The WORST Designed Champions In League of Legends

[@ignacioperez5479]

Assasins: requires a Lot of gold Also assasins: serrated dirk power spike

[@ibrahim5463]

Dude the only expensive assassin iteam is profane

[@ignacioperez5479]

@@ibrahim5463 and Even that is only to stop non-lethality champs from using it, since it's on the same price range than the other hydras

[@dominiorrr6510]

Why would assassins require a lot of gold?

[@ignacioperez5479]

@@dominiorrr6510 vars said it in the video. His words, not mine. Thats exactly why this came to My mind

[@dominiorrr6510]

​@@ignacioperez5479 Yeah, but that's a weird thing to say when assassins have the cheapest items besides supports.

[@WholeGrainMeatloaf]

I've got personal beef with K'sante because Riot advertised me a "high-skill tank" and then handed me a bruiser that gets to build tank items

[@williammatkins6348]

Ima Ksante main and yeah I agree. They took away all of his “high skill” with the W changes

[@WholeGrainMeatloaf]

well my point is he isn't actually a tank, but you're right- his skill expression is also suffering in their attempt to reign in the nightmare they created

[@jose91807]

He was a high-skill tank but he had many changes

[@jose91807]

@@williammatkins6348 And flash, and maintaining the q stacks after using R

[@hoaxygen]

He's a tank-assassin when he ults. You can't kill him but you also can't move while he takes you down. So interactive and playable. Incredible champion design all around 🙄

[@eXecu7or]

This is K'Sante, a champion with 4,700 HP, 329 Armor, and 201 MR, has Unstoppable, a Shield, and goes over walls. Has Airborne, and the cooldown is only 1 second too. It costs 15 Mana. The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms. He has true damage on his passive. Then, when he stacks Armor and MR, he gets Ability Haste too, Ability Haste to his Q, and his spell casting speeds up. Then, he has an AD ratio, so his W…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@sethb3090]

This is K'Sante, all his stats give you other stats and his abilities are designed not to actually need all those stats but he gets them anyway

[@GameBreaker1055]

I still wonder who thought that a champ that gets offensice stats by building defensive ones is a good idea... He is to tanky to take down when he does not want to fight you and he then stat-checks you offensively when he wants to.

[@swiftysnail9053]

체력 4700 방어력 329 마저201 인 챔피언👤이 저지불가🚫, 쉴드🛡, 벽🧱 넘기는 거 있고요. 에어본🌪 있고, 심지어 쿨타임은 1️⃣초밖에 안되고 마나🧙‍♂️는 1️⃣5️⃣ 들고 w는 심지어 변신💫하면 쿨 초기화에다가 패시브는 고정피해🗡가 들어가며 그 다음에 방마저🥋 올리면📈 올릴수록📈 스킬 가속⏰이 생기고! q에 스킬가속⏰이 생기고 스킬 속도🚀가 빨라지고📈 그 다음에 공격력🗡 계수가 있어가지고 W가 그 이익-으아아아악😱😱---

[@TAWMUD]

Is this K’sante in the room with us right now?

[@eXecu7or]

@@TAWMUD have you watched the G2 vs SKT series?

[@AshBlossomWorshiper]

If everyone is 200 years, no one is 200 years

[@nicholasavasthi9879]

Ah, the DOTA school of balance

[@cloudynguyen6527]

@@nicholasavasthi9879 DOTA 2 has the resource to rework every single hero in their game to the point that if you stop playing DOTA 2 before 7.00 and got back to the game at this point, you'll realize how different every hero play. My problem with League is that it admits the game has power creep but Riot doesn't have the resource to update every champions. We'll be lucky to have at max 2 reworks per year while they keep churning out 4 new champions every year.

[@hoaxygen]

I wish they all were 200 years, but some champions feel like 2000 years for no good reason.

[@ravenoushydra7948]

I miss old league

[@ucinhnhu7544]

"your super power cant be that you have every super power" yeah tell that to Kaisa

[@alkobone5764]

Kaisa has poor range if we are being honest and her mobility is nothing like zeri Kaisa is more like better vayne Like belveth and master yi

[@lillyie]

kai'sa is balanced by the fact she can't have all of them at once if you go for onhit/crit your W and Q won't hurt as much. if you for full AP your W will hurt but that's really all the damage you have. you have to choose

[@mete8901]

@@lillyiewhat do you mean you can’t have all 3? You can go basic crit or on hit and just buy zhonya or nashor and you have the upgrade

[@tenderandmoist5011]

Kai'sa's one and only weakness is her low auto range, which would be a problem if she didn't have a full-screen undodgable nuke and an invis + speed buff + steroid in 1 basic ability

[@melindasteinle-holder9514]

​@@lillyie on-hit build gives her all 3 tho. Kraken, Rageblade, Nashor, Blade and maybe terminus or whatever and she has all 3.

[@sortilien2099]

The shyvana issue is you feel punished in human form.

[@realantagonist5324]

Elise is the same way. The web is the only useful human form ability before late game.

[@Diopside.]

@@realantagonist5324 u are so wrong, it's just hilarious to read.

[@theshadynorwegian6036]

@@realantagonist5324 Elise has a flowing combo to her kit. she's built with an intuitive combo from human to spider, and once her burst combo ends she's in her spider form which has more dps and movespeed. I agree that her spider into human feels bad, but her human form does have a clear purpose.

[@tuanatnguyen1900]

True tho. Also if you building ap then without ult you're just a more dmg caster creep.

[@Diopside.]

