The WORST Discovery in Jacobs Well for 21 Years!

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Waterline Stories

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@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
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@RandomOzzieVids
@RandomOzzieVids 11 ай бұрын
Dude the way you create, present, and narrate your videos, it’s all just so incredibly well done. I’m a skipper, spent many years at sea, and being totally honest, I admire the what you do, and I can not fault anything, at all, within the content you create. I’d really like to chat with you sometime, if at all possible please. Great work, well done.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories 11 ай бұрын
I’d love that. My email is paul@waterlinestories.com hit me up.
@bearifiablepau2095
@bearifiablepau2095 10 ай бұрын
The ending of the video was abrupt and confusing. At the beginning it is said that one body was recovered ten years later and the other nearly 21 years later but by the end of the video it is said that 20 years later Kent's remains were found. Nothing about Mark . Any way you can clarify this in the description box?
@T0mmyTune
@T0mmyTune 5 ай бұрын
@@waterlinestories CC the guy above "The ending of the video was abrupt and confusing. At the beginning it is said that one body was recovered ten years later and the other nearly 21 years later but by the end of the video it is said that 20 years later Kent's remains were found. Nothing about Mark . Any way you can clarify this in the description box?"
@Mthammere2010
@Mthammere2010 15 күн бұрын
I agree, also the lack of footage on the recovered bodies and where they were found is another intriguing detail missing. Did Kent and Mark get stuck? Buried alive? Stick in the passage on the opposite side of Chamber 4? This video leaves more questions than answers.
@requiscatinpace7392
@requiscatinpace7392 Жыл бұрын
If you go up Mt. Everest there’s an unwritten rule that no-one will risk themselves dragging your carcass off the mountain. Cave divers need to do the same.
@davidpawson7393
@davidpawson7393 Жыл бұрын
Tell me you have no friends without telling me you have no friends. Mission accomplished.
@kenherrera2819
@kenherrera2819 Жыл бұрын
And as you know there are many bodies on the trail to the summit of Everest. Some have even become landmarks to watch for as a climber makes his way to the top.
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 Жыл бұрын
@@kenherrera2819 most famous being “Green Boots”
@enginerdy
@enginerdy Жыл бұрын
@@davidpawson7393what kind of psycho wants their friends to risk their lives to take possession of something no one needs?
@junicohen7918
@junicohen7918 Жыл бұрын
​@@davidpawson7393 he ain't wrong though
@ElkayLive
@ElkayLive Жыл бұрын
My dad is a level 4 dive master. With over 3000 dives logged. He was a commercial diver for 10 years. We go fishing and we have been in the worst kinds of weather (I'm talking 7 meter waves once in a 6 foot seafarer). he grew up around the water so nothing much fazes him. He's had nitrogen narcosis plenty of times and due to he's high drug tolerance he can handle it pretty well. I asked him the other day if he was ever interested in cave diving. He said "as competent as I am a diver im not interested in that". I asked why? He said "it's too easy to get stuck or disoriented due to being silted out where you can't see anything plenty of things can go wrong". I asked "does it scare you" he said "oh yeah"
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Yeah I must admit it scares me too but I’m also quite intrigued.
@Kokopilau77
@Kokopilau77 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a fan of closed in spaces. Not full blown claustrophobia, but you’re not going to find me crawling around a tight passage in a dry cave. Forget underwater. Now I’ll take a ROV and do it. But forget diving. Ironically, if I could, I’d have no problem diving a shipwreck on the Great Lakes or something. Just a big no for caves
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
I'm probably in the same scale as you. I Prefer wrecks but I'm intrigued by caves although I've avoided my entire life. I would like to do some of the safer cave dives. All relative I guess.
@dianebrooks1859
@dianebrooks1859 Жыл бұрын
During our advanced open water class we were going through emergency protocols and such. We had a discussion about lots of survival rate statistics. Our dive master said, "Do you want to come back alive? Then never go cave diving." That always stuck with me though it does look cool haha
@Arieskie
@Arieskie Жыл бұрын
As a CCR cave diver, I can definitely say that training, and following your training, is critical. I’ve been in silt-outs. There is specific training as to how you navigate them (never let go of your line, tap diver in front of you if team diving, turn your light inward, etc). The biggest problem with silt-outs if you know what you are doing is that they can slow you down, which messes with deco time/gas supply.
@ngud_gaming267
@ngud_gaming267 Жыл бұрын
All I need to know about cave diving is don’t go cave diving
@andrewshepherd1537
@andrewshepherd1537 Жыл бұрын
I've been once, but in fairly large, open caves in SA. Places like the cave in the video, those scare me. You couldn't pay me all the money in the world to dive places like that
@terrybaldridge8730
@terrybaldridge8730 Жыл бұрын
Call me a wuss but I never lost anything atop a mountain peak, nor in a cave (above or below water).
@jay-mk4yt
@jay-mk4yt Жыл бұрын
you passed with an A in cave diving lol
@AFineLineA
@AFineLineA Жыл бұрын
Totally agreed!!!
@hubertcumberdale6404
@hubertcumberdale6404 Жыл бұрын
I went cave diving. As soon as I was in the entrance I could see the exit. It was a giant hole is the coral reef. Shout out Christmas Tree Reef off Florida. Fuck caves
@danallen8388
@danallen8388 Жыл бұрын
I dive professionally as a biologist. I’ve dove in pitch black rivers, under ice, under dams, and in currents that will wash you downstream with one mistake. Really risky dives, very dangerous. I would NEVER go into a cave. I’ve had to hold onto boulders while a barge passes over me, climbed through tress in 50ft of water, moved snapping turtles in alligator infested swamps. Never a cave, ever.
@krishnaverma2603
@krishnaverma2603 11 ай бұрын
That’s actually wise
@travv88
@travv88 10 ай бұрын
those other things are also insane.
@BillionairesArentYourFriends
@BillionairesArentYourFriends 10 ай бұрын
Really cool. Thanks for sharing!
@BarcelonaMariaMafia
@BarcelonaMariaMafia 9 ай бұрын
What is a tress?
@gregkosinski2303
@gregkosinski2303 7 ай бұрын
@@BarcelonaMariaMafiaI think he’s talking about thick seaweed.
@marchellochiovelli7259
@marchellochiovelli7259 Жыл бұрын
The diver that put that death sign in its place is a legend. Did it right.
@catalintimofti1117
@catalintimofti1117 Жыл бұрын
The reaper on that sign is not stopping you He is signing you to go in Bone chilling
@IndiaNumberOneCoubtry
@IndiaNumberOneCoubtry Жыл бұрын
@@catalintimofti1117 damn ive never noticed that. Thats wild
@herpderp3131
@herpderp3131 Жыл бұрын
Isnt that from another dive site? Swear Ive seen it before.
@jakejanssen4319
@jakejanssen4319 Жыл бұрын
@@herpderp3131I believe it is a standard sign design
@conveniencestorebanana9648
@conveniencestorebanana9648 Жыл бұрын
@@catalintimofti1117 Bing chilling
@IronCascade
@IronCascade Жыл бұрын
Its bizarre how impotently watching your friends make poor decisions that you physically cannot talk them out of, then having to write them off as dead because you can't wait around for them to come back anymore without running out of air and dying yourself is something you just have to deal with in diving.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Well certain types of diving yes. Cave diving like this when it's poorly planned.
@Arieskie
@Arieskie Жыл бұрын
Recreational divers don’t face these situations, and most technical/cave divers don’t either. There’s a reason these deaths make the news; they happen very infrequently.
@cdk1016
@cdk1016 Жыл бұрын
Diving underwater is such an unnatural environment. With breathing being so crucial for humans to remain alive, diving is not for the faint of heart.
