The Worst Part of Any Racing Game.

I love racing games, but there's parts I just cannot stand... but have to be completed. How do you feel? Can they be done better? #eapartner this is an issue in Forza Horizon 5, Need for Speed Unbound and many more racing games
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[@mileselectric3677]

the thing i always wanted was to be able to take body parts from different cars and mix and match them. i think the derelict system would be perfect for that. it just kinda feels like that would be perfect for nfs since its more of an arcade racer it doesnt have to be super realistic all the time plus making goofy looking cars just cause you can sounds fun

[@UltraGoki]

So like gta that would be sick

[@LilnormieX]

So Gow? Yes you can mix your equipment without affecting your stats

[@mileselectric3677]

@@LilnormieX not sure what that is but being able to take newer looking bodies wrapped around older bodies of cars for example. Or even taking the body of a Corvette and a Camero and mixing it together. Just the freedom of combining anything and making your own car sounds sick to me. Games get to have custom characters why not do custom cars

[@LilnormieX]

@@mileselectric3677 yea I agree I always wanted a c5 vette with camaro headlights

[@ballsackgameing]

Manufacturers wouldn't allow that 🤦‍♂️

[@DJGaming_1]

I can’t even play online anymore cause of som synchronization error💀

[@stephenpaules3543]

I'm surprised you haven't made a video about FH5's new expansion yet.

[@Senor_Him84]

When you stream again panthaa

[@existentialselkath1264]

For all forzas faults, it has the one collectable I don't mind at all. Fast travel boards. It just makes sense to make sure the player has fully explored the map before freely skipping past it.

[@sundaydriver2117]

i actually can agree with still dont want too many collectibles but I like the fast travel part

[@Manjustman_25806]

Honestly who ever came up with off-road drifting needs to be “ game ended” Edit: to clarify irl rally’s are really fun and as an amateur driver I highly recommend it I’m just saying that in game ie in inbound or in heat off-road drifting is so annoying

[@ZayySpazz]

It’s a real thing tho it’s realistic😹

[@TymaDem]

Off-road drifting aka rally cross?

[@ZayySpazz]

@@TymaDem yes

[@nikitakononov690]

Bruh thats the only way to drive fast off road irl tho. You can't grip off-road while driving fast its just not physically possible.

[@ZayySpazz]

@@nikitakononov690 exactly 😹

[@victor-octavianrusu9297]

Yoooooo, I'm the Skyline from the 13:50 races, really happy you put the race in the vid. And yeah, R34 has an insane start and is pretty damn good in A+, tho I still find myself losing to some cars (especially the F40)

[@keegangossett2896]

I don’t mind the collectibles the way NFS Unbound has done it. It gave me incentive to complete them all to unlock everything. It’s not like Payback where they were pointless or even Heat where you still had to buy the car afterwards.

[@Cobra_427]

To me, collectibles are great if done right, I feel like the photo locations and wrecks in TDU2 are a good example of it being done right, they encourage you to explore the entirety of the map, and the photo locations do the same while also showing off beautiful spots on the map, maybe the photo part is just me being a photography nerd, but I genuinely like cruising around looking for stuff like that

[@TheRealdraudE]

I love collectables, to enjoy them it's based on how you get them, collecting collectables is not as fun when you focus on exclusively getting them

[@tresuzuki7936]

For achievement purposes it becomes less fun for sure

[@LilnormieX]

Yea NFS heat did it the best by combining collecting collectibles and and exploring st the same time Also the game rewards you with great cars like the m4 gts or the fkkx and it gives you a reason to replay it unlike unbound which feels very grindy and frustrating

[@NicoKyunKyun]

i built a car specifically for collectable hunting, i made drift car, use the beetle for the speed traps, an offroad truck that jumps like a stadium struck for the ramps

[@Josh_Quillan]