@@theshadynorwegian6036 Correct answer, +1

[@Mizticall]

I think a big flaw in Shyvana is that she is literally USELESS without ult. I know she's still pretty terrible when she's in dragon form but at least she can throw big AOE explosions at people and do damage with those if she's fed. When she's in human form she literally does nothing at all to the point where I genuinely see her as a troll pick

[@thejedisonic67]

Vayne is certainly up there. She's supposed to be the ad carry you pick against tankier comps, but the problem is and always will be the fact that she's a ranged champion that can do max% health true damage on her autos. So now this specified anti tank champion turns into anti anything, especially with other parts of her kit like her ult making her invisible, hence untargetable. If I were to rework her, either the max % health true damage is replaced outright, or it only comes up when she ults for a few seconds. Id replace it with a W that still does the 3 auto procs, but one that deals more damage to targets with more health than Vayne or something.

[@merdricon]

I agree, all the "tank shredding" % hp damage in the game should be centered around bonus HP, NOT max HP

[@Heightren]

MaxHP% and True Damage should be mutually exclusive, so that a Tank can itemize armor against MaxHP% and HP vs True Damage

[@julianosoares6684]

Her W is Just uncounterable, only option is preventing her from AAing or Killing her fast enough, such an annoying champ

[@yorhaunit21o32]

She’s short range. Easily killed by burst and mages. Adc’s can kill her simply by staying well out of range while their support locks them down. It’s not vaynes fault ur bad.

[@GameBreaker1055]

@@yorhaunit21o32 Right, ADCs can just stay out of hte range of the marksman that moves faster towards them than they can run from her and also has a low CD dash that turns her invisible and with that close to untargetable for ADCs!

[@lotion5238]

I think League of Legends is poorly designed IMO Edit: This was more of a joke, because this game has a lot of nuance and I compare it often to chess with the "board" (summoners rift) and how while you can change characters it's always the same board. But I dislike how they're homogenizing the new content and it's making it less fun to play over time.

[@researchbashio]

The game is ass

[@theSafetyCar]

Elaborate?

[@jackpino-wn8bu]

It wouldn’t be this addicting

[@MarcNSmith]

You don’t need to say ‘I think’ and ‘IMO’… they literally mean the same thing?

[@Xinxax]

Mobile Legends Bang Bang is better designed, but still have issues of its own Doesnt mean its as flawed as a game where an assassin/skirmisher could 1v5 with 1 item

[@astormight1149]

the worst thing for pyke I think it's that you can't trade with him. You catch him, he can W and/or E so you can't chase him, waite 8 seconds to recover his CD and due to his passive gets back full life. Moreover as he takes advantage of the lethality support item, the little amount of ward you can put before he spawns on you because he was hiding nowhere, he can take them off with one AA without even having to use his trinket. As a support player it is very fustrating to play against a champion that can just do more things that you do, because riot allowed them to do so. It's not like pyke doesn't have any counter. It's just that the only way is ignoring him and hoping that none of your teammates would be low life if you don't want to give him a penta.

[@DavidGlendaleArdenaso]

I really dislike how Sejuani W deals physical damage, prevents her from doing basic attacks, and uses her weapon - but scales with ability power (besides health)

[@heidtb6746]

To be fair in that specific case... She usually builds neither AD nor AP

[@DavidGlendaleArdenaso]

@@heidtb6746 no but imagine shojin or black cleaver with her

[@juuchanIRL]

whoever made yuumi should feel ashamed forever.

[@JackiEEEEEEE]

Blue archive music goes hard

[@josefarias5216]

I hate that Riot finally did it, they made Tank Yasuo, and is just as frustrating as the windsh*tters if not more

[@AlryFireBlade]

To Pyke (yes with Y, its wrong in the chapters): I will never understand, who thought putting the most not supportive playstyle of support on a suupport champion, on the lane where his number 1 targets are, was a good idea. He is so frustrating to play against. It is even hard to poke hhiim out of lane due to his passiv. and high base HP. Then he even gernate gold. Make him a Mid Laner and I would still hhate him for beeing ann assassin, but at least, he is where he should belong.

[@TheAngelRaven]

Champions like Lux, Senna, and Pyke are prime examples of 'Designed for Support, but clearly not'. Senna is just an ADC that GENUINELY scales, Pyke was gone over, and Lux is just a Midlane mage that someone at Riot gets their rocks off to whenever they make sure she gets a buff she had zero need for.

[@heidtb6746]

Sometimes, the Meta for support completely shifts from "i can help my ADC" to "I don't need much gold to carry"

[@maxschnell3658]

just take sennas healing on q away and the support problem is fixed

[@wallachia4797]

Lux was never "designed for support" lmao. Shitters tend to play her on "support" because of the CC, but she isn't nor was ever intended to be a supp champ.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Lux was never designed for support and the role of a support is to help the team which pyke and senna absolutely do

[@Dragonoid269]

@@baptistecochennec5956 Arguably any champion can help the team though, that is an extremely low standard to set. Maybe you can exclude champs like Yi and Shyvanna with that standard, but practically all tanks, bruisers and mages have some form of cc they can use to help the team (though some would argue death is the best cc in the game and in that term master Yi can work too).

[@moobo3944]

I mean you made a video about her only 10 days ago. Bel Veth. She is such a nothing addition to the game and her gameplay does not match her fantasy at all. She's the only champion where if she were to receive a rework I would want every single ability scrapped and done over.

[@cloudynguyen6527]

True. I feel like Yorick is the best inspiration if they want to remake Bel'veth. When I look at Bel'veth, I'm thinking of Nature Prophet from DOTA 2 who would spawn fuck ton of walking trees to sneakily push while aslo has variety of tools to get in and out of the fight. Or Abarthur in HOTS though I wouldn't mind if they don't take inspiration from him. I really really despise Abarthus... it's like Yuumi but more volatile and safe.

[@ldalexandrite]

@@cloudynguyen6527 but riot games do not allow actually creative champs becsuse that would require them to come up with actually creative counters.

