The Weird History of Relationships on Drag Race

[@JackFedYT]

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[@camra554]

Never forgot them editing ivy saying I love you to her mother and them making us thing she was talking with jinkx 😵‍💫

[@uglyHoe-rj8mb]

That was wild

[@urieldaboamorte]

never in my life have I had a moment like this in which the only words I could think of were "what the fck" even after all of these years

[@sshakiila]

FR HOW FUNNY

[@roseghould]

In. Sane.

[@Ylurple]

never forget the true pioneer of using fake relationships for wins: the icon alexis mateo and her army boyfriend

[@juliotoebe9828]

This one isn’t fake do

[@nelumboandrews6762]

YES!

[@AuDHDarling]

​@@juliotoebe9828 , if I remember, the things she said during that episode made it seem like they might have broken up already. So not "fake" in the sense of him not being real or them just being friends rather than a couple, but "fake" in the sense that the relationship was already over and she pretended that it wasn't so she could have a personal connection to the military/patriotism theme for the challenge. But I personally think none of us can ever know what the truth is. Even if the ex in question came out and told his side of things, it would just be his story vs. Alexis'.

[@a1onab93]

I still choose to believe he is real

[@_.Idk._]

WAIT WHAT? That wasn’t true?

[@chillcloak]

The only ship I’ve ever loved is Sashea because it wasn’t forced by production and instead developed naturally as the season progressed until the fans caught on. It’s also such a perfect ship name, I mean come on.

[@aestheticdenise9916]

i’d say camden and angeria also came off quite natural at first up until daytona winds, and even then it wasn’t really forced that much by production until the reunion when they had a whole segment dedicated to it. now if you really wanna talk about forced, it be the whole willow and angie storyline that was only put in place to explain why both of them stayed in the final lipsync lol

[@jaenandprasad6401]

sashea u stay

[@dawnieedreams]

@@aestheticdenise9916 yeah lol like im sure they interacted a lot like they said and are very close friends, but we really didnt see it on the season haha. most of willow's screentime was spent alone. but if we're talking about forced ships... jorgeous and orion was so forced at the reunion wtf

[@haydenhellyeah729]

hey which drag queens do you mean with Sashea? :')

[@greyvik]

@@haydenhellyeah729 sasha velour and shea coulee

[@showmustgowon]

FRIEND ships > actual ships. sashea is top tier for me

[@geckohunter123]

the reason I hate shipping on RPDR is because the fans view the queens as characters rather than actual people. It feeds an uncomfortable detachment that makes fans feel safe to criticize the queens so easily.

[@amphalure]

but that doesn't happen because of shipping, that happens because they are on TV and people start to disassociate, dehumanizing them because that's what TV does, it shapes you into a character by editing you how they want. What you said it's not a shipping issue, people will/would see them as characters regardless, unfortunately

[@geckohunter123]

Well I think it at least exacerbates the issue. @@amphalure

[@Meelzdiva]

I mean when you think about it, Branjie was the more real relationship because nobody saw it coming not even production lol. And also Brooke And Vanjie never tried to feed into it they kept it separate from the competition

[@Duckduckobtusegoose]

This. When they said they were show-y I couldn’t disagree more. They had an actual spontaneous attraction that was very clearly natural(based on the way they interact, talk to/about each other, continuously making sure to keep competition separate) and ended in a natural way as well. They mentioned the producers didn’t see it coming, which means it was so natural they kept it Lowkey at first, it wasn’t just for screen time

[@lamoskgr]

Brooklyn used the hell out of Vanjie to get more camera time. You could tell that she was not into her. As soon as the season ended, they were done

[@Meelzdiva]

@@lamoskgr they dated for 4 mo this afterwards. You would know that if they followed them plus there’s no way they would’ve stayed as close as they are now if that were the cade

[@faithruckdeschel1294]

@@Meelzdiva Also, didn't they mention all that at the reunion when of course Ru made sure to insert his nosy behind in their business just one more time?

[@swansawng]

Branjie was the reason for one of my favorite confessionals ever. “Whatz goin awn. “ -Akeria C. Davenport

[@carmirhodes6851]

I would say the first ship that started it all was actually Alaska and Sh*ron. Yes they were a couple outside the show and didn't compete together but Alaska's season was heavily influenced by their relationship. From the whole "being in Sh*ron's shadow" to the idea of a "royal couple", it's pretty clear Drag Race saw the potential of shipping because of them. Hell, season 5 is the only season where contestants lip-synced to untucked and what did they have Alaska's group lip-sync to? Sh*ron and Jaremi. By the way I wouldn't be surprised if she got bad critics that week just because she played Jaremi and said she actually liked them instead of playing Sh*ron, like production set up her up to do.

