The Worst New Superhero Costumes of the 90s

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Image Comics' popularity in the 90s really hurt Marvel and DC throughout the decade. Marvel and DC were lacking in top tier artistic talent and they both kept trying to redesign their characters to chase popular trends. It didn't work well.
This episode takes a look at many of these short-lived looks and looks for common techniques to figure out where things went wrong.
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@geremynakhone826
@geremynakhone826 6 жыл бұрын
Daredevil's blind, I don't think he knows how any of his suits look like good or bad
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone slipped that bad outfit into his rotation as a prank? :)
@connercampbell9086
@connercampbell9086 6 жыл бұрын
How does he know his costume is red? If I were his villian, I'd fuck with him a lot. "CURSE YOUR NAVY BLUE HIDE, DAREDEVIL!" or; "You're not as stealthy as you think with all the pink tie-dye."
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 6 жыл бұрын
I guess even villains are not evil enough to mind f the blind guy. :) That or maybe he has everything tagged in brail or something.
@skidooshlayman12
@skidooshlayman12 6 жыл бұрын
Daredevil can feel the heat given off of certain colors, depending on the amount of light they reflect.
@LibraGamesUnlimited
@LibraGamesUnlimited 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because that makes total sense. :)
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 5 жыл бұрын
“Not looking any deeper than surface level” Honestly with some early Image books like Youngblood and the like, there wasn’t much else than surface level.
@CrazyPangolinLady
@CrazyPangolinLady 4 жыл бұрын
Youngblood. SPEAKING of terrible design.
@puckerings
@puckerings 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing - if that was the wrong lesson to take, what was the right one? There wasn't any other one so far as I can tell.
@qty1315
@qty1315 2 жыл бұрын
@@puckerings Probably the auteur attitude beneath the style. Metal Gear Solid games are stupid, for instance, but there's an ernestness that is very endearing. However, a 'quirky' game like Sunset Overdrive doing something similar feels patronizing, I guess. Similar thing with Youngblood. A group of hip new characters that the creator honestly thought were cool feels endearing even if the stories were pretty dreadful. But, Captain America becoming a badass edgelord feels very insincere.
@Duothimir
@Duothimir 2 жыл бұрын
I still love Badrock to this day. Dude is literally a teenager in a giant stone body, doesn't take anything seriously (even when he really should), has a great relationship with his still very much alive parents. He's a fun, if not especially deep, contrast to the grim 'n' gritty Wolverine clones Liefeld liked to churn out by the dozens.
@TheZooropaBaby
@TheZooropaBaby 2 жыл бұрын
@@puckerings also I feel like most of Image founders had great sense of visuals and designs...sure stories are garbage but they knew how to create appealing looking characters. Jim Lee's books had cool spaceships and stuff, which is also talent, designing something even super minute. I feel like that kind of skill is pretty hard, you can't just hire random guy and say "hey design something like that"
@JomasterTheSecond
@JomasterTheSecond 4 жыл бұрын
"This is War Machine. Seriously." Couldn't have said it better myself.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the armor, not so much looks wise, but story wise and with Dan Abnett had worked the conclusion of those Eidolon living armors into his cosmic run.
@malusignatius
@malusignatius 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, Cool Mint Superman vs. Cinnamon Fresh Superman...
@SnDFrostey
@SnDFrostey 4 жыл бұрын
Try Cherry or ===NEW=== Blue Raspberry Pepsi!
@GenericProtagonist118
@GenericProtagonist118 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget 10,000 power lemony zest Superman!
@doriangreen3231
@doriangreen3231 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Electric Blue Superman suit!
@malusignatius
@malusignatius 3 жыл бұрын
@@doriangreen3231 It was, in fairness, a pretty cool outfit. I just found a lot of the late '90's *NEWER! BIGGER! AND NOW WITH MORE POCKETS!* character re-inventions really unnecessary and over the top. Sidenote, is your name a Squirrel Girl reference? Because if so that's awesome.
@theartistknownaszack9234
@theartistknownaszack9234 3 жыл бұрын
Cool mint was always my favorite
@Sener
@Sener 6 жыл бұрын
Azbat shouldn't be on this list. The whole point of the entire story was that the classic Batman was better. Their feud ends with Azrael literally losing the fight BECAUSE of his bulky costume with built in night vision.
@NoJusticeNoPeace
@NoJusticeNoPeace 6 жыл бұрын
AzBat was intended to be a take-that from DC to the fanboiz screaming for a darker, edgier Batman. But DC was hedging their bets; if AzBat had taken off, they would have gone with it. The sad thing is that in other comic channels where the average age is considerably younger than here, AzBat is super-popular. They're celebrating his return to the comics completely without irony. Which explains why this is just about the only comic channel I follow any more.
@Joe-fq6bz
@Joe-fq6bz 6 жыл бұрын
Good point and that suit wasn't that bad at all. When I was a kid I loved it. Whys it on the list?
@NoJusticeNoPeace
@NoJusticeNoPeace 6 жыл бұрын
You loved it _because_ you were a kid. It's what an 11 year old thinks is "s00per k00l d00d!!!11". Which was the point.
