The War Within Date Announce Cinematic | Echoes of Azeroth | World of Warcraft

[@Tr3nix]

20 years just flashed before my eyes

[@Yazzir9]

Same.

[@the0s666]

Literally

[@WhiteManKangJump]

compromised.

[@Amirrezamollabeigi]

Ah feel good

[@Leslie-hg6wl]

Same here..

[@Bstrain86]

"The Darkness Calls" Me: *Picks up the phone* "Hello darkness my old friend..."

[@DizzyTreasures]

🤣🤣 Thank you for this comment

[@MinorSpiffy]

wp

[@Cerberos1188]

"I've come to beat yous down again"

[@Aztonio]

Illidan made this joke in Heroes of the Storm !

[@jorisleeflang6323]

@@Aztonio And Theotar in Revendreth, Shadowlands

[@JoeGameVideos]

it still shocks me how insanly good that cgi was on first trailer so detailed on the dwarf and the hair of bear

[@Gunnvulcan]

You have Pirate Softwares dad to thank for that

[@variousus8336]

xd

[@Vinzenzx]

@@Gunnvulcan Why ?

[@ataridc]

What amazes me is the animators are still making progress

[@bohne8746]

true dedication shows

[@Smootier]

"The final battle", said literally every single expansion baddie in existance.

[@ReikaLady]

Well for them it technically is. :)

[@NostraDavid2]

She didn't say "ENOUGH!" yet though.

[@kevinrosa1685]

did you already quited the game?

[@vaguehenri802]

@@void6094 Is WoW in the room with us? Or are you speaking of the 15 EUR/month teletubbies game?

[@Smootier]

@@vaguehenri802 What are you smoking?

[@Ox5f3759df]

Of all the WoW expansions, this one will be the most recent

[@gimilkhad8169]

Truly one of the comments of all time

[@zx7t300]

Of all the comments, this one is the most obvious bot

[@prinstyrio0]

It shall be an expansion.

[@tasmanianlord5269]

An expansion will truly expand the story.

[@archonus-1]

fax

[@agutinoff]

"The final battle." part one of ten

[@Bmj7777]

More like 1 of 3 :)

[@iamjlv]

@@Bmj7777 npc

[@runkorko]

hope not just ten

[@aaronash8571]

every end has an begining

[@AmandaPelland]

LOL!! Good one!

[@viktorbengtsson676]

"CHAMPION!, gEt Me SoME mOAr AzEriTe"

[@tomasskala4405]

CHAMPYUN!, WE NEED MOAR VOID ENERGY!!!!!

[@kyledewaal9332]

More like AddErall ammarite?

[@vergaron4248]

Thank you for bringing back that traumatic experience 😂

[@jackhardy606]

The HD version of the old trailers were absolutely beautiful ❤️

[@michakiewisz3184]

True

[@AlejandroRodriguez-dy1dv]

Those weren’t HD; that’s just how good blizzard cinematics of old are🔥🔥

[@jasperzanovich2504]

The "real" style of the last scene really suprised me. Did they mocap those?

[@Kumire_921]

They are literally the same old cinematics ..

[@cocs88715]

Yeah. Clever laziness

[@RavenARPG]

"The world soul shall be mine!" 25 Raid group: "Guys she didn't get the memo"

[@artgrukhin]

20

[@aunokaris287]

Literally no one: Blizzard for the last 5 expansions: THE FINAL BATTLE IS UPON US!

[@X.Hawk.]

Maybe there pastors

[@Silly_Illidan]

6 pillars of the universe

[@nicholasvladd]

This is the FINAL FINAL battle now!

[@explycitkilla]

Blizzard for the last 5 expansions: THE FINAL BATTLE IS UPON US! (Classic)

[@Silly_Illidan]

@@aunokaris287 well if we took any of those threats lightly, could have been our final battle

[@lj1653]

the 'final battle' draws near? are you sure about that? bet

[@thomasknudsen4880]

So it ends in 3 expansions. Wow 2 confirmed in 10 years from now...

[@nathejustice5297]

Warcraft 4 next

[@christ.4977]

The final-ish battle.

[@Adirtan]

@@thomasknudsen4880 nobody said that

[@pll3827]

the final final final battle

[@sunsetvera]

Nothing can beat the first WoW cinematic: the quality, the atmosphere, the creativity 😌.