@cdk1016
@cdk1016 Жыл бұрын
Just as it is with aviation pilots, their is no room for mistakes.
@donjohnson7189
@donjohnson7189 Жыл бұрын
Yup. That's why you have a dive master involved with a safe dive. Without a dive master there a very good chance that an accident could happen. Gotta have a plan set and then FOLLOW said plan as set forward by the dives master.😐
@hkjm29
@hkjm29 Жыл бұрын
so there was funding to recover the bodies but no funding for the hospital bill for the person who risked his life to assist in finding the bodies... what a world we are in today
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Usually divers have insurance to cover these things. As a dive professional he should have had his insurance in place before going in the water.
@LuisDiaz-gc1iq
@LuisDiaz-gc1iq Жыл бұрын
They did
@Arieskie
@Arieskie Жыл бұрын
This guy’s insurance LAPSED (Not yelling- emphasizing ). A site that is maintained publicly (vs. privately) will not let divers down without the right certifications and insurance.
@sid2112
@sid2112 Жыл бұрын
The community took care of it. Individuals who live in the same place privately got together and paid the bill. No government required!
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries Жыл бұрын
@@sid2112 Thats how it should be.
@wht-rabt-obj
@wht-rabt-obj Жыл бұрын
I feel for their families, but it is so unfair to put rescuers at risk and put your family through hell, because you wanted "to see what the fourth chamber was like", so crawled into a death hole on purpose.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think they were completely unprepared for that dive.
@Arieskie
@Arieskie Жыл бұрын
Rescuers choose to enter and perform the recovery. Since only cave divers can perform this task, police, etc rely on the dive community to determine who, if anyone, is going after the bodies.
@EQOAnostalgia
@EQOAnostalgia Жыл бұрын
@@Arieskie Doesn't make it a good idea.
@Kiefsti
@Kiefsti Жыл бұрын
I think it's terribly selfish. Some of these dangerous "hobbies" should have a no-rescue clause. Why are innocent people dying to recover your dumbass?! I would feel horrid if someone died trying to get my meatsack out of a stupid place.
@LezbollahMothra
@LezbollahMothra Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, diving history has seen countless lives lost or endangered simply trying to recover the bodies of arrogant people that outright ignored warnings because they figured the rules & warnings & science don’t apply to them
@StamfordBridge
@StamfordBridge Жыл бұрын
The most amazing thing to me is how instantly after seeing the two divers back in that Joe knows it’s a body recovery, as do all of the emergency authorities he reaches. In other words, everyone except those two divers knew right away their decision was a deadly one from the start.
@leahalford5769
@leahalford5769 Жыл бұрын
God imagine if there's radios or something thad be nice
@FleetAdmirable
@FleetAdmirable Жыл бұрын
@@leahalford5769 I duno if you can use a radio underwater
@leahalford5769
@leahalford5769 Жыл бұрын
@@FleetAdmirable well I've seen footage of search and rescues talking to each other but maybe that's different
@pinkunicorn8794
@pinkunicorn8794 3 күн бұрын
@@leahalford5769 I doubt you can talk so much under water with a tube in your mouth.
@AAAAAAAHELPMEaa
@AAAAAAAHELPMEaa Күн бұрын
@@leahalford5769Correct me if Im wrong but radio waves stop transmitting once you hit a certain point underwater. (Or if underwater at all. Its basically as far as the sun goes I think?) Thats why animals communicate with insanely loud sonar based calls. Submarines use sonar communications when they go deep deep. Not sure if any expertise beyond government funded dives could afford communication like that
@treyaldridge1757
@treyaldridge1757 Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up in the area and studied geology, I'd love to talk more about the spring/aquifer. Rather it's a massive limestone structure (Cow Creek limestone), that as the graphic shows, lies underneath another massive limestone structure (Glen Rose Limestone) with a glauconite layer sandwiched between (Hensel, this is the one that likely formed all the gravel in the story) . The top layer contains the Edwards aquifer that feeds all the waterways in the Austin area. But as stated, the second layer is another aquifer that is compressed and creates artesian wells, meaning water comes up out of the ground in springs absolutely everywhere. Both layers have hugely extensive cave structures carved out by the aquifers which also leaves behind many aquatic lakes and rivers inhabited by blind creatures like salamanders, crayfish, catfish, and many more that are localized sometimes to a single spring. There are other species that have only been documented once or twice ever, completely by accident as we drill wells for water. But given that there are thousands of caves in this portion of Texas alone, it's possible these species are thriving right beneath our feet.
@kharmachaos667
@kharmachaos667 Жыл бұрын
That's super cool! I studied biology and would love to see more of these blind cave dwelling critters, the odds of siscovering new species is incredibly high. Would I go and dove for them, though? .... nope. I have both a fear of caves AND diving. 🤣
@pizzlerot2730
@pizzlerot2730 Жыл бұрын
​@@jocm99 you're quite proud of your ignorance, aren't you?
@pizzlerot2730
@pizzlerot2730 Жыл бұрын
Interesting info, thanks for the additional context 👍
@pbxn-3rdx-85percent
@pbxn-3rdx-85percent Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm afraid of. Undiscovered species of who knows what living down there. Add a nuke accident or toxic chemical accident and I won't be surprised if Godzilla crawls out very pissed and looking for puny humans to step on. LOL
@MrSunrise-
@MrSunrise- Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@charlescouncill
@charlescouncill Жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine and I snuck in there, at night, a couple of times for some night dives. We were students at SWSTU in San Marcos (1973-1974). I look back on that and think “What in the hell were we thinking?!” I get the heeby-jeebies just thinking about it. We were happy that we didn’t run across any bodies, or get caught trespassing.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Wow yeah thats inner for the books. I think we've all got some stupid things we've done when we were young.
@marlonsmith713
@marlonsmith713 Жыл бұрын
Tell us more how it went
@Pllayer064
@Pllayer064 Жыл бұрын
​@@marlonsmith713 well it was wet.
@JS-tg7mw
@JS-tg7mw Жыл бұрын
@@waterlinestories why do you feel the need to blur the fact that you use AI generated images?
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
I kept grind asked about the six fingers. Now I get asked about the blur 🤣
@andycraig7734
@andycraig7734 Жыл бұрын
As a child in Gainesville, Florida, in the 1970s, I saw newspapers regularly reporting cave diver deaths. I love open water scuba but cave diving is nightmare material.
@g99se9
@g99se9 10 ай бұрын
Every single cave diver who got stuck wished they had never cave dived at that critical moment I would wager.
@texarcana2450
@texarcana2450 7 ай бұрын
Ever since I saw the movie the descent I've not wanted to go spelunking lol in or out of water!!
@thereisaplace
@thereisaplace 7 күн бұрын
Same (still in Gainesville) but went the other direction and got certified cave in the 80’s. North Florida is a cave diving Mecca and the beauty of some of these systems is beyond description.
@TheAngrySaxon1
@TheAngrySaxon1 Жыл бұрын
I'll never understand what motivates someone to put themselves in such a nightmarish situation. These people are bonkers!
@pandahsykes602
@pandahsykes602 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays they call these people “Joe Biden voters”
@dp2677
@dp2677 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 Жыл бұрын
Damn adrenaline junkies man.
@la6136
@la6136 Жыл бұрын
Regular caves are dangerous enough but underwater caves?? Forget about it!
@basedphantomlord4462
@basedphantomlord4462 Жыл бұрын
that terror and fear is part of the allure. I am thalassophobic and claustrophobic so watching this stuff truly terrifies me, but there is also a large part of me that wants to do it, for the same reasons
@Firekat9282
@Firekat9282 Жыл бұрын
Don was my duving instructor for the fire department rescue training. He told the story knowing the people listening could handle the graphic parts. I have much respect for those rescue divers and nothing but contempt for the self-centered future Darwin award winners who think their right overrule safety.
