We are happy to work with you on this collaborative effort! Excited to see where it goes from here!
@matthewmalaker4775 сағат бұрын
My immediate question here is why hydrogen combustion was chosen over the use of a hydrogen fuel cell with an electric motor. Is it a weight problem similar to battery electric? I'm just wondering because if you're already bringing the hydrogen with you, why not use a fuel cell and get the extra efficiency? Cost? Weight?
@Buggabones5 сағат бұрын
@@matthewmalaker477 Brother, you're talking to someone who runs the social media account, not the engineers who invented the engine.
@matt_b...5 сағат бұрын
About 47 miles apparently.
@bluemountain41815 сағат бұрын
@@matthewmalaker477 They are looking into hydrogen fuel cell as well as battery electric technologies, this hydrogen combustion is one tech demonstration among several
@gsilva2205 сағат бұрын
@@matthewmalaker477 Fluid propulsion doesnt allow for regenerative braking, so a more efficient engine is better than a fuel cell or series hybrid setup. Electric propulsion on fluids will only take over when we finally eliminate input conversion (plug-in batteries).
@pooyakhalili4065 сағат бұрын
It's incredible what this man can do with a whitebord and a few markers
@EngineeringExplained3 сағат бұрын
Haha, appreciate it!
@just.jose.youtube2 сағат бұрын
Whiteboard... 😍🤤
@onemantwohands522435 минут бұрын
@@EngineeringExplainedhey mate , do you remember the guy who could do the chalk board and make it skip for dotted lines 😂 I went straight out and got our board and started to do the lines 😂
@DonziGT2305 сағат бұрын
The perfect marine application for hydrogen is a pontoon boat, use the tanks as the toons so no hull space is wasted. Hitting something could be quite a show.
@JoshuaC9234 сағат бұрын
MV Kaboomz
@EngineeringExplained4 сағат бұрын
Toon tanks has a nice ring to it!
@b9eda9ad4 сағат бұрын
I completly agree. They should send it to Ukraine for testing in the Red sea. Specially the last part at night.
@zachlafond26524 сағат бұрын
I've always thought those would be great for battery power. The top could be a giant solar panel. Most people just cruise in toons, they aren't going 70mph.
@markmuir73383 сағат бұрын
Call it the H-bomb. Sorted.
@dj_laundry_list6 сағат бұрын
I would like to see the tradeoffs they're considering with this vs hydrogen fuel cells. I would think the latter has quite a few advantages over this, including efficiency and noise, but maybe those are harder to manufacture?
@EngineeringExplained5 сағат бұрын
Yeah, fuel cell definitely would increase range - as discussed, this is looking at what could be applied with minimal changes to their existing engines.
@streetwind.5 сағат бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained Perhaps you could do a followup video? Range isn't even the thing I wonder about with a fuel cell, but rather if there are practical issues why one would avoid using a fuel cell in this case. Price? Sensitive equipment? Degradation?
@DFPercush3 сағат бұрын
You'd need a pretty sizable fuel cell to produce the same power as a 5 L combustion engine. And since fuel cells use precious metal catalysts, that does mean a significant price tag and probably weight as well. 1 hp = 750 W, so to produce the roughly 350 hp of a 5.6 L v8, you'd need 260 kW of electrical power. That's about 2 Toyota Mirai's worth.
@markmuir73383 сағат бұрын
Fuel cells are exceptionally expensive. To minimize cost they could do the same as the Mirai: use a battery to accommodate peak power, and scale down the fuel cell to meet only the average power consumption. It’s still something like $500k of fuel cell though.
@someone-mn8or2 сағат бұрын
@@markmuir7338 I don't think the intermediate battery trick would help much here. While cars need high peak power to get up to speed and then low power to cruise (which the fuel cell would provide), boats tend to need high power continuously, so you would still need a huge fuel cell
@superjesus43075 сағат бұрын
Hydrogen is the worst possible combustion engine fuel. Its not dense enough to be viable for transport and it can't be made without consuming more energy than we get from burning it or cracking it from hydrocarbons.
@theheadone5 сағат бұрын
Couldn't agree more, anyone with a basic physics understanding should know how bad of an idea hydrogen is for fuel for anything other than fusion. Also, when you get a more advanced understanding of Hydrogen and its interactions, you get things like hydrogen embrittlement, it's just an overall bad time. This is just a marketing stunt.
