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[@zoelav1398]

The fact that he showed up UNANNOUNCED to see this woman whose life he DESTROYED and she just acted like it was fine?????? This is literally a horror movie. It's disgusting that Natalie is turned into a "life lesson" for Harden to make us feel like he has changed???? He hasn't. So gross. Poor Natalie.

[@andshescallingacab4346]

he literally hasn’t too cuz he had sex with natalie on a dare and later on had sex with tessa also on a dare lol but we’re supposed to believe he felt bad about natalie?

[@trinaq]

Poor Natalie, I really hope that she ended up with someone better than Hardin.

[@Melon_Soda5]

​@@redstar1230 are you real

[@bigbearkat2010]

And he still has no real respect for boundaries since she told him to leave at least twice and he's just like "but I flew out to see you, surely that supercedes literally anything else you're doing"

[@PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool]

And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 :) .

[@nady2130]

Any normal, sane girl would be traumatized by Hardin's face if they had to move countries to get away from what he caused

[@shattereddreamer6015]

Okay I wont

[@n4z1f4]

Right, also im pretty sure what he did was a literal crime. She didn't consent to it being sent, and the movie just frames it as "oh baby made a wittle mistake, poor Hardin", like nooo he's disgusting

[@ely3693]

@@n4z1f4 and then he wrote a book about it and profited about someone else's trauma

[@nbassasin8092]

@@n4z1f4 Not an assault, but illegal distribution of "revenge p""rn", which in itself is illegal. It was not illegal to film with her consent, however, it was to foward it to anyone else do you even know what an assault is?

[@n4z1f4]

@@nbassasin8092 my bad, I just use "assault" as a blacket term for s3xual crimes. Also I was referring to it being sent not the filming when I said she didn't consent. I'll changed my wording ig, i didn't realize it was such an issue

[@SabrinaRene4565]

I just simply cannot believe adults write stories like this. I would rather believe it was a 13 year old girl on wattpad

[@anthropomorphicpeanut6160]

I think it is based on fanfiction so... Yeah...

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

Proof we're regressing😮

[@calico_snail]

If i remember correctly it was originally a one direction fanfiction on wattpad

[@SabrinaRene4565]

@@calico_snail Oh lord 😂

[@endees1317]

It was a Harry Styles fanfiction written by a GROWN ASS WOMAN called Anna Todd on wattpad. I hate that I know this. 😒

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

In another life, this story could be about two women, Tess and Natalie, teaming up to take revenge on their verbally, emotionally, and sexually abusive ex-boyfriend who used their pain for his benefit but no we have this.

[@theincredibleknuffibar4834]

And then they fall in love and realise life is better without men, the end

[@BG-kn3nt]

I would love that movie

[@MegaKnight2012]

That would be so much fun, especially if well-crafted, but writing abuse is far easier and it's eaten up like fast food

[@quirogatnonerrat3214]

That's an awesome movie plot, I'd totally watch it! I like your creativity ❤

[@deviousangel336]

I love how, in just 5 seconds, everyone else can write a better story using this concept than the author.

[@Olivia-ek9ib]

The whole “girl who’s told she’s infertile magically becomes pregnant” storyline always seems so insensitive to me. I understand it can happen in real life, but there are many cases where it doesn’t happen, and it can be so devastating to people who want kids. By throwing infertility in as a plot point and then taking it away randomly, it trivializes it and makes it seem like it’s a fun, quirky thing and not a real thing many people go through.

[@ladykynthos]

This! Because the underlaying message there is that without magically getting pregnant they can't be complete and, please just no. There are even people who can get pregnant and don't want to have children. Not *every* single form of happiness and sense of fulfilment in life comes with a baby, and I kinda get "iT's fIcTion", but when that's what always happens with this things it just gets annoying very fast. Why can't I have a character who can't have kids still have a beautiful romance and a wonderful life for once?

[@iclynnx]

This is done in Warrior Cats too, a book series for kids and teens. A cat named Squirrelflight is told she is infertile by a ghost cat named Yellowfang, while her sister is pregnant. The sister can't reveal she had kittens because it was against the code (their law) to have them as a healer, a medicine cat, plus it was from a forbidden and failed romance. So Squirrelflight was in a way pressured to adopt her sister's kittens, but later on, she has kittens of her own with her mate. So this Yellowfang, who was a fan favourite as a living cat in the first set of books from the series, lied about infertility. In a kids book. I don't want to consider Yellowfang in the later series canon, I loved her character, but she became less of a grumpy grandma and more of a rude grandma.

[@vastro921]

​@@iclynnxAs far as I know, after Dawn of the Clans, it kinda falls a little. To be honest, I find it more ridiculous on how in the second arc Crowfeather was sad, but fine with Leafpool not leaving with him because her Clan was more important, but then in the third arc he was such a dick.

[@billibambi]

as someone who has a very low chance of being able to have biological kids,, it genuinely crushes me bc i want to have biological kids so badly because i know i'd be the best mother i could strive to be. its so annoying to me bc our pain is not a little 'oops! gotcha nvm everything is perfect and all the struggle was for nothing, haha im actually not affected by this at all, too bad for you :D' moment

[@nicholeharwood6283]

THIS! I would like your comment a 1000 times if I could. I got lucky and have one child but because of my uterus (bicornuate) and cervix (its also shaped abnormal yay me!) paired with a 0 negative blood type I can't get pregnant without a huge risk of late term miscarriage. The women in my family who share my uterus type have tried to have a larger family despite our uterus shape and have had multiple late term miscarriages that have broken them. In some cases they had a second surviving child but in most they didn't. When you are faced with this news you have to take a step back and look at your very tough situation. Movies like this trivialize these harsh truths making it seem like "lol if they just try everything will work out" they don't show the heartbreak or pain of those in those situations.

[@KISSArmygroupie]

That other chick was basically a stand in for Tessa, let's be real. She HAD a personality until Hardin came along. None of the female characters matter in this movie. It's all how they matter to HIM. This entire series is complete garbage and I'm glad it's over.