@31leoceara
@31leoceara 6 жыл бұрын
Azbat's costume was actually cool, depending on the artist who drew it. Mike Manley did it great.
@andrewjensen8128
@andrewjensen8128 6 жыл бұрын
Azrael's costume could look awesome at times. The armor looked bulky and impractical. during Knightfall. The Azrael suit looked much better as Jean Paul Valley trimmed down the costume after Knightfall.
@GeneralKenobi75
@GeneralKenobi75 5 жыл бұрын
Apart from the jacket, I actually really liked Scarlet Witch's new outfit for the Crossing. I actually preferred it to her original design which always looked stupid to me. Maybe it was the head thing she always wore, and the rest was kind of generic. But the outfit she had in the crossing actually looked mystical like a sorceress which fitted her.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny they deleted her head thing when so many characters were getting kickboxing guards in the 90s.
@johnathonhaney8291
@johnathonhaney8291 6 жыл бұрын
1:23 Just as an aside, Image was being true to its name in being just as shallow. It's why several of the founders wound up going back to the majors starting with the misbegotten Heroes Reborn series by Liefeld and Lee. Or does no one else note the irony of Jim Lee now being in the upper echelons of DC Entertainment all these years later?
@kebimtheaccess3839
@kebimtheaccess3839 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone looks like 90s Gambit or Havoc lol
@SuperSaiyanGuyver
@SuperSaiyanGuyver 6 жыл бұрын
Kebim TheAccess Or Rogue. All of those were Jim Lee designs before he left for Image. Take a look at that "The Crossing" cover and then at something like WildCATs or Stormwatch #1s because that's what they were going for.
@livanbard
@livanbard 5 жыл бұрын
Expect Thor that looks he is cosplaying jojos
@DavidSmith-or7eu
@DavidSmith-or7eu 4 жыл бұрын
dude.... dude.... dude.
@MrAsmontero
@MrAsmontero 5 жыл бұрын
That "what were they thinking?!" reminded me of the AVGN.
@Kintizen
@Kintizen 6 жыл бұрын
Evil Ironman, sounds exactly the same as Hydra Cap' America. Marvel never learn.
@oldmanlogan9616
@oldmanlogan9616 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@milliondollarmistake
@milliondollarmistake 5 жыл бұрын
Hydra Cap made sense and wasn't terrible.
@thewerewolff7248
@thewerewolff7248 5 жыл бұрын
sitevil rogers is actually pretty cool.
@podperson1744
@podperson1744 4 жыл бұрын
@@milliondollarmistake I actually really enjoyed that story
@GenericProtagonist118
@GenericProtagonist118 4 жыл бұрын
History doesn't repeat itself, it often rhymes.
@Pyrela
@Pyrela 6 жыл бұрын
Looked like Scarlet Witch raided Gambit's wardrobe.
@TheUncannykodiak
@TheUncannykodiak 6 жыл бұрын
Azreal Batman’s first costume was badass. It was also obvious Bruce was set up to re find himself. People don’t like writing about Bruce’s mistakes and fallibility and knightfall was actually a good story to show his having to fix a problem he created. He made a bad decision and had to deal with it.
@jimodonnelly7762
@jimodonnelly7762 6 жыл бұрын
"Knightfall" was just another one of DC's cash grabs - like "Crisis for Infinite Cash," uh, "On Inifinite Earths," "the Death of Superman," "Hush," and "New 52." They set up some continuity-shaking event, have it run in a dozen titles for a year (making you go broke trying to keep up with the story) and finally end it with everything back to where it was before the 'big event.' What? Why, yes, I don't like DC's editorial approach. How could you tell?
@aster1760
@aster1760 5 жыл бұрын
Jim O'Donnelly, how the hell do you manage reading comics in general then? 90% of comic book companies have the same approach my guy.
@cardozoluciano9479
@cardozoluciano9479 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimodonnelly7762 none of those events/sagas that you mentioned can be called cash-grab, don't use a word when you don't get it's meaning. All of those had a reason, mostly of the events of DC is to fix/re-arrange the universe/timeline.
@SkuffD
@SkuffD 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this era and it really pushed me out of comics for a very long time. Looking back and hearing the behind the scenes decisions that fueled it, I can understand it better. I always wondered what the deal with Guy Gardner was and had NO idea it was MMPR related.
@flyingpigproductions5934
@flyingpigproductions5934 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get how it is, they don't shape shift right?
@Clarkthek
@Clarkthek 5 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... you're going to criticize character's clothing... in THAT shirt?
@sambrown329
@sambrown329 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that shirt IS remarkably strange...my attention was wandering and I wondered WHERE the HELL I would wear a shirt like that---bowling? Goose-stepping down the street in Camden, New Jersey? As a psycho DENTIST?
@VincentWatkinsCLXXXII
@VincentWatkinsCLXXXII 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just sitting over here wondering where I can get a shirt like that. Looks very comfortable.
