The Who on Keith Moon's Death and his replacement

The Who - Pete Townshend, John Entwistle, Keith Moon, Roger Daltrey

[@JaymexR02]

I think Pete never really processed it as the fact it was, he was a lot closer to Keith than he lets on. He might've been expecting the inevitable for a long time, they had saved each others lives multiple times before Keith finally kicked the bucket.

[@vinceventresca6763]

I agree. Indeed, in his book, Pete said that never really learned to handle death. I mean, none of us really do handle it, but we each process Death by going through the various stages of grief, and then we move on. I don’t think that Pete works through Death like most of the rest of us, never truly learning to live with it like the rest of us, and ends up with a kind of Love/Hate relationship with the deceased.

[@gabe_s_videos]

I liked how he put it in the "Amazing Journey" documentary: "I kept turning around, expecting to see Keith, and he wasn't there."

[@slowery43]

I think you've never spoken to, met, or know any of them yet you seem to think people should care about your opinion as if it has any weight to it... crazy

[@kdlofty]

Keith didn't kick the bucket. He booted it right out of the stadium.

[@melancholia_94]

@@kdlofty in typical keith fashion

[@MikeGervasi]

Keith had everything stacked against him. His inner demons, his hyperactivity, idle time, and always feeling like he had to be on when anyone was around.

[@rafflesxyz4800]

Yeah he was a bit of a dick but we were sad when he snuffed it.

[@stevehammond9156]

Keith was one of the most unconventional but at the same time brilliant drummers of all time. His personality and addictions predictably ended in an early demise.

[@sexobscura]

pinned comment

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

John's smile was wonderful

[@l.salisbury1253]

...And Kenny Jones wins the not-so-coveted Shemp Howard Award for the thankless task of having to replace an irreplaceable performer...!

[@marcstevens8576]

Great way of putting it.

[@deforestthornburgh4464]

Nailed it.

[@plasticweapon]

he wasn't irreplaceable for me. i love kenney jones drumming for the who.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

Which sucks because Shemp is pretty damn funny.

[@Ojb_1959]

I saw The Who 7/7/80 in Baton Rouge and Kenny held his own. RIP KEITH🌚MOON

[@orionwarren4244]

Keith Moon used drums the way other musicians use their instruments: as a form of self-expression versus simple 'time keeping'.

[@diverdave4056]

and he was so good that no one has been able to play the drums just like Keith did ...

[@Kakyoinmilfhunter0712]

RIP Moon and Entwhistle

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

Entwistle

[@bird20040]

​@@sirandrelefaedelinoge enwissltle

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

​@@bird20040no

[@josephbuckley5961]

​@@sirandrelefaedelinogeyes

[@otisspunkmeyer9339]

@@sirandrelefaedelinogecome on man it was humor

[@JohnBarrylizard]

Keith Moon was an amazing drummer. I'm a rudimentary ordinary drummer and can do what most mediocre drummers can... keep 4/4 in time, a tasteful fill. I cannot play like Keith Moon. He was a genius drummer.

[@alanjamesh.zamorano1677]

Exactly bro. I also play a bit of drums and what Keith did at times was completely out of the box for rock music. Whenever I listen to Overture or Amazing Journey from Live At Leeds I can't help but smile at how effortlessly it sounds the way he flies all over the drums. But never missed a beat. His brain was definitely wired differently from everybody else.

[@JohnBarrylizard]

@@alanjamesh.zamorano1677 he is remarkable. I wonder how he came to be so good? Perhaps, as you said, "his mind was wired differently from everybody else".

[@mc76]

I play as well, and for decades, I could not figure out why he sounded so different from other drummers. Then, a buddy of mine who is a guitarist/keyboardist told me, "Moon didn't play the backbeat. He played the melody. Entwistle kept time." Mind blown. I went back and listened to the early Who records and damned if my friend wasn't spot on.

[@JohnBarrylizard]

@@mc76 thank you for the insight! I’m going to try this tonight.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

The Who were such a unique band: they had a lead drummer, a lead bassist, a lead singer, and a rhythm guitarist who wrote awesome songs. Nothing against Kenny as a person or as a musician but it was never going to work with a normal drummer.

[@mc76]

I recently saw a clip of The Who playing "Don't Get Fooled Again" live with Kenny, and it was so pedestrian. And Kenny's great, but it was like listening to a classical musician try to play a jazz solo off a chart.

