The wildest aircraft people THINK America operates in secret

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The United States has long led the world in fielding advanced new airpower technologies, from the first-ever miitary aircraft to the invention of modern stealth. But for every paradigm-shifting aircraft like the F-117 Nighthawk, B-2 Spirit or F-22 Raptor, there’s a long list of prototypes, technology demonstrators and design proposals that never see the light of day.
These classified aircraft programs serve as proof that America is keeping some of the most exotic flying platforms this world has ever seen tucked away behind the veil of classified funding... And that invariably leaves room for people to let their imaginations to run wild.
So, let's talk about some of the most famous (and controversial) secret aircraft the US has been alleged to operate.
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[@randyross5630]

I seen a "UFO" going over Pratt Pond (in Mason NH) which was not many Miles from an Airforce Base in Amherst NH by the way Birds Fly. But I just didn't think it was Alien, it looked like a Drone with a Pulse Drive, the End of it was Sci-Fi Like, and every Second or whatever it was it Pulsed with Energy which I assume was how it achieved Flight. I Should of Called the Air Force Base and Reported it, but I felt like it was one of ours...

[@secretbassrigs]

吃地沟油的一代人的毒性比想象的要大得多🤣🤣🤣🇨🇳👎 Read Microsoft's Cyber Security Report on China's social media influence campaigns. And definitely read Ground News.

[@steveshoemaker6347]

ALEX🇺🇸

[@seanbrazell7095]

And what happens when ground news becomes a single point of information failure? Outsourcing our ability to analyze things for ourselves isn't a good thing.

[@secretbassrigs]

CORRECTION: Operation Paper Clip happened before the end of WW2. The war in the Pacific only ended from its efforts.

[@MrWilderNapalm]

The mere fact the F-117 flew combat missions for a decade before being photographed answers the question of are we operating advanced aircraft the public is not unaware of.

[@JarrodFrates]

The F-117's first publicly released photo happened in Nov 1988, seven years after its first flight in Apr 1981 and six years after it achieved operational capability in Oct 1983. It had its combat debut during the invasion of Panama in 1989. Ten years prior to Panama, the F-117 was still a concept and Lockheed was still working out stealth details with the Have Blue program. There is no known combat use of the F-117 prior to Panama.

[@rcrdorvra]

In all fairness, there weren't that many cameras back then. Nobody was carrying one around all the time like we do now.

[@BlackHoleSun420]

@@JarrodFratesso 5 years? This reminds me of the current state of politics where Trump exaggerates some complete fact and truth but the Biden team can only critique the discrepancy rather than the substance of the argument 🤣

[@JarrodFrates]

@@BlackHoleSun420 No one is disputing that it was operational for five years before it was revealed to the public. There is zero evidence that it flew actual combat missions against opposing forces in that time.

[@jdl.1234]

@@JarrodFrates Panama was the first combat role for the F117....100%

[@rontonkin7751]

The Stargate program alone must cost multiple billions of dollars a year!

[@bertg.6056]

I'm a Fan of SG-1!

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

I assure you sir, the technology those brave soldiers are bringing home more then pays for the mere ~$8B a year budget of running the SGC. Also loose lips sink ships sir.

[@markusschafer4895]

Yeah - let alone the costs of the tv series made as a cover story!

[@Pre613]

You’re depressing me man.

[@shannonkohl68]

I always get a kick out of them opening the stargate for the first time in one of our most sensitive command and control facilities. Only the government could screw up that badly, so it must be real, right?

[@hope2someday691]

I lived in Ojai California, every time a space shuttle landed at Edwards Air Force Base it flew overhead and the house would shake from its double sonic booms. Then I started hearing double sonic booms when the shuttle wasn’t flying (early 90’s). Not too long after the double sonic booms there was an incident. Something crashed in the mountains above Ojai and the MILITARY closed all access to those mountains for about a week and a half. Something other than the shuttle was definitely flying in the early nineties.

[@Elthenar]

I know those double booms well. Every so often they would land a shuttle at Canaveral and we in Tampa wouldn't necessarily know it was coming. It was always funny when it happened around people who weren't locals. Locals like me recognized that sound instantly, transplants would always panic lol

[@trespire]

@@Elthenar I'd pay good money to experience double sonic booms from a returning large Space Plane. There was a time not too long ago, when we were expecting the X-30, or VenturStar, or HOTOL to enter service. At least we have DreamChaser to look forward to.

[@panpiper]

I've spent most of my life believing in Aurora and now at 65, I'm too old to change my mind. I will continue to believe in Aurora because I want to! 😉

[@counterstrifekid]

Now that Lockheed Martin has publicly stated that they are working on a SR-72 project, its some more circumstantial evidence that the Aurora could still have existed as some defunct predecessor program.

[@cruisinguy6024]

While I don’t think the Aurora was ever operation or put into production I do think there’s substantial reason to believe a couple of technology demonstrators / prototypes were built. It may even have been a follow on program to the XB-70 program. At the time the Aurora was rumored to be under development in the 1980s the SR-71 was getting quite old so a more modern replacement would have been high on the wish list, keep in mind the Blackbird is essentially late 1950s technology. Unfortunately for the program the Cold War ended with the fall of the Soviet Union and major military spending cutbacks were needed. The aurora would have been high on the chopping block. I should point out that there’s definitely precedent for the US operating highly capable aircraft in secret for years before the public is informed. Examples: U2, A-12, SR-71, F-117, B-2, and the still unknown and unnamed stealth variant of the Black hawk involved in the Bin Laden raid.

[@Myth1cxSniper]

I personally think it might’ve been DARPA’s HTV-2. Look into that if you’re interested. That and the SR-72 designs match up pretty well.

[@GustavSvard]

@@cruisinguy6024 And the stealth Blackhawk itself even existing while stealth scout & attack helicopter programs having been cancelled is in a way a symptom of how this is all a reasonable thought: there's a small number of highly specialized aircraft built and in some form of testing/operations hybrid, but when they try to move forward with the tech to use for an entire fleet (thus needing to be in public) the costs per unit maybe doesn't go down? i.e. what is worth long-term tech development funds and funds for a handful of actual aircraft doesn't turn out to scale well to building many hundreds of aircraft. Of course the Air Force / NASA / Skunkworks /... invested in development of a successor to the SR-71, like you say. And it could well have resulted in one or two aircraft that did in at least some ways improve on the SR-71s performance. And the XB-70 tech/data would also feed into that. And maybe the tech has matured a bit, and time is coming to show of some of that tech, give it a new package, and thus the SR-72 program.