@Flies2FLL5 сағат бұрын
And it still produces NOX. What marina sells hydrogen?
@B0F4 сағат бұрын
@@Flies2FLLit produces a miniscule amount of NOX, but yeah i doubt it would be feasible to use green hydrogen as a fuel source anytime soon
@Flies2FLL4 сағат бұрын
@@B0F A "minuscule" amount? The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen. What do you think happens when combustion takes place? NOX....
@everythingiswr0ng2 сағат бұрын
true, especially since hidrogen fuel cell exists but for some reason people insist on it going "vroom vroom" 🙄
@schorso2 сағат бұрын
That's actually amazing! If you'd put a fuel cell and a battery on board, you could even produce the hydrogen from sea water!
@sketchyssk8shop4 сағат бұрын
All the leaking gas is easy to deal with. My old 50 year old boat has passive vents that work while under way by scooping fresh air in and another port vacuuming it out. On start up there are electric blowers that force air into the fuel storage area and around the engine to keep the fumes away.
@Meower685 сағат бұрын
Something else you can do to boost the efficiency of the combustion: water injection. In "The Hydrogen World View" by Dr Roger E. Billings, he talks extensively about how hydrogen combustion, burning with a very-high temperature, resulted in significant NOx emissions. To combat this, they injected water into the intake stream which cooled the valves and piston crown (also reducing the probability of backfiring and knocking; direct-injection was much less common back in the 1970s) and also putting an effective lid on the temperatures in the cylinder, quashing the NOx emissions. It also boosted the fuel economy by over 10%. Many World War II-era fighters planes also did water injection, allowing them to go past "100% power" settings for brief periods of time. They frequently had to mix a certain amount of ethanol into the water to keep it from freezing at high altitudes (which frequently have sub-freezing temperatures) but the ethanol content was low enough that it had minimal effect on the performance; it was the water which did the really heavy lifting on that. Hmm. Offshore fishing boat. Engine which produces a lot of heat. Wonder where they could come up with some purified (maybe even distilled) water?
@gsilva2205 сағат бұрын
Fluid propulsion doesnt allow for regenerative braking, so a more efficient engine is better than a fuel cell or series hybrid setup. Electric propulsion on fluids will only take over when we finally eliminate input conversion (plug-in batteries).
@ViniciusNegrao_3 сағат бұрын
1:55 While it's true that it has no emission during combustion, the same can't be said for production on hydrogen plants. Producing hydrogen has a co2 footprint associated with it, abeit some sources points to be half as much as other sources like gas (talking about the whole chain of production, transportation and consumption).
@nlagas3 сағат бұрын
Beyond the video: in summary, synfuels are the way to go
@wengfongcheah5 сағат бұрын
out of all the options i still believe synthetic fuel is the way to go with basically the same things as current fuel goes and no major change required to be done on current engine and infrastructure
@EngineeringExplained4 сағат бұрын
Yep, only real issue with it is cost (and scaling production to our level of use, also a matter of cost).
@bowencreer39223 сағат бұрын
Hydrogen electric should be the future. Such vehicles would have superior range to combustion vehicles. The bonus is that we can use hydrogen infrastructure to also create synthetic gasoline for existing and future combustion vehicles.
@nlagas3 сағат бұрын
@@EngineeringExplainedthat is easier to overcome than somehow packing more hydrogen in a given volume/weight
@DaveBarnes13 сағат бұрын
and it still releases carbon into the atmosphere where it causes great damage. We really need to think about not burning anything if we can help it, and for the most part we can.
@NonDisclosedForObviousReasons2 сағат бұрын
@@bowencreer3922; I'll be honest, I just want engine noises.
@atheplummer4 сағат бұрын
"If you have a problem with one tank, you can isolate it with valves".... That's REALLY funny... Yeah, providing that the problem tank hasn't already exploded and blown the boat into a billion bits. 10,000 PSI? That's crazy to think that the containment of those tanks can be considered 'safe' for public use.
@NvyB5 сағат бұрын
The Japanese has spent bilions and decades on their hydrogen engine for cars and failed miserably; but these geniuses at Yamaha decides to one up them with boat motors? Having a few benefits tends to not weigh out for the thousands of down sides. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should.
