The World's First CVVD Engine - Genius!

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@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын
*UPDATE!* There was another engine which had variable valve duration (Rover, 1995). I asked Hyundai about this, and from one of their presentations: "Such method, which allows change in valve actuation by altering the rotational speed of cam, is thought to be devised by Mitchell [2, 3]. The Rover first launched the engine to the market in 1995 [4]. The Rover’s VVC (Variable Valve Control) system was applied to 1.8L inline 4-cylinder engine in order to change the intake valve’s timing and duration. VVC system requires four camshafts to drive the intake valve; two of the camshafts are driven by timing belt at the front of the engine, while the other two is driven at the rear of the engine by the exhaust camshaft. Because of such feature, VVC system cannot be used with CVVT simultaneously, impeding the independent control of the valve opening and closing timing." So in this case, the "world first" is the fact that it is the first production engine to combine CVVT with CVVD, as the Rover mechanism did not allow for variable timing. Thanks for commenting about the Rover engine - fascinating to learn about!
@plasma081
@plasma081 4 жыл бұрын
The Patent US8443774 this in the United States Patent and a PCT from 2005.... It allows Variable Valve Timing and vary partial speed of the cam combining both functions at the same time.... In the scope of this Patent literaly say: " The purpose of the device is to enable the opening and closing time AND Duration of the valves to be varied by varying the position and partíal speed of the camshaft in relation to the crankshaft. " It is the first device to combine CVVT with CVVD.
@clv603
@clv603 4 жыл бұрын
@@plasma081 "first production engine"
@plasma081
@plasma081 4 жыл бұрын
@@clv603 It said: " World's First CVVD Engine"
@clv603
@clv603 4 жыл бұрын
@@plasma081 please accept this gold star for your achievement in arguing within youtube comment sections. No doubt, you have earned many before. He corrected the error to explain once again that it is the "first production engine" using this technology in relation to the context of the video (which combines CVVT and CVVD). But of course you probably knew that already.
@BiggestNizzy
@BiggestNizzy 4 жыл бұрын
From Memory the rover VVC system was taken from an expired piper cams patent. Having driven a car with it I prefer it to Honda's VTEC system as you get a smoother power delivery throughout the rev range rather than that abrupt power change.
@1983ponyboy
@1983ponyboy 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hyundai technician,I can say that by far this has been the best explanation of how this system works, even surpassing that of the manufacturer training module. Kudos to you sir
@PanduAsli
@PanduAsli 2 жыл бұрын
That's why they sent everything from animation to mockup, because this is free real estate
@Mr_Meowingtons
@Mr_Meowingtons 2 жыл бұрын
YAY more stuff to brake!
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Meowingtons .. and more stuff to break as well.
@Rancejunge
@Rancejunge 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Meowingtons What can go wrong will go wrong LOL...........how many thousand dollars will this take to repair when they learn about its durability? 😉
@jimmycricket5366
@jimmycricket5366 2 жыл бұрын
Mechanical is way more reliable than electric, anyday of the week.
@richdelgado3405
@richdelgado3405 4 жыл бұрын
My old Hyundai actually had CVVD: Continuously Variable Valve Destruction. Of course, this was because the timing belt broke, but still...pretty impressive.
@martinfisker7438
@martinfisker7438 4 жыл бұрын
I had that system on my Renault megane aswell. It was the old 8 valve engine, and cost me pennies to repair. Honestly it cost me more in oil to flush (because i left it without the head on over my summer holidays), than it did in parts
@StoneCoolds
@StoneCoolds 4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai, the worst or nothing
@More_OhSo
@More_OhSo 4 жыл бұрын
Now that feature is included in the upper trim levels. We had to pay extra. These damn kids don't know the struggle.
@richdelgado3405
@richdelgado3405 4 жыл бұрын
@@More_OhSo The struggle is real.
@USDEHDFinalProject
@USDEHDFinalProject 4 жыл бұрын
:D
@joshlong1397
@joshlong1397 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how clarkson described the turbo: "exhausts gases go in, witchcraft happens, and you go faster."
@wyndhamcoffman8961
@wyndhamcoffman8961 4 жыл бұрын
What is to explain with a turbo? Exhaust gas leaves the engine under pressure, and the turbine extracts the energy from this pressure. The hard part is having to hook up the ground cart, or diverting air pressure from the APU; for the actual turbine spinup.
@killakam123321
@killakam123321 4 жыл бұрын
@@wyndhamcoffman8961 r/woosh
@johnnybraccia452
@johnnybraccia452 4 жыл бұрын
clearly you weren't paying attention.
@MilesPrower1992
@MilesPrower1992 4 жыл бұрын
What happened in this reply section? I can't make any sense of it
@android175
@android175 4 жыл бұрын
How?
@rylian21
@rylian21 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty ingenious bit of mechanical engineering. Alright, Hyundai, I'm impressed.
@petenanna
@petenanna 2 жыл бұрын
Whats terrific is not just the idea but that Hyundai actually let the idea run through development and will produce it. I imagine its all about the production costs. In South Korea they can produce it economically while here in the USA maybe not
@Lameducks
@Lameducks 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea but this seems like an expensive repair that will likely be a common wear item. More moving parts usually means more problems.
@Mr.monke_222
@Mr.monke_222 2 жыл бұрын
Its all about the engineers the brought over from BMW, AUDI Porsche and VW. There maybe a few' former mercedes personell.
@jarvislarson6864
@jarvislarson6864 Жыл бұрын
Hold applause for continuous reliability after years of use and miles under its belt.....
@Xixu.co.6
@Xixu.co.6 Жыл бұрын
@@jarvislarson6864 seen plenty of these engines with high 100k miles at this point and no issues. They’ve been out for a while now. It really seems to be a trouble free system
@mog7501
@mog7501 4 жыл бұрын
Who's here after James May called Jason "a clever bloke." Congrats mate, you deserved to be praised by one of the world's best!
@callumhardy5098
@callumhardy5098 4 жыл бұрын
Mo G Yea
@Spartan_Jackal
@Spartan_Jackal 4 жыл бұрын
where was this? I need the video lol
@spectrumofreality
@spectrumofreality 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao! This guy is a moron!
@tomothybahamothy
@tomothybahamothy 4 жыл бұрын
@@spectrumofreality no u
@yahtadi5152
@yahtadi5152 4 жыл бұрын
I need to see that video mate
@curtiskemmerle8870
@curtiskemmerle8870 4 жыл бұрын
I am not an auto mechanic but I do understand the basics. This presentation is so well done that I picked up the concept and theory-of-operation on my first run through the video. I didn't have to pause/rewind/re-view any portion of it. Cu-do's to Jason for such a well done presentation!
@LochyP
@LochyP 3 жыл бұрын
*Kudos By the way
@Robo-xk4jm
@Robo-xk4jm 3 жыл бұрын
he does repeat some stuff more then necessary
@marktatum2592
@marktatum2592 2 жыл бұрын
"Cu-Do's"? You had better check your local city and state regulations. 🤣
@_K_W
@_K_W 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a test at the end?
@chrisborns5972
@chrisborns5972 3 жыл бұрын
"The BEST part is no part" words are engineers should strive to live by.
@absolutezero6423
@absolutezero6423 3 жыл бұрын
if I remember correctly Space X has said something to that effect.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 3 жыл бұрын
Then you have nothing. 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️
@chrisborns5972
@chrisborns5972 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnLee-db9zt ICE of for toys, and the consolidation of multiple parts to serve several functions is how "genius technologies" such as these have become waisted effort to cling to life. 🤦🏽‍♀️ ICE is a collective of complexity to do a job at staggeringly low efficiency and badly at that. No one rides horses to work anymore this will be like that in a fraction of the time.🐴🤣 So get 'em, cowpoke.
@absolutezero6423
@absolutezero6423 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnLee-db9zt The point is more parts more problems. If you can make something that does the same thing with less parts it is less likely to break down wasting time and resources.
@JohnLee-db9zt
@JohnLee-db9zt 3 жыл бұрын
@@absolutezero6423 Obviously, no one has come up with economical CVVD/VT with less parts. So fail to see your point which seems useless.
@FOXTR0T1
@FOXTR0T1 4 жыл бұрын
That’s really a genius design. I can imagine the pride those engineers feel knowing they’ve created something so complex yet entirely mechanical.
