The Weymouth Harbour Tramway: A Seaside Oddity Soon To Be Lost? | Another Station, Another Mile #14

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AJ Omega

AJ Omega

4 жыл бұрын

For as long as rail travel has existed in Britain, the railways have been intrinsically linked to one place in particular - the seaside. Countless seaside towns in Britain can trace their history back to the arrival of the railways, as with them came freight for cargo ships, boat trains for passenger ferries, and tourists wanting a nice trip to the beach. Weymouth was one such town to benefit from this rise in prosperity, but while a station some distance from the seafront was adequate, what if the trains could run all the way through the town itself, along public roads, right up to the Weymouth Quay to pick up and set down both cargo and passengers for ships in the port? Back in 1865, that idea was realised - and here is the result. Welcome folks to the curious story, of the Weymouth Harbour Tramway!
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@davidaylett8126
@davidaylett8126 Жыл бұрын
I remember sitting in the Ship Inn one August in the 80's. "Martin", I said to my mate, "Can you see a bloomin' great train going past the pub?". He looked over his shoulder, "Yes", he said. "Good", I said, "So can I".
@MrVjjorge
@MrVjjorge 4 жыл бұрын
We used to live on commercial road in the 70s and wave to ppl on the train from the first floor bay window, it was literally feet away and very exciting at the time
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Ah that sounds really cool! Imagine looking out your front windows and seeing a train rumble past on the road outside, so close you could almost touch it xD
@MrVjjorge
@MrVjjorge 4 жыл бұрын
Another Station, Another Mile it was amazing to see those big monsters up so close, quite frequently in the summer too, and the whole house used to shake when they trundled by
@RobertDodge
@RobertDodge 3 жыл бұрын
I am another local and remember going down in the 70's to watch the trains run along the tramway its such a travesty what Weymouth and Portland Borough council are planning to do ! But hey I am also good friends with Mark Poulton (The Weymouth Punch and Judy Man) and the council have not helped him in the slightest. Still a wonderful place to be associated with and the walk along the old railway route to portland is one everyone should do, stopping in at Sandsfoot Castle on their way.
@ianhudson9398
@ianhudson9398 3 жыл бұрын
Used to have family holidays,at least twice a year at Weymouth..... Travelled over the tramway quite a few times.... a few from it's last passenger stop for the loco change at Bournemouth.... but mostly thanks to friendly drivers from where the train used to stop and await it's escort car before entering Commercial Road..... vaguely remember the 03 diesel shunter that used to work the boat train in pairs in the early/mid 70s before the 33s took over..... I should have made the effort to do it with 37s and 73s in the early 90s but didn't..... shame it's gone...
@mikegillard7283
@mikegillard7283 4 жыл бұрын
Well done for the film, the historical value came across with your passion and informed commentary. Thanks for the dedicated approach regardless of the weather.
@nigelt1218
@nigelt1218 3 жыл бұрын
Caught a special train from Swindon to the Quay back in the mid 1980's. It wasn't a railway special, just an excursion train with a boat across to Jersey for a day trip. When we arrived at Weymouth, they attached a board with yellow flashing lights and a bell to the front of the class 33. In addition there was a police car in front and at one point the police and railway staff had to "bounce" (by hand) a car out of the way. The only downside to the day was leaving at 05:30 and getting back about midnight.
@vikingwoman1988
@vikingwoman1988 3 жыл бұрын
Hey from The States! We had entire trolley lines ripped out or paved over during the 1960s. So I feel your pain.
@williamkeffer8234
@williamkeffer8234 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from the philly suburbs, and at least here, I've been able to see the trolley line that ran by my house back when. Look it up on YT, and you may be able to find your own
@cjeam9199
@cjeam9199 3 жыл бұрын
Tram services (as in a light rail passenger mover) in the UK have a similar story. Bus companies were largely responsible for their demise.
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat 3 жыл бұрын
vikingwoman1988 That was because the oil, tyre, and car companies bought public transport up then eliminated it. Los Angeles used to have one of the best public transportation systems in the world.
@williamkeffer8234
@williamkeffer8234 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjeam9199 same here
@blauckner
@blauckner 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the boat trains in the 1950s crawling through Weymouth streets headed by a GWR "Matchbox" pannier tank. I think that those were the only BR engines small enough to be allowed on the line. And yet the Class 33 diesels were used later.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Strange how that works, right? :)
@jeremypreece870
@jeremypreece870 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this line well. As a young lad, whenever we went to Weymouth for the day I would watch the train run along this route. There were about two trains a day each way. When I was very young there was a bit of freight as well with tankards in the sidings. Once we went on the ferry from Weymouth and had to wait on board, for the train to deliver foot passengers. I am talking about the 1970's. I'm sad that it is in such a state now and thought that they should have done something with it during the Olympics in 2012.
