The work beef between Shaq and Kobe, Part 2 | Big dog, little dog

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Күн бұрын

The "Shaq-Kobe beef" has become kind of a meme, just a flat cultural reference point. How to Make a Basket: Shaq vs. Kobe endeavors to go deeper than that, to figure out why and how these two legendary partners didn't get along, and how they achieved such greatness in spite of that.
Part 2 begins in 2000. After Shaq and Kobe won their first championship with the Lakers, it seemed like the feud between their two stars might be over. But while Shaq relished in finally reaching the mountaintop, Kobe was dissatisfied. He spent the whole summer working on his shot, hoping to become such an elite scorer that no one could deny him first-option status in the Laker offense. The Lakers kept winning, but Shaq didn't agree with Kobe's plan, and their conflicts in viewpoint inflamed the "work beef."
Part 3 premieres 11/7.
Directed and edited by Charlotte Atkinson
Motion graphics by Tyson Whiting
Art direction by Michael Das
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
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@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 11 ай бұрын
Heyo thanks for stopping by. If you missed part one and are a little lost, well here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5Wcd3molqx8ZtUsi=UD8mvLTAWN-BSlP_ Enjoy all around and appreciate you for being you.
@ayoaight
@ayoaight 11 ай бұрын
Best duo in my book Kareem with the skyhook Magic with the no look Was leaving ‘em so shook. It is a team game The crown’s on King James Jack Nicholson courtside Oooh look the score’s tied. Wham! Don’t give a damn punk Kobe down the middle, throw to Shaq... SLAM DUNK! The story for me Is Horry for three 2, 1, ANNHH!
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby 11 ай бұрын
Seth, thank you!!!!!! Please don’t let anyone else do the NBA ones! Masterpiece!
@piyushmasurkar3804
@piyushmasurkar3804 10 ай бұрын
We need part 3!!
@kelraya
@kelraya 11 ай бұрын
Only Seth could say Shaq Daddy Sandwich with such conviction
@teamdestroustion8870
@teamdestroustion8870 11 ай бұрын
Are you going to continue the fumble dimension stuff, sorry for asking, but I watch for channel for those, although these are good too
@davidtran2026
@davidtran2026 11 ай бұрын
I prefer BBQ CHICKEN
@LaughingJokerProd
@LaughingJokerProd 11 ай бұрын
Ngl, that SDS sounds pretty good
@checkeredcheetah9640
@checkeredcheetah9640 11 ай бұрын
The only thing that upset me is I have to wait for the other parts to come out it’s not like I don’t know this story we all do but still I want to watch it
@FlowboyVegas1
@FlowboyVegas1 10 ай бұрын
Yall are so 🏳️‍🌈 at every aspect
@pokehybridtrainer
@pokehybridtrainer 11 ай бұрын
There's this vibe of Kobe dealing with social anxiety. Once able to let people in, his relationship blossomed with Shaq and the Lakers. I admire that journey of self-realization.
@joshuabryant8504
@joshuabryant8504 11 ай бұрын
It looks so simple but in reality it's harder than it actually seems though.
@kyleowsen
@kyleowsen 11 ай бұрын
Also just sort of seems like the journey of going from 18 years old to 25 years old. Dude's brain wasn't finished cooking yet.
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 11 ай бұрын
​​@@kyleowsenmy biggest cricitism of Kobe is he could have been the GOAT if he went to college and worked through all that. 4 years of NCAA ball would have done wonders.
@MineShackle
@MineShackle 11 ай бұрын
@@kyleowsen Shaq is as childish as he was then right now btw lol
@PK-ts8iz
@PK-ts8iz 11 ай бұрын
​@@MineShackleLet's be fair, that's less surprising when compared directly to Kobe's growth because Shaq was 24-25 and had always been like that.
