My issues with the continued conversations on the "dust up" is the neglect to observe what is being taught and promoted. I understand the supposed dust up is iver a church member but y is tgat? Y is it not about joels language? About what joel tbinks on race because tells ppl publicly over and over and over how he feels about race and so id not question that his followers or church member felt comfortable sharing the views with joel because joel says he thinks the same and teaches the same snd yet no one calls for any accountability on joel for the things he says thst r race centered and tgst continue to talk of killing millions of ppl and these words come out of joels mouth... on top of that he promotes works, adds to the gospel and redefines faith. Y is that not the issue? Y is the issue the church member who resembles his pastors attitude? Maybe ppl will stomach the long long videos and hrs snd yrs of what he teaches to be familiar enough with what he says to believe he believes what he says and teaches. Maybe someday he will he held accountable for his teachings.