[@lurker668]

It most likely turned into some drone like project. Don't think today there is much possible to hide that kind of project unless you underground and never test fly it.

[@helix1061]

With the Black Budget, there is no doubt that top secret aircraft are being developed. Had read about 10 years back that the US Air Force has a strategy of staying about 20 years ahead of our adversaries. Also, no one mentions anything new with the Space Force.

[@timnor4803]

It's spelled Space Farce 😂

[@gh50hill1]

@@timnor4803 your so smart.

[@timnor4803]

@@gh50hill1 it's spelled "You're " 😂😂😂😂😉

[@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190]

@@timnor4803 its not. space warfare is more about syping. no yourselves and your enemy well and you shall win a hundred battkes.

[@AdAstraOnYafro]

@@krisshnapeswanipeswani3190learn or spell or use spell Czech and win a few as well

[@getahanddown]

A key part of what people label Aurora is a 'string of puffs' trail indicating some pulse engine.

[@estried86]

Donuts on a rope is what people have called them.

[@getahanddown]

@@estried86 Thanks! I forgot that exact term.

[@philipgraham1540]

I saw a doughnuts on a rope vapour trail, high over Warrington, NW UK, about 1995. I got my 20×50 binoculars out to confirm it. Judging by the way it faded, it was flying west to easy. Unfortunately, I didn't see the craft that created it.

[@getahanddown]

@@philipgraham1540 Matches lots of other reports.

[@jeffbenton6183]

I forgot, don't we have pictures of the "donuts on a rope" contrail, or is that a lie? (In Amy case, whatever caused them is probably not a rotating detonation engine or whatever it's called, in my opinion, but I don't have any idea of what else it could be)

[@TimAZ-ih7yb]

In 2016 personally witnessed an unknown/unidentified aircraft on multiple nights flying over an unpopulated area in the central U.S. The engines emitted a low, rumbling sound different from anything I’ve ever heard.

[@brainletmong6302]

Can confirm, I was the unpopulated area.

[@Soniti1324]

@@brainletmong6302 I was the rumble, story confirmed

[@richardmckinnon8791]

Sounds like a ramjet or scramjet the x25 Scramjets are still Top Secret

[@mike7652]

​@@Soniti1324Story checks out, I'm the night.

[@flashbazbo3932]

I saw a Stealth Relay Aircraft -TR3A in 1985. Mather was closed for the weekend and as I locked up the squadron building, I heard a weird turbine sound, similar to a short intake NAVY jet. I watched it go around into the sunset and the shape was undeniable. It reminded me of the Air Force recruiting poster showing the rounded tips on the delta wing "USAF 2000" jet. Only later in AW&ST did I learn what I saw.

[@fakecubed]

The aircraft that I think exists, but the USAF and USN don't want to publicly disclose, is a stealth refueler. So much of (potential) enemy defense plans against US air power are based around keeping American planes as far away from their territories as possible, either by threatening aircraft carriers or regional airbases. This requires the US to do a lot of refueling to get combat planes where they need to go, but these are vulnerable planes. There's also bound to be situations with special operations forces needing to infiltrate countries that we're not at war with directly but still want to keep us out. Operators can of course infiltrate by land or by water, but having the option of long ranged air deployment is faster, and made a lot easier by having refueling planes that don't show up on radar. After the Iran hostage crisis rescue plan went bad during that ill-fated ground refueling mission, I'm sure there was a lot of people wanting better options for covert ops beyond just having better trained helicopter pilots. Having just a small number of stealthy refueling planes would add an invaluable capability for all sorts of high risk missions in contested airspace, just like having a small number of stealthy helicopters would be. And we know the latter does exist.

[@AndrewSmith-ub6xs]

Upcoming ghost bat/loyal wingmen from Australia are meant to have some sort of fuel transfer capability right? I wonder if that's just in, or in and out?

[@everypitchcounts4875]

MQ-25 Stingray is somewhat stealthy and it's a autonomous air refueling drone

[@mike7652]

They should convert a B2 Spirit to do mid-air refueling. All the technology exists, just a matter of putting it together.

[@fakecubed]

@@mike7652 That’d be pretty cool, but I think they would be too expensive to fly when the new B-21 could be converted just as easily if not more so, and probably be much cheaper to operate. They could manufacture a few extras on the sly as a special variant.

[@AugieTbrah]

My dad flew was a flight engineer for C-141sout of the west coast for 20 years and he swears he saw Aurora flying over the pacific in the mid 90s. He says it tailed them for a few hours going to Japan. Dude doesn’t believe in anything supernatural or aliens or whatever but he was sure about seeing that

[@Dingin4]

A "Mach 5" plane tailing a C-141 for hours seems unlikely for a number of reasons. That leaves aliens. LOL.

[@nathanrigger15]

​@@Dingin4 not really, it's been proven that top secret aircraft have turned off transponder and tailed other aircraft to hide from air traffic control

[@jamesleyda365]

​​@@Dingin4soooo his/her dad is wrong. But you are right! Right?... interesting

[@AugieTbrah]

@@Dingin4 idk man that’s just what he told me

[@cruisinguy6024]

I can buy someones claim of seeing Aurora in that time period and location because I think there’s a reasonable likelihood the USAF built a couple demonstrators. But what I have a hard time believing is it tailed a subsonic cargo plane for hours across the ocean. Even if it was traveling subsonic its cruise speed would be higher than the Starlifter

[@spaceweasel]

OK. You asked for it. I'm a past Air Force Weather Tech, so I know my planes and meteorological phenomena. One late afternoon, while lying on a lounge chair in my back yard, I saw something streak down from high altitude right over me. This thing came down so fast it glowed cherry red on the edges. When it came down to what I estimate to be 10,000ft, it stopped! I could see the red glow disappear. This thing was cloaked! I knew there was something there but couldn't make out the shape. Then I saw three conical jets light up and push this thing forward, slowly. Once again, when the jets were turned of, this thing blended into the sky. This repeated four or five times until it was out of my view. At no time was it moving fast enough to be supported at elevation by wings or any aeronautical support. It just floated slowly. There you go.

[@alphazuluz]

That rocket-assisted C-130 taking off in what looked like 11 feet was INSANE!!!

