The Wind Waker VS Twilight Princess (Comparison)

[@commonwealthrealm]

Hope you enjoy this video! More Game VS Game is on the way with both Metroid (next week) and finally Mario! Also which do you think is better the Wind Waker or Twilight Princess?

[@burstmachines5548]

Commonwealth Realm WIND WAKER

[@menokisfiu3513]

I like that four swords link in the thumbnail

[@gamercore5216]

Why was four swords link in the thumbnail?

[@commonwealthrealm]

Fixing it now. This is a fan rendition of an original artwork. Thanks for the heads up!

[@j0w0seph18]

Twilight princess

[@isabelh8023]

How do people even choose between Zelda soundtracks between games lol. I find it impossible since all of the games have such great and memorable music.

[@awsesometech1791]

It is an argument to get fans talking. No way to actually say "this is the better" BUT, no complaint here. I posted TP many threads as the clear winner, hoping others will discount

[@HaloTheeBest]

Same I was like wtf Tp might've used traditional music but it was still awesome, in fact my favorite ost of all zeldas. But I also really loved Windwaker and usually put it at the top of my zelda list mainly because I love Toon Links characteristics

[@mcihay246]

@@HaloTheeBest Picking between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess is like picking between Originality/Progression and Tradition respectively. The adventure is in both games, it's that Wind Waker chooses to go a different route in terms of gameplay and art style, whereas Twilight Princess relies on nostalgia through the traditional formula of LOZ. None of them are bad games, both games cater towards specific preferences.

[@allanssupposedlysecretacco817]

ya

[@DrDolan2000]

Facts

[@1soccermom449]

Twilight Princess. It actually gives you a sense of fear and anxiety when coming across certain parts. For example, delivering Midna to Zelda when she was struck by Zant, bringing Prince Ralis to Kakariko village, Arbiters grounds dungeon, and Hyrule castle. There are vibes I pick up in Twilight Princess that I just don't in Windwaker that causes me to enjoy the games so much more. :/

[@keisimmons]

I just really like the ordon village theme

[@SNinjaQK]

outset is the best

[@junkofunko6443]

hidden village anyone?

[@dogecraft-minecraft8002]

Hyrule field definitly

[@chihayawataya273]

me!

[@kylehill3643]

Hope you rot there!

[@CrispyChrisss]

Wind waker for me. I just loved exploring the sea and coming across a random island, that was always my favorite thing about wind waker.

[@allanmhanson]

I would say the same but Assassins Creed Black flag ruined The Wind Waker for me. No other game can touch Black Flags sea.

[@Joshua-tn6rs]

The creators of Black Flag said a big inspiration was The Wind Waker

[@isgamer-8732]

Yes I agree!

[@CrispyChrisss]

Fandom Tribal im sorry u feel that way

[@s1mm0n]

Chris My opinion is ^-^ WW-best Zelda Game TP- best Manga

[@inexfan89]

I'm not complaining about the outcome here but I feel like Twilight Princess is the better game. I recently played through both games for the first time (I know, I know) and TP was the way better experience for me. I didn't finish either to 100%. I focused on story first but I feel like due to its nature, a lot is easier to miss in Wind Waker. When you don't go for the full adventure the Sea setting is not favorable. And while Wind Waker looks gorgeous and the original holds up way better that the original TP, its art style ultimately took away some of the "threat". In TP I got a sense of urgency when I had to save the Zora prince or meet king Bulblin. And when I compare the Ganondorf fights, WW maybe had the more unique idea but I prefer the grand scale of TP that made it feel like an truly epic and entertaining Fantasy adventure. Like I said, I don't want to take away anything from Wind Waker. And it's definitely better when it comes to the music. It's a great game that's beloved for good reasons. But I think Twilight Princess is the better experience overall, especially when you play them for the first time.

[@Ninjaananas]

inexfan89 Agree.

[@jamesdudeck231]

inexfan89 yeah definitely, I just want all the zelda's rereleased on the switch so I can play them again on the same console

[@jamesdudeck231]

inexfan89 yeah definitely, I just want all the zelda's rereleased on the switch so I can play them again on the same console

[@jamesdudeck231]

inexfan89 yeah definitely, I just want all the zelda's rereleased on the switch so I can play them again on the same console

[@kingjonny394]

inexfan89 tbh i played both with high expectations but wind waker was deffinantly greater than twilight. Twilight is still great but leans to heavily on ocarina and the world is bland and way to many corridors conecting things

[@WritingGeekNL]

First of all, both games are part of my childhood. But I do think Twilight Princess is the better game, I did not like Wind Waker's World at all. Too much moving around from place to place just looking at the same water, over and over and over... And TP was the first Zelda game I actually understood and I remember being amazed by....everything. TP was the entry I played when I fell in love with the franchise. I would later grow up enjoying more mature-themes in films, series, games, etc. so maybe it is just personal taste. But I love TP.

[@twilightphantom8787]

I do to. TP was the first video game I ever played and it is one of my favorites. When I played WW HD back in 2016 I wasn't very amused with it but still enjoyed it. But when I play WW, during the sailing I look at my phone or whatever until I get to my destination. When I play TP I'm always looking at the screen. I generally just found TP to be a better experience then WW.

[@sizzle_falco]

Ocarina of time is better than twilight princess

[@fortnightistrash3944]

@@sizzle_falco explain

[@fortnightistrash3944]

@@sizzle_falco it really isn't even majoras mask is better.

[@upon1326]

@@sizzle_falco you probably never got past the first part in tp

[@tam1643]

If only these games were on Switch

[@dachking6657]

I know, right? I’d love to sail the Great Sea and ride Epona all over Hyrule anywhere and everywhere.

[@omargt738]

@uglyblokeonabike Or a pc

[@itstrayantula7082]

You should've got a Wii U earlier while these games were out. Now you are forced to look at a smaller map, talk to Midna to change to Wolf Link, pay $59.99 for those games while they were $49.99 and $19.99 on the Wii U, and pause the game to change your inventory.

[@gabrielcornejo238]

Almost only on pc and Android

[@primalvelocity3811]

Hopefully soon.

[@nathanbrintnall7597]

I disagree with your point on WW's "more refined combat" in TP you control the fight. The moves you receive, while optional, allow the player to feel more in control of the fight, rather than waiting for a button prompt like in WW. Also the game world. While completing WW is fun, I found the sailing to be monotonous. It got old for me after a couple hours. In TP, it may be more streamlined, but the optional things felt more rewarding and less like pointless filler to get another Joy Pendant. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

[@victalfaithful2003]

So you'd rather run around aimlessly with barely anything to explore?

[@laakyz]

@@victalfaithful2003 That's what the great sea feels like to me. Aimless sailing around with nothing (interesting) to explore

[@dragonmaster1500]

I still prefer TP over WW. However that is just my own opinion, I liked WW don't get me wrong, but I did like TP's Story, dungeons and Gameplay better than WW and I don't think that the loss of the magic meter in TP was really that big of an issue.

[@saricubra2867]

Twilight Princess's music has one thing that WW lacks so much: Leitmotivs. It must easily win in the music department, it has way more effort to it and pays off. Also, no other game has an unique piece after defeating an enemy like Twilight Princess. Boss Defeated is magical, also perfect as a tune to wake up.

[@mapshader260]

Yeah and really good melodies as well. I tihnk that twilight princess really is divided into different places instead of wind waker where everything has this "WW theme"

[@hidinginmycaropeningpokemo9006]

To this day, I wake up to the great fairy fountain theme from Ocarina

[@ColtonBCasey]

I don't care who wins. I'm just glad you made this

[@enchantedorange3141]

I like this guy. He doesn't care which game wins and he doesn't think "Every opinion of mine is right"

[@JOVAHK11N]

Twilight Princess won in one less category but still won in the most important ones. Overall I think TP was a more epic game to play than Wind Waker for me.