@TheBINIBALL
@TheBINIBALL 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate how Seth broke down the basketball of it and addressed the MJ comparison in the triangle offense. I mean Shaq and Kobe both had legit perspectives when you look at the basketball side but I wish they had a better way of communicating it with each other. Both high high basketball IQ all time greats. RIP Kobe
@Marchen07
@Marchen07 11 ай бұрын
Their communication was the downfall of the 2000's Lakers, both of them were too focused on the issue the other had than their problems. RIP Kobe
@TheBINIBALL
@TheBINIBALL 11 ай бұрын
@@Marchen07 Not to say this was only on Kobe because Shaq was the older dude and acted very childish but it just seems to me that Kobe didn’t truly realize this aspect until he went through those high scoring years in the doldrums with Smush, Kwame Brown etc. That’s why you could see he was a different guy after the MVP season and his partnership with Pau blossomed. If I’m not mistaken when Kobe tried to go for no. 6 w Dwight and saw how clownish dude was, he apologized to Shaq or realized what the difference was I think.
@wadephipps5239
@wadephipps5239 11 ай бұрын
We don't deserve content like this. Thank you, SB❤
@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 11 ай бұрын
you do though
@wadephipps5239
@wadephipps5239 11 ай бұрын
@@SecretBaseSBN 🥹🥹🥹
@pman8478
@pman8478 11 ай бұрын
​@@SecretBaseSBNthis is so dope and I agree but I also felt like OP in the way that I felt lucky to get a second part of this just as brilliant as the first as quick as we did.
@iwishiwasthomasshelby
@iwishiwasthomasshelby 11 ай бұрын
@@SecretBaseSBNthank you, SB, and thank you, Seth. It wouldn’t be the same if someone else did it.
@LiauJustin
@LiauJustin 10 ай бұрын
your best work yet, thank you!
@pjetrs
@pjetrs 11 ай бұрын
Kobe's story is just so fascinating. Instead of the larger than life career of MJ or the picture-perfect smooth sailing of Lebron, Kobe somehow feels relatable in his struggle for greatness. It's my favorite sport story, because he is one of the best ever, but still had the mentality of the underdog, trying to achieve the impossible, be better than MJ. His strengths are also his flaws, as this series perfectly shows. The tunnel vision and obsession made him great, but also hard to play with. And then to see how he matured in those years after Shaq and cemented his legacy with Gasol and just kept on grinding after that, while his team was getting worse by the year. It all adds up to this amazing life story. The best part is that when he retired and could let go of that obsessiveness, he became a great teacher and mentor. He had so much more to give, but his life arc up until his death is a remarkable story of human growth. What he has left behind is so much inspiration to grow, overcome and be a better person.
@KobeKid248
@KobeKid248 10 ай бұрын
Facts 💯
@RCB122398
@RCB122398 10 ай бұрын
Reading this made me tear up man. We miss you Bean ❤😔
@garretcamp9490
@garretcamp9490 10 ай бұрын
picture perfect smooth sailing of LeBron??? You could've subbed LeBron for Kobe in what you said and it would've made complete sense. What did Kobe deal with that LeBron hasn't.. aside of being called The Chosen One at age 16..??
@kjax0630
@kjax0630 7 ай бұрын
​@@garretcamp9490Kobe was compared to Jordan, the GOAT, from 18-25, then accused of needing Shaq....he lived up to the comparison and won without Shaq all through serious injuries and never having the physical attributes of a LeBron or a MJ.
@thehumannugakareemsupreme9484
@thehumannugakareemsupreme9484 6 ай бұрын
You can only relate too him if you're a selfish narcissist
@CCEkeke
@CCEkeke 11 ай бұрын
I miss the pre-social media days where basketball players trashed talked each other using books. Wilt vs Kareem is a great example.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 11 ай бұрын
Dear Wilt Chumperlane is an all time classic.
@Virgil191
@Virgil191 11 ай бұрын
spending months of their lives thinking of ways to jab at people they hated
@CCEkeke
@CCEkeke 11 ай бұрын
@@Virgil191 exactly!!
@Ray-c1r
@Ray-c1r 7 ай бұрын
​He called em that ?@@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 7 ай бұрын
@@Ray-c1r Yep.
@CCEkeke
@CCEkeke 11 ай бұрын
21:50 Also, Shaq dunking on the entire Nets team is always a thing of beauty.
@Evs78101
@Evs78101 11 ай бұрын
Guy was a human cheat code in his prime. How are you gonna post up a giant?
@yoinkhaha
@yoinkhaha 10 ай бұрын
To not feed prime Shaq just fundamentally ignores how basketball and its physical realities work. That’s true in any era.