[@SubduedRadical]

The WORLD...of Warcraft.

[@RemiBusseuil]

any warcraft 3 cinematics beats all of the lore in wow anyday of the week

[@Gladiatorat]

Word.

[@ultemcia]

so we shadow priest really had the strongest weapon

[@haplopatryn145]

gone so soon...

[@Elkethuss]

yep

[@Vinzenzx]

Not really

[@IPwn3dJo]

Never forget our bae blade

[@NikolaNeskovic95]

@@IPwn3dJo she still whispers to me in my sleep

[@costas_tr]

"and for countless generations" IS SHE CALLING US OLD?!?

[@SubduedRadical]

Halo...5, reference? One of the few good ones? XD (The former ODST guy from Halo 3: ODST on the team saying something when Cortana is taunting them with him being "seasoned": "Is she calling me old?" or "Did she just call me old?") lol

[@joaogoncalves6517]

There should be an expansion boss that you couldnt beat. And the loot would be based on how bad the raid got beat!!!!!

[@johanavogelova7373]

Yes

[@ExiArts_HristoHvoynev]

Ahahahah😂

[@technotoad2566]

“The final battle draws near” Pressing X to doubt.

[@ShennyIsLive]

"Hey guys, remember all these old games?"

[@711ish]

"hey, guys, remember this, remember that? plz buy new adon"

[@Crazozourus]

The good ones.

[@Yabog00]

more like remember when the game was good?

[@PurpleOcarina]

For real. Using cinematics from 20 years ago because they know they cant make anything better

[@NoFleepash]

>this world shall be mine >proceeds to show the world breaking nice ownership

[@DuxAKADuke]

The world SOUL you muppet

[@Stormsong93]

90% of the trailer was nostalgia bait. They're really trying to get classic players to try out retail lol.

[@patricklourenco9429]

Interesting, because Chris said that in his comeback of blizzcon. And looks like he meant it.

[@LeprosuGnome]

Too bad, I'm not playing it.

[@patricklourenco9429]

@@LeprosuGnome Look internet, please give me an answer 'cause I'm a badboy.

[@adamzioriophotography]

If that’s the case, they probably shouldn’t go woke.

[@foxthroat3410]

Varian died for this. 💀

[@Jabberforth]

and it must not have been in vain 😡

[@roronoa92]

The true King

[@Ilive_420]

Body type 1/2

[@jazzandfunkequalsjunk179]

"AZEROTH NEEDS YOU TO HEEAAL HER WOUUNNNZZZZ!!!"

[@zbengman]

PTSD. Champion!

[@erenjaeger3537]

August 26? We are not prepared!

[@BelligerentWoW]

Neither are the Blizzard Developers & Testers that were just surprised about this date. XD

[@Hydra_mYi]

Конечно мы готовы, мы месяцами фармили шмотки.

[@beefcleavebeefcleave6449]

TOO SOON EXECUTUS

[@NoobGamer-di1dw]

It’s definitely not too soon October would have been way too late

[@TheCommentFactory]

Right, beta just started lol

[@joshuasmith4643]

Half the trailer "nostalgia bait." The other half "check boxes."

[@sleepypanda3694]

youtube comments: predictable

[@jasonwowhero8147]

@@sleepypanda3694woke supporter detected disgusting /spit

[@ArticalWolf]

This

[@kirksaintpatrick3921]

Yeah, unfortunately true.

[@chrisness]

What check boxes?

[@gameforce514]

Remember when our game was good? Hold on to those memories.

[@Pharto_Stinkus]

How many fcuking "final battles" can there be?

[@Beerbottles123]

It's can only be called 'final' if Blizzard releases Warcraft 4 afterward.

[@eskaban_edits_beats_and_more]

2:05 world of warcraft, the netflix adaptation within

[@awkwardsaw]

checking off the boxes lol

[@julio4771]

Eurghhh... brother eurghhh!

[@ImposCoE]

Xal'atath is looking real, REAL good!

[@Hendryxe]

bonk

[@vampiriann]

yeah, would

[@tattoist2644]

Who is she

[@Cocoapuffs123]

@@tattoist2644 knaifu

[@laoch5658]

rubbish

[@darknessqueen6630]

Jailor was Xalathas's master plan

[@inferno8008]

oh God no plz no...