[@FloridaManMatty]

Look up “Credible Sport”. The C-130 JATO was cobbled together after Operation Eagle Claw went sideways. Helicopters weren’t going to be good enough and they had to have a way to extract the hostages from the soccer stadium across the street from the embassy. Engineers actually used motors from Shrike and Mk56 rockets. It worked too! The crash occurred because the pilot decided to attempt a manual landing at the last second against protocol.

[@shroom9033]

Blue angel's "fat albert" c-130 used to perform that take-off at all of it's shows until they ran out of jato rockets. I've seen it twice when i was a kid

[@DtWolfwood]

I grew up hearing about the Aurora so yeah that'll always be my favorite.

[@Shadowboost]

I remember perusing the threads back in the day on abovetopsecret. Those rotating gifs of Aurora were so cool

[@Istandby666]

I released Above Top Secret information on the abovetopsecret webpage. He told people not to release secret information on his page after being visited by the FBI.

[@nomercyinc6783]

@@Shadowboost no civilians were eve aware of top secret classified shit

[@Petequinn741]

What we see now was being tested 25 years ago. So i can only imagine what we are testing now. Public is always 25 years behind

[@MostlyCensored]

I think there are 50 and 60 year old project that would blow away the tech in an f22. At the end of the day, “they” would NEVER field something they couldn’t afford to lose to the enemy and beat handily if the tech was reverse engineered. I’ve seen stuff that absolutely doesn’t jive with “current tech” or for that matter even conventional lift or aeronautical theory. The very best they show us are basically just toys.

[@cudathehawgjetfixer7520]

Wouldn't doubt it! From an interview with the president of Lockheed's Skunkworks division, he stated that the U.S. is so far ahead in aviation technology, it's if WWI was held today the U.S. would be bringing F-4 Phantoms to fight the great war, now take it for what it's worth, but being 50 years ahead of everyone else. Kind of makes it stupid to go toe to toe with that type of knowledge!!

[@garythwilliams8732]

Tr3b has to be top of the list

[@garythwilliams8732]

@ch-yq5yn the Phoenix lights craft is called the tr6 telos trans atmospheric electrogravaetic low observation surveillance

[@mikeconley9590]

I saw one. Pretty amazing. ​@ch-yq5yn

[@garythwilliams8732]

@ch-yq5yn I was referring to aircraft that have been built tested flown and cancelled not ufo sightings

[@maffin1012]

@@garythwilliams8732 Those videos at 15:50 and 16:05 look like bad made CGI clips, though.

[@bretdaley6869]

Or maybe the Hillenkoter

[@willwozniak2826]

Keep China guessing....GOOD...thank Alex..👉🏻

[@meekmeads]

With the way Chinese sleeper agents have infiltrated Western societies, they obviously know a lot more than a guess.

[@roadhouse6999]

"Tactical High Altitude Penetrator" lol "THAP" LMAO

[@stephentorgerson4249]

Thaping all over the Middle East lol

[@pike100]

At least it wasn't FAP! 😅 😊 😮

[@DUKE_of_RAMBLE]

That's what I called my bedroom move where I jumped off the dresser onto her... 😏 _(not really, but it was too good not to say! 😅)_

[@randalljones4370]

I live west of Salem Oregon, and south of McMinnville... triangulate away. One clear, moonless night in 2006/08-ish our house started to rhythmically shake "thump-thump-thump" at a very low frequency around 6-16 Hz Hz (my best estimate). There was a bit of an acoustic overtone in that 16-20 Hz range, and virtually no higher-freq 'whoosh'. Inside, we only felt the 'whump', outside it was almost silent. I went outside and initially didn't see anything. Then I realized some stars almost directly overhead were winking out, while others were popping back into site. There was a black 'void' overhead that was moving south to north over our forested ridge 1-200 feet over the tall Doug Firs and was on a heading which would roughly take it back to Evergreen Heli- , ER, McMinnville. I'm a former technician/engineer (hwr/sw, in the 70s-mid-90's), I hold a DMD degree which includes a lot of head/neck anatomy/physiology knowledge and I went on to teach clinically for 3 years at the U (=verified nerd), and I'm a musician who worked for a year at Rodgers Pipe Organ Co (I know my way around very low frequency calculations for closed-system (pipe) and open-air audio wave generation and energy. And I really know my math around 9 Hz waveshapes as I worked for the first Co to get an AED thru FDA approval back in '82-84, and 9.5Hz is the fundamental electrical frequency associated with the downstroke (working contraction) a normal, healthy QRS waveform in the heart...which is right in the middle of the freq range I associate w/the sound I was hearing. AND, I also tangentially knew someone who worked at Evergreen. Months after my 'flying-black-hole' encounter, I bumped into them and kinda/sorta mentioned in passing** : - a rotating wing with sufficient leading-edge diffusion might eliminate rotor-hiss AND - a modified cross-sectional wing/blade shape might reduce the characteristic thump-thump attributable to the lift-effector as it passed a specific point. - but the transition from 'lift-to-no-lift' as the trailing edge moves past a specific point will cause a loss in the downward pressure - and while a rotor could be operating in a 6-12 Hz zone which should be inaudible to humans - the existence of a 6-12 Hz pressure wave impacting on a relatively airtight wooden structure will cause said structure to deform and shudder, creating sounds which are audible to any inhabitants within. They just shot me that 3 second look of : "STFU. I can't talk about this. But I REALLY want to talk about this" Nothing more was said... just silent laughter and smiles. Nerds be nerds. ** ok, I might not have used those exact words, but that was the gist of what I blurted out.

[@intotheoutof3541]

We have all but silent air craft in c-131 and navy choppers I've seen them live in person. They don't talk about them but they exist the sound goes up out away idk but they exist

[@keirfarnum6811]

They didn’t think about the effects on a building and just assumed their stealth chopper would work based on open air testing, I take it. You let them know that it wasn’t completely silent.

[@billwhite1603]

How long was the SR-71 flying before the general public knew about it? The F-117 before it was used in Panama for it's first battle action, NOT desert Storm?

[@richardmckinnon8791]

60s was used in Vietnam

[@garrypeek897]

I saw the 71 in1971.

[@mikecrabtree8200]

I like that. Technological Cryptids. Rolls off the tongue nicely. And has presence in the real world. Keeping in mind what a helicopter is and how it works. It blows my mind that a stealth helicopter is even remotely possible. Yet we managed to pull one off ish. God bless America.

[@trespire]

Silent Loach is a good one.

