The Worst Jab in the Game | Ed to Master (Street Fighter 6)

[@GooeyLagoon]

If this were SFV, the online name would've been Juan Twothree.

[@jman1293]

In SF terms, jabs are usually associated with the fastest buttons, usually light punch or light kick. But in boxing terms it’s done with the lead hand, in Ed’s case his light kick, and those moves with the flicker like the medium punches and even the heavy kicks actually serve as his “jab” as a boxer. And one of the purposes of a jab is to check the opponent’s movements and prevent them from charging in. Boxers usually like to stay at the range of ther jab, and the extended flicker hurtboxes create an illusion of speed. This is purely a critique on his animation, and it’s very very good. His light punches in game are still bad, but his jabs as a “boxer” are solid. Some are even superpowered.

[@shawnr8438]

Not trying to be rude by any means, but in SF terms jab always means light punch. Not sure how many of the newer guys know how the buttons used to be labeled. Jab = light punch Strong = medium punch Fierce = heavy punch Short = light kick Forward = medium kick Roundhouse = heavy kick You'll still hear some people still say low foward. Which is a crouching medium kick. That's where it comes from.

[@Coliflowerz]

@@shawnr8438 you could also look at it as "jab" in the greater scope of all FGs. It's commonly used for a char's fastest button in smash bros, tekken, anime games, etc. though yeah it's usually a punch

[@jman1293]

Yes my comment was purely on the animations and Ed as a boxer. I am aware of the common terms in FGs and Street Fighter. Basically his Jab in the game: poop His Jabs as a boxer: great

[@megapussi]

Thank you for being the only other person I've ever seen talk about this. ive seen SOOOO many people whine about how "boxers are supposed to have good jabs" and its like bro open your eyes *please*

[@Sevatar_VIIIth]

​@@jman1293Wouldn't his jab have farther reach than what it currently does? Ed isn't a little guy, he's tall and lean, wouldn't he have much further reach than he does now? I'm 6'1 (6'2 in a pair of Polo Boots) and similar to Ed (minus being that ripped lol) I'm lean/athletic build and my jab has reach on it which it seems to me Ed certainly would as well? Or am I missing something? I'm no boxer or trained fighter so maybe I am wrong here, do let me know I'm genuinely curious.

[@Giefgrabber]

Ed donated his jabs to Aki.

[@tang620]

It was a life saving procedure, he's such a hero

[@digitaldevil696]

Faye Mata even thanked him on Twitter

[@mikey22355]

I really don’t like aki’s design. She seems like a lazy copy of fang. And he was a terrible boss after Seth

[@plutonash2545]

@@mikey22355 I mean.. she is his student

[@Wafffeling]

The price Ed pays for finally being cool after sfv, a terrible jab

[@ΚρανίΩ]

and negative defense 😔

[@fissilewhistle]

“Cool”

[@Dimebag-wx2rs]

​@@fissilewhistle Yeah hes sick

[@Ireggilar]

​@@Dimebag-wx2rsHe was sick in 5

[@Ariog972]

Ed is NOT cool

[@iannordin5250]

Ed is a really interesting take on his archetype. Usually the "boxer with a command rushdown" has really good jabs and wants to get in and mash lights into combos. Ed is all about staying neutral and using his mediums and heavies to fish for big meaties

[@vetlekarlsen8382]

How can you fish for a meaty, that doesnt make any sense...

[@Hrybread]

​@@vetlekarlsen8382 respectfully, shut up. You either don't know what he meant, in which case you have no right to be condescending, or you knew what he meant, so there's no reason to be a dick

[@markercrayon457]

@@vetlekarlsen8382fish for opportunities that give him meaties is what they meant but fish for meaties makes enough sense

[@Dimebag-wx2rs]

Yeah hes kind of a counter puncher. Theres more to boxing than infighting.

[@utopii6]

Hes an out fighter

[@KittSpiken]

"I never miss!" *Presses Standing Jab*

[@trevonsmith1885]

*sad flailing the air noises*

[@kevingriffith6011]

The thing that makes me happiest about Ed in SF6 is that even though he's a boxer who was trained by Balrog, he doesn't make Balrog or Dudley redundant: he's a very unique boxer in Street Fighter that absolutely leaves enough room in the ring for some classic street fighter boxers.