@mslightbulb
@mslightbulb 4 жыл бұрын
It makes me think of a flight attendant, a golfing field and a traffic police officer.
@JamanoidusRex
@JamanoidusRex 4 жыл бұрын
@@mslightbulb It makes me think of a little girl in a pink dress, sticking a hot dog, through a donut.
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 4 жыл бұрын
Sam Brown have you ever been to Camden? You would get beat up and not even mugged for wearing that shit in Camden. I live in Jersey and that town is ROUGH!
@droog2242
@droog2242 6 жыл бұрын
"Knightfall" "Knightquest" "Knightsend" And the build up for the story is fantastic. I got so many image comics from the 90s. Savage Dragon. Union. Supreme. Warblade. Pitt. Spawn. Stormwatch. Loved image in the 90s.
@Captain_MonsterFart
@Captain_MonsterFart 6 жыл бұрын
Image comics was nothing but big fights page after page.
@andreworr4307
@andreworr4307 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed stormwatch,spawn and a few others but preferred the wildstorm universe with stormwatch ,Wildcats,gen13 and my favourite the Authority,also loved the admittedly strange wildstorm/DC crossover and the earlier JLA,Wildcats one,also one of the relatively few who enjoyed worlds end
@kevintanza6968
@kevintanza6968 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreworr4307 WildStorm was the best Image universe. It's a shame Jim Lee sold it to DC.
@baileymoore7779
@baileymoore7779 3 жыл бұрын
Savage Dragon #11-58 is my favorite comics run of all time.
@Joe-fq6bz
@Joe-fq6bz 6 жыл бұрын
Azrael was great. Me and my bro as kids loved it. As someone else said bat writers were making a great point w azrael
@TheVileOne
@TheVileOne 6 жыл бұрын
Wolverine mutating like that was caused by Cable’s son (Tyler) and not Magneto.
@toddthesweatynerdguy1450
@toddthesweatynerdguy1450 6 жыл бұрын
That's what I was going to say.
@jasondiend4248
@jasondiend4248 6 жыл бұрын
He ignores a lot of context just to bash things. Yes there were horrible decisions with a lot of these costumes. However he just blames one thing ignores the stories and context on things.
@cthulhupthagn5771
@cthulhupthagn5771 6 жыл бұрын
No, the art style was just shit. And Cable has a son? That's news on me.
@jasondiend4248
@jasondiend4248 6 жыл бұрын
He even made appearance in the X-men the animated series. He isn't that unknown of a character.
@dalemuir1105
@dalemuir1105 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. And he gradually de-mutated to a point where he looked normal for a long time with the bone claws, before getting his adamantium back.
@emuguru
@emuguru 6 жыл бұрын
I personally loved the look of supes in the black/silver outfit after his return from death. Brief, but very nice looking, and logically Kryptonian.
@scinnyc
@scinnyc 6 жыл бұрын
Azrael Batman and Daredevil had great costumes in the 90s. And i liked Electro Superman too
@galaxyquestg3141
@galaxyquestg3141 5 жыл бұрын
Those costumes were ALL bad ass...I would really love to know what the pinnacle of costume changes actually were to anyone who thought those designs were shit.
@Goldenbane
@Goldenbane 5 жыл бұрын
I liked Azreal's older blue and grey suit, but later versions were awful.
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 6 жыл бұрын
That Tony Stark sleeper storyline sounds eerily similar... What do you think Cap? Hahaha, thanks a lot for a wonderful video. The Guy Gardner idea sounded interesting on paper if he was actually like a ranger with the powers and I'm psyched for Cobra Convergence.
@PlayaSinNombre
@PlayaSinNombre 4 жыл бұрын
The Guy Gardner Arc was very fun, if slightly nonsensical. If you can find it in the back issue bins, it is worth a read.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
Dear god The Crossing was bad. And Insay this as someone who thought Force Works had SOME pote tial even if mishandled. Mainly since I really like USAgent.
@jodimaclean6530
@jodimaclean6530 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I liked blue/red superman, too. Your assessment of Invisible Woman and Avengers was most on point. Also, I liked Azbats, but what about Batman's suddenly 20 foot long cape mirroring Spawn's enormous cape?
@feroohki8367
@feroohki8367 10 ай бұрын
I started writing and realized this is a 4 year old comment, but what's a trip down memory lane? 😅 I just read through Knightfall and kept my momentum going to run from there all the way up to Brubakers batman. That cape is doing everything but looking practical & Batman looks like a straight up Burton character which is ironic that Burton didn't even come close to that look with him. I finally came across an artist give him normal proportions after what seemed like looking at the costume through Bruce's eyes and the fear he was trying to instill in his mind.
@jaybone4655
@jaybone4655 5 жыл бұрын
I kind of like Azreal's suit. It's the perfect mirrior of Batman. It's very loud and mechanical, the very opposite of Bruce's suit. And I completely agree with the Superman design.
