'The War Within' Deep Dive with Ion Hazzikostas

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[@Wowmusicable]

Ion is great! He explains things very well and it’s easy to understand. 👏

[@RealBullbear]

He is our systems guy ✌🏽

[@dreadbull5039]

Totally agree. Metzen is the hype guy, Ion is the articulate system guy. Great team

[@Gnarledoak]

As an outdoor player.......let's goooooooooo !!! ❤❤❤ And the Warband change is HUGE, can't wait for transmog collecting to be easier.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

Mounts will always be a slog though, but i can deal with it better if it's only hard to get the Mounts.

[@Morbidhouse]

I hope they make Death knights following rider of the apocalypse be able to do mounted combat when they use deaths advance or something, that would be so badass.

[@longWriter]

As a cooldown, or in general? Paladins would look amazing doing that too...but then again, we kind of have that already with Divine Steed, don't we...?

[@roncurtis4222]

These Quality of Life improvements are everything Accolonn has asked for, for years.

[@r4vio81]

I feel like delves are almost like the shrines in Zelda. bite sized gameplay for people who are more on the go. Ion did say they'll be puzzles, battles, and other things to do to, so they do remind me of a wow version of them. It's going to be good for causals who can't spend a lot of time, or don't even want to in game. Obviously, there's differences too between shrines and the delves, that goes without saying, but I feel like they were kind of inspired by them a bit.

[@ZodaSoda]

The problem with puzzles in mmo's is if they're not randomly generated or dynamic, they get old fast.

[@bandoozm916]

Imagine if we could make that hover bike in game

[@r4vio81]

@@ZodaSoda Depends on the puzzles for me. I enjoyed doing some many times, others are a one and done kind of thing.

[@r4vio81]

@@bandoozm916 Lol, yea. There is that craftable mount though as a delve reward, maybe we'll be able to do some things with it than normal mounts can't do.

[@Levitiy]

I think players should spend a lot of time if they really want the good stuff of delves. A lot more casual friendly without the insane theorycrafting and human management of mythic raiding though. I really hope there's a delve that basically recreates withered army training from Legion. That was so good and satisfying.

[@matthewolson2386]

Very excited for this, I liked just about everything I heard. Its gonna be good!

[@004947]

delves sound like the timed scenario things from MoP on isle of tunder where u needed to collect keys to be able to open chests at the end of the run

[@ItsBenne]

I just love how this show case been my favorite been making me genuine happy and curious been watching it over many times and still love this and keep hoping they keep it trough as well love class spec immersion I love it so much

[@LadyTsunade777]

As a DK main since Wrath, I am extremely hopeful that Rider of the Apocalypse will let us be mounted in combat, as many DK NPCs have been. A rough idea I came up with: It doesn't need to give any bonus move speed (slow but inexorable is a core DK fantasy), so make it replace Death's Advance with: - A spell with a 1.5 sec (interruptible) cast time to mount up on your deathcharger (with glyphs to change its appearance between the base Acherus, Rivendare's, Crimson, Winged Steed but it can't fly, Invincible but can't fly, etc), castable even in combat - Infinite duration, 1.5 sec cd if interrupted (that starts after the interrupt/silence ends), but it ends when you drop below a certain % health (or it ends when you lose some % max hp equivalent after it starts) to simulate the enemy killing your mount - While mounted this way, instead of bonus move speed, you're immune to slows/snares/roots/forced movement/etc, and you cannot in any way be reduced below [100% base move speed + your speed stat %]

[@OhNoTheFace]

Cautious optimism. They said the correct things and more importantly admitted previous problems. I will watch it with hope

[@DragonflyenAmber]

I can't wait for this stuff to launch!! So many things we asked for and they are finally listening.

[@jonneff]

How fucking Hyped are we at this point , and we got to wait now lol DAMN IT !

[@c-eagle]

So if you ignore the static hero talents... the ones you can switch are essentially similar to the talent system we had in Shadowlands - just on a smaller scale. And they even do the "special class name" thingy they already tried to do in Shadowlands, when their vision was to have us be something like a "Venthyr Mage" or similar. All this in addition to the main talent trees. I actually see this as a good and interesting mix. Looking forward to seeing it working... and to really see people identifying themselves with their hero trees.