@chucky2994920 минут бұрын
Decades? Japanese? i think you're confused, hydrogen fuel cells have been developed since 1839 in Switzerland, and hydrogen combustion studied since 1920s in Germany.
@bernhardjordan92005 сағат бұрын
If is used autogenous pressure to drive the direct injection system the fuel system runs empty at some pressure over 100bar , is like leaving a 1/6 of the tank full
@EngineeringExplained4 сағат бұрын
Correct, discussed this in the video!
@stuartgibson9755Сағат бұрын
Thanks Jason. I'm no engineer, but I always look forward to your whiteboard analyses.
@flickerblip90443 сағат бұрын
Good thing we don't have to worry about corrosion on the high pressure tubing and fittings in a boat...
@siedliko5 сағат бұрын
Semi truck uses about 9 bars in tyres. 100 bars explosions will be something. I hope they reinforce the tanks.
@davidpearman47925 сағат бұрын
I used to work with these tanks a lot. They make a BIG boom. As you would imagine though, they are incredibly sturdy.
@callumcurtis155 сағат бұрын
700 Bar ......😬
@mikehunt89684 сағат бұрын
Normal SCUBA tanks are 300 Bar... so an order of magnitude higher than that...🤔🔥
@joshuagibson25209 минут бұрын
We do way more than that with HPA PCP airguns. 3000 - 4500 is the norm. AEA now has a compressor that will do 7000 psi.
@thebossofbox2 сағат бұрын
if you mix the hydrogen with oxygen you get it in liquid form at room temp and you get extra oxygen in the combustion chamber
@lesliefranklin18702 сағат бұрын
I would be interested in knowing how many times you can cycle the tanks from 100 bar to 700 bar before you have to replace them. This seems even more important as the tank expands and contracts as it is cycled. I wouldn't want a catastrophic failure in a 700 bar tank.
@kornydad145 сағат бұрын
As someone who works on stuff like this everyday as an automotive engineer, I am very skeptical that hydrogen will ever work for anything in the future. The storage issues alone are enough to make it unfeasible. People already have range anxiety with EVs that get 400 miles to a charge. Good luck getting them to accept 50. Also, EVs still have the huge efficiency advantage that a combustion engine will NEVER overcome, as it is physically impossible to match the efficiency of an equivalent electric motor. That's thermal dynamics folks. Plus, as several have said below, as battery tech continues to improve, range anxiety will go away. All the grid worries are nothing but BS from fossil fuel producers our grid is more than equipped to handle it and growing everyday (with the exception of maybe Texas, but they are about to join the national grid). AI is poised to strain electricity demand far more than vehicles in the next decade.
@mthompw4 сағат бұрын
So oil is the most energy packed fuel substance we know of. Currently our grid most certainly can not handle the proposed increased use. Just this year there were a couple of occasions were they had rolling brown outs and told people not to charge their cars. As side note saying battery tech will get better is not a point, you also simply say hydrogen power will get better too.
@mrctuned28444 сағат бұрын
20 year old Honda Insight enters the chat...
@bowencreer39224 сағат бұрын
Lol buddy, you got some catching up to do. Hydrogen cars already exist. Available from major manufacturers like Toyota and Hyundai. Storage is not a problem, and to the extent that it is, it’s no reason not to invest in hydrogen. We have carbon fiber tanks. Look up metal hydrides. They’re like a sponge that holds hydrogen at low pressure. Hydrogen cars have even MUCH more range than even combustion vehicles. Again, this is already reality. I don’t know why anyone ever talks about efficiency when battery vehicles have less range than my 20 year old Corolla and take ten times as long to recharge. That is not efficiency, and that is all that matters. No, grid inadequacies are not big oil propoganda. It is already a real problem. You really don’t know what you’re talking about. Battery vehicles are mediocre and inferior. If we make the effort to invest in hydrogen infrastructure, such vehicles would be vastly superior than anything else, and we can use hydrogen for far more applications.
@svgPhoenix3 сағат бұрын
Automotive engineer my ass, no way an engineer has vocab skills bad enough to use "except" instead of "accept." I'd bet $100 you're a technician.