@moadewunmi9380
@moadewunmi9380 9 ай бұрын
Insane self-confidence to do what Kobe does had it’s ups and downs.
@dalesabandal9113
@dalesabandal9113 11 ай бұрын
Watching this deep dive makes me appreciate one quote so much more: “This is Dame’s team, yeah im in it but this will always be his team” -2x League MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo
@slyfox2022
@slyfox2022 11 ай бұрын
So who's was it before? Middleton's team?
@jkasdhn99
@jkasdhn99 11 ай бұрын
@@slyfox2022 Thanasis
@RD-zx6py
@RD-zx6py 10 ай бұрын
@@slyfox2022 Khris ain't Dame.
@alxfonso4924
@alxfonso4924 9 ай бұрын
haha Giannis is definetly capping here
@ckthegreat100
@ckthegreat100 8 ай бұрын
@@alxfonso4924it’s the sentiment though. He’s communicating that he doesn’t care who’s team people think it is. That’s great for chemistry
@thenumberquelve158
@thenumberquelve158 11 ай бұрын
4:49 Ask Jeeves as an NBA sponsor. What a beautiful throwback xD Secret Base, you guys do a better job of chronicling character development than any other media outlet I know. Whether it be real people or fictional people, it's always a difficult thing to truly appreciate in full, but I come away from your videos feeling enlightened every time. (And it was very nice of Kobe to inform the whole world he was a different person by cutting his hair from this point forward in his life. 🙂 Keeps things convenient from a spectator's perspective.)
@kylephillips7629
@kylephillips7629 11 ай бұрын
You guys deserve way more recognition. Y’all are so fire 🔥
@RCB122398
@RCB122398 10 ай бұрын
All this happened 20 years ago. I know this story from the ground up, but the way SB delivers this story makes me even wonder what's gonna happen next lmao. Truly superb content 🔥
@ShynyMagikarp
@ShynyMagikarp 11 ай бұрын
part 2 did not disappoint after an absolutely stellar part 1. this series just keeps getting more enthralling! thanks SB!
@holstorrsceadus1990
@holstorrsceadus1990 11 ай бұрын
Secret Base out here having me, a Celtics fan, excited for Lakers content.
@withalittlehelpfrom3
@withalittlehelpfrom3 11 ай бұрын
Man, the music is on point for this series!! Just perfectly relaxing and easing us into the human nature of the story. Thanks, SB Nation-as many of these as possible please!
@Zmaguila98
@Zmaguila98 11 ай бұрын
SB is by far the best sports channel on KZbin, honestly if this was paid content it would be worth it
@CamJames
@CamJames 11 ай бұрын
Never heard about Kobe cutting his family out of the business. I thought they hated him over his choice of fiance. This makes more sense, but I see Kobe's side of it for sure. Family are notoriously bad business partners.
@jacobesnard
@jacobesnard 11 ай бұрын
It’s murky honestly. Roland Lazenby does a great job chronicling it in Showboat. Might be the best book about Kobe Bryant and a great book overall.
@rafaelfermin4619
@rafaelfermin4619 11 ай бұрын
He did that in retaliation because of how they felt about Vanessa. Both things are true
@TheShapeshifter
@TheShapeshifter 11 ай бұрын
​@rafaelfermin4619 that's what I was thinking too. Had to be because of how they treated Vanessa
@elliemyers6435
@elliemyers6435 10 ай бұрын
@@rafaelfermin4619 yep...Kobe really had a topsy/turvy relationship with his family when he got into the league. Sadly, they weren't on the best terms when he died. But his family was wary of vanessa, wary that they were marrying so young (especially her), wary of the fact that they didn't have a pre-nup (which they REALLY should have), and Kobe wasn't trying to hear it, and that's what started the rift, which spilled over into the business aspects.
@chrilpy
@chrilpy 11 ай бұрын
Shaq was lazy and could’ve extended his prime by taking his health seriously and improving his free throw shooting, but he still made the Lakers a contender in all the seasons he played for them. Kobe’s selfishness hurt his team. He was addicted to winning but cared more about being the guy. The Lakers would’ve won so many more rings if Shaq worked on free throws and if Kobe wasn’t so obsessed with being like MJ
@MineShackle
@MineShackle 11 ай бұрын
Shaq alone didnt make them a contender.