[@dikastederook6380]

I honestly prefer Natalie to Tessa. At least I prefer her here. Like, okay we only see her after the event but she seemed more mature, more intelligent and more sure of what she wanted her life to be. Well, before the movie reminded us "Oh yeah, they want us to root for the toxic 14-years old jerk stuck in a young man's body who ruins people's lives because of his emotional unstability and prefers to wallow in his immaturity instead of using his brain".

[@trinaq]

Agreed, Natalie seems like an actual person, unlike Tessa, and I can't believe that she forgave Hardin after he basically ruined her life.

[@officialbrucewayne]

Agreed 💯 percent friggin another movie to glorify the stupidity of twilight and this is just complete garbage. Oh I hate twilight but at least I understood why some keyword some people liked it this I just can't wrap my head around anyone liking this crap.

[@spOOkytimes]

And the way he still insists that she talks to him when she doesn't want him there and still makes everything about him. Every woman in this story is just a learning plot device for this man child, not an actual character. If Hardin treated me like Tessa or Natalie, I would totally push him off that boat.

[@captainwoongcat]

Sadly it is not over....

[@billibambi]

Getting rid of the whole plot of Tessa being infertile bc the only way their marriage would last without gouging eachothers eyes out was if they had kids ☠️☠️

[@Anonymous-ct5pc]

I don't think their marriage would last either way 💀

[@deen7530]

I want a sixth After movie now. It can be called After the Honeymoon and it can be about Tessa and Hardin's marriage breaking down while their son is now emulating Hardin's worst traits and their daughter is on the verge of running away due to her awful family.

[@goldenfish7297]

Actually, in the books they were trying I guess for 2 years and then she got pregnant.. twice

[@benzaiten933]

and we all know, children always solve relationship problems! *siiiiiiigh*

[@Sandrinarhonda]

@@deen7530please noooo

[@trinaq]

When even Tessa's actress didn't want to return because she didn't think another movie was necessary, you know that it's a blatant cash grab!

[@HaileyEd]

Also the guy that plays Hardin is a producer on these films and I hope and pray the next films he ever produces are better than this garbage.

[@Sandrinarhonda]

You would think because she didn’t come back, they would make them breakup lol

[@Suki-hl6vg]

​@@HaileyEd fr tiffins produced this crap😂😂

[@HaileyEd]

@@Suki-hl6vg he's produced all but the first film 😬

[@AndreaJ3]

@@SandrinarhondaYou gotta unfortunately give the fans a “happy ending” even though it makes no sense lol

[@Jonathan_Collins]

What this movie decided to do with Natalie's character is certified gross. Her pulling emotional labor as his therapist and assigning herself half blame for him sending a sex tape to friends for a bet (and wanting to start a fling with the guy who ruined her life doing that) is rage-inducing.

[@dikastederook6380]

The simple fact that she was willing to talk with him. Like, the guy sleeps with her (and I don't know if he was her first but I guess since the movie tells us she was like Tessa at first, sweet and innocent, she was a virgin at the time) for a bet (which is already gross in itself), sends the nudes to his friends (asshole) who then publish them, causing her to lose her possibility to enter the school of her dreams and had to move in a different country just to start over. Like, why the hell hasn't she called some friends or even payed someone to beat the shit out of Hardin and put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life? Why does he still have his c***? Cause he deserves it.

[@opiateutopia]

@@dikastederook6380 from the bits of the dialogue it sounded like she lost all of her friends because of this entire thing, but if she could afford to move to Europe, she could have definitely paid someone

[@benzaiten933]

it would have made much more sense if Natalie was all "just a sec please!" grabbed a letter opener and tried to gouge out Hardin's eyes. if something like this happened to me, forcing me to move to a completely different country, then you can bet I wouldn't be flirting with the piece of crap who did this to me.

[@sophiac8824]

Or if she justifiably blackmailed Hardin- that would've made sense.

[@randomgirlxrulz]

@@opiateutopia I mean, she's British, so she was already in Europe. But I see what you mean, that was still a big move.

[@AYVYN]

Not a single healthy relationship in these movies. Not with their parents, not with their friends, not with their coworkers, not with each other, and not with themselves.

[@mariahdibben4066]

the friends that got married at the end of this movie were in a healthy relationship.

[@mariahdibben4066]

but yeah other than that, no.

[@spOOkytimes]

Pretty sure the author just went through domestic abuse and manipulation resources and modeled Hardin off of warning signs.

[@kieranhair37]

@@mariahdibben4066 There are two books about Landon's relationship, so I wouldn't be surprised if she found a way to make that one unhealthy too. Goodness knows everyone else sucks. I love all the commenters saying Hardin ruined Tessa's life. As if the girl who kissed another guy in front of her boyfriend because she was mad about a misunderstanding and decided to get revenge before talking to him about it was ever going to wind up in a healthy relationship.

[@DNJkbabe98]

😢 J​@@kieranhair37

[@EndThusIAm]

I cannot fathom the amount of money that could be saved if people didn't make all these films and others. The things we could accomplish!

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

Right??? We've lost the plot guys

[@Slut4NoOne]

@@redstar1230no thanks, I’ll take my chances 😊

[@VeeVee_Edits]

Starbucks would cost so much less 😩

[@VeeVee_Edits]

@@Slut4NoOnefax

[@mikethepokemaster2012]

They Sal because 50% of woman like toxic relationships

[@JCLFJanet]

The premise of the entire after series is that men are never fully responsible for their actions because they have some excuse about pain or something, and it’s up to every woman to be their therapist and make them a better person. And when a man admits that he’s a jerk he should get a parade for taking “accountability” despite taking no actions to make up for anything.

[@benzaiten933]

+ if a woman doesn't want to put up with this shit she better feel horrible about it!

[@Lavender856]

U said it perfectly

[@damoji5332]

Didn't a woman write this? What was she thinking

[@nbassasin8092]

worst than premise itself is that some woman wrote it, meaning there are actual girls out there who have this fantasy and find it attractive

[@spOOkytimes]

​@@damoji5332 internalized misogyny

[@billibambi]

honestly the whole movie series becomes even more cringe and hard to take seriously when you realise its basically harry styles x y/n fanfiction 😭

[@Pukeprincess]

It originally was

[@saraya9648]

I mean this one literally has a dialogue where some girl is like "Harry Styles should pay you" to Hardin

[@esosentriccrow3086]

I regret translating this, “subscribe”

[@PurpleMoon799]

poor harry.. jesus

[@freecom1917]

I'm sorry. What?! How am I just knowing this now?