@alexhando8541
@alexhando8541 3 жыл бұрын
I bet Weymouth council will be kicking themselves in 30 years time...
@acliptic317
@acliptic317 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm honest Dorset County Council never know what they're doing 😂
@jackchatfield5464
@jackchatfield5464 3 жыл бұрын
Dorset County Council. Should....... LEAVE it Alone!
@EricTViking
@EricTViking 3 жыл бұрын
Weymouth council aren't that intelligent, they really don't have a clue what they are doing, and really don't care either.
@cjeam9199
@cjeam9199 3 жыл бұрын
Eh I don’t think so. It’s very short, doesn’t have any space as a useful right-of way, and probably Weymouth doesn’t need a tram network 🤷🏻‍♂️
@OnTheMoveTransport
@OnTheMoveTransport 2 жыл бұрын
It was because nails killed bicycles and cars tyres. They could of cleaned it up. They don’t know what they are doing.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a train 'enthusiast', and I don't even know why I watched this video. But, I'm glad I did, because it was fascinating, and your presenting was really good to watch.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thank you :) and honestly, compliments from folks who aren't normally into train videos like this, mean a lot to me? Because I've managed to make you interested, and that's meant I've done my job ^_^
@RogerRoving
@RogerRoving 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a boat train going down this in the early 1980s, preceded by men with red flags. Extraordinary.
@annescholey6546
@annescholey6546 3 жыл бұрын
There was an unholy public ruck in 1993 when a motorist plonked his Sierra right on the track blocking 33109.
@XaviMacBash
@XaviMacBash 3 ай бұрын
I love the way this video is shot so much, the colour on all the shots looks so nice and it matches the mood.
@francisballyntyne6070
@francisballyntyne6070 3 жыл бұрын
What an incredible video from a very personable young man!! Im no spotter but the moment he mentioned Class 33, I immediately thought of 33109 which went past my house in Upway every day. Next shot, 33109. What a blast from the past and I'm only 45!! Shared!!
@privatejoker5403
@privatejoker5403 3 жыл бұрын
This needs to be a Heritage railway
@bennettgibson7287
@bennettgibson7287 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@selwyncarter3227
@selwyncarter3227 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. We Yanks follow British Rail news items very closely and we share your thoughts and ideas about preservation. Lots of that going on in your Country right now. Weymouth is special. I hope common sense prevails. The old Great Central could sure use some help! Lots of history there!
@braydonquek9340
@braydonquek9340 3 жыл бұрын
@@bennettgibson7287 Me too.
@bobtyler8374
@bobtyler8374 4 жыл бұрын
I always make sure to like your videos as soon as I watch them, the quality of video is excellent, especially compared to alot of channels with way more subs.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thats very kind of you to say, I appreciate it 😊
@craiggreen3512
@craiggreen3512 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Weymouth and it is a shame it's going but you have a council to contend with that won't listen to anyone except a chosen few land owners. Bright ideas like a stunning heritage line are lost in the mix.
@kellyparkstone3520
@kellyparkstone3520 3 жыл бұрын
Weymouth council wont listen. They just want done with it. They have an iconic railway, possibly of great heritage. They are missing on something here.
@Mishima505
@Mishima505 3 жыл бұрын
Could become a British version of the Molli.
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin 3 күн бұрын
It’s the rail industry that’s closed it down. Non electrified quayside running presents all sorts of problems not least with motive power and rolling stock. Let alone crewing and rostering.
@Korschtal
@Korschtal 3 жыл бұрын
There is a similar line in Zwickau in Germany, where heavy rail trains run along a tramway. Remarkably the tramway is even dual gauge with the trams being metre gauge, although as far as I know the streets are largely pedestrianised.
@martinevans7090
@martinevans7090 4 жыл бұрын
10:44 Ma-ree-na, not ma-rinner. #justsayin
@jobell7356
@jobell7356 3 жыл бұрын
🙄 you'd hate the way my dialect pronounces it 😁
@pingpongpung
@pingpongpung 3 жыл бұрын
It's: "saying", not: "sayin".
@VickersDoorter
@VickersDoorter 3 жыл бұрын
@@pingpongpung Indeed. A classic case of glass houses and stones.
@RUFU58
@RUFU58 3 жыл бұрын
12:20 the person on the mobility scooter drove into the river because they were staring 😆 I thought I heard a splash a few seconds after they leave the screen.
