The World of Myst (Part 1) - The Great D'ni Civilization - Complete Chronologies

[@crimocklyte4964]

THIS VIDEO IS OUTDATED. I HAVE A NEW VERSION OF THE FULL MYST SAGA AS A COLLECTED VIDEO, CHECK OUT BELOW :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2q6houif8-NnMU

[@crimocklyte4964]

Thanks for checking out the video! Biggest correction is obviously my pronunciation of D'ni :( I know its wrong in this part, just how I grew up saying it and it was too late into production for me to correct, will be working to correct it in the future tho!

[@ConcordeTH]

it's all good...at least you didn't say Duck Knee XD

[@nanascho3]

All good -- You had the informal pronunciation right at 4:25 but with this amazingly detailed video I'm sure you'll want the formal one; I'm bookmarking this so my niece and nephew can learn about it growing up.

[@ASO7467]

I've been saying it that way for so many years I still have to correct myself.

[@WobblesandBean]

@@ConcordeTH Hey. You got a problem with duck knees?

[@WobblesandBean]

Tbh it's a very unusual, awkward-looking word and not in any real language, so I think it's up to interpretation how it's pronounced 😊

[@crimocklyte4964]

Been also getting a lot of feedback towards the volume for this video. Definitely my bad! First time making a video like this and I was afraid to raise the volume control past what I use to edit (which is fairly loud when editing, but quiet after rendering) KZbin unfortunately removed anyway to alter volume after uploading, but if they ever put it back y'all know the first thing I'm going to do! In the meantime, when the entire series is completed I will be uploading a full version of the Myst Saga, with all parts, at a uniform HIGHER volume. So look forward to that!

[@WobblesandBean]

Unfortunately it's not just the volume... please, please I am begging you, get s pop filter and don't press your lips right up to the mic like you clearly are for this video. I can hear every single disgusting, wet, squelchy, smacky mouth sound coming from you, and it's making it extremely difficult to tolerate watching this. I really want to, I want to hear this stuff so bad, but I just can't 😭

[@talos.fractal_author]

Well produced and narrated. I recently "redisovered" Riven in my shelf. As a child i only watched the grownups clicking through those strange Island setting. Now i played the Game -- and it feels like wandering trough old ruins. I remembered some of the Places (The temple and the gateroom for instance), but not much else. So i was able to experience the whole story as if it was completly new to me. Fantastic Storytelling through environment, atmospheric Soundtrack. Without a doubt one of the best Computer-Games i've ever played.

[@Acrosurge]

Nice work collecting the obscure branches of lore for this video. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series.

[@Artoveli]

What a great video! I'd never sat down and read up on the Kings, so aside from a few names (like Ri'Nerif, Kedri and Kerath), I didn't know any of these stories. Very well researched! And man, I hate it when you go through your whole life pronouncing a name one way only to discover it's wrong... Don't sweat it, I think we've all been there! XD

[@robinsmith3469]

Awesome job. Looked for something like this for a long time. So glad I found it.

[@thevoteman]

This is awesome, I'm now subscribed. I can't wait to see more lore breakdowns like this

[@Nodux359]

What a great gaming series. So nice to see it´s not forgotten! Good video!

[@CodeRed001]

Good stuff. I'm playing uru live for the first time right now. I've played the offline versions and wanted to see all the content I missed.

[@briansgamesandanime]

Very informative. I have read all three of the published books so I'm guessing where you left off is where Ti'ana comes in. I'm glad I finally know the thousands of years of history that I didn't know I was missing.

[@dvlogs8366]

Just because of my research i found a trilogy of Myst books basically the story of Atrus, Anna, Gehn and Catherine is increduble i fully recomend that book

[@michaelpatrick1121]

Amazing video, very underrated

[@RussellRadio]

Really great video. Thank you for making this. Your voice work is really good.

[@DavidGreen_au]

Interesting video. I wasn't aware of the scope of back-story that was available.