[@c-eagle]

@@laertesindeedI agree with everything you said - the hero talents are NOT covenant-stuff, as I compared it to the old TALENT system, before additionally mentioning the covenant-name-stuff. Two basic ideas they seem to re-add in War Within, but in a rather different (and much better) way. Seeing it as some kind of additional mastery also is a good perspective in my opinion. Also, I agree with the fact that you initially had no idea what I was talking about. (Sorry) (-: But nevertheless your answer and viewpoints do have great value in my opinion. Quite a lot of the (standard class) talents we still had in Shadowlands also just changed existing abilities, and (in a more limited way) you could change them around to suit your needs. Sound familiar? :) Sure, hero talents do SPECIFICALLY that, but that doesn't remove this similarity. Let's just be thankful that it's evergreen and not just borrowed power upto the next expansion. :)

[@philliponfri7938]

Love that they are adding somewhat what Everquest did a long time ago called mercs. i love it cause it gives solo players like me more to do.

[@KitaiAryik]

this is legit the first time i have been excited for WoW's future in 5+ YEARS!!! to the point i just resubbed back to the game after a 4 yr hiatus due to not enjoying the direction the game was going in at the time and maaaaan its like i am a brand new player again. so glad to be back that it feels like coming home again. hopefully blizzard can deliver and keep it up post launch!!!!

[@deathbreach3448]

Let’s go, yeah it sounds beautiful

[@dreadbull5039]

I absolutely LOVE the deeper emphasis on class fantasy! More of this! Bring back class order halls!

[@NickYoung22]

A lot of this reminds me of SWTOR. Companion, companion gear and roles, and the warband. One more step for housing

[@dzonyyya]

It lights me with joy how good this game can be when they actually listen to the players

[@nuty6458]

i would LOVE to see them expand delves so you can have your warband come with you. just have ai use a default talent selection and a static rotation i think it would something super cool doing something with a few of your own characters im not someone who is into rp but i feel like rp players would go crazy with something like that

[@bunnyrabi]

That would be cool. I really feel developers dont consider these of things. Of course the point of mmo is to play with others, but unfortunately lots of people like in other aspects of life just dont have other people to do things with. So adding more ai/npc stuff with your solo play just provides an overall equal experience for anyone playing. Also with open world pvp events they added for classic . That should be the default for wow as a whole, since like all these hub zones have guards just walking around and patrolling for what reason other than aesthetic. Having npcs be more part of open world pvp would be great, and not just fodder npcs mobs..

[@hobosnake1]

​@bunnyrabi I think the devs are at least thinking about something. The warband screen is hilarious because it just heavily implies that eventually that screen will take place within your home. I truly believe once this trilogy of xpacs is over, we get "wow 2" aka the same exact game just with a revamped world. They've been making assets for a world revamp forever now. It's starting to all add up. I really do feel like they want the first cycle of WoW to end and basically start WoW2. Just that WoW2 will take place in the same game/engine so everyone can keep their massive collections of transmog and mounts. It will make sense at that point to add player housing, and warbands seem like the beginning of that system.

[@SpeedDemonAJ]

I think the reason why they are staying away from this is because they don't want to create an advantage for those who create alts versus those who just like to have a main character. They don't want to do what Lost Ark does, which is make alts necessary for maximum efficiency. With the class imbalance we have now we know that people would probably have a warband that would make an augmentation or shadow priest mandatory for maximum combat efficiency. That then creates an advantage over someone who does not have those alts or doesn't play an alt at all.

[@dustinsirois4788]

Ya this is a huge win... What they did with Delves they need to add those features or a similar feature set to professions. They did a bunch of work on professions they need to push that a little further and outside of just gathering resources to then have dynamic crafting options allow the collection of resources dynamically as well. This will let you have people who only want to do crafting to have a ton to do as well as Delves for those that only want world content and M+ for those that want that etc. They also probably need to at some point soon make housing and have that its own system entirely.

[@gn0stica536]

I want that shirt. :D

[@jani14jani]

Delves are one of the best additions to the feature set. I like mythic + but I can only take so many pug runs before i'm feeling like smashing my keyboard. Delves sound like they offer a more relaxed way to make progress. Which is good when you want to make progress and feel like taking a break from M+.