I honestly really enjoy collectables that give me reasons to explore the map - my favourite part of every racing game is learning the world, and collectables can be a really good way to do this. I particularly love map features that you can use to find collectables, it becomes a map-reading detection game and I love maps. Very much enjoyed finding all the gas stations like this (not that there was any reward for that... ). I wish the locations you discover were more useful, though. A lot of collectable locations are really cool, atmospheric spots but they have no real purpose, and I feel like two of the most obvious location-based collectables that we've never seen are cooldown spots and pursuit breakers. Same for safehouses - these should be things you can simply go out and find. My main problem with them is making activities count as 'collectables' and then the idea of locking awesome cars behind them, and not even making the first attempt to link it into the game story. You found 100 ugly statues! Here, have a free Porsche! This makes NO sense. There need to be rewards, but it shouldn't be specific cars - vouchers good for any car, or discounts on any car (or ascending classes, perhaps - first one you get is B, then A, then A+...) would be better, or maybe minor parts like unique vinyls or wheels or something, or a ton of money, but the way it is now, entire cars like this gorgeous M1 are not going to be seen by many players because relatively few people will honestly be arsed to both find all the collectables and do all the activities. And dammit I don't like drifting! Don't make me build a genuinely good drift car and do every damn drift zone just to get a totally unrelated car. Totally agree about the derelict builds in Payback, that was one of the best features of that game and I really enjoyed gradually constructing the cars, it's a major incentive to progress. I remember wishing there was a game that was 100% derelicts. I also really liked the idea of the parts trucks in 2015. I'd like to see something a little like the scanner from Far Cry 2 be used, where a beep/flashing light increases in speed the closer you get, but there's no directional indication. I think it makes you read the map better. I like that seeing them puts them on the map, but I'd like marking the map to be a manual thing you actively have to do if you want to record a position.

[@sahil_tayade]

Collectables are optional. Some people really like them, myself included. helps appreciate the entire map and find cool things on a chill rainy day

[@jackdren9974]

Not really optional when they lock cars behind them. They are tedious and lazy game design.

[@sahil_tayade]

@@jackdren9974 there are so many non locked cars. You can't say it's mandatory if u haven't played with all of the already unlocked cars

[@ImmortanDan]

@@sahil_tayade That's such a dumbass argument. "Oh it doesn't count as mandatory because there are so many other cars to play with" well maybe I don't want the other cars. I don't want to grind out $1.5M to get some shitass Chiron, and I sure as hell don't want to tune a dumb old Volvo. I want an M1, and the game making me cheese all the numerous collectable objectives for it - especially seeing how they're not even marked on the map and depend on me driving aimlessly looking for them - is bullshit. Hell, the developers even confirmed it's bullshit by announcing that pay-to-win map pack.

[@sahil_tayade]

@@ImmortanDan that will make the m1 feel great once you get it. If you actually want the car then that's even better, I've done collectibles in nfs games and never used the rewards

[@ImmortanDan]

@@sahil_tayade I don't care if it'll "make it feel great once I get it". I care about the fact that getting all the collectibles extended my playtime of the game by around 8-12 hours, ZERO of which were legitimately enjoyable. If I was looking for filler I would've watched a 1990s anime.

[@maidoll_fei]

In Shutokou Battle the opponent racer are the collectables. I dont know why in NFS unbound there are no other street racer on the map. Maybe put them everywhere then we challenge them or do quest for them etc.

[@MattePurple1]

I don't mind doing the collectables. I do mind that the collectibles are only $250 ($2,500 in Heat). Also you can only do the activities one time, whereas in Heat you could re-run them for more money, which is DESPERATELY needed in Unbound.

[@R19Robbin]

I think a lot of people think the same about those annoying collectables 😂😂

[@aston1662]

i can tell youve been vocal about it you yelled at me at the start of the video

[@kingofpassionplusyt]

The Nissan z looks so beautiful for a very tiny car.