@Townsvilletale
@Townsvilletale 6 жыл бұрын
Arguably Marvel's FOUNDATION as a company was chasing trends. Chasing trends in the 1940s (which gave us the likes of Captain America and Patsy Walker, both incredibly derivative AND incredibly successful). Chasing trends in the 1950s (which gave us heaps of westerns, romance comics and monster comics) Chasing trends in the 1960s (which gave us the ENTIRE 'Marvel Age of Comics' which was so successful you had a cycle of Marvel CHASING THEIR OWN TAIL, giving us characters like Spider-Man, and the Fantastic Four, and their derivatives like Daredevil and the X-men). Chasing trends in the 1970s (which gave us Marvel's horror cycle, their magazines, characters like Luke Cage (blacksploitation), Shang Chi and Iron Fist (Kung Fu, and led to the beginning of Marvel's LICENSED comics cashing in on the likes of Star Wars and Conan and quickly after that whatever the fuck else they could get their hands on) I'll stop there... but the point is... comics are a quick-turnaround, low cost enterprise. They are MADE to chase trends. It can get out of hand -- but usually it was actually a really SUCCESSFUL model for comics. I think you really hit the nail on the head that the problem, the REAL problem, was that Marvel (and DC to an extent too) had their artist base smashed by the 1990s boom which saw a lot of great or popular artists jump ship.
@ComicTropes
@ComicTropes 6 жыл бұрын
Right, chasing the trend isn't the end of the argument I was presenting. Instead, it was chasing a trend without a passionate writer or talented artist to pull it off. And even some of what I listed was successful. Batman, Wolverine, Aquaman. Those all did well.
@kyriss12
@kyriss12 6 жыл бұрын
I actually liked wolverines feral look initially. It got ridiculous once they started making him look like a mutated offspring of a troll that skull fucked arse face from preacher.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
+kyriss12 The Ben Reilly Spider-Man and costume was kind of cool, especially the costume.
@RokuroCarisu
@RokuroCarisu 6 жыл бұрын
The "trend" they are currently chasing might actually be their downfall: Trying to cater to left populists who complain a lot about comics, _but don't actually read any,_ while increasingly alienating, if not insulting their real customer base.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
+RokuroCarisu I think Disney wants to alienate the fans and put comic ships out of business. They are already licensing characters out to IDW.
@AkuTenshiiZero
@AkuTenshiiZero 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I'm a 90's kid, I love this trash. I love the extreme outfits and pointless pouches. I like the insane, Liefeld-style anatomy. And hell, I STILL wear bomber jackets. I don't care it it's bad, it's my childhood and I love it all.
@remowhat3879
@remowhat3879 4 жыл бұрын
The DCEU reminds me of 90s comic books on the big screen.
@dodge2362
@dodge2362 6 жыл бұрын
So I have to ask the question then of how people felt about Kitty Pride's image irregularity? From what I recall she went through enough costumes to open a store.
@31leoceara
@31leoceara 6 жыл бұрын
I have never had a definite image of Kitty Pride because of that. Even her face features kept changing from artist to artist.
@arturoalvarezkawai6773
@arturoalvarezkawai6773 4 жыл бұрын
In general, I do agree with most of your appreciations here. However, in my opinion, most changes to DC's characters were not just an answer to the visuals of IMAGE, but rather a reaction to what readers demanded at the time: darker, ruthless, even sexier, anti-heroes. I wouldn't add Batman's Knightfall and WW's Contest to this list, because in my opinion they were rather attempts to revitalise their longest running characters, just like the Death of Superman and Emerald Twilight were. And regarding the latter, I believe it was one the best stories ever told on the fall of a hero, because you could understand Jordan's motivation and even relate to it.
@theautisticguitarist7560
@theautisticguitarist7560 4 жыл бұрын
"Cybercat CY-bercat Why am I fighting you?"
@rasputinsbeard3899
@rasputinsbeard3899 5 жыл бұрын
Booster Gold's original suit had been destroyed in the battle against Doomsday. The suit he wore after was made by Blue Beetle, so that Booster could still do the crime-fighty-thingy.
@gevdarg
@gevdarg 5 жыл бұрын
I'm here for the corny, yet hilarious, openings.
@ZakEmber
@ZakEmber 4 жыл бұрын
I need to find the issues of Batman from the 90's, but YES, you are right on the money! In one of the letters to the editor, the editors responded that indeed, Jean-Paul Valley was a Batman they put in place to contrast with Bruce. The idea of 'giving the fans what they wanted... a Batman who might kill', was in the works for a while. And the purpose was exactly as you stated: when compared to the original, the new version fell very short. (I wish to God more people took that lesson to heart!) I didn't originally like Knightfall... I thought Bane was gimmicky, I didn't like Jean-Paul, (though I DID like some of the upgrades to the Batsuit: gliding wings has become a staple in Batman comics ever since, even though Batman Returns doesn't get the credit it deserves for using the idea on the big screen), and I really hated that we were getting a darker, edgier Batman who used "The System" instead of good ol' fashioned hard work. Despite what I thought at the time, now the work is certainly a milestone in Batman comics, for better or for worse. Honestly? I'd love to see the Batsuit redesigned with more armor in it... just not the horrendous style from the 90's! Despite all the hell I give them for Az-Bats, I did love a faster, more fluid, gliding, armored batsuit. I still think the base ideas were good, and it's one of the reasons I enjoyed Batman Beyond as a TV show and the Arkham series of games so much for giving us tastes of these elements.