@realcanadian96
@realcanadian96 3 жыл бұрын
I heard it too XD
@RHaenJarr
@RHaenJarr 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, perfect xD
@jappedut9009
@jappedut9009 3 жыл бұрын
Something definitely happened 😂
@danw1374
@danw1374 3 жыл бұрын
I had to look again after reading your comment. That was hilarious 🤣
@underwaterdick
@underwaterdick 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video AJ! Thanks for sharing. I live not far down the Dorset coast from Weymouth (you will have passed by my local station on your way) and the tramway has always fascinated me, as many disused lines do. I am sure you have seen some of the great videos on KZbin of the line in use, and the effort involved in trying to run a train down there. You are right about getting to see it whilst you can, there are many things over the years that I wish I had taken more time to look at or document, knowing that they would be gone one day. But always put it off, and it becomes too late. If you enjoy these unique lines, you should take a trip to Southampton and check out what you can of the dockyard branch there. Once used for taking cruise terminal passengers on prestigious trains to luxury cruises, and now used for mass freight. The dockyard branch crosses a very busy road and needs quite a bit of work to prepare for a crossing and stop traffic. Also some videos in KZbin of trains crossing in recent years. Keep up the great videos, all the best.
@tyler.trahan
@tyler.trahan 4 жыл бұрын
What a neat oddity. I'm glad I discovered your channel. As an American inexplicably fascinated by British railway history, your candid explanations and use of whiteboard maps are much appreciated, especially given my gaps in historical and geographical knowledge. If I could make a suggestion: I'd love to see more period photos incorporated to illustrate your detail-rich monologues and connect the past to the present.
@JawTooth
@JawTooth 3 жыл бұрын
I love filming freight trains that run down the middle of the roads. We still have dozens of them in USA that are still in use. I sure would like to see one running in Weymouth
@fatwalletboy2
@fatwalletboy2 3 жыл бұрын
money to rip up a tramway that really isnt causing any issues but no money for the homeless. i love the quirky nature of this line with the class 33s trundling along it back in the day.
@JawTooth
@JawTooth 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video my friend!
@jappedut9009
@jappedut9009 3 жыл бұрын
A very informative and interesting story about a short piece of railway 🧐🤔😀
@pwhitewick
@pwhitewick 3 жыл бұрын
Great little video. Thanks for sharing.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you! That's very kind of you to say :)
@MrAmsnick
@MrAmsnick 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the trains on route to the Channel Islands, great nostalgic thank you
@AdrianChips
@AdrianChips 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very well produced. Good on you for capturing the line before it disappears, too
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ^_^
@stevecowin5403
@stevecowin5403 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very well presented! I used the line three times. Can remember drifting past a pub and almost being able to pull a pint through the sliding vents we were that close! Happy green coach days.
@HagiaSophia1952
@HagiaSophia1952 3 жыл бұрын
Nice piece of nostalgia, Adam. What a fright it must have given any motorist, not anticipating he/she would be sharing the public road with a full-sized locomotive! The town of my adolescence - Ramsgate, in Kent - even had a station on the Ramsgate Sands, reached through a massive tunnel from the Town Station.
@DrWhoFanUK
@DrWhoFanUK 3 жыл бұрын
A good subject for another video maybe? In fact the Ramsgate tunnel branched off around Dumpton, from the 1930s however the bench was unused and instead a light-rail shuttle ran through the tunnel from a terminus that is now a used-car lot. Passengers had to alight at Dumpton Park and walk to the other terminus. The tunnels are open as a visitor attraction and well worth a visit.
@greedycapitalist8590
@greedycapitalist8590 3 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed. Weymouth used to be my parents' favourite holiday destination, so we visited it many times when I was a kid. I thought I knew the town fairly well, but I had no idea this line existed. Funny the things you can overlook.
@johnd6487
@johnd6487 4 жыл бұрын
Way back in the late 70’s I have fond memories of day trips to Weymouth, and the thrill of watching a train go past so close you could reach out and touch it (not that my dad would have let me get remotely close enough). My introduction to KZbin was coming across a video of the tramway in operation, it’s a few years back, so I’ve no idea if it’s still listed. It seems mad that as we’re all told it is time to abandon our cars yet another part of, what could be, our connected public transport network is being ripped up instead of refurbished.
@geoffking2425
@geoffking2425 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Guernsey and as a child went on this train with my family. It was a big thing then
@lewisdolan6990
@lewisdolan6990 3 жыл бұрын
I work in that Aldi I got to go on that tramway when I was a kid but didn't appreciate it as much as I should. Very good video
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 3 жыл бұрын
I find myself wondering how you have so few subscribers. Excellent channel. Great video. Thank you.