[@FiZzSTS]

I had them all collected within 2 weeks of the game coming out to say I had the bmw m1😂

[@TheB-Train]

Theo, you should definitely try the Mclaren 600LT. The handling physics on the car are very smooth and predictable. It might just be the full grip build I did, but most other cars I do with full grip still tend to slide. This car doesn't have as much understeer as you'd expect for a car like that. Lastly, it was overpowered in NFS Heat, and if you keep it in S class, it's also very effective in this game, as well

[@Lady_Aleera]

When I was a lass and gaming was a mystery that I wanted to explore my little heart out, I would collect everything I could find. As a adult (old lass) I just don't have the patience to collect stuff, it becomes a chore and extremely lamentable. I guess as we get older, we take the easiest way out of doing anything

[@BestInPlayz]

i lowkey love collectibles in some games

[@GhostIsAYandere]

No >:(

[@BestInPlayz]

@@GhostIsAYandere 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@LilnormieX]

Yea imo heat and payback did it the best

[@BestInPlayz]

@@LilnormieX unbound to tbh

[@SteveBrandon]

I love the BMW M1, quite possibly my all-time favourite BMW, but only the factory version or the Procar version, every custom version of the M1 in that game is a hideous eyesore. (If they let you put on the classic Spectraflame blue or green Hot Wheels Ultra Hots "Wind Splitter" livery on the M1, I would approve.)

[@Verystoic]

i would prefer if "collectibles" were like scavenger hunts but in the style of a Grand Tour Special that Jezza, james and hammond have done. Give me specific clues, a destination and conditions i must follow to make things interesting, and have it not be slapped on the map, but instead, random easter egg-like challenges i'll come across by chance while just casually exploring, and if i dont want to deal with it, just let me buy it for large amounts of money if you think its worth that much, because at the end of the day they're just collectibles and alot of the time, cosmetic ones, the game already lacks alot anyway.

[@shichibukaii]

I like collectibles because you do them while chilling but the downside for me is that game shows you all of them at once and once i see like 200 things looking at me, i don't wanna do them anymore. In fh4, you needed 50 boards for the free teleport so almost everyone did that because they are only 50 and you required them for a good reason. Idk maybe they can find a way to do collectibles without turning the game into grindfest but they need some change fr. If they show me area by area, i would collect all of them but thats just me. They should focus for the general audience, it should be fun for everyone too. Special liveries, maybe bodykits or irl referance stuff idk

[@ByLJT]

collectables add to the endgame, if there wasnt any in this game then singleplayer legit would not have anything to do, its fun a breaks up the drive from point a to point b repeatedly, drift zones shouldnt be a thing though, should just be events like Payback

[@buff_daddyclub9539]

You can actually unlock bmw legendary custom by just a glitch by holding left d pad and buying the body kit before it just click select and left on d pad at same time

[@tturi2]

they should be less quantity and they should require solving riddles and treasure maps etcetera, and missions to get new clues or a certain stat to be given the clue

[@TheMrJacob]

I feel your pain I hate collectables so much, especially in NFS Heat

[@vash_dakari]

Collecting collectables for the sake of collecting is one thing, some people enjoy hunting for eggs. It's another when it becomes mandatory for unlockable items. If anything, you should get an achievement, and that's it.

[@revoblam7975]

Just an opinion, the collectable are good tool to make players explore, they allow all vehicle types to do Something, the issue is ghostgames/criterion were bad at utilizing their map with them Forza and The Crew meld their maps with the collectable well Forza encourages you by being generous with their detection distances and giving you rough areas to look for, the crew makes them rare but a nice event to do for parts

[@maryannbusgith481]

Do the Subaru brz7 premium, build and customization

[@Krisund]

Man, i would love to see something like the derelicts from Payback

[@IamTheShadows]

I actually really like collectables. Ig im the only one 🤷‍♂️

[@el_chucky_6028]

I did a glitch to get it

[@ASchoolComputer]

At least with my testing the m1 is pretty good in every class And would gladly give someone a build for each class

[@udinthetomato]

As much as I like collectables, they are as fun as trying to get a frying pan from a top shelf only for it to fall on you and it is as tedious as putting my head in a blender. Been struggling to find some collectibles for some time now and there was one more to go and it has been like an hour to find the last flamingo in heat so yeah.

[@arturjukola2925]

I can say that, developers target also to play the game as much as possible, so aside of story they want to make some kind of activity, but here comes the issue. “How to make them fun?” Is it the idea issue or less time to develop the feature or maybe even both. Who knows maybe it’s the marketing specialist problem, because they are the ones that make risky dates, to show the project.