@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork
@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up reading 90s comics, so I never noticed anything wrong with them. In the last two years, I read through Stan Lee's entire run of Spider-Man along with the Roger Stern era and then moved on to the Michelinie run by McFarlane and Larsen. I also did the same with Chris Claremont's run of X-Men through the 90s Age of Apocalypse story. Holy christ, how did I manage to stay into comics when I was a kid? When I reached the Larsen/Jim Lee stuff for Spider-Man and X-Men, the writing took a major nosedive and outside of a few specific series like Geoff Johns' Green Lantern run and part of JMS' Spider-Man run, I don't think comics ever came back. X-Men got even worse when they threw away the costumes and replaced them with the movie looks. Spider-Man has been on another decline ever since One More Day. DC's quality fluctuates between stories and is now going to get worse since they hired Bendis. Marvel never recovered.
@skymarshallmarz5573
@skymarshallmarz5573 4 жыл бұрын
There is always balance in clothing or armor design. Many of these artists were not trained in design. Its relatively easy to copy an established suit, but very hard to design a new, balanced, applicable suit to fit the character and abilities.
@limeskelly
@limeskelly 5 жыл бұрын
I just randomly discovered your channel yesterday. Great stuff, you’ve got a new subscriber!
@mikeperry7335
@mikeperry7335 6 жыл бұрын
i liked the azrael suit
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 6 жыл бұрын
My two personal favorite Batman suits would have to be Azrael's Batman's suit or the Batman Beyond suit.
@solid_snake_6653
@solid_snake_6653 Жыл бұрын
This is the first episode I ever saw. I've been hooked ever since. Through your ups and downs, I'm a huge fan.
@Malidictus
@Malidictus 4 жыл бұрын
What the hell is this madness behind you? I know this is an old video, but JESUS that collection of artwork! :)
@johnminehan1148
@johnminehan1148 6 жыл бұрын
Armor on one side makes sense if you have a buckler-type shield, as with some kind of gladiators.
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 6 жыл бұрын
Aquaman straight up improved looks wise in the nineties, the beard fits him so well, and c'mon a pirate hook for the king of the seas is genius, and they explained why he got it. I do also like Wonder Woman's look to a degree because Diana just comes across as the kind of person who would just not care. Like, "screw you mom I am going to beat up bad guys whether you like it or not." And let's be real, her normal costume is ridiculous, but extrordinarily iconic so it works. Plus Artemis was using the original costume so it's not like they threw it out. You made a very good point about electric blue superman, it can be seen as break from normal stuff to permit new ideas because they went all in with a new look and powers, AND the costume doesn't even look that terrible. Daredevil could have looked worse, and of anyone mentioned in the armor section it does probably make the most sense for him. It's also weird how an accessory can work so well for one character, and poorly for another. Image Rouge from X-men TAS without her jacket, whereas it does feel out of place on Black Widow. Also strange is how some characters just weren't changed in appearance at all in the nineties. Robin (Tim Drake) got to keep his pants that were such an improvement over previous Robin costumes, the Flash never changes, Nightcrawler has been like the only X-man to almost never change his costume, (I think there was only one period in the 2000s when he did and now he is back in the cool one), and then there are updates that just worked and basically stuck like Shadowcat adopting X-men blue and yellow, dropping the green, baggy sleeves look (I think that was during an artist shift but I'm not sure) I find the nineties such an interesting time to analyze in comics, and I love making fun of all the pouches, mullets, and especially Clark Kent's ponytail.
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
Comics were fun and written for the mainstream in the 90s. Diana's biker outfit was awesome, much better than the Taliban designed thing that they put her in a few years ago that the SJW media pundit politburo loved so much. You're right Diana wouldn't give a shit. She's a pre Christian warrior tribes woman from a tropical island where marriage does not exist. The stripper biker look is actually more in character than her patriotic for America one piece. (I think the great Robin redesign was done by Neal Adams.)
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 6 жыл бұрын
Mark J What "SJW" costume, do you mean the ones with pants?
@markj6606
@markj6606 6 жыл бұрын
+Excellsion The 2012 one where she has two layers of clothing on and shoulder pads and wrist knives. It's fucking awful, but the SJWs who colonized my entertainment claimed to love it. The 90s stripper biker look is actually more in character, but I'll be honest, I like to see women in is a few clothes as possible.
@mightybaloo1880
@mightybaloo1880 6 жыл бұрын
Excellsion see, pants and jackets equals the SJW agenda. This guy is a real...well...he's nuts.