@dropandy1453
@dropandy1453 11 ай бұрын
One could argue that if Kobe didn't want to "be like Mike" he would have never worked so hard to get so good. And as the other reply said, Shaq alone could not make LA a dynasty. Even he knew that, even if he worked on his free throws and health. Magic needed Kareem, Mike needed Pippen, etc. No one reaches that level of NBA greatness alone.
@BlackCell29.99
@BlackCell29.99 10 ай бұрын
Shaq left way too much unfulfilled as a player. As much as he achieved, he (with Kobe) could have done so much more as teammates.
@Curumno
@Curumno 11 ай бұрын
Your explanation of the Luc Longley comparison and the Bulls offence was really well done!
@travishuang6364
@travishuang6364 11 ай бұрын
Can we acknowledge how amazing that intro was? That was very well-done, almost felt like an Oscar-winning documentary coming from a KZbin video lol
@ericemanwu
@ericemanwu 11 ай бұрын
You know, where we're at, we might get a nod to the old Kobe/Ray Allen beef. Where Ray saw Kobe's near future coming and Kobe got upset because Ray knew him too well once the big brother/dog left.
@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 11 ай бұрын
not gonna touch on that beef but I do want to share one Ray thing: I found this fun little batch of quotes about Kobe's "2000 makes a day" claim that includes some eye-rolling from Ray Allen. couldn't pin down an original source for this text so I didn't include the quotes, but I love it www.basketballforum.com/threads/2-000-makes-a-day-no-wonder-hes-a-gym-rat.35691/ -seth
@DarthFlauschi
@DarthFlauschi 11 ай бұрын
I've never seen a game of basketball, but I love listening to your videos and watch these deep dives
@milktea2422
@milktea2422 11 ай бұрын
You know, I already know almost of this Kobe and Shaq beef since many other videos have talked about it, but I’m still fascinated by it each time a video of it comes out.
@eddsworldlover
@eddsworldlover 11 ай бұрын
21:54 wild how there's literally footage of this exact moment (the ring celebration where they're in the tunnel and Kobe's in the Jordan jacket) and Shaq swapped around what they said to make himself sound cooler
@Ono_M3
@Ono_M3 11 ай бұрын
Good to know that Shaq categorizes people as either sandwich eaters or salad eaters.
@mimicranch
@mimicranch 11 ай бұрын
What we're really learning is that Shaq was an early western pioneer of emoji technology
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 11 ай бұрын
Much like the 90s Bulls, Shaq & Kobe are one of the prime examples of regardless of how much you dislike or outright Hate your co-workers, as long as you can pull it together when it really matters; Results can still happen & like they say, Winning Cures All (On The Court at least)
@alexanderguerrero347
@alexanderguerrero347 11 ай бұрын
And how Phil jackson coaches winning teams
@100navat
@100navat 10 ай бұрын
90s Bulls disliked each other?
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 10 ай бұрын
@@100navat Oh yes throughout their decade of dominance, That locker room was Volatile AF, especially if you read Sam Smith's book The Jordan Rules There were many incidents but some of the main highlights include • Jordan once kicked a chair after getting just 12 shots in a game & He once destroyed a blackboard after getting ejected from a playoff game • Calling Stacy King "Doughboy" • Punching teammates Will Perdue and Steve Kerr in the face • His all night gambling trips • And forbidding teammates from passing the ball to Bill Cartwright (This part I get) Not to mention the never ending feud between Scottie Pippin and Jerry Krause
@ckthegreat100
@ckthegreat100 8 ай бұрын
@@MazeDaGr8you’re wrong for that Cartwright comment😂😂
@crepinhauser5274
@crepinhauser5274 2 ай бұрын
@@alexanderguerrero347 you mean partly by not coaching them? I'll never cease to be amazed by the fact players don't get benched nor fined when they pull stunts as stupid as refusing to pass, refusing to train, punching teammates. So different in other sports.
@henryzhao4622
@henryzhao4622 11 ай бұрын
The lesson is wait your turn. But DONT lose sight of your big goal. Just wait for the right opportunity.
@lebronshaqfaction
@lebronshaqfaction 11 ай бұрын
This is the absolute best documentary i’d ever watched about their beef. Salute!
