The real victim here is Yamper, once Eevee came along it got screwed over.
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
FR BRUH YAMPER GOT COOKED 😭
@scootermcpeanuts66994 ай бұрын
That still annoys me so much, we’ve already seen plenty of eevee in the anime, then it just comes along and overshadows yet another Pokémon when it didn’t need to be there.
@enigmatic28784 ай бұрын
Wampachi, our beloved...
@lava32564 ай бұрын
I'm still pissed about that tbh
@darkdragon72104 ай бұрын
@@scootermcpeanuts6699 Even Worse they Never gave it a New Evolution!!!
@Nova-gh5yr4 ай бұрын
A lil tired of pokegirls getting eevee too ngl
@SMCwasTaken4 ай бұрын
Same Just give Ash an Eevee, Pikamid needs to retire
@SMCwasTaken4 ай бұрын
I wonder what Eeveelution Ash would've evolved his Eevee into
@debasritachowdhury52974 ай бұрын
@@SMCwasTaken I would like Ash to have an Espeon or an Umbreon...these two suit him the best
@Nova-gh5yr4 ай бұрын
@SMCwasTaken nah I'm just tired of eevee in general
@SMCwasTaken4 ай бұрын
@@debasritachowdhury5297 Espeon or Leafeon would fit the Best Only Minor characters have those and no Poke girl has ever gotten them Any Eeveelution would work, as long as they retire that stupid ahh electric rat infected with the electric black plague
@caribou35524 ай бұрын
Chloe suffered from too little development While Goh suffered from too much
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
REAL
@dudesayshi21914 ай бұрын
Watch electro Pikachu's what if I wrote Pokemon journeys it's sooo goood
@RequiemUltima224 ай бұрын
@@Pokiiii62too much development that we never finish his story bc of ash finally being champion
@darkdragon72104 ай бұрын
Damn.
@LITTLE19944 ай бұрын
@@caribou3552 definitely
@mattiasolsson15234 ай бұрын
Chloe is an example how one character was only seen in the background and forgot to give her character developing, which was a mistake. But her design looks adorable so that’s one positive.
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Very true bro
@Muta1234 ай бұрын
Also this may be a unique argument but she seems really privileged as she is the daughter of a Professor, goes to private school yet she squanders all those opportunities to meander not really committing to anything
@enigmatic28784 ай бұрын
@@Muta123and yet commits to the ONE THING she DIDN'T LIKE people assuming her about!
@Takeawayjustin4 ай бұрын
Yeah i had a crush on her for a while
@aliastheabnormal4 ай бұрын
Looks better with her hair down honestly.
@isaachiltyhilty68044 ай бұрын
If Chloe never got Eevee the writers probably would've forgotten her
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Bro real 😭
@JuanGomez-ke5py4 ай бұрын
Why didn't they give her why didn't they give her a Togepi
@JuanGomez-ke5py4 ай бұрын
@stephvondames6369 why baby egg baby egg is way more remarkable way better markable
@RequiemUltima224 ай бұрын
💀
@candybunny24624 ай бұрын
Ironically enough, I think Chloe getting an eevee made her more forgettable.
@Shadow-Joop-1574 ай бұрын
She didn't even become a Coordinator at the end instead she became an assistant for her father now that Goh and Ash are quitting. The whole point of her arc is that she doesn't want to follow in her father's footsteps and finds something she wants to achieve herself but the pokemon anime team just forgot that
@youtubestudiosucks9784 ай бұрын
They didnt forget about it, pokemon is still japanese and they dont care about women apart from their looks. Maybe lookup how the culture is for the things you watch before you get dissapointed that another anime is just following their culture
@aniahliepard4 ай бұрын
@@youtubestudiosucks978 I think they're allowed to be disappointed when their whole character arc was just thrown in a dumpster in the end
@youtubestudiosucks9784 ай бұрын
@@aniahliepard again, it's their culture so they have different morals and standards. Do you often go to different countries to complain that the people there act like the people there too?