@1TUFZ71
@1TUFZ71 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, the removal of the grate is SO egotistical I can hardly wrap my mind around it. I suppose you need level of self-confidence that crosses in to arrogance to even attempt these dives- much like high-altitude mountaineering, free climbing etc. At least those sports are better about regulating "rescues" to within the scope of reality.
@AR15andGOD
@AR15andGOD Жыл бұрын
@@1TUFZ71 it isn't egotistical at all, people have the right to go where they please in their own country regardless of the risk.
@AR15andGOD
@AR15andGOD Жыл бұрын
there is no right to safety.
@childofcascadia
@childofcascadia Жыл бұрын
@jesusisgodofall6407 You dont have a right to go wherever you want in your country or any other. You dont have a right to enter private property without invitation nor do you have a right to enter secure buildings or military facilities, among many other places I can think. This cave was on private property. If the owner asked the divers to put up a grate, that was within his rights as the owner to do so. Its mindblowing how ignorant some people are
@Ivytheherbert
@Ivytheherbert Жыл бұрын
@@AR15andGOD Yeah, this comment is typical of the modern conservative mindset. "I can do whatever I want out of boredom, regardless of how many other lives I put at risk by doing so." It is 100% egotistical and based on a total lack of compassion for innocent people. If you and your friends want to risk death out of boredom, just go into a field and use your second amendment rights to play a couple of rounds of Russian Roulette. It will give the remainder of the group the PTSD and survivor guilt they crave, and it won't endanger the lives of rescue workers trying to recover the body.
@dacksonflux
@dacksonflux Жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the incredible bravery of rescue divers and climbers. They're like firefighters, to me. The threat isn't just of dying but dying slow and afraid.
@Strype13
@Strype13 Жыл бұрын
Strange. After all that incredibly hard work and ultimately concluding that it would be impossible to recover the bodies... two decades later, a couple of geologists wander down there to map the cave and come out like, "Here, I found a body. Is this what you guys were looking for?"
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
And they weren't even trying...
@dr-amethyst-77
@dr-amethyst-77 Жыл бұрын
Geologists, man. Nothing stops them, not even a dead body
@brianpeck4035
@brianpeck4035 Жыл бұрын
@@waterlinestories I want to know that story! Was it because there was less flow?
@jermainerace4156
@jermainerace4156 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the gravel shifted and the bodies floated up when the water table rose and the well started flowing again.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
I imagine because of the fire of water that the rock and sediment are constantly shifting. Just worked it's way out.
@bkenwood88
@bkenwood88 Жыл бұрын
The narcosis scares me the most, I've been drunk in really dangerous situations where I look back and shudder about what could have happened. Seems like at least half of these stories aren't about rookies getting in too deep, but experts that defy all basic safety precautions, probably due to being absolutely snorkel-faced on gas.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Definitely plays a part
@stevedittman4536
@stevedittman4536 Жыл бұрын
Nitrogen Narcosis gives you an extremely false sense of Courage and should be an immediate red flag in any stressful situation.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
@@stevedittman4536 True but like alcohol, the first tingles are barely perceptible and then they mask the next level of recognition and so it spirals.
@bkenwood88
@bkenwood88 Жыл бұрын
@@stevedittman4536 Catch-22
@samuelschick8813
@samuelschick8813 Жыл бұрын
@Brian, "I've been drunk in really dangerous situations " Would that be divorce court? LOL
@MrDiveDave
@MrDiveDave Жыл бұрын
As a recreational diver I firmly believe that we are diving for entertainment and adventure. Its not worth our lives. If it feels wrong dont do it, and follow the damn rules. If you want life risking adventure and diving become a saturation diver or a Navy Diver or something. You risk your life and the lives of those trying to correct your bad judgement.
@HuckleberryLover
@HuckleberryLover Жыл бұрын
I'm not trying to be confrontational but what are you diving for then as a recreational diver except for recreation, or in other words entertainment?
@BarcelonaMariaMafia
@BarcelonaMariaMafia 9 ай бұрын
It feels bad enough watching it.
@BarcelonaMariaMafia
@BarcelonaMariaMafia 9 ай бұрын
@@HuckleberryLoveradrenaline junkies have no reasoning
@MrDiveDave
@MrDiveDave 9 ай бұрын
@@HuckleberryLover What are you talking about? You obviously misread what I said. I said recreational diving is for fun and entertainment and that if a dive feels wrong or dangerous just dont do it. And Im curious, are you a diver? Because the number one rule besides dont hold your breath is dont dive if it doesnt feel righ. And if you notice your partner is nervous or out of sorts you should call the dive as well.
@HuckleberryLover
@HuckleberryLover 9 ай бұрын
@@MrDiveDave I definitely misread your comment as "we aren't diving for entertainment or adventure." Sorry about that. Have a good one.
@timecowx
@timecowx Жыл бұрын
Ok, story time: Some years back, I discovered that there was a dive shop in my town, and decided that I would finally learn to dive once I was done paying off my car, about a year off. That summer Some friends and I were swimming in the south fork of the Yuba river, which was at an ideal height. While swimming upstream and up the little waterfalls between pools I was in a faster flowing section with a spot where water was falling of a rock forming a sort of low head dam. I was unaware of the dangers of that type of spot, and swam towards it hoping to find some handholds to just pull myself up and over with. Two things added up to create a problem. First there was more water moving through that spot that I realized, creating a stronger current in a small area, and second that the flow had dug out all the gravel below. What happened was I was shoved under by a surprising force of the falling water, and at the same time my foot found a gap between some large underwater rocks. My foot went in no problem, but the water continued to push me down, and turn me around, so my foot became stuck in a kind of "twist lock" situation. I found myself on my back with one leg twisted painfully beneath me, and the falling water acting like a large hand pushing down on my chest. I could ALMOST push up against it, but because of the way my leg was twisted I couldn't get any leverage. I had fortunately held a good breath before my head went under, so I wasn't immediately panicked, but quickly realized that I might be in some real trouble. I tried to move to either side to get out from under the flow, but just couldn't do it the way I was pinned. As the panic started to creep up, I made the decision that my best hope might be that if I could break my ankle it might allow me to pull my foot out, and tried yanking and twisting to do just that, but again, I couldn't even get the leverage for it. Finally I just reached my hand up, hoping it would break the water or be visible under fall, and that my GF had been close enough behind me to notice it. I sat there reaching my hand up for approximately 3000 years, when suddenly someone grabbed my hand and pulled. My leg twisted painfully, but my face just broke the surface enough to get a breath. I just shouted "Don't let go!" gripping what was indeed my GF's hand with all I had. She thought I was goofing around, but pulled anyway because, as she later said, "I just wanted a kiss". With her pulling me out from the flow and providing an anchor point I was able to work my foot free from what wasn't even a tight space, just and unfortunately shaped one. After explaining to her that she had literally just saved my life she said it hadn't even occurred to he I was in trouble, as she hadn't seen when I went under and didn't know how long I had been down. After collecting myself and being mostly uninjured (minus a tiny bit of psychological scarring)I swam around in the parts of the pool where the waster was slow moving until I found a couple of the largest rocks I could move to that spot and tossed them in to cover up that hole. I was surprised when I moved over to it and discovered just how deep it was. Had there been no current coming off the fall, I could have just stood there in waist deep water. Hearing the part of the video with the diver pinned by the gravel brought all of that back in Technicolor clarity. The point of all this is that I was just swimming in a calm river, not more than a hundred feet under water in a pitch black cave, and I still almost lost. I love the water, having grown up 20 minutes from the ocean I have always respected, but not feared the sea. I guess I hadn't yet learned proper respect for rivers. I never did go to dive school, though if I did, I know that caves would never be on my list. Even without being a diver my stupid experience taught me a few things, like the importance of a dive buddy (or river buddy), the importance of taking a moment to THINK before doing a thing, and to be aware that confidence is great, but nature (and physics) don't care at all about your confidence. Accidents can, and will happen. The better prepared you are, the more likely you are to get out of a situation when the unexpected happens. Thus ends my 'Older person shouts "Be Careful!"' message.