@mrctuned28443 сағат бұрын
@bowencreer3922 well said sir. If the time and energy being put into battery EV nonsense was put into hydrogen solutions, things would be going in a better direction. I imagine a time in the future where we are on a hydrogen infrastructure, and car companies can offer commuters in a hydrogen fuel cell/electric system, and then a "sports" car using hydrogen internal combustion. So that way us guys that love the sound and feel of IC can still enjoy it, yet there are options for super efficient EV commuters. Kind of like how the market is with gasoline cars currently.
@codedGiraffe35 минут бұрын
The biggest take away is how energy intense traditional boating is. 2mpg translates into roughly ~16kwh/mile meanwhile the electric semis out there are getting ~2kwh/mile while hauling a full load. Roughly 8 times more energy to move a small boat versus a loaded semi
@bigv67243 сағат бұрын
This is great, ford of all companies tried this little over 20 years ago on a super car. Really cool idea and the car looked beautiful.
@JohnAtomics5 сағат бұрын
ADHD is a hell of a drug
@aaronredbaron4 сағат бұрын
That's probably why most of us are here! ...... Oh look, a Squirrel!.....
@clearlistedСағат бұрын
aren't we all so fricking special ey
@jerryrueschhoff18844 сағат бұрын
Thank you! I am pleased to see more of your videos. Keep ‘em coming.
@stevenf9272 сағат бұрын
The big problem is where do you fuel up the boat? There is very little hydrogen infrastructure and even less (if any) where you could bring a boat to (short of trailering the boat).
@samhklmСағат бұрын
This is great for marketing. Buy a gasoline Yamaha outboard today and don't wait on hydrogen one.
@markmonroe7330Сағат бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I guess the sailboat crowd gets the last laugh on this one.
@kensnyder234020 минут бұрын
Another issue could be that any tank defined as high pressure, and I forget the bottom number, requires a hydro test every 5 years. That would be expensive on these tanks, I would imagine.
@snteevveetns5 сағат бұрын
Great video. I’ve always thought hybrid-hydrogen engine. 1L turbo diesel acting as a generator. Electricity from the generator goes to defuse h2o into 2 different tanks (h2 & o). From those tanks both can be injected back into the hydrogen engine. Since you are in a boat, you might have an infinite amount of fuel.
@Phantom-mk4kp4 сағат бұрын
With that pressure it mudt have serious effective compression ratio
@GBOtech-ukraine3 сағат бұрын
Let’s use DME instead of…. working pressure 6-10 bar . LPG infrastructure, ch3Och3 ( no carbon-carbon bonds , hydrogen carrier) . Comparing to pure hydrogen - super cheap and easy scalable
@plainText3843 сағат бұрын
Outside rockets and maybe certain high-speed aircraft applications there seem to be very few cases where hydrogen combution is really desirable over fuel cells. I guess it's kind of cool to see these engineering demonstrations, but I really do wonder why they aren't focusing on the more efficient and promissing technology.
@sketchyssk8shop4 сағат бұрын
Glad to see you excyover a hydrogen engine.
@ajmponchos316 минут бұрын
Hey Jason. Cool video, and it's got me thinking... You briefly hit on the stoichiometric air to fuel ratio being a factor potentially holding back the peak power of a Hydrogen engine, and I was wondering how that might be different if the engine was using pure oxygen instead of air. Obviously that would introduce other engineering challenges, but still I think it's an interesting idea. Taking it one step further, I wonder how difficult it is to actually separate oxygen/nitrogen from air. After a little research, I found that there are membrane separators that seem to work on a sufficient scale, but it was hard to track down any hard data on the power (pressure) required and the flow rates achievable. Lastly, if the math is even relatively favorable, I think it would be really cool to see if you could attach one of these nitrogen separators to a super/turbocharger in an ICE engine and see if it is possible to achieve any efficiency/power/emissions gains using such a setup. Love the channel. Stay frosty.
@ryandoyle43573 сағат бұрын
Is liquified hydrogen storage that challenging? Surely that would be better than relying on 700bar tanks. Have a collector from the liquid tank to catch evaporation, use that for injection
@jondilly19745 сағат бұрын
Couldn’t you simply make the hull a design that creates integrated baffled tanks? As in the hull is the tank? Think of ballast tanks. I know the pressures involved are the challenge here, but there has to be a way to create a hollow honeycomb style design that will be structurally sound for a hull and a tank in one piece.