[@nathanricetalks]

I liked collectibles when they didn't get shoved into your face. Like in Midnight Club 3 for example where you could find those 12 Rockstar signs but you only knew once you found the first one and they also wouldn't show on the map.

[@Newmanfan4ever39]

im about 50/50 on them i do like collecting things in game but as long as i know where to find them and get the rewards otherwise it feels like a grind and this game is already too much of a grind

[@opshredderytp]

It was fine in TDU2, but here it's too much

[@mac5202]

I personally don't mind collectibles, but i hate when they're required to complete to unlock certain cars, or just items in general.

[@magicfok]

The worst part of any racing game is you can't remap the button of your wheel or even not support wheel.

[@JadeMythriil]

Collectibles in racing games do feel tacked on just to give you a purpose to explore the open world.

[@omz31]

Hey Pants, try launching from 2nd with nitrous to solve your problems off the line ☺️

[@LilnormieX]

He plays with auto gearbox btw

[@omz31]

@@LilnormieX ah, that’s going to be a problem

[@ReboyGTR]

*Grinding?*

[@BlackPanthaa]

Grind good, just not current Unbound online grind. But no not that 😂

[@ReboyGTR]

@@BlackPanthaa Grinding is there to make your game artificially longer. Call it what it is. Lazy.

[@Sleepyhollow3245]

Fr, leave it for adventure games

[@jimym__]

Beamng continues to be the king of all racing sims/ games

[@kak8895]

Even with all thg motion blur and camera shake in Unbound BeamNG still has more realistic sense of speed. Unbeaten

[@frogogogo]

Quick tip: action camera is your best friend, for road racing and drifting alike. 600LT is quite good for S class, very quick off the line and can be built to 100% grip. M1 is equally a beast for A+, but heavier and better for smooth drifts on narrow corners/quick exits. Both suffer at higher speeds.

[@el_chucky_6028]

600LT how good is it

[@LFXGaming]

I feel if they're is incentive besides "you cant 100% the game unless you collect 100 spray paint cans" or some shit, it would make them worthwhile. a car or a specific visual like a bodykit would reward you for persistence, make you feel satisfied and let other people see you;ve put in work.

[@JokerGaming-iv1tm]

Collectibles are annoying cuz of lots of things: 1.) They are not worth your time you can spend for example with ur gf or family. 2.) They cover pretty much 90% of the map and it evokes you to collect them all just to get them disappear. 3.) If you are already collecting them then the worst part is that they sometimes are not shown on the map depends what game is it. 4.) Collectibles are not fun its just grind for 100% completion which we really hate. 5.) The worst are in FH 5 in my opinion cuz some of em are sooo hard to reach. Conculsion: COLLECTIBLES ARE EVERY GAMERS BIGGEST NIGHTMARE! HOW CAN SOME COMPANIES THINK THAT THE PLAYERS WILL HAVE FUN COLLECTING THEM?! THEY NEVER LOOK FOR THE HATE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND NEVER LEARN THEIR LESSONS + IF THEY DONE SO THEY WOULD SAVE UP A BIT OF MONEY THAT THEY REALLY LOVE! Im speechless guys. What about you ???

[@chipchileos1725]

The Bad News- You are naturally born with a sinful nature and have broken at least one of the law (10 commandments) at least once in your life (Example: a lie) (James 2-10 says if you break one of these laws, its the same as breaking them all), so because of this you're on your way to hell already, everyone is (Romans 3-23) The Gospel (Good News): JESUS, Who is GOD in the flesh, came into the world and died for us, to free us from the curse of the law (10 commandments) and ressurected on the third day so that whosoever BELIEVES in HIM will not perish but have everlasting life! GOD said this! GOD cannot lie (Titus 1-2, Hebrews 6-18) we can lie because we are sinners. JESUS saved us already (Colossians 2 13-14) Just BELIEVE and TRUST in HIM! HIM ALONE, anyone who gives you another Gospel, whether an angel or one of us, let him be accursed, like it says in (Galatians 1 6-9) JESUS ALONE! Not religion, Trust in HIM and you will receive the GIFT of THE HOLY SPIRIT. GOD HIMSELF! JESUS said "Repent ye and BELIEVE the GOSPEL" (Mark 1-15). AMEN!!! 1111111111lllllllllllllllll11111111lllllllllll

[@NFSLYY]

fun fact at 7:03 A$AP Rocky's car use R32's RB26 in game 😅

[@Znm1011]

You should really try out the Mclaren F1.