@tw9664
@tw9664 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyjericho8472Speak for yourself! Try working on your manners while your at it!🙄 I read the entire post! There’s a valuable lesson to learn from it, unfortunately just like manners you failed to learn it.😑
@susieg4624
@susieg4624 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnnyjericho8472 More fool you. You might have learnt something that could save your life.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyjericho8472, some smart people even read books and articles.
@AZ-su1zg
@AZ-su1zg Жыл бұрын
I speak for the rest of the world. I read it. If too long why even comment? This story was very interesting
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 Жыл бұрын
@@AZ-su1zg, because putting down people feels like stealing candy from a kid. It makes you feel powerful.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 Жыл бұрын
"You can't keep us out." That may be true, but the laws of physics can make sure you pay for the entry with your lives. Stockton Rush defied all the experts in his dive in a machine that could not withstand the pressure of what he was doing with it. He said, "Safety is a waste of time." Well, he's not saying that now, is he? The sad part is, neither are the four people who trusted him enough to put their lives in his hands.
@DaTimmeh
@DaTimmeh 5 күн бұрын
The correct response to "you can't keep us out" is "You can't get out"
@gbresaleking
@gbresaleking Жыл бұрын
Being underwater and having something above your head to keep you from surfacing as you instinctually try to get to the surface to fill your lungs with air only to just get giant lungfuls of water sounds extremely terrifying , anyone that has tried to surface in the swimming pool only to come up under a pool float and having your life flash in front of you thinking you are gonna die for those couple seconds can understand the fear lol
@ablemagawitch
@ablemagawitch Жыл бұрын
It is far worse, when you shine your light upwards underwater, the exhaust air from scuba will create air pockets that reflect your light like surface does. So you can mistake an old scuba exhaust air collection air bubble for the way to the surface. Air bubbles may run along the roof surface upwards but that is not the way to where you came into that chamber from the entrance. Cave Diving is a very technical skill, which takes the vast discipline of scuba diving and then adds no visibility risks. All you have that yellow string to follow back, if you lose it, you're dead.
@LIZZIE-lizzie
@LIZZIE-lizzie Жыл бұрын
Or you're in the ocean and get hit by a wave. You're going up and get hit by an undertow wave. The water feels like a brick wall - you somersault .... Luckily, you get to the top, there are no waves but it's an easy way to die. Former competitive swimmer and in lakes, lifeguard, water is no joke and not to play in. No dunking, no pushing, water is serious.
@marlonsmith713
@marlonsmith713 Жыл бұрын
You eventually pass out it's painful at first . Luckily a dude named Jesus at the pool but I was almost gone
@viren_jalkun
@viren_jalkun Жыл бұрын
Comparing cave diving to getting stuck under a Pool Floaty...? Are you okay my dude? The two are nowhere close to the same.
@LIZZIE-lizzie
@LIZZIE-lizzie Жыл бұрын
@@viren_jalkun It doesn't matter where or how you drown. The level of panic is less because you're under a pool toy in a chlorine pool at 3 ft. or in the bathtub? I don't think so. We can Experiment, however -
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 Жыл бұрын
Wait, so how was the first body retrieved? You mentioned they found one 10 years later and then a chance encounter led to the other being found 21 years later. Who found the first, and how?
@dwoodman26
@dwoodman26 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering this too, the story cut off pretty abruptly
@stevenmonster
@stevenmonster Жыл бұрын
@@dwoodman26 I have started the video over as I thought I missed something. Glad I searched for a comment about it. Bizarre.
@abark
@abark Жыл бұрын
The body of Mark has never been found. Ken's remains were found in 2000.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 Жыл бұрын
@@abark How did you find that out? I searched all over the place, and there are only a few articles even mentioning their names.
@abark
@abark Жыл бұрын
@@evilsharkey8954 if you read about Ken being found it explains Mark has never been
@camdenarnett193
@camdenarnett193 Жыл бұрын
How did they find Mark Brashear's body after 10 years? Maybe I missed it, but I think you only mentioned how they found Kent Morpen
@LxR7601
@LxR7601 Жыл бұрын
Cave Diving is the epitomy of that one Jeff Goldblum quote: "We were so focused on trying to find out whether we could, we never stopped to ask ourselves if we should."
@smizles
@smizles Жыл бұрын
I would have liked more content about the geologists 21 years later and how that recovery went, but your storytelling was great up until that ending. 👍🏼
@blindbrad4719
@blindbrad4719 Жыл бұрын
Yup! It felt disconcertingly frustrating.
@DewTime
@DewTime Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I was thinking what. The video abruptly ended. I felt like he wanted to make it longer but just wanted to get the video out quicker. This definitely needs a part two
@geckoproductions4128
@geckoproductions4128 Жыл бұрын
Don Dibble taught me how to dive and got me my PADI card in 1978 while a grad student at SWTSU. Don is the consummate professional and taught me to be a safe diver.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Oh wow. That's great
@westondavis1682
@westondavis1682 Жыл бұрын
I went through Don's Instructor course in 1999 and became a NAUI instructor. He had one of those divers tanks on display in his shop. I remember when he told us the story of that day he went in to try and rescue those individuals. It's amazing he survived the attempt given the injuries he sustained during the attempt.
@sgtawb6904
@sgtawb6904 Жыл бұрын
I am slightly claustrophobic I can't imagine going into a space like this. Not only do you drown but you get buried alive and THEN you drown. No freaking way.
@erkvongronk8583
@erkvongronk8583 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of AI art. It looks weird.
@adaytimesinner
@adaytimesinner 6 күн бұрын
Looks bad 😂
@theaphextwins
@theaphextwins 6 күн бұрын
it's trashy
@lindsayschmidt2177
@lindsayschmidt2177 4 күн бұрын
Same
@thesuperjacobshow8151
@thesuperjacobshow8151 Жыл бұрын
I did some regular caving in my teens and 20s. Explored the most popular caves in the TAG area. (Where Tenn, Alabama, Ga meet) I swam in a flooded cave once, and crawled through a riverbed cave with only 6 inches of air at the ceiling. The only reason that the idea of scuba diving in a cave doesn't terrify me, is because I know that I will never do it. I'm glad I'm an old man who's most dangerous activity now is kayaking in daylight on a placid lake with multiple other people around while wearing a life jacket.
@tessalyyvuo1667
@tessalyyvuo1667 Жыл бұрын
Who ever left the "you can't keep us out" note. I bet they would end up regretting their arrogance if something were to happen.
@DaTimmeh
@DaTimmeh 5 күн бұрын
For all we know, they never left. Frankly, I don't care if they didn't. Stupid gets what stupid does. I just feel bad for all the rescuers (in any field like this) risking their lives because of other people's choices.
@jeremywells9019
@jeremywells9019 Жыл бұрын
Leave these people where they are. It is not worth the risk to recover people who ignored warnings.
@stormsurge9953
@stormsurge9953 Жыл бұрын
The money would have been better spent on the starving and homeless
@CheerupA1
@CheerupA1 10 ай бұрын
yeah, it's such a waste just for some bones
@iainbanks7415
@iainbanks7415 Жыл бұрын
All the rescuers are extremely brave people, they risk their lives to help or recover divers they don't know. Thank God for people like them.