[@MostMoba]

... We get fucking autoataker in year 2023. She has aoe cc, 4 dashes dmg mitigation true dmg and infinity atck speed. Btw she still not really good since this is one of examples where you actually CAN kait champion that supposed to be kited. You can't kite Darius or Garen. You CAN'T kite WW or Udir. Another point that bel with only 2 items can make your tank with 2 items 100-0% in just 3-4 seconds, if she can hit, and this is not K'sante. I play her if get JG. More often i play kayle. A good example of design. She actually works as her concept declare. Powerful late weak early. And fucking suck to champion with same idea ( fuck this dog, why his 3 so broken with -90% move and atk spd).

[@trash4484]

Now we also got hwei that is literally nothing new to the game. They wanted to make some invoker wannabe by copying Merlin from Smite but managed to make second lux with 0 counterplay and infinite spam with no mana costs.

[@metalmichew2]

I feel like illaoi can be easily changed to become a support, make the slow on E higher(also her tentacles hits can become a stun) way less damage on tentacles hits and make her ult like an ori ult kinda swipe of a tentacle, i think that could be hella fun

[@HuyNguyen-jl7go]

Free tentacles yum

[@hunterkinsella5303]

Shyvana is definitely volatile in gameplay. I don't much appreciate getting hit with the damage of a max distance nidalee spear at full build... During laning phase with a 1 1/2 item ap shyv.

[@marethyuplays544]

I’m so sad with everything around zeri, she is so fun to play, but due to the things mentioned she is too strong a lot of the time. I loved her old passive, it gave some counter to shield heavy teams, but since that was on top of all the other stuff, they got rid of it…😢

[@a5tr4l]

Wasn’t expecting to hear Blue Archive music in the background

[@rootin5851]

Well, maybe it's that notable in League only cause Tyrande exists and she is nice "assasin support" but also she's ranged , so no crazy dive combos like pyke does, only good old healing , which comes of cooldown faster if she's on offensive, plus mark what shreds targets armour making even tanks to retreat.

[@vincvids7297]

the pain in his scream was so real

[@Dat_Vi]

I thought I left my Blue Archive on and was confused lol

[@nTu4Ka]

Illaoi can be a cool zoning bruiser if they rework her R. Something like Camile's ult + big tentacles spapping that you need to dodge. Currently she's just a disengage champ with big cooldown.

[@muratemreyurdalan2734]

Rito can design a champion with very simple individual skills but when those skills are combined the gameplay of a champion can be complex and fun. i.e. Jax, mundo, amumu, trundle. We dont want 3 paragraphs long skills. We need simple champions with a unique identity

[@habu9344]

As a pyke one trick since for the last 3 years I really think he needs to just be reworked into a midlaner or jungler. They could actually make him a semi-healthy champion for the game if this was the case.

[@average_potato]

I honestly think Zeri's dash is fine. Cause thats her only mobility except her ult in which u just gain speed and not even a significant amount. Its easy for people to gap close on you. And if u need to use your e to dodge a skillshot then its on a very long cooldown. Can be used offensively and defensively. Every other battle mage as u said has some very good gap closers and combat mobility. Kalista has her passive vayne her q with a low cd and also damage amplification and even other marksmen with similar gameplay like samira and Nilah have very good combat mobility and gap closers. Zeri has no gap closer. Her dash is way too short for that. And has a way too long cd. So she will just get poked to death since most other edcs havesuperior range. So a good compensation for long cd and short range is what she got rn

[@Scrap_]

I love Shyvana I'm really hoping for a good rework for her, I don't think Riot will do it but I'd love to see her as a half dragon the same way Corrin from Fire Emblem is, stretchy dragon stabs would be cool.

[@iapetes1]

Also zeri, the second problem is dead on but the first 'problem' is nonexistent. Being a caster adc doesn't mean you have to be mid game only. It's input, how you play, not output, what you can do. Smolder is an ad caster late game character too Zeris entire problem is that her whole identity is wrapped up in way too high mobility

[@Qorani_VT]

I agree that I want a Shyvana rework since she's one of my highest mastery characters, but the Skarner rework hasn't given me much hope at all... I'd almost rather her stay slightly suboptimal than give her the 200 years treatment, make her play completely differently, and then need several balance changes to make her playable... Or like the TF one where it works for the pros for like, 3 weeks before basically nothing changes in the grand scheme of things. On top of the Riot Special (TM), which means she'll get one or two problematic abilities that'll just put her in the top 5 of picks and bans for 2-3 different roles. I just don't have much faith in the rework team at this point.

[@tristan6773]

I have an idea for shyvana rework let her be a rampaging melee tank. dragon form is tied to a FURY stacks she progressively gains her form by attacking minims/ monsters or taking damage or hitting spells on enemy champs fury fall off out of combat and she gains stats as she progresses into dragon form. health armor etc. her ult consumes all fury, explodes the dragon + heal. abilities get empowered as fury builds, but doesn’t consume fury. this is what I wanted smolder to be too. and his design fits the theme better cause he could just grow naturally in size to show his fury

[@firesong7825]

The auto-generated chapters: Alla, Shyana, Pike, Zary, Kante

[@StonedDragons]

I would have to say a carry support isn't new, be it in an assassin form is given how often Brand is played support, you might even throw Lux into there as well. The problem I see is that they deliberately nerf into the ground any other support who looks capable of carrying, take a look at Sona's AP ratios being nuked into the ground so she can't mid for instance despite never being the issue Pyke Mid was. That riot has chosen one role and said 'thou shalt never carry' instead of finding a better way to allow any support to keep up in gold and do so... Even the current busted support items not quite closing that gap.