[@satyrosphilbrucato9140]

The one Who classic that benefited most from Kenny's presence is "Eminence Front." Moon couldn't have played that hypnotic minimalist style if his life depended on it. Though Moon was my favorite Who drummer by far, Jones' steady timekeeping made that song possible.

[@danijelujcic8644]

spot on - I even heard one KZbinr a few years ago trying to play the song the way Keith (1978+) likely would've

[@davewestner]

Absolutely, and where he played the kick drum on that tune is perfect. It's a lot different vibe when the kick is in the predictable spot that it's been played for the last several years.

[@AvailableHandle]

It's not Kenney's fault that they were all out of good ideas after Who Are You.

[@katkk4096]

Rest In Peace Keith Moon and John Entwistle.

[@cgfftrophilessspursfan9952]

RIP Keith and John. 1/2 of the best band ever.

[@dougmurray7684]

Either Keith got lucky and his style just happened to fit so well with what Pete wanted to do; or he was really good at changing his style to fit with what a band wanted to produce. Either way, The Who is my fav band.

[@juanrozas727]

De lo mejor del rock en sus especialidades.

[@LousGuitarWorld]

Forever legendary

[@123jhouse]

Fucking hell, all these guys are/were such great artists!! The fact that we're still talking about them to this day proves it. Kenny Jones is a brilliant drummer in The Faces, he was just given impossible shoes to fill. It was never gonna work. All this music just seems to be getting better and better the further away we get from when it was made, like a fine wine.

[@timcolledge6813]

RIP Keith Moon 🙏

[@thecolourrose9022]

People always use the word replacement but the who and kenney himself say he couldnt be replaced and wasnt being replaced the who just had to change their sound

[@thomasrudy6132]

bad things happen when i buy Who concert tickets. 11 people died in cincinnati a week before i saw them in philly. John died right before the 2002 tour where i saw them in hershey, pa.

[@joeflint7798]

Kind of sad to see Moon's last kit in pieces as Kenney sets up and tries out his kit (which was a little smaller than what he later used on the 79 tour)

[@JackTheSkunk]

I know nothing about drummers but Keith Moon and Dino Danelli were alot of fun to watch back in their heyday.

[@alexjewell2351]

Were these vids from a Who documentary or something? Some great interviews in your KZbin collection, particularly with Pete, they all look to have been filmed at the same time, Mid 80's -early 90's maybe?? Thanks for uploading these snippets, I'd love to see the whole documentary if you could poont me in it's direction.

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

Some (if not all) are from the 1979 documentary Who:The Kids are Alright I think. It's on KZbin. Cheers

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

The interviews I'm searching for, if I find em I'll let you know.

[@alexjewell2351]

@@buckodonnghaile4309 I have seen that years ago, but didn't quite recognise these interviews from it. Although it was many years ago, my memory has probably just removed them 🙂

[@BrianKishreviews]

It's all from the Maximum R&B vhs but I'm still not sure what this Who Are You "film" is

[@kentl7228]

It's sad but at least they never got to fire him. Which was probably coming...

[@user-fu2mi1nd5l]

Might have been why Moonie took the OD

[@kentl7228]

@@user-fu2mi1nd5l I know he overdosed on pills to stop him drinking too much booze. The documentary on KZbin on the last 24 Hours of Keith Moon might scupper your guess

[@TheMusicalElitist]

They didn't treat Kenny properly.

[@TheGravygun]

I saw The Who 1989 a giant stadium 45 minutes of Tommy I was convinced from that point on

[@RC-gf8cs]

Got to see moon .1976 msg nyc who by numb tour....now? Im old

[@randyzeitman1354]

They should've rotated his body in the coffin like a AA battery to see if he turned on.

[@SL-vi4tk]

If Keith could've let others be the life of the party, he'd still be here

[@Charles-bo8wh]

No. If he had any knowledge of how medications work differently from unregulated drugs, then he would've not died that time.