@mb-3faze4 сағат бұрын
Can you imagine the water pressure at 23000 feet down in the ocean? (Me neither!) That's the water pressure equivalent of the 700bar in those tanks. Twice the depth of the Titanic.
@casaxtreme29522 сағат бұрын
You would actually only need about 300 kWh of battery storage to achieve the same range as the hydrogen solution. If you want hydrogen so badly, why not use a fuel cell, that would increase the range to 150 miles easily with the same storage tanks.
@KurtQuad3 сағат бұрын
I don't see this taking off with all these challenges to overcome. What we need is solid state batteries to finally come to fruition.
@pieflies33 минут бұрын
And some nuclear fusion to go with it.
@toyotaprius795 сағат бұрын
The gap tolerances must be extremely tight to keep the H2 where it's needed
@Cyber_Samurai5 сағат бұрын
How would refueling work?
@EngineeringExplained3 сағат бұрын
Shut-off valve closes off the low pressure regulator, then you simply fill all three tanks simultaneously. You can see the fill port in the animation.
@JT_7713 сағат бұрын
I get doing this just for testing purposes. But burning the H2 is sooo inefficient, which they of course know, so we'll see how much they spend on this one vs the fuel cell version. Still have the same H2 storage issues, but at least you get more out of each pound of H2.
@AustinFerguson5 сағат бұрын
The next 5-7 years as we march closer to 500 wh/kg mass production battery cells - this hydrogen concept becomes less relevant. The volumetric increase to cells will offset the weight penalty and improve packaging and give the 90+% electric motor efficiency a leg up even further. Neat video explaining the bigger picture issues to hydrogen - I recently got to see our test locomotive we have at my tier 1 railroad I work at and the tank sizes and stacks in that engine are stunning to the say the least. There testing this locomotive for local switch jobs along with a BESS / BEV locomotive solution paired with it (hybrid). Good stuff - but even the engineers working on this project mentioned that once batteries eclipse the volumetric requirements it may just change there path entirely. interesting decade ahead of us!
@kornydad145 сағат бұрын
100%
@silvin900015 сағат бұрын
Although hydrogen cars seem pretty dead on arrival, I could see a bit more feasibility with boats, especially large ones. I wonder if the range improves dramatically as you consider boats with much larger abilities to store H2
@bowencreer39223 сағат бұрын
They already exist. From major manufacturers like Toyota and Hyundai. If we just made a little investment in hydrogen infrastructure, we could use it for everything, and have an endless supply of it.
@alvy_._ahmed4 сағат бұрын
My favourite mechanical engineering teacher from 2013 ❤😊
@mby_dk3 сағат бұрын
How are they managing the steering? It looks like the fuel lines are rigid, and I would assume that flex-hose will leak Hydrogen...🤔
@ChadRazorback3 сағат бұрын
I think hybrid motors are still the way to go. The energy density of gas, the efficiency of electric. The engine is strictly used as a generator (similar to an electric train) and is not connected to the drive train at all. They can be pretty efficient if optimized at a certain rpm range for an application like this. Maybe some way to capture the energy lost to heat and also use it to generate more electricity to improve the efficiency even more.
@michaelharrison109358 минут бұрын
The efficiency gains from a hybrid drive are very much related to the application and a road vehicle or train are applications where it makes sense - the vast majority of the time the required power is much less than 10% of the peak power and peak power is used less than 1% of the time. A marine application is very different in this application the power output is essentially always over 50% and here you typically design the vessel to have an optimal cruising speed that you typically aim to always operate at. In this application a hybrid drive adds zero value. Boats applications actually operate a conventional ICE engine much more effectively than in a road vehicle application - this might seem counter intuitive when you hear of fuel efficiency figures like 2 miles per gallon, but this is actually a reflection on just the enormous amount of energy needed to move a planning hull boat through the water - the ICE engine itself is way more efficient under these conditions than when it is operated in a road vehicle and operating on average at less than 10% output
@Angl0sax0nknight5 сағат бұрын
Think using liquid hydrogen would be a better option but with automatic purging. My concern would be leaks because that will happen and hydrogen doesn’t smell so you would never know it.