[@muratemreyurdalan2734]

champion skills used to be 3 words long. now they are 3 paragraphs long. a casual player would never read aphelios' or huawei's skill details

[@Tiagocf2]

Illaoi is really well made tbh, her kit is so well made that it doesn't fit league 200 years and frenetic gameplay. Aside from her E, the rest of her kit is fine, she does lots of damage but her abilities have lots of windup so you can foresee and dodge it, her full combo Q + E + R + W takes more than 2 seconds to fire just because of windups lol But that strenght is also her main problem because League is too fast and a slow champion doesn't really have a place.

[@Tiagocf2]

@FaceFish9 bro i literally said "aside from her E"

[@Tomardes]

@FaceFish9 but it isnt true at all. She can delete ranged or really squishy toplaners with it even early for sure, but she absolutely cant do the same to many other top lane champs. Quite often you obliged to press ult to do it (and most of the time enemy just make 2 mach speed move to get rid of your tether and just reingage, while you almost defenceless.) Illaoi is a pure skillcheck champion (both for the one who plays her and who plays against). Oh, and yeah, if you missed E - you screwed. If you got CCed during E - you screwed, cause you will not deal enough damage, unless you have a really really big lead.

[@astronebula858]

It's a crime that this channel doesn't have a million subscribers.

[@MinhucVoPham]

Never thought i would hear a blue archive ost on a league video

[@jespereriksson3305]

Assassins require alot of gold, 5 carries instead of 4 and one support etc. Mage supports meanwhile:

[@Zorplex.Gaming]

T1 would have other things to say about Illaoi

[@mrfabian2555]

I understand that pyke breaks rules but i think its not that bad. He punishes mistakes realy hard and i see no problem in it. If he dont gets ahead he is pritty weak. And playing him is one of the best experiences in league, playing as a feed pyke is just incredible enjoyable.

[@nicholasfigueiredo3171]

I think it is a good list. I actually loved Zeri when she was heavily nerfed just before the rework that changed her ult/passive/range etc. It was the fantasy of mosquito biting them until they were dead because your damage was so low. It was the most fun champion I played in league. Now she just plays like samira where you jump use everything and burst people that's not that fun ;/ Before she was like a mix of ashe/ezreal

[@lillyie]

the thing they didn't account for ksante was he still had tank passives while in all out form. not only you gain damage and omnivamp, you also had the burst and hp stacking from heartsteel, burn of sunfire cape, crit reduction of randuin's in case there's a fed adc in the enemy, pretty much negating the downside of losing hp, armor and magic resist from going all out.

[@PowerEd8]

9:26, interesting Haven't heard that term used before, adc/marksmen that stick it to the man, battle marksmen, sounds cool Swain and Vlad are what i consider the best examples of "Battlemages", Rio also considerers Anivia and Karthus to be ones too, maybe cuz of thier passives? cuz i thought battlemages are tankier than "regular" ones ( don't even know what Ryze is anymore, he used to be a prime example of battlemage with Desperate power and later his Rune shield ) Why hasn't Riot named any sub classes for ADC? they are too few?,

[@ilijaobradovic7636]

Do you notice how all of this champs are mundo counters XDXD?

[@Hoibz]

I agree with your list, but I would add Naafiri to it. She has permanent triple green shells from Mario Kart around her, making non-aoe skillshot essentially useless vs her. The least enjoyable hard counter.

[@zucchini2339]

How do you make a champion who punishes lack of “motion” have a playstyle of standing still

[@yuanlee2093]

Corki's 12 Polygons

[@thejedisonic67]

A design so bad and toxic that they're undoing his rework, very few champion rework are just undone like that. GG riot

[@Culturedknight]

I wish riot would stop makeing the enemy minions be my biggest weakness Just let me 1 shot my enemy laner as zoe by letting my z go through the minions cmon

[@joshuaminnich3896]

noooooo dont mess with my shyvana i love her the way she is

[@v1pogio118]

the fun thing is that ksante is getting buffed

[@roipipi5898]

worst design of all time, aatrox ksante fiora, akali, camille, akshan, zeri, smolder, nafiri, briar, yuumi(can we even call this "design"), yone, ryze

[@Stocky39]

I just hope when shyv finally gets her rework that the stupid full AP build gets deleted entirely. I hate that the big strong looking dragon plays like a poke mage. It also has the tendency to feel either extremely useless or actually unbeatable with how much range/zone control she gets to dish out insane burst damage. Such a frustrating build to play against

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

Illaoi is such a... sad champion. The thing is: Every looks and feels good about her. Her tentacle mechanic, her unique niche as a sieging juggernaut, the weight of her animations, uniqueness of her E and her R feels very juggernauty if nothing else - and more tentacles, thats great. But she is such a broken mess of a champ regardless. Probably the worst lanebully to face. She definitely needs an update, likely a midscope or full gameplay rework... but its difficult. The niche of siege is pretty damn negligible these days. Her R is probably a good skill to do work on, I feel it is the weakest part of her kit - but that doesnt really touch her laning oppressiveness.

[@Dragonoid269]

-Illaoi is mostly just worse Darius. I heavily prefer facing her over Darius as she doesn't punish 1v1 mistakes nearly as badly (I don't main top and usually get dunked on by Darius unless I can counter pick it with something like Ahri top, I don't expect to kill her but I can lane against Illaoi though). I guess I can agree that Illaoi has a bad design on some level as it simply doesn't do much in higher elo play due to her counterplay being somewhat easy. -Shyvana is indeed somewhat boring with a tank or ad item set (though doesn't do anything that is inherently bad for the game), but full ap is actually pretty fun and unique. I also liked going full ap on Sejuani and irelia before they got reworked though (and I still do full ap on kog maw and mf), so you can argue I like to play weird kits like that. -Pyke you could argue is a necessary evil, or you could argue it is bad design. You can argue games are more fun with a tanky front liner in top and jungle and an enchanter support, but that makes people turned off from playing those roles. After the solo lane nerfs he's mostly doing what he was to designed to bring to the game, thus whether you think it is badly designed mostly depends on whether you are fundamentally against Riot's idea of making an assasin support. (imo I'd place Senna on this list before Pyke purely because a few Senna support can 3HKO someone with huge range aa's which just doesn't seem like a good design when all other champ that can hit you with that damage from such a range need to hit several skillshots to do so) -Zeri does indeed screw around with the item system a lot. It's like Ezreal in that regard (how many items have been broken on Ezreal in the past?). After the large time it took Riot to tweak her she seems ok now though. -K'Santa is a pretty messed up design, practically everyone seems to agree on that one I think :)