@webrarian
@webrarian 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done, and a welcome introduction to your channel. I travelled on this in a boat train from Waterloo in 1980, followed by a Force 9 storm during the crossing to Guernsey. Blame all the people who chose flying over the ferries for killing this off.
@NathanChisholm041
@NathanChisholm041 3 жыл бұрын
Thats progress buddy! Expect more to come....
@SleemC
@SleemC 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, I remember seeing the trains running down the street on holidays in the 1980s.
@ianburit3705
@ianburit3705 3 жыл бұрын
I first went on the boat train in 1956 as an 8 year old with my late Nan And Grandad on our way to Jersey by Steam Boat.. Fast forwards to the 1990`s and my son was living there, so before i left for the drive home we had a walk round the harbour.. Then we saw the police moving cars parked wrongly along Harbour side. Not long after came a special train pulling dining coaches for travellers on a day out on a train.. By chance / fate we was there to see all this.. Countless Holidays In Weymouth has seen us drive the road of far magical memories for me and that will never go..
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, what lovely stories! Thank you for sharing them :)
@IndigoJo
@IndigoJo 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of rail links to minor ferry ports have closed over the years: Tilbury Riverside, Dover Western Docks, Newhaven Marine. Weymouth Tramway probably ran into the ground because it was difficult to keep it clear as it wasn't used that often unlike a modern tramline which has trams along it every five minutes, like Croydon where I used to live. It was probably quicker to simply travel into Weymouth station and take the bus or taxi to the harbour if you weren't driving and the fact that no train could serve both stations probably contributed to the harbour tramway's decline (plus electrification, and you can't apply 3rd rail to a street line). In fact, the ferries out of Weymouth have stopped because the company running them decided to use Poole instead.
@zoeaustin88
@zoeaustin88 4 жыл бұрын
Been to weymouth on hoilday and i have seen the tramway and i never really knew about the history of it good to know
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I like to do in this series is shine a light on hidden railway secrets and stories you might walk past and easily miss in everyday life. Now you know what those random tracks in the road at Weymouth are about now! 😆
@selwyncarter3227
@selwyncarter3227 4 жыл бұрын
We visited the UK ( from the US ),for my nephew’s wedding and we were fortunate to be able to walk the waterfront section of this ‘ tramway’! We saw the historic poster of the last train to Weymouth Harbor, and while very enlightening, also saddening-that was in July 2017! What an incredible legacy! You don’t appreciate the real value of anything, until it’s no more! Then it’s too late! A special trip, once or twice a week, might reawaken public awareness, as to the value of this regular railway, tramway! May she live forever!
@Otacatapetl
@Otacatapetl 3 жыл бұрын
@@selwyncarter3227 In English (as opposed to American), it's a tramway. Just accept it.
@blue9multimediagroup
@blue9multimediagroup 3 жыл бұрын
@@Otacatapetl there isn't a tram involved though....
@Otacatapetl
@Otacatapetl 3 жыл бұрын
@@blue9multimediagroup There doesn't have to be.
@Panpan1568
@Panpan1568 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. I caught a train there to the ferry in 1981, it was great and very convenient. I have visited in more recent years and like you, find it fascinating!
@davecroad6277
@davecroad6277 7 ай бұрын
I remember watching the train going down to the harbour what a brilliant sight it was
@koksy
@koksy 3 жыл бұрын
Went on holiday there in about 1986 and I can remember being stood on Commercial Road by the car park watching the train coming down the street with the train staff walking it through. As it kid it was so cool to see!
@hoofie2002
@hoofie2002 3 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen one of your videos - very enjoyable and great presentation considering the pissing rain! Subscribed 👍
@grimpeursdusud1533
@grimpeursdusud1533 3 жыл бұрын
I did this in the 80s on a regular service; they even put a Southern green Channel Islands Boat Train headboard on the 33 at Bournemouth.. They had to send men in front of the train on foot to lift cars away from the track whose drivers didn't believe the line was in use!
@johnyoungieyoung123
@johnyoungieyoung123 3 жыл бұрын
I once went on vacation for a week to Weymouth. I went to the station to see some 33's I then saw a southern ranger advertised. I spent very little time in Weymouth that week. I had heard that if cars were parked over the lines, multiple people would try and jump on the suspension and hop the car off the lines. Great days and 33/1 haulage.
@VVellieMan
@VVellieMan 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the vid AJ. Thanks for taking time and trouble to capture this line before it, potentially, disappears...