@trivialtrav
@trivialtrav Жыл бұрын
That's not a good thing. The person is dead and their body is doing no harm where it's at. It's not the person, it's a husk. If it were possible to ask the deceased it's very likely that they would be against anyone risking their lives to recover it. Turning one tragedy into two for no reason other than religion or superstition is ridiculous.
@tappajaav
@tappajaav Жыл бұрын
@@trivialtrav You're absolutely right. Comparision comes to my mind. Living human is like a treasure chest full of goodies. But when one dies, the chest is emptied. There's nothing inside. Empty treasure chest is hardly worth pursuing.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli Жыл бұрын
​@@trivialtravwhatever works in your mind for being a coward, buddy
@sclarin2
@sclarin2 11 ай бұрын
@@bzipoliit's nothing to do with cowardice it's logic and common sense bud. Once someone dies their body is just a hunk of decomposing flesh. What exactly are you saving when you recover a dead body?
@iainbanks7415
@iainbanks7415 9 ай бұрын
@@sclarin2 the main reason that they recover the bodies of divers is that as they rot they become a bio-hazard to the environment that they are in (that's why we don't leave dead bodies in our house etc.) also their family might like them back so they have some closure about their death.
@dhelsel89
@dhelsel89 4 күн бұрын
Sup with that weird AI art at 2:36?
@taraemcintyre
@taraemcintyre 4 күн бұрын
I'm SO glad you don't use AI as heavily anymore. Your work stands strong on its own 👍
@trivialtrav
@trivialtrav Жыл бұрын
Risking your life to recover a dead body is not only stupid, it likely directly goes against the wishes of your dead friend. No real friend or loved one would ever want you to risk your life recovering their body. If getting my body is even a little bit risky, just leave me.
@DaTimmeh
@DaTimmeh 5 күн бұрын
100%. Not like anyone needs it anymore, least of all me. Best to leave it as food for the fish. Not risking anyone else's lives, and it's going to a good cause!
@DeborahRosen99
@DeborahRosen99 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that diving into an aquifer was even possible, but apparently it is. Since aquifers are generally public drinking water supplies and it's really not ok to leave a dead body in water, and because even experienced, qualified cave divers die in these dives, it seems like a deadly and entirely unnecessary gamble for the divers, the body recovery team AND the communities dependent on that water. And all because someone decided to have an incredibly dangerous lark.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
I think I read that they tested the water right throughout the ordeal and continuously afterwards. All the results were within normal range. You have to imagine that fish and other animals die or fall in. I had thought of calling the video something like. What youve been swimming in for 21 years. But yeah, not great.
@NormalPersonCommenting
@NormalPersonCommenting Жыл бұрын
In the case of this area, the Aquifer is massive, and the high flow rate and low water temperature would make bacterial infections unviable.
@Arieskie
@Arieskie Жыл бұрын
You can’t stick a straw in the water and drink, with or without divers, swimmers, underwater vehicles, etc.
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 Жыл бұрын
I swam in Lake Superior at Pictured Rock National Park and the water was magnificently clear, so clear I filled a water bottle and was astonished to not see anything in it whatsoever, no sediment, no color at all. I guess because it’s such a cold lake, bacteria can’t grow? I decided to take a risk and take a drink! OMG it was exactly the same as drinking water! I filled my water bottle and drank it all! Then took two more home with me to show my family and friends and challenged them to taste it vs proper bottled water and tell me which is from the lake. They couldn’t tell! And nobody got sick either.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 Жыл бұрын
@@Syclone0044 Just because you can’t see or taste contaminants doesn’t mean they’re not present. I wouldn’t drink any wild water that I hadn’t peeked at under high power microscope or just boiled to be on the safe side.
@joecool2125
@joecool2125 Жыл бұрын
Having followed this tragedy many years ago, you provided details I didn’t know. Great video.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that
@vorda400
@vorda400 Жыл бұрын
Cave diving especially gives me anxiety just watching those crawl through the passages I find the end of the video fascinating because it describes the human psyche very well As soon as you ban something, it automatically becomes interesting Reverse psychology
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
So true
@stormsurge9953
@stormsurge9953 Жыл бұрын
Is, "Reverse Psychology" a nice way of saying, "Foolish"?
@VoltaDoMar
@VoltaDoMar Жыл бұрын
I knew the basics of this story already, but this is very well told. This really drives home for me how people who take foolish risks are not just putting themselves in danger- They're putting all the rescuers in danger of injury and death also. I'm serious man, you're so good at this- This is an exceptional documentary.
@michelrood2966
@michelrood2966 Жыл бұрын
I am a 53 year young scubadiver from the Caribbean Since I was 9 I started diving and working at a diveshop after school. Theres one thing I cannot understand why people cavedive. I will NEVER cavedive . I have claustphobia, and know my limits. Why people willingly put themselves in these situations known to have claimed so many lifes is beyond me. Imo there must be something wrong with you .No amount of training or expertise can prevent sudden disaster.
@terrykrugii5652
@terrykrugii5652 Жыл бұрын
My bet is a mix of thrill seeking/bragging rights. Afterall... it makes for an incredible story if you survive something no one else has
@lisatsuda
@lisatsuda Жыл бұрын
I can't understand sky diving. Don't jump outta the plane. Thrill adrenaline junkies. I've had my share. Juggling meat cleavers and fire sticks was pretty thrilling. The cleavers had safety covers on them, but there's always something that could go wrong.
@falseking989
@falseking989 Жыл бұрын
After Don Dibbles put the grate their some kids left a note saying “you can’t keep us out”. Foolish people won’t stop making the worst decisions 🤣
@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 Жыл бұрын
They could have written "You can't stop the ignorant."
@mitchrich6
@mitchrich6 Жыл бұрын
Yes so I was wondering were people able to go into the 4th cave after this or they just were annoyed and broke that cement barrier. And never went into it.
@Mountain-Man-3000
@Mountain-Man-3000 Жыл бұрын
*there
@cocodojo
@cocodojo Жыл бұрын
Basically saying "Darwin Awards won't apply to me!" 🙄
@lavendertease
@lavendertease Жыл бұрын
"You can't fix stupid" 😂
@enkiimuto1041
@enkiimuto1041 Жыл бұрын
Sign: There is nothing in this cave worth dying for Divers: I'll pretend I didn't read that.
@BryanHilderbrand
@BryanHilderbrand Жыл бұрын
If you pause the video at the right time around 6:03 you'll see the channel used AI to create the image and the blurred out bit briefly disappears showing a hand with too many fingers (classic issue with AI generation of human fingers).
@MEGALLICA6
@MEGALLICA6 11 ай бұрын
I noticed that as well. I was wondering why the blur was there.
@shorok9333
@shorok9333 5 күн бұрын
I am a bit late, but there is another AI image at 2:34 (boy's neck).
@BryanHilderbrand
@BryanHilderbrand 3 күн бұрын
@@shorok9333 Ha, yeah. Both necks looks weird and the boy on the right has a super weird looking left hand.
@williamcarter7057
@williamcarter7057 Жыл бұрын
This was fascinating to me. My love for life would never let me: cave dive, street drag race, jump from a plane, or bungee jump. I can enjoy each of those on KZbin I'll call myself "professional spectator enthusiast." Thanks for the great presentation.
@Inspector-Chisholm
@Inspector-Chisholm Жыл бұрын
I just can't fathom why people would needlessly put their lives at such risk.