@ashleighcalloway886
@ashleighcalloway886 6 жыл бұрын
@@mightybaloo1880 wonder woman's pants look is really cute and seems slightly more practical
@zero11010
@zero11010 9 ай бұрын
Most of this really seems to amount to "I don't like it when things change." Yeah, the biker shorts and bikini top with a leather jacket is totally impactical. Unlike when she started with a microskirt, and a tube top. Most of this is all nonsense, man. Virtually all comic costumes are pretty bad, and most heroes have had a series of pretty terrible looking costumes.
@mrspeigel3593
@mrspeigel3593 4 жыл бұрын
No one ever mentions that the Setinels said Wolverine wasn't a mutant, they just grabbed him anyway since he wasnt a normal human and was hanging out with a bunch of mutants.
@florinivan6907
@florinivan6907 3 жыл бұрын
Invisible Woman was under the influence of a teenage personality named Horndog.
@cynthiamiller586
@cynthiamiller586 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, "armoring up" has come back in a big way, especially in live-action movies. I really wish that trend would go away again.
@freggittlegamint2830
@freggittlegamint2830 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Knightfall. Where everyones' favorite crime fighter gets bested by a drug addict in a gimp mask and shortly after is replaced with the neverending Batman toyline in comic form.
@nicholase82
@nicholase82 6 жыл бұрын
I loved a lot of those 90s costumes. These days all the costumes are based on the ones that are decades old or completely Bland.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 5 жыл бұрын
Those "old" and "bland" costumes stuck around because they're _good._ They're creative and fitting to the characters' personalities. However, a little change should be encouraged. A *little* change. Batman's costume, for example, changed a lot over the decades, but a little at a time. It was subtle enough that people barely noticed. If in the 1970s, his costume went from the familiar Silver Age blue to what it is today, people would have gotten whiplash. Critics would have mocked the new design for trying too hard. If you're going to change something iconic, you have to do it with moderation or for a very good reason in-story. Otherwise, you're making a huge gamble.
@Prosegoldmusic
@Prosegoldmusic 4 жыл бұрын
the photo of the guy gardner artist with the gun is fucking hilarious
@joshuaolsoncook
@joshuaolsoncook 4 жыл бұрын
Amon: Appcalypse of Devilman felt very 90s-esque. In my opinion though alot of these 90s armors were designed with the purpose of selling toys with polished chrome finishes.
@fbauzo024fb
@fbauzo024fb 4 жыл бұрын
I like how the superwoman series pulled from the blue/white red/white superman looks. And warmachine's skull helmet looked like it should have been punishers warmachine run.
@Kagatoamv
@Kagatoamv 4 жыл бұрын
Recently discovered your channel and I've been gone through your stuff. About Heroes Reborn; a great thing that came out of that was the initial run of Thunderbolts! Loved those first 12 issues, the new costume designs and the big reveal.
@drawfiend3104
@drawfiend3104 5 жыл бұрын
5:49 - You think this tattoo on my face stands for Odin?!
@g.thomashart9368
@g.thomashart9368 4 жыл бұрын
Wolverine’s head (at 11:00) looks like one of those mops you can use to clean out the dust around your refrigerator’s power cord…🤪
@nagilumsnangilima
@nagilumsnangilima Жыл бұрын
21 years after Avengers: The Crossing where Kang went back in time and made Tony Stark evil, Nick Spencer tried the same thing: this time with Steve Rogers where Red Skull used the Cosmic Cube to go back in time and make Steve Rogers evil from his inception thus spawning the Secret Empire event-BTW Nick Spencer borrowed the Secret Empire event title from a Steve Englehardt story arc in the mid-1970s, which was in the pages of Captain America and the Falcon.
@bartlett454
@bartlett454 4 жыл бұрын
So many terrible artists rose to prominence in the shitty 90s era of comics and these costumes reflect that ridiculous decade.
@turboking9238
@turboking9238 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, the 90s were full of shoulder pads, spikes, and pouches! Oh also all the girls are always wearing skintight suits, even if it's full body armor.
@VazzVegas
@VazzVegas 2 жыл бұрын
Daredevil's blind; he probably still thinks his costume is yellow and red.
@haveabananaproductions9117
@haveabananaproductions9117 2 жыл бұрын
The miniskirt could also be called a tunic
@Diegokid
@Diegokid 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the Daredevil armored look.
@fido2644
@fido2644 6 жыл бұрын
Don't know I kind of liked the DareDevil make over. I was always a fan of BoosterGold up till they came out with the armored version. But great video and you made allot of good points.
@randallmakhanya
@randallmakhanya 5 жыл бұрын
such a severely underrated channel. Goddamn.
@showkingsent
@showkingsent 4 жыл бұрын
Booster Gold's armor was actually a life support machine (built by Blue Beetle) after he was mortally wounded in the Justice League: Judgment Day storyline.
@rorylumley4727
@rorylumley4727 Жыл бұрын
I think an exception is alan scotts 90s look. It basically got rid of the purple and added more green. Which streenlined a design that had a little too much going on.
@timgonzales2891
@timgonzales2891 2 жыл бұрын
I personally kinda dig electric blue and red superman. Idk. I'd like to see it again for like a 12 issue arc. Kinda like what they've done with black suit spider-man lately. That doctor fate was terrible good god.