[@jakubpelikan2393]

Its gonna kill M+ and raids.

[@HOTCHIXBRO]

lol

[@Feralus]

I didn't play for ages, blizzcon got me hyped again and I must say - new UI is dope :D

[@Taskorilla]

I hope they set these up in unused areas in the maps. For example the weird hole in Northrend that never ended up going anywhere that looked like titan tech.

[@cryam6428]

Delves just sound like a sniffenseeker 2.0 update. Which is good improve the tech you already have. Warbands I like the shared bag space finally making storage management across characters friendly, and that with more and more things going account bound it's going to force WoW to make Delves and open world content be good. Less there is absolute boredom the moment you log in (we're already there IMO) and no alt will act as a distraction.

[@kassieeppig6315]

will this trickle down to lower-level toons because I just got to Dragonflight. Still learning to fly.

[@joshuaevans4301]

I seriously feel like this expansion is being made specifically for me

[@drey--]

I really think some wow content creator should make a "Shadowlands vs War Within" video just to show the players who dropped the game how many quality of life improvements they've been doing since then.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

W Changes, W Blizzcon, W WoW, "better late than never" has never been more true. i'm gonna gear up my main, level my toons to 70, then i'm gonna fuck off until TWW is out.

[@BlackDaw1]

Hero Talents better bring visualizations. Like Sentinel Hunter should be using a thrown glaive instead of a bow and stuff.

[@pandemonian]

I love the info they gave out this Blizzcon. Did you feel that they.. admitted to things that have been common issues? I felt less hubris from this Blizzcon.

[@howarddavis6894]

haha, Ion's shirt "What Sword"

[@ub3rfr3nzy94]

Something to note. For all the last expansions except this and dragonflight, every Blizzcon there was something they added that made everyone groan. Legion we had random drop legendaries, BfA we had Azerite armour, Shadowlands we had covenant abilities. Every Blizzcon they would announce a feature and everyone would think "that's a terrible idea, please don't do that". I have seen nothing but good things in this blizzcon, every little thing they announced was a positive. Every blizzcon before they tried to say "We listened" but they didn't, they half heartedly did. This time it really feels like they said "Alright fuck it, maybe the players are right" and they're just going with everything we said now.

[@ZodaSoda]

That's because this expansion is low on features, it doesnt have much going on compared to the previous expansions, its a good or bad thing depending on what you want, but they're listing Dynamic flying as an expansion feature, to further hide that outside of expected content the only new larger scale feature is delves, everything else is minimal expectations.

[@ub3rfr3nzy94]

@ZodaSoda The expansion isn't low on features. Legion was order halls, artefact weapons, legendary loot. Bfa was azurite weapons, island expenditions and allied races, shadowlands was covenants and torghast, dragonflight was a new race/class, dragon flying, talent tree revamp. The war within has: Hero talents, delves, warbands, earthen allied race. It is the same amount of content as the other expansions, more than some, not the most. People are just saying the same shit they did with dragonflight. "WoW it looks like not a lot of content" when it's the same as its always been. This is more of the same, but less shitty systems, but people are complaining now because the shitty systems are what hyped people up and disappointed them later. You shouldn't need a hype box feature if they just make the expansion fun. We asked for evergreen systems, they did it. No more artefact weapons, legendaries or other bullshit.

[@ZodaSoda]

@@ub3rfr3nzy94 Hero Talents are just a player power growth system, done well, but to call them a feature you need to call Talent Trees a DF feature and Covenanat Trees a SL Feature, I dont consider these selling features of an Expansion they are expected content. Warbands are essentially QoL and not a long term thing that will grow an expand alongside the Expansion content, it a good thing but it should not be a selling feature it should be given out and it likely will be even if you dont buy the expansion you'll prolly get Warbands so its not actually an Expansion Feature anyway. The Dyanmic flying is something that should have been ready for 10.2 or a smaller patch and also not a Buy this Expansion feature as the base core of this system itself was a Buy Dragonflight feature. Allied Races are not a selling feature either. Im not saying its no content im saying its low content as the only "New" thing is Delves, I would have been happier with 1 more "New" thing, Delves are a system created to integrate into Seasons alongside M+ and Raids, They needed something not seasonal players could work on and enjoy even if it did give gear, something long lasting and not another treadmill system.