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 Жыл бұрын
if I've learned anything in the last 8 years, people are stupid
@alexandraw.4012
@alexandraw.4012 Жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating and terrifying. I really appreciate your channel. "Diving into the Unknown" is one of my favorite documentaries. All the science of free diving is incredible, too. Fighting your biological processes and the mammalian urge for oxygen? It absolutely amazes me. Stay safe.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen it, I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for watching
@heathermolina2041
@heathermolina2041 Жыл бұрын
Am so freaking tired....how is party goin?
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Random
@barrybarlowe5640
@barrybarlowe5640 Жыл бұрын
Maybe someone should consider using remote control drones with manipulator arms? Like what they use to explore things like the titanic, or other deep wrecks?
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
The ones small enough to fit only recently went into production but then small also means they don't have the power to dig into a hole like that. So yes and no.
@medea27
@medea27 Жыл бұрын
The ROVs they use to find wrecks have a cable that tethers them to a surface ship, and unfortunately they don't do well in enclosed spaces... that cable can easily get snagged & the ROV can't free itself, and they are _way_ too expensive to risk losing. Caves are also bad news for anything remote controlled as the signal won't travel through rock & you get lots of reflection/echo off every surface.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 Жыл бұрын
ROC technology wasn’t at the same point back then.
@pizzlerot2730
@pizzlerot2730 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a problem of depth or time, it was a problem of access. The later team had an umbilicus and recomp chamber, they could spend all day down there if they wanted to. The problem was all of the gravel blocking the chamber, and no robot would be able to get through that, even if they existed back then.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli Жыл бұрын
​@@waterlinestoriesyeah. and those flexible body drones are being developed for extreme enviroments just like these. might be a while until operational tho
@sugarpuddin
@sugarpuddin Жыл бұрын
Terrific story teller! Consider the story of how many dozens of people died jumping off Hamilton Pool water fall also in Hays County. The ambulances had to make several trips there every single weekend. I should know - I was transported by one of them!
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 Жыл бұрын
This is the second cave I've heard with a 'birth canal' and the other one is a terrestrial dry cave. I wouldn't go thru either, Ever.
@killergames391
@killergames391 Жыл бұрын
It’s the 3rd or 4th for me. Far as I’m aware it’s a common term for tight narrow tunnels that are less than shoulder width you can traverse.
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering 25 күн бұрын
And never ever go through narrow descending spaces where you could get stuck head-first. Getting stuck head pointed downslope is a death sentence in itself even if nothing else happens. Just that position and the body being wedged will kill you - even if you have drinking water, are not hypothermic, and there are no other risks. Being underwater doesn’t help obviously.
@DaTimmeh
@DaTimmeh 5 күн бұрын
Been through one birth canal, I don't need another in my life!
@TheRedHoodie
@TheRedHoodie Күн бұрын
Nutty Putty haunts us all.
@herlaqueen
@herlaqueen 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for highlighting how much extra risk the recovery attempt creates. Of course, accidents can happen even in "regular", safer conditions, and some folks who do cave diving explictly request their bodies to NOT be recovered to avoid this specific issue. But sadly many folks die by attempting dives or cave explorations beyond their skill level and being confident they will have no issue, and then someone has to risk everything trying to recover the bodies.
@bailey2913
@bailey2913 Жыл бұрын
I love scuba diving in open water but I would never dive caves like this ever.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 Жыл бұрын
Smart move
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 Жыл бұрын
yeah. strange. they must be young (and stupid)
@unclerojelio6320
@unclerojelio6320 Жыл бұрын
I learned to dive at Don Brod's dive center on Lake Travis back in the the early 80's. As an assistant instructor I spent several summers there there as well. Don was a fascinating guy. A little surly but cool nonetheless.
@CharmingIceDS
@CharmingIceDS Жыл бұрын
Risking your life to find a person who you know is dead, and where they are, seems really useless to me. Let that be their graves. They died doing what they loved, probably.
@retriever19golden55
@retriever19golden55 Жыл бұрын
I really don't understand why so many people would risk their lives to recover dead bodies.
@runzelstilzchen8392
@runzelstilzchen8392 Жыл бұрын
The "birth canal"? Isn't that the name of a part in the Nutty Putty Cave, Utah? The cave, where John E. Jones died. He stuck upside-down in a dead end part of the cave.
@ArtistLunatalia
@ArtistLunatalia 2 ай бұрын
It sure is. It's pretty a common name for dangerously tight restrictions and passages in caving systems. You'd think that it would start to sink in for people that it often signifies a one way trip.
@fotty96
@fotty96 Жыл бұрын
Even if I was offered 1 million dollars I would not enter that cave. These stories are my biggest fear. Also people involved in rescue operations should be exempt from medical costs. Damn that sucks!
@carlpanzram7081
@carlpanzram7081 Жыл бұрын
I'd definitely go to the less dangerous part for a million 😂 No way I'm Squeezing through loose gravel tho, that is insane.
@nollienick1121
@nollienick1121 Ай бұрын
@@carlpanzram7081 I could bring my myself to float over the opening lol.
@IditaBugger
@IditaBugger Жыл бұрын
I think the helpful part of this for people reading this who don't dive and want to, or are qualified in Open water and "thinking" about cave diving: Ensure your CAVE CERTIFIED. Any other dive certificate does not make you cave certified. I don't know if these 2 were cave certified or how many tanks of the correct mixture of gases they had on. !!!~Yes expert Cave Divers have died~!!!. You should NEVER ever take your gear off and/or go in backward thru a small opening. Doesn't matter if you see others doing it. Taking any gear off increases your chances of something going wrong. **Taking gear off should be left to the Divers who are qualified cave Mappers which is altogether different than Recreational cave diving.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Yeah good point
@pizzlerot2730
@pizzlerot2730 Жыл бұрын
If they only had one flashlight each and no line, then no, those chuckleheads were absolutely not cave certified. Probably just basic open water, if that.
@tenman7242
@tenman7242 Жыл бұрын
This has become my absolute favorite channel. Love your stories and descriptions.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks. That’s amazing, i really appreciate that
@EdBlack-
@EdBlack- 8 ай бұрын
If caving wasn’t insane enough, doing it while underwater has to be a new level of insanity. Absolutely no for me.
@johnproctor6438
@johnproctor6438 5 ай бұрын
I’m so claustrophobic, even thinking about having to try and wiggle my way through an underwater tunnel like that, is absolutely horrifying.
@TalRohan
@TalRohan Жыл бұрын
excellent narration and very precisely spoken, thankyou for sharing the events surrounding this awful accident
@oganvildevil
@oganvildevil Жыл бұрын
Horseshoers have this thing about everything being a numbers game. Drive enough nails, you get a few bad ones. So don't bank on you being the only person to never drive a bad one, bank on never hanging everything on a single nail. I've definitely done dumb stuff hedging on things going magically different cause it's me, but I never bet the farm.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like that analogy.
@jermainerace4156
@jermainerace4156 Жыл бұрын
When you said horseshoers and numbers I thought of the game, and how statistical it can be. Then I realized you meant farriers (and statistics).
@oganvildevil
@oganvildevil Жыл бұрын
@@jermainerace4156 two things can be true Also, no one ever knows what a farrier is and it's awesome you do
@Ana-kg5qv
@Ana-kg5qv Жыл бұрын
Happy to see another video, was wondering about your channel last week. Keep up the good work, really loving the contextual visuals as well
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’ve been away. Getting back up to speed now. Thanks for watching
@manawalker13
@manawalker13 Жыл бұрын
Your video was in a recommended videos Jermaine clicked on it and I'm actually really impressed you did your homework, and the way you're narrating the story not rushing it you taking the time and showing at the respect that it deserves thank you sir
@thruknobulaxii2020
@thruknobulaxii2020 Жыл бұрын
Really good. A horrifying scenario well told. Just goes to show that it doesn’t have to be overly _stylistic_ or a copy of someone else’s successful format. The content stands on it’s own merit. Good job.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@thruknobulaxii2020
@thruknobulaxii2020 Жыл бұрын
@@waterlinestories 🫡
@Kiefsti
@Kiefsti Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel, but love it! I appreciate there isn't a bunch of migraine inducing screen flickers, and a focus on the story not promoting your products for the first 10 minutes.