@HighMarshalBiggusDickus
@HighMarshalBiggusDickus 4 жыл бұрын
I think the most disturbing part about that man menacingly pointing a pistol at me isn’t that his finger is on the trigger ready to blow me away, but the fact that he is using a high point
@WhoniverseReview
@WhoniverseReview 4 жыл бұрын
Superman Blue is one of the coolest Superman looks, along with early Rebirth-era Black shirt & jeans Superman.
@khhnator
@khhnator 6 жыл бұрын
i do like that scarlet witch costume, but then i always found scarlet witch original costume to be atrocious
@HelenMaxwellfan
@HelenMaxwellfan 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, that Hawkeye 70' outfit is a tunic. They wore those somewhere around Europe before the Roman Empire. It's been worn in other countries too. I'm guessing it was a thrownback to fashion of centuries ago.
@sinnamon
@sinnamon 2 ай бұрын
I really do wish you’d make a 2024 revisit of this. There’s been quite a few stinkers since.
@amakusashooter
@amakusashooter 5 жыл бұрын
war machines outfit looks like a rejected bionicle
@Jose-se9pu
@Jose-se9pu 5 жыл бұрын
That Psylocke panel...damn it, Jim Lee, almost went blind when I was a kid because of that panel
@chancylvania
@chancylvania 5 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty crazy that those guy Gardner shape shifting powers lasted till Geoff Johns did GL rebirth
@horith8033
@horith8033 6 жыл бұрын
Love your work. Keep it up.
@alistair4909
@alistair4909 6 жыл бұрын
dude nice blood blockade battle front pic. Love that anime need to read the manga.
@horith8033
@horith8033 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@thevlaka
@thevlaka 5 жыл бұрын
wolverine didnt turn feral because magneto removed his adamantium. It was because the dark riders attempted to rebond adamantium to his skeleton and he willed it ouf ot himself.
@siddhantaroi
@siddhantaroi 4 жыл бұрын
And top of that he turned into normal because he trained with Elektra to gain his humanity back after 10 issues.
@newspooiechannel
@newspooiechannel 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the bulky mid/late 90s Ghost Rider costume with the bright yellow, orange and blue color scheme?
@Spyderist
@Spyderist 6 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty solid and informative comic show
@brodieroomojo
@brodieroomojo 4 жыл бұрын
Id like to see more first concept heros especially hulk and superman, hulk being more jekyl and hyde with him being mindless anger with ony a moral compass and supes having gravitational powers only, super strength no flying or laser vision powers etc
@drunkenmaster8511
@drunkenmaster8511 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the armored daredevil and azrael batman
@siddhantaroi
@siddhantaroi 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, the whole point of changing Wolverine to a more inhuman form was actually meant to show character's more animal side and he fights back to get on with it. He gradually became more human after his training Elektra. Let's not get just get carried solely based on his animalistic look. The fill-in artist was a throwback issue IIRC.
@TheVileOne
@TheVileOne 5 жыл бұрын
Some misconceptions here. That Wolverine Beast-like mutation didn't happen because of Magneto. It happened because of Apocalypse III (Cable's son). Magneto ripped out Wolverine's adamantium skeleton but he remained fairly normal looking. It just gave him bone claws. However, the beastly mutation happened when Apocalypse 3 (Tyler) attempted to bond new adamantium his bones and brainwash him. Wolverine rejected the procedure and took on that more feral form, and he tore Tyler to shreds.
@cyrosphere0154
@cyrosphere0154 6 жыл бұрын
WHAT?! BATMAN AZRAEL IS AMAZING!!!
@mightybaloo1880
@mightybaloo1880 6 жыл бұрын
cillian smith love him so much you can't even spell his name right.
@cyrosphere0154
@cyrosphere0154 6 жыл бұрын
Mighty Baloo there, I fixed it! And yes, so much that it makes me dumb
@mightybaloo1880
@mightybaloo1880 6 жыл бұрын
cillian smith I doubt that's the pnly reason you're dumb.
@Therat921
@Therat921 6 жыл бұрын
Do you ever wonder.... why your here?
@cyrosphere0154
@cyrosphere0154 6 жыл бұрын
Mighty Baloo pnly? Who's dumb now?
@mikebart70
@mikebart70 4 жыл бұрын
I still like biker WW, Jean Paul Valey Batman and armored Daredevil.
@freggittlegamint2830
@freggittlegamint2830 4 жыл бұрын
You a fan of all those 90s BS Batman toys? Cus that's what Jean was.
@mikebart70
@mikebart70 4 жыл бұрын
@@freggittlegamint2830 I havent even seen one of those. Dont think they're commercialized where I lived back in those days.
@freggittlegamint2830
@freggittlegamint2830 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikebart70 Just look up 90s Batman toys. Almost all of them incorporate some kind of nonsense armor. Alot of them have exaggerated blades coming out of them just like Jean's moronic suit.