@aniahliepard4 ай бұрын
@@youtubestudiosucks978 I'm sure there are sadly plenty of people who will complain about such a thing but that is not the point here This is a character, a FICTIONAL character, falling in line with what she was trying to avoid in the first place and ultimately having her goals forgotten, when she could've had a full character development instead Like this is literally a fictional world I genuinely don't think it is that deep here...
@Apolemia4 ай бұрын
@youtubestudiosucks978 True but wrong here. Serena is a boy? Nope. A girl. And still good development even tho she s very "girly and trad", she still has a correct development which shows they could have done the same AGAIN with that one Evee girl. They did it once and they could have done it twice, even while their misogynist culture dont stop them
@morphstarchangeling80244 ай бұрын
You're telling me they introduced an Eevee that couldn't evolve. THEN NEVER TOLD US WHY IT CAN'T EVOLVE NOR MADE IT EVOLVE!? What!?
@babyseal88224 ай бұрын
Its simple That eevee is from let's go
@LITTLE19944 ай бұрын
@@babyseal8822Maybe or maybe not
@FabBrigade4 ай бұрын
@@babyseal8822 Either that or it can Gigantamax.
@MsMoranguinho924 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure in one episode they explained that it couldn't evolve since Eevee's DNA was a bit more unstable than a regular Eevee.
@babyseal88223 ай бұрын
@@FabBrigade yess, and you need let's Go game to get these gigantamax Also gigantamax pokemon who can evolve cannot evolve (pikachu, Meowth, eevee and recently duralodon that you cannot transfer to SV if it can gigantamax)
@Mr1100744 ай бұрын
I really hated her getting an Eevee because she was the 4th Pokegirl getting an Eevee and I didn’t like Eevee being portrayed as a Pokémon for girls. Plus Eevee was getting so much overexposure while not giving us another Eevolution. I would given Ash an Eevee who would look up to Pikachu and then evolve into Jolteon, finally giving Ash his 2nd electric type Pokémon after 26 years.
@SMCwasTaken4 ай бұрын
I relate to this so much Eevee is supposed to be for both genders but they marketed towards girls, and for that stupid reason they genderlocked Eevee in PMD eos Espeon or Leafeon are the best candidates for Ash imo, they had almost zero screen time in the anime and only some cameos
@darkdragon72104 ай бұрын
I actually didn't mind that, the problem became more it didn't evolve into a new Eevelution!!! 👿👿👿👿
@youtubestudiosucks9784 ай бұрын
Or give Brock and Eevee and somehow it accidently evolves into a leafeon, that way he has a pokemon to fight against water types and nobody would expect a rock type gymleader to send-out a grass type pokemon
@darkdragon72104 ай бұрын
@@youtubestudiosucks978 Can a Gym Leader do that?
@youtubestudiosucks9784 ай бұрын
@@darkdragon7210 it's a newer generation, as long as the mayority of their pokemon is the type their gym is famous for then why shouldnt they be allowed to have a random pokemon of a different type to catch players who expected a certain type pokemon off-guard? Battling Roxanne would be more interesting if instead of a Nosepad she sends out a Medichamp or a Koffing
@amberknight73014 ай бұрын
Honestly, Chloe was the perfect opportunity to explore a completely new idea for a Pokegirl. Have Chloe be the one challenging Galar's Gyms. She has the most 'Pikachu' partner in Eevee (which could have been a G-Max Eevee). Her inspiration could have been Ash, who is at his peak in this season and she could explore what she wants to do in life from the Galar Gym Leaders. It would also let all the Galar Gym Leaders appear in Journeys.