@Dan-The-Orange5 сағат бұрын
How about a big baloon, that's historically very safe.
@Mr.JimPickensСағат бұрын
How this is not gonna go boom boom in an accident?
@HiTechDiver2 сағат бұрын
From a logistics perspective, hydrogen power is a nightmare. Recharging the hydrogen tanks is going to be as much of a problem, if not worse, than charging an EV. I'm all about new technology, and it has to start somewhere, though I think petroleum is here to stay for a while. On another note, < 20% of a barrel of crude is used to produce fuel. Our lives are full of materials and items made from the rest of the barrel of crude. Where will those items come from if we turn to alternative energy sources.
@azarahwagner27495 сағат бұрын
Oh No thank you… KA-BOOM !
@mrctuned28444 сағат бұрын
How does the BSFC change on hydrogen though? I would assume its much better than a gasoline engine given the properties of using hydrogen in an internal combustion engine. This would improve range, albeit not by a substantial amount.
@EngineeringExplained3 сағат бұрын
In theory it has a slightly higher efficiency potential, but not massive. In practice it's tough to get it competitive currently, as there are challenges with hydrogen having such a low ignition energy (pre-ignition is a difficult challenge).
@Cbartlettbo6 сағат бұрын
So cool!
@FrotLopOfficial2 сағат бұрын
Is there a way to make a tiny water to hydrogen generator that feeds into the tank or injection line somehow? Ah nevermind, hydrogen conversion is power intensive
@commieTerminator3 сағат бұрын
I don't think getting 700 bar H2 for such a short range is gonna be anything close to "cheap"
@shea88304 сағат бұрын
If hydrogen could replace diesel on barges that would actually be a good use case for it
@dropshot19673 сағат бұрын
As long as the majority of hydrogen (over 90%) is produced from methane reforming, there is a CO2 penalty (more CO2 per energy unit using hydrogen vs direct burning the methane)
@EngineeringExplained3 сағат бұрын
Yep, def needs to come from clean sources if it's going to have a meaningful impact. There is a massive green hydrogen plant going up in Georgia, interesting project!
@jebidiahcarlyon35435 сағат бұрын
I want F1 to force this on the whole grid. The older fans seem to think gas V10s are still a good suggestion😮💨
@markuslimseth84265 сағат бұрын
What will be the range be with fuel cell and electric outboard ?
@Fast_Cabbage3 сағат бұрын
No petrol getting in the water is a big plus. Lithium doesn't make sense outside of a diesel generator unit on a massive ship.
@davidlobaugh44902 сағат бұрын
Another reason I'm a Yamaha or die guy.🤠R6 for life. ...also that's a floating explosion and doesn't make sense for a variety of reasons. Cool factor/ R&D goldmine.
@flinxsl2 сағат бұрын
How do you get the hydrogen though? crude oil reformation?
@chillithedog898522 минут бұрын
What I want to know is what pressure does the hydrogen have to be for a kg to fit in a gallon
@clearlistedСағат бұрын
reminds me of that fairbairn skit
@atrumluminarium4 сағат бұрын
Why not ammonia? When liquefied it has 1.5x the hydrogen content of liquid hydrogen at only -33°C and can be easily catalytically decomposed into a combustable hydrogen/ammonia mixture.
@EngineeringExplained4 сағат бұрын
Do you get more energy out of it, than the amount of energy required to convert it to hydrogen? This step almost never works out, especially in small transportation applications.
@UlrichHarms-ci1ov4 сағат бұрын
Ammonia is an option, but amonia is quite toxic in the air and also to marine life. So leaks can be an issue. There is a reason why more refrigurators moved away from amonia to hydrocarbons, even though ammonia generally the more efficient refrigurant. Nor sure if one really needs an extra decomposition stage, it may even burn directly. Ideally one would use a fuel cell and get about 3-4 x the useful energy compared to a combustion engine. So far I don't know of fuel cells that can directly use ammonia however.
@mb-3faze4 сағат бұрын
Hydrogen is massively explosive : instant death. Ammonia is deadly toxic : slow miserable lung dissolving death. Conclusion hydrogen is better.