[@sirjame5591]

It was also his plan to be apart of her plan

[@gotchauuu]

Jailor was xalathas's plan, but Xalathas is plan of someone else of someone else

[@cameronmcewen7192]

That plan made no sense.

[@Elkethuss]

lets just forget that shadowland happen lol

[@botsnkats]

Blizzard since day 1 have been the best cinematic makers. Top tier

[@KasperG87]

EA and their Star Wars Old Republic Cinematics are their equal and better in some cases imo

[@battleforshogun5452]

Lame cinematic tor remaking nastoliga for the 10000 time no content terrible

[@Henne8210]

​@@battleforshogun5452 you clearly don't get why they reintroduced those cinematics.. Little tip, try listen to the voice, then you might understand

[@vorios6731]

​@@Henne8210 this was just to appeal to your nostalgia rofl

[@Zerradable]

This one was awful.

[@adammassina5695]

Is this really the World of Warcraft? It feels so different from before

[@Lesquille]

World of DEIcraft

[@GorehowlBeardhead]

Final World of Warfantasy, anyone? 😂

[@s0lid_sno0ks]

That's because nobody who made Blizzard great still works there, and they haven't for some time.

[@tpurvis89]

@@s0lid_sno0ks Chris Metzen is back for the World Soul Saga

[@dat_lamp]

DEI character looks like an Overwatch character. "Welcome to underground! Where everything is represented!"

[@kewllnvmable]

You had to use the old cinematics here to give me nostalgia eh? Good strategy...

[@Kevin-zz9du]

You get to pay top dollar if you want -Early Access- On Time Access.

[@twilso12]

It’s crazy how far behind Blizzard is now compared to how ahead of the game they used to be.

[@Bogtog777]

Thats what happens when you care more about BlackRock money than your customers.

[@Rukkard]

gigachad old cinematics vs ESG modern audience new cinematic, good on blizzard to include both so we can tell which was better

[@Aztonio]

You mean the gigachads currently in prison ?

[@BeeegDuck]

@@Aztonio tf you talking about?

[@Aztonio]

@@BeeegDuck Dunno, Alex, Jesse, maybe...

[@BeeegDuck]

@@Aztonio 🤔what

[@veppy4952]

@@BeeegDuck cubical crawling creeps! yeah love old wow, great environment

[@mikem2k6]

Blizz put everything on nostalgia here

[@matrixcom69]

Blizzard: "Remember when the game was good?"

[@SubduedRadical]

@@matrixcom69 "Remember us. Remember that we lived..." Wait, wrong game?

[@matrixcom69]

@@SubduedRadical more like right game.

[@Ericeepperi]

Sargeras was right

[@Knight_Marshal]

What if he left the sword knowing Azeroth would need it?

[@TheNextKing306]

And he did nothing wrong...

[@claytonjohnson4629]

@@TheNextKing306 just like Illidan

[@MInorek5]

He still is

[@MInorek5]

An'she the sungod,child of azeroth

[@vbr7233]

Crying how ever. Varian we miss you.

[@varric]

Arthas, we miss you. You were the second to last villain who don't make us cringe.

[@metehan1761]

my king...😢

[@Thenameispurple]

My king :(

[@thevlaka]

nice bot

[@varric]

@@thevlaka Says the bot.

[@StormKnight1]

The human looked very unwarcraft like in the end.

[@greenwing90]

it looked like diablo...

[@rogerbillon7106]

It looked like orcs 😁

[@kiemugen9830]

The human looked very woke

[@FallenRobot]

The "human" wasn't human, it's an Arathi- human-high-elf mixed.

[@revanite2982]

@@FallenRobot yet looked black. why?

[@katsmaintanklive]

Blizzard: "omg guys remember the journey!" Also Blizzard: "don't you guys like final battles?"

[@offonk]

anyone else not that hyped about this?

[@the_sandman__]

Turns out Xal'atath was actually the creator of the jailor and her real name is... THE WARDEN. dun dun dunnn

[@naxx3434]

Even on that situation The Jailor had his master plan

[@pikachuru]

the janitor, not the jailer ^)

[@Goldschlager]

Can't wait for that epic battle wheelchair to drop for my new disabled character!

[@lorteramor440]

New dragonflyong mount

[@TroX30540]

Are you saying this because of the girl amputated ?