@josiahr1375
@josiahr1375 4 жыл бұрын
They just copied and superimposed orbital paths...
@georgerosebush9754
@georgerosebush9754 4 жыл бұрын
@@josiahr1375 JUST
@970357ers
@970357ers 4 жыл бұрын
Except, it relies on an electronic actuator to drive it...
@monstercolorfunco4391
@monstercolorfunco4391 4 жыл бұрын
Does that look more reliable that a bugatti-beating drivetrain with 2 moving parts which can do 1 million miles? That motor will get dust sprayed on it up and down town.
@TheLtVoss
@TheLtVoss 4 жыл бұрын
@Teslamoanials Derivedit is possible to build a centrifugal control unit which can drive a no linear output it not es easy but only without the Edison cycle option in low engine load scenario a proper ecu can hadel such a thing better
@phillm156
@phillm156 4 жыл бұрын
Whew... I’m glad there wasn’t a quiz at the end!
@randomvideosn0where
@randomvideosn0where 4 жыл бұрын
Luckily you can replay the video.
@rogerwhittle2078
@rogerwhittle2078 4 жыл бұрын
Phill M156. Err......didn't BMW do something similar more than ten years ago annnnndddd........haven't steam locomotives been doing the same thing since forever? Just askin'.
@phillm156
@phillm156 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Whittle don’t know about steam engines but Bmw Vanos is timing and duration, not all three. Honda’s was lift & timing. Their high lift cam lobe was engaged by a pin at 5k rpm, no variability. Honda’s was the most fun, it was like having another engine from 5k-8k rpm.
@rogerwhittle2078
@rogerwhittle2078 4 жыл бұрын
@@phillm156 Obviously, there is no direct comparison between steam and any two or four cycle IC engine, but their valve gears - there are many different types - control the point in the rotation of the driving wheels that steam is admitted and the length of time over which it is admitted. This controls the amount of steam used each cycle and thus, economy. To a great extent, it also controls the amount of power produced. I was being a bit facetious, but they really have been doing it since before Stevenson's 'Rocket'!
@VeganV5912
@VeganV5912 4 жыл бұрын
~?. The planet is dying 🚗💨🤯. Electric ⚡️🚗🚲🛴🚶‍♂️🚶‍♀️. You don’t want to do it with you 👽🔪⛓☹️/😵🔴💩🦠🍖🛒👽. Totally hypocritical !!!! Innocent animal bludgeoned to death, for a hamburger 😒🦠🍔 that is a coward !! Are used to be a coward 😞🦠🍔, but now I’m vegan ✅❤️😬💪, I don’t murder the animals, I don’t torture the animals, I don’t massacre the animals. ✅👍.
@leighgray4928
@leighgray4928 4 жыл бұрын
Can i just take a minute to appreciate how well this has been described in perfect detail 👌
@181auto3
@181auto3 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually amazing, not the variable duration. But the fact that the heat treating processes for these parts has finally been dialed in to such accuracy and repeatability that they are able to mass produce.
@christopheraugustine5816
@christopheraugustine5816 2 жыл бұрын
Here's one to process engineers - the so often forgotten appendage!
@gedavids84
@gedavids84 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never thought I'd see something like this as a mechanical system. I just assumed everything would be like free valve in 20-30 years.
@berjerk3425
@berjerk3425 4 жыл бұрын
2 strokes are valves free, not equivalent but way more simple xD
@gedavids84
@gedavids84 4 жыл бұрын
@@berjerk3425 Oh wow, it just occured to me that you could setup a free valve engine to switch to a 2 stroke cycle for power and back to 4 stroke for cruising.
@Xmoto16
@Xmoto16 4 жыл бұрын
@@gedavids84 2 strokes cylinder heads are different
@grekiki
@grekiki 4 жыл бұрын
@@gedavids84 Yeah not going to work :)
@danigoncalves3043
@danigoncalves3043 4 жыл бұрын
@@gedavids84 new koenigsegg gemera can do that
@carlitoxb110
@carlitoxb110 4 жыл бұрын
it's so beautiful to see a Mechanical advance in 2020, nowadays everything is digital and electronic
@FILTHY-YOGURT
@FILTHY-YOGURT 4 жыл бұрын
Rover did this 20years ago nothing new
@_Nobody_Special
@_Nobody_Special 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasbacon In my car the trunk opens when you hit a bump in the road lol.
@regal_7877
@regal_7877 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more. And this is coming from an Electical & Electronic engineer. Elegant mechanical design just as important, if not more important than just having everything electronically controlled
@TheDeGhoul
@TheDeGhoul 4 жыл бұрын
So true, thanks for pointing that out. In this electronic, information age people forget that mechanical design is still important. Sure some mechanical systems don't translate to an electronic system, but until we are 100% electric we will need mechanical improvements to move us forward. Not to mention there is something very beautiful about a fully mechanical system such as this. All the moving components make my head hurt😜
@regal_7877
@regal_7877 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDeGhoul You and me both brother
@jackdeniston9326
@jackdeniston9326 4 жыл бұрын
Modern metallurgy. Making old ideas actually possible
@yslee1401
@yslee1401 4 жыл бұрын
Buck Deniston one thing the Japanese excel in is material engineering. We see many plastic parts in a Toyota (for eg) that is still sturdy after 10 years/300,000 miles. However on a BMW (for eg), those plastic parts would have been crispy and flakes off after 4 years of use
@TheJacobshapiro
@TheJacobshapiro 4 жыл бұрын
Yi Su LEE right. Knowing the right material to use is a huge and often overlooked aspect of what makes a car reliable.
@johncrowley5612
@johncrowley5612 4 жыл бұрын
@@yslee1401 It appears that the Koreans are also exceptional materials scientists.
@andrewsnow7386
@andrewsnow7386 4 жыл бұрын
Modern metallurgy and modern high precision machining. Based on what he said at 11:07, it sounds like even with precision machining they might be matching parts to get the perfect fit. If they are doing that, then the desired clearance range must be really small.
@SangheiliSpecOp
@SangheiliSpecOp 4 жыл бұрын
@@yslee1401 manufacturers might do that on purpose, or in willful ignorance just to save some cash unfortunately
@mightymystery9204
@mightymystery9204 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a well-rehearsed lecture. That confident, enthusiastic, non-redundant explanation ensures that comprehension lag coincides nicely with attention-span interruption: the brain shifts from listening to understanding, hits eureka, then enthusiastically shifts to listening again. That actually parallels the intake/exhaust valve cycles. I have heard lectures where a person spoke without rehearsal, and either his technical knowledge outpaced the comprehension delay of the audience, or his tedium got outstripped by attention span. You have most excellently explained in such a way that an engineer would not get bored, and a non engineer would not be overwhelmed.
@codyhatch4607
@codyhatch4607 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine trump giving this lecture?
@evanray8413
@evanray8413 2 жыл бұрын
@@codyhatch4607 Hahaha. Your TDS is showing.
@philipershler420
@philipershler420 Жыл бұрын
@@codyhatch4607 Oh, that’s just plain mean 😜
@kwizzy902
@kwizzy902 4 жыл бұрын
"Awh man, what went wrong with your motor?" "I spun a lobe."
@Asofe17
@Asofe17 4 жыл бұрын
:DDD
@Broyourenglishisgood
@Broyourenglishisgood 4 жыл бұрын
240sx guys are now trying to find something other than bearings to spin
@zim777
@zim777 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha this is exactly what I thought would happen, hey I have been wrong before and Hyundai has improved over the years but this seems like it will either be nice or a disaster, good on them though for taking the risk
@edmundbeaulieu2389
@edmundbeaulieu2389 4 жыл бұрын
No big deal GMs do that all the time, except they stay spun.
@NeonAstralOfficial
@NeonAstralOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@Broyourenglishisgood haha w/e bro ;D
@Zeigren
@Zeigren 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad how honest they were with those percentages, no crazy numbers
@ericsmith6311
@ericsmith6311 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geth270 Its really hard to improve combustion engines further from what we already have. That's why a lot of companies are looking into EVs for more powerful vehicles.
@carlitoxb110
@carlitoxb110 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geth270 no, it's not, it's hard to evolve what is a pretty mature technology I think its pretty remarkable
@TononiaWorld
@TononiaWorld 4 жыл бұрын
@@Geth270 My best guess is it took that long due to engine stress and torque the part needs to endure, plus margins of error and tolerance and a million data points and testing (plus the scientific method for each revision)
@TononiaWorld
@TononiaWorld 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericsmith6311 I actually think combustion engines can be improved quite a bit more, I would not be surprised to see a car get 100mpg in flat highways at some point.