[@Dogeathotdog1]

Excellent work

[@grunner7557]

"An explosion on the age of Meanas." I have to question how many takes that took to say with a straight face.

[@guntherthequizmaster9515]

That is one of the great mysteries of life. - Grandpa Longneck, The Land Before Time VI: The Secret of Saurus Rock (1998)

[@anonymousperson420]

Short-lived? Uru is still online.

[@matthewdaub]

So Is wondering around for 20 minutes trying to figure out what to do "accessable game" now lol. Great video.

[@TNJX]

Excellent. Will share and post more once fully watched

[@stclairstclair]

I still have my PS2 CD, The game is written in cursive and on my old standard tv I couldn't read it! It was like trying to read my grandmothers old recipes, Ive been thinking about playing it but I have no CRT's and assume it will be even harder to read on a modern set. Did anyone else have a tough time reading the cursive?

[@Dachusblot]

About the language used to make the books: I was always under the impression that the D'ni used a different writing system for the books than they did for every day writing. The D'ni language we see in the games would thus most likely be a simplified version of the writing system they used for the Art. However... I can't remember where exactly I got this idea from, so I'm not sure. Maybe someone else can confirm?

[@cailco100]

It's not that they have two different writing systems for written and The art. It's that when they use The art they use a special type of book and ink that allow the Descriptive book to link to an age. It's like using a telephone number to contact someone. My headcanon for why two descriptive books written in the same way but cannot connect to the same age is down to the handwriting as well as the infinite number of age out there. As no matter how careful you write you will never pull or push the pen in the same way as you did the first time. you'd get close but never perfect. On the wiki for D'ni is this link (dni.fandom.com/wiki/The_Skill) it gives a pretty good explanation of the skill. The reason making changes to an already connect age is bad is because you are pulling and ripping or in some cases quite literally twisting something that wasn't meant to be apart of the age into it. it's also why Atrus and Catherin where so careful with any changes they made

[@Dachusblot]

@@cailco100 I'm pretty sure they used a special writing system in addition to the special paper and ink? I swear that's actually confirmed somewhere in the series, but I can't for the life of me remember where. Maybe one of the novels? About never being able to duplicate a Descriptive Book: I actually think that can be explained entirely by the infinite multiverse theory, and the limitations of writing. Imagine you wrote a Descriptive Book of an age that was super detailed, and then you somehow managed to duplicate that book perfectly, even down to the exact angles and pressure of the pen strokes. Even then it wouldn't take you to the same age, because there's no way you can possibly account for every possible detail of the age in your description. If you tried to write a duplicate of Riven, for instance, you couldn't account for the exact placement of every single blade of grass, or every single insect, or every single person, etc. There will always be some gaps in your description no matter what. So a perfect duplicate of Riven's descriptive book would likely link you to a world that was really similar to Riven, but still not the same world.

[@cailco100]

@@Dachusblot I've never managed to get any of the novels even though I really want to. I know in Myst 4 you can see Atrus teaching Yeesha how to write an age and you can see the writing in the book and it looks to be the same as their written langauge. You'd have to look through Dilandau3000 playlist of Myst 4 to see the book. I know he looks at it. The not being able to link the same descriptive book could be a mixture of the two. as if you do the latter and make a perfect description of the age. well, 1 that book is going to be effing massive and 2 I think your hand might fall off. That or it could be down to the paper and the ink used as you'll never get the same ink or paper used the first time round even if you used anything leftover as it would have aged more or collected something the first lot didn't have. Even still I just love the lore of the D'ni and it sucks that uru online is only sort of being maintained. Cannot wait for their new game firmament to come out

[@Dachusblot]

@@cailco100 The novels are great! Definitely read them if you get a chance. Book of Atrus is the best one. Book of Ti'ana has some issues with the writing and pacing in my opinion, but the plot is good and it has some amazing lore stuff too. Book of D'ni is kind of a mess, tbh, but still worth reading if you're a Myst fan. ☺

[@cailco100]

@@Dachusblot going to have to keep an eye out for them then

[@santiagoloane9376]

man what a dope vid

[@sitdownstar]

I wanted to watch this, but the volume issue is still here 15 months later. It would be fairly trivial to re-render, especially since your pinned comment suggests you intended to put the entire series forward as a single video. As it stands, passing because I would have to jack my volume so ridiculously high that any alert notification sounds on my computer would not only deafen me, but also probably people in the neighboring states.