[@bradyseigfried2395]

Next 5 predicitons: Rell, Ryze, Nilah, Yone, Samira

[@shanecoffing]

Riot already perfected what tanks should be with poppy and orrn. Capable of good damage but still skill expressive, CAN build some damage when ahead but still ultimately tanks for the team. Abominations like ksante need to be turboweak for the game to function properly. If ksante got to have decent base stats and ratios than he would be the best champ in the game full stop. I'm an old player, so forgive me if yall dont remeber but the single most broken meta the game has ever seen was tank ekko. He could quite literally 1 vs 5 with two items because he had all the mobility and damage of an assasin building tank items. Sound familiar. They made tank ekko a champion. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@j.a.velarde5901]

Sadly, Riot doesn't give two flying f***ks... they just keep making money at our expense.

[@genryu13]

I personally think that Pyke himself isn't the issue, but the support role as a whole is pigeon holed into a specific idea which just so happens to becomes synonymous with 'lack of agency.' There is a reason support has always been one of the most disliked roles, and it is specifically because it cannot excel without costing the rest of the team what they need or warping the meta, like the Ardent Censer meta. ADCs need gold to stay relevant, especially nowadays where they literally can't contribute in any way if they don't get ahead since everyone can take objectives now and everyone can fast push waves. Any time a support takes a kill, that was gold that could allow the ADC to stay afloat, which is one of the reasons why ADCs are one of the most volatile teammates you get in Solo Queue. I think Pyke actually answers a lot of the problems the support role has, which is a support who carries a form of agency but not at the cost of his ADC's agency. Most ADCs (who aren't obsessed with something as mundane as their KDA) are only upset because the kill gold is granted to the support, but they'd have little reason to complain if somehow the kill gold was given to them. An idea might be that when supports buy their gold generation item, they pick a champion and bind themselves to that champion, like Knight's Vow. While they are bound in this way to an ADC, if they are about to kill an enemy champion they grant the kill gold to the bound ADC (think like the support items that let them execute minions to grant their ADCs gold). You can them balance damage supports by granting them some form of bonus gold on the kill. You could then remove the bonus gold Pyke gives with his ultimate, cause it would then be bound to the support item, which would fix the whole issue Riot has with Pyke going to other lanes aside from bot. If need be, you could also include something to help distinct the champions that like to go damage support like Brand, Vel'Koz, and Zyra from their role in mid, like maybe adding some sort of damage modification to this support item, like maybe making it where all damage you deal while you have this item in your inventory is reduced to 90% or something like that, so that those champions don't get nerfed in the mid lane for shenanigans their bot lane counterparts are up to. Damage supports would have an actual place in bot lane rather than just being a sort of forced inclusion that is trying to compete with their ADC rather than compliment them, and you'd have a lever by which to adjust them as a whole if they get a bit out of hand, like adjusting the damage adjustment of their from 90% to 85% or something. This could just be a garbage take, but it's my two cents.

[@crazzluz1702]

Your point about Zeri's range is straight up misinformation, her Q is a skillshot so distance is calculated model center-to-center, while AA range is calculated model edge-to-edge. Her range pre-nerf was roughly comparable to 575 AA range, and now it's roughly comparable to 525. You can test this pretty easily. Go into a custom with a friend, have them pick a 550 range ADC. Have them right click you so they walk up to max range and auto, and try to Q them back without moving. You can't. You can even see it in the video, she's hitting the turret with 3 of the 7 bullets only, not even half of her auto attack.

[@schmittywobberganggermanson]

Illaoi in my opinion is the most balanced champ right now. If you miss an ability you straight up lose if you hit all of your abilities you're basically 1v9. Unlike Irelia Yone or Gwen who misses everything but will kill you with auto attacks that has true damage crit AD and AP. And also there is Garen 👍.

[@gordonfreeman98]

I just hate Zeri's weird boots that are clearly a dumb fanservice and makes absolute no sense for a Piltover/Zaun character

[@gerutzu575]

if there's 1 champion that should get deleted from the game it's ksante. as much as yuumi literally isn't playing the same game the other 9 people are playing, ksane is somehow even worse on this regard. the fact that the guy who created him got fired speaks volumes, at this point the only thing they can do is nerf him into oblivion and forget about him, but for some reason they are refusing to do anything

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

imma stop you right there, Illaoi is a great champion. her only problem is that her E is the worst ability ever made. if her E was a simple hook she would be great.

[@kfk4441]

I can't wait for the next 200yrs champ to come out so my enchanters get nerfed because they made them even more op

[@metetekin6437]

bro really put pyke to this list omg

[@MajimaEnjoyer]

most champs are designed to be beginner friendly, This would help new players to have longer game engagement than other more mechanically difficult champs, For example. Warwick is very easy to learn and has early advantage scaling with his AD. The issue with this is that people who know how to play the game and have been playing it for years, The pro players take advantage of this.. What was a champ for new players gets abused by pro players;

[@nicklasveva]

Just the fact that Illaoi can take 45% of your health with her max rank E with zero risk proves that she should not exist. And it can do even more damage because the %health scales with AD. You can't retaliate against her E. Since she does at least 25% more damage if she hits both you and your spirit. She usually has tentacles, so it's even more dangerous. If you don't do anything while just trying to farm she will poke you down until you're dead with it. The only thing you can do against her when her E or R aren't up is to try and one shot her. It can be done while she uses her R, but usually she just ends up staying at 5% health for the entire fight and she kills everyone trying to kill her.