@kcaccident
@kcaccident 11 ай бұрын
damn Luc Longley just taking strays for no reason
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 10 ай бұрын
Shaq doesn't like White players. He's been pretty clear about that
@rjmacready9828
@rjmacready9828 11 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Kobe, we love and miss you
@scottycampman9628
@scottycampman9628 11 ай бұрын
you telling me a shrimp fried this shaq daddy sandwich
@mattlang8946
@mattlang8946 11 ай бұрын
This is beyond great content. You guys do an amazing job in your research and an equally amazing job in the way you present it. Well done! Shaq & Kobe is one of the richest stories in the history of basketball.
@simonppp
@simonppp 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the greatest videos I have ever seen on KZbin
@HunterBurnett-i6b
@HunterBurnett-i6b 11 ай бұрын
Oh hell yeah I love when a reason to live drops during the work day.
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 11 ай бұрын
Shaq Daddy sandwich sounds nice….to bad i’m allergic to shrimp
@james-ty8ce
@james-ty8ce 11 ай бұрын
such a great series of videos.
@korbymarks
@korbymarks 3 ай бұрын
I am really enjoying your documentary. This is some good storytelling. I appreciate you and your hard work on this.
@AceManning18
@AceManning18 11 ай бұрын
This is so good. I know most of this already, even though I was only 11-13 when the Lakers had their 3peat, I was and am a huge basketball fan. And I read Jeff Pearlman's book 3 Ring Circus shortly after it came out. But still. The writing, the presentation, everything about this is just $$$$. Can't wait for the next part in this wonderful series. You guys do gods work. Keep it up please, and thank you.
@lualarok1262
@lualarok1262 11 ай бұрын
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever watched! Thank you 🙏🏿
@andyman2583
@andyman2583 10 ай бұрын
The fact that this content is free is almost unfathomable.
@Icarus6783
@Icarus6783 2 ай бұрын
There is something about healthy competition that brings out the best in people. These two stand as the perfect example. RIP Kobe.
@pookeded
@pookeded 10 ай бұрын
I thought it was a commercial but no, it was a shaq daddy sandwich. Sensational *Future voice*
@bigeoof1804
@bigeoof1804 11 ай бұрын
These basket vids have got me hooked I can’t wait for the next one these are phenomenal
@tomsandoval1
@tomsandoval1 Ай бұрын
The Segway from the ending of pt.1 into 2 was poetic
@robertjohn8711
@robertjohn8711 11 ай бұрын
I cannot wait for an episode on MJ vs Isaiah Thomas!!!!!
@bossman9873
@bossman9873 11 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for part 3,4,5,6,7!
@L_Train
@L_Train 9 ай бұрын
0:23 Shaq "couldn't sleep". I guess thats one way to say he was up all night partying.
@TheCoolreaper44
@TheCoolreaper44 11 ай бұрын
I love the music choice for the 2 part video. Good work
@Bismuth9
@Bismuth9 11 ай бұрын
Great choice of music!
@MrAri233
@MrAri233 11 ай бұрын
another video that's well made, educational and low key meditative and soothing.
@TheMILVSCR
@TheMILVSCR 11 ай бұрын
Damn Secret Base, you've done it again. I don't even like the Lakers (Suns fan), but you guys make such quality content that I never want to miss an upload. Can't wait for the conclusion of another great series.
@mikaeki5245
@mikaeki5245 11 ай бұрын
Just dropping a comment for the support. A+ work yet again.
@eatingyuhheard3604
@eatingyuhheard3604 11 ай бұрын
Yo this is amazing i swear
@willardweston8984
@willardweston8984 11 ай бұрын
To be regarded as the big brother, shaq was more immature than Kobe. I honestly felt like all shaq has to do was put his arms around Kobe and got the message across a lot better rather than downing Kobe to the media
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 11 ай бұрын
Shaq regrets his actions today and given how he upon being traded to Miami immediately made sure everyone knew it was Wade's team he knew even then and was just stubborn about it.
@poseidonson13
@poseidonson13 11 ай бұрын
This was a very good episode that I'll have to watch again after I eat because damn that sandwich at the start made me hungry.