[@crimocklyte4964]

Hey there First, thanks for being patient. This has been lingering over my head for awhile and I've been distracting by life stuff and other projects I've wanted to do in the meantime Second, I've finally gotten around to working on this. The trouble is I not only wanted to fix the audio, but some other small mistakes which require more editing. Good news is I hope to have the remaster up by the end of the month :) Thanks again for showing interest in the project, and I hope you stop by again in the future

[@archiewright5056]

Nice, I found out a lot that I did not know, very enlightening..

[@samuelkuhn4067]

Myst is more of a multiverse than a universe

[@Michaeluj]

Very impressive!

[@negrotaku6299]

Great video, but why are you pronouncing D’ni like “deny”? It’s pronounced like “dunny” in all the games

[@NearZone]

Great series, love hearing about a lore that isn't all about big armies and wars (which are still cool).

[@ConcordeTH]

So about the info on Linking/Descrptive books can't link with you when linking to another Age which I have seen throughout the series except for Relto. I'm intrigued to find out how Yeesha changed this when creating Relto.

[@crimocklyte4964]

Relto is....weird It will be brought up in regards to Yeesha's abilities, but there was unfortunately a bit of retconning with regards to those linking books and what the player could do

[@raingram]

Yeesha learned from basically every different method of The Art. The Bahro, Master D'ni Writers, Her Father, Her Mother, Trial-and-Error. Each version of The Art had its own strengths and weaknesses, but ultimately they were the same thing. The Bahro could link-at-will and make subtle changes to an age (like making it rain, or heating it up). Atrus could make changes to an already-written descriptive book, and write artificial structures. Katran could write fantastical worlds that even amazed Atrus. The Writers of D'ni had centuries to millennia of experience with The Art and knew how to write the most complex and stable worlds. It stands to reason that with all this experience at her disposal she'd try to combine all this understanding and make discoveries of her own. (I'd love to see her journals from when she's figuring all this out!) Relto Pages seem to be a combination of something like the Bahro glyphs we see with Myst V's slates, her knowledge of book-making and the ink, and the ability to change an age like the bahro and Atrus could. The Relto Book's ability to link inside it's own age probably stems from learning to link-at-will from the bahro (her tatoo and the hand markings on the Bahro could be something to do with this, and the relto book has her mark in it.) I've never seen anything she's done as particularly magical or unexplained, she's simply unburdened by D'ni culture and free to learn as much as possible for herself.

[@ericmikesell5252]

This is soooo deep

[@Jobboman27]

myst is a fun game

[@raingram]

At 9:38, a nice way of putting that rule I've heard is "Whatever goes with you when you take a step, will also go with you when you link." Also, isn't it pronounced "D-nee"? (You could also say "dunny", but that means toilet in Australia) You also tend to put a lot of stress on the final syllable of D'ni words. I don't know if that's how they're actually said, but it might be more open to newcomers if the stress was based on English words.

[@TNJX]

The final syllable sress is correct for most of those. Anyway English speakers from England dont tend to stress the first syllable, or there is equal stress on each.

[@raingram]

@@TNJX OK, I'm just saying that it sounds.. off. The stress may be correct but it's off putting.

[@DavidGreen_au]

As much as I like the mechanics of the Descriptive and Linking books, what didn't make sense is how altering a descriptive book could adjust an Age, when it should switch to an alternative Age. If the Descriptive Book "creates" an Age, the alterations effecting said Age would make sense.