[@CalypsoTheWanderingStar]

Tbh, as an Illaoi main, I feel like they need to give her the Diana treatment and make the e her ult and vice versa and tweak/rebalance her around that

[@trentmarsh3752]

As a Illaoi main myself, i think she has a perfect cohesive kit that is hard to find in League

[@CalypsoTheWanderingStar]

@@trentmarsh3752 oh ya no I agree, she's a ton of fun, have mained her since release and have over 1.1 million mp on her. I'd just wish she could brawl more than sit back and poke, or that I wasn't as reliant as sitting in one place without anyways to actually keep people close to me ya know?

[@MartialArtsForY]

as a masters top laner who plays as and against her fairly often, her e and ulty need to be changed. Q and W are fine as well as her passive but he E eats up far too much of her power budget and her ulty will never be an "ultimate" without her e. Change it up and she will be vastly fairer to play against and can have strength put into her kit elsewhere.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

​@@trentmarsh3752her kit is cohevise nobody said otherwise it's just not fun to play agaisnt and VERY match-up dependant

[@Invisius1]

the biggest thing that has to happen to illaoi, is that the tentacles should not continue with the hit, if you kill them mid swing. So stupid to kill it, and suddenly you lose 20% as your health as a squishy to a literal ghost.

[@owenryland1409]

Vlad main here - I get why people dont like him but wonder why he is lazy design? I find his passive really fun as you get massive hp late game and its really satisfying

[@baptistecochennec5956]

He is just farming and regen hp till you can run down people that's not really creative or interactive

[@Zeri_is_Waifu]

Zeri in wild rift is peak design

[@doctornoodlearms1770]

What a champion can't do > what a champion can do

[@lee-cl8td]

If Ksante wasn't his first and second defining characteristic, he'd be balanced. Not to be that guy ofc.

[@eli2210]

Have you ever played Vainglory?? There was a lot of similarities between the games but I honestly liked that game a bit more than league. I reached that games “challenger” equivalent and I thought it was fun before the 5v5 update that killed it. There were some mechanics and characters I wish were in league. Dodging was one ability mechanic to two characters one named Taka where he flips over a target either minion, champion or turret and during that he dodged all cc and damage. If used too early you wouldn’t be able to escape but used too late you’d be dead so it was always cool timing it perfectly. It was fun honestly. There was also Unstoppable as a passive to on character where he is immune to all cc (except silence) but he was always slowed no matter what when he would get cced. So it f you tried stunning him, you’d just slow him. He also had a stun on his Q but would only stun at full level up rank and before it would only slow. Certain abilities would only be enhanced if they were fully ranked so you’d have to choose which one you wanted fully maxed. There was 3 abilities 2 being your regular and ult. Some games you’d want one or the other regular maxed or both at the cost of a less powerful ult. There was also fortified health where while fighting you would get extra defensive health that falls off if you stopped fighting making commitments valuable otherwise you’d just die. It would activate only if you fought not if you take damage. It was a bit broken sometimes ngl though. I miss that game

[@bobyhappy2992]

I tried to play Zeri I like the idea of an ADC that overload auto-attacks to turn them into little lightning chains but the scaling felt meh also spamming the q to auto-attack is a big no unless riot offers new Q keys once mine will be destroyed for clicking on it too much I also completely forget about her charged normal attack/ability shit...that's confusing as hell to me Zeri is a wannabe Jinx I feel Jinx is able to give me that overload feeling way better than Zeri :/ Zeri is just the little sister that tries to copy

[@spookyface4304]

I genuinely think smolder is the worst designed champion in the game because they had JUST made the balance nightmere mistake with the asol rework and had just got him somewhat stable so they make THE EXACT SAME MISTAKE BUT WORSE to where it is not only viable but meta for smolder to build unironically almost every item at the same time. With asol hes limited to ap smolder can build crit, on hit, bruiser, ap, lethality, tank at the same time and it works

[@spookyface4304]

@FaceFish9 most champions released had horrible win rates except smolder who started high and only went up. Because his reward for what is point and click viegar with mobility is far too high.

[@spookyface4304]

@FaceFish9 that is true, tbh I would hate him FAR less if they had the balls to either make his q not proc in hit and or removed ap synergy and then balanced accordingly

[@mryous2543]

The wildest thing is showmaker playing a-sol and being mad over k'sante. k'sante doesnt come close to how cancer reworked asol is for the game

[@arcubi487]

Can't belive shaco wasn't selected. The guy is useless because he doesn't do enough damage, and us fucking anoying to play against. And AD shaco has 0 counterplay when you play adc. He was made to be anoying and has the worst design of the game. No other champ except Shaco make me not wanting them in my team and not wanting them in the enemy team

[@noamias4897]

Illaoi is the worst champion in the game. Stomps you in lane if you try to fight unless you play a champ that can poke or someone like Sett who can tank through her insane all in. Then she gets countered by "walk away" more than any other champ in the game. She turns into a turret. Deadly if you stand afk close to her but useless if you walk away because she's so immobile. Not to mention that playing vs her feels awful because of her inconsistent animations, VFX, tankiness and damage sudden all in. To this day despite being M6 on her I don't understand why her tentacles sometimes just triple slam when ulting and other times doesn't. So they can't buff her without breaking her in lane and making her too frustrating, and they can't nerf her or she's useless in and out of lane

[@Tomardes]

Any tank buster kills her easily. Any percent max HP damage is a bane to her. Any high mobility champ is a bane. Mordekaiser? Mandatory ban. Statcheckers? Yep, they are good too, if they are piloted by decent player. The problem is that she cant stomp lane, if she gets a counter agaisnt her or her opponent is absolute braindead. Oh, and GW counteres her too (yeah, 800 gold item deletes her durability fully, but Aatrox, whose durability comes from healing will still regain his full HP bar even under GW effect, yeah yeah). Illaoi design is overally not bad, but it is too outdated for current speedy game

[@jakubekch.3621]

honestly? pyke is a nice spin on the support class imo, his kit by itself does not deal enough damage to solo enemy adc or supp unless they are heavily out of place. His hook plays into the "if you're filling supp pick blitz" mentality of low elo so that auto filled zed player can still play his fav class. He has a nice smooth learning curve and is easy to execute ult (it skipping shields is BS and a sign of feature creep)

[@thekirbycrafter7229]

True Executes always ignore shields. Happens with Urgot, Pyke, Elder, Smolder, Asol, Draven, and Collector.