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was worth braving the horrible weather in the end. 😊
@selwyncarter3227
@selwyncarter3227 3 жыл бұрын
We call it ‘street-running’ here in the states and the entire track down Main Street was removed and replaced with new cross ties and rail.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Finally got round to watching this video, brilliant to watch, I managed to get to Weymouth Quay back in 2019 which was more sunny than the weather you had but it is disappointing that they knocked the station building down and ripped the rails up. Also remember watching a cab ride video that you even saw the men moving the cars out the way as well, About 4 or 5 people dragging a car across the road
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
It was such an incredible oddity! I'm honestly quite depressed that it was, at such great expense, wiped from existence and next to no effort to save any of it as a historical document was even made. Such stunning short-sightedness.
@86Dillan
@86Dillan 4 жыл бұрын
This channel needs more views/subs it's a very good British Railway channel
@1171karl
@1171karl 3 жыл бұрын
According to wikipedia - In February 2020, it was reported that £1.1 million had been awarded by the British Department for Transport to facilitate the removal of the track as it was "In a deteriorated state" and was no longer usable
@chrisb2792
@chrisb2792 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video. It reminded me of the railtour I was on which traversed the tramway and may have been the last train that did so.
@GarethHowell
@GarethHowell 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a train come down to the harbour when I was in Weymouth on holiday in August 1976. The train was accompanied by big guys from the local fire brigade. Their job was to bounce parked cars out of the way. Great fun watching.
@EdWhizAviationTrains
@EdWhizAviationTrains 3 жыл бұрын
So sad to see this is coming to an end, I Just Subscribed 👍😎
@zabeerrashid8148
@zabeerrashid8148 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great and informative vlog. My girlfriend and I love weymouth and we walked along the tracks to the abandoned station in December.
@doveronefoxtrot4417
@doveronefoxtrot4417 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing live trains in the town in the 1970's. They used to travel at walking pace with a guard walking in front.
@sianmickiewicz4877
@sianmickiewicz4877 3 жыл бұрын
All are informative comments - lovely vid- Ian
@wainwright3
@wainwright3 Жыл бұрын
Excellent report, congrats on your dedication and passion despite the weather. It's a crying shame they are doing this. Probably all gone now as this was three years ago. 😞
@ianjackson6751
@ianjackson6751 3 жыл бұрын
It is a pity that the council is tearing it up but they are going a head with it . Will be another bit of history exsponged for ever good video cheers.
@gorkyshaw
@gorkyshaw 3 жыл бұрын
Good capture. According to Wikipedia, the line has now been dismantled.
@twistedcheese1
@twistedcheese1 4 жыл бұрын
Love this more documentary style videos you do
@metrebot
@metrebot 3 жыл бұрын
You make great videos.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@Neil.S
@Neil.S 3 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to see this almost twice a day growing up, just outside my back door, while living in one of the guest houses opposite the fright dock. One of the guests was so exited, they ran out to see it and neglected to throw on some clothes. The passengers waved and pointed in support. I think they have already stopped traffic along the harbour, but unfortunately this may be to pull up the lines. This needs to be a Heritage railway.
@renard801
@renard801 3 жыл бұрын
The reason they have stopped vehicular traffic around the harbour during daytime is to avoid holidaymakers having to crowd the pavements, thereby not 'social distancing' during Covid-19.
@cookandinspire
@cookandinspire 4 жыл бұрын
Cookandinspire checking in with you bro new friend. Thank you for the historical details i am definitely interested in this .Good for learning. See you soon
@Denjasaurus
@Denjasaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@xxxangel77xxx
@xxxangel77xxx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Weymouth and I didn't know half of this, it's actually pretty interesting but living there I barely even noticed the tram lines!
@danw1374
@danw1374 3 жыл бұрын
The track was cut up and lifted several years ago now :-(
@facelessnomore
@facelessnomore 3 жыл бұрын
I went on this line in the early 70's. Didn't know it existed and was most surprised (in a good way).
@vickielawless
@vickielawless 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant video on a unique but now lost railway. We went there in Jan 2023 and almost nothing remained of the tramway. It survived Dr. Beeching, but not the local council. What a waste..
@stephenjenkins10
@stephenjenkins10 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I had never heard of this line before and didn’t even know that it existed. It must have been really strange, seeing full-sized trains running down the street on a tramline; shame I never got to see it.
@bucephalus00
@bucephalus00 4 жыл бұрын
There is a similar thing in Trafford Park in / near Manchester. Never seen any footage of it in use and the lines cross and straddle the roadways rather than run along them.
@Hannah_taylor1237
@Hannah_taylor1237 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Lea-Alex some of it got removed recently when you built the metrolink line
@toddhunter3137
@toddhunter3137 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the tracks in Trafford Park have been ripped up now, however if you walk along Ashburton Road West there's still a few remnants of the rails and there's even still a few road signs warning drivers of trains.