[@BravoCheesecake]

I'm so glad this topic isn't as taboo as it used to be. Of course there are things flying in the sky that we don't know about. Just about every time I sit out in an open field at night I see something odd. They usually fly too high to be planes but too fast to be satellites (if that makes any sense). Sometimes they make sharp turns or fly in formation. The trick is to focus your eyes on the dim stars and watch for movement.

[@johnbaran577]

Gen3+ night vision can really be enlightening if you look up

[@wolverdnp]

And also these crazy craft that have active cloaking devices. Russkies don't know what they are up against.

[@pike100]

​@wolverdnp Especially because it is highly unlikely that the USA has any active cloaking technology at this time. Too many people get science and science fiction mixed up.

[@danahebdon6810]

​@pike100 - Not true, there's technology available...

[@pike100]

@@danahebdon6810 STEALTH technology is available, not CLOAKING technology. Cloaking only exists in Star Trek.

[@jhonylg4045]

Aurora, even the name is fitting!!! I love that one😂😂. I hope that some day (if not yet) America brings that one to life! (And keep that awesone name!!)

[@tehphoebus]

The project that would become the SR 71 Blackbird was started in 1959, and wasn't announced until 1989. There were numerous UFO sightings in the 80s and 90s we now know we're the F117 or B2.

[@jukeseyable]

Rubbish it was announced to the public in 1964 by Lyndon b Johnson, but the first time it was seen photographed by the public in 1976

[@maleprincess62]

I think you're thinking of the nighthawk, that was disclosed in 89

[@shannonkohl68]

I seem to recall it was announced by LBJ, who swapped the original designation of RS to SR.

[@mickgibson370]

I was at an airport driving around in a car in 1980 when 5 Air Force security forces told me that I could not drive in side the perimeter of the hanger on what they were hinging! It was the SR 71! It was a pubic airport!

[@deadmanrunning6670]

Your point is well taken, whether or not the dates are on point. Prototype and advanced aircraft were flying the skies before announced publicly.

[@LeonAust]

tic tac drones are intriguing as the validity and quality of the personal who has seen them are most trusted.

[@-FAFO-]

I've always kinda wondered if that whole thing wasn't an op to basically say "look what we got", to other nations.... without really saying it. Not sure either way, but kinda interesting to think of.

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

No man made drone can do what David Frevor described.

[@vera02]

⁠@@BattleBrotherCasten Fravor is a pilot. That’s it. He can describe what he saw 20 years ago but he is not at the cutting edge of aerospace engineering, now or then.

[@bpd8426]

Graphene Aerogel drones are the clear mostly see through drones. Graphene aerogels are also stronger than steel despite being just 0.2% of the steel weight. They want to put these things stationary in the ionosphere for permanent surveillance of areas, because they won’t orbit. I think what the f16 pilot saw was one of the Graphene aerogel drones some years back.

[@billcarpenter6057]

@@bpd8426agreed. Think they use vacuum to rise in the air column?

[@mrkentusmc]

My great uncle worked for Lockheed at Area 51, he worked on the development of the F-117. Back in the 90s early 2000s he told me he was working on the aroura project, he told me it was flying and what to the contrails looked like since the were so unique. He didn't disclose any other details. All I knew other than what he told me was that he worked for Lockheed, lived in Las Vegas, and he flew to work from the LV airport every day.

[@kickin37404]

I always thought I had seen an alien craft until I learned about the TR3B. I was so spooked I went and hid under the nearest large tree.

[@ElonMuckX]

Same for me, I ran back to my work, and hide there till 1am!

[@ireaddekker]

I was outside relatively late at night to feed our furnace one night and saw something similar to the descriptions of the TR3-B. It flew overhead silently at low altitude and then disappeared right in front of me. A friend also saw a similar aircraft in the same area moving at higher altitudes and speeds. There seems to be something to the rumors.

[@MostlyCensored]

@@ireaddekkerI’ve seen it too, in daylight from 1/2 mile to directly overhead and it was only going about 5mph. I got a VERY good look. The F22 is a joke now. Basically everything is a joke now.

[@LackofFaithify]

The elusive On-Time/On-Budget-FXXX is my favorite.

[@dead-claudia]

ah the greatest conspiracy of all: the us military completing a plane on time and on budget sasquatch existing is more believable than that 😂

[@BaloneySandwichWithKetchup]

you should look into the high altitude contrails that were seen a while ago from satellite photos. spanned from Antarctica to the Arctic circle. high altitude contrails drift into unrecognizable stratus clouds within 20-30 mins. these trails were a solid white line for about 10 thousand miles. indicating whatever created them was performing utterly mind blowing speeds.

[@Rjsjrjsjrjsj]

Imagine this: You're entering Disney World and you hear Alex greeting you with "I'm Mickey Mouse and THIS is Disney World" in the same voice he uses to start his videos. I think it'd be a FANTASTIC draw. 🤣

[@jstriker623]

Kids would ask if Mickey has throat cancer😮 Edit...and a stuffy nose.

[@Rjsjrjsjrjsj]

@@jstriker623 Dark Mickey 😉

[@StringFlame]

People still like Disney? Wow. They are elitist racists and sexists.

[@vera02]

😂😂😂😂

[@dr5255]

To be honest he sounds like old school alf...if you've ever seen that tv show for real!!

[@willpugh8865]

65 billion dollar black budget larger than some countries economies and most nations military spending gets me hard af and I’m not even American 😂 you guys are dope

[@brysonfitzgerald5238]

Brings a tear to my eye, too. It's one of the few things I don't mind tax dollars being used for.

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

You get to watch without paying the taxes😅

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

@@brysonfitzgerald5238 In theory most of what we spend our tax dollars on makes sense; in practice many systems can be cheat, exploited, etc. Including military R&D. I'd like some form of allied foreign oversight on these projects to make sure we aren't wasting money, but the security implications are severe so idk. I just don't recommend trusting the government on simple principal that it's made up of people who wanted more power.

[@brysonfitzgerald5238]

@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket I absolutely agree. Money generally equals power; that's a lot of unsupervised power.

[@nunyabiznez666]

Until China or Russian spies get their hands on it to replicate with minimal investment and effort......or we have traitors 😒😬😑 I wish I could witness all the incredible and cool technology we have 😢 Only left to imagination 😮‍💨😤

[@chuckiannuzzi6839]

Keep it up Alex, you cover it all. Without your investigative efforts we would still be in the dark. I am an ex-Huey pilot and particularily enjoy the rotary wing stories.