[@moonfallen]

i loved the derelict cars

[@SubparLoki]

On collectibles, Tears Of the Kingdom just came out, and in that game you have 1000 korok seeds, which are given to you by little forest npcs all around the map. Some times you just gotta find em, and sometimes you have to do a little challenge. And after a certain point (~280 I think) they become useless. And I have a theory that Nintendo added them just to spite casual completionists like myself, who want to do the soft completion of beating the game, owning every armor set, owing a house, completing most to all side adventures and quests, and getting every collectible. Istg I hate massive completion goals.

[@kieranfitzgerald2030]

You enjoy racing and buying/customising cars, what is a better addition?......get unique rewards after completing mini challenges. You get to enjoy exploring the entire map and unlock cool free cars/cash rewards while you're hitting insane speeds and insane air👌👌

[@kingdj3551]

theo the flat 4 and v8 are the best engines they compete in s+ easily. only car that beats me is the stupid fucking regera that car needs to be in a class of its own completely overworked compared to ANYTHING else in the game but anywho don’t buy the v6 and PLEASE don’t make my car meta i love this thing for s+ and i hate using meta cars i actually feel different with this car

[@harkaranvirsingh2821]

And wish me luck for my exams

[@BlackPanthaa]

Wishing you the best

[@NJDJ1986]

meanwhile i still havent completed all the collectibles in NFS Heat. I completed in some areas like in Palm CIty Raceway, & Downtown Palm City. There are 2 speedzones left i still could not complete!

[@Machne-p7s]

Collection just like TRASH, if Criterion want to give us a motion to explore the map, most wanted 2012 and payback are the BEST example!😅

[@puffball973]

I only like collectibles if every single one is marked on the map from the start. They're collectibles, not run-around-the-map-randomly-for-days-ibles.

[@TyroneBurns]

GT7 doesn’t have collectables… it’s got some issues but that’s not it.

[@raptorjeezus2607]

Why is there off-road drifting? Easy. It works great in forza, which is an arcade racer too but built based on a simulation. It’s just nfs clinging on to this dated handling style that only ever worked in burnout

[@Underground3]

You know what racing game handle collectable correct? UG2 lmao. It like these modern games are all copying the Ubisoft open world design and not understand why it work their and not in their game.

[@dust133]

Have you tried not doing the collectibles? 😮😮😮

[@leedsunitedjukebox]

The only time I’ve come across worthy collectibles was on Burnout Paradise and GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas

[@Ser_Salty]

Like 20 or so unique feeling stunt jumps would be great and fun, but just putting several dozen samey feeling jumps is lazy, boring and repetitive.

[@bankait_rex1860]

Actually that is the least of my problems with this game, collectables it's fine a good killing time, what I am sick and tired of is the damn story modes just put me in races and enough with the cheese bro bro bro bro bro stories for goodness sake, NFS was never big into stories just cars and cops and race done!

[@NeoPotato98]

"Checklist gaming" sucks. It seems like most games nowadays are going for that Ubisoft formulaic open world design.

[@user-ir4rb9ms1b]

i will say this i will not play NFS unbound it is shit just looking at how the car drifted in this video almost made me puke on my keyboard i rather play forza horizon 2 cause even that game drives better and it has car tuning its also better i will say this the car sounds was real good in unbound but other then that i wont play it not even if the creators pay me $500.000

[@yitami2000]

God i wish those bodykits actually do help and change better the car in Handling because the old BMW m1 with that cool Bodykit you get for completing anything it deserves a lot more Handling if its on to take Corners a lot better. And this should be with othet parts and Kits too

[@sentinel8185]

I clicked on this video because I saw cool car in the title… 👀 If Code Masters, Assetto and Need for speed made a game… I would quiet Forza.