[@trinaq]

The only reason why I root for Hardin and Tessa to be together is so that they won't hurt innocent, decent people with their nonsense. Landon, Noah, Natalie and Trevor all deserve better.

[@sarath431]

Trevor is done dirty. A true gentleman

[@patrickblanchette4337]

Birds of a feather do tend to fly together😏.

[@dikastederook6380]

Yeah, good idea. Just put them together, send them as far away as possible and make sure they NEVER get anywhere close again.

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

​@@sarath431for real Trevor deserves better he should be the main character not fricking Hardin

[@sarath431]

@@Simbala-bq5vy - true.

[@luv4tajhanb]

Hardin saying he’s “trying to be a better person”, but can’t even force the words out without choking 💀

[@christina93d5]

The guy went through major trauma. He didn't go through just a little thing. It was big not only was his father abusive and an alcoholic and abandoned him. But because of him his mother got beaten and raped, and he witnessed the whole thing when he was only a child and he got raped himself by a older woman when he was only 14. So he went through a lot of s***

[@booboocheese06]

@@christina93d5this is still not an excuse?? so he just inflicts the pain he has onto other people?? 😓 he needs therapy idc!!!

[@christina93d5]

@@booboocheese06 Even if he does therapy, he won't get better. Just like that, it'll be a long process. Having an alcoholic father being abused being abandoned. Watching your mother be beaten and raped being raped yourself. When you're only 14 and becoming a alcoholic yourself is not something you just get Over

[@Elysion404]

​@@christina93d5Literally does not automatically give him a free pass to inflict trauma upon others and repeatedly ruin their lives and mental health.

[@christina93d5]

@@Elysion404 Well, never said that, but you can't expect him to be fine and dandy. When he went through so much, he was literally sexually assaulted when he was a 14-year-old and he saw terrible. Things happen to his mother and his father was an alcoholic who abandoned him and Tessa wasn't exactly innocent either.

[@Aitherea]

Kind of sickens me that someone would write a character like Natalie who was victimized the way she was, and then they have her not only give him the time of day, but fall for him??

[@Stolkmen]

"Why haven't you pushed him off the boat into the rudder yet?" I was thinking the EXACT same thing. Him sitting there is just an invitation to get pushed overboard.

[@vanilla4983]

That would actually make for a more interesting movie

[@jbcatz5]

No jury would convict her

[@yep1486]

@@jbcatz5many Jurys would pay her

[@christina93d5]

@@vanilla4983 Natalie was the one who trusted a complete stranger. She jumped right into bed with him without a second thoughts that says a lot about what kind of person she is that she would give her body to a complete stranger and also given consent to film it she was stupid as well. Who let's a complete stranger film. You having sex very stupid.

[@acciobambi]

I love how Tessa isn’t even in the movie and just in the flashbacks. Her actress must be so done with this monstrosity 😭

[@christina93d5]

She refused to be in here because she knew she would be replaced by another woman and her character would now change to be a psychiatrist instead and also she's taking a break from acting. She hasn't filmed anything in almost 2 years.

[@thecara99]

@@christina93d5that’s a lie she had a new film that released last month called the other zoey it was filmed last year

[@christina93d5]

@@thecara99 The other Zoey began filming last February after everything was filmed in July. So no, there was no new project.

[@d_alistair-years]

Annoyingly, the movie doesn’t seem to acknowledge Tessa met Hardin at college because he’d ran from the UK to escape any possible jail time he could’ve got from the Natalie situation

[@ladykynthos]

ª

[@nica7747]

FRRRR

[@christina93d5]

He was never charged with anything dumb a**He went to america because he was accepted into college

[@christina93d5]

@@nica7747 There's nothing for real about anything. That person said he didn't get charged with anything because it was consensual. And they were both legal adults they weren't teenagers. They were 18 years old that's illegally adults. He went to America because he was accepted into college.

[@ameliedavis5940]

​​@@christina93d5sharing nudes without consent is probably a crime

[@Narzissist]

This is the worst movie ever! I really think it‘s far creepier than any horror movie. Like this dude is the biggest assh*le… He ruins Natalies entire life because he sent a pornographic video of her around without her consent… Then he goes to a different country to stalk her (without announcement or consent oc) And then she forgives and kisses him?! Because he was… sorry? But HE rejects HER because he‘s in love with Tessa (who‘s live he‘s also ruined) AND THEN MARRIES TESSA! Like WTF even is this?! 😂

[@blushbb.]

I don’t like the “happily ever after thing” either 😂 They should’ve had Tessa and Hardin get back together and then Natalie do something in revenge for having her pictures leaked and Hardin dies just to show that you need to be careful of the SHITTY child like choices you make. Then have Tessa write a book on Hardins life and sell it. Hardin was selfish and wanted to impress his friends, which is what a lot of people do now and days, my ex was the same way as Hardin so it would’ve been nice to see Hardin get a serious punishment despite growing into a better person after SO long.

[@christina93d5]

People can change stop being so perfect like you think you never did anything wrong in your life. People can change

[@christina93d5]

@@blushbb. You're literally wishing death upon someone. Even if it's fictional, that's still wrong to say people can change stop acting all perfect like you never did anything wrong in your life. People can change people make mistakes. People weren't made to be perfect. Everybody has flaws, and everybody has something and they're like that. Then they done wrong. Everyone has skeletons in their closet nobody is perfect

[@blushbb.]