[@Keith_M00N66]

"The Who" without Moonie = THE END. I don't say that just coz i LOOOIVEEEDDD this man and for many reasons BUT Keith was their soul, their energy, their publicity with all his "dramas" and he was a sweetheart IRL Daltrey said he could cry and laugh 50 times in a same day. At first, Pity said he seemed for him he missed a leg I didn't understand why like a catharsis, Pity didn't write a song for Moonie coz Keith is dead loving VERY MUCH Daltrey and John of course, or Ringo, or even Kenny BUT Townshend was his big bro ,he loved him from all his heart They would have changed the name of a band without a maestro OR Working on theirs own careers solo In a french documentary, Pity said he had conscience how much "they sounded different" Imagine Grohl and Novoselic saying in 94 "okay, Kurt is dead tragically BUT Nirvana is okay, we'll find a charismatic blond haired, blue eyed guy with a raspy voice." When "The Who" has been introduced in Rock n Roll hall of fame in 90 , they were named on stage with " The Keith Moon's band" and when we asked a word from the U2's drummer he said "Tribute to Keith Moon" and everyone chhered .. The promo video of "Who are you" showed HOW MUCH Moonie was genius, yes but soooo important for the whole group.

[@Mynamesalexa]

I could have replaced Keith Moon drum beat for drum beat. John Bonham too And that\s not even my drumming style I was in my prime back then.

[@user-fu2mi1nd5l]

Not Neil Peart though

[@Mynamesalexa]

@@user-fu2mi1nd5l I had a poor man's Neil Peart set

[@Mynamesalexa]

Saw him 4xs The Professor

[@warnold909]

What is this from?

[@brianbeckenbaugh4233]

The caption at one point says “From the 1979 film ‘Who Are You’”. So let’s find that!

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

England, I think.

[@5jerry1]

~ The first part is from the "Thirty Years Of Maximum R and B" video; it came in a box with a booklet, four CD set and a T-shirt.

[@SamuelLongo1776]

​@brianbeckenbaugh4233 Why you gotta be so mean about it? He was asking a genuine question.

[@warnold909]

@@5jerry1 Thanks! I obviously saw the Who Are You caption, but was curious about the opening interviews.

[@DAGDRUM53]

I saw The Who with Moon and with Kenny. Despite Kenny telling Pete he couldn't play like Moon, he sounded exactly like him, faithfully recreating the necessary classic fills, stops and starts, etc. But, honestly, I didn't enjoy a single Who song the band recorded after Moon's passing.

[@boataxe4605]

They should have quit like Zeppelin did. Some drummers can be replaced and some can’t.

[@kevinstimelsky673]

I agree,, But The Who owed their last two albums!!

[@davec2470]

Only a non Who fan would every say anything as stupid as that. Won't even get into the details since the level of your understanding is just too limited.

[@silversnail1413]

It actually gave them the opportunity to work with a competent drummer instead of some drunken manchild who bashed his kit like an organ grinder's monkey whacked out on speed. I love The Who and I respect Keith Moon but I would never rate him as one of the top drummers or compare him to Bonham, he was all flash and no chops and mostly known for his silly destructive antics.

[@boataxe4605]

@@silversnail1413 Some of the best rock & roll has been created by drunken menchildren on speed.

[@tomcarl8021]

Zeppelin could afford to quit, The Who couldn't. Did it ever occur to you that people need to make a living?

[@user-fu2mi1nd5l]

Wonder if Billy Shears knows why Moon took the OD

[@robsco1249]

They asked to Ian Paice but he refused.

[@PAULLONDEN]

one minute , vid👍🥴 Are you short on likes ?

[@fantomas3066]

Je trouve qu'ils n'ont pas perdu de temps à remplacer Keith, il est irremplaçable et ce groupe aurait dû mettre fin

[@echomcguire6045]

De toute façon, après sa mort, plus rien n'a été pareil. Les Who sont morts "créativement" parlant à ce moment-là. Après, ils ont tenté de pousser encore un peu le truc, mais c'était fini et Pete au fond le savait… Les années 80 ne leur ont jamais été. Ensuite, ils n'ont plus que rentabilisé sur leur glorieux passé et ils ont plutôt bien fait, car avec l'arrivée de Zak Starkey, ils ont retrouvé néanmoins un second souffle. Mais bon, les Who sans Keith, ce n'est pas le même groupe. Et encore moins depuis la mort de John Entwistle. Après, reste que Pete Townshend et Roger Daltrey sont des légendes et seront perçus comme tel jusqu'à la fin.

[@David-wk6md]

IN THE CORNER?