[@akosimikeee]

Ed's full name is Edward Flickerhands

[@muovikallo]

Balrog should've taught Ed to jab better

[@imtx_xmti]

imagine if he had balrog’s stand jab, shit would be broken

[@PotionSmeller]

He tried but Ed just couldn't cut it. That's why Balrog went out for milk.

[@SamStraker]

​@@PotionSmeller In the lore, Ed beat Balrog and left. If he would've lost, he would still be under balrog's wing atm

[@Fediel]

Haven't played SF6 in a while but I love watching your matches, especially when new characters come out. Also, JP's neck slides forward independent from his body at 15:53

[@garbageknights]

I liked Ed in SFV for the dame reason I like him in SF6 he look cool and the theme of Psycic Boxer is cool

[@baines803]

Same

[@ThatRedHusky]

Ed's mirror footsie: Shadow Charge, stare each other down.

[@tang620]

Shit looking like a wild West quickdraw

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@tang620got your nose lookin ahh fight

[@adams3627]

The SHEER IRONY of 6's first dedicated boxer character having a bad jab, of all things. Love the devs nodding to the popularity of tekken ball by letting him summon one with his lvl 2, though

[@sanicboi9187]

He focused too much on learning how to flicker jab. Now he can't jab normally 😞

[@ΚρανίΩ]

he 123ed too close to the sun😔

[@ThisJustOne]

following in dudley's footsteps

[@iannordin5250]

It's actually pretty cool how they looked at boxing and decided to go with character that represents outfighter-style boxing (stays outside of range, focuses on defensive, powerful punches) rather than the usual "infighter" style of boxing (aggressive, lots of light punches to open people up) you tend to see in fighting games.

[@ValRabbit]

​@@iannordin5250Dudley was already an out-fighter and likely also a counter-puncher. It feels like Ed was made to replace Dudley

[@PillzmansFox]

It's crazy seeing people you fought on video, I was playing in the battle hub yesterday and went 1-10 against ooze (the Ryu in the second fight) as a plat player. Had a few close rounds but he is just as good as he was in this video.

[@Shelby_Arr]

I just find it amusing that we have a boxing character and his jab alternates between a lead hook and lead uppercut, the only two lead-hand punches that aren't a jab.

[@nom-cha]

Ed's most unotherdox boxer trait isn't his psycho powers but his jab 😂

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Take a shot everytime Capcom afraid of the character they make.

[@Shiratto]

Especially if they're inspired by or come directly from 3 or 5 respectively.

[@--.I....I-.--]

Lmao too real

[@Nooctae]

He's cooler than I expected, and it gives me good hopes for Akuma.

[@OutCastSwagg]

Most of the characters are cool, idk why you thought otherwise

[@nogoodchad4473]

I've found a lot of success against a lot of characters by just buffering c.lp into s.lp and then going straight into light psycho blitz. Most characters don't have a good button at range to punish properly if you're spaced out and they block.

[@QuakeCorps]

I think it was even shown in his preview

[@KiTTtheKiDD]

The only thing scaring me off of Ed is his anti-airing - too much jamie trauma

[@Hrybread]

i think his AA is a lot better

[@Uooooooooooooh]

just don't even try anti airing with his DP tbh his HK is solid.

[@--.I....I-.--]

@@Uooooooooooooh honestly he kinda needs both. Hes one of those characters with sucky inconsistent antairs

[@DarriusWilder7]

I found Sajam’s channel after he was done with most of the roster, so I binged all his road to masters. And now I finally get to see one in almost real time😄

[@tang620]

Honestly I'd have much prefered a jab that doesn't even special cancel or give any combos outside of more jabs over this short ass range. It won't stop me from maining him, tho

[@sugarrayrags4320]

How did Ed, a boxer with A Thomas Hearns-inspired style who’s known for his amazing jab not have a jab bro is this makes no sense

[@Ossuten]

Look at his standing light kick animation bro

[@megapussi]

Before you become the 1 millionth goober in the comments to complain that "boxers are supposed to have good jabs," actually look at the animations. Just because we as a community decided to call standing light punch "jab" doesn't mean it has to actually be a jab, and for tons of characters it blatantly isn't one. Eds actual jab, in actual boxing terms, is his standing lk.