[@a13Banger]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, damn, I love this channel! It is a little like xmas morning every time I see a new video drop lol

[@user-hn8lm8th8k]

You are a very wise person, you think like i do ;^)

[@timgolby8556]

I have a screenshot of flight radar showing an aircraft that crossed the Atlantic in 1 hr. Coming into lakenheath. Had an escort too.

[@omgitsjpc1344]

Where can I see it?

[@jnellie1970]

“And THIS….is AIRPOWER.” BEST OPEN EVER! :)

[@brianhenderson7893]

Honorable mention- F-19a Ghostrider

[@jessemorgan7007]

I have seen TR3B type of vehicle in 1998 fly over Hawaii at night no sound from engines but you could see the distinct triangle shape even at night

[@Lyle-In-NO]

Can I hire Alex to record my voicemail greeting?

[@danielc9312]

You could probably have AI read it using his videos as source material for the voice.

[@8__vv__8]

“I’m Alex Hollings… and this is Lyle’s voicemail”?

[@southernstacker7315]

I saw a black triangle outside of Dallas TX in 2004. It blocked out the sky and stars. That's all you could see. 3 dim lights like looking a a road is summer heat. What I saw was the size of football field.

[@fakecubed]

Every other aircraft flown by the USAF/CIA turned out to have been operating in secret long before it was publicly disclosed, so the answer is obviously yes. Drones are the easiest ones to assume. Anything with a surveillance mission or electronic warfare mission is going to be the most classified. We know the F-117s are still operating in small numbers as well but there's very likely a replacement stealth strike fighter already, whether drone or otherwise (and no, the F-35 doesn't count). And there's certainly a triangular high speed aircraft flying probably manned missions too as a replacement for the SR-71, and has for quite a long time now. It's been photographed several times. And lastly there's the military space shuttle for highly sensitive missions involving foreign satellites and deploying our own.

[@Pistolita221]

the CIA stopped keeping secrets after their last FOIA request. 😅😉

[@Justanotherconsumer]

That the F-117 and U-2 are still plausibly flying gives all sorts of “oh that was just an X” cover stories.

[@togotojo8251]

13:20 is where the video ACTUALLY starts... come on Alex you do not get paid by the word man!

[@Pwnulolumad]

Seriously like wtf

[@ekankle]

I worked on the B2 when it was still being denied. It was fun to see how accurate or not the speculation was.

[@Alpha-Q_2]

Noone playes poker showing what's in their hand😂

[@XJapa1n09]

Exactly

[@GoD_Quake]

Why would anyone assume they are NOT? This has been SOP for decades. There is no reason to expect otherwise now.

[@josephsmith6777]

No one absolutely no one knew about the f117 until the war and the one that got clipped by a great well informed and a little lucky A/A

[@preludeh22a57]

🤣🤣🤣

[@josephsmith6777]

@preludeh22a57 I mean besides the thousands of ppl who built flew maintained, etc. And civilians who saw them in flight for a decade but everyone else lol 😆

[@preludeh22a57]

@@josephsmith6777 ++

[@mertdokur87]

Yeah, except it was featured in the 1997 video game Jane's Advanced Tactical Fighters : )

[@josephsmith6777]

@mertdokur87 it was sarcasm. They have 100s of plane and pilots, 1000s of mechanics and supply chain guys, and airforce boots who see them never mind civillian plane spotters, them partners in Nato . It would be impossible. They may have rolled it out for public like the b2 and b21 . Never mind, they were used in other major missions. The only deception they used on that plane is labeling it a fighter

[@ilkoderez601]

This was a great episode. Love this stuff!

[@pike100]

For the most part, I find this kind of thing to be ridiculous.

[@davidwilliams9302]

I just learned a few months ago that one of my friends (who currently works for Boeing) was a materials engineer on the exhaust nozzle on Bird of Prey. The things you won't know until you ask.

[@CaptinLongdong1]

I've seen a UFO/UAP in the shape of a football or "Tik-Tac" for about a minute or two a few years back in rural America. I'm former military, educated, and I know what aircraft look like at night, as well as weird phenomenon's. This was something else. If what I saw was Top Secret American craft, well, I am glad my taxes went towards that! If it was something, other worldly, well, that is also equally exciting.

[@phenomagator]

There's something flying around in the shape of a giant, black, flying V or chevron. It has no fuselage and has the ability to fly silently. Just a giant flying wing. 600-700 feet from wingtip to wingtip. It's been called the TR-6 TELOS online.

[@dextermorgan1]

There are lots of UFOs flying around and I don't mean alien craft, though we have those, too. 😉

[@dextermorgan1]

7:46 that's true, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence, but circumstantial evidence is good enough to put somebody in prison for the rest of their life, so it's good enough for me. Enough circumstantial evidence adds up to pretty good proof. Especially when all of said evidence points in the same direction.

[@raysloan4899]

I think the reason the Chinese pilots have so many incidents like this is because they don’t know what the hell they are doing. One of these days they are going to make the wrong move and trigger something huge. I just think the Chinese military in all are all very inexperienced in all aspects. I’m no expert, but to do this so many times is idiotic. It puts themselves in harms way, as well as whoever they think they’re dicking with. It’s all a bad idea, but I sometimes wonder if it’s all on purpose or if they just don’t know what the hell they are doing.

[@timsytanker]

I saw something very unusual in about 1995, Suffolk,England. The time was about five PM in winter so it was dark, I was driving home when something caught my eye moving over and ahead of me, it was an incandescent blue afterburner type ‘flame’. The bright colour was amazing and while keeping one eye on the road I tracked it flying in a dead straight line in a North East direction. I couldn’t make out anything ahead of the light and with the window already part down I couldn’t hear anything. When I got home I asked my wife if she had seen anything while walking the dogs (she had just got in) and she said she saw a bright blue light track across the sky. I asked her what noise it made and she said it didn’t make any. That night we were out at a 40’s themed restaurant (about 20 miles away) and the table behind me started talking about exactly the same thing as I had seen - so we swapped stories. They had seen it near Norwich and I had seen it near Bury St Edmunds, probably 40 miles apart. Now where I live I see a lot of aircraft during the day and at night. RAF Honington is about 2 miles away and Lakenheath and Mildenhall about 10. Before it closed for flying we used to get many Tornadoes flying around on night exercises, we are also on the ILS approach for Mildenhall. I am an amateur astronomer so I know what ‘stuff’ in the sky looks like. This was different, I have no idea what was in front of the blue flame, couldn’t make it out. The object was either high and fast or low and slow, it appeared to travel at the speed of a Tornado on a training flight across country. It’s the blue colour and the lack of noise I remember most. I’ve seen many satellites, the ISS, meteorites, fireballs from stuff breaking up in the atmosphere etc but this thing only once. Suffolk has ‘big skies’ so it’s not unusual to see things, this ‘blue flame’is the only thing I can’t identify, if there was an aircraft ahead of the flame it had no navigation lights and it must have been really black.