[@raphaeldias5502]

Eric Cartman was right.

[@jock4551]

meaning?

[@HawkknightXC88]

What does he mean?

[@kuzmychmaksym3843]

Make love, not Warcraft 😂😂😂

[@canyegane2406]

that preordering is dumb

[@thecandlemaker1329]

@@jock4551 Everything.

[@csguy3223]

Bro can we just talk about how all of this is just reused imagery.

[@arceptor]

its the 20th anniversary

[@csguy3223]

@@arceptor date announce could have been cooler though. Didn’t have to be combined with 20th anniversary stock footage.

[@arceptor]

@@csguy3223 most people watching the xbox showcase have no idea what wow is or quit long ago.

[@IsaYzall]

It's alright, you're not the targetted audience here. This is for those of us who have been with them for 15+ years and get nostalgia from seeing our old memories in an HD trailer :)

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

@IsaYzall I've played since vanilla and dei mutts are definitely not targeting me

[@LegendFromWoW]

Okay wowhead, you can update the cinematic that pops up on your website now to this.

[@ventar5516]

Is this still Warcraft or we are dealing with disney already?

[@asavel6227]

The true enemy is always blizzard itself

[@Gaz_1]

People can't wait to eat up the Microsoft slop lol!

[@AaBb-gi5ny]

Мосфильм

[@bullychman]

You dealing with it since BFA

[@vegeta1885]

Everything that is made in modern California is lost the moment it's made, cause they have to check boxes.

[@AlgaInventory]

The older trailer with the dwarf, night elf, blood elf etc... sooooo amazingly good! Incredible how good it looks after all those years, nostalgi😍😍🥰

[@siddhianishkala4543]

Those are two seperate trailers.

[@SubduedRadical]

@@siddhianishkala4543 The Blood Elf was TBC, true, but the Dwarf, Night Elf, and Foresaken Warlock were OG.

[@grimblethehorrid]

The final battle again? How many final battles are we on now?

[@spartan_j117]

- how many? - yes

[@nopenope460]

...But last.... one... more... Final... Battle... awai....*Dies of cringe and old age.

[@climbsta]

2:06 Paladins straight outta compton dawg, homies healer left for milk and never came back

[@DuxAKADuke]

WE WUZ PALADINS

[@RexVenge95]

2:11 2:17 - Na'vi allied race confirmed

[@soapgaming4903]

Are they for the horde? Not very well versed in wow lore.

[@KiropLokiIncarnate]

@@soapgaming4903 They definitely feel more Horde than Alliance.

[@soapgaming4903]

@@KiropLokiIncarnate So the horde is also getting an allied race then?

[@tobiaspedersen2866]

​@@soapgaming4903 they already are, the new dwarf race is both horde and alliance

[@iamwhoiam7887]

hey! listen!

[@AlexSaheli]

The class of soundwork here 🤌

[@Levitiy]

Wait, is earthen hair actually copper wire? That's so much better, it makes sense now.

[@Jpeverything62]

WoW Netflix Adaption

[@mauricebenoit2773]

The Murloc within is the real struggle for Azeroth.

[@ifulea]

"WHO IS THIS DARKNESS, ANYWAY?" - THE TRUE KING

[@elessal]

later to be revealed to be the puppet of the Truest King. who will later be revelaed to have been the puppet if the Truest of Trueishes Kings.

[@Thenameispurple]

Varian.....?

[@Donuts8]

Huh, not denied “us” but denied “me”? Interesting.

[@adamshev5105]

Yeah, very interesting 😑

[@inferno8008]

care to explain?

[@Terminatorca766]

I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice that

[@ZyravsZombies]

@@inferno8008 because she is supposed to be one of many void creatures, the old gods have been trying to corrupt the world soul for ages now and she said me instead of us.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

N'zoth must be like "*hewhewhew* you forgot me? :C"

[@kristoferkravis1474]

Why are there Valorant characters?

[@siddhianishkala4543]

Timestamp?

[@hpgwellscraft]

@@siddhianishkala4543 🙄

[@rico6311]

It's pride month bro.

[@decwow]

@@rico6311 DSM 5 month.

[@SpiritTapPriest]

They had to get all the DEI checkboxes checked.