@@christina93d5 not sure what’s with the emotional answer, I just think it would be a good example to show that you just can’t go around doing things for your own gain. People need to stop this whole “fairytale” ending with terrible men and decent women. it’s a fictional story based on a fanfic, which was even worse, if they can involve, r@p 3, abuse, etc. they can involve at least one death and have it be Hardin. I just think it would be interesting to have seen Natalie get revenge on Hardin since no one really did 😂

[@christina93d5]

@@blushbb. I think being raped when he was 14 and having a horrible abuse of father was punishment enough. No one deserves to be raped,

[@Intrinsety]

The fact that After got 4 sequels is honestly amazing

[@demetriusprime1505]

I mean Velma got a season 2 and heard it was as bad as this one

[@Realwatermelons]

It's also amazing how each is worse than the previous one

[@Royal__Kitsune]

and horrifying

[@Sandrinarhonda]

@@demetriusprime1505at least Velma is painfully funny, this movie is just toxic

[@RandomSwiftie13]

365 days is much worse and that got sequels.

[@qvivnb]

A movie series where you can actually say "not better than Twilight".

[@lv9265]

Twilight is a masterpiece compared to this

[@Claire-de2ej]

They copied twilight

[@khushiU369]

Yes yes. I was sooooo happy when he said this at 12:13 Like, I was a big twilight fan but I realise now it might be cringe (the book was still better, it had content!) All these rip of fanfics are down dirty,they have absolutely Nothing! Twilight for the win Now someone please change the "still a better love story than twilight" taunt to any of these movies😭

[@lucasmiller877]

​@@khushiU369The Twilight books are okay and decent. Enjoyable read for a teenager. But the movies were honestly so bad

[@mishynaofficial]

Ehh, Twilight were toxic af, too.

[@tragiclaila]

I feel sorry for everyone who truly believes that this is a healthy relationship....because their are people who do

[@Bluemoon08]

Ikr! My friend is very much obsessed with this series and I asked them what was so good about it and their reply was " They went through thick and thin but in the end they are always together " and I couldn't be more appalled at their take on a clearly toxic ass relationship.

[@blushbb.]

my ex has done just about everything Hardin has done and I’m still healing from it a year later. They should’ve had Hardin die, or just ANYTHING but the fairytale ending

[@basharalbutseggs8056]

@@Bluemoon08 appalled sure but I’d be more concerned and sympathetic. People grow up in relationships that are usually reflective of the type of love/relationships they had with their parents growing up.

[@RandomSwiftie13]

@@Bluemoon08 Your friend is a type of person who will romanticise their own abuser if they end up in a relationship with one.... Keep an eye out for them with a helping hand.

[@G99304]

That is what is super concerning to me. At 14 I probably would have thought this shit was romantic

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

The fact that you mentioned Hardin's hair and not Tessa's abomination of a wig in that final scene is beyond me. 😂

[@choosehappy9224]

I saw this exact comment word for word on Dylan Is In Trouble's reaction to this movie.

[@DestinyMcunu-on2bg]

@@choosehappy9224 same. I started thinking ive watched this video before

[@Jonathan_Collins]

The fact that Tessa only showed up in flashbacks until the very end and then was like "yeah, let's f*ck" and "I was wrong too" was wild. Almost as wild as that last wig someone made her wear.

[@christina93d5]

She refused to be in the movie because she didn't see no point in returning and plush. As she wanted to take a break from acting, she hasn't filmed anything in almost 3 years.

[@prime7213]

Since Hard boy is played by Young Tom Riddle I’m just going to adopt this as Voldemort’s actual origin.

[@bigbearkat2010]

With how douchey, whiny and possessive he is the twist should be it was Snape all along.

[@thearachel1618]

His name is hero 🥱

[@kendrarasberry3078]

@@thearachel1618Honestly, I don’t know who would find Hero attractive after watching these movies, but that’s just me.

[@christina93d5]

@@kendrarasberry3078 He's literally playing a character. He's an actor it's called acting. He's actually a sweetheart in real life. I've met him. And he's one of the nicest people.

[@seasonalchanges14]

Comparing Hardin to Calliou is too accurate 💀

[@bigbearkat2010]

Who is that the bigger insult to?

[@theplastictootle4709]

@@bigbearkat2010caillou

[@LesbianIdiot-uc3fi]

No he was unnecessarily rude to caillou it would even be mean comparing him to the devil

[@seasonalchanges14]

Y'all are hilarious 😭😂

[@lumityviktuuristanartist4100]

​@@bigbearkat2010 caillou ofc , at least he's hilarious and yk...a KID ?!?

[@KitsuneRokaku]

Natalie should've just taken that boat into international waters, got him super drunk, tied him to the anchor and shoved him off the boat. No one would convict her much less blame her and no one would know. She'd be the *real* hero of these movies.

[@avantibalaji4246]

"Im happy its over and sad that it happened!!" The line is the essence of this entire series😂

[@bloodcottoncandy1514]

This was absolutely written by an abusive person by nature. They literally think this is how you treat people normally.

[@tkps]

It can also be a fantasy. Many women fantasise about being treated a certain way if they 'get the guy' in the end but they don't want it IRL. They know RL can't be manipulated like their fantasies and because it is one they can also gloss over how terribly they'd feel if really treated that way. They are in total control. It's a thing as old as time and can come from the minds of perfectly reasonable women. (Most yaoi with the reluctant/dominant male lovers are all written by women and it's women who read them). We shouldn't read too much into it. Though fantasies of this nature don't look good portrayed as real life.

[@christina93d5]

@@tkps The point of the story is to let people know that they can get better. Harden was sexually abused and physically abuand witnessed things. A child should never witness but he changed at the end and got better. Most people who go through these things don't survive it. And they end up committing suicide, but harden didn't. He knew he needed help and he fought for it.

[@AwesTex]

I’ve had a TERRIBLE day, thank you for saving it. You are a true hero

[@Inactivechannel-r6]

You’re welcome

[@meghanrodriguez2393]

Hope your day has gotten better and for the rest of your week go by smoothly!

[@jojo-xh5ik]

Alex will do that for you. he's youtube's MVP

[@uranianorthstar4194]

For a while I hoped that Natalie was just orchestrating a complicated revenge scheme. But nope.

[@revi6482]

To get some info about the pregnancy: In the books it wasn’t that simple. Tessa actually miscarried and it was handled in the same taste as her nearly getting “fake” raped by Steffs friend, who’s sister Hardin fucked too. The books are so much worse.

[@DaraLindsey]

What...what even is that sentence

[@devanshimishra9791]

I sincerely want to ask what the fuck❓❓❓‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@Gfan-yi7tm]

"Romance pustules grown from the sepsis of Twilight." MY GUY. One Alex to another, BRILLIANT.