[@beesod6412]

You've been killing it this year. Thank you Alex for all the hard work you put into each video, You are the wind beneath my wings.

[@JohnGratian]

I recall a story from airline pilot who was of course former military that talked about a series of contrails that appeared to be a pulsed engine exhaust leaving 'donut holes' in the sky. And it had pictures. theory was the pulse could have been scramjet engine being tested.

[@michaellello5566]

"Donuts on a Rope" they were called. Famous picture of it, thought Alex was going to mention that along with Aroura.

[@reygo]

Brilliant Buzzard. A high mach, maybe hypersonic XB-70 shaped spaceplane and mothership

[@pahrumpianrockets7301]

I have two. I live in Pahrump Nevada. Groom Lake is 60 miles north west of us. We sit in the middle of a triangle with Groom Lake, Edwards and China Lake. About 6 to 8 years ago at about 3am I would hear a very loud "jet engine". I could hear it coming from the west going east. I could hear it for several minutes before the sound was over head and for several minutes after that. I tried to see what it was with binoculars but never saw anything. I'm a night owl which is why I was outside at night. The aircraft would go east and an half hour to an hour later would go overhead going west. I heard it randomly for many months and then nothing. One night I was out in the desert watching a meteor shower at about 3 am when I heard a sonic boom to the west of me. I said to myself, what idiot just broke the sound barrier. I watched to the west in the direction of the sonic boom looking for nav lights. Nothing. As I stood there something flew right over me. I heard what sounded like a jet engine at idle. It was a very faint sound. Then the crazy part. I heard the whooshing sound of the vortices coming off the wings. It was the same sound I had heard many times hanging out under the approach path to a major airport. The airliners going into and out off Vegas fly up one side of the valley going to the Northwest and down the other side going to Vegas. I've been watching them for 19 years now and have watched them on Flight Radar 24. They take several minutes to cross the valley. What ever flew over me at very low level crossed the valley in a minute or less. I was looking toward the east which was the way the sound went. Then another crazy part. I saw a very bright red light come on. That's how I know how long it took to cross the valley. I could see the outline of the mountains to the east because of the glow from Vegas. The light had to be huge. It wasn't a spec of light it was a ball of light. At that distance an airliner is a spec in the sky. The light then made a descending turn to the north and disappeared behind the mountains. Where it went over the mountains would have put it north of Vegas. What I think happened was some kind of aircraft came in from high altitude and coasting. The pilot saw me and decided to buzz me. I know they do this for giggles because I heard it straight from the horses mouth. For me to hear the air moving meant to me that he was very low. I looked to see if something was occluding the stars after I heard the sonic boom and didn't see any nav lights. I didn't see any evidence of what it was. The size of the red light still baffles me. This is just a couple of very strange things I've seen here. I've been around Air Force bases for over 40 years. I get Aviation Week and used to get Janes. I have many aircraft reference books. If it flies I know what it is almost every time. But some of the things in the sky around here are different than anything else.

[@teddeebayre3433]

I love the photo that's circulating of a TR3B on the deck of an aircraft carrier. It's simply a superimposed image of a plastic model made by Mattel.

[@secretbassrigs]

Those of us that frequented the areas near Edwards Air Force Base know what we saw and heard in the early 90s in regards to "Aurora" hypersonic aircraft. This episode just contrubutes to the confusion.

[@neoshi3796]

Lol man the stealth Blackhawks... While in college.. one of my professors who works for NASA got a call from the military to borrow NASA's uh 60s with experimental equipment and he chuckled that it was likely that the military wanted it to make a stealth hawk. That was 2006/2007. Then the bin laden op happened and my buddies shot me a picture of the tail and ask me what that was... Dots connected and i said someone fucked up, hopefully not the 160th, and just crashed a black budget helo lol.. sure enough...

[@darrencorrigan8505]

Thanks, sandboxx.

[@imghoti]

I lived and worked in the San Gabriel Valley at the time of the reports of Aurora and Eest Coast landings of the space shuttle. I happened to work at Frank G Bonelli park (AKA Puddingstone). I had to arrive very early in the mornings to unlock the gates so that the fishermen could get into the lake for fishing. Many, many, many times in the early mornings, sonic booms (sometimes singly and other times double) could be heard AND felt as "something" was transecting the skys over SOCAL. I never did catch sight of what was up there because the boom comes after the craft has passed overhead, but everybody knew that, that was the sound of American black-ops in action. It was AWESOME! [edited because, apparently, I can't spel.]

[@kez850]

Without a doubt there is a pitch black/silent/hovering/instant accelerating triangular aircraft with a disk shaped light at each corner. Witnessed one roughly 1 mile from Hill AFB in ~2012. Hovered stationary in complete silence maybe 50 ft off the ground. After several minutes it zoomed straight up into the sky and was out of sight within 1 second.

[@thevnbastid1027]

did the pilot give you a smoke after the probing?

[@Nylonscheme]

No generally we only allow nicotine patches on board.

[@kez850]

@@thevnbastid1027 the least he could have done

[@pike100]

Please make sure not to consume alcohol after taking your meds. 😉

[@spaceweasel]

Some are ours, some are theirs.

[@rowanyuh6326]

I like Tacit Blue and sr-72. Tacit blue been out for a while now. I like American Aircraft Penetrator saw it outside a base in California never forgot.

[@Istandby666]

My biological father worked on Orca (Tacit Blue).

[@vladpootin5973]

When us mere mortals openly talk about it on the internets, then we can all rest assured, that America indeed possesses at least that, and then some, and most of these things are probably even „standard“ already with the rare breed of people who are actually in the know.

[@keedronst]

So im a retired navy fighter pilot. Seen a lot...ill leave it at that. But Alex what do you thing you witnessed as a little kid growing up...i recall your story.

[@chaiwallah69]

Darkstar is real. I’ve seen it……in Top Gun 2

[@kyledabearsfan]

always believe everything you see on the internet - Benjamin Franklin

[@colinf.1198]

@@kyledabearsfan Ben Franklin was wise beyond his years...