[@maurogentile7669]

The first RPDR couple was Sahara Davenport and Manila Luzon. But like Sharon and Alaska they competed in different yet consecutive seasons.

[@carmirhodes6851]

@@maurogentile7669 Yes but my point was mostly about the impact this couple had on the season. Sahara didn't stay long enough in her original season for it to affect Manila in hers, although she did comment on it in her opening line, which was cute.

[@shortangel333]

The first real ship was RuPaul and Santino Rice.

[@des-astre]

Why are you censoring « Sharon » ?

[@oliveroliveroliver]

@@des-astre it’s a thing w/in the fandom bc sharon has many allegations against her and a racist past

[@everydayLMK]

Completely agree - never got into the shipping aspect of it. Always seems forced tbh but that’s not to say the queens don’t have real feelings but it is EXAGGERATED just like any aspect of the show.

[@444ultra]

I kinda love that they included ships. Drag queens were not desirable in “gay” spaces years ago- some queens talk about difficulty finding partners that accept them and their drag. Drag race has progressed in such a way that dating or being in a relationship with someone who does drag is more normalized. (From my very un-researched perspective)

[@Poppie-lb8lj]

I just always find it so weird to ship real people

[@Duckduckobtusegoose]

I think it’s a grey area for a lot of people when it comes to shows like this. They play a character but are still the real people at the end of the day. Some people are able to remove the actual human being aspect so easily

[@misscalicogirl]

there are people who ship trixie and katya who write fics about them being cis female lesbians. it's very fucking strange.

[@beth2721]

@@misscalicogirl THISSSSS ITS SO FUCKIN WEIRD esp when they’ve stated they think it’s insane

[@spoonsmcgee]

@@misscalicogirl oof that's so uncomfortable. This fandom is made up of angels and absolute gremlins 🤣

[@keith1078]

@@beth2721 literally what is wrong with drag race fans theyre so insane 😭 imagine making drag queens cis women and then write fics about them. weirdos

[@sunnybloom7272]

I’ll admit the relationship angle always do kinda forced like obvs production is making a thing out of this. But friendships formed from the show flirty or otherwise are my jam. Sasha and Shea, Denali and Rose, Naomi and Kim. There you can tell the show actually had a long lasting impact in shaping these people beyond the drag and that’s what I love to see. And if it’s flirty occasionally that’s fine too you can be flirty with friends and know it won’t mean anything cause you’re that secure in it. I’d love to see a video on true blue friendships formed from the show, like maybe some underrated ones, no shame to Trixie and Kayta we just know they’re best mates. Love the videos keep up the good work!

[@podfruwajk4]

I'd love to see a video on drag race friendships tbh, on and outside the show, sometimes I lurk queens' ig and I'm kinda surprised they are friends because their friendship probably became a thing after filming

[@sunnybloom7272]

@@podfruwajk4 yeah maybe it’s the artificiality of reality tv but it never feels legit till it’s off the screen where they’re free to fully be themselves and that’s what I live for. Like Lemon and Pri! How did I miss them in my post. Like on the show you could tell they were friends but it wasn’t till after where I was like damn. These two are absolutely legit, and now I love them both to the stars and back!

[@Globalastral5]

Tayce and Awhora both would’ve made top 4 if they kept everything a secret, even being roommates

[@alorockss]

Lawrence wasn't gonna allow that

[@MossyBallerina]

ugh true, like... no disrespect to Ellie, but Tayce, Awhora, Lawrence and Bimini really should have been the top 4

[@Addy0302]

I think Camgeria's tease from the reunion practically guarantees them spots in the same All-Stars season

[@jennxpennsgingerbreadman6679]

i feel like angeria on all stars would either go home in the first two episodes or slay the entire competition and win

[@_.Idk._]

@@jennxpennsgingerbreadman6679 I hope the latter happens.

[@sapodetenis]

oop

[@berry.blossom.]

​@@jennxpennsgingerbreadman6679 well.

[@henniandreasson1449]

Carmen Farala and Dovima Nurmi on Espana 1 was just so cute to watch. It didn't seem romantic to me, but more really close and caring. They were actually one of the things I enjoyed the most that season.

[@rutela3668]

They were exes who obviously still had a bond, not necessarily romantic

[@sweetdaydreamer8868]

@@rutela3668 that's dovima and Sagittaria girl, Carmen didn't know them before

[@lll.24601]

CARMEN + DOVINA!! 💓

[@yee6870]

the moment when carmen decided to make a whole outfit for the rosalia runway just so she wouldn't wear the same one as dovima was so mother of her

[@baza5848]

i LOVE drag duos that just work well, Lemon and Priyanka, Jackie and Jan, Arantxa and Hugaceo, Katya and Tracy, do i ship them?? not really... do i call them girlfriends?? yes i do

[@neutralman9124]

Ben + Jinkx and Bob + Monet too.