[@jessewilson6404]

So will I be able to use dynamic flying in flight form on my druid? I main druid and I don't honestly use any of the flying mounts I've collected.

[@andreasbjorklund4524]

Well since rep will be retroactive then you should get loads of rewards when they smash all rep together.

[@zyrphath]

How is the Delve stuff not directly lifted from Path of Exiles? They've had Delve for many years - with the candle mechanic, etc.

[@Icewolf2oo3]

Let's just hope with Delves they don't gut them due to a certain part of the player base screaming about "forced" content.

[@willythemailboy2]

What I think is really missing from delves - at least so far - is procedural generation. Have thirteen different themes but make each run somewhat unique. Part of what puts me off M+ is the static, solved nature of the dungeons. Sniffin seeking is the same way, but at least those are fast enough that doing the same run for the 15th time doesn't matter much.

[@willythemailboy2]

@@laertesindeed I never had that problem. It just annoys me slightly that the solution is the same every time. I do like that most of them involve minimal combat because I have alts I can't really play well but can muddle through a few fights even when undergeared.

[@keithb6344]

It’s 13 delves, but he said if you go back to the same delve it will might be different. It’s probably not random generated, but they probably have a few scenarios per delve.

[@Levitiy]

Didn't they try procedural generation with Torghast, and it didn't work?

[@willythemailboy2]

@@Levitiy The maps were static but the mobs were procedurally generated.

[@eyeofthasky]

my biggest grudge with battlegrounds: ... in the past u could go in them at any level, u had lvl brackets yeah so lv 19, 29 any ..9 was optimal, but nontheless you could do it before max lvl ..... now, ...u cant. not cuz the game has the option grayed out (like for raids, so u cant easily get a group for old ones -.-), but simply bcuz u can be in queue for a lifetime and there are never enough people to go into warsong gulch or one of the newer BGs ... and thats sad. therefore i really look forwards to the korrak event, finally some leveling alts by pvp, and alterac valley is a still awesome bg

[@ryanwoodall6428]

Is it just me or does Ion look much more lively nowadays?

[@StoovTV]

Big W for WoW. I've heard D4/OW2 feels a bit shafted

[@wpropst8797]

So your the man in control of wow. Good to know

[@TheAccolonn]

@@wpropst8797 I'm the man in control of WoW? What?

[@wpropst8797]

@@TheAccolonn Maybe you are not. W.e I see who it is now and thats all i needed.

[@TheAccolonn]

@@wpropst8797 wait, that makes no sense. You mean, Ion Hazzikostas or you mean me?

[@cjmahar7595]

Right now I run mythic plus for my guild, but shit I may switch to being delve leader lol

[@jordynchandler6788]

I can see in the end only 3 servers PVP/ Normal /RP massive world wide servers for each zone ( North America , Europe, Asia, Oceanic)

[@occproduction1704]

wow team was cooking

[@brandonkruse6412]

Delves sound like they were heavily inspired by Path of Exile - I’m definitely here for it.

[@GhostRat__]

Darkmoon saucer when!?

[@hobosnake1]

Am i crazy or is that Kobold standing there with the goblin rig? Are we literally going to get playable kobolds at some point? Cus thats what that looks like. That would be sick.

[@Kristers_K]

One thing i wonder about hero trees, and trees in general is...what exactly is the point of mana increases, astral power increases, etc...when mana, energy, rage, fury and secondary resources are completely pointless at this point? They don't matter since the bar never actually moves, you never run out of the said resources, unless you're a healer spamming the most expensive spell for 10 minutes straight, basically your resources are infinite, extra 5% mana and 20 astral power does absolutely nothing. Unless they are going back to more ''classic'' roots in TWW when where resources matter...these talents are trash. And to be quite frank...flat damage increases are pretty boring as hell as well.

[@arcadia1701e]

Delves sound very like the mines in path of exile.

[@Corfield81]

why would horde and alliance skirmish over resources in a BG? we are all happy friends one team now right?

[@Levitiy]

There's lots of bad blood between the populations still. The faction leaders can't control the players when they're far away.