@onthefive5615
@onthefive5615 9 ай бұрын
I'm a 35-year PADI instructor and rescue diver, scared sh*tless of cave diving. I did all the speciality trainings so that I could assist with medical rescues at the entrance only. Call me chickensh*t if you must but since I live to dive I have not and will not ever descend into an underwater cave.
@ferzzfilinn
@ferzzfilinn 6 ай бұрын
I'll call you one of the most sensible people I've eve known.
@tinafreeman6937
@tinafreeman6937 5 ай бұрын
Seems like a completely sensible attitude to me!
@psychonauty2020
@psychonauty2020 5 ай бұрын
I am also never going into any caves, praying for the safety of any person who has to 🙏
@tekboi1984
@tekboi1984 4 ай бұрын
Why?
@tekboi1984
@tekboi1984 4 ай бұрын
What's so bad about a cave? Is it the prospect of getting lost or running into a current that sucks you in?
@seagypsybnb
@seagypsybnb Жыл бұрын
It’s disgusting that the hospital charged for dons procedure….
@willo7734
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
This is the most harrowing of all of the stories I’ve seen on this channel. I got anxiety just listening to what happened. Really compelling content!
@bigal7561
@bigal7561 7 ай бұрын
My prayers for the family that lost their loved ones and my prayers to bless those that risked their lives and gave their time and money to retrieve these boys. Bless the diving community and the rescue teams. God bless and protect you.
@VerninTheRat
@VerninTheRat Жыл бұрын
I feel like some of these cave divers that strive for absolute danger, are literally dancing with death, and they know it. It's a waltz of veritable insanity, in my honest opinion. I have always been fascinated by the psychology of such cave divers, as there are numerous stories of things going very bad, very quickly. It's good that the bodies were indeed eventually discovered - but another part of me gets a bit annoyed thinking about the decisions some of these people make; what is to gain, versus what is to lose? Anyone else feel similarly on such matters? I guess I should consider myself lucky to not have ever had such an intense desire for an apparent adrenaline rush. A desire so immensely powerful, that I need to put my life in peril (and possibly rescuer's lives) just for a rush and the ability to say "I did that."
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly the allure. They want to get to the edge and come back to say, I survived! The problem is not knowing where the edge is but still believing you do.
@israelCommitsGenocide
@israelCommitsGenocide Жыл бұрын
those types of people are narcissists, they are simply incapable of caring how they effect other people.
@VerninTheRat
@VerninTheRat Жыл бұрын
@@waterlinestories Yes, I must say I agree with this assessment of the psychological reasons for such acts. And I don't really condemn anyone for living such a lifestyle - It's just in stories like the one above, that you realize how many people are in that ripple-effect, when things do go past the edge. The family, friends, other divers, etc. But the one thing we can take from these occurrences is establishing a strong foundation of a sense of reality for ourselves, when doing potentially life-threatening feats. See, I used to do a lot of prospecting in Colorado, USA. The terrain was insane and required a lot of skill to get to the raw topaz we were in search of. (A lot of rappelling, free-climbing, bouldering) I'll try and abridge this as much as possible: But once we took a highly dangerous route to go to an unseen area for us. Foreboding rocks that had to be traversed carefully, very limited routes to get to the designated area, etc. (the fall would have been one in which you would wish to die from, even if you did survive.) We get to the spot and this storm just rustles up out of nowhere. Moving fast, with lightning and thunder - Now, we are drenched in rain and both my mining partner and I knew, we had to back-track; and fast! So going up was easier, now we are going down and the rocks are soaked in rain. Didn't bring our climbing rope either, because we were idiots that day and just felt so confident. "We got this man. Mind over matter, right?" (Of course we did not anticipate this storm to move over so fast either. Kind of a freak storm, that wasn't even predicted on radar prior to our planning that day out.) Anyways - I will Never forget hanging on to the side of that cliff, shaking and getting pumped to make the last maneuver. One that would get me to a comfortable situation for the rest of the traversal back down. I had to reach across a gap, and pray to whatever god that is listening for it to go well. I would have tumbled hundreds of feet, into pulp, had I fallen. It was a true leap of faith, as I had to throw my body weight over the gap, grab a hold of this rock and hope my foot didn't slip. My friend has already done it, and he's shaken up from it. I remember he was just gleaming at me, eyes-wide, whispering: "Come on man, you gotta do it. It's our only way down and after this we are set" We made it down and ran down the less rocky section of this mountain to the car. But we both learned a valuable lesson that day: We stepped over the edge and just happened to be lucky enough to survive. That time. And I never put myself in a life-threatening situation like that again. The feeling that you are having to make a 50/50 shot; "Do I die today, or will I live through this?" all from an actually avoidable situation was something I'll never forget. It's something I am thankful for; The whole event, I mean. Perhaps a wake-up call from the heavens. So I can understand how we can get into these situations, where we've just gone too far. And that's why the suspense of these diving videos you share are just on a whole other level for me. Because you are out of your element, so to speak, to begin with. And I dunno if it's really true, but I've heard that we currently know more about space than the actual depths of Earth's oceans currently. Which, if true, is a testament for their inhospitable nature for most non-aquatic species.
@VerninTheRat
@VerninTheRat Жыл бұрын
@@israelCommitsGenocide I think in a lot of cases, that is certainly the case. It's why part of me gets a bit frustrated to see someone risk their lives to such a degree, for that rush; When they've got so many people that would be absolutely devastated if they did in fact perish. But I shared a story, somewhat similar, from my youth that you can see if you want. It's a reply to Waterline Stories from the original comment I made here. Because I was thinking about it, and then I remembered a time in which a mining partner and I did something in which we could have died from. All from just wanting to push the limits, I suppose. So even I have done something life threatening. But I did not continue such endeavors in the least. And I think some of the people we are really thinking of in such a discussion, are those who cheat death and go back in for another round.
@samsalamander8147
@samsalamander8147 Жыл бұрын
It reminds of of the free form rock climbers or base jumpers. There was one kid who was a free form climber who wore a parachute and would climb way high up so if he fell he could parachute down. He ended up dying in a wing suit accident with his dog on his back his partner he flew with crashed then he flinched and crashed himself, he was pretty famous in the climbing world for climbing and wing suiting with his dog. His girlfriend said she heard the smack but still went to the meetup point with hopes she was wrong about what she heard.
@patriciajackson6711
@patriciajackson6711 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Floridian. I've spent quite a lot of time in or around water. We moved down here from ATL when I was in 3rd grade. Before we moved down here, 1 of my "adult" cousin's, who was waiting for a notification that he had been accepted into Medical School to become a Dr, went cave diving. He never came home. He was diving with some "friends"; he had decided to go back in....they let him go alone. When his body was recovered, he looked like something had attacked him. We believe that he might have done the damage to himself when he ran out of O2. His acceptance letter to Med School came the day he died. He had been my favorite cousin. We got to spend a lot of time with him the previous year, because my mom had spent more time IN the Hospital than out of it. It was very sad. His dad was a Dr, and, his mom was an RN.
@Hermitpurplx
@Hermitpurplx Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the footage. I’ve watched many videos from other creators who just retell the story; the footage you add really sets the stage.