[@ΚρανίΩ]

brother in fighting games the jab is the term for fastest normal its not about the animation you are the goobiest of goobers

[@megapussi]

​@@ΚρανίΩlearn how to read. my comment literally says the opposite of what you're suggesting im saying.

[@KittSpiken]

Was wondering why Ed was so Edgy, but then I saw his jab and it clicked.

[@chrisdemille9838]

The thing about Ed in SFV is he was actually rather complex because how bad and sorta half backed he was. Now the complexity is just on purpose!

[@Weebfox]

Road to master is always a jamn good time

[@NidoKnight]

Dude I don’t even know what Ed says when he gets a punish counter throw, but I swear in one of them all I hear is “JOHNNY! DEPP!”

[@dominickjadon]

Idk what is different about the Ed’s I play online but they link those down light punches like there’s no tomorrow. Usually 3 at a time into some type of pressure or combo

[@TheUbberman]

Damn you Sajam... for making this character, - ED - , look so damn cool.

[@PatVX1]

Edit: Also can anyone experienced with the deep Sajam lore tell me what the commentators are saying in the soundclip that plays when someone subs? I can obviously make out something like "And to Level 3, that was Godlike!" but I'm not dead sure what the next line is. I'm a sucker for silly edgy characters (I got Shadow the Hedgehog on the PS2 for Christmas when I was a wee lad) so I liked Ed in SFV. He looks even cooler here hoenstly.

[@derpolcu]

STEVE, MY ARM

[@PatVX1]

@@derpolcu I see, now that you've said it I can hear it haha! What's the context for that lmao

[@NemSumeragi]

​@@PatVX1 the first guy speaking, Tasty Steve, is known for grabbing arms when he gets hype

[@ging5967]

@@PatVX1Sajam has a quick 40 second clip explaining it on his clips channel if you look up “Steve my arm”

[@Chasseur592]

It's "into the level 3- STEVE MY ARM!" There should be a clip of it somewhere, it's from a DBFZ match he was commentating

[@gladiumthebrazilian7803]

Edward *OutBoxer*

[@EvilPineappl]

It'd be neat if his 5LK was more like a traditional jab, and his 5LP had much better reward to offset the extremely short range.

[@jacksypher3403]

A Boxer having the worst jab makes no sense.

[@felipegermano5974]

Does not need to make sense if it exists. "Should" and "is" are not equals.

[@kuaikukia]

This is fighting game, not boxing simulator

[@Doople]

Idk what people smoking. But you right

[@reeeeeeee-e2g]

Look at his "jab" though. Mf is throwing a half-ass uppercut. Wtf even is that?

[@megapussi]

Just because we as a community decided to start calling 5lp "jab" doesnt mean literally every character needs to have an actual literal jab on that button. His jab, as in the actual thing a boxer does, is on light kick. If people actually tried thinking about the game instead of just posting whatever nonsense first comes to their head, we wouldn't have a million of the same goofy comment on every ed video.

[@Colecaraballo93]

At 9:50 if you just do the heavy snatcher after the uppercut during the level 2 you get a safe jump instead of burning the lvl 1 I still do the same because of damage lol.

[@JR-xp1yr]

you can do stuff like whiff punish sLP into 214HP or 214PP, add super, etc, or whiff punish sLP into DR into combo. very easily creates space traps if you understand the situations, can bait/punish the opponent's whiffed jabs in your face because its 4frame and a good whiff punish tool with great conversions. like third strike dudley 5f sHK into ex,machinegun blow. otherwise he also has tons of tools to put himself right on top of his opponent where his jab does pressure well with 2-3 stringed hits. should be able to hit confirm off 2 jabs easily enough though. it's a pretty fine button tbh and i main ed lol, he has a ton going for him

[@HAGENTYRANNY]

29:45 Perfectly timed.