[@caleb6027]

facts

[@mcihay246]

It is true that it's epic, but that's it. It feels epic. Morpheel looks epic, but they were sorely disappointing. The Goron Mines look epic in regards to setting, but getting around the place *cough* Iron boots *cough* ruin the experience. It's a nightmare to even replay because of the tediously long tutorial, the slow climbing speed, etc. Won't say Wind Waker doesn't have it's flaws. The Grand Sea for one is really expansive... but it's ruined by the reefs and other boring islands like it. Not only that, but even if it appears that you can sail anywhere, the King of Red Lions restricts where you can go. It's like opening the world up only to be restricted to go a straight line.

[@Rotodojo-yf9sq]

Agreed. Twilight Princess in my opinion should have won on the gameplay category. It's addictive and has no limitations unlike other Zelda games.

[@TetraTheThief]

Honestly I think Wind Waker has better Bosses and Story than Twilight Princess. Link was not just given the Triforce of Courage, nor the Master Sword at full force. He had to prove to the Gods he is worthy, he had to replenish the sword’s power by finding the Sages’ descendants (which by the way it dark itself... Ganon really killed those 2 sages), he had to fish the damn pieces from the SEA all to save his sister and that transitioning into saving the rest of the world is perfectly done imo. Ganondorf’s intentions, collection of thoughts and actions along with the memorable characters and more relatable story beats Twilight Princess. As for the bosses? That’s a bit tougher but I still think Wind Waker had better bosses, both visually and in design. The mini-boss where we had a Bokoblin was a bit meh because it was the second battle ever in the game (the first being saving Tetra on Outset Island), but saving Medli, the Darknuts, Mothula, PHANTOM GANON and the hidden sea creatures help carry the Wizzrobe battle and Bokoblin battle. (Yes I know this is 3 years late idc I like discussing zelda!)

[@victalfaithful2003]

@@mcihay246 that was before you get the windwaker lol idiot

[@DefinitivNichtSascha]

I think you missed an important point when talking about the games' stories: The main characters, which are sternly contasting their counterparts. In Wind Waker, Link is not a destined Hero chosen by the gods, nor does he want to be one. He just ends up in the whole debacle because he really wants to have his sister back and courageously rushes to save her. Quite contrarily, the Hero of Twilight was chosen by the godess to save the world. He did not have to prove himself worthy by enduring the trials of the Tower of the Gods, replenishing the Master Sword's power or reassembling the Triforce of Courage. And while the Hero of Twilight certainly is a badass in what he does, he did nothing to earn it and was just "born" with it. Secondly, there is Zelda. I don't have as much to say about her. Tetra is the Captain of a pirate crew. They are selfish and greedy, as pirates are, doing only what they deem fit. The exact opposite is the proper monarch we see in Twilight Princess, who is very calm and collected about her descisions. And finally there is Ganondorf. In the Era of Twilight we see a man that is cruel and cunning, just like he was in Ocarina of Time, because exactly the events of said game have never come to pass in this timeline. That is the reason why he's pretty much the same here. He's survived an execution, killed a sage in the process and was deemed a big enough threat to be sealed inside a different realm. This, along with the fact that he just got the Triforce of Power boosted his ego massively, which is why he appears to Zant as a god. The Era of the Great Sea gives us a man whose plans have been thwarted twice. Once by the Hero of Time and the second time by the gods themselves, who flooded the entire land just because of his actions. While having been sealed for centuries, Ganondorf had a lot of time to think. Which is why he is a lot more calm and thoughtful in the Wind Waker, planning every step perfectly. He probably also thought a lot about his past as well as his motives, the latter originally having been to free the Gerudo from their land that is nothing but death, but due to Demise's curse those intentions were turned malicious. And surely he had realised that he was the actual wrong party, as even the gods were opposed to him, so he was perhaps even trying to resist Demise's curse. He didn't kill any of the girls at the Forsaken Fortress. He did not kill Link either, even though he had the chance to do so twice. And he also didn't slice Zelda during the final battle but just slapped her away. And he didn't turn the world above the sea into a wasteland like he did with Hyrule in Ocarina of Time. Maybe he just wanted a second chance at ruling Hyrule, a chance to redeem himself. Overall I feel that Wind Waker's characters were a lot more human that the ones in Twilight Princess, who were more reminiscent of the stereotypes in fairy-tales.

[@JojovonKoopa]

Wow. Just wow.

[@isaacmorrow7077]

All that for 6 likes, but I agree.

[@petery6432]

Certainly very interesting, although the behavior behind Twilight Princess Ganondorf does make sense. Ganondorf in Wind Waker had been first beaten by the Hero of Time and sealed away, comes back furious, and then is stopped by a Divine Intervention. This very much humbled him by the time of the Wind Waker, which is why is behavior is so. Twilight Princess Ganondorf is basically that second return. When Ganondorf was first sealed away, he deeply wanted revenge as he talks about exterminating their decendents when the seal in broken. It's safe to assume this same mindset carried over to the Child Timeline as Link and Zelda were presumably involved in stopping his plot before it was excecuted which explains his behavior in Twilight Princess as he is getting that revenge and loving every second of it (although Wind Waker Ganondorf is still the more developed). And honestly I don't really find Twilight Princess Zelda's character very fairy tailish. Most Princesses in fairy tales are not super serious the way Twilight Princess Zelda is. They are often a lot more care-free. Skyward Sword Zelda is way more comparable to a fairy tale Princess, but then again she wasn't a Princess in that game.

[@petery6432]

And also, Link did have personal motives behind his actions. King Bulblin, who was helping Zant, carried off the children of his village, of whom he was close with. Thus, he had reasons to fight Zant and then Ganondorf beyond "it's his duty as hero". Plus, while he was the chosen hero, he was roped in before he realized he was, and he still had to prove himself worthy of the title. The first encounter with the Hero's Shade shows that as Link gets knocked back effortlessly when he tries to attack him, as well as Zant effortlessly beating him after the 3rd dungeon.

[@jinmiguel6884]

I'd put characters separate from the story. Also while I would put the wind waker characters of wind-waker ahead of Twilight Princesses roster. I'd still give story to twilight princess due to the levity and amount of extra plot lines.

[@thejackofalldans786]

You ignored a lot of pretty big negatives for WW, like the fact that in order to get around the big ocean, you HAVE to sail unless you get the very optional teleportation song and unlock the Tele points... And the fact that ww HD fixed flaws like having to find the charts for the triforce and paying to decipher them and then going and finding the shards...nothing was really changed with TP HD other than added stuff and graphics...imo TP should have won, especially considering most of the songs in WW did have pieces of songs from OoT in them. Don't add negatives to one game but not include them in the other.

[@basil9816]

The teleportation song isn't optional, you actually need it to get the fire & ice arrows for the main quest. And you don't have to unlock the tele points etiher.

[@elijahbauer8488]

The grand sea was so big because of the GCs tech limitations, so it would be a waste no th to fix it. That does not mean that TP is more flawless than WW, just that WW had to make compromises for the hardware back the that dont have to be made anymore.

[@Jdudec367]

Elijah Baurer i'd say it really is less flawed it didn't even need a remake wind waker to me is more comparable to skyward sword both great games but flawed they both have stupid padding in them aswell

[@dachking6657]

I sense someone who doesn’t like exploration and immersion, someone who prefers fast travel and getting things done as quickly and unmemorably as possible.