@mal_752
@mal_752 2 жыл бұрын
Trafford Park railway shut in 1998. Barton Dock Rd freight line to the terminal closed in 2014. Still some tracks remaining.
@HughTerry69
@HughTerry69 3 жыл бұрын
Senseless vandalism to dig up this historic track which ought to be upgraded and maintained as a useful tram facility. Totally agree with your conclusion!
@samgregory7266
@samgregory7266 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but maintaining a shared space between full sized trains, cars and pedestrians sounds pretty unsafe. Sure we got along all those years just fine but I can't think of an example of anywhere else in Britain where such a scenario exists today. Sure it'll be sad to see it go but it sounds like it's useful life is up.
@gennieseaview3656
@gennieseaview3656 3 жыл бұрын
@@samgregory7266 I used to holiday in Weymouth from the 70s upwards and saw the 'boat train', come and go regularly. There was no problem with cars (other than badly parked or people didn't read the signs) or pedestrians, it never felt unsafe walking along side it as it made its way to the ferry, (and I was a kid), we had the sense to not get to near it and get out of the way, if we were on the track ahead. The train had two or three guards walking in front of it to warn people, and people got out of the way. The guards (along with the police) would bump cars off the track or if they were sticking out onto it. The train didn't come down the track at speed. Perhaps people had more respect for the rules then and used their common sense, unlike now, when they have to be warned a hot drink may be hot! It was sad when the trains stopped along with ferries. I think that did a lot of damage to Weymouth's tourism, as people came to see the train, as it was so unique.
@robdingwall03
@robdingwall03 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video for those who never knew or visited. I lived in Weymouth for 7 or 8 years in the 80’s and witnessed a number of movements on the line, yes including rail staff physically bouncing cars out of the way! The local council then lacked foresight, they even considered filling in the back harbour, the only harbour of any size between Poole and Torbay!!!! Anecdote: In town one day and heard a lad (obviously on holiday ) say “Dad, Dad, there’s a train coming down the street, look Dad look.” Dad’s response was to clip him round the ear and say “Don’t be stupid, get over ere’ and unceremoniously dragged him away, Hey Ho.
@goooble125
@goooble125 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I'm from Weymouth!
@cksbricks7791
@cksbricks7791 3 жыл бұрын
Weymouth Council in my view take a long time to make decisions but when they do they are very short sighted. Deleting heritage and history is a terrible shame and unfortunately Weymouth seems content on doing this.
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 3 жыл бұрын
Walking out of my office for lunch in Zurich Switzerland (2017) there was a full size diesel loco running slowly on semi unused tram lines on the pavement. Boy it looked huge. Two men walked in front scraping dirt out of the lines and bumping cars out of the way where they were parked a bit close. It was pulling open top wagons where demolition rubble was being taken away for disposal. Looked strange and very neat.
@jeffbozoz
@jeffbozoz Жыл бұрын
this is lovley because my great grandad worked on this railway
@white-dragon4424
@white-dragon4424 Жыл бұрын
A bit of advice about the weather, try going between April and September (possibly October) if you want good weather, rather than what looks like December to February. As for stupid closures, you should check out the Bridport branch line just down the coast from Weymouth, which closed in the mid 70's, and that's something they're now regretting, immensely.
@geoffreyhobbs1548
@geoffreyhobbs1548 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on a great video. The first time I went to Weymouth was in the mid 1950s on my way with my parents to the Channel Islands. Trains from Waterloo to Weymouth were steam hauled and terminated at the station in the town. We travelled from Woking to Weymouth because we lived much nearer to Woking Station than Reading Station where we would have had to have gone to catch the "Boat Train", as it was called, so we walked from the town station to the ferry. This was OK because we had sent most of our luggage in a cabin trunk PLA (Passenger Luggage in Advance, now a lost and nearly forgotten service.) Later in the day, while sitting on the deck of the ferry, we saw a train - very much a full size one - come round the tramway hauled by a diesel shunter rather than the main line loco that would have hauled it from Paddington. Yes, the shunter had a bell on the front rung manually by what looked like a rope back to the shunter's cab. This was the "Boat Train" arriving. (There are some videos of trains on this Tramway on KZbin.)
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, what a fabulous story! Thank you for sharing. Class 03 shunters I believe would've handled things if it was a diesel shunter I believe?
@geoffreyhobbs1548
@geoffreyhobbs1548 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyItsAJOmega It certainly was a diesel shunter.