[@silver_forest-k5i]

"Mortal heroes" proceeds to respawn after every death

[@aleczanderX]

Those end-scene graphics is INSANE

[@TomAndrews91]

Sylvanas from Wish.

[@SeralyneYT]

Tell me you don’t care about the lore without telling me you don’t care about the lore

[@DasKeeneye]

@@SeralyneYT nobody can care less about the lore than Blizzard have done in the last few expansions.

[@alvinluk9724]

from woke

[@TomAndrews91]

@@DasKeeneye Exactly 😂

[@SeralyneYT]

@@DasKeeneye Yes they can. Warlords of Draenor exists.

[@Artem-cf8kc]

Blizzard 20 years ago: >Brutal dwarves, elegant elf druids, huge tauren shamans, gorgeous graphics and direction. Blizzard now: >tolerant characters, one-armed lgbtkwr creatures, chaos in the trailer

[@censortube8662]

My problem is it doesn't even really look like Warcraft anymore.

[@igasm]

Completely agree, it was made even more apparent by frontloading the first 2 mins of this 'cinematic' with old cinematic content.

[@vegeta1885]

@ko7577 Yeah like Blackrock giving out money if you check certain boxes. That sure changed.

[@mikko3]

@ko7577 You just agreed with him

[@acolyte1951]

The cinematics went from epic classic fantasy to some movie stuff

[@gatsby4872]

1:06 legendary moment with goosebumps music

[@allenwalker1230]

The trailer itself is Blizzard re-using 90% of the scenes from their previously trailers.

[@TheChristianWood]

because it’s not the actual trailer for the expansion lol

[@sabrevanson4412]

@@TheChristianWood shhhshshshh, they need to complain about things to feel good about themselves

[@ezormovies6748]

​@@sabrevanson4412trash game nowdays.

[@00dragons00]

@@ezormovies6748 best game 2024

[@Derpleton14]

@@ezormovies6748 and yet here you are

[@Pradathor]

She says the end is near, but what kind of deal did she make with N'Zoth back then? Or does she not know everything that needs to be known? I'm really excited about what's to come. 🥰

[@mrnpc-ur8rn]

are comments filtered / being removed?

[@bravoisteal]

Are we going to fight more planets next? Maybe fight the literal fabric of time? Black holes?

[@zoolande-roblox-gaming9877]

well we are going to be dealing with the Void so....maybe

[@darduk]

One-armed, one-eyed, tanned - combo

[@socklips7655]

Intersectionality Within

[@AFX_______]

"tanned" LUL

[@jossugaming5924]

Woking Within

[@datolicious4832]

Had to be woke somehow

[@sashimimisha]

@@datolicious4832 are you gonna cry about it

[@Bummul]

Haven't all of the expansions been 'the final battle' though...

[@5KAmenshawn]

Yes, just not for us. It's pretty much the bbeg's final battle every expac.

[@wysh7205]

The FInal battle, before the next final battle, before that final battle, of the final battles, final battle

[@Huelgoat_Shiv]

You can realy see that they are not the company they used to be. Just pasted some trailers from previous games together and the new part gives zero vibes that you want dig into it.

[@LadyVashj86woa]

Exactly my thoughts! It's a scam, not gonna play it.

[@SD40Fan_Jason]

August 26th, The War Within The Server Farm! New features include weeks of periodic rolling restarts and epic queue times to log in.

[@asavel6227]

Nah,there was no que when SL was launched and WoW is constantly losing players or they're moving to classic.

[@bruta]

nostalgic seeing scenes from the old cinematic trailer

[@druidicleonnnjj]

Praying they secretly drop harronir on release

[@PandoraNYC1]

Oh yes, me too.

[@Esai85]

If anything it may be like Vulpera, play through their campaign/zone to unlock them. Which if it is, I'm ok with.

[@aromata1]

They basically just confirmed Harronir will become playable with this cinematic

[@SuzakuX]

Earthen, half elves, and harronir will probably all become playable during the course of the expansion.

[@ThatTCG]

Rather have quel'dorei

[@leanmachine3251]

“Hey everyone remember all these great xpacs we made?”

[@Mazetism]

blizzard, could we see what Jaina looks like in one of these cinematics?