@jordanford9320
@jordanford9320 11 ай бұрын
The dynamic between the two legit comes down to old school versus new school ideals Shaq being old school as in get the ball to the big man and Kobe being new school as in let the winger make the plays from the outside. Both can be right and both can be wrong. It's just a matter of honestly matchups and that's where the coach comes into play. So if you ask me this comes down to coaching and they should have used those dynamics based off of who they were playing. For example, if they are playing a team that you can expose from the three-point line and the wings you use Kobe if they're playing a team or you can exploit their big men you use Shaq and you explain to both stars why that is the case in each matchup. So this comes down to Phil Jackson being too kumbaya with his stars and not setting the tone for what they should do to win, which is the ultimate goal.
@shorewall
@shorewall 11 ай бұрын
It's not old school vs new School. MJ was a ball dominant winger. But he didn't play with Hakeem. If he did, they would play differently. Kobe was a young buck who wanted his.
@איתןשי
@איתןשי 11 ай бұрын
While I think you are 100% right, we have to remember that this was the pre-Moneyball era where no one really looked at these kinds of statistics
@TheBINIBALL
@TheBINIBALL 11 ай бұрын
@@shorewall to be fair to Kobe he put in so much work to become a rising young star. It does suck especially when you’re a Type A workaholic guy like him when you put in so much work only to get sidelined. But Shaq was also the best player in the league at the time, the reigning regular season/ Finals MVP and the triangle as it was originally created was best suited for a guy like him. It’s difficult
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 11 ай бұрын
Rewinder: 2006 Orange Bowl 3OTs Beef History: Lindros vs Flyers Organization Overlap: Greatest College Football Coach (Saban) and the Greatest NFL Coach (Belichick) coaching in the same division Untitled: Reggie Miller Untitled: Ken Griffey Junior Untitled: Jim Kelly Collapse: Early 90s Bills Untitled: Red Sox Players (particular Yaz) Prism: Steph Curry and all those mid major players Rewinder: The Catch By Willie Rewinder: Hank Aaron and Bonds breaking the respective HR record Untitled: Don Nelson
@jab1289
@jab1289 11 ай бұрын
The Early-90's Bills is a good one, but they really didn't collapse until after the Music City Miracle (1999 playoffs).
@henryzhao4622
@henryzhao4622 11 ай бұрын
All I know is Kobe with Shaq's body would have 8 rings, and Shaq with Kobe's body would be working at the liquor store round my block
@M-Cherian
@M-Cherian 11 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video. Thanks Seth.
@naheemquattlebaum2267
@naheemquattlebaum2267 11 ай бұрын
Another great video 🎉
@matthewscanlan8001
@matthewscanlan8001 11 ай бұрын
You are the best man loving the series
@michaeljamesmccabe
@michaeljamesmccabe 9 ай бұрын
People are quick to think that if they were a giant, like Shaq, they’d be better than Shaq. Because they have a better work ethic, or are more competitive, shoot free throws better, etc. But, they aren’t Shaq. And Shaq delivered a modern day three peat in LA. Being critical of a once in a lifetime super athletic giant is beyond stupid.
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 8 ай бұрын
Winning 3 straight championships is something else despite all these turmoils surrounding between them.
@TheGr8-1
@TheGr8-1 7 ай бұрын
Lucky for them they played the weakest Finals comp ever. And got gifted the worst officiated series in NBA history 😂
@JoeSmithGOAT
@JoeSmithGOAT 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheGr8-1FACTS tho. Ppl love to meatride this duo so much it's comedy 🤣
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 10 ай бұрын
As up and down and roller coaster of a season it was (until the historic playoff run) the 2000-2001 Lakers remain my all-time favorite NBA single season team ever. That team underachieved in the regular season (still won 56 games) and then won 8 straight to end the regular season before being a historic Allen Iverson game 1 NBA finals performance, away from being the only NBA team ever to SWEEP through the playoffs.
@guru_basketball_kiero
@guru_basketball_kiero 11 ай бұрын
#GuruBasketballKieroSays ahh yes the good ol days of being a Lakers fan in the early 2000s
@GenX1283
@GenX1283 11 ай бұрын
Part 3 is going to be gooood. That 2003-04 season when Shaq and Kobe split up.