[@keorinkoluexl6365]

Sajam got jab filtered, you hate to see it

[@tsunamiwave170]

10:26 yo, that combo is sick!

[@Swymco]

I'm still trash at this game and couldn't understand why I kept losing when I mashed jab. Now I know why, thanks Sajam.

[@JohnGuyJohn]

9:48 that's neat 1:17:49 that's a slap fight

[@mrteknas]

i think the ryu super reaches after any donkey kick if you do the heavy punch super. his super has different distances with LP MP HP i think; not 100% sure.

[@salttrader4113]

Drive impack kills alot if Eds tools. That charging punch move is also pretty useless outside of dizzy. You are not even plus unless you max charge it, which is very unrealistic to do without getting blown up ...

[@socialcameleon6956]

You should make a vid trying out the Jamie buffs, he's a lot of fun!

[@trixielulamoon2262]

Ed's greatest enemy... A crouching one

[@nobodygood7345]

Whenever I see “Freddy Flicker” I keep thinking “Freddy Got Flickered”

[@Tarnished9200]

The dude can punch holes in them hadukans.

[@damonblack1495]

The thing is - if you played Ed in sf5 you probably use modern controls. Having said that to get the most of out him even in modern you still need to do a lot of qc inputs to get the different snatchers and mini punches. But I know what you mean. He is a totally different kind of character. I agree with the overall sentiment of the video. A lot of people are saying the ultra bad jab range is intended because of how strong Ed is at medium range. But it's a bit too bad. I think once the honeymoon phase is over and the talking heads on the videos aren't playing him so much for the views I think we will see a drop in his popularity. Not being able to punish a good portion of moves that the rest of the cast can is a massive deal. I was pretty surprised to see Punk playing him in the recent TNS offline event in the top 8. But of course he went to Cammy for the losers final and grand final. I also think they will give his standing light the AKI couching light jab treatment. And then he will be competitive with top tiers.

[@servebotfrank4082]

I was surprised about Punk using him but then again, not only is Punk a really good player, counterplay hadn't been formed for Ed. Like I think the flicker oki is going to get much much weaker as people start doing parry into delayed drive rush.

[@dodang_9147]

I think his jab range is short because he has a pull. Pull -> Jab is kinda natural gameplay tactic with him. His neutral is really standing heavy punch.

[@FrankenSteinsGate]

How they gonna make the punchiest character in the game have the worst jab

[@michaelcarrig627]

I like Ed's new tools and find him really fun. But how can you give the boxer a bad jab. Add some range with the flicker effect. You gotta abuse that fireball a little more (coming from someone not as good as you by any means).

[@krasmazov009]

1:28:19 That's exactly what happens to me every match.

[@NickJJU]

There's something really terrifying about a guy that buff wearing skinny jeans

[@cylondorado4582]

I guess Ed is all about FOOSIES.

[@blazilfrazil2]

They changed him so much, man. His combos feel so weak to me now. He was my second fav character in 5, now im struggling to find enjoyment

[@leebaguetteo9607]

i feel ed doesnt really do anything better than other characters rn. his whole gameplay of strike throw mixup is pretty shallow with no overhead. his weak lows mean his good long range flicker only really catches people trying to walk/press buttons. his HK being his only +frame button really solidifies this for me. its hard to say how strong ed is but just take the throw seems to thwart him quite a bit, that and di vs snatcher. like sHP into ex is beat by di.

[@hhu_uhh]

sajam taught me a character in like 15 seconds wtf....

[@ubermaster1]

I am absolutely loving how 90% of this comment section is cracking jokes on Ed ironically having a bad jab.

[@tk-morrow6216]

You have two jabs. LP and LK.

[@abdulhammouda4884]

Yes but how is his jab?

[@rhagos5562]

Gief already holds the title for worst jab in the game

[@baboogah]

Damn they really gave the boxer the worst jab 😔

[@Mene0]

Bruh what, you can get placed in Diamond 5? Since when?

[@yotobimoto6336]

Stand LK is his jab

[@CB66941]

It's funny how a character that uses flicker punches has a terrible jab.