[@JunearkCinccino]

Honestly they should reconteztualize pvp as War Games

[@ferhtkzcz]

I would cuddle with ION till morning, he has very cute cuddly dady vibes

[@eyeofthasky]

hot take: i dont like shared rep -- in some cases it makes no sense. if there are reps like in classic u can chose to persue or to ignore (i guess these kinds of faction wont ever exist again, sadly), then i do not want to find my warlock who is an asshole to be exalted with any plantlover stuff, he wants to be in war with them. but reputations nowadays are no real "reputations" as an expression of the personality of your char (well, yall even do not want that, so ...), but more like just passive bars that fill up during what u have to do regardless, and the more full they are the more things are unlocked to do that u have to do eitherway -- in that sense yeah a mere progress-bar can thankfully be accountwide; but thats not what "reputation" used to mean.

[@willythemailboy2]

Notice on the warband bank screen we've lost the reagent tab. Kinda sucks, tbh.

[@willythemailboy2]

Also notice no mention of additional support specs, although when covering hero talents he did specify he was showing for "existing" specs.

[@dg1183]

He literally said you can put in reagents and use them for crafting from any of your characters

[@willythemailboy2]

@@dg1183 Yes, but at the cost of the individual reagent tab. If we've learned anything about Blizzard over the years it's that they will continue to spam us with more items that take up bag or bank space.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

14:06 WANT HATS.

[@HippieMagic]

Delves sound an awful lot like… delves from PoE lol

[@ChrisWilson-bu5qm]

Sounds like ion made your sticker peck out...lol

[@AlleluiaElizabeth]

I don't play WoW, but I'm happy for ya'll for those QoL changes. :)

[@clogs4956]

Delves: very typical D&D stuff, but not Torghastly, really. Not at all. Indeed no.

[@FishboyAbzu]

Is Araghast just perpetually negative and angry all the time? Seems like it.

[@RobbyBeast]

we're gonna have another recylcled fated season 4 with probably none of the DRAGONFLIGHT DUNGEONS in the mythic+ pool no idea why, or who has these dumb ideas. We're getting less content for same or even more money than before. Aren't people tired and disgusted of having only 3 raids and random old dungeons in the mythic+ pool? Don't you want CURRENT EXPANSION DUNGEONS and 4 RAIDS WITH THE LAST HAVING A BIG BAD LIKE ALWAYS? At least thats what they made Iridikron, and that storyline died. Instead we'll just get Cata dungeons as keys where theres no new graphics where you can count the pixels yay.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

i dont just do Raids, unlike you.

[@RealBullbear]

I dont play M+. I only do Solo Shuffle/Epic Bgs and story stuff. I do play world content and LFR on alts. I couldnt care less about the dungeons, but i understand your concern. If you dont like it stop your sub and wait for the expansion.

[@RobbyBeast]

@@UltimateGamerCC were you telling me that? I play decently high keys, raid, mount/achiev/lore enthusiast. ALT overlord and so on. The quality of public events is drastically reduced, don't compare these dreamsurges, timerifts and the new bloom event to island expeditions, invasion points or even torghast.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

well you sound like that there is nothing, not Blizzard's problem if YOU dont want to do certain things. i'm a Casual Player/Collector and i'm not feeling like you do at all. also Delves are a permanent addition to expansion content, and since we're starting out with 12 different delves, i dont feel like that's LESS content, feels like more to me.@@RobbyBeast

[@RobbyBeast]

@@UltimateGamerCC dude, its simple we pay the same money for less content in comparison with legion/bfa in any way, less mythic+ new dungeons, less raids, less lore and i'm talking about this expansion, but if anything from what i said above applies to war within then its all the same

[@Predkite]

i love how he talks shit ahhah, he has always been aware of the issues that plague wow but not always able to follow/fix problems instantly.

[@sean2val]

What just happened , Blizzard are good now

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

Araghast in the chat , did his mom die or anything ? 🤣 haha hes a failure

[@Hadesillo]

WTF is WoW going to be good? What the hell is this timeline?

[@CrackerSnatcherHardCore]

here to demonetize this content

[@TeiKira]

The dude named Araghast in the chat is pretty cringe. We got it you hate Blizzard, no one asked for your takes

[@FishboyAbzu]

Pretty sure hes like that every time I see him in the chat in Accolonns videos lol.