@mr2ben
@mr2ben 4 жыл бұрын
If I could spend $95 instead of $100 every time filled up with fuel. I think I'd be pretty happy with that!
@freedomofmotion
@freedomofmotion 4 жыл бұрын
Had my step son leaning over watching this with me and saying " I'm not really interested in this, but it's interesting!" He's 12, maybe catching the bug :)
@ryanbernard6550
@ryanbernard6550 4 жыл бұрын
Get him something he can emotionally appreciate like a nitro RC car or a small 2 stroke dirtbike and figure out how to fix them together.
@Justaguynamedcam
@Justaguynamedcam 4 жыл бұрын
^
@CreatorCade
@CreatorCade 4 жыл бұрын
Well it is a little too technical for a 12 year old to wrap his brain around. When I was his age I liked older cars not because they were fast but because they looked cool.
@lakeshorerides
@lakeshorerides 4 жыл бұрын
@@CreatorCade yeah I'd say wait until he's 13 or 14, that's when it all started to click for me. Did my first top end rebuild at that time on a big bore 88yz80 haha. Those were good times.
@theonlymudgel
@theonlymudgel 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Cade When I was 12 (at the start of high school) I was already rebuilding engines with a couple of my friends. I had no problem understanding CAM shafts. There’s 12 year old kids today who do very complex coding. If only I was 12 and had 55 years in front me to have all over again.
@Tiddle_s
@Tiddle_s 3 жыл бұрын
So easy to do using electronics, so beautiful to see it done purely mechanically.
@BCzepa
@BCzepa 2 жыл бұрын
easy you say. how? with piston speeds so high wouldn't the speed of electricity mean its less precise? pneumatically controlled valves seems complex and a waste of time in my opinion
@FirieonOG
@FirieonOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@BCzepa considering electricity works at light speed I don’t think so
@mireazma
@mireazma 2 жыл бұрын
First idea that came into my mind. Any mechanical surplus adds to added heating and risks of failure. So much simpler and more reliable to do it in software. But then you'd still have to modulate valve actuating with additional mechanical parts. And BTW it's not about the speed of electricity, it's about the speed of processing and speed of (optical/magnetic?)sensor reading. My uneducated guess: at least 500KHz if not in the range of MHz. With that minimum it would correspond to 30,000,000 cycles/min. For engine revs of 10,000 rot/min it means a resolution of 3,000 positions per engine revolution, or 1,500 positions per piston travel. The resolution increases even further due to decreased piston speed at the end of its travel.
@WhoWantsToKnow81
@WhoWantsToKnow81 2 жыл бұрын
@@FirieonOG The bottleneck of electronics is how fast a microcontroller / microprocessor can "read" how fast electrical signals can come through (in Hz). If the frequency of these signals exceed that of the chip, then you have an issue.
@christopheraugustine5816
@christopheraugustine5816 2 жыл бұрын
@@FirieonOG Electricity does, but electronics don't. I am not refuting the argument as a whole, just this statement.
@DC-iu4qc
@DC-iu4qc 4 жыл бұрын
The sass directed at the KZbin warriors might be my favorite part about this whole video.
@NoName-gv6nm
@NoName-gv6nm 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody is an expert!
@emerkamp1
@emerkamp1 4 жыл бұрын
Only a KZbin warrior or cultist would leave such a comment
@truantray
@truantray 4 жыл бұрын
Except he ignores the fact that Hyundai has a huge recent problem with motors seizing.
@davidwright1653
@davidwright1653 4 жыл бұрын
In the infamous words of Mr. Scott: "the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain". Great presentation!
@Patchuchan
@Patchuchan 4 жыл бұрын
In this case it can be literal if the oil pathways are more prone to clogging.
@shadowbanned69
@shadowbanned69 4 жыл бұрын
Spoken like a true poet!!!! God bless scottie!!!!
@davidwright1653
@davidwright1653 4 жыл бұрын
@@Patchuchan; I never even considered that! So trying the 20,000 mile full synthetic oil would probably not be too wise to test this early in the engines introduction? Just sayin'
@williamwarner3982
@williamwarner3982 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidwright1653 I'm positive 20000 mile oil is a sales gimmick. Don't leave it in that long.
@Patchuchan
@Patchuchan 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidwright1653 Telling the average person they can go 20,000 miles on an oil change is a bad idea on any engine as all engines burn some oil. If they don't check it and top it off periodically it could end up two or three quarts down by the time they do an oil change.
@BJ-uncensored
@BJ-uncensored 4 жыл бұрын
Tuners will now require a PhD in string theory.
@ekummel
@ekummel 4 жыл бұрын
Only professor Farnsworth can fly the Planet Express ship through 2D!
@BJ-uncensored
@BJ-uncensored 4 жыл бұрын
@@ekummel that show was so far ahead of its time. Terribly underrated.
@jhoags92
@jhoags92 4 жыл бұрын
Luckily it's much easier to tweak established stock tunes than designing stock tunes for new engine technology.
@Obsidian-Nebula
@Obsidian-Nebula 4 жыл бұрын
@Allie X Well.. in Theory.. yes =D
@robbae9307
@robbae9307 4 жыл бұрын
not string theory though. The whole concept is bollocks.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile Жыл бұрын
Ingenious! I’ve been driving Hyundais for 14 years. They are famed for not only reliability but also design brilliance.
@ericheine2414
@ericheine2414 4 жыл бұрын
"The Goldilocks Position" just right. Very cool video, killer presentation, thank you
@chucksgarage7165
@chucksgarage7165 4 жыл бұрын
The duration of this camshaft is too long, and the duration of this camshaft is too short. But the duration of this camshaft is just right.
@monstercolorfunco4391
@monstercolorfunco4391 4 жыл бұрын
How to eradicate more coral reefs: take his advice. Does that look more reliable that a bugatti-beating drivetrain with 2 moving parts which can do 1 million miles? Durtech.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 4 жыл бұрын
monstercolorfun co The mechanism is new but the type of technical implementation has been around in crankshafts and camshafts for decades. As for any newly designed engine also this one could have a flaw but I wouldn’t consider the risk of that much higher for this engine.
@lee1210mk2
@lee1210mk2 4 жыл бұрын
Going to feel bad for people who slack on oil changes 😂
@U--Bravo
@U--Bravo 4 жыл бұрын
Those peeps who miss their oil changes are gonna pay
@robertpsotka3525
@robertpsotka3525 4 жыл бұрын
that has been true for quite sometime now
@angelsepulveda8393
@angelsepulveda8393 4 жыл бұрын
I won’t...
@Mynamemightbemichael
@Mynamemightbemichael 4 жыл бұрын
Cough cough cam phasers
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that was my first thoughts.
@csours
@csours 4 жыл бұрын
10:40 2 months to develop the tech, 8 years and 10 months to make it not break.
@asit6947
@asit6947 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta appreciate the engineering behind it
@Jamie-cz2xu
@Jamie-cz2xu 4 жыл бұрын
@@asit6947 or the laziness of the engineers.
@gdpvk
@gdpvk 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jamie-cz2xu if fatigue science is that easy u won't see people buying Toyota everywhere
@Jamie-cz2xu
@Jamie-cz2xu 4 жыл бұрын
@@gdpvk Its a joke lighten up
@Jamie-cz2xu
@Jamie-cz2xu 4 жыл бұрын
@Богдан Кондратов or if you dont change oil regularly
@haroldwestrich3312
@haroldwestrich3312 4 жыл бұрын
After listening to your explanation to "why youtube viewers can't say it will be unreliable" I have to say "IT"S TOO COMPLEX AND WILL BE UNRELIABLE" and or it's extra complexity will require more of everything you mentioned; engineering time, materials expense, part manufacturing costs, lubricating tech, and a PHD in physics to tune it correctly. NOTED: it takes far more time and intellect to create something new, than it does to see that it is complex! I gave thumbs up! :-)
@johnnycarson67
@johnnycarson67 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like a very complex apparatus for just a 4 or 5 percent increase in performance or efficiency. But I am told to small amounts of efficiency like that proved to be great improvements over time. like giving every car on the road one extra mile per gallon of efficiency saves millions of barrels of oil a year
@handyandy6488
@handyandy6488 2 жыл бұрын
You were *determined* to "Be The One" to say it!