[@dexeronstarsurge]

@@dachking6657 yeah.. Wheres the value of exploration in an empty world of basically nothing but ocean. If you fit all the islands in the game right next to each other, 90% of the map would be pure water.

[@CastledCard]

I really don't know how you could give gameplay to Wind Waker. The combat in Twilight Princess was the best in the series until BotW came out.

[@morbideddie]

Agree 100%. Windwakers combat was pretty basic, there was some variety due to parrying and items but the sword based combat in TP has more depth. The problem TP has is that beyond the finisher no other advanced move is required to progress. it's a shame as if the additional moves were mandatory the designers could have better capitalized on them by creating enemies that can only be defeated using certain tactics.

[@kylehill3643]

So in TP you can take an enemies weapon and swing it back at them and the weapons will have different handling abilities?

[@dez-m]

BotW is one of my Favorites :)

[@lokii-1981]

@@kylehill3643 so in WW you can learn different combat moves to enhance your fighting style that are complex and actually look good?

[@sezarsurge9037]

@@kylehill3643 no but you can use diffrent weapons

[@beppobungle9032]

I feel that as wind wakers music is amazing, I feel the scores that really had the power to change my mindset, mood, or entire outlook of the games tone clearly belonged to TP. With songs as beautiful as midnas lament and Hyrule field theme and so much more could change my mood and make me happy or sad and really let me escape my reality. I also feel that the game world in wind waker, as amazing as it is, falls short to TP. In TP your introduction to the area is not the best way to introduce the place but it shows how you are the only one that can save everyone turned to a spirit because of the dark powers of zant. You are the only one aware of this dark fate this world has come to while others just see monsters and are scared by them. Not to mention wind waker was lacking a huge icon of almost all Zelda games-The legendary Hyrule field.

[@BravertheRobin]

I feel like the combat in wind waker was way more button mashy and less refined than Twilight Princess.

[@ShadowWizard224]

Wolf Link combat is literally the most boring and tedious thing I have ever seen in my life.

[@that1guyweknow153]

I think Twilight Princess will always be my favorite because it was the first Zelda game I played. I love the fighting mechanics, tone, dungeons, and more. It did a really good job at scaring me when I was little especially in the Twilight. And I loved the fact that you could turn into a wolf. And I think Midna is the best companion in the Zelda franchise. I personally don't mind the slow pace as I see it as build up. But I still love Wind Waker too don't get me wrong

[@ravus9935]

Notification Squad! I love these videos. Edit: I'm rooting for Twilight Princess Edit 2: Eh. Is the magic meter really a good thing? Also, I'd say that TP has better variety in the sword techniques than WW, and better enemies. Edit 3: I strongly disagree about the soundtrack being better in WW than TP. They both had great music, but I'd say that TP has better variety and a lot of great songs that weren't remixes. Edit 4: I assume that the next Zelda game vs game videos will include WW Vs MM and TP Vs SS. Is that right? About this video, I feel that TP should've crushed WW in this battle since I believe the victories in Soundtrack and Gameplay rightfully belong to Twilight Princess. Anyway, I'd like to see individual videos in the future for every 3D Zelda game vs Breath of the Wild. MM Vs BOTW, WW Vs BOTW, TP Vs BOTW, and SS Vs BOTW. I know that's unrealistic, but I'd like to see MM Vs BOTW at the very least.

[@milesmonaco2625]

I would say twilight princess also wins in the world... Strangly enough. It is cool to look For islands when you find them in wind waker but It's a really boring process. Is it a good thing when you spend hours on a small island that's probably less than 10% the size of windfall village and less than 10% as intreasting... That's probably not a good thing.

[@petery6432]

Yeah, the fact that you were required to use certain technics to kill certain, non-boss enemies in Wind Waker makes the combat worse than Twilight Princess' combat, as they sometimes feel like gimmick fights. It definitely should have won the gameplay catogory. And also, in the music catogory what they didn't mention is that most of the remixes tend to be unique references beyond the simple music track. Like the Sacred Grove theme was a remix of the Lost woods, but the area itself was a lot like the Lost woods. And Stallord having the Volvagia fighting theme suggests that Stallord was very similar to Volvagia as a full flesh monster. The fact that most remixes had connections beyond the music definitely gives it the edge in my opinion.

[@TetraTheThief]

Honestly I think Wind Waker has better Bosses and Story than Twilight Princess. Here’s why: Link was not just given the Triforce of Courage, nor the Master Sword at full force. He had to *prove* to the Gods he is worthy, he had to replenish the sword’s power by finding the Sages’ descendants (which by the way is dark itself... Ganon really killed those 2 sages), he had to fish the damn pieces from the SEA all to save his sister and that transitioning into saving the rest of the world is perfectly done imo. Ganondorf’s intentions, collection of thoughts and actions along with the memorable characters and more relatable story beats Twilight Princess imo. Ganon wanted to get Hyrule for his people who were living in a desert where, as he said, the wind carries death. Hot, cold, death. But it led to him wanting more and more until eventually it was not for his people but for himself. And don’t get me started on Hyrule. The King of Red Lions, or as he is actually known, King of Hyrule, stays in his Kingdom rather than attempting to go with Link. Link then sails on the King of Red Lions along the Pirates on his next adventure, probably to remember his friend, the King. Tetra/Zelda doesn’t change her cocky attitude even till the end, and honestly? Between the chest stab and a forehead stab? The forehead stab feels more powerful. As for the bosses? That’s a bit tougher but I still think Wind Waker had better bosses, both visually and in design. The mini-boss where we had a Bokoblin was a bit meh because it was the second battle ever in the game (the first being saving Tetra on Outset Island), but saving Medli, the Darknuts, Mothula, PHANTOM GANON and the hidden sea creatures help carry the Wizzrobe battle and Bokoblin battle. As for your argument on the music... Wow. I mean, STRONGLY disagree? The Wind Waker soundtrack demolishes Twilight Princess’ in a glorious fashion imo. They didn’t even include the Mini Boss Theme or the Grandmother’s theme (OH MY GOD MY HEARTTTT IT MADE ME ACTUALLY FEEL A SENSE OF “I’LL SAVE HER GRANDMA”) in their list when mentioning the win. Twilight Princess has great music, all Zelda games do, but it definitely lacks where it counts imo.

[@monstar3626]

I 100% agree with you

[@monstar3626]

@@TetraTheThief nah tp music is way better, as well as bosses and dungeons

[@TheYellowKazoo]

Hi, Konrad and Joseph! You guys put so much time and effort into your videos, and it shows! Keep up the great work.

[@commonwealthrealm]

Hello and thanks :) Our editor Jannis did a great job editing this one!

[@TheYellowKazoo]

Yes, a great job, indeed! And your script and ideas are fantastic as well!

[@jeremyhalla1757]

WW is one of my all time favorite games, but TP is still pretty good

[@SNinjaQK]

tp sucked cos it was hard

[@intothekey]

Mugiwara no Link That's fine if that's your opinion but it isn't a fact. I prefer harder puzzles in my Zelda games.

[@HolleWalle]

Mugiwara no Link of all the arguments you've made this is worse because: A) TP wasn't hard B) A game being hard doesn't make it bad

[@awsesometech1791]

No debate on personal preference. For me TP had the better replay. Thanks for taking time to comment

[@CaptainFALKEN]

Twilight Princess was the easiest Zelda game I have EVER played. The enemies were garbage can easy and SLOW. You can go through the whole game without taking any damage, not to mention it tells you where every piece of heart is in the game.

[@dabeshgamer2356]

Artistically I like Windwaker but overall prefer Twilight Princess slightly more. However only with a single play through of both. Perhaps trying to replay them would bog down Twilight with it's slower beginning. For now, I'd still choose TP art style for its more realistic art style, two world mechanic, story, and character companion.