[@sunnybloom7272]

Exactly! I live for the sisterhood that comes with drag just super solid BFF material

[@Deedj1]

What always kinda irked me about Camgeria was they kinda hammed it up as a story beat, and then in the final competitive episode Angeria went on and on about how the person she has the most connection with was Willow (forshadowing their lip sync). The top 5 were all very fond of eachother, clearly, but the “she’s my best friend” moment that episode felt kinda out of place for me.

[@Sofia2crazy]

Yup, felt very out of nowhere

[@morticiax540]

When Lawrence smelled blood in the water, they were gonna see how hot that tea was

[@valora390.]

I don't know if anyone ships them beyond being friends, but I'm shocked that you didn't mention Raven and Jujubee. They had amazing chemistry.

[@Duckduckobtusegoose]

Literally such a compatible duo, especially as friends

[@percy445]

shipping is SO WEIRD especially when production is forcing it it makes everyone uncomfortable

[@gaber1346]

When you brought up the psychic bit it reminded me that I literally fast forwarded through that entire segment and never went back 😂

[@gil1934]

Jinkx and Ivy walked so Brooke and Vanjie could run

[@ciram9082]

I can't wait to see how Naomi Smalls changed the coupling of Drag Race. ... bad jokes aside. Love your content! ❣️

[@mintionz9938]

the ship that pioneered it all being s2's sahara davenport and s3's manila luzon 🧡 sad with what happened but the love between them was so real

[@JDoradoTube]

My opinion: I fully believe that Brooke knew she wasn’t a big personality for TV, but vangie of course is. She knew that talent alone wouldn’t get her to the end if she doesn’t have a storyline. Sure, she probably thought Vangie was sexually attractive enough to fling with. But I don’t think she ever had any intention to go beyond the surface. It’s even more evident at the season 11 reunion.

[@eleventyseven3742]

Truth tea sis 😌

[@LezbeOswald]

yeah it's definitely possible. at the very least, the reunion *gives the impression that* Brooke called it off but that Vanjie still had feelings.

[@neutralman9124]

I mean, they're best friends. Always posting together, Vanjie was a guest judge on Canada's Drag Race. If Vanjie doesn't harbour bad feeling towards Brooke, why should we?

[@JDoradoTube]

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[@connaeris8230]

@@neutralman9124 coming up with a plausible explanation doesn't mean we're harboring bad feeling towards Brooke

[@katwebbxo]

Wasn't Ivy already in a relationship? I could be wrong but I feel like I remember that. Also, I guess it didn't happen on the show but I always think of Manila and Sahara when it comes to this topic.

[@petroleumjelly417]

I’ve recently stumbled across this drag centered channel and it’s been the best blessing I could receive. The topics are interesting and everything about these videos have been great. Keep up the amazing work Jackfed!!!

[@beth2721]

It’s super fuckin weird to ship real ppl. esp w fans of trixie and katya. They’ve said many times they think it’s odd

[@vermillion36]

I forgot how much I love tayce

[@matthewcassidy1282]

You’re my fav drag race video essayist (is that a word?) it’s so succinct but you lay out your points so well

[@emmymatt]

It's really easy to fool people who don't have much going on for Valentine's day 🙋‍♂️ Anyway happy pride y'all

[@ehayes1608]

i just wanna compliment you. ive been watching your videos for weeks and you give the detailed analysis/discussion/topic videos ive craved for like 10 years of watching the show. your content is awesome!!!!!!

[@karacoconutag]

I just got awful news that really took a dump on my day so seeing this campiness in my feed is EXACTLY what I needed. 😊

[@SimplyaLady92]

What happened

[@SadGirlsRUs]

Feel better robot devil I loved you on futurama

[@hidansektas]

ill kinda never get over Rosenali 💀 i usually never do this but just Rosenali hits me hard

[@thebumpercar1344]

Sidebar: Congrats on getting that sponsor! Get that coin Jack! Hope you get more sponsors!

[@midsommar997]

Didn't you mean Rosé who has a fiance outside of their season?

[@lucatheghost]

It's really interesting to me how the rate of these showmances has accelerated. Like these examples go season 5, then fastforward to season 11, but then it's every season since.