[@TheLucyannaVIP]

As someone who hated myself enough to read these torture books Tessa does struggle getting pregnant. When they try after getting married. She even suffers a miscarriage. But then they do get lucky to have 2 children

[@kateemma22]

If Natalie had pushed him into the boat engine then this would have been an amazing series. All redeemed. Ends with Tessa and Natalie meeting at his funeral and falling in love.

[@The_Nightsong]

The fact that we now see Twilight at something somewhat good, really shows how far we have fallen 😅😅😅

[@Sasu123456789x1]

Exactly 💯

[@sarikajoshi7156]

To be honest the premise of twilight is actually good if u minus edward and bella love story the history of vampires and were wolf was really nicely built plus it had good supporting characters .

[@TheBGYeti]

I love the "I didn't think it would be published" line is comedy when she points out to him he shipped it out to multiple publishers.

[@gaearin1662]

The thing is. Hardin never really had character development. 'Feeling bad or sad' is not character development. I usually don't like toxic dudes in fiction but I like it when they eventually turn into Green flags through visible development. Hardin was a red flag from start to finish. No redeeming qualities whatsoever

[@christina93d5]

He stopped drinking he did change a lot. The movies just don't show that really the book. Still, it shows in the book how much he changed.

[@gaearin1662]

Nope! read the books. Still a red flag in the books. Even worse actually Hes still a manipulative toxic SOB.@@christina93d5

[@tarathoughts13]

The sad thing is, it could have worked. IMAGINE, how good it was if it was about him coming over his trauma and fixing himself and then eventually falling in love again, remove all the nudes and exposing and abuse and that shit, the actors good and they have chemistry, the script just sucks.

[@gaearin1662]

Nah I feel like they could have done 3 movies maximum. Yes he could fix himself but the best ending would have been them ending up with different people because they are toxic together. Them ending up with different people would be growth@@tarathoughts13

[@christina93d5]

@@tarathoughts13 He did change, though sadly, the movies don't really show it, but he does change. He becomes a better person and he's a good partner to test out and a great father to their kids.

[@q.l.1363]

I accidentally watched the first one but not the rest. So this was my first time hearing the excepts from the book Hardin wrote. Hearing how Hardin talked about Tessa’s infertility as her inability to give HIM SMALLER VERSIONS OF HIM made me GAG. This series was a disease in the YA romance world 😭

[@bensneb360]

So apparently, this was only supposed to be four movies, but they were making so much money they decided to make five, but Josephine Langford didn’t want to return, so all this Natalie stuff is literally filler until they get to the original ending

[@alicealfred9986]

Hope they paid her still 😂

[@tkps]

That they still do that is so annoying. I'm an oldie and I read what was meant to be a trilogy years ago that was really good. Looked forward to the 3rd one coming out and ending the story but the books got successful and it just dragged on. I bought the next 2 but it went off on such tangents with the main character just fading off I never fell for that again. I assume the GoT readers feel the same about that series. If you intend 2, 3 or 4, that's where you stop. Write something new if you're supposed to be good at it.

[@DizzyBusy]

​@@tkpsI assure you, that's not at all how A Song of Ice and Fire (aka Game of Thrones) readers feel. Yes, a planned time jump was cancelled in the last book, but we're still eagerly waiting for the next books that probably will never be published

[@kieranhair37]

@@DizzyBusy My honest hope is that he finally releases the last book and it's just the exact same ending they gave the TV show. The number of tweets written in all caps will soar that day.

[@DizzyBusy]

@@kieranhair37 It will probably end with Tree Bran on the throne, but he's controlled either by Blood Raven, the children of the forest, or the weirwood tree network itself. (This is informed on GRRM's previous works about mind controlling entities). My prediction is that some mysterious powers are playing the longest game, and it's all waaay beyond Varys or Littlefinger's punching weight.

[@RikaMe2000]

"I am happy it's over, and I'm sad that it happened" ~Alex Meyers

[@starlure]

A girl in my class liked After like in an unironic genuine way. It was insane I didn't mean to but I gave her a stink eye

[@AYVYN]

Not extreme enough. Give her the pink eye.

[@starlure]

@@AYVYN noted😭

[@thearachel1618]

I bet you’re one of those ppl who didn’t read the after books to understand it all 🥱

[@starlure]

@@thearachel1618 Funnily enough I did. I was a huge 1D stan and read the first 3 books in one go and I couldn't bear it.

[@starlure]

@@thearachel1618 To sum it up they had a fight, they made up, smut, fight again, angry smut, make up. A romanticized toxic relationship

[@claracatlady9844]

Harden did not deserve a Happy Ending. Him being put in jail for sharing nudes, personal information, burning down a house etc. would have been my preferred ending

[@christina93d5]

He had a d*** good reason for burning that house a lot of bad things happened to him and there. He was abused by his alcoholic father. Him and his mother were poor and he witnessed his mother being beaten and raped in that house by 3 men. And he got raped in that house when he was 14.

[@christina93d5]

@@claracatlady9844 Hard and went through a lot more than a person should ever not go thru. He has had a bad life and he changes at the end. You people are so f****** judgmental people can change. You can expect someone like him who's been through so much to be perfectly fine. In dandy, it's a process you can't expect him to be fine with a stamp of finger. It's a long process.

[@markaliii3413]

To make it worse for tose who don't know, After was written by a 26 year old woman writting fan fic with graphic sex scenes and violence for an 18 year old boy. Harry Styles wasn't even legal when she begun writting. And she also had the nerve to invite him to the premiere of the first movie AS IF Harry would ever be interested to go see the fantasies a grown ass woman had for him when he was a kid, to the big screen💀 Anna Todd is a weirdo who just got lucky. There are so many amazing authors who will never see their work published let along being made in a movie, yet that weirdo had her trash made into not one or two but FIVE movies and sold millions of books.

[@vaitheesjppa8220]

the Last Line was iconic " I am Happy that it's over but sad that it even happend"

[@christina93d5]

How was it iconic? The entire movie was about Natalie.