[@Alakaizer]

Twilight Princess didn't have a two world mechanic. For it to be a second world, it has to actually differentiate from the first one more than just being darker visually and forcing a gameplay mode that later becomes optional for the player.

[@petery6432]

The slower beginning of Twilight Princess definitely gets very annoying on a later playthrough, but so does the long sailing segments of Wind Waker.

[@pjstraightedge]

I just always had more fun playing Twilight Princess. It just has such a darker serious overtone and I love the sroundtrack being it felt so epic, I always thought the Wind Waker soundtrack was too cartoony. PIus I thought the wolf sections were a nice change of pace, and Midna is easily the greatest sidekick in the entire series.

[@victalfaithful2003]

Nah you like tp cause you wanna look hard

[@ViewtifulBeau]

I like both for different reasons. But if i had to pick one, I'd pick Windwaker. Still my favorite 3D Zelda. Its so bright colorful and fun. Humorus with interesting characters and enemies and items. Always new islands to discover and things to do. I like the figurines side quest it was like Smash Bros trophies but Zeldafied it was neato. I do like Twilight Princess' music and sword skills and Midna who's without a doubt, THE best companion in the series. (Sorry Ezlo!!!) Didn't like playing as a wolf at all nor do I like collecting Tears of Light. Still a good game tho.

[@ViewtifulBeau]

Transcendent Sacred Courage She's honestly my least favorite but she's got her momments.

[@_____Wolf_____]

Yep Wind waker is the most Unrealisyic Zelda game i have EVER Seen...i even prefer majora's mask a looot more than wind waker i just i hate almost everything of wind waker lmao😂😂😂😂

[@_____Wolf_____]

Correction: unrealistic

[@fortnightistrash3944]

Windwaker had worse dungeons. Wind waker had tedious sailing. Wind waker was less epic. Wind waker was short and has nothing to redeem itself with. At least majoras mask had tons of secrets and sidequest which made up for that

[@liwo8998]

@@fortnightistrash3944 i cant trust you! you use the word "epic"

[@nicholass9535]

I honestly find twilight princess sooo much better after playing both of the games

[@sizzle_falco]

Thats weird cuz even ocarina is better than twilight princess

[@nicholass9535]

@@sizzle_falco Yes Ocarina is better if not the best but I'm saying that I find Twilight Princess better than The Wind Waker

[@jamighanijr8128]

@@sizzle_falco are you dumb. This is about wind waker and twilight princess. Not ocarina of time

[@joebaron9035]

@@sizzle_falco what's weird about it?? He's literally staying on topic about the video, you're the only weird one here I swear I hate stupid comments so bad

[@jantheking7028]

@@nicholass9535 yeah but wind waker better than ocraina of time. I played both of them last year so I'm not blinded by nostalgia

[@voltrainer]

Honestly i still find twilight princess better. Some of your comments on it sounded purposely bashing.

[@SNinjaQK]

tp sucks cos it's hard

[@voltrainer]

Mugiwara no Link *raises a finger and lets it fall* are.... you're kidding... right?

[@intothekey]

VoltaireSurge They're both Juggernauts so a lot of people disagree. They didn't seem to bashing TP to me.

[@voltrainer]

intothekey just some points sounded like they had been and then just gushed a bit with windwaker.

[@wizardtoad7459]

Twilight princess is so easy, unless you do hero mode with only 3 hearts and Ganondorf amiibo.

[@whatgsaid]

I find it really interesting that on top of comparing the games for the reasons you mentioned, you’re also in fact comparing the very first incarnations of Link after the Hero of Time in the Child and Adult-era timelines, respectively. This is a great underlying theme. Awesome video!

[@phantasm2132]

i found twilight princess much more fun and enjoyable but heres my rankings and opinion for each category \/ \/ \/ story:windwaker was better it had more emotion in happiness, sadness and stuff like that whereas twilight princess does also have a very good story and has more interesting characters but id say windwaker was still a bit better side quests: windwaker cos it had a much bigger world with more quests mini games and islands to discover. twilight princess had some side quests but they were kinda boring like the golden bug thing and the poe soul hunter game world: is quite hard to decide because windwaker has a more open world feel to it but twilight princess's different locations were so cool to find and look around like the gerudo desert and eldin province so i think twilight princess wins dungeons: i think this is my personal preference but i think twilight princess completely crushed windwaker because to be honest the only dungeons i liked in windwaker were dragon roost cavern and the earth temple whereas twilight princess i thourougly enjoyed all of them except for temple of time and lakebed temple. bosses: once again twilight princess was definitely much better because i enjoyed all the bosses in twilight princess especially stallord and windwaker had some cool bosses too like gohma, but twilight princess definitely won. gameplay: this was quite close i think twilight princess won, the combat was much better in twilight princess and so were the items and it was still good in windwaker but i thought it was much better in twilight princess soundtrack: windwaker wins quite easily cos it had so many goo songs especially dragon roost and the overworld theme whereas there was only 1 especially good song in twilight princess which was midna's lament

[@LiquidChamploo]

Wind Waker definitely had a more free adventuring feeling while TP felt so geared towards the plot that it was hard to get distracted. I also think Midna was the best part of TP next to Ganondorf, I would prefer TP if Zelda wasn’t apart of the ending. I felt like Midna and Link deserved their own moment. But WW was just so brave and impactful on Nintendo’s part. Reminding us that games and story are much more than graphics.

[@godful8382]

The graphics were astounding though

[@LiquidChamploo]

@@godful8382 For TP? Absolutely groundbreaking and more “dark” I agree. I still love that game to the core. Felt like Ocarina Of Time follow up we were all waiting for

[@godful8382]

@@LiquidChamploo both tp and wind waker

[@ShadowWizard224]

The reason why Wind Waker had a more free adventure feeling to it is because it was literally the first and only open world 3D Zelda until Breath of the Wild came out. The Deku Leaf is literally the greatest Zelda item of all time and the use of the item makes the world feel even more open and free. It was the first item ever that helped Link travel through the air and not only do you get it early in the game but you get to constantly use it all throughout the game as well. It actually serves a meaningful purpose and helps with the traveling and navigation of the over world. It also helped pave the way for the “Hand Glider” as the Deku Leaf was technically the first to pull it off. You can also use it as a weapon against enemies which is absolutely brilliant. 🍃 The exploration, side quests, navigating the great sea, finding secrets and treasures, discovering mysteries, etc etc…. It’s absolutely amazing and even though it’s known for its cheerful bright vibes it actually has one of the darkest and deepest stories in the whole franchise. Just like the vast ocean itself the secrets lay deep within its depths 🌊 Twilight Princess is a great experience but Wind Waker will always hold a special place in my heart 🛡️

[@hawkshot1831]

how could u say that twilight princess suffers in soundtrack the music in that game is too good to be called less good than windwaker

[@Clinkety]

TriforceGamer03 It's mediocre, if you compare it to The Wind Waker.

[@hysuka2]

TriforceGamer03 because most of them are just rehashed Ocarina songs.

[@RetroGameThrowdown1]

no no no!!!! Wind Waker is EASILY better.

[@inexfan89]

TriforceGamer03 the messy electronic music during the fights in Twilight as Wolf Link is terrible.

[@hawkshot1831]

inexfan89 no its unique

[@Sam_Hetfield]

The Staff Credits song from WW alone breaks the tie. It's just so jolly and it wraps up the story so well it might as well be the best track in the series!

[@mcihay246]

WW Ganondorf: So strong and impressively tricky that Link requires Zelda as a distraction. TP Ganondorf: Can turn into a gigantic beast, fight on horseback... and be distracted by a Fishing Rod of all things...