[@mikec7176]

Dont forget, Simon Phillips did a great job for the Who when he filled in after Keiths passing. 👍🥁👍

[@bent2]

Great drummer. But his drumming style didn't fit the band either. I have seen clips from the 89 tour. It sounds lacklustre.

[@TrenyCwm]

Simon Philips is incredible. A far better drummer than Keith really, though Keith's style became core to the traditional Who sound. Anything after that would sound, not quite right I suppose. Kenny Jones sounds great for the electro-pop underpinnings of Face Dances.

[@denizen9998]

Keith Moon, John Bonham and Ginger Baker. The three greatest drummers ever.

[@joesantamaria5874]

Or: Elvin Jones, Bernard Purdie, and Buddy Rich.

[@angelomezzadri2463]

Neil Peart, Carmine Appice, Vinnie Colaiuta...

[@nathaninostroza7655]

The three aforementioned are rolled in one, Ian Paice. Every bit of jazz grooves and melodic sense from ginger,wich many good 70s rock drummers lacked, the strength and bombastic thunder like grooving and fills of Bonham, and the unpredictably unorthodoux time signatures of Moon. Thats Ian Paice, and even more. And those who say Neil Peart (i love him and miss him so much) before naively taking him THAT high, go listen to Carl Palmer.

[@jaymercier1452]

Charlie Watts

[@carlweaver3243]

Keith Moon Jim Bonfanti Hal Blaine Jim Keltner Ringo Starr

[@_stardust62]

Keith is like Energizer batteries, when you saw Keith in his coffin you should have turned him around the other way and he would have popped back to life!!

[@slowery43]

guess that was supposed to be funny somehow... major fail

[@_stardust62]

@@slowery43 Steven Wright humor actually, doubt you're familiar with him so just stay unhappy behind your keyboard chump!

[@rpmhart]

@@slowery43 That's actually a Steven Wright line about his grandfather; it was meant to be loving, dealing with loss, but be honest: if somebody woulda told that concept to Moonie, he woulda larfed 'is arse off. I can hear him doing it.

[@lordofthemound3890]

I loved Kenney Jones in Faces, but I never thought he was a particularly good fit for The Who.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Moon's boozing was the cover for his coking. By today's definition, Keith was severely mentally ill.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

What do you think he would be diagnosed with?

[@mikamikkola4483]

@@TheKitchenerLeslie AD/HD at least. Mayby some another mentally ill too. And alcohol and drugs makes everything worst.

[@MikaelLewisify]

There’s nothing accidental about getting so drunk that you asphyxiate on your own vomit. That’s just stupidity.

[@bluecollar825]

That's not what happened tho but by all means judge away.

[@MikaelLewisify]

@@bluecollar825 not judging at all. It’s just a fact. He drank so much that it literally killed him.

[@bluecollar825]

@@MikaelLewisify Moon was definitely a raging alcoholic. However, he overdosed on prescription medication given to him for alcohol withdrawal. Then you proceeded to judge him by calling him stupid. That's a fact.

[@SamuelLongo1776]

​@@MikaelLewisifyWhat happened was he overdosed on some sort of prescription drug that was supposed to curb his alcohol cravings. In fact, it's said that when an autopsy was performed, most of the pills were still undigested.

[@Meme-zc4cw]

Moon was definitely NOT about keeping time. His meter was terrible but that wasn't what The Who was about. He was an entertainer and fit The Who perfectly.

[@robertlivingstone3364]

Terrible meter where? Which album? Which song?

[@Meme-zc4cw]

@@robertlivingstone3364 I can see for miles, Tommy, Who are you? Hell, watch the Woodstock performance. That was horrific time keeping, but who cares? This is before it was mandatory they have perfect polished recordings. Humans were allowed to be humans. It was also before they had lazy engineers that want you to play to a click so they can layer tracks on tracks instead of playing live like a real band does.

[@ikkenhisatsu7170]

I've been a drummer since Keith and The Who did Live At Leeds. You may have described Keith Moon perfectly.

[@ernestoclaudodip9671]

​​@@Meme-zc4cw Sorry but I think you don't understand about drumming.

[@robertlivingstone3364]

@@Meme-zc4cw Woodstock? You can barely hear the drums. It's one gig. Where is the meter off, exactly, on any song on Tommy ? The drumming is fantastic. Go away.

[@sexobscura]

Incredibly sad event PS: Rare shot of Entwhistle smoking ...