[@floridaboyshad7697]

I definitely would prefer derelicts CC over collectables and im pretty sure 95% of the nfs community would agree

[@paulgraham7443]

Its like afew collectibles in GTA Online with the 3 weapons that unlock in RDR2 after the challenges have been completed

[@Pursuit918]

Who cares about collectables if you can hop on and have a maxed out car for your class and everyone just DUSTS you immediately and the remainder of the race...

[@harmannfs8297]

IDK why but I just do not want to watch NFS content. Super disappointed man. You doin' great thou. Keep up.

[@OvAeons]

Kinda sucks you cannot get a bumper on the legendary body kit. I love the back end but the style is lost with the bumper delete. Bad decision...

[@Thatseriouskid8]

this game is a disapointment for me i finished the story and uninstalled it and im almost 100 percent in cyberpunk 2077 with more than 500k for the new dlc

[@saabkingentertainments.k.e]

I disagree I made some of the baddest wraps for my cars on heat with the paint tou had to collect and it was worth it people always asking me to help collect them to make wraps in my opinion I think it's pretty cool I can't speak for the other dumb stuff but it's cool the paint is the only ones I look forward to getting but I collect everything first that I can before I start the game game you get enough money to get through the game without worries about money

[@afzuru8283]

How are you not bored playing this game thio

[@ilove_hyper-cars0748]

I agree with you Theo I do also hate collectibles because they're really annoying and you can't really see things on the map because they're bloody covering it 😤💀

[@eugenesmith195]

How they make a game without Police in online but they bashed the other need for speed for having weak police online but then you just take them out of the new game WTF

[@LeeQuesada-CoTGaming]

Some collectibles are ok. But sometimes they're a little out of hand... Like all the flamingos in heat, grrrr.

[@lakalister]

The collectibles in this game are so easy. They give a nice break from the monotony of the racing and give you a better chance to explore the map. Hard disagree on this video from me

[@NekoSoophie]

The r34 in this is absolutely stupid, built it for A class and I have yet to lose a single race with it. Ridiculous.

[@brunogeyssens419]

I got one zone left but I cant finish it cuz somehow i got 3 out of 6 stars but I dont know how to get thé others Plz tell me whats criteriums to get the final 3 stars i need :'(

[@nomanssouls1957]

I still don't have the game yet! Repacks of unbound on pc aren't released😳😢

[@eugenesmith195]

It's funny that you make videos about need for speed but you never said that there are no POLICE in online

[@RMKDie-cast7475]

7:34 ÆÆÆ Got this feeling in my soul Go ahead and throw your stones Cause there's magic in my bones

[@evan7569]

I think we could use a NFS with higher stakes maybe racing for pinks

[@knucklehead5j]

I like collectibles 😐 but getting money for them is nice and payback proly had the best system

[@stevebutler8248]

Plz do video on the masda mx5 I think its on ov the best over all car in A and A+ maybe its got a build in S I will give that to u to find out 🎉

[@zubulaza2247]

Are you going to do the budget builds like nfs heat? I am running out of vids to watch lol 😂😂

[@big_boi5330]

They’re not that bad lol and you don’t have to do them, it’s entirely your choice, so if you get mad you’ve got nobody but yourself to blame

[@LegerAndCo]

how are you still playing this ? i got bored of it after a WEEK and went back to assetto/forza

[@devilsadvocate6939]

Closest thing I do to collectibles are barn finds in forza which i could do all day, traditional collectibles are a no from me chief

[@pla6ue]

The worst part of any racing game: It has the words "Need for Speed" in its tittle.

[@Hardhead456]

Cops targetting you and only you in need for speed games is my bane

[@liamthomas5061]

I too have been through this hell and I can say for sure it really wasn’t worth it

[@aaronmurrayvazquez]

just hoping Theo doesn't make a video about one of my secret killer cars i use