@caymanwest4929
@caymanwest4929 2 жыл бұрын
I have this engine and you are correct. The theory and benefits yield to complexity and problems in less than 2 months and 1,000mi. I hate this engine and it unfortunately defines Hyundai.
@nrahman975
@nrahman975 4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai: We made better cam timing Koenigsegg: Who needs cams
@markm4603
@markm4603 4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai: 14,000 $ driveway Koenigsegg : 14,000 $ for one oil change
@drzerg2
@drzerg2 4 жыл бұрын
Series hybrid - who need multiple rpm? Electric - who need combustion?
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 4 жыл бұрын
@@markm4603 Koenigsegg freevalve Sent to mass produce in China = 29.99cts for a complete set of valves
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 4 жыл бұрын
@@drzerg2 UFO: We use gravitational levitation !!
@dyslexiusmaximus
@dyslexiusmaximus 4 жыл бұрын
me: i sit on chair
@ugjhgjf
@ugjhgjf 4 жыл бұрын
Love the visual aids and the presentation. Great work. Where were you when I was in school?! I need you to get in a time machine and go teach at my high school.
@easygoingdude9990
@easygoingdude9990 4 жыл бұрын
Your explanations are so good that you make me feel smarter than I actually am
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 2 жыл бұрын
You explain complicated engineering very simply at times and it's much appreciated.
@ScottWaa
@ScottWaa 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this absolutely fascinating (both mechanically and you explain it in a way that I understand). Also 9 years of development, backed by their 10y/100k warranty! One engine failure... KZbin viewer: "Told you it wouldnt work" 🤦‍♂️
@howabouthetruth2157
@howabouthetruth2157 4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, the average American worker is traveling much farther to get to and from work or job site to job site. 100,000 miles is NOTHING. Most of us will put that on a vehicle within 5 years........so the "10 year" end of the warranty is a joke. I bought a new 2000 Toyota Tacoma 4x4. 20 years later, it still runs & drives just fine on the original engine ( 3RZ 4 cyl ) and auto trans with over 346,000 miles on it. I don't live where they salt the roads every winter, so I don't have to worry about rust. Got a friend who has been working for Toyota as a mechanic/tech for over 20 years now. He says there's no way in hell that even the new Toyota's with VVT will last anywhere near as long as mine. He should know, he works on all of them every day, including his side business.
@snowysysadmin59
@snowysysadmin59 4 жыл бұрын
@@howabouthetruth2157 I swear to god it has something to do with the blocks being cast iron rather than aluminum. You cannot go wrong with a cast iron block and the durability it brings with it. granted the heads for the RZ series at aluminum but still, my iron block, aluminum head ranger is kicking strong day to day with 150k. My moms 2013 corolla let loose at 145k. i mean i could be wrong but....cast iron is considerably stronger than aluminium
@ScottWaa
@ScottWaa 4 жыл бұрын
A joke of a warranty is the 3y/36k. Your "average American worker" comment backs it up.
@howabouthetruth2157
@howabouthetruth2157 4 жыл бұрын
@@snowysysadmin59 Your mom's 2013 Corolla had variable valve timing. Those usually won't last near as long as the older ones. My little 3RZ motor also has a real timing chain & gear too, unlike the V6 from the same era that has a timing belt that needs replaced. Mine also has a factory forged steel crank. SO glad I didn't buy the V6. The only down side to aluminum is ya can't ever let em run hot. But I still prefer an iron block of course. After Toyota canned all of their simpler engine platforms that are famous for super high mileage ( especially the 4 cylinder platforms with forged cranks ), to replace them with all new engines with this damned variable valve timing, the durability has gone down hill. Still more reliable than most of the competition, but no way they are going to last like any of their older engine platforms. The only exceptions are these guys running highway miles only. Plus, all of these newer VVT engines have to run oil that's nearly as thin as water. That in itself poses durability issues, and every good mechanic will tell you that. But ya can't run any other oil type, because the super close tolerances & teeny tiny oil galleys in these newer engines need that water thin crap to run.
@alanmatthews5949
@alanmatthews5949 4 жыл бұрын
If you think they care about reliability you are so wrong. They care about CAFE!! If it breaks in warranty they fix it on their dime... if it breaks out of warranty it you big dime!!
@JoseFloresEC
@JoseFloresEC 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he explained some things twice becasue i was almost going to rewind. I wish all my college professors would be this interesting/great at explaining
@BrBill
@BrBill 4 жыл бұрын
He is good at explaining, but I waited 12 minutes of how before he even began to explain why it is useful. How about the quick why before the long how? And it sounds like he's yelling at us.
@KeenxLimit
@KeenxLimit 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrBill >sounds like he's yelling at us Have you been to Scotty's channel?
@Sevier7777
@Sevier7777 4 жыл бұрын
Your college professors don't really care if you learn or pass. You are just another number and part of their paycheck.
@MrNemo721
@MrNemo721 4 жыл бұрын
Obligatory "Hyundai and Kia are KILLING IT these days!"
@Plur307
@Plur307 4 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend's mom recently bought a new Kia Optima. She took us for a ride in it and I told her I heard valve lash and she should get it looked at. Car had under 1,000 miles. She was offended I had the nerve to suggest her new car had something wrong. 2 weeks later she was getting check engine lights and the engine was running horribly. The valvetrain was self destructing and she needed a new engine. It was fixed under warranty. But I am still really turned off by the fact her Kia didn't last a month before the engine was trashed.
@sebastianhoth5265
@sebastianhoth5265 4 жыл бұрын
@@Plur307 it's not unheard of for engines, transmissions, diffs to break so early. It's a manufacturing fault, so stastically it's basically impossible to get rid of all faults
@MrNemo721
@MrNemo721 4 жыл бұрын
@@Plur307 Kia is killing it(self)
@Hawk7886
@Hawk7886 4 жыл бұрын
@@Plur307 Literally all manufacturers encounter the same problems. Engines have thousands of parts, both mechanical and electrical, and the most likely time they'll have issues is when they're new.
@Ogknav
@Ogknav 4 жыл бұрын
Obligatory "Hyundai and Kia are trash"?
@eduardoligeiro2817
@eduardoligeiro2817 3 жыл бұрын
This video and instructions are wayy more effective than 3-year of classes about engine building - cutting-edge technologies ! It is a must for any engineer
@vancemacd6315
@vancemacd6315 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a follow up with a used engine and see where the weak points are. Great top notch videos. Thanks
@ronmac1832
@ronmac1832 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing. A portion of my life was spent working on an electronic valve actuator that ultimately failed. I recall thinking there must be a way to do this with a cam. Glad to see it happened.
@danibess6284
@danibess6284 4 жыл бұрын
Why did it failed? How much power does it typically needs?
@opencarry3860
@opencarry3860 4 жыл бұрын
When you think about everything that is moving within the engine, the high revolutions, heat, and pressures generated, it is amazing that any engine doesn't blow apart in less than one minute.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 4 жыл бұрын
It's all about pressurized oil in thin films acting as the sacrificial surface, which is a trip all on its own. Like _"yeah, I'm just going to use this _*_liquid made of strings_*_ to separate hundreds of Kilowatts of mechanical energy."_ Sometimes I swear this has to be a fever dream.
@reaganharder1480
@reaganharder1480 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtlasReburdened though even without oil most engines will last a bit longer than minute.
@2012listo
@2012listo Жыл бұрын
I have the 1.6 turbo in my kia forte gt. Best car ever! Burger JB4, AEM intake, throttle race chip, catch can. I'm putting down over 300 hp on a fully stock engine! Fell in love with the hyper-responsive 1.6 in my 04 aveo. Couldn't wait for thr turbo, and it's better than I had hoped. Thank you Korea!
@Scott-r3s
@Scott-r3s 4 ай бұрын
That's the older gamma engine. CVVD is used on the newer smartstream 1.6 turbo
@chriswilliams2652
@chriswilliams2652 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely like the idea of purely mechanical systems.
@ser7ser7i
@ser7ser7i 4 жыл бұрын
I love them
@jamest3597
@jamest3597 4 жыл бұрын
they just aren't as efficient
@Garbox80
@Garbox80 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamest3597 But less likely to malfunction randomly. And Hyundai has really thought about reliability when they implemented those oil holes there. Time will tell, but for some reason I could see those things last quite well (if people don't ruin them with long life oil changes...).