[@viktorlindqvist5308]

@@floridianslipAnd what is Knaifu, hispanic? 😂

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

@viktorlindqvist5308 Knaifu = knife + waifu because the new end boss chick used to be shadow priests artifact weapon

[@impersonal6650]

"The final battle" Which one already, exactly?

[@Terminatorca766]

Light and shadow most likely

[@kubaf24]

How to use nostalgy and bring back players to play with our 4milion bots

[@brockbruss256]

So, we're finally getting to meet this "Darkness"? Cool.

[@SubduedRadical]

Kingdom Hearts, is that you?

[@IfungLu]

Hello Darkness my old friend...

[@holzmann8443]

2:00 D.E.I. emerges!

[@holzmann8443]

@aenien4560 Notice anything else about her? Blizzard checked multiple boxes with this one.

[@dantheman_]

Who was the black dude with the shield?

[@Bogtog777]

The DEI Crusader

[@decwow]

@@Bogtog777 The final boss will be surviving his "bottom mutation" complications.

[@katelawyer3689]

She is old why does no one get this

[@pcxestore]

Welcome Sweet Baby inc., new partner Blizzard

[@Gorre022]

This is all part of the Jailer’s master plan 😈

[@thokri]

New avatar-like allied race? Why orcs with elven ears and supposed to be arathi, what? Wasn't Lothar last of arathi?

[@Jack_the_Rizzler69]

@justinb7494 She looks like an orc here, because California's associate black people with orcs

[@TheBlaert]

This is just Blizz showing off how unbelievably good their trailers have been since Vanilla

[@case8837]

i'm... goiiingg. to talllk.. realllyy sloooooww... so it sooooounds liiiike... i'm..... actuallyyyyyy... sayiiiiingg soooomethiiiing,,,,,,, oooooooof substaaaaaaannceeee...

[@Barbariandisks]

If the guardians can beat the witness and the final shape, so can the heroes of Azaroth

[@Fiilis1]

Final battle. Then shutdown, looks like this cinematic starts to remind disney production.

[@godslim]

The final battle?!?! They already announced 3 expansions!

[@hassamlatif1169]

here's hoping the "final battle" happens in last titan and then wow 2 comes.

[@dr.dejnairb7022]

Which is the 1st trilogy of the 1st trilogy for the Final Battle.

[@SnackPatrol]

ummmm ever hear of "final" fantasy? that word is very confusing to game devs

[@ghhdgjjfjjggj]

they mean "The Final Battle" (part 1 of 10)

[@Gaz_1]

@@SnackPatrolmost final fantasies don't have sequels lol!

[@simonbelmont0993]

God, the DEI checkbox toons in these games are so cringe.

[@Nagoragama]

log off the internet, it is driving you insane

[@mythicity416]

Is the DEI in the room with us right now?

[@Brother_Gimiel]

Go outside man. You are losing your mind on the internet.

[@MatthiasLeath]

ZOGbots pretending the DEI is some silly little coincidence that happens by mistake.

[@simonbelmont0993]

​@@MatthiasLeath Exactly. NPCs gonna NPC.

[@МатвейГопаченко]

So you just took the fragments of the previois trailers and put them together? That`s it?

[@Skollshorties]

"The Darkness Calls" Illidan: "Hold on, darkness just texted me."

[@TheOneTrueOfficialLordGod]

"The final battle draws near" Yeah, I'd believe that if you didn't already annouce two more expansions coming after this one

[@ジョジョさま]

WE WUZ

[@gotchauuu]

Darkskinned strong woman + disabled = GOTY

[@sashimimisha]

are you gonna cry

[@chrisriani]

​@@sashimimishaYWNBAW

[@SpiritTapPriest]

Stunning and brave.

[@SinisterSkip]

Very inclusive ej.

[@nataschajordan6053]

donno loosing arms and legs in war is pretty common, are you trying to shunn war veterans here? how unpatriotic.

[@krazko3332]

is it 26th for the the 90euro giga deluxe version or for the regular people?

[@MeritRaXIX]

Regular people. For those is 22nd

[@Morisato4]

Remember , regular people not paying less to do not have game on time, but to have 3 days later ...

[@nate8117]

All the old good cinematics! Now blacks elves! That’s all we really care about!

[@lunchbox4415]

Don't forget to shell out your 90 bucks for 3 days early access guys!

[@KonaFocus]

"their courage never faltered" So Anduin is not included in this story? 🤣😂