[@xantiom]

It was based on the real prototype

[@persistentwind]

I thought Tom Cruise borrowed that from the aliens.

[@HewanBerbulu1730]

​@@kyledabearsfan so Ben warn use to do some research first then go back to the information that we get earlier and do some analysis on that.... That not mean all information in internet are bullshit

[@pyrokuda9743]

Always good content!! Thank you

[@kriseric1]

I'm a fan of your content, but the intro to this video is WAY too long. Actual content starts at 13:00

[@dylanduff9645]

I've lived in Tucson my entire 44 years and have been interested in all aircraft my whole life. With Davis Monthan here, there is always a lot of air traffic so I get to enjoy lots of cool stuff. Usually if I'm inside and hear a fighter I can make it outside to see what it is. Just last Thursday at about 11am I heard a jet so loud I jumped up to run outside and see what it was, but it had already passed over and was absolutely gone and out of sight before I even made it to the door. Whatever it was, it was by far the craziest most fast jet I have ever heard go over. On a Thursday early afternoon, not morning like Alex mentioned in the video but this really makes me wonder what I heard.

[@MrCaskwine]

the question isn't if the us airforce is or isn't, its what are they going to be called in 20 years? f22, f117, and sr 71 anyone? all these were never acknowledged until 10 years after they were first used

[@timnor4803]

No way we don't have classified planes we don't know yet👍🇺🇸

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@timnor4803the RQ-170 was my wake-up call on this. Flying wing stealth drone? Why wouldn’t it exist?

[@eddiewashen7093]

I liked, the Novel by Tom Clancy Red Storm Rising. , regarding the F19 Frisbee / Testors model any truth to that shape of aircraft or platform. Ty Eddie.

[@BadDadio]

Alex, you put some awesome video footage in this episode.

[@razgary8008]

My hypothesis is that the f-22 project was canceled To fund a better secret project

[@dead-claudia]

wouldn't surprise me. the f-22 itself came at least partly from the black budget iiuc

[@MichaelRoy-hc3lz]

I love this stuff, thank you for doing "cryptid X planes" edition. It was before the History Channel got all goofy (late 90s, early 00s) they did a show about The Skunk Works. A retired engineer said "think about what might be flying in 50 years, that's what we already have in the air" I'm still not convinced about Bigfoot but l'm pretty sure a version of the NGAD and NGXX have flown. I want to believe!

[@reahreic7698]

Skunk works built bigfoot, the program was cancelled when Patterson caught it on video in 67 near Bluff Creek in the Northern California the woods. (Now you can believe as it's more plausible than an actual bigfoot)

[@ThirdLawPair]

For real though, El Chupacabra would be a cool name for an advanced aircraft.

[@louisbabycos106]

I would imagine a SUPER TUCANO with CERAMIC RAM PAINT .

[@pike100]

Chupacabras would also be a good name for a fantasy football team. 😅

[@LackofFaithify]

It really only works if you don't speak Spanish. The Goat Sucker is just kinda...ehhh....

[@ThirdLawPair]

@@LackofFaithify A lot of terms in a lot of languages have a very straightforward translation.

[@kolideoskope]

I’m intrigued by the story of the dark gray rounded-diamond-shaped craft that Tim Alberino says he saw hovering silently over a parking lot in Ohio ten years ago

[@LeydenAigg]

Nine minutes, and you haven't named ONE of these possible aircraft. Life is too short; I have to go.

[@billmorrison3714]

I recall an add in The Los Angeles Times from Lockheed (if memory serves me well) for a “Mach 5 liquid methane fueled aircraft. This was in the early 70’s. The add was looking for Aviation Engineers.

[@benjaminlynch9958]

Wut? They were just casually looking for mechanics among the general public that had experience with Mach 5 aircraft? Even in 2024 they’d be hard pressed to find someone that wasn’t either mentally delusional or already covered under a classified program.

[@billmorrison3714]

@@benjaminlynch9958 yep. It was in the Sunday edition of the Times. It had an artists rendition of the proposed aircraft.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

From a matter of pure thrust, sure. There’s an XF-103 hybrid turbo/ramjet that never flew from the ‘50’s that was supposed to have those kind of performance. Heat was the problem. Finding a material that wouldn’t melt at hypersonic speeds is… well publicly still a problem.

[@wbball15]

Gotta know more about "AIRWOLF" Thanks, Alex.

[@xantiom]

The TV show? lol

[@Plaprad]

I mean, it makes sense. Take an off the shelf civilian helicopter and outfit it with top of the line intelligence gear. Then, have the owning "Company" spend it's time "Renting" it out to people for flights in Europe and such. Though, the weapons loadout is slightly unrealistic.

[@mduvigneaud]

Without the Advanced Research Projects Agency we wouldn't even have the Internet.

[@lukedavies494]

Folding single operator SOF helicopters? In Alex Ward's recent Book 'The Internationalists' he describes the last aircraft to land at Kabul international airport during the withdrawal as being folding armed single operator helicopters, later in the chapter he vividly describes Gen. Chris Donahue stepping over the folded helicopters as he takes his seat on the last flight out. On the smaller side of aircraft but I haven't seen anything online about this, and I fear knowledge of this is something that could be overlooked given the prevalence of small drones taking this role already.

[@tklube308]

That TR3B really interested me.

[@MylesDavid]

I think it would be great to cover the “TicTac” from the perspective of it possibly being our (USA) own technology. Also, no one really discusses the idea that there is a much deeper secretive part of private industry that has developed this tech quietly runs along side or in the continental background of our military apparatus. It would make for a great video.

[@intotheoutof3541]

@@MylesDavid I have my theories on the tic-tac UFO drone deployed threw torpedo tubes out side of the drone super heated so it's in the water but not in the water

[@xkavarsmith9322]

I stopped believing in aliens when I looked at a contrail over Area 51 and thought "military's spending money again." And part of my inner child died.

[@AEFisch]

Q? Maybe NGAD should be small, completely stealth and simply carry the best radar, info interconnect and just a few Sidewinders. With AIM 260 and air launched SM-6, F15-II's (EPAWS) way back carrying 16-260's launch against air targets guided by NGAD and the F15 escapes near Mach 3, outflying even S300's? The secrets are all inside of a computer and sensors today, flying in planes we see all the time like the F15. A plane that could have been descending from 67k feet. 1000 AI flown F16's coming at you?