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
BRO THATS ACTUALLY SO SMART
@brickbanditstudios60374 ай бұрын
It baffles me that the fans (like you) can come up with something better than the writer(s) themselves. 💀
@seineevee4 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD YES
@lennondegoede4 ай бұрын
This would’ve been amazing as a short spinoff
@saitohajime99394 ай бұрын
Bro your brain! It’s massive
@liamtherobot96564 ай бұрын
alternative title: the most wasted potential in a pokegirl ever.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Wrong obviously
@mattiasolsson15233 ай бұрын
The most wasted of them all.
@OrangeToadGamer4 ай бұрын
Chloe had *SO* much potential at the beginning of Journey's, but once she got Eevee it felt like any form of interesting character growth went out the window since she basically just became the *"Eeveelutions"* character, if the writers didn’t want her to be in a trio with Ash & Goh, they should of just made her stay a minor character or just not include her at all.
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@OrangeToadGamer It's so bad bro. Like ten ten from Naurto even got more attention than Chloe. You're right, Chloe had so much potential but once she was introduced in the anime, it's like the writers just didn't know what to do with her. She was basically just a background character for the entire series
@mattiasolsson15234 ай бұрын
Even her Eevee got more attention and was more intresting.
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@mattiasolsson1523 Facts bro like that's so embarrassing
@mattiasolsson15234 ай бұрын
@@Kings0424 If Goh had Eevee and with the other Eevee evolution would be more intresting, no Chloe need it.
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@mattiasolsson1523 Facts bro
@SMCwasTaken4 ай бұрын
Ash should've gotten an Eevee I'll never forgive the writers for teasing us with those eevee shorts in USUM
@CC-cm3jl4 ай бұрын
@@parvkaurav7973I think USUM was great, much better than Journeys.
@legendarycryptid26294 ай бұрын
@@parvkaurav7973That anime was great. People beat on it for artstyle, but it had plenty of great moments in it.
@arrashidikharo34044 ай бұрын
R.I.P to Rachel Lillis the voice actor who played Misty and Jessie from Pokemon she will be miss.
@lordcooler17034 ай бұрын
Considering how Eevee can't evolve if it has the Gigantamax factor... Maybe they could have had Chloe discover that her Eevee could Gigantamax. I dunno.
@delphoxhoopa72894 ай бұрын
It's baffling how they had SO MANY options to evolve Eevee and didn't pick ANY of them. Even Gigantimax would've done something to develop it, or at least justify why it couldn't evolve. But no. They just completely ignored it and Chloe, making them both a waste of time and ended the legacy of the Pokegirls in the worst way possible. Thank God for Liko.
@adamk-paxlogan7330Sucks4 ай бұрын
I know right? why do a whole story arc for chloe's eevee if your not going to give the reason at all? that made me really disappointed
@RequiemUltima224 ай бұрын
Now liko gonna take over and become the strongest one lol
@Blossomthegreatandamazing3 ай бұрын
Yess W Liko
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
LMAO y'all are so moronic, absolutely 0 media literacy
@Bigblade2973 ай бұрын
@@Blossomthegreatandamazing Liko's out there making a huge name for herself, and all of us are very proud of her (ESPECIALLY recent episode (Horizons Episode66)
@lohigrov4 ай бұрын
She needed more love from the anime writers...
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@lohigrov I agree because the writers really gave up on Chloe
@Grim0XVr4 ай бұрын
We honestly only needed Ash as an mc. Having 3 characters in the spotlight really ruined Ash’s final series.