@atrumluminarium3 сағат бұрын
@UlrichHarms-ci1ov the decomposition is because ammonia needs a bit of a kick before it can combust completely. Normally in the research this is achieved either by an ammonia/LPG mix or by an ammonia/hydrogen mix. The decomposition also allows fuel cell use. Regarding toxicity I get the concern but it would be a good application for a fleet vessel like cargo where the company ensures regular maintenance compared to a private fishing boat. Also considering most run on diesel already, the environment of the combustion in the engine is already very appropriate to use ammonia as a dual fuel. I mentioned it for this project seeing as it's a proof of concept type of vessel.
@atrumluminarium3 сағат бұрын
@@EngineeringExplained the hydrogen part of the mixture is only a small amount because ammonia doesn't readily ignite. So you only need enough hydrogen to initiate. The decomposition of ammonia to hydrogen and nitrogen in the presence of a catalyst, while endothermic has a very low energy barrier to the point where it's considered reversible in atmospheric conditions. That is why the Haber process requires high pressures in order to force the equilibrium to the ammonia side where the number of moles is half. Another (more practical) way to kickstart the combustion of ammonia is to mix it with a hydrocarbon gas like LPG or use it in a diesel multifuel but at that point it's no longer carbon neutral.
@omarek5555 сағат бұрын
Interesting concept and great explanation as always, but i dont see a way how this will ever be practical with combustion
@neondemon51373 сағат бұрын
Remember that Keanu Reeves movie "Chain Reaction"? 💀 JK, this seems like a cool technology, I hope it becomes popular.
@SarahnTuned4 сағат бұрын
Hydrogen combustion! Awesome🫡
@plop313 сағат бұрын
lol
@phillipkrall8853Сағат бұрын
This just feels like a dying gasp from Yamaha. They could have just run the numbers and known it wouldn’t work. I’m not a fan of electric but at least there’s the possibility of a tech break through. Hydrogen’s physical properties aren’t changing. We just can’t afford 26 foot boats with 450 hp anymore. Of course Yami makes all their money from these huge engines.
@GTStrane4 сағат бұрын
Fuel Cell? Increase efficiency with those other optimizations
@WeItenspinner4 сағат бұрын
Still hoping that liquid hydrogen + fuel cell + electric motors will be feasible one day. I wonder if we could build a tank strong enough to store liquid hydrogen without cooling.
@descent82752 сағат бұрын
toyota did something like that. the tank is still HUGE
@abrahamuknow20 минут бұрын
Why not a hydrogen fuel cell powered motor instead of a combustion engine and a solar hydrogen producer to make some extra hydrogen to just lower how much you need to buy to run it
@dav1dbone5 сағат бұрын
A regular gasoline engine can run on H2, anyway considering electric motors are more efficient I'd have thought PEM fuel cells would be the route to explore/invest in?
@manjilpradhananga56782 сағат бұрын
So, if this engine uses compressed hydrogen gas to pressurize the fuel instead of any fuel pumps, how can it pressurize gas into the cylinder in a long run. Because, according to PV=nRT , fuel that is being used the pressure inside the tank decreases and pressure must be decreased accordingly.
@grecoconduris6716Сағат бұрын
Can’t wait for all my friends and family to send me a non-engineering video on this saying something like “see told you hydrogen was the answer”
@wayneallen341929 минут бұрын
I’ll just keep my 115 SHO!
@thomashayes32385 сағат бұрын
Are you forgetting the fact Mazda had the Hydrogen Rotary engine
@EngineeringExplained4 сағат бұрын
That was not an outboard motor; there are numerous examples for automotive use.
@timorgano3 сағат бұрын
I do have to wonder though. If the only thing going in is hydrogen, and we say the only thing coming out is water, that's great. But what about the air that is used in that combustion? With a Nitrogen rich atmosphere, do we not get any NOx emissions from the combustion?
@EngineeringExplained3 сағат бұрын
See whiteboard in the first section - yes, NOx is a part of the emissions, though there are strategies to minimize.
@remander38734 сағат бұрын
How much energy does it take to extract hydrogen from water? Given this is a boat, would it be feasible to refuel from the water you're in as you're traveling? Certainly, there would be energy loss, but could such a mechanism extend the range at all? Or would it not be worth it?