[@petery6432]

The Fishing rod trick is not intentional as there is no special animation for Ganondorf that happens when you pull it out. It's not like using Mighty Bananas to distract the Yiga guards. That doesn't really count in an argument comparing the 2 characters.

[@mcihay246]

@@petery6432 Oh. I'm aware... Still funny though.

[@petery6432]

@@mcihay246 Yeah, it's just the way you worded it made it sound like it was an intentional weakness of Ganondorf.

[@mcihay246]

@@petery6432 Regardless if it was intentional or not, it's still an exploit that would affect the boss battle. Thus the impression of TP Ganondorf.

[@petery6432]

@@mcihay246 At that point, Monk Maz Koshia is not very great because he can be distracted by Mighty Bananas

[@L0rdMace]

When the category dungeons came up I was like, "Twilight Princess all the way!" Plus having a bias, Twilight Princess is my favorite game so I obviously thought it should win.

[@arieltabbach4946]

Mace Wilch I wasn’t 100% sure it would win, cause ww is amazing but I do prefer tp

[@dicedown_]

Well the Forbidden Forest in WW is probably one of the best dungeons in the Zelda series. Why? Well the forbidden forest is actually Kokiri Forest From Oot. You get to return there, but, it’s not how it used to be

[@Chris-sp7vv]

Story - Wind Waker Side Quests - Wind Waker HUB World - Twilight Princess Dungeons - Is this a challenge? Twilight Princess Bosses - Wind Waker Gameplay - Twilight Princess Soundtrack - Twilight Princess

[@godli6063]

Chris9392 I like Gameplay more for windwaker And soundtrack windwaker and The bosses

[@Chris-sp7vv]

No that I think about it, Wind Waker’s bossed were better Edit: And the story is better in Wind Waker

[@thejamman4070]

Chris9392 I mostly agree with you, I disagree on the soundtrack for one simple reason, I can’t recall many tracks from Twilight Princess. I love both games, but besides Hyrule Field and Midna’s Lament, I cant remember any other tracks. WindWaker I’ve got: Outset Isle, Dragon Roost, The Sailing Theme and Windfall Island. I agree with you on gameplay for Twilight Princess though. That game is so much fun! The combat was so fluid and I loved all the extra moves you could learn! The dungeons were so good! Every puzzle you come across is so memorable and makes you feel damn smart for figuring out the solution. Man. I love Zelda games.

[@raferalstonisgoat4457]

bosses from both games were so easy

[@raferalstonisgoat4457]

@The Jam Man hyrule field, death mountain theme, faron woods, sacred grove, lake hylia, ordon ranch, boss defeated theme, hidden village theme, queen rutelas theme, city in sky theme, snowpeak theme, midnas theme, kakariko... etc... all amazing songs you should check out.

[@wareforcoin5780]

Twilight Princess has _the_ best Ganondorf battle I've ever played. Hands down, perfect.

[@JanezKrnc-San]

Gosh.. zelda series is amazing.

[@americanalligator1284]

Indeed

[@TheStrataG]

Another amazing high-quality video!

[@songoku9348]

Do ALTTP vs ALBW next

[@teddie3862]

albw would most likely win considering it was purposely focusing on enhancing the things that defined alttp

[@Linkthroughtime77]

ALttP was the changing point in the series. People compare to OoT so I'd say ALttP wins.

[@teddie3862]

arent these simply which is a better game and not what it has done for the series? if not, then alttp definitely wins.

[@stopit6229]

@@teddie3862 you're forgetting the one thing that will make ALTTP win *N O S T A L G I A*

[@aberagezahegn6389]

Sting there basically the same exact game

[@MrTweej]

Story- Twilight Princess Side Quests- Windwaker Game World- close call but Twilight Princess Dungeons- Twilight Princess by a mile Bosses- Twilight Princess except for the final boss Gameplay- Twilight Princess Soundtrack- Twilight Princess

[@testingmysoup5678]

MrTweej idhave to disagree with story, game world, gameplay and soundtrack

[@TheBrutalSax]

I agree with the world. I'm just a sucker for alternate and dark worlds in games. The Twilight worlds was one of my favorites.

[@elfsong713]

MrTweej For me, soundtrack is a tie. And I did like the final boss of TP.

[@ShallBePurified]

Story - TP Side quests: WW Game world: WW Dungeons: TP Bosses: TP Gameplay: WW Soundtrack: WW

[@tyleramon8371]

I'd give Sidequests and soundtrack to Windwaker, but no more. If you think about playing the games as someone not looking to complete everything, just a casual gamer, WW is annoying.

[@jankmedia1985]

Started playing TP HD the other day and one thing I thought of during the scene where Link and Ilyia are attacked. Ilyia was definitely shot with an arrow and Link takes a club straight to the dome...I thought maybe the Spirit Spring kept them alive when they otherwise would have died. Both fall into the water, Ilyia is taken hostage and Link becomes unconscious. Just a thought but it definitely seems plausible considering the Spirit Springs restores your hearts and Ilyia takes Epona there to soothe and heal her minor injuries.

[@masteryoshi87]

Your number 3 is bull shit. Twilight has a far better game world. free roaming a boring ocean is not better then a well crafted land of Hyrule.

[@ceddy9869]

Yeah, but what's the point of going through a world with nothing besides the occasional bokoblin or bird? Atleast the ocean shows some signs of threats.

[@linksgrandma5269]

Master Yoshi This comment hurts me it's just so stupid

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

ceddy 24 the scenery is at least different. Besides, same argument can be applied to the damn ships in WW as well. Love both games anyways.

[@ceddy9869]

Fair point. And yeah, both games are great.

[@CMC004]

Twilight Princess is the best Zelda game and no one can tell me otherwise

[@eliseo.bazan13]

Finally some one agrees

[@kohaiame2691]

I agree it's still my favorite, I liked the artsyle they used for that one and the dark yet epic story.

[@7th_Link]

I agree.

[@05_z]

I like them both the same

[@bobasbountytv1572]

No you like windwaker

[@jpm7764]

I say Twilight Princess wins easy

[@joeytheboobear8032]

I say wind waker wins

[@bobasbountytv1572]

Have you played wind walker cuz it's good

[@joeytheboobear8032]

Boba'sBounty TV I have though lol

[@bobasbountytv1572]

@@joeytheboobear8032 nah man that was supposed to go to Z.

[@chrisruston3920]

I just knew WW would take the crown! What I didn't know is I agree on every category. Never realized how close the 2 matched up till now! While BotW now takes the crown of favorite Zelda for me it still doesn't hold that charm that WW will always have!

[@SNinjaQK]

ww still has the crown cos botw's story sucked balls

[@heavydonkeykong5190]

Story=/=gameplay.

[@awsesometech1791]

TP presented a dark world that needed to be saved. So many dark moments. Personally I thought it superior to the WW story. Though I liked WW in the end the King gave his life .... both are powerful. The question is meanless other than to get us to talk.

[@Paradox-xm9zq]

@@heavydonkeykong5190 It's not just story. The dungeons are very underwhelming, the shrines are bland and uninspired, the korok seeds are repetitive, and most side quests are "get x amount of y".

[@_____Wolf_____]

Honestly TP music is the beeest Zelda music i have everrr heard and also i feel that...the TP music vibe is like u can use it in a movie and all like it gives a vibe of realism

[@kingnate8974]

Twilight princess will always be the best. Sailing was so boring and TP had way better dungeons too

[@kingnate8974]

I love wind waker too lol it's just that TP is my all time favorite game.