@whogavehimafork
@whogavehimafork 4 жыл бұрын
As a mechanical engineer, so do I but I'm biased what can I say
@chriswilliams2652
@chriswilliams2652 4 жыл бұрын
@@whogavehimafork lol
@christopherleetrf
@christopherleetrf 4 жыл бұрын
This is a mathematician's solution actually applied by engineers.
@HalfdeadRider
@HalfdeadRider 4 жыл бұрын
Everything uses Maths/Maths can be applied to anything.
@jGRite
@jGRite 4 жыл бұрын
...much like atoms.
@starstencahl8985
@starstencahl8985 4 жыл бұрын
Having a theory is one thing. Realizing it is a different story
@5naxalotl
@5naxalotl 4 жыл бұрын
yes. there's a long history of auto engineers trying too hard to implement mathematically beautiful ideas. the germans are notorious for it, going back at least as far as ww2 tanks that were technically very superior on paper, but much more expensive than russian tanks and difficult to maintain. maybe the best example though is the wankel rotary, with its mesmerizingly elegant geometry, but fundamentally unsolvable issues with lubricant flow and heat distribution. a lot of R&D that became endless money pits and never saw production could be described as "a *perfect* solution that we _just_ need to iron out a few little bugs". this is also the story for virtually *all* amateur re-inventions of the internal combustion engine. imo, congrats to hyundai that they've turned this idea into a real world solution
@RyanGetLow
@RyanGetLow 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't a comment
@sajsed2
@sajsed2 4 жыл бұрын
when honda introduced vtec the skeptics said it would never be reliable and look what happen vtec is one of the most used, loved and trusted technology in the car performance car community.
@truantray
@truantray 4 жыл бұрын
Plus, that boost when it kicks in, yo.
@phildavenport4150
@phildavenport4150 4 жыл бұрын
Initially, it would be a bit of an ask to abandon Honda's VTEC in favor of CVVD, if only because VTEC is so smooth and bulletproof, especially in Type R. Anybody remember BRM's H16? That's 16 pistons, not valves. That it ran at all with the technology of the 60s remains a mystery. Poor Jim Clark - 1 win at the USGP was it, and they retired the motor. I'd prefer to see the CVVD progress to a Type R version, and a year's hard use in a car, before considering it. And I'd like to see some serious HP/torque figures to recommend it above VTEC's output.
@kenkalajdzic
@kenkalajdzic 4 жыл бұрын
@@truantray I prefer another VTEC related phrase: "all the lag without a turbo!" :)
@THEGRAYFOXX00
@THEGRAYFOXX00 4 жыл бұрын
*Honda made in Japan not its *chinese counterfeit copy
@LaconicMind
@LaconicMind 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenkalajdzic that's one of my biggest complaints with my Civic, when I get to 3k RPMs I have to wait for power. I rarely go above 3250-3500 RPMs so it is really annoying. wish I could choose to give up the extra ~8hp
@tomnekuda3818
@tomnekuda3818 2 жыл бұрын
This design is pure genius, giving an engine the best of all worlds.
@Ace0nPoint
@Ace0nPoint 4 жыл бұрын
This video was so well explained I almost understood it. xD
@755hp
@755hp 4 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of my favorite KZbinrs of all time.
@mrshoney2624
@mrshoney2624 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the way this gentleman Explains everything In the simplest of ways with good illustrations and working models. Well done, keep up the good work.
@sjsz06
@sjsz06 2 жыл бұрын
if you can handle his voice and cadence... which bothers me after a short time.
@logancausier
@logancausier 2 жыл бұрын
Hyundai is really stepping up their game lately, I bought a Veloster N in January and I was beyond impressed. I continue to be impressed every time they release something new
@Hardworkpays209
@Hardworkpays209 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly dude they have been on the upward trend since like 2012 it just takes awhile to get the recognition.
@aaronhowell2011
@aaronhowell2011 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you mentioned Atkinson Cycle. I was thinking this seems perfect to allow that at cruising speeds.
@shamandarnell
@shamandarnell 4 жыл бұрын
This is more of a miller cycle engine, since it will be turbocharged. Meaning the diferances in power bands might not change too much.
@aaronhowell2011
@aaronhowell2011 4 жыл бұрын
@@shamandarnell That's a really good point. I continually forget the Miller exists.
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronhowell2011 Toyota has been using atkinson-miller engines in their hybrids since the Prius came out in 1998. The narrow rpm band for miller fuel efficiency is accommodated by the eCVT.
@promiscuouscrab4040
@promiscuouscrab4040 4 жыл бұрын
“A part actually has to break for something to go wrong.” *But when something breaks, everything will go wrong.*
@TononiaWorld
@TononiaWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Not everything, only one valve group by design failure point is on the pin
@lexol3347
@lexol3347 4 жыл бұрын
A guarantee for 10 years/100,000 miles, then you're on your own. Lol! It has an actuator which is electrical, so everything is not really mechanical, in my opinion.
@carlitoxb110
@carlitoxb110 4 жыл бұрын
@@TononiaWorld if a valve fails it will crash against the head of the piston and your wallet will be pretty pissed off
@TononiaWorld
@TononiaWorld 4 жыл бұрын
@@lexol3347 I prefer a vacuum-assisted actuator if you ask me. then it's truly mechanical
@promiscuouscrab4040
@promiscuouscrab4040 4 жыл бұрын
Most engines are interference engines, so yes, if something fails in this intricate system and a valve doesn’t close your engine will promptly grenade itself
@crossandshoot796
@crossandshoot796 4 жыл бұрын
So unfortunate lol Koenigsegg just announces the gemera that uses the freevalve technology right as Jason releases this video lol
@Prithvidiamond
@Prithvidiamond 4 жыл бұрын
Happens...
@exidous6831
@exidous6831 4 жыл бұрын
True but still not mass produced. Will make for a good proof of concept though.
@DoubleM55
@DoubleM55 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. This system could still be more prefered, we will see when the cost and reliabillity data comes. Possibly free-valve tech will be much more expensive and not worth it for the cheaper economy class engines (Where Hyundai/KIA are brilliant). Anyways competition is always a good thing :)
@F41LZZz
@F41LZZz 4 жыл бұрын
i was just about to comment this. if freevalve turns out to do half the things its said to do it will be revolutionary. its sucks its taken so long to make its way into production cars
@nzxt1234
@nzxt1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@exidous6831 I think china auto maker Qoros is/were gonna mass produce cars whit free valve system from konigsegg
@cameronhicks5225
@cameronhicks5225 2 жыл бұрын
Alright, this is unorthodox but I am going to comment when only halfway through the video. I have enjoyed your videos before quite a bit but holy hell this was a great visual demonstration of how the CVVD engine works
@NCSUME1
@NCSUME1 4 жыл бұрын
From this mechanical engineer's standpoint, this was an excellent presentation and explanation of the technology.
@ThePilotGear
@ThePilotGear 4 жыл бұрын
very impressive. I always love seeing these purely mechanical advancements. Hats off to Hyundai for building this!
@mojeimja
@mojeimja 4 жыл бұрын
There is only one valve tech that you can really feel when driving, and it is KICKING, YO!
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 4 жыл бұрын
"Bro did you feel it hit VTEC"?
@matthewb7049
@matthewb7049 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah if I had a choice over hyandi or honda the awnser is VERY clear ...
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewb7049 the answer is always Subaru
@joshrandall3632
@joshrandall3632 2 жыл бұрын
Purely mechanical, but controlled electronically, like VVT, VNT, VVL and everything else. Great to see more innovation from these companies and I truly hope this works as well as they say.
@wayne-4617
@wayne-4617 4 жыл бұрын
"You might be wondering about Koenigsegg's free valve..." GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
@mattfielding3313
@mattfielding3313 4 жыл бұрын
Americans pronunciation of European cars is really ignorant... “KERN” Not “CONE”. KOENIGSEGG.
@broughttoideas
@broughttoideas 4 жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment that but found your comment atleast ik theres still hope in humanity
@702xRyder
@702xRyder 4 жыл бұрын
I'm saying
@nc3826
@nc3826 4 жыл бұрын
Americans don't need to worry about pronouncing foreign words, from the old world, since y'all can't pronounce American words.... And since American companies run the world, you're all a bad joke of bitching whiners to us anyway...