[@merdricon]

Wdym vlad is a lane bully?

[@thrall6647]

Mid vlad not realy. Top vlad can be. Range poke + blood pool to ignore fights

[@N3207H05]

vlad a lane bully? what? vlad is very weak early. you mostly want to survive lane with him until lvl 7/9.

[@wiktorma1679]

Thing is, he can in mid because he doesnt have mana, so he can spam abilities of CD, and he can heal himself with abilities, so theoretically he can have infinite sustain against other classes. He has lower range though, but that is somewhat negated by his blood pool (or whatever that ability is called), since even when he is punished or engaged even single cast can take some of pressure off; it's essentially free better zhonya, since you can move. I believe that's what Vars meant in one of his videos; Vlad doesn't neccessarilly have to pressure you(although he could go for trades and just heal the damage from empowered Q), it's the fact that he can sit and farm till the end of the game because of sustain.

[@tenderandmoist5011]

Vlad with Aery gives every melee champion the c disease

[@minimonkeymasher8888]

While it's fun to complain about a game we all love, have you considered making a video about your Top 5 favorite designed champions, or champions you just think are incredibly cool, despite their current kits? While Pyke is an assassin in a role that's not healthy skewed for assassins, he is genuinely one of the *coolest* characters in the game, and just one of my favorite fictional characters in general. His thematic and fantasy is displayed absolutely PERFECTLY in his kit. Every single detail about his kit fits his theme and tone of what they wanted Pyke to be. When it comes to translating the character into a gameplay mechanic, Riot truly knocked it out of the park.

[@SuitedCynic]

I actually disagree with the assessment of Pyke having one of the *worst* designs. I'll happily grant you, that his design is problematic, but when we're having a discussion about the worst designs and we're not talking about Shaco, then I'm not sure if it's just me or if a champion with a basic ability that has no channel to speak of, that is a flash PLUS stealth, where you can only ever track him by guessing the direction he "flashed" in and then activate sweeper. That one ability makes the champion so unbelievably BS, because he's literally just cheese. Sure, not easy to play really well (I guess) and there is some counterplay, but this champion is able to make me actually mad with just one of his abilities to the point where I just flat out ban the champ every game XD

[@Underworlder5]

ah, yes. shaco. the champion whose mains take pride in how infuriating he is to play against. seriously, is there a shaco main who does NOT delight in drinking your tears?

[@tymunster]

Illaoi without Test of Spirit = good design

[@eleanornicolai2225]

KSante isn't even fun to play in my experience. He feels clunky and unintuitive, but stills gets wins by beating people over the head with his stats

[@w-o-n-s-z-u]

i hope they will eventually rework pyke into being a midlaner. his kit is way too unhealthy for support, which just makes him one of those champs that have to be kept weak, and it sucks because hes arguably one of the most fun champs to play

[@PrivateDaisy]

I love this guy, there is no other champion in the game like him. When you play him on occasion, between more conventional supports, the dopamine rush you get is insane.

[@matthewkukowski4638]

Imo Pyke makes more sense as a roaming Midlaner or ganking Jungler than a support

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Pyke kit makes absolute sense as a support

[@Aletonsi]

yeah thats a big no. Do you remember how pyke used to be a TRIPLE flex champ? top/mid/supp? hell how tf are you supposed to adapt on draft vs a champ like that

[@jaspervermeer659]

Can we really call Zeri close range when her Q is 750

[@vuangminh5738]

I disagree with your gripe with Illaoi, I think that her yank is a 'Fight me ya coward' in all chat rolled up to a skillshot, that way the enemy is force to fight similar to CC chaining but with more agency for the opponent

[@robertharp16]

​@FaceFish9problem is she has to have something to force you to fight her, she had no mobility and no hard crowd control to lock you down with, even if they removed her E it would have to be replaced with something just as bad if not worse otherwise she wouldn't be a champion

[@Tomardes]

@FaceFish9 but you simply can disengage and beat her with ease (ghost+run away/dash away, many toplaners can do this). Oh, and actually many toplaners can literally facetank this stuf during lane phase (and you cant normally deal enough damage without walls close or without ult, so if you actually being dead to her E can mean two things: either you just played poorly, gave her gold and level advantage and she rightfully beats you up or she literally pressed everything perfectly (tethered you under several tentacles, reseted her autos with W and pressed R too), while you have done everything badly (didnt CC her, didnt dodge her E, didnt use your dashes/ghost/blink/etc, literally failed in every aspect).

[@Tomardes]

@FaceFish9 "you have to have ghost against her to survive you say, that is literally bad game design in a nutshell... " And you have to have a ghost against Tryndamere or Olaf to survive, if you play ranged. You have to had cleanse against heavy CC and etc. It is just a tool, that gives you advantage over her in the easiest possible way. " how are you supposedly going to do this with a character who then doesnt have self heal? you'll have to back cause she'll do half of your hp while you are running..." Except no? Unless she is really ahead of you. Without supplemental tentacles, even with pressed ult she cant kill full hp toplaner (when you both even). So backing in that case and return will place you in advatageous position anyway (she wasted her R ult, which is her key offence and defence tool). And actually, how many popular toplaners are without self heal? You eather have built in self-heal or you have runes like Grasp.