[@christina93d5]

How was it iconic? The entire movie was about Natalie.

[@KitsuneAdorable]

This is why WattPad is a bad place to look for new films. 🤦🏻‍♀️Why self published authors believe that relationships similar to the ones seen in this film series is “healthy.” Gaslighting then passively aggressively blaming your spouse for not being able to have kids is gross.

[@meaadal-hadidi7306]

There are some amazing books on Wattpad that deserve even more than all the attention and effort that went into After, but no one cares about those.

[@lucyl4603]

Idk, I think there’s room for realistic horror 🤔

[@danicee]

This series is the reason I stopped using Wattpad, honestly made me sick of "rom-coms" because nothing about this was romantic and it's only funny because of how cringe their behavior was. Basically pretty people flirting, hooking up, cheating, fighting, making up and not learning from their mistakes

[@naveerarizwan5329]

There are some rlly good wattpad books though you just gotta know where to look tbh

[@danicee]

@@naveerarizwan5329 I know, I used to write on Wattpad

[@kendrarasberry3078]

I genuinely don’t believe these actors’ careers are ever going to recover after this.

[@lilil9752]

I think they could, but she’ll do it by her own merits while Hero will still have a career for being a nepo nephew and a pasable face with zero talent

[@blunpinccp]

next movie called: “After Unemployment”

[@blackdragoness21]

To be fair, the actors had a terrible script to work with.

[@DizzyBusy]

I hope Mimi Keene continues working. I really like her in Sex Education

[@kendrarasberry3078]

@@blunpinccp Dang, LOL

[@HarmonyHope7534]

Just when I needed something goofy in my life, you deliver. My garlic bread may have molded, but you make me smile.

[@astralmarmaux]

sorry for your loss

[@HarmonyHope7534]

@@astralmarmaux the garlic bread will be remembered fondly

[@DaraLindsey]

Rip the garlic bread, will be missed

[@queentj3674]

As someone whose name is Tessa, I am SO HAPPY that these movies are finally over

[@creeperlou4464]

The fact it was literally the last 5 minutes of the actual film (credits included) that he went and propsed to her like nothing happened and they have 2 kids. Completely insane

[@pedrovallefin8406]

Seriously, what even is this? Its like they got ten minutes left of actual film and decided to make an entire separate movie out of it based on pure filler instead of including the five minutes proposal and happy ending in the last movie where it may have make more sense (while still being completely ridiculous).

[@berriesblue4302]

I found out from a different review, Amanda the Jedi's, that Tessa's actress did not sign on for this movie, so all her scenes were extra footage from the fourth. So that could be why so many montages!

[@NinaaCald]

So many comments are saying Josephine didn't sign for the movie as she didn't want to return. I heard that she had schedule conflicts as she was filming The Other Zoey. 🤷‍♀

[@berriesblue4302]

@@NinaaCald Fair enough! "Signing on" might be the wrong term, but either way she wasn't on set is what I'm trying to say

[@NinaaCald]

@@berriesblue4302 I wasn't disregarding what you were saying. I somewhat agree because maybe she knew the direction it was going and tried to sign up for something else instead. The rumours I've heard of why she didn't return haven't exactly been glowing & if it is true then in a way it is a shame.

[@christina93d5]

@@NinaaCald That wasn't true at all. The others, though we started filming in November of 2021. They stop. Ped filming in December of that. Same year and started filming again in January of 2022. After everything didn't start filming until July of 2022.

[@NinaaCald]

@@christina93d5 I never said it was true, I was going off what I had read. Maybe, they had to stop at some point due to COVID. I'm not saying my statements are true and correct. I'm just having a general conversation.

[@adriennechoksy1890]

The best way this could have ended would be that they broke up, found compatible partners, and enjoyed their lives apart

[@awkwardotter13]

I think Hardin should've ended up alone, he's an awful person

[@christina93d5]

How do you know human tests are not compatible just because they were toxic. I'm sorry, but what relationship is perfect because I don't never seen a relationship that's perfect. I've yet to find that every relationship is toxic in their own ways. You people are dumb.

[@christina93d5]

@@awkwardotter13 He changes I'm sure you're not perfect either. Stop acting like you are.

[@awkwardotter13]

@@christina93d5 you seem to have taken a random KZbin comment about a fictional character very seriously and very personal 😂 I hope you get through whatever this is. And I don't think I'm perfect but i know that a lot of Hardin's actions were awful.

[@christina93d5]

@@awkwardotter13 And people can always change. That's the point of the story that he changed and became a better person. Trauma is not easy to overcome, especially with all the bad things that he went through. But he became a better person. People can change.

[@Miretafin]

The thing that bothers me the most is them having kids. I know what I’m talking about because my dad is very much like Hardin: extremely self-centered, violent, always shouting and lacking empathy. In other words, exactly the kind of person who should not have children. Romanticizing toxic people having kids is such a terrible thing to do. We all know that in real life Hardin would make his children’s lives a living hell out of jealousy.

[@christina93d5]

Well, hardin change sweetie. And he's actually a very good father. Maybe stop being so d*** judgmental and not everyone is like your s***** father. He didn't want to change but hardin did

[@marvell2192]

If anything the cycle of abuse will continue. Jealousy, trust issues, anger issues. Realisticly the family would just broke apart less than a year

[@christina93d5]

@@marvell2192 Nah, it doesn't you obviously never read the books.

[@Miretafin]

Those books (and movies) are fantasy. In fantasy, anything is possible: even the biggest monster in the world can be tamed just because the author wants so. In real life people can’t change unless they really want to. Someone like Hardin would never even think about changing in real life because those kinds of people truly believe that they have never done anything wrong. I’m not saying you’re not allowed to enjoy the story. It just worries me when (especially young) girls can’t tell fantasy and real life apart. It's downright irresponsible to try to sell this thought that it's a good girl's responsibility to date a toxic man and fix him.

[@christina93d5]

@@Miretafin Really, because I see lots of people. Just like this who change and became better people so you're wrong

[@lola-sz8gq]

twilight had one high and so many people have been trying to ride of off that for years

[@JadeDarby]

Challenge: take a drink for every actor replacement over the series

[@SoVidushi]

If I was Natalie, Hardin would be dead.