[@sagecorduroy]

the jorgeous x orion ship in S14 was soooo awkward

[@cretoxyrhina9473]

Fr it felt very weird

[@faithbustos611]

u know what’s something u didn’t touch on.. the fact queens on the show have actually dated.. like Sahara(rip) and manila.. or sharon and Alaska.. ik they didn’t compete on the same season.. but a ship like Sharon and Alaska was SO popular.. i think it kind of set a president for drag race ships.. and I think ppl just like a good romance story.. like the push for Alaska to win and have a ‘Royal’ couple was so heavy. I think those relationships helped show the impact to a show relationship happening.

[@LezbeOswald]

i don't like the idea of "shipping" real people. always comes off a bit weird to me. i'm not gonna act like i don't love watching two queens get really close to each other, but i couldn't care less whether they're a couple or just really good friends

[@trueblue96CFC]

Denali was done dirty and I hope she comes back for an All Stars series

[@merwanerants1917]

I can't believe u missed the opportunity to write "lets get shippening" on your thumbnail :(

[@everydayLMK]

Hey Siri, play “I’m In Love” by The Cast of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars 5 🌟💕

[@scottsummers4234]

I always cringe with these romantic storylines on drag race 😂😂😂

[@MylingCyrus]

I hate ships so badly. Faking relationships is boring and stupid and a waste of screen time when there's way under edited queens who deserve screen time

[@amydaskilewicz9076]

I always thought that Brooke and Vanje made a cute couple. I'm a fan of opposites attract pairs :-)

[@ItzzchMps]

You forgot the first relationship between Akasha and Legend Tammie Brown

[@notanotherhimbo5060]

Wasn't the first ship Sahara and Manila? Either way, great video!

[@yo_gabygabba]

he probably meant ships that were featured on the show and pushed by the edit. Sahara was on season 2 and Manila on 3. Probably the same reason why he didn’t mention the most popular Sh*ron and Alaska. RIP Sahara 🤍

[@Babyvalkyie]

I am a person who usually dislikes shipping pretty much all the time. Whether it's RPDR, anime, live TV whatever. But with Jinkx and Ivy Winters I damn sure came close. So even if I don't like it, I understand 🤣

[@Danny-jr3uy]

THESE QUICK VIDS ARE SO CUTE AND STILL RLY WELL MADE

[@salazarcullen]

I've just recently found your channel, and I'm loving it already. Loving all the analysis you do of the situations.

[@LegendoftheGalacticHero]

Ok,, but after seein ghte untucked from two episodes ago in All stars, in the words of the girls "Who is *ucking Monet?"

[@SushiPowah]

This

[@corazones_rotos84]

honestly? they should change the format and put them all in a house, Big brother style, and let them interact with each other all the time. It really rubs me to wrong way knowing they're confined to their own rooms while they're not in the set, they're not allowed to talk to eachother unless the cameras are filming, it just feels very stifling and I understand why many queens just burn out half way through a season.

[@rakyy22]

This remind me when I used to ship Pearlet (Pearl + Violet) 😂

[@jenellienostrabo]

Violet and Miss Fame.... Have you watched "I Run the Runway" music video? lol :)

[@rakyy22]

@@jenellienostrabo True but I see them more like sisters, but I love their friendship so much! 🥰

[@heybagley]

"Dating or Hating" is a great name for a future TV game show! Also: Nina West out of drag in S11 is such a cutie!

[@lucymanger2222]

JACKFED UPLOAD!! REJOICE!!

[@Rosssums]

Awhora and Tayce had hooked up a few times before UK S2

[@luxxestone7462]

I love how much you stan the Miss You Much lip sync (and song in general) because me too janet forever

[@chlothes]

Just found your channel, and WOW i can’t stop watching 😂🤍 love these videos!

[@jacksonfogo2]

I love how weird this feels In my country, "Valentine's Day" is in July, when this video was uploaded, and I'm watching it during U.S.'s Valentine's Day

[@Momofan69]

Shipping is a consequence of having a show that appeals to a wide variety *cough* teens *cough*

[@Loplex02]

Your intro basically was like “I’m gay…….. actually I’m not” 😂 love your vids keep the content up🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@aljanecunanan9074]

Angie and vangie really love's ballerina same goes to manila lol HAHAHA

[@obibraxton2232]

Appreciate your honesty Jack ! I don’t want a sound like a hater but I’ve never been a fan of most of the relationships I’ve seen or heard about on drag race 🤧🫠 I think of drag race was like ANTM (like the name sake was a an inspiration for the show) but if we saw them interact in the house maybe that be better but tbh I don’t like seeing relationships on reality tv in general even if it’s genuine the outlook will always look like a showmance and fake to me.