@dirtyfacegeorge9938
@dirtyfacegeorge9938 4 жыл бұрын
@@nc3826 lol, American companies don't run the world Samsung and Toyota are 1and 2. Not American. It's easy to tell you are American, with your ignorance and all.
@ifell3
@ifell3 4 жыл бұрын
I dont care as long as all these little dots line themselves up easily when doing a chain or belt replacement!!
@bauuau18
@bauuau18 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine a timing job ! Hope your right
@ashtompkins7887
@ashtompkins7887 4 жыл бұрын
The timing process would be the same as a conventional timing chain set-up. Seeing as the camshafts main body is rotating at a constant speed, any changes would be done by the ECU by moving the system through it's range of motion.
@ifell3
@ifell3 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashtompkins7887 I guess it would, trying to think if the motor that turns would be some sort of stepper motor or there are extra sensors along the cam for the ECU to know where all the positionings are? If you disconnected the battery would the ECU retard the cam to 0, set it's position or use another cam sensor?
@zakeller
@zakeller 4 жыл бұрын
ifell3 I was about to say the same thing; surely that actuator has absolute positioning, otherwise that could go really, really bad.
@ashtompkins7887
@ashtompkins7887 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it'd be a stepper motor. And that it would default to a 'zero' position in the event of a system fault. (Failed motor, broken wire, software glitch etc)
@HalferLandPerformance
@HalferLandPerformance 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's ingenious!! We grind custom Stage cams for Honda Small Blocks (V6 J-Series engines 😋) and this was interesting as hell to see!
@isaacsellers700able
@isaacsellers700able 3 жыл бұрын
9 years of engineering makes me appreciate my 21 Sonata N Line further more
@wyw201
@wyw201 3 жыл бұрын
If only the Sonata N line comes with AWD, then it wouldn’t be a tire burning machine.
@kokopuffs5789
@kokopuffs5789 2 жыл бұрын
your N line has the 2.5 liter engine. This technology is for the 1.6liter
@malathuni
@malathuni 4 жыл бұрын
this would make much more sense in a diesel engine to reduce air on low load - poor mixture scenarios and by extension , reducing also NOx emissions and possible removing the need of an egr
@AllenZee
@AllenZee 4 жыл бұрын
Funny you should said that. Hyun/KIA had a very long-term GDI and TDI diesel plan mapped out for their vehicles. We can thank VW for screwingthat up for everybody in Murica. Glad to see that they are still innovating in spite of someone else's snafu
@travisversher7928
@travisversher7928 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I would love to see any documentation or test results on a diesel system.
@DunateoRom8v37
@DunateoRom8v37 4 жыл бұрын
@@AllenZee do you watch AutoExpert maybe? "Murica"
@AllenZee
@AllenZee 4 жыл бұрын
@@DunateoRom8v37 I don't !!! Will check it out though. THANK YOU!
@JaegerWrenching
@JaegerWrenching 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it a poor mixture per say, just a overly oxygen saturated mixture. I do believe the new 1/2 ton diesel engine from GM no longer requires EGR, they have solved that issue by using the turbo's vane control combined with some good valve control to hold more exhaust in the cylinder after the combustion stroke. This is great because it really simplifies the whole process and doesn't require adding a lot of new complexity.
@kipamore
@kipamore 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to be “that guy” but Fiat multiaire has been out since 2007, and controls the valve with oil pressure. Variable timing, variable lift, variable duration, and multiple intake events per stroke if you want it. Simple and robust, it’s been working trouble free in my Abarth.
@Nyan9001
@Nyan9001 4 жыл бұрын
Was about to ask about the Fiat/Alfa Multiair engines!
@etgmotorsport9742
@etgmotorsport9742 4 жыл бұрын
It does work trouble free in small engines such as fiat twin air 0,9l, 1.4 miultiair but also in jeep alfa romeo engines 2.0 and 2.4. It is far less complicated then honda`s mechanical version. Multiair system had its downs in first version of modules but it was modified in 2010 and it runs smoothly.
@sed8181
@sed8181 4 жыл бұрын
how does koenigsegg's camless engine fit in to all of this?
@carlsagan2371
@carlsagan2371 4 жыл бұрын
Rover also did this system competently with the K-series all the way back in the 90s!
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 4 жыл бұрын
Don't use Fiat and trouble free in the same sentence.....
@blessed7fold
@blessed7fold 4 жыл бұрын
I think the real genius is Jason's ability to communicate this highly complex and complicated piece of machinery.
@tuahsakato17
@tuahsakato17 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bendeleted9155
@bendeleted9155 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for obtaining physical models for the visuals. Now that's going the extra mile! 👍
@robertcraig1614
@robertcraig1614 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait till 2030 where we can download a big cam
@justinmallaiz4549
@justinmallaiz4549 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Craig Tesla model 3 awd owners were given that option
@TwinTurboZach
@TwinTurboZach 4 жыл бұрын
It likely wont work like this, per se. Because the one thing better than this, is controlling the opening and closing events independent from eachother for both the exhaust and intake valves. In the end, maximum power or efficiency isnt based on the lift, timing, or duration, but when each of the specific valve events are happening in relation to rpm, throttle position, etc. Meaning IV opening and IV closing both have their specific effects on power and efficiency as well as EV opening and EV closing (the 4 valve events in total). With this system you can change duration yes, but you cannot control the opening and closing events independent from eachother, which is the benefit that a free valve system would get (minus the fact that you cant continuously change the lift like a free valve system could). This is because its not necessarily the duration or cam timing that are a deciding factor of efficiency and power, but the 4 individual valve events themselves and how they operated based on numerous factors of the engine itself such as displacement, bore, stroke, intake runner length, exhaust system, etc all boiling down to how valve events work to be more efficient based on these factors. The cam duration and timing is a result of controlling the 4 events, not the other way around which is why controlling the valve events independent from eachother would be the ideal situation. BUT when pairing CVVD with a type of VVT system, you could technically achieve this same effect (minus continuously variable lift), but it would likely be more complicated mechanically. You could retard the valve timing itself to lets say, for example, make the intake valve open slightly later, BUT if you were to increase the duration at twice the rate in terms of total degrees of duration change, you could cancel out the retarding of the intake valve opening (advance it the same degree the cam was retarded), but it would also retard (happen later) the intake valve closing event (because when you increase duration at the same cam position, the IVO advances and IVC retards), meaning you could hypothetically keep IVO in the same position, while having the intake valve closing at a later point, effectively controlling the opening and closing valve events independent from eachother. This could also be done with the exhaust valves as well, and be done in combination with the intake valves to maximize the benefits of power and/or efficiency (mostly from valve overlap and EVO/IVC timing and how they play a role with eachother). You could do this in any number of ways, for power and/or fuel efficiency, by retarding or advancing the cam timing itself any number of degrees while simultaneously changing the duration to either over or under compensate the change of a specific valve event to move it in a certain direction or keep it in the same position while also changing the other valve event in the same way. Which, I suppose you could "download" that calibration for the camshaft/valve events, but it would be really specific to any given engine, and likely be a custom calibration.
@yslee1401
@yslee1401 4 жыл бұрын
Most cars would be electric by then
@enthused7591
@enthused7591 4 жыл бұрын
That's going to be a really cool way to get destroyed by cars with electric motors.
@Igneshto
@Igneshto 4 жыл бұрын
@@yslee1401 All of them, probably.
@jerizzome
@jerizzome 4 жыл бұрын
Daaamn Engineering Explained AND Defended! This is good stuff though, would love to see how well CVVD does in the long run
@Rlwood1963
@Rlwood1963 4 жыл бұрын
Ingenious that is just one more step towards the holy grail. Granted they are complex enough and at my age just what I need is something more complex, but that this is purely mechanical is just crazy. Congrats Hyundai well done.... Awesome video thank you
@joeycmore
@joeycmore 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and proving why I'm not an auto engineer. Whether intentional or not, you've inadvertently confirmed 2 things most lay people grasp intuitively: mechanical systems are more reliable; and there are far too many electronic systems in modern cars.
@istra70
@istra70 4 жыл бұрын
"mechanical systems are more reliable " - but are heavier, produce more heat and rattle more. They wear, and can seize and brake too. To me it is like improving the steam engine..... The future is all electric. Each wheel his own el. motor. They have more torque, produce more power and are more durable. For latest development check.........RIMAC automobili ......