@_wood
@_wood 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, this reminded me of the Huddersfield narrow canal in the east of greater Manchester ... closed and filled in with a few slum garage businesses and supermarkets built on the line of the canal. A huge cost to fill in and build over. All value in the surrounding Mill properties lost, Mills left derelict. The Huddersfield canal was reinstated at another huge cost but now attracts canal traffic tourism and the realisation that the waterside adds greatly to the value of the old cotton mills which are now attracting inwards investments and are are providing up market attractive living spaces in what was a waste land of brown field sites. Also lots of nice bars restaurants and a general uplift in the area.
@johnmurrell3175
@johnmurrell3175 3 жыл бұрын
I remember travelling along this piece of line in the 1970's to catch the ferry to Guernsey. I can't remember what sort of locomotive hauled the train - this was pre the Bournemouth Electrification so trains to Weymouth were loco hauled from Bournemouth.
@TonySmith-cd7jo
@TonySmith-cd7jo 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I remember tank wagons trundling down the middle of the street. I also seem to recall Class 37s going down there which is much larger than a 33.
@send2gl
@send2gl 3 жыл бұрын
There are still some full size trains that run through towns in US. Saw one where loco had to stop and ask badly parked car to move.
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Chicago South Shore and South Bend runs down the middle of 11th and 10th street.
@wessexwench6974
@wessexwench6974 2 жыл бұрын
I was born on Portland, and live in Weymouth. As a child, we still had a rail service from the Island to Weymouth, which was scrapped decades ago. It’s odd how much us residents take things like the ‘boat train’ for granted. It wasn’t special because it was always there. I cursed the tramlines myself a few times when I rode my motorbike over them in the rain, but they were part of the town. It’s only now that I realise how lucky we were, and how unique it is to have a train snaking its way through very narrow sections of quayside, while a crew ‘bumps’ rogue cars out of the way. We lost our ferry service to Poole, an inferior port financially, because our council did not maintain the quay berths, and they became unstable. The Pavilion Theatre at the Quay was sold, as was our historic Guildhall. We have nothing left, which is why the tramlines are being pulled up and sold for scrap. Weymouth could not manage its money. I don’t know any resident who is glad to see this go. Like you, we hoped for a revival - special event journeys to the quay and back, just for fun. It could have been a huge asset to the town. I’m heartbroken that this really is the end of the line. It’s become very special now that we’re actually going to lose it. I’m sad that I spent so many years not really appreciating it - it was as common to us as a lamppost. I’m going to miss it.
@andyoncam1
@andyoncam1 4 жыл бұрын
Railway lines down a town's streets are still quite common in the USA where separation of rail traffic from the public is less severe than in the UK. There are several youtube videos of goods trains slowly negotiating their way along urban streets past badly parked vehicals, most notably along Schuyler Street in Utica, NY, to their destination at a local brewery.
@michaelgreen1515
@michaelgreen1515 3 жыл бұрын
I know it and I love it and I wish it could service a ship again. Also glad you like tea.
@pulaski1
@pulaski1 3 жыл бұрын
@14:04 From the perspective of July 2020, a "reopening" decision should not be rushed into! LOL Joking aside, this was an enjoyable video, and a very professional production.
@sambee8982
@sambee8982 4 жыл бұрын
We should stop the council from ripping up the tramway; I'd rather replace the rails and have parry people movers running along the line....
@camjkerman
@camjkerman 4 жыл бұрын
Or even take a leaf out of London's book back when trams were widespread there, most trams used an electric conduit buried beneath the roadway, with an insulating topper to protect the public walking over it, the topper having a slit big enough for the tram's contact to reach through, so they can run electric trams without needing overhead cables, which require a lot of infrastructure.
@gavinreid8937
@gavinreid8937 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, everybody but a council could see it could be a TRAM line. Borrow a spare from Blackpool or some working museum piece, , screw the lottery, get some volunteers together. Manchester, , Edinburgh & even Blackpool outwith the promenade got rid of the tram cause they got in the way of the car. Now theyre putting it all back & its costing them millions!
@CaseyJonesNumber1
@CaseyJonesNumber1 3 жыл бұрын
@@camjkerman while it may have been a lot neater in appearance, unfortunately the London tram conduit system was complex and very expensive to construct and maintain, when compared to an overhead system, and junctions were very complicated to build, adding to the high costs. By comparison, an overhead system is relatively simple and therefore cheaper to construct and maintain, but it's just not pretty...
@camjkerman
@camjkerman 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaseyJonesNumber1 I wasn't thinking on looks, I was more thinking on compactness. The Conduit system going into the road rather than a few feet above the roof of the tram would enable the trams to be as big and spacious as possible without the need for raising bridges.