[@Kinplaylists]

I remember how damn confused I was looking on tumblr and seeing Biadore- No problem with platonic and some dream duos but relationships?? Cmon now, Drag is complicated already yall.

[@emersonertz9144]

personally i will never forget sharon and alaska being called “the royal couple” for soooo long imo they were the first to sensationalize the idea of a drag race couple

[@evanc7539]

Plane Jane and Nymphia Wind.

[@lollydolly4590]

I was so confused for a sec I was like wait is is february

[@Blejzak]

Thanks for uploading! Made my evening :D

[@Iuxinterior]

people who ship real life people are something else

[@nayaspatton3369]

Camgeria is my personal fave!

[@laylasterling]

Idk if you would consider doing a big brother video at some point but I would love that!

[@iceetas]

i never really got into shipping the queens bc they're there for a competition and i feel like production pushes it too much sometimes but if i was competing i'd definitely crush on someone there so i get it lol

[@itsjustzephyr]

I’m honestly of the opinion that if you’re gonna pursue a relationship storyline, just let it happen naturally… plus everything is so much more awkward and uncomfortable when it’s forced, for the queens AND for the audience (EDIT) It’s so much nicer when something gets itself off the ground rather than having production strap a firework to its back and telling us it flies

[@algagail]

Hi Jack! I'm one of your new viewers. Your content and point of views are timely and phenomenal! I'm curious though, what's your take on the top 4 of this all stars all winners season having 3 winners from an all stars season and only 1 winner from a regular season?

[@packnetadaija]

I loved seeing Branjie!!!

[@Ahmed-gv2yo]

bruh i legit jumped and thought we were actually in February...

[@SushiPowah]

Utica and Olivia Lux from Season 13 were cute. A lot of their interactions seemed shady, but it makes sense that it was rooted in the awkwardness of a budding relationship. I think they went on one date after the show, but I'm not sure of their status now.

[@onlyanuli]

your camden impression was beautiful

[@daandejonge4103]

Great content as always! Also, you are handsome my guy 😚

[@doryangromdizdarevic]

Waitttt. Angeria and Camden, awhora and tayce, and vanjie and Brooke all were runner up and 5th place wtfff

[@maremig]

also, i don’t know if this is a ship but utica and olivia lux going on a date…? i’m like 80% sure that happened

[@SushiPowah]

Came here to add this haha

[@JDoradoTube]

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[@Никодя]

Love your videos

[@boricuamorena6646]

we see angeria and willow cuddling together way more than angie and camden and look at willow's reaction in the reunion when they bring up angie and camden. 👀

[@333nik8]

it was a storyline to justify them being saved in the finale, but they're really good friends anyway

[@Robertdbd20]

Relationship = clout Its sad but true. The same way sad back story = win. on most talent TV shows

[@tchaugn]

oh woww Jinkx hairline!! it looks better now than 10 years ago! good for ha

[@eririe1451]

Im serious but rupaul drag race have saved me from killing myself. This series have really cheered me up at the times when i feel like im losing all hope

[@JacksonMarvel]

I don't think the forced relationship edits are for the gay male fans, I think it's a trope added to appeal more to the straight identifying female audience.

[@selalewis9189]

That’s really condescending to straight women.

[@princessfaust]

@@selalewis9189 why?

[@tjsquibbofficial]

@@selalewis9189 I mean, that doesn'r really matter. It's just an opinion. Besides, this person has a point.

[@mesmoe-rizing]

I got an ad for lip and cheek filler. Iconic.

[@diegollanos9078]

at the end of the day, they all seem to be very good friends

[@GoopuLoopyDroopy]

Don’t forget about kameron Michaels and vanjie

[@eatingyourhands5129]

Honestly I just don't like "shipping" real people because their real people who have real relationships.

[@lucienlodger]

it probably would have made the video darker but sharon and alaska really should be discussed because alaska is really the only one who genuinely suffered in the competition due to the relationship, spending all of S5 trying to prove herself as not a diet sharon needles

[@zenzenn9789]

my fave is bob and derrick

[@hotsupidcat]

ok but what about the newest newest ship halal bae and jada shada hudson

[@rosswell6884]

Damn, not mentioning the OG Shalaska?

[@bensadowitz3741]

Fun fact: this video was uploaded just 2 weeks before the jewish "valentine's day" so... great timing!

[@sarahpark6338]

i would defos say that carmen and dovima (españa1) were my fave couple. you had the pretty girl who was good at pretty much anything n the moody goth girl who struggled but obvs didn't want to show those weaknesses. you could tell they had some sort of connection by ep.2 n it wasn't until a few more eps in that the producers saw what was happening. i feel like it was a vv natural progression n they're still really close after the show