[@originalgamester1]

Noice

[@baines803]

A boxer having a bad jab is hilarious tbh

[@R0kushi]

never read hajime no ippo smh

[@Broski26]

Imagine being a boxer and you have the worst jab in game. At least give it some dmg if not range.

[@r15835]

Dear Capcom. Don't give Ed a "better" jab. He's an outboxer with good pressure both in the corner and out of the corner with Snatch. Him having a longer range on his (already quick) jabs would be broken. Instead, give him special cancels on his stand LK ooooor an 18f standing overhead on forward HK with even better range. Sincerely, An aspiring Ed main.

[@abbrah]

The shit jab is so depressing. Was fully ready to invest in him being my new main, but it's such a crap feeling to whif his jab constantly.

[@libertarianvoter]

Should I accept the developer's challenge to learn how to play to the character's strengths AND weaknesses? Or should I just complain about the weaknesses? I think we know the answer to that.

[@libertarianvoter]

People really don't like it when characters are different and require tactics that are unusual from those of the rest of the cast, huh? Having a character with a 4f low, crazy good long range buttons, and a degenerate utility super doesn't make up for not being able to do short-jab-jab from the same ranges as everyone else so WAAHHHH!!!.

[@amazinggoob9108]

you're a parody account, surely? There's no way you have a name like 'libertarianvoter' and unironically make the comments you do on this channel.

[@MindLeaker]

absolutely brain-dead take. jab hit confirms aren't a thing that characters need to be "good" at. it's an expected default in most 2D fighters. there are no "tactics" here beyond the fact that the move doesn't function, considering their first change to AKI was to immediately fix that issue with her kit in a small patch further demonstrates this.

[@jacobg2394]

9:50

[@biraininhe1]

St.HP into ex 236K will lose to DI.

[@suplexthetrain]

Give him his stupid tiny hat back Capcom

[@jacobg2394]

24:03

[@Grimmjow994]

nah manon has the worst jab in the game

[@jonathanarroyo6319]

Eds jab is worse than facism

[@thepuppetmaster9284]

SF 6 director, Takayuki Nakayama, said they worked with professional boxer to get Ed movement right. But they didn't even bother to make his jab / 4f good :/

[@johngleeman8347]

The jab, the jab, the jab, the jab, the jab! XD

[@wynnjones2435]

Yeah, as someone who really liked sf5 Ed this one really doesn't hit for me I'll probably just stick with Juri but he still seems cool for those who will like to play him here

[@TheCoolguymanly]

I’m actually really sad he released with such an atrocious jab, AND as a much harder to use character. I played Ed in SF5 and loved using him, yeah he was simple but that suited me just fine. I had fun, enjoyed using him and liked the character. They’ve brought him back in SF6 now, and he’s basically a completely different character rebuilt from the ground up. I don’t think this has ever happened with a Street Fighter character before, certainly not after only a SINGLE game of the character existing. This absolutely didn’t happen to Rashid. He’s not the character I played in SF5 anymore at all, and now he’s so much harder to learn and use. Is Endingwalker even playing him? While it’s cool Sajam thinks he’s “a lot cooler now” and that “they cooked making this character”, I can’t help just being really sad that they had to almost completely destroy the playstyle/character they had before, and replace it with one that is not only so much harder to learn to use, but ALSO has the worst fucking jab in the game. A jab so bad it has damn near completely eclipsed any and all discussion about the character, and is the title of this video. It makes it feel like it’s not even worth learning him. I’m very sad about Ed. Was looking forward to him so much, and now what I’ve got is a character I don’t want to play because he’s not at all the character from SF5, and it seems like very few others will play because of his atrocious jab. Why Capcom.

[@pairofrooks]

Yeah us SF4 juri mains felt the same about SFV juri. It happens sometimes and it sucks.

[@keorinkoluexl6365]

Nobody would play Ed if he was still SFV Modern Controls, his updated gameplay is a straight up upgrade. His Jab is a very unnecessary complaint from people judging this character off something that doesn't even factor into his gameplay

[@TheCoolguymanly]

@@pairofrooks Maaaan I really feel for you guys now yeah, your character coming back and just feeling like a shadow of their former selves.