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Grim0XVr That's so true
@matthewkuscienko46164 ай бұрын
The worst part is that they had the opportunity to do more with her character: the filler episodes could've been used to create more chances to flesh her out, or at the very least give her more things to do, with or without Ash and Goh, so that she could've at least had more of a chance to shine. It's too bad, too, because she was very underutilized in the series, and Goh's character arc didn't really achieve much of anything particularly meaningful, especially for a character that was meant to be a secondary protagonist. It's because of this that I feel that Goh was arguably handled worse than Chloe: as one of two protagonists, people were at least somewhat invested in seeing Goh succeed on some level, which is why I think was partly why he became as disliked as he was. Chloe, on the other hand, didn't have the same kind of expectations because her presence wasn't felt to nearly the same degree as with Ash and Goh, leaving her feel like she was just kinda-sorta there; but despite that, I actually do think that the way she concluded her character arc was surprisingly satisfactory. What I'm getting at is that she was given her Eevee to try to figure out why it couldn't evolve, and while that was never revealed, it does lean into her eventually deciding to become a Pokemon researcher, which, in turn, may explain her initial dislike of Pokemon: I think that the reason for her not liking Pokemon is partly because she resents her father for putting more time into his research than paying attention to her, causing her to crave love and affection from the parent she feels she's not getting it from. This, in turn, leads to her taking up Pokemon research as a way to better connect with her father; I know this is more of a fan theory than anything, but I do think it provides some much-needed context as to why Chloe is the way she is for most of the series
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
She didn't. She needed more intelligence from the fandom
@Ben-td3wi4 ай бұрын
The fact that we saw her get to know every Eeveelution and wondered what she would evolve Eevee into at the end of the series only for her to keep it as an Eevee in the end felt like a knife to the heart. I get that it might be realistic but it still makes it feel like everything she went through was a waste of time. What a completely pointless character.
@shannongrummisch88814 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity to not have Chloe’s eevee be a gigantamax eevee. After all, her whole gimmick was that she was unable to evolve so it would have been a cool concept to have it be revealed that the reason she couldn’t evolve was because she was a G max eevee.
@tvcya20974 ай бұрын
I feel like if Galar have new eevee evolution. Chloe would have been a more interesting person
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
FRRRR GREAT POINT ACTUALLY!
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@tvcya2097 Not only that but give her more screen time, give her a goal to achieve, make her travel with Ash and Goh throughout the series like if they would had did that then Chloe would've easily been in conversation as one of the best Pokegirls ever
@tvcya20974 ай бұрын
How to fix Chloe: 1: More screen time/give her own episode for development 2: More interesting character/not a filler character 3: Have a goal to evolve her eevee to the right path (I will be honest I don’t care which eevee evolution just make it happen pls :( )
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@tvcya2097 Facts bro
@justaplayer86294 ай бұрын
Sword and shield wouldve been a perfect time for a steel type eevee but they missed the opportunity
@ArtisticPandemonium4 ай бұрын
all she needed was screen time to make her character feel more fleshed out
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Fr bruh
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
No
@雪者4 ай бұрын
I wish Chloe was handled better by the writers. 😭
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@雪者 I agree
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Same bruh 😭
@witheredjr28874 ай бұрын
Yeah 😢
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Nothing better than perfect.
@Kings04243 ай бұрын
@@natalimoina No it's not. Chloe was terrible and poorly written
@lasercraft324 ай бұрын
It legitimately feels like they just wanted Goh to be one of the main characters, but HAD to have a female character out of obligation, so they made Chloe more of a side character.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
She isn't a main character, smart guy
@Morbidly_obese_crocodile3 ай бұрын
@natalimoina that's what they said. Stupid😊
@Roman-Noodlez4 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t consider her a pokegirl;she got like 3 episodes of screen times a season and that’s it
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Roman-Noodlez 100% true
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
You could say that but she had an entire arc dedicated to her so I wouldn't say she wasn't
@mattiasolsson15234 ай бұрын
Chloe was just a way to introduce every Eevee’s evolution in Journeys.
@sonbaba87264 ай бұрын
@@mattiasolsson1523but eevee is not a new Pokémon we knew it from gen 1 these arc was unnecessary it was not interesting too
@alexbryda4 ай бұрын
wait what? I'm watching journeys now before they take it off Netflix, im all the way up to ultimate and during masters journeys she was in like almost every single episode? Everytime Goh and Ash were about to go out the professor or Chloe herself would pop up and say she should go, i started to think of her as the third of the group because of how often she'd adventure with Goh and Ash, up until she started to consider Eevees evolution possibilities she was in only a couple episodes but after that is constant i feel 🤔
@Mr1100744 ай бұрын
Like the Journeys series, Chloe as a character was a mess since the very beginning. You can tell the writers never knew what to do with her. It felt like for Chloe and the Journeys series, there was a bunch of ideas given but there wasn’t a clear path chosen so it was like the writers made it up as they went along. I can’t even say that she had potential because potential for what?
