content that's actually marketed to me, I would hope more "ripoffs" happen.

[@DeviHyuga]

I expect this out of China, I was out right surprised when Black Myth Wukong wasn't a rip-off of something else. And I think that's because it was folklore from they're own country.

[@handeezyspeakseasy398]

Dont be mad that this game will be better than Horizon Zero Dawn

[@TheRealist1.]

Sony won't sue Tencent...