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 11 ай бұрын
@21:48 encapsulates how dominant Shaq was. This picture of him dunking on all FIVE nets players is ridiculous.
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 11 ай бұрын
HOLY CRAP AN AD FOR ASK JEEVES
@josh-qj2zu
@josh-qj2zu 11 ай бұрын
oh man... next chapters gonna cover some pretty touchy stuff
@icecoldcomedian
@icecoldcomedian 11 ай бұрын
Been waiting for pt2!
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 11 ай бұрын
As much as a player Kobe was. I would have went with shaq too. NO ONE, can stop a healthy and motivated shaq.
@loganblumenberg
@loganblumenberg 11 ай бұрын
Seth, your content is awesome man! appreciate what you do
@williammoore1980
@williammoore1980 Ай бұрын
Soon as he said “The same way anyone would celebrate…” I thought, no way, Kobe probably went right back to the gym. Not even a Lakers fan, but even a casual fan knew that guy never stopped working.
@joshuasingh9419
@joshuasingh9419 11 ай бұрын
NEW EPISODE LETS GOOOOOOOO 🎉🎉🎉
@shikharshukla4832
@shikharshukla4832 11 ай бұрын
Will there be a part 3 to this?
@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 11 ай бұрын
November 7!
@shikharshukla4832
@shikharshukla4832 11 ай бұрын
@@SecretBaseSBN how many parts in total? Also, thank you for all the efforts you guys are making, absolutely love this series!
@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 11 ай бұрын
@@shikharshukla4832 3!
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the 2004 Finals
@vicedm1145
@vicedm1145 11 ай бұрын
Been such a great series
@TheGlyde18
@TheGlyde18 11 ай бұрын
Looking at this in hindsight---everything might've worked out with the 3-peat, but it is *insane* that Kobe was insisting a team with the MVP, a ring and a GOAT coach change everything for him--who was just becoming a starter.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 11 ай бұрын
"Becoming a starter" Nah that was the lockout year and Phil wasn't coach yet. It was Kobe ascending from All Star to Superstar. Kobe wanted to have his cake and eat it too when that wasn't what would result in winning, he still had legitimate criticism to give Shaq though.
@CxsualtyGaming
@CxsualtyGaming 11 ай бұрын
It isn't about that. Imagine you start a company with a friend - and he's brilliant. Probably smarter than you and more naturally gifted - yet he's not putting the hours in that you are into the company. Every time you get a chance to improve the company and yourself - you do it. While your friend lets his natural talent coast and hope everything works out in all your business meetings and dealings. Wouldn't you feel some type of way about that? Especially when you know that if he gave it his all, you guys would have one of the most successful companies of ALL TIME? I don't know about you, but that would bother me. Both had their faults, but Kobe's goal was always to become the greatest to ever lace them up. Hence his decisions were based on that - to be the greatest, he needed Shaq to be improving constantly so he could win as many rings as possible. He knew that by staying stagnant, the other teams in the league would catch up. And he was partly right.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 11 ай бұрын
@@CxsualtyGaming Excellent point.
@boi1409
@boi1409 11 ай бұрын
Kobe was still worse than Shaq tho, that’s like pippin saying he should he the shot over Micheal
@CxsualtyGaming
@CxsualtyGaming 11 ай бұрын
@@boi1409 1. Comparing Scottie to Kobe Bryant is an insult and not even close to the skill levels of Shaq and Kobe 2. Regardless of who is better, that has no relevance on the attitude one should take toward building a team. If you're a leader (which Shaq wanted to be), you need to continue to try to improve to lead the team at all times and not take "rest" on company time like Shaq would. 3. Shaq would get fat all off season and rely on Kobe to carry him for the first half of the season. Do you find that reasonable?
@nbarealtalker
@nbarealtalker 11 ай бұрын
Kobe was such a mental assassin. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of this drama was a ploy to keep his opponents off balance. In interviews, Kobe would talk about strategizing defence to double team a guy who just signed a big contract and deny the guy in a contract year in order to cause internal turmoil on the opposing team. Dude literally might’ve been more mental than Jordan 4real.