@onemantwohands522436 минут бұрын
Imagine floating on your fuel 😂
@zblurth4 сағат бұрын
Would heating the tank when approaching 100 psi work to increase the pressure or just not worth the energy needed to heat the tank Also safety but it is not because something can be dangerous that it cannot be mitigated
@CJ-nt4cs5 сағат бұрын
What marina can you get h2?
@EngineeringExplained5 сағат бұрын
Chicken and egg for sure - what boat can you buy that's powered by hydrogen combustion? (doesn't exist either).
@ATStone5 сағат бұрын
We can somewhat map this issue to hydrogen cars. We have the cars available. Where's the fuel?
@TamagoHead3 сағат бұрын
I live next to a Toyota Mega Dealer with a Hydrogen station, but am loathe to lease a Mirai. I can home charge a buddy’s Model Y at 6+ kWh/hr, my ICE Toyotas have had such low TCO, that the PHEV is the closest thing I might go with.
@James_Ryan3 сағат бұрын
I'm sure Toyota will be along soon to announce their hydrogen fuel-cell boat... At least that would have decent range and much lower maintenance (one of the biggest expenses in boating) than this design.
@wrezl4996Сағат бұрын
okay but what about hydrogen fuel cells rather than an ICE. i get ICE for enthusiasts cars trying to keep the engine alive but something like this i feel like a hydrogen fuel cell would be more efficient.
@robdgonz3 сағат бұрын
10K PSI!??? You don't need a motor. Just a little hole in the back the pressure will push you along just fine.
@matej63572 сағат бұрын
It's almost as if for all these applications and all the people talking about it they alwyas seem to forget about the process required to make the hydrogen fuel.
@christophenglert4831Сағат бұрын
i dont get why they havent combined those tanks with a fuel cell instead the engine. does this motor load shift THAT often
@BarbaraEvans-n9p6 сағат бұрын
Every video on your channel is a little work of art. I look forward to the new episodes!♥️🏚🌸
@UltiMogr2 минут бұрын
stoixiometric is stee-hee-o-metric. There is no "o" in there.
@Js_Son8351 минут бұрын
Is hydrogen water? If so, can't you use the ocean water to refill the hydrogen? Like somehow, get the ocean water, clean it, filter it, and everything else, then convert it into hydrogen? If this is possible, you can have unlimited fuel. I dont know maybe these is impossible. But I watched a video somewhere some Japanese scientists invented rechargeable/interchangeable hydrogen cells that portable.
@Mostafa-vs8bd2 сағат бұрын
Hello Why not instal modern sails on cargo ships to help the engine and reduce fuel consumption and emisions ? For thousands of years we are using them.
@jost47863 сағат бұрын
Fuel cell would be a much better choice
@CG-yh6jsСағат бұрын
I loooooooove Yamaha. But hydrogen internal combustion engines are a conundrum. I think maybe an hydrogen turbine would be better.
@temeriusrotus56216 сағат бұрын
WoW !!!
@Cybertruck_695 сағат бұрын
What are they going to call it? A Pinto?
@ETCJPACE3 сағат бұрын
Seadoo is next.
@zoli575 сағат бұрын
Who wants to sit on hydrogen tanks pressurized to 700 bars?
@Redmongoose-rdm4 сағат бұрын
I don't mind.
@CrashLarue4 сағат бұрын
Blimps of old come to mind. 💥🔥
@mb-3faze4 сағат бұрын
Idiots?
@WeItenspinner4 сағат бұрын
I like speed, high tech and don't care about my own survival. So yeah, me. :)
@MrLocao32i4 сағат бұрын
Me :)
@zohircherifi56165 сағат бұрын
Could this Engine make it to automobiles
@Meower685 сағат бұрын
Pretty sure EE also has a video about a hydrogen-powered race car, using hydrogen combustion. Wanna say that was a Honda. Assuming you could store enough fuel, yes, a car could (most definitely) be run on hydrogen combustion. Dr Roger E Billings drove a hydrogen-powered Cadillac in Jimmy Carter's inauguration parade (1977). That was after driving a hydrogen-powered Volkswagen in a collegiate competition. He talks about it in a book titled "The Hydrogen World View."
@Squat50004 сағат бұрын
Yay more expensive solutions to problems that don't exist!