[@_Teej_264]

King Nate I counter that with saying sailing was sped up in HD and horse riding or rolling in Hyrule field is just as boring

[@SomeUserNamedEmma]

King Nate, I would take the worst dungeons over the inappropriate great fairy in TP

[@enniopaone]

TJ Lowe Hyrule field has alot better music than the Great Sea (I still think the Great Sea has good music just nit as giid as Hyrule Field) and I felt like the scenery in the background really made Horse riding more fun.

[@thejamman4070]

King Nate I love the ocean and I love sailing so WindWaker wasn’t boring to me at all. I loved every minute of exploration, even the Tri-Force fetch quest.

[@jamesdudeck231]

Okay firstly I appreciate how much effort you guys put into these videos. You guys are awesome. But there are somethings that I feel you might have overlooked. Firstly, twilight princess does have a really long introduction but it isn't by choice. TP was the wii launch title so it had to demonstrate all of the wii motion controls to people who never used them before. So I don't find it just to hold at least the ordan village section against it. And secondly, the side quests section seemed really wired for what is labeled as a side quest. If you think about filling in WW map is really tedious. And let's not forget the trifoce pieces quest, which is better off than it is in the original but still really tedious. And lastly (sorry this is so long) warp points. TP's were just more convenient and made backtracking a breeze while WW's warps were only really good for long distance travels from the north to south or east to west ends, and nothing else. Backtracking is something you might want to consider when evaluating the game play section. Oh well just my really long thoughts

[@caseyredden9889]

I'm sorry but twilight princess had the way better categories and honestly you can only sail so much before you get absolutely sick of it so Idk just saying.... Twilight princess should have won not that windwaker is a bad game though

[@awsesometech1791]

Replay should be a category. For me, WW 2.5, TP 9. That says a lot. TP is engaging, and so much that I want to see it again! ! !

[@allanmhanson]

It isn't a bad game at all. It's my least favorite but is an amazing game.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

+Squid fangirl That's true, but I'm still not a fan of it. Even with the Swift Sail possibly being one of the first things you get, the sailing can get to be quite boring for me. It means you have less options of travel. In the land based games (OOT, MM, TP, BOTW), you can choose to get to your next destination on foot or horse, which is a lot more fun in my opinion, because it gives you more to do, like wasting time and messing around in the overworld or figuring out where to go next.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

+Awesome Tech I think that both based on the remasters are very replayable, unless you go for everything in one go, like myself (killed the replay value of BOTW for me). I will say that while the Miiverse stamps are about to be useless, they're a cool and nice addition to TP as well as the Tingle Bottles in WW.

[@rhysspeight7142]

Twilight Princess is kinda the same though, big empty field with barely anything in it.

[@shaan817]

I love the amount of effort you guys put into your videos! Keep up the amazing work!

[@cmac972]

Again, music is subjective. Honestly it shouldn't be used to judge the games in this fashion.

[@teddie3862]

honestly every point being brought up in these debates are all subjective, music especially, which is why i dont paticularly like seeing it brought up a point. with everything being subjective to whoevers debating, everything would all boil down to personal taste and what one would like to see in a zelda game.

[@dragonkingzippo]

have to disagree, the side quests in ww felt like chores i never went back to any of the minigames once i beat them in a playthrough and all the quests were fetch quests, while with tp i went back and did the fishing, snowboarding and bomb arrow river rafting for fun and tp's cave of ordeals was much better than ww's with a far better reward... as for the gameplay ww is a bit more counter attack heavy while tp feels more active. on the other hand tp has hands down better unique items, though their use outside of dungeons leaves a lot to be desired. also the great sea is so empty. ww has better base enemies though, and music, also i prefer the more up beat borderline comical tones, and ganon's development. tp went a little too dark for its length, or there just weren't enough light hearted moments to make up for the overall tone, and gannon was more or less shoehorned in halfway through, sure the final fight is arguably the best final fight in a zelda game, but ww gannon felt more relateable. that said ww was a bit too cartooney at times... and taking link's transformation in to account, puts tp ahead and i kinda hope the big n goes back to a more darker zelda with their next big 3d game

[@willy_th3_walrus257]

To me twilight princess wins. It's just great. If I'm going to be honest though I can't decide which one I think is objectively better

[@XxVampic_ArtzxX]

I personally prefer Twilight Princess. The game released the year I was born, 2006. I ended up learning about it when i was around 3-4 by watching okami and tp vidoes lol, but I didn’t know the game was a Zelda game. I’ve been in the Zelda fandom for 5-6 months and I absolutely love it. I think last month or the Montreal before I had gotten twilight princess because I loved Zelda so much and wanted to play a Zelda game. I remember I was stuck between skyward sword and twilight princess because I only have a wii lol. I really didn’t wanna play skyward sword cause lots of people hate it, but I didn’t want to play tp either cause Link turned into a wolf and I didn’t want to play Okami all over again. I ended up playing twilight princess and actually fell in love with it the moment I saw the title screen lmao. The game was amazing and it was my first Zelda game which made the experience even better. I ended up beating it in 295 hours(I don’t know if that’s a good time to beat it in or not lmao). The game is also a little nostalgic for me cause I watched a lot of tp and tp and okami videos when I was younger. I think even after I play more Zelda games (I’m getting a switch and I’m planning on playing botw even though Ik everything in it lol and I wanna play links awakening and botw 2 probably not hyrule warriors cuz I don’t like rbg games) twilight princess will be my favorite. I still would like to play windwaker though, it was even the game that I had wanted to play before I got tp but, u know wii lol (don’t have a GameCube controller). I hope they release windwaker hd for the switch cause I really wanna play it too, but twilight princess will always be my favorite Zelda game, and favorite game!

[@TheBeggies95]

I personnally think gameplay should have go to TP but hey i like both ;)

[@TetraTheThief]

Awesome video! I would’ve liked if you included the Mini-Boss theme with the mentioned soundtracks because it’s just WOW. Also would’ve enjoyed talking about the Triforce holders’ characters for the Story/Main Quest. Honestly I think Wind Waker has better Bosses and Story than Twilight Princess. Here’s why: Link was not just given the Triforce of Courage, nor the Master Sword at full force. He had to *prove* to the Gods he is worthy, he had to replenish the sword’s power by finding the Sages’ descendants (which by the way is dark itself... Ganon really killed those 2 sages), he had to fish the damn pieces from the SEA all to save his sister and that transitioning into saving the rest of the world is perfectly done imo. Ganondorf’s intentions, collection of thoughts and actions along with the memorable characters and more relatable story beats Twilight Princess imo. Ganon wanted to get Hyrule for his people who were living in a desert where, as he said, the wind carries death. Hot, cold, death. But it led to him wanting more and more until eventually it was not for his people but for himself. And don’t get me started on Hyrule. The King of Red Lions, or as he is actually known, King of Hyrule, stays in his Kingdom rather than attempting to go with Link. Link then sails on the King of Red Lions along the Pirates on his next adventure, probably to remember his friend, the King. Tetra/Zelda doesn’t change her cocky attitude even till the end, and honestly? Between the chest stab and a forehead stab? The forehead stab feels more powerful. As for the bosses? That’s a bit tougher but I still think Wind Waker had better bosses, both visually and in design. The mini-boss where we had a Bokoblin was a bit meh because it was the second battle ever in the game (the first being saving Tetra on Outset Island), but saving Medli, the Darknuts, Mothula, PHANTOM GANON and the hidden sea creatures help carry the Wizzrobe battle and Bokoblin battle.

[@chloemurphy3670]

The outcome had me on the floor rolling. 😂😂🤣 Wind Waker better than Twilight Princess? Um. No. Not in a million years. Twilight Prrincess Link is hot and Midna is best companion ever! You can't beat that!