@minime5380
@minime5380 Жыл бұрын
A friend and I took a dive in an old mine in Cornwall in the 80s, he was experienced I wasn’t. I’m so glad he chose not to go too far as it was pitch black and could’ve gone badly wrong. Scary now not then. Thanks mate
@robertneighbors4091
@robertneighbors4091 Жыл бұрын
I live 30 minutes from Jacob's Well, know all about Don Dibble getting trapped and surviving that dive. I dive for a living installing lake pumps in Lake Travis and Lake Austin, I will never cave dive.
@shineyrow9001
@shineyrow9001 Жыл бұрын
Another great documentary. Thank you. However fascinating, the content is the stuff of nightmares. I'm sure this will give me a sleepless night tonight!
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
We aim to haunt your dreams
@phoenixrising4573
@phoenixrising4573 Жыл бұрын
I have recovered bodies in blackwater before. I've also started in to cave diving. There comes a point where it's no longer a rescue, and it's not worth a diver's life.
@VictoriaMarch13
@VictoriaMarch13 Жыл бұрын
Blackwater in Florida?
@phoenixrising4573
@phoenixrising4573 Жыл бұрын
@@VictoriaMarch13 Texas.
@andrewb325
@andrewb325 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving me a lesson on why I will never cave dive. Probably saved me and any potential rescuers a lot of grief.
@itsacorporatething
@itsacorporatething Жыл бұрын
They shouldn’t attempt a recovery in the first place.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Maybe
@helloidharbl6753
@helloidharbl6753 Жыл бұрын
That sign is downright proper. -Any further and you're swimming with Death.
@gabriel7664
@gabriel7664 Жыл бұрын
1: I am a cave diver. 2: I go commando and habitually zip up my pants in the dark. 3: I bathe in fire ants. Notice how # 2 and 3 sound safer???
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
😂
@ecdasmis
@ecdasmis Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@westondavis1682
@westondavis1682 Жыл бұрын
No problems with #2.... I've done that for 40 years. Can't help someone that doesn't know where their bits are. I don't do caves, no problem with wreckage, but my limited experience and Don's story were enough to know it's not my bag.
@lb1448
@lb1448 5 сағат бұрын
As a Geologist, I knew a colleague who researched volcanism. He was warned not to extract steam samples from an active stratovolcano. Tragically, he was killed by a steam plume and no one could rescue him. At least he died doing what he loved doing. He knew the risks and chose to proceed. Perhaps, same thing could be said about cave diving, mountaineering and high risk sports. By their very nature, environments that are so hostile to human beings are often the most compelling! To paraphrase George Leigh Mallory when asked ‘why Mt. Everest?’ He replied ‘because it is there’. It’s bloody well tragic when participants die in their quest. However, they died doing what they love. People who harshly judge others who don’t assist the dying in extreme environments must be the Monday morning quarterbacks who weren’t there. (my apology, all for the wordiness from this old lady here!) Best wishes, Dr. Lauren
@montecrow1088
@montecrow1088 Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in Austin Texas. I remember hearing about these deaths and several others over the years. I know you said there was no record of a diver that had the bends but I remember reading his name in the newspaper when this happened. Also, I need to correct one thing you said which is you said the water flows from the Trinity aquifer. This is incorrect, it flows from the Edwards Aquifer. The Trinity aquifer is farther north in Texas. I really enjoy following your stories. They are quite informative
@laureng6412
@laureng6412 Жыл бұрын
I definitely have a fear of underwater caves 😅 they are a death sentence if anything goes wromg
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Certainly doesnt improve your odds of survival.
@Pooua
@Pooua Жыл бұрын
I swam in Jacob's Well in 2010. The water coming out of the cave at that point made just a slight ripple across the surface of Cypress Creek. The deepest I dove in the Well was about fifteen feet, as a skin diver.
@mtb416
@mtb416 Жыл бұрын
I used to go around that time. Looking back I can’t believe I’d freedive, often alone, down to about 50 feet, essentially to a third chamber.
@darryldouglas6004
@darryldouglas6004 9 күн бұрын
11:12 Is this what AI thinks an x-ray looks like? 😂 🩻
@petersmith9681
@petersmith9681 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic story... And you have a gift... The gift of delivery... Remember, telling a good joke is all in the delivery... Thank you
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate that
@louisecockell3101
@louisecockell3101 8 ай бұрын
I have never understood the mindset of cave diving at such high risk. Just the idea of diving scared the hell out of me.
@VanK782
@VanK782 Жыл бұрын
I'm kind of surprised there isn't a submarine drone for assessing these sorts of situations instead of sending divers down. At the very least you could get into smaller spaces and collect more data without risking anyone
@MrDmadness
@MrDmadness Жыл бұрын
You can't send a signal through rock is why. It would have to ge hard wired and for even more obvious reasons that wouldn't work,. Respectfully .
@CandyGirl44
@CandyGirl44 Жыл бұрын
What about Elon's submarine? He was going to rescue that football team trapped deep in a cave in Thailand i think?
@britishyankee961
@britishyankee961 Жыл бұрын
There was barely enough room for the divers to squeeze through those caves. It was a modern day miracle that they saved the kids. Elon’s sub would never have fit through the caves.
@localroger
@localroger Жыл бұрын
This all happened decades ago. Modern miniaturized submersibles didn't exist then.
@burnt-reynolds
@burnt-reynolds Жыл бұрын
Easily one of the better cave diving videos. It's not just boring wallpapers like Scary Interesting.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Thanks. We do aim to get images that actually show what were talking about.
@tiffanydegoya
@tiffanydegoya Жыл бұрын
I have heard this story a few times on YT but never like this. So many new details that made me vividly visualize everything that happened, even down to the rescuer Don and his ruptured stomach. I look forward to the other true stories on this channel.
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate that
@michaelstonebreaker3387
@michaelstonebreaker3387 16 күн бұрын
These diving videos stir up an inspiration to stay out of caves.
@MrReymoclif714
@MrReymoclif714 12 күн бұрын
Looking at the chart is stupefying to imagine WHY would anyone want to do this?
@natalieawdry993
@natalieawdry993 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, very well researched, well presented and so much detail. Dibble is a hero.
@CattyWompus.
@CattyWompus. Жыл бұрын
Well, I’ve watched all the airline crash incident videos on KZbin, might as well start diving accidents too. From one horrifying terror to the other.
@loupgarou-dj3tm
@loupgarou-dj3tm Жыл бұрын
Nuclear incidents are good, too.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur Жыл бұрын
But of all of those horrific ways to die, cave diving is the easiest to avoid. Just never do it. It’s a little harder to avoid flying in a plane and even more difficult to avoid fallout.
@charitytanel8107
@charitytanel8107 7 ай бұрын
"Waterline Stories" with "Piper Alpha" oil rig fire is another one.
@ultimateninjaboi
@ultimateninjaboi Жыл бұрын
"You cant keep us out." Narcissism at its finest.
@scottoshea9440
@scottoshea9440 Жыл бұрын
"They're experienced divers in their early 20's"
@thomasadkins7159
@thomasadkins7159 Жыл бұрын
This is a really well thought-out explanation of the story. Thanks!
@turtlejeepjen314
@turtlejeepjen314 10 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO… 💚💚 I am obsessed with cave/dive/mountain disasters. All have a lesson to learn.💀
@djb3v
@djb3v Жыл бұрын
Superb content. Thank you... Also some major AI hand at 6:00 :P
@waterlinestories
@waterlinestories Жыл бұрын
😂 no way he really has 7 fingers.
@Madvizion
@Madvizion Жыл бұрын
I live down the street from Jacob's well. One look and it was a big no. As beautiful as it is,there is an onimous vibe about it. Just admire and move on.
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