[@TheCoolguymanly]

@@keorinkoluexl6365 I would play him. In a heartbeat. Previous Ed mains like Endingwalker would play him. He would have his target audience. Maybe he wouldn’t have that supposed new WOW factor, but even that has been completely and utterly drowned out by the jab complaints. It’s all I hear. Sajam got legitimately tilted playing the character that’s how bad it is.

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@TheCoolguymanlyhe's now a specialist which neans nobody else in the game plays like him so you gotta learn ed fighter 6. i enjoyed ed in sfv but in 6 idk i think he's just way too cool for this cast, even dj my main is a lot more boring in comparison. ed is different and maybe you don't like it but he's closer to what he shouldve been on day 1, a boxer

[@PoojaMan64]

Ed vs Chun. Is a Justin Wong matchup fosho (lame)

[@joefriedman4260]

the boxer character having the worst jabs in the game is not something i would have predicted but here we are

[@achair7958]

I still can't get over the fact that they gave a BOXER a terrible jab I know the animation he does is actually an upper but still

[@megapussi]

The only reason ed has a terrible "jab" is because the street fighter community decided to call standing lp jab. Eds jab, as in his actual boxing jab, is his standing lk, because they decided to put all of his flicker normals on kicks. Tons of the best "jabs" in this game are shit like a dude poking you with a cane, or a slap, or a chop etc. Capcom didn't give ed a bad jab, the street fighter community gave his uppercut a bad name.

[@TheVoiceofKizzy]

I'm not trying to be an asshole but I truly don't understand what they were trying to do with this character. The boxer is a mid-range fighter? The boxer has the worst job in the game?

[@zacariasgibbs504]

WHY DOES THE BOXER HAS SUCH A BAD JAB the punch is literally made from the boxing term

[@brettdallman3885]

Ironic they gave the boxer a shitty jab. He's so cool, I'm still gonna main him

[@starichokakaded]

It's so interesting to watch how Mr. Beast playing sf6

[@kenshin391]

They still better put Dudley in this game. Dudley is the real boxer that majority of us have been waiting for. 👀

[@elos9291]

Could this video title have been named something a little more unique or do punk’s tweets dictate your content?

[@IamNster]

Its funny his jab is bad when you consider he's a boxer and a good 60% of the art works off having a solid jab. Edit: Bro they really programmed a boxer character that can't even jab properly lmaooo

[@zento_ki]

looks like ed is dudley from usf4 but weaker... is what im seeing

[@elim9054]

Dudley has never had a fireball, has he?

[@zento_ki]

@@elim9054 wow very good observation..youre so smart dude. How come you not the president of the world?

[@elim9054]

@@zento_ki That was actually a genuine question because I didn't play SF4 much, but alright man. Hope you're having a less shitty day than you must have been when you wrote this. 👍

[@zento_ki]

@@elim9054 lol

[@stefanconstantin549]

Ed is the Best character in the game...yet he loses against a mid Ryiu player....Bison just left the chat...crazyiest boxer is now ashamed on how u played that buddy..😂😂😂😂😂

[@takistsibris4325]

Kinda ironic that the boxer has a bad jab

[@joelevy3042]

Downplay is real from a lot of people. That crouching Jab is not trash at all. And yeah, he's busted. That crouching Jab interrupts EVERYTHING and needs a nerf yesterday. I'm talking that shit interrupts EX moves that it shouldn't. Top 3 fastest moves in the game, if not number 1. Not to mention dudes EX DP is WAYYYY busted. We gone see at Red bull. But I'm sure dude wins an upcoming major...and then y'all will see. My bet is that he'll be the new Ken, Akuma will replace Dee Jay and Chun.

[@antythesis751]

His clp is not cancellable, just DI it goober.

[@TempestPharoz]

The jab is good dw.

[@digitaldevil696]

Yeah, not excited about akuma's existence at all. I'd rather have fucking Dan Hibiki instead of this fucking akuma edgelord

[@epiczombi]

Boxer with worst jab. How irony.

[@chimpmasterflex]

I look forward to seeing how Ed gameplay evolves, because he seems incredibly average so far.