[@brandond3698]

Disclaimer: I have not beaten TP I'm at the City In The Sky (I think that is what it is called?) I would choose Wind Waker, I liked the gameplay, the music, graphics, and the sailing part wasn't that bad! The triforce shards was stupid though. I like TP ALOT probably 4th or 3rd favorite Zelda game but I'm from what I remember it was really drawn out with the tears of light and the city of the sky was taking a long time with no progress. Tp is amazing but Wind Waker is my favorite game ever. (Well maybe Breath of the wild has something to say about that)

[@BankeronAnimations]

When you sit down to take a shit and commonwealth post a video ;)

[@commonwealthrealm]

A nice restroom break ;)

[@spadezap9728]

Twilight Princess HD! BEST, besides MM and BOTW

[@Cronalixz]

Bankeron Lmao, same

[@wicho2103]

I miss you gabe...

[@HyruleGamer]

Well Twilight Princess is my favourite Zelda game and game of all time, I just absolutely love everything about it, the story, game design, dungeon design and feel to the game. I really need to say how much I love the soundtrack from Twilight Princess as there is soooo many tracks I listen to all the time. Now don't get me wrong Wind Waker is one amazing game but Twilight Princess get's my pick for this one :) Also I love these video a lot CR, great work! :)

[@acadiamarie8060]

how could ppl say WW is better than TP lol..

[@dgkwigga7768]

I personally LOVEEEEE all of the dungeons in twilight princess. They are all PHENOMENAL to me. The boss fights, the mini boss fights, the puzzles and the dungeon layouts are all AMAZING. Dont get me wrong windwaker is no slouch with the dungeons either but i dont think it comes close to all the twilight princess dungeons. If botw 2 has dungeons and boss fights that are on par with twilight princess dungeons and boss fights and has the sidequests and in world hidden treasures of windwaker and the world of botw it would easily become my favorite zelda game and i think it would be hard to beat.

[@rach3850]

TP!

[@SNinjaQK]

no

[@teddie3862]

no

[@harikohli541]

I love Wind waker but Twilight Princess is my favorite zelda game and game in general. I will admit though that i get more JOY from wind weaker mainly due to the fun side quests and sailing the seas and the art style and its fun moments in the story. The reason I love Tp more though is cuz of how epic the game is, how epic the large world feels as i ride epona listening to that amazing music, how realistic, varied, beautiful, yet depressing, suffering, and dead the world feels, the better collection of dungeons, and how serious and mature it is, how the cultures are portrayed, midna, and just to me its the most epic Zelda adventure

[@xugreatone1]

Disagree largely with the victory. I love TP - has to be one of my favorite Zelda games altogether.

[@IdiotOfTheFVariety]

I gotta disagree on game world. WW sea definitely overstays its welcome, and considering that theres not much to do outside brief stretches of land, it gets old very quick. TP has much more environments and things to do in its overworld, not to mention Epona makes travel so quick. The added bonus of different races coinhabiting areas, like Kakariko, makes for a more realistic experience. Not to mention combat comes with more autonomy in TP. Aside from that, video was on point.

[@hyperhedgehog7]

if some of the hidden skills were required for some later enemies, and the skills were available from the beginning with hero's shade encounters acting as tutorials for first time players, then twilight princess would be far superior in gameplay.

[@seanrea550]

tp combat is great and it is fluid. the same cannot be said as much for wind waker, to ballance this out looking at equipment wind waker does have more usable equipment through out the game. where tp only has a handful of items that have practical use after a little while. I have played both in in the game cube.

[@OHomemquecalculava]

Sean Rea I personally disagree, at least from my experience with the originals. The clunky motion controls made combat tiring and boring for me, since it became way more about wiggling the wii-mote without a care in the world and the fight was over. In wind waker, combat always seemed more interesting, and had they added more unique mini-bosses, I'd have nothing to complain about it's combat.

[@seanrea550]

Tp wii version is one i have not played but on the game cube it did have fluid combat. One of the things that broke the fluid combat in ww was when uou guarded you could not move.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

OHomemquecalculava I agree, the woggle controls were pretty bad in TP on Wii. However, the video is referring to the HD remasters, and as far as they go as being the definitive versions of both games, the only reason TP's combat falls short is because they made it optional. Which is fine by me, it was just a nice extra side quest for people who wanted to do it. I recall doing it my first time just because I came across the Howling Statues by accident. In terms of combat, the Hidden Skills are so cool to use and help add some variety to your combat, with Wind Waker, the "A" button command prompt can sometimes not work that well and it didn't feel as engaging for me. I end up just spamming B the entire time unless I see a certain enemy where I need to use said prompt. In TP, they used the Hidden Skills to add an element of challenge to the game. If you don't get them, then that's fine, you can still finish the game. However if you do get them, you can try them out on various enemies to give combat a more strategic feel to it.

[@Quortezz3]

I'd give gameplay to Twilight Princess myself because of wolf link and horseback combat. The sea and boat are great, but TP I prefer the combat and what you can do, just slightly.

[@HIFZvsHABZ]

20:52 Battle 5 instead of Battle 7. I prefer the twilight princess soundtrack more.

[@qwert635yuiop9]

It sounded like you were specifically bashing TP in the gameplay category like when you said the combat was worse than WW when it was far superior and when you didn't mention how great Epona controls when compared to the KOTRL it would be better if you wouldn't just focus on getting to the deadlock part and actually giving the right information.

[@RinGoGuntheR]

Midna's Lament beats the whole OST from the windwaker IMHO.

[@riancaio5096]

Thas A Joke Right

[@WailingGecko]

Let me be honest when I say this. I love the two equally they are both so nostalgic. The music, the atmosphere, the dungeons and characters are good in both games.

[@bazzvid64]

Sky word sword vs twilight princess pls

[@brittneyrussell8158]

How on Earth did Wind Waker win game world? That's probably the biggest mistake in all these videos. One, very dull, open sea. Twilight Prince should have won hands down. The Twilight realm was insanely good.

[@PrincessAmanda2290]

yes WW has one of the best soundtracks in video game. however a good this adds nothing to gameplay! TP is a way better game is most parts

[@samcohen6078]

The music is one of the most important parts of a game for me, it really just enhances the game and makes you feel like you are actually in the game. I really disagree with you, but you can have your own opinions.

[@petery6432]

@@samcohen6078 Yeah. Something they really missed was how atmospheric Twilight Princess' soundtrack is. So many themes, while not as memorable as Wind Waker's, set incredible tones for the areas or moments in which they played.

[@Allaiya.]

I'd vote: 1) WW - I think WW had a way more lore heavy story. It actually made me sympathize with Ganondorf for a bit. 2) WW - Wind Waker had more interesting side quests. The Hero's Shade quest in TP was great though. But the magic armor used your rupees every second so I never used it. 3) I'd go with WW even though I wasn't a huge fan of all the water. I was disappointed in the overworld in TP. Felt linear and empty. 4) TP - Though Tower of the Gods was excellent, TP had a lot of well done dungeons and themes. 5) TP - The last battle with Ganondorf was amazing. Fighting possessed Zelda, beast Ganon, and then on horseback was lit. 6) I'd go with a tie here. 7) WW - Easily. For 3D zeldas overall I'd go: OoT, MM, WW, TP. I haven't played SS and currently am playing BoTW.

[@Dan-ef7lc]

I can already see the toxic fans that hate Skyward Sword without any reason hating on the next video if Skyward Sword wins.

[@Dan-ef7lc]

Transcendent Sacred Courage Me too man. I was almost crying when she entered her endless sleep. Really sad how some people just observe her in a matter of gameplay and not in a matter of story.