@Fmadude
@Fmadude 11 ай бұрын
this series is awesome, thank u
@bransen2099
@bransen2099 11 ай бұрын
As a kid growing up watching Shaq and Kobe, I didn’t know all of this was happening behind the scenes and I absolutely love this. Can’t wait for the next part
@alexgrissom3513
@alexgrissom3513 11 ай бұрын
You forgot about the 2003 incident in Colorado
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 10 ай бұрын
Funny how after he passed away, his rape charge was magically forgotten.
@eugenejr-hc1jd
@eugenejr-hc1jd 11 ай бұрын
Narration on point like a movie 🍿
@stizanley3987
@stizanley3987 11 ай бұрын
Cant wait for next episode
@ShadowThe771
@ShadowThe771 11 ай бұрын
Once the Lakers lost against the Spurs in 03, that’s where everything fell apart. Once someone tastes success for a period of time, they forget what it’s like to taste failure. And it’s often said that when you don’t taste failure for a long time, you can learn from your mistakes and try better next time, or you’ll spiral down and never recover.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 11 ай бұрын
With how Shaq and Kobe behaved then even if Horry hit that shot and we went on to fourpeat I doubt Shaq and Kobe last any longer as a duo. By the 04 season's end Shaq wasn't the same player as he was during his MVP season and wanted to get paid so Dr.Buss traded him away since he wasn't viewed as worth that much money and Dr.Buss made the correct call.
@kapowjam3462
@kapowjam3462 11 ай бұрын
These are amazing. 🔥
@boblangford5514
@boblangford5514 2 ай бұрын
I feel like this video really glossed over the ‘02-‘03 season. There were lots of problems. Shaq delayed his offseason rehab saying, “I got hurt on company time. I’ll heel on company time.” Kobe during the preseason, knowing that Shaq would be missing the first 10-15 games of the season was mouthing off to the media saying that they would now see that he could win without Shaq. However, the Lakers started 3-9 without Shaq, and after every loss, Kobe was blaming his teammates constantly. Shaq came back, and the wins improved, but things weren’t perfect, with both players, once again, trash-talking each other through the media. It’s really weird that none of this was addressed, when it was a huge reason they didn’t win a championship in ‘03.
@jamondwilliams9076
@jamondwilliams9076 10 ай бұрын
Their last ring Kobe was just 24 and shaq was 30… If Shaq would’ve just dedicated himself more and the personalities/egos meshed, I can confidently say they win at minimum 3 more rings together. And Kobe would’ve took over that throne in the 2nd run getting his Finals MVPs. What could’ve been…
@Ray-c1r
@Ray-c1r 7 ай бұрын
The Black Baywatch chick! 😆 Sure shaq had a shaq daddy there 😆
@KobeKid248
@KobeKid248 10 ай бұрын
Mamba Forever 💜💛
@dylanreeder6652
@dylanreeder6652 11 ай бұрын
That’s ask Jeeves logo looks wild on that lakers press background behind fisher. 🤣
@lakersrdbest
@lakersrdbest 11 ай бұрын
Please tell us there will be a part 3
@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 11 ай бұрын
there will be a part 3, the final part. tuesday 11/7
@ShoeAlmighty
@ShoeAlmighty 7 ай бұрын
Seth and secret base are the goated combo. these episodes are amazing, absolutely fantastic
@golden-sun
@golden-sun 10 ай бұрын
13:40 MIKE WITH THE 360 NO SCOPE
@ayoaight
@ayoaight 11 ай бұрын
Best duo in my book Kareem with the skyhook Magic with the no look Was leaving ‘em so shook. It is a team game The crown’s on King James Jack Nicholson courtside Oooh look the score’s tied. Wham! Don’t give a damn punk Kobe down the middle, throw to Shaq... SLAM DUNK! The story for me Is Horry for three 2, 1, ANNHH!
@joshuabryant8504
@joshuabryant8504 11 ай бұрын
Fire
@elijahruderman
@elijahruderman 11 ай бұрын
If LeBron’s there than AD should be as well
@stepsinpairs
@stepsinpairs 10 ай бұрын
#10 in the still @20:16 😆looks like a child wandered onto the court in the middle of a game.
@coleyancey8044
@coleyancey8044 11 ай бұрын
You all are the best. Few come close.
@daniels8112
@daniels8112 11 ай бұрын
How do I give you guys money
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