[@m1ke176]

My dad was in the Air Force in the 70's. Said he saw the guys get out of the SR71 with those suits on,he thought they came from space. But if you didn't know it would've been easy to assume.

[@spaceweasel]

U2 pilots flew in the same kind of pressure suits.

[@kstricl]

The subject of Cryptids is very fascinating. I had an epiphany as to the origin of one automotive cryptid (or conspiracy) thanks to Vice Grip Garage and a comment by someone who claimed to have first hand knowledge of the event. The story is that a fellow bought a Cadillac in the 70's that got incredible mileage. The engine also looked quite unlike anything else around. Supposedly Cadillac got wind that he had this particular engine in his car and tried to buy it back. The fellow said no. Supposedly one night, someone came and replaced the engine in his car with a regular engine. After watching VGG work on an early 80's Caddy with the 8-6-4 engine, I realized that the story could have been true and what the fellow had was a test mule for development, which Cadillac would definitely want back. I still have doubts about the tale, but there is a plausible route for it to have occurred.

[@user-xw4gr9kn8n]

70's? Interesting. I heard the same story, only it was about a Cadillac in the '50's. What is legend in this story is replacing an engine in a Caddy, overnight, without alerting its owner. I've pulled several 70's Cadillac motors. That is not going to be a quiet task.

[@leobuana7430]

​@@user-xw4gr9kn8n do you think setting up a thick indoor tent around the car would help reducing the noise ?

[@drbuckley1]

@@leobuana7430 I think putting up a thick tent would make the noise.

[@Lawrence330]

Cadillac sells through independent dealers. It would have been quite the eff up for a mule to end up with a retail customer accidentally.

[@kstricl]

@@user-xw4gr9kn8n the location I was given would have been a farm. Possibly pulled away far enough that you could do it with hand tools. Only other thing, which would make more sense, would be towing it to a shop with a lift and proper tools then returning it in a couple hours.

[@jackbrown8052]

Much of the black budget goes to expanding and maintaining the Moombase on the backside of the Moon. The base is cloaked to all types of surveillance. The base is also where many types of spacecraft and Earth craft are kept. When needed on Earth the craft are ferried back to Earth in a few hours onboard a very large spacecraft.

[@joesnuffy1961]

Grew up in central Nevada north of Area 51. People have been seeing strange UFO type aircraft for years before the F-117 was known. It explained a lot!

[@sneakerset]

A Triton and a TBM went over while I was taking out the trash. Thanks for your work !

[@tripleceas]

Is that an MQ-4C?

[@sneakerset]

@@tripleceas Affirmative. Thanks for asking and I saw your A/P gallery - nice work :)

[@ronsmith4927]

skip the preamble and the meat begins at 13:20

[@Youbetternowatchthis]

Aurora has to be real. I refuse to believe otherwise

[@aaronscottmatthews7883]

Imagine filing a public patent for a high-tech secret craft lol

[@donald2167]

I want to know what Steve Douglass saw over Texas in 2014

[@baldieman64]

And what Kurt Russell (yes, the actor) saw over Pheonix.

[@tripleceas]

Airwolf

[@Lorax_Tribe]

Like you say, the triangle craft I saw in the desert in ‘91 (and all reported triangles) was thought to be alien or reverse engineered AF craft from alien crashes. Its antics, including releasing a drone swarm with spectacular display was mind blowing, but I reserved judgment until modern times when all this is commonly known today. That’s why I study UFO reports, to glimpse possible tech.

[@Llyrin]

16:08 The camera operator seems to know in advance that the craft is going go vertical. That, or his reflex/reaction time is inhumanly fast. Before the craft is out of frame, he’s already moving the camera. Don’t get me wrong, I know Alex isn’t endorsing it just by showing the clip. Just take it for what it’s worth.

[@newqlar]

Meanwhile. Canada’s estimated DND budget for 23-24 … approximately 26 billion 😂 We suck.

[@buildmotosykletist1987]

I thought Canada's military budget was 26c.

[@J0LARTE]

​@buildmotosykletist1987 our budget might as well be 26 cents 😭

[@tenchraven]

Well, you don't have to do power projection. Heavy airlift. Heavy sealift. Strategic counterforce. Continental radar. Strategic reconnaissance. Or any R&D. Sure, there are assets and corporations that work on some of this stuff, by either as US contractors or US military assets. Your good tech, you buy from the US, or Germany, sometimes the UK. You're literally along for the ride, the little sibling who tag along. It used to be so cute when Canada couldn't decide if it was a vassal of the Pax America or the rotting corpse that used to be Pax Britannia. Then you went and got gross, your face chin deep in the laps the PRC and Cuba.

[@mikeconley9590]

I've seen the black triangle fly from the 188th air national guard in Fort Smith AR. Who was piloting it? I'm guessing it was space force. It was only a hundred feet high , flew directly over my house , and was absolutely silent.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

There are so many black triangle stories that are the same, it would seem there has to be *something* to them. Weirdly enough, most times it seems to be traveling fairly slowly. The silent part is harder to explain. But it seems separate from UAP reports where a craft is seen to do physics-bending movements. Perhaps black triangle is actually an airship testing some kind of electric drives? Almost always it is seen at night from beneath...an extremely lightweight airship/blimp-type aircraft might cast the same silhouette as some giant hyper-advanced airplane it is presumed to be, but easier to be driven by experimental non-combustion means.

[@astronomenov99]

Alex actually saw it when he was a very young man. Check out his previous videos.

[@ConsciousnessisRough]

I had a similar sighting 8 miles north of Hill AFB in the mid 90's. Huge black triangle, four lights, one in the center and at the corners, completely silent.

[@thudthud5423]

Someone else mentioned this ( @astronomenov99), but Alex Hollings says he saw something that sounds exactly like what you describe. My guess is that its some sort of stealth dirigible, possibly for "silently" moving a large payload from one place to another. I wonder if I'm correct, would the launch site and destinations have to be military bases, groomed terrain or simply a battle zone. If the latter wild guess is correct, imagine a few of these stealth vehicles delivering a few dozen armored vehicles and troops to the middle of a contested area such as a battlefield behind enemy lines, completely undetected. If this thing truly is a stealth dirigible, could it be broken down and stowed inside a cargo plane such as a C-5 or C-17?

[@douglasthompson201]

​​@@thudthud5423It's one thing to have a super-stealthy dirigible, but what about the cargo? M1 tanks and M2 Bradleys are pretty good radar reflectors.

[@charlesrexford2598]

Thank you again for an amazing show.