[@elfsong713]

Ash Ketchum Fi as a matter of story was nice. Fi as a gameplay companion was a huge, annoying pain in the ass.

[@Dan-ef7lc]

elfsong713 I really didn't feel this pain. It was kinda annoying sometimes, but I've seen MUCH worse in the Zelda series.

[@elfsong713]

I think it annoyed me more the second time I played the game. I just wanted to get through it. "Yes, yes, I know already!" "Are you sure you want to warp to this area?" "Yes, just &#@!*^% do it already!" It's kind of like that annoying talking owl in OoT that you are forced to listen to. lol

[@Dan-ef7lc]

elfsong713 Lol I have to agree with you in this one. I've replayed the game twice and I was forced to learn what I did already know. But she gives you an option to not relearn somethings.

[@oisinmurray3970]

Yes! A Game VS. Game I can watch without worrying about spoilers! :D

[@NrXJupiter]

Twilight princess >>>>>>>> Windwaker

[@MultiDudeman]

Twilight Princess definitely. Don't get me wrong I do love Windwaker. But Twilight Princess is just a bit better overall in more categories.

[@FabledThunder]

Twilight Princess will always be a winner in my book.

[@SNinjaQK]

in YOUR book

[@samanthajohnson56]

ThunderGun2 me too I love TP

[@fayrie905]

Tp. It’s one of the best games ever made. I like windwaker but the sword combat is SO much better in TP. Instead of just waiting to press a you have an amazing combat system. And wolf link is bad ASS.

[@jordanhamann9123]

I was so prepared to rant, but instead was pleasantly surprised. But even if you hadn't sided with WW, it still would've been an excellent video.

[@alexandredoiron2124]

I knew already who was going to win. I strongly disagree since TP won the most important categories for me and I grew to love it so much over the years. Got only to play WW once though...

[@corey2232]

TP always came across as a poor man's Ocarina of Time to me. It felt like it lacked its own identity, had no heart, and was pretty much just the same-ol-same-ol the entire game. It took no risks whatsoever, and was the least unique Zelda game I've ever played. It's like if Zelda took the Assassin's Creed route, and just opted for making the same game year to year, just better graphics, new areas, new side quests, and a few new mechanics. This time, Link can turn into a wolf...yay? Don't get me wrong, dungeons were well made as always, sound was good, graphics were good, gameplay was still Zelda in every way...just formulaic in every conceivable way. Still a good game, but one of the least impressive 3D Zelda games, probably tied with Skyward Sword (Skyward Sword is a worse overall game, but tried to do a lot of its own things, actually feeling different, plus had a better story).

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

But wasn't Wind Waker also just Ocarina of TIme spread out over a sea?

[@rhysspeight7142]

It felt like the game they didn't want to make. A lot of the decisions, such as the realistic art style and similarities to ocarina of time, seem to be more because of the fan outcry.

[@sunkenship9552]

Great video! I also prefer Wind Waker HD but it all just comes down to preference. I will say though that nothing will beat Wind Wakers soundtrack.

[@retrogamerfan123]

I hope the next Zelda for switch is powered by unreal engine 4 it's time we get a modern look again while the open world of breath of the wild and the badass of twilight princess

[@heavydonkeykong5190]

And the music of ocarina of time, and the story and dark tones of majoras mask and wind waker, and the exploration of botw.

[@jennfreeman1962]

Personally I find Twilight Princess better, and I admittedly find Twilight Princess's soundtrack better ngl

[@TheLegoMaster261]

I'm not gonna watch this video because I love Twilight Princess, and I don't wanna have the feeling of one of my favorite games being compared to and criticized. Not to mention the horrendous controversy that's probably going on in the comments right now.

[@SNinjaQK]

tp sucked cos guides

[@nayruofthezoras1458]

Mugiwara no Link Are you some kind of a troll trying to be edgy? Because you're failing miserably. Not to mention that your questionable grammar is laughable and confusing.

[@nayruofthezoras1458]

Donkey Kong Fan I love Twilight Princess too. Just an inch more then Wind Waker (I find them both excellent games regardless.) Also there were some bias against TP while they praise WW, making it a rather questionable fight.

[@LeopoldLitchenstein]

It's my second favorite Zelda game, ad while I DEFINITELY think it's much better than Wind Waker, I won't dismiss WW's budding charm. It's just a different styled Zelda game which I'm not a fan of. I prefer the land based games, and hell, my favorite is Skyward Sword for its unique qualities.

[@Linkthroughtime77]

My problem with Wind Waker is that it was practically nothing but ocean. If only we were allowed to travel Old Hyrule, get the 8 pieces of the triforce from 8 dungeons within Old Hyrule like Aonuma originally planned then maybe it would have stood a chance

[@peterlane1391]

You forgot a lot. Minigames not mentioned in TP include snowboarding, sumo with Gorons, the bug hunt and more. Also, you mention a ton of things in the great sea, but it takes forever to get there. They had to make a sail to fix that. Plus TP has bridge fights, horseback battles and other events you can get to quickly. And all of those things affect the story. As for combat, TP gives Link an arsenal both in human and wolf form. In WW Link mostly has Link's basic move set. There's no arguing the soundtrack though. TP' s original and atmospheric pieces are better than you give them credit for but WW kills it with the opening alone. It also has the better story.

[@Jacob-dh7ee]

How the hell does twilight have less refined combat? Clear bais for ww

[@petery6432]

No kidding. Using the Back Slice/Helm Splitter in Wind Waker felt like gimmick move, whereas in Twilight Princess using them makes you feel like a Master Swordsman.

[@bandicootsauce4569]

Still waiting for both of these games to be ported to Switch.

[@ddsjgvk]

While I like WW, I feel TP feels more like a Zelda. Why hate TP for taking stuff from oot but praise oot for feeling lttp?

[@richa16x]

I agree with all but the gameplay. I think they are equally matched with that. The underwater exploration, the wolf features, bomb arrows, upgradable sword skills that you can use controllable instead of waiting for A the pop up. They really as good or better than the boat many other items that you dont use or not interesting to use more, like the pear or bait. And why is the magic meter so praised? I hated it that I had to use it to glide with the leaf.

[@PairyKurta]

Are you kidding?? I seriously can’t remember a single piece of music from WW. TP literally had the best music in the series. Smh

[@gamerZANZUS]

I agree with all of this except gameplay, Twilight Princess definitely deserves that spot.

[@tyleramon8371]

I can't help but think you assume everyone wants to spend hours 100%ing Zelda boat simulator.

[@whosj0e588]

It’s really not that much dude

[@danasgamereviews3854]

So far, this is far more civil than the average youtube comment debate, kudos!

[@loftwyng131]

I wrote a massive rant but pressed cancel instead of comment FML

[@linkfan160]

This is the third time I've heard someone complain about how long the intro to Twilight Princess is. I've been playing it for years and I never got that impression. I thought it was a perfectly acceptable length. The game needs to give you time to learn how to play Link not just in his human form, but wolf form as well. It's a different version of him with different controls and attacks. Of course the game is going to have you play as him early on in the game. It's only logical, right? I thought so anyway. I guess I was wrong. I get that it's your opinion man and I'm not saying you're wrong, I just think it's odd that I've heard this complaint so many times but I can't relate to it myself. I'm sure Twilight Princess is going to demolish Skyward Sword, though. As much as I enjoyed SS TP is definitely superior.

[@petery6432]

It is long, but it's takes about an hour if you know what you're doing and that is including the Wolf section of getting out of Hyrule Castle. The Wolf tutorial I don't really mind because it felt like you were actually doing something.