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
No reading comprehension like the rest huh?
@eljordinio764724 күн бұрын
@@natalimoinano clue about bad writing huh? You're the one with no comprehension scum
@ruehall54892 ай бұрын
Did anyone else think they intended for her Eevee to evolve into Leafeon? Like, think with me. Only time in the series that she took interest in doing something for herself (that wasnt something copied from a past pokegirl 😶) was an episode about looking after the gardens at her school. Also, when you look at the girl she met who looked just like her but with umbreon and espeon, that girl’s hair in the highlight had like the symbol from umbreon’s head. Chloe has a flower. Thats giving plants to me, so a grass type leafeon to help her out looking after the plants at school, and to parallel that girl in her class with the glaceon, it fits well
@DaARK_Chocolategang4 ай бұрын
She had potential 🙏😭 But the anime forgot about. ALSO THAT FACT THAT SHE GOT TO SEE ASH COMPETE IN THE MASTERS 8 AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE IS A CRIME!!!!
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Stop the nonsense
@BigBrotherMateyka3 ай бұрын
I think what immediately turned me off about Chloe is when she first noticed Ash injured from an electric attack, and she just shuffled on by annoyedly without even batting an eye. Heartless.
@PetraExlesiaT3 ай бұрын
Fun fact:Chloe japanese dub was voiced by kana hanazawa. Like how they got a top tier seiyu for such a minor character like this😭
@Pokiiii623 ай бұрын
Her eng dub is also amazing 😭 Cherami Leigh is phenomenal
@al-sir4 ай бұрын
Chloe had potential close to Dawn and May. Ended up down the drain in last place next to Iris as Pokegirl in the series.
@incrediblefunk72204 ай бұрын
Iris is Unova Champion in Chloe's series. Your words are invalid.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Embarassed yourself twice over
@NotGabriel-s4b4 ай бұрын
Even ten ten from Naruto got more screen time than her
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Fr 😭
@NotGabriel-s4b4 ай бұрын
Thx for the highlight
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@NotGabriel-s4b OMG for real. I forgot about ten ten in Naurto
@mattiasolsson15234 ай бұрын
For real, Chloe has also the least screen time then Ash’s other companion. But some some even call her the best girl or even better than Serena despite very short screen time and poorly developt.
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@mattiasolsson1523 Those people who says that Chloe is better than Serena is delusional
@babyseal88224 ай бұрын
Remember when we Thought that eevee will became a new eeveelution? Only for us to realize that its lets go eevee
@hailthequeenFM3 ай бұрын
The concept of a trainer who was afraid of Pokémon, got over that fear, and flip floping to different paths as a Pokémon trainer trying to find to their gotcha(sorry, been finish up Kamen Rider Gotchard) and what they might want to do is so good on paper. #cloewasdonedirty
@DittoMewmew24 күн бұрын
Honestly I was expecting Chloe's eevee to evolve into some new eeveelution, especially since we haven't gotten one in the games for a while.
@TrainerAQ4 ай бұрын
She was the one with the eevee too, but May, Serena, and the Water girl from Sun and Moon did a better job with it.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
🤡
@mattiasolsson15233 ай бұрын
Yes
@eljordinio764724 күн бұрын
May and Serena, yes. Lana's Eevee was almost equally as useless
@themisfitbrigade3 ай бұрын
Yamper just being a straight up Corgi is hilarious
@Pokiiii623 ай бұрын
He's a cutie pie
@jenniferdaniels7014 ай бұрын
Chloe's dislike was more like May and Serena, not Lillie's phobia. Chloe, May, and Serena were more uninterested in pokemon, not truly afraid. She's as much a pokegirl as Delia, Caroline, Johanna, Meyer, Grace, etc. Yeah, the parents. Eevee arc- even learning that it could gigantamax would have been a good ending, too, imo. Studying more examples of each eeveelution would have been interesting, too.