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

I am a 45 year old married man with two kids living in Tokyo. I would never watch this movie. But I love that I can experience it through your channel my man, I feel it might be helping me to prepare for when my four year old daughter starts tweening up!

[@TereAdasme]

the fact that the actress didn't return for this one, and they just used whatever they filmed before and a shit ton of flashbacks just goes to say that this series should've ended like 10 movies ago.

[@rockinggirl0610]

what??

[@TereAdasme]

@rockinggirl0610 the actress that played Tessa didn't return for the last movie, so all new footage of her was filmed during the previous movie just to add it to the next one

[@christina93d5]

@@TereAdasme She didn't come back because she knew another woman will be replacing her as delete actress and She's taking a break from acting. She hasn't filmed anything in 2 years.

[@TereAdasme]

@christina93d5 I mean, she said that she felt there was nothing more to add to the story to make coming back worth it, and also, her non flashback scenes were filmed with the 4th(?) movie in like 2020-2021

[@JustPraiseHim09]

@@christina93d5You keep saying that but homegirl has a movie out right now called The Other Zoey. So obviously she was filming something in the past 2 years.

[@debrupendugupta232]

Mimi Keene seems to play the 'reject girl' to the male protagonist in every work she is in

[@christina93d5]

Because after is not about her. It would make no sense for him to be with her

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Someone else that I watch brought up something from BoJack Horseman (not watched the show myself, maybe one day I will) and that there was a scene in which BoJack had seriously hurt a friend when they really needed them. Upon the learning the friend has cancer, he apologizes to him for the incident, but the friend says, "I don't accept your apology." BoJack repeats it, surprised he's not getting the typical response, and the friend repeats, "I don't accept your apology. You hurt me when I really needed you and you don't get to just say you're sorry and expect everything to be better. You have to live with the consequences of your actions." And that is what this whole After series ultimately should've ended on. I'm so fucking tired of characters doing awful things to someone and an apology getting to wipe it all away. The woman who's life was ruined in this movie by having those images shared? Yeah, that's a case of no amount of apologies ever making it better and it really is disheartening to not see an asshole like Hardin (fuck, I learned that cretin's name) not get the shit in his face that he deserves. A person like that does not deserve forgiveness. And to then be an abusive, gaslighting asshole to his...clearly mentally unwell "girlfriend" just adds the cherry on top of why he deserves zero happiness.

[@Ellechan868]

I also screamed profusely during the proposal scene. Thank you for validating my reaction.

[@JustCallMeKopi]

I work at a movie theatre and the most people that showed up to watch this in a single showing was 4 but most the time it was 0 then the odd time 1 or 2 tween girls would show up. I can't believe anybody could think this is a story worth making into a movie

[@crazycockatoo5816]

My country (Australia) cancelled the theatrical release altogether because After Ever Happy did so poorly here, and instead it went directly to Amazon Prime. This is where I wasted the free trial for Amazon just for this dumb movie and now I regret doing that because it's the worst one of the lot.

[@VecenSorrow]

It’s so expensive lol can you blame them? I watched pirated video 😂

[@Jamei_]

Bro, I wrote a story like this on archive for our own 6 years ago when I was 12 💀✨

[@TheFallenangelF]

Alex: "How to get gorl?" The "After" movies: "Just ruin her life so she has to move to another country"

[@mallorycarpinski1160]

"All this dude had to do was read one Berenstain Bears book..."😂😂😂❤ That just sent me. So true though. I'm going to start handing those books out to awful people. Maybe they'll learn and grow too...😅

[@firecrakerj3312]

Funny how After and Riverdale both ended in the same year.

[@katrialle]

OMG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@balue04]

Same 😭

[@Blackwolf1473]

Thank you for watching this series so i didn’t have to! 😊 your sacrifice does not come unnoticed! 😔✊

[@whateverreichtdes]

haha. same. i also did that with riverdale. way funnier and also time saving.

[@flawedandnotperfect]

The fact Sir Alex watched The After series so we didn't have to I salute Sir Alex braincells

[@na1959]

So, as we know the 4th after movie was supposed to be the last one but then they decided otherwise. So, at that point the ending had already been filmed. Josephine Langford had a contract of only four movies so she decided against returning for a fifth one and that's why this time its more about hardin himself, i guess rather than tessa and hardin. Most of tessa screentime is really only flashbacks and they just attached the fourth movie ending here instead so the conclusion seems even more ridiculous than it would have been had tessa been in the movie.

[@bvoyelr]

"All of these other romance pustules that have grown from the sepsis of Twilight..." Your poetry is beyond comparison, Alex!

[@Itsmezak0]

I'm not gonna lie I think the problem with these movies is he gets whatever he wants he can ruin someone's life entirely and he still gets "the girl" he ruined two girls lives and BOTH of them wanted him back

[@nahoolux]

Soo What did we learn with all this amount of literally-nothing Series? : Hardin really has a talent for ruining the lives of naively ignorant (or just stupid) girls but for some reason they still want us to see him as a misunderstood Bad Boy.

[@RB-vo4gi]

It’s sickening that they try to victim blame Natalie “You didn’t force me to do anything” (or they let her gaslight herself?) and then like… try to force us to sympathize with Hardin as if he’s not a complete garbage human being who’s ruined so many peoples lives.

[@christina93d5]

Why is she jumping into bed with a guy? She doesn't even know and letting a complete stranger film her she was at fault too. She just ripped her close off for a complete stranger

[@GloryofGore666]

​@@christina93d5This is quite possibly the most disgusting statement I've seen on the internet in several months

[@christina93d5]

@@GloryofGore666 Telling women to be careful And not just sleep with anyone, it's not disgusting. It's actually very good advice. She actually thought a total stranger is not gonna show people. He doesn't know you don't know him. How do you trust a total stranger that he won't show the sex tape to other people.