@joeycmore
@joeycmore 3 жыл бұрын
@@istra70 it's not really a contradiction: electric motors are a mechanical system using electricity instead of gas. I'm much less impressed by the high degree of gadgetry and "convenience" technology contributing to unnecessarily expensive complexity...
@istra70
@istra70 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeycmoreI know that it's not contradiction and that el cars are mechanical systems. I am sure they will be basic, simpler and cheaper solutions available in future, and we will all have a choice. But if you want to market new technology - you wouldn't pick a golf cart or electric wheelchair, but something complex packed with gadgets and performance - just to show off dazzling possibilities and achievements.
@CardoneJones
@CardoneJones 4 жыл бұрын
"See how Hyundai uses this one simple trick to allow valves to open and close for different durations(Cam shafts hate them!!)"
@flagmichael
@flagmichael 4 жыл бұрын
_weird_ trick.
@AB-ou8ve
@AB-ou8ve 4 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOLOL
@KoushikSkelly
@KoushikSkelly 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there...really loved the way you explained at the beginning about VVT,VVL and VVD... keep rocking
@rconger24
@rconger24 4 жыл бұрын
"CVVD" - bad timing to promote it this way.
@VZBudgetBuildz
@VZBudgetBuildz 4 жыл бұрын
“Bad Timing”
@galenmarek8287
@galenmarek8287 4 жыл бұрын
CoVID- Continuously Variable Intake Dynamics
@micahgerdis1008
@micahgerdis1008 4 жыл бұрын
@@galenmarek8287 Corona beer sales sky rocketed after covid. I assumed it would have hurt sales but I guess all liquor sales have been pretty high.
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what they will call this motor.........hmmmm?
@paul1e
@paul1e 4 жыл бұрын
@@micahgerdis1008 corona beer sales dropped in US btw. But any weird or retard news from there doesnt suprice me anymore
@stevebueno5598
@stevebueno5598 2 жыл бұрын
Great concept! To bad Hyundai / kia have trouble making regular engines. But at least they give you a free one when they fail. I give them that they are trying
@bradcomis1066
@bradcomis1066 4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai has now entered the hallowed halls of over complexity. “Guten Tag Hyundai!” Said BMW
@bijan426
@bijan426 4 жыл бұрын
It really doesn't seem that complex tho.
@paul1e
@paul1e 4 жыл бұрын
will most likely work better/longer than vanos :D
@mavrx3176
@mavrx3176 4 жыл бұрын
@@bijan426 its not lol its called innovation and its literally just a few more metal pieces moving idk what this bloke is on about
@husboy1
@husboy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@mavrx3176 More moving metal pieces is also more metal pieces needing maintenance.
@mavrx3176
@mavrx3176 4 жыл бұрын
@@husboy1 not all metal needs maintenance....how many metal parts are in your car now that never have to be maintained. Unless you mean lubricated
@rudolfhuijs4526
@rudolfhuijs4526 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I swear in the video thumbnail title I read "First COVID engine". Very good videos on engine tech. Keep up the good work!
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
Going to have to get me one of them (variable everything) engine
@OrlandoMGarcia
@OrlandoMGarcia 4 жыл бұрын
Piston Compresion, valve duration, valve timing, valve lift, variable turbo geometry, port and direct injection, exhaust valves, maybe there still is future for ICE and mecanical sistems
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the engines who's constituent parts simply phase into and out of reality as needed.
@radosaworman7628
@radosaworman7628 4 жыл бұрын
CVVDTL-i?
@djvasforever
@djvasforever 4 жыл бұрын
Variable oil change
@austinhowze6280
@austinhowze6280 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrlandoMGarcia forgot displacement
@eddiemorrone870
@eddiemorrone870 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you included animations in this video.
@gregoryfuller1136
@gregoryfuller1136 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant; and I thought BMW's valvetronic was really awesome. This is another level on top of that. New and huge respect for Hyundai. People will just have to make sure they change their oil regularly. Technology can't fix that unfortunately...
@joebloggs4191
@joebloggs4191 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't Hyundai headed up by an ex BMW guy?
@jaredshelton4718
@jaredshelton4718 4 жыл бұрын
@@joebloggs4191 What?
@CptMorganHD
@CptMorganHD 4 жыл бұрын
joe bloggs at least their N Segment is lead by an ex BMW M guy
@TurboquandoGaming
@TurboquandoGaming 4 жыл бұрын
joe bloggs I thought it was Audi
@joebloggs4191
@joebloggs4191 4 жыл бұрын
@@TurboquandoGaming Actually I believe it's someone from Porsche heading up Kia and the guy who used to be head of BMW M division heads up Hyundai
@Hellblazzer
@Hellblazzer 4 жыл бұрын
The engineering behind all this must be praised, but man, I love my Transit's old 2.5di OHV/pushrod engine 😅
@garypeatling7927
@garypeatling7927 4 жыл бұрын
And landrover 200tdi
@peterburt2905
@peterburt2905 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Seems as if my siblings and I have discovered your channel independently and so now if we get together your content becomes a hot topic for discussion haha. 10:25 lmao at your comment about comments. I admit that as I watched all those pretty little moving parts I was considering component wear but I concluded that simply adding more moving parts to a well designed system doesn't necessarily make any single component more wear prone. On the other hand, I suppose that the greater the number of manufactured and/or moving parts there are in a system, the greater the chances of a manufacturing or design fault. However, my best (though completely intuitive) guess is that the combined effect of ongoing improvements in metallurgy, design, manufacturing process and lubrication products will have actually resulted in reduced risk of component failure in engines despite their increased complexity. Thanks again for the great video.
@buffalomerkis7603
@buffalomerkis7603 2 жыл бұрын
I’m betting a good chunk of that 9 years was researching the interplay between lift, duration, valve timing overlap between exhaust and intake as well as making it reliable. The sheer amount of number crunching involved must have been immense.
@christopheraugustine5816
@christopheraugustine5816 2 жыл бұрын
I won't say that it would not have been possible without computer simulation, but I doubt it would have been as good.
@RoderickLudens
@RoderickLudens 4 жыл бұрын
"Let me present to you this new and amazing valve technology!..." Mr. Koenigsegg: "hold my beer! I need to present my new and insane new 4 seats hypercar with a two liters three cylinders engine and 600HP with a SUPERIOR valve technology that gets rid of any mechanical solution..."
@thereignofdando
@thereignofdando 4 жыл бұрын
I just posted this too - pretty certain Free Valve by Christian K was the first to do this, just without a cam.
@monstrositygamers
@monstrositygamers 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah why aren't hydraulic/pneumatic/electronic valve actuation systems more common..? It's completely variable in every way
@ivanmius
@ivanmius 4 жыл бұрын
@@monstrositygamers The energy to drive that system may be greater than this one. There's also something to be said about it being a completely mechanical system. Besides, maybe this system has all the variability that you could need.
@PrydeWater901
@PrydeWater901 4 жыл бұрын
Kirby Reding $$$
@mcplutt
@mcplutt 4 жыл бұрын
Elon Musk: Hold my hat!
@kerrirodrigues7892
@kerrirodrigues7892 4 жыл бұрын
wow.., this is just amazing! i never knew Hyundai had this good engineers.
@arthurtapper1092
@arthurtapper1092 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't they poach a whole bunch of engineers from BMW a while back?
@MrAdoh2010
@MrAdoh2010 4 жыл бұрын
Their EVs have better real world range than Tesla or any other manufacturer. They are also in the same league with efficiency as Tesla meanwhile Porsche just got an embarrassing range rating from the EPA for the Taycan. Hyundai is doing good.
@arcadiagreen150
@arcadiagreen150 4 жыл бұрын
CVVD just kicked in yo! Said no one ever.
@bluesnowfox361
@bluesnowfox361 4 жыл бұрын
You're telling me you don't know a single car person who will freak out and exaggerate the feeling of a 5% power boost? XD
@ArcoZakus
@ArcoZakus 4 жыл бұрын
Sean Cunningham, "... Said no one ever." Except maybe whenever they check their MPG.