@adamsgamesinhd1255
@adamsgamesinhd1255 3 жыл бұрын
The tramway causes lots of accidents with push and motorbikes. That’s the reason
@richardpettet9996
@richardpettet9996 3 жыл бұрын
There are some reports in local press that Red Funnel ferries who operate the Isle of Wight ferries are interested in running a ferry service to the Channel islands from Weymouth.
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Oooh, interesting!
@selwyncarter3227
@selwyncarter3227 3 жыл бұрын
Yay. Someone has their thinking cap on!
@Layla462
@Layla462 3 жыл бұрын
Being local to Weymouth, all of the line has been removed along Commercial road and the crossing at King Street. Part of its have been removed along the harbour side now. A small section has been kept between Kings Street and the bus depot. The Curve has been kept. The loading Dock was being a pain to remove as its in a concrete slab so the Dorset Council don't what it's going to do about it. I know that the tracks at the Quay station will be removed in 2021. Speaking to the work men it was going to be cheaper to remove the tracks than keep them and bring them back into use.
@TheCodeGaming
@TheCodeGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Big like from me ✌️
@marksinthehouse1968
@marksinthehouse1968 2 жыл бұрын
I traveled on the branch as a little 2 year old in 1970 when we went to jersey couldn’t make out why my train was on a road but grandad told me and said in the war he boarded a troop ship out to the middle east ,poor mum threw up on the crossing I don’t think me eating a sandwich Nan made in front of her helped ,😂but yes it should of been kept aspart of a tram ,light rail system and in these days of green transport perfect I’m with you and like beeching think before you close ,all the best I’ve subscribed too ,Mark 😊👍🏻
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner 3 жыл бұрын
A survey found that the old 1865 wooden sleepers had rotted away in many places and are now unsafe to prevent the rails spreading under rolling stock load, let alone a locomotive. these would all need to be replaced to make the tramway operational again. The location of the quay station is falling into the sea and has become dangerous, being beyond repair. This is why it is being demolished before it can fall down.
@peterobinson3678
@peterobinson3678 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that our family's old Ford Cortina featured prominently on a postcard of the Boat Train mack in the late 70's. I miss the old trains, and putting 2p coins onto the tracks before it came along...
@danw1374
@danw1374 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one who did that ;-)
@saltashtrainspotting2956
@saltashtrainspotting2956 3 жыл бұрын
I see you have included the I.K. Brunel bridge in the intro! It means a lot to me as I’m from Saltash :)
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, awesome! Yeah, that clip is from the Night Riviera episode. No joke, I woke up in my cabin on the train, opened the curtain and looked out the window, and it was the very first light of dawn just as we were crossing the Royal Albert Bridge into Cornwall. And that shot you see was literally me scrambling for my camera to capture the moment, in the very dim light of morning, with all the lights of the houses and boats in Plymouth and Saltash twinkling down below. It was one of the most special moments of my life ^_^
@thatSteveSmith
@thatSteveSmith 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy this video was randomly recommended by KZbin. Wrestling fan who likes trains.
@hans2406
@hans2406 3 жыл бұрын
I can only agree with you, the Weymouth Tramway is so unique it must stay where it is. There must be other uses available.
@steveh4290
@steveh4290 3 жыл бұрын
This is just the sort of quirky, unique rail or transport video that I like. Half way throu & I believe I will become a subscriber. EDIT: As I'm a huge wrestling fan, what was on your top at the end?
@HeyItsAJOmega
@HeyItsAJOmega 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's very kind of you to say :) As for my shirt, that would be the awesome Pro Wrestling SOUL promotion! Based in South London, I've been to their shows before and they are a great bunch of folks ^_^
@steveh4290
@steveh4290 3 жыл бұрын
Pro Wrestling Soul, I must admit as a fairly hardcore wrestling fan that's been to 3 Manias & travelled down to London for RevPro, Progress, etc I've not heard of them. I'll see if I can find anything on KZbin. EDIT: Just found their KZbin channel. I'll get watching. 👍
@laurencec09
@laurencec09 3 жыл бұрын
Mental that they won't even consider this as a tram line, the UK is lacking so badly in tram networks as opposed to other countries
@chrismccartney8668
@chrismccartney8668 4 жыл бұрын
Well done it would make a superb trams system as a holiday resort tramway and remive the cars and make quayside pedestrian area...
@selwyncarter3227
@selwyncarter3227 3 жыл бұрын
Chris McCartney YESSss!!!!
@falafel4618
@falafel4618 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! It's a shame that these links have gone (eg Newhaven Harbour and, more to the point, Dover)
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