[@GloryofGore666]

@@christina93d5 The way you worded it and the context of the comment (+ the fact that you've made countless other comments defending Hardin, a fictional character, with your whole self) makes it seem like you were trying to justify it because the woman wasn't careful, not like you were offering safety advice. Yes people should be more cautious when having one night stands and not allow sketchy behavior but you don't respond to a statement about the bad things someone did with "well the victim did x y and z." It's like responding to a statement about someone getting beat up on the street with "well they should've carried pepper spray." Maybe, but the point is that there shouldn't be people doing bad things and making people fear for their safety to begin with.

[@christina93d5]

@@GloryofGore666 Not defending anything. But harden had a reputation and she had to be aware of it. She actually thought he liked her. It was very clear he did not right when he said. Can I film it? That's when she should have said no and get up and leave right when a total stranger. You don't even know said he wanted to film you. That's when you leave.

[@nono.k]

so we all knew which movie he was talking about without it being in the title of the video right 😂

[@amames254]

Yes 😂

[@theduskqueen]

Yep!

[@daii4863]

The fact that a woman wrote this still baffles me, but also that part where he got clocked tf out by Nathalie’s friend was so satisfying 😭

[@IrieTheGreat]

Sometimes, there are some movies out there in the world that don’t need sequels or continuations to movies. Who agrees?

[@nloubriel2336]

True and true 😌🤣

[@deen7530]

And sometimes, there are movies that shouldn't have been made at all.

[@IrieTheGreat]

@@deen7530 *COUGH* MEAN GIRLS 2 *COUGH*

[@PM-cv2ty]

You know it’s bad when you can defend Twilight when comparing After and Twilight

[@lavelap5]

It's hard to even watch videos about it, I can't imagine watching this whole thing. Thanks Alex to make this somehow bearable

[@marie-evegagne424]

The worst is the movies are just as bad as the books. I remember reading them and forgetting why Tessa and walking red flag were in a fight again because there were so many of them. Also the author fully projected herself in the books as Tessa (or at least that's what I noticed) which is crazy unhealthy.

[@angelamittemaiste]

I was so effing mad after the movie ended that I walked out of the cinema with my best friend and just kept screaming about it being the worst ending, the whole movie made us believe that they can find their happy ending without ending up together and self love and stuff BUT MARRIAGE?? KIDS??

[@connor_who]

You would hope it was over but it is actually... not. There is a prequel and a sequel in the works. I am sorry Alex. I am so so sorry.

[@Sasu123456789x1]

Omg noooo

[@vanilla4983]

Wha- huh? What would you put for a prequel?! Harden just being worse somehow but giving him a sad backstory to justify his actions?

[@choosehappy9224]

You're kidding me

[@RandomSwiftie13]

ARE YOU SERIOUS???

[@kieranhair37]

@@vanilla4983 Assuming they're basing this on the book Before, the reviews on Amazon suggest it'll be a pretty thinly plotted movie. Apparently very little of it gives us any new background on him, and most of it is just showing us things we already know about but from his perspective. But one of the reviews refers to Hardin as someone who's almost always a gentleman but who can occasionally be rude. So, uh...maybe he doesn't do anything too bad in this one?

[@youidiot-hx4kj]

i didn't watch AFTER to avoid spoilers for alex's videos, cause alex's vid is more if a movie than after will ever be

[@cuddlysharkcandy]

Dang..."The romance pustules from the sepsis of Twilight"...i don't know that I've ever heard anything more scathing in my life! 😂 True though

[@evody-jr1821]

So hardin destroyed this girl's life so bad she lost her scholarship got ostracized until she literally moved to another country and this dude just shows up and she's basically unphased by his sudden appearance and goes on and fall in love with him again😂😂

[@crazee_lemon]

"pustules that have grown from the sepsis of Twilight" is such a beautiful metaphor 😭😭😭

[@321ALEX]

OMG FINALLY…THIS FILM JUST PROMOTES TOXICITY 😂

[@mary-magdaleneteetepuabil5680]

After I lost all my brain cells😂😂😂😂. I just can’t

[@arvo_septus]

"I'm happy that its over and I'm sad that it happened" I think this is probably the best description.

[@chosen14035]

I love how you can genuinely tell how frustrated alex is with this crap🤣🤣

[@drishe08]

If someone did this to me like how Hardin did to Natalie...I would have gone mental if i met him again and did not forgive him at all I think this movie is telling us that We should forgive even though that person because of that person you lost your scholarship and your family kicked you out

[@thequeenoftightpants]

Can't believe Alex didn't comment on the scene where Hardin gets beaten up. It was the best scene in the entire movie. 😂

[@christina93d5]

You people go after him but literally saying that he deserves to get beaten up just because he made a lot of mistakes just because he's not perfect. How dare he go through trauma? You're right, he deserves everything he got. How dare he go through all the stuff? He went through even though he was just a child.

[@gabrielebartkute7359]

Thanks for watching and informing about these films so that I wouldn't need it! The whole plot is so unrealistic, the relationships are so toxic that even looking these cut outs makes me uneasy. But a good entertainment material for Alex!

[@justme1220]

To put himself through all of THIS JUST THIS deserves all the awards

[@vaishnaviprajapati2120]

When I saw HALF the title through notif and didn't even see the thumbnail, I already knew which series this is

[@ItzMeCad]

Missed opportunity to call the movie “Happily ever after” 😔

[@Anonymous-ct5pc]

One of them was "After ever happy" which is happy ever after in reverse which is almost the same. I'd like to think they didn't name the last sequel "Happily ever after" because they got divorced in the future because can you imagine Hardin of all people to be a good dad and husband?

[@ItzMeCad]

@@Anonymous-ct5pc Ha! Perfect point, though knowing the writing team behind these movies figured they’d consider this a “happy ending” lol

[@Anonymous-ct5pc]

@@ItzMeCad Oh yeah sometimes I forget a whole group of adults green flagged this.

[@CynderSpirit]

They can't call it that because there are already two movies called that one is that Cinderella movie with Drew Barrymore and I believe Happily Ever After maybe a cartoon movie if I'm not mistaken.

[@AprilRose77]

The way I RAN to this video as soon as the notification popped up! I damn near broke my arm for you Alex 😂

[@iaoor3317]

I watched the first after movie when a friend lent me his Netflix a few years back. It was so bad that me and my husband tried hate watching the second movie. We slept through it. It's crazy to see how it got progressively worse.