[@Jarmister]

Yumi should have r that lets her attach to others

[@saadghali9803]

Vars saw the drama and speedran making a video

[@justinharman9073]

Yummi singed and shaco(main) without watching

[@Littlebean-t2t]

Idk. I long lost touch what champions do and prefer playing simple ones like garen. To me any champion which is unclear visually or covers half the screen is a big no no.

[@leeroyj7300]

1. Illoai i agree with, she feels like she missed the mark entirely on her design, she could have been an elaborate, high skill zone control juggernaut....instead we got the mess we have today 2. Shyvana, in her core i feel was a good design at the time...but it just didn't age well due to mobility creep over the years and passives becoming more prominent 3. Pyke I 100% feel should have been either a jungler or a mid laner... 4. Zeri is in the same boat as yuumi, she's impossible to balance without a full re-design 5. K'sante while I do find him annoying, i feel is extremely overexaggerated, even in high elo he has a 45% winrate atm, the main source of the frustration I feel is so many ppl blow their shit on him when he's tanky, then bitch when he kills them in ult because they have nothing, or he's fed...Idk, I feel there are champs far more deserving of this spot atm

[@leeroyj7300]

@FaceFish9 Idc to watch professional games, and ive never really seen a k'sante do amazingly well unless they get fed, if he's only doing it in games that contain 0.1% of the playerbase though, i really don't understand the issue

[@leeroyj7300]

@FaceFish9 im a gm top main and i rarely run into issues with him...he honestly just seems really weak most the time

[@OtherMaT]

What about making a video talking about how old is league design for champions based on the oldest "feature" of the game the summoner spells. Even more specific. How about talking how how old the game feels today on balance and design because of "flash summoner spell". Base a competitive game for 14 years thinking the -layer must "anticipate" certain ultimates and "flash" is part of the experience of league. Base combos about flash, cancel animations, always setting a kill time when flash or any summoner spell is active, not before neither after. That is a very antiquated design for league, summoner spells should change for the readability, and also for new audiences who wants to learn league. An easy example, Malphite has ult up and flash, that means you have to keep measuring an invisible distance and time your choices. On the time Malphite hasn’t ult yet. The game become totally unplayable for the good players. You can’t interact and do nothing if you are not a front liner. Another example, Draven is giga feed and has flash on. If any mage or front liner fails their CC it means he will gap close to your squishy targets until he has the chance. So no one will get close after Draven flash. This is the reason why the pro scene on tournaments is so boring to watch. Everyone picks high range champions to avoid flash or time to kill\die summoner spells when the game should reward you for using your character mechanics. I’m in no mean to transform LOL into Heroes of storm but league is way to flexible for bad players at the point if you don’t pick flash you are trolling.

[@Vitososo]

blue archive song mentioned!!!

[@torri776]

Zyra is actually very safe, and much safer than Vel and Senna. Her W and E work in tandem to either slow or root enemies trying to close the gap on her respectively, and her CC is among the best in the game. Plus, Tenacity, which is getting removed come the midscope update which will result in a giant buff for her E, doesn't even negate her ultimate, which is one of the best engage/peel ultimates in the game. Zyra has everything except mobility, but at 385 movement speed with boots, she's pretty okay.

[@duongle1606]

until you realize she is the second lowest HP on Lv18, has to freeze herself for 0.25 second for every ability except W. The 0.25 second cast time is the difference between life and dead late game. If the game go past 30 minutes and she has no elder buff, she will die before doing enough damage, unless the enemies have no clues how to deal with her. She is good early to mid, if the game get to 5 items then she is a poke - slow - antiheal machine.

[@torri776]

@@duongle1606 Her pressure in damage dwindles in the lategame because AP champions in general sans a few exceptions *cough* Cassiopeia *cough* Ryze *cough* Azir, *cough* 50000 AP Veigar, etc. just don't do too much damage because AP in general got changed too much. Just a few seasons ago, AP was incapable of doing damage to the point having a Zyra, Brand or even Lux was a detriment to the team before AP got some much needed love in recent times. Also, most older mages with the exception of Syndra stun themselves when using abilities. It's not exclusive to Zyra. Zyra becomes extremely effective in lower ranks where tanks just makes it impossible for her low HP (at base, she get a lot from items) to even take a dent from the opposing team should she position properly. Maybe it's just because Zyra feels so oppressive when she acts as DPS and peel at the same time, even though I seldom see her in high elo where lower durability, higher risk teamcomps are favored. She's good at all stages of the game, but not particularly broken either. She just makes playing a melee painful.

[@N3207H05]

@@torri776 zyra is very save... how is a very squishy champ, with no mobility and slow spell animations very save. also best cc in the game? her e is rly slow and her ult knock up needs to wind up for 2 whole seconds. her cc is very inconsistent.

[@duongle1606]

@@torri776 In late game, either she goes in and risks dying to make a positive trade so her team win, or she stays out of combat and poke. At that point any poke is better than Zyra's (this season). Of course, if enemies are clueless and don't know how to punish her when she is spawning plant, that is a free win for any champs anyway.

[@torri776]

@@duongle1606 Tanks make it easy for her to use her ranged abilities from a distance. She is not an engage champion unless you're talking about high elo where it's mostly squishy, volatile champions vying for first place in teamfights.

[@peanutbutter9345]

Alla, Shyana, Pike, Zary, and Kante

[@_nelson.]

nice Blue Archive BGM 👍

[@poom323]

Gaining everything from doing one thing always a game bad design

[@zhenjiexu4295]

personally I think Naarifi is very weird, and idk why