[@TNJX]

You seem to be saying the initial link to D'ni by Ailesh was on the surface of Earth - I thought that the first link was into the Caverns?

[@crimocklyte4964]

Hmm, interesting I'll definitely take a look, I do plan on making an addendum video with small corrections or discrepancies so keep an eye out!

[@TNJX]

@@crimocklyte4964 Yeah as I understand it, having read all the novels, they linked into the cavern and then were drilling towards the surface as a sort of scientific expedition, with no knowledge except guesses, of what would be on the surface. Eventually the great shaft was created.

[@praestant8]

D'ni is pronounced duh nee not duhn eye.

[@DavidGreen_au]

That may well be the case, but I prefer the latter, because the former is a colloquial word for "Toilet".

[@BrandonTwede]

Great video! Although you did get the book covers mixed up for the Book of Ti'ana and the Book of D'ni.

[@wearecoterminous]

i can't even watch this because it's the quietest video on the entire internet and I literally have my volume all the way up and can barely hear it over my fan. Do people just not bother to check audio levels and compare them to other things? I really want to watch this but i just don't get to.

[@fontunetheteller410]

How can an age be rewritten and the inhabitants experience the change? Wouldn't rewriting an age simply create a connection to a very similar but different age?

[@gidelix]

The D'ni text at 7:00 is upside down ;)

[@gregorygherkins1884]

I prefer pronouncing D'ni as "de-ny" rather than "dunny" as that is Australian slang for a toilet. The former sounds classier than something you poop into. "The dunny was originally any outside toilet. In cities and towns the pan-type was emptied by the dunny man , who came round regularly with his dunny cart . Dunny can now be used for any toilet. The word comes from British dialect dunnekin meaning an 'earth closet, (outside) privy' from dung + ken 'house'. First recorded in the 1930s but dunnekin is attested in Australian sources from the 1840s." slll.cass.anu.edu.au/centres/andc/meanings-origins/d

[@luckduvell]

The video is very quiet

[@orvillekidder9901]

The D'ni text was upside down.

[@jintarokensei3308]

The valkyrie chick had a nice voice. A pity she tapped out On topic: sounds like the D'ni were programmers and when a world bugs out it breaks. Conclusion: every game in the world is an Age...of Empires trolololo

[@MplsIMA]

Dat looks like Chuck Carter... 😁

[@ogioblue]

I'll construct your great shaft.

[@A2goddess]

So dni fell due to pride?

[@8polyglot]

Yahvo = Yahweh

[@benberry1165]

yes Ri'Neref was a guild master, however the establishing of the 18 guilds was not his doing, but by the last king of D'ni, Kerath, who was the one who made the 18 guilds of D'ni, not Ri'Neref.

[@klondikepete4279]

Wrong. "By the year 100 DE Ri'neref had directed the re-creation of the 18 Major Guilds. The Guilds were dedicated to Yahvo on 'The Day of the Circle', a celebration not only of the completion of the Major Guilds, which Ri'neref believed were 'healthier' than those that existed in Garternay. 'Guilds that have been established to please Yahvo and not themselves...' Ri'neref said." - DRC's Ri'neref notebook, Uru Kerath passed ultimate D'ni power to the Guilds, but they had been in D'ni for almost 7,000 years by then.

[@jamesderosa2041]

Too quiet!

[@starrieyedGirl]

I had the game back in the day but did not like it because I could not understand what was going on or what I was supposed to do.

[@klondikepete4279]

Git gud.

[@johnny_eth]

Making a whole video about the Dni to then mispronounce their name :p

[@roracle]

Why do you keep saying "duh nai"? It's "duh knee"!

[@Caldoric]

It's pronounced "Duh-nee," not "deny"! Yeesh.

[@baysideharpy8350]

The “vocal fry” narration is VERY annoying.