@doop8436
@doop8436 6 жыл бұрын
I blame WWE because same time this happened WWE Attitude Era happened so I think DC and Marvel was just trying show they can have attitude too
@SgtxAnus
@SgtxAnus 6 жыл бұрын
Their costumes were so 90s I think MTV just played an actual music video
@cheezeofages
@cheezeofages 2 жыл бұрын
14:48 That time when Scarlet Witch decided to cosplay Gambit but then saw some different boots she thought looked cool.
@benb3316
@benb3316 5 жыл бұрын
Extreme! Extreeemmeee! EXTREEEMMMMEEEE!!!!! Doooood! Well their current pandering to the SJW set is far, FAR worse....
@randyping6036
@randyping6036 3 жыл бұрын
90's comics reader 1: Have you seen Wolverine lately? He has no nose!! 90's comics reader 2: NO NOSE??!! How does he smell?????? 90's comics reader 1: Terrible.
@zetakai6731
@zetakai6731 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like getting your outfit wrecked for being nonsensical by a dude inexplicably rocking epaulets.
@kimsey0000
@kimsey0000 4 жыл бұрын
The Joker sure seemed to approve of Catwomans new costume in that cover!
@saiberunato
@saiberunato 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the best traditional superhero costume designers were George Perez, Dave Cockrum, Neal Adams, and Mike Grell.
@johnnyDizzyV
@johnnyDizzyV 2 жыл бұрын
i was a kid growin up in the 2000s and i was reading comics from the 90s that my dad gave me. I actually like all the 90s looks. Especially Superman with long hair and the black and white suit.
@danbell4273
@danbell4273 5 жыл бұрын
I remember one of the Hellspawn had this spikey leg thing that would shred his leg. The 90s was a bad decade for superheroes.
@shotgunfringe
@shotgunfringe 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong on Wolverines new look. While it did happen after the Fatal Attractions storyline, it wasn’t Magneto that was responsible for Wolverines new look. His look changed after Genesis (Cables son Tyler) tried to give him a new adamantium skeleton (the adamantium was harvested /stripped from Cyber’s body) Wolverine’s body rejected the adamantium bonding process and his body underwent a second mutation. After which Wolverine kills Genesis.
@RastaSaiyaman
@RastaSaiyaman 6 жыл бұрын
You should do a thing about continuity errors in big crossover super hero story lines which were done by multiple artists. Key example of that: Xtinction Agenda. Which was a crossover of X-men (Drawn by Jim Lee), X-factor (John Bogdanove) and New Mutants (Rob Liefeld.) Apparently there was no talk between the three artists on what happened in the story and most importantly how the characters looked. (Perhaps maybe strange to say this but) Kudos for Liefeld for being on the ball as he drew the characters with the same looks Lee gave them in his parts of the story. But Bogdanove went for something which totally screwed up the continuity. - In the chapters drawn by Liefeld and Lee, Wipeout is drawn as a short chubby character with short white hair and glasses. Bogdanove drew him with long hair and a mustache. - In the chapters drawn by Liefeld and Lee, Wolverine is wearing his brown and orange suit, Bogdanove drew him as "Patch" - In the chapters drawn by Liefeld and Lee, Wolfsbane is wearing her Genosha slave suit, Bogdanove drew her in rags, which didn't even remotely reselble what she wore in the other chapters. And there's plenty more of those errors throughout the story.
@pvthitch
@pvthitch 5 жыл бұрын
. 8:11. That "well whatever" expression is priceless.
@oldmanlogan9616
@oldmanlogan9616 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly think the "Fate" redesign looks pretty badass lmao
@kisubags437
@kisubags437 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I remember that Psylocke/Cyclops moment where he got all distracted while she was getting out of the water. I was like ten and kept going back to that part for some reason.
@bigvis497
@bigvis497 5 жыл бұрын
Was that Thor costume ever even explained? He started wearing just the tights with no top during the Warren Ellis run. Then he would just show up with this armored look mid story with no explanation. Mjolnir also had a chain on the end... for some reason. The look was designed by Mike Deodato but I dont think hes ever gone on record explaining what the deal was.
@MechaG
@MechaG 4 жыл бұрын
Why were there so many trenchcoats and bomber jackets in the 90s?
@randomrickreviewsrrr4662
@randomrickreviewsrrr4662 4 жыл бұрын
This cracks me up I collected in the 80s then in the mid 90s I saw some comics and was like wth EVERYONE just looks like CABLE it was so lame an lazy/messy looking. I didn't mind Sue's new FF4 outfit though !
@blackphoenix77
@blackphoenix77 5 жыл бұрын
7:18 Why did they draw women like that in the 1990s?? Her legs are waaay too long! Also, Diana didn't lose her powers when Artemis became Wonder Woman; she just lost the title to her.
@oliverortiz8507
@oliverortiz8507 2 жыл бұрын
This episode was great. It speaks of a time period that is important in many ways. It was the first time since I started collecting comic books that I had had enough and I stopped reading and collecting comic books. It was a sad and disappointing time for me. It also took the shine from the Image Comics people as well. Valiant Comics was a true treasure.
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