@arcadiagreen150
@arcadiagreen150 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArcoZakus 1989 honda crx: -48 mpg - 0-60 9.7 seconds - Weight: 2048 lbs 2020 hyundai Sonata - 38 Mpg - 0-60: 8.6 seconds - Weight: 3120 lbs. The hyundai looks pretty good. Until you consider the 30 *YEAR* difference in technology. 1989 honda Crx Co2 emissions 170g/km 2020 hyundai sonata Co2 emissions 162 g/km I will admit that the CRX won't fair as well in a crash lol. Also recognize that these cars are from two different weight classes. Just food for thought.
@lucasgoldman2066
@lucasgoldman2066 4 жыл бұрын
@@arcadiagreen150 Huh.. thats actually very interesting. Thanks for that info!
@killakam123321
@killakam123321 4 жыл бұрын
@@arcadiagreen150 nice format
@pcrengnr1
@pcrengnr1 4 жыл бұрын
Jason, thx for sharing. It was a great explanation. I'm an electronics guy, but properly designed mech systems tend to be much more reliable. A great example is a mech home thermostat or even a mech thermometer. So, I get the reliability aspect. The energy requirement to run Koenigsegg's system is certainly a concern and would require a study. Seems like this system has it's roots in the Antikithera mechanism. That mech is able to have variable speed orbital items and uses an offset pin and other components to effect that eccentric variable speed motion. The Hyundai team adopted that into their design for higher speeds and loads all the while ensuring reliability. Studying things in the past sometimes have a place in the present. Again, Jason thx for sharing.
@jimjackson4256
@jimjackson4256 2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation.I came to the same conclusion independently.I have to think that the engineer(s) who came up with this saw a documentary on the antithekitera mechanism and thought that is brilliant where can i use that.The genius of archimedes is still being used in a way he could never have imagined.I have to wonder what other kinds of ancient technology is being used or will be used of which i have zero knowledge.
@JIMMY-ck1oe
@JIMMY-ck1oe 2 жыл бұрын
I am not engineer guy Is the CVVD engine better than other engines?
@bulletgt3
@bulletgt3 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, im a mechanic and i get nightmares by looking at this D:
@calebdunlap7382
@calebdunlap7382 4 жыл бұрын
bulletgt3 YEP! That head looks totally convoluted, but I’ll be damned, the way that was explained on how it works, on paper it sounds like an amazing concept!
@daveoneal5544
@daveoneal5544 4 жыл бұрын
Not for nothing but picture vtec combined with a timing actuator on each cam lol
@randomvideosn0where
@randomvideosn0where 4 жыл бұрын
@@calebdunlap7382 Personally I'd rather give up 4% power for simplicity, but that's where Toyota comes in.
@deciplesteve
@deciplesteve 4 жыл бұрын
This thing will be hell to set timing on, but I find it fascinating.
@lpeeff
@lpeeff 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, The way he talks about engineers, like they don't ever mess up. Engineers will climb over pile of a hundred beautyqueens f* one technician.
@TheSaabClinicUK
@TheSaabClinicUK 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive tech. But wear and failure would be my main concern. Having had 3 Camshafts snap in my time. These Camshafts are even weaker due to the slot-pin.
@MikeWrenches
@MikeWrenches 4 жыл бұрын
Fiat multiair does this by pretty much turning the can lobes into hydraulic pumps, using hydraulic pistons to open the valves and solenoids to control flow between the two.
@ronnytotten9292
@ronnytotten9292 3 жыл бұрын
Oh uea and it has actually been around in racing for a long time
@peterfairlane2065
@peterfairlane2065 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw this. Its surprisingly simple , but brilliant to those who came up with it .
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 4 жыл бұрын
Owner: How often do i have to do a oil change? Hyundai: Yes
@MLGXBOXPRO
@MLGXBOXPRO 4 жыл бұрын
Fuel dilution in GDI engines have already made that a thing. I have to change my 2019 turbo Hyundai every 3k miles to keep the oil in spec.
@josiahr1375
@josiahr1375 4 жыл бұрын
@@MLGXBOXPRO buy Toyota next time.
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 4 жыл бұрын
As a hyundai/kia KINDA enthusiast, the WORST problem with them is the OWNERS who never change the oil.
@Случайноерусскоеимя
@Случайноерусскоеимя 4 жыл бұрын
@@josiahr1375 eww... just eww
@richardmiller3808
@richardmiller3808 4 жыл бұрын
That's the engine's Achilles heel for sure. You will have to stay on top of oil and filter changes.
@EmbraceMaking
@EmbraceMaking 4 жыл бұрын
That is some fascinating mechanical wizardry.
@istra70
@istra70 4 жыл бұрын
I can see this as being excellent museum display......
@MikeCasey311
@MikeCasey311 4 жыл бұрын
I admire the genius, increased complexity and the number of moving parts all requiring continual lubrication as compared to an electric motor.
@istra70
@istra70 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It looks like trying to improve steam engine. The future is electric. Check...... RIMAC ...... for latest development in el cars.
@MikeCasey311
@MikeCasey311 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithschneidly3922 T.T.T. Things Take Time
@gregleithoff5943
@gregleithoff5943 3 жыл бұрын
I started as an auto tech in the 70,s and the advances in tech are a mindblower!! Keep up the great videos!
@darylhudson777
@darylhudson777 2 жыл бұрын
And now they can put AI in charge of everything and AI will just get rid of us... what a mind blower. Tsk tsk tsk...shame shame shame...evolution...meh.
@JIMMY-ck1oe
@JIMMY-ck1oe 2 жыл бұрын
Is the CVVD good? How good is it compared to other engines?
@theforestarcher9680
@theforestarcher9680 4 жыл бұрын
MIND BLOWN! That is so cool! I love the complicated application of simple physics and math. *maniacally giggles*
@DoodleyDavid
@DoodleyDavid 4 жыл бұрын
Always wondered what that electronic thing was on the side of the engine. Great explanation I have a 2020 Hyundai Sonata just did my fourth oil change hit 20,000 miles and not a single issue.
@JIMMY-ck1oe
@JIMMY-ck1oe 2 жыл бұрын
Is you engine CVVD? How is it now?
@DoodleyDavid
@DoodleyDavid 2 жыл бұрын
@@JIMMY-ck1oe great sitting at 57,000 miles
@JIMMY-ck1oe
@JIMMY-ck1oe 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoodleyDavid Did you find any muilky oil under your tank cap?
@DoodleyDavid
@DoodleyDavid 2 жыл бұрын
@@JIMMY-ck1oe never have.
@JIMMY-ck1oe
@JIMMY-ck1oe 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoodleyDavid What do you think sportage?
@BJRUThere
@BJRUThere 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I’ve watched in a long time on any subject. Thank you. I really enjoyed it.
@crazyg74
@crazyg74 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I missed this one. Well done to the team(s) who solved this puzzle!
@23ofSeptember
@23ofSeptember 4 жыл бұрын
This was interesting to watch. I thought this was about Honda's CVCC engine at first. Boy was I wrong!
@will4real58
@will4real58 4 жыл бұрын
My neighbor had an Accord CVCC, not sure if he's right but he said that's where the civic name came from.
@anomilumiimulimona2924
@anomilumiimulimona2924 4 жыл бұрын
Will4Real, it is.
@johnwade1095
@johnwade1095 4 жыл бұрын
You aren't the only one. First time I stripped a vtec I said 'that will never work' 6ppm failure rate says I was wrong. This looks like a better concept.
@rc5549
@rc5549 4 жыл бұрын
So my understanding is that it's going to cost me more money when my mechanic needs to fix it. :D
@plupkination
@plupkination 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. WAYY more.
@malcolmar
@malcolmar 4 жыл бұрын
That will be after 10 years or 100,000 miles due to Hyundai's amazing warranty. There are many "traditional" engines that don't have that kind of backing.
@wellsloan975
@wellsloan975 4 жыл бұрын
only failure point is the motor driving the shaft everything else is mechanical, at most youre looking at replacing the motor if anything.
@negergreger666
@negergreger666 4 жыл бұрын
@@wellsloan975 right, because mechanical items never fail or wear out.
@kathrynck
@kathrynck 4 жыл бұрын
@@malcolmar I don't think you've tried to actually "use" Hyundai's warranty perhaps.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching KZbin for more than NINE YEARS , so I know more
@nonleftist
@nonleftist 4 жыл бұрын
Say staying at a Holiday Inn Express for a night.
@shaunhall1838
@shaunhall1838 3 жыл бұрын
The benefits of this engine are worth pursuing. Nice video!
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