@vixntrickzz3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't really say that Serena was uninterested about pokemon, I'd say she just preferred performing rather than battles and the gym challenge and such. She didn't really dislike battles either.
@jenniferdaniels7013 ай бұрын
@@vixntrickzz At first, she wasn't even interested in that. She didn't really seem to be into anything at first. She was just a girl at home with no goals in life. Then she saw an old friend from summer camp (who didn't recognize her at first), and decided to see him again, and the only way to get out of town was to become a trainer. Shauna introduced her to performing. If she had been more interested in pokemon, she would have been training before Ash returned to her life. Mallow wasn't really into battling, but she had the goal of making her family's restaurant the best it can be. Sophocles isn't as interested in being the top trainer, either, imo, but he has his scientific research and goal of being an astronaut. Serena wasn't even trying to become a top baker, even though she's good at it.
@vixntrickzz3 ай бұрын
@@jenniferdaniels701 well not really. I think she didn't take the first step before, because her mother wanted her to be a rhyhorn racer. Just seeing ash save the garchomp in lumiose (I think that's when she saw him?) gave her a bit of confidence to be like "I'm setting off!". She was very unhappy about her mom wanting her to be a rhyhorn racer, so even without ash she might've set off anyways. Besides it's not like she disliked battles. She just didn't know what to do after getting Fennekin, and it just so happened, that when she realized, she just wanted to be a performer. Personally, while I really like Serena as a character and I like her contest arc (minus the crush on ash b plot, it's uhh...) I think she should have been a battle focused trainer as well, cause at the time she was the 3rd pokegal doing contests. As for the argument later - just because she likes baking, it doesn't mean she has to become a top baker or something. It's just a little side hobby she likes, just like clemont preparing food for everyone. (Yet he doesn't want to be a chef, of course. Because his main thing is inventing and being the lumiose gym leader.)
@jenniferdaniels7013 ай бұрын
@@vixntrickzz Grace pushed her into ryhorn racing because Serena needed to do something, not just sit around. The goal didn't have to be pokemon related, just a goal she's working toward. Baking, designing clothes like Valerie outside the gym, business, science, contests, training, I don't care. I just don't see Serena as having any kind of goal until Shauna tells her about performing and shows her what it's like.
@LITTLE19944 ай бұрын
I do find it cool for Chloe to have an Eevee, but the way she had it so easily, not evolving it, AND have no character development really screwed her up.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Objectively wrong, typical
@lasercraft324 ай бұрын
I love Eevee, its one of my favorites... But seriously why do all the female characters get Eevees? There are so many adorable Pokemon out there, give them a chance. :
@FabBrigade4 ай бұрын
Example: Lana could've had a Spheal
@smackjack784 ай бұрын
I really want to like Chloe. Her situation of not knowing what to do for a living is VERY relatable, but the writers give her so little to do that by the time her arc concludes, it didn’t feel like she did anything to become a researcher, y’know, the thing she absolutely didn’t want to do. She was super fragmented from the rest of the series even though they plant her and Goh having a past at the very start, which really hurt her in the long run
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@smackjack78 For real like the writers gave up on Chloe
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Very relatable indeed, writers fumbled so hard
@mattiasolsson15234 ай бұрын
Chloe didn’t developt her character so much, sure she decided to be a Pokémon researcher just like her dad at the last episode but that dosen’t work at all.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Objectively wrong, no surprise
@eljordinio764724 күн бұрын
@@natalimoinayou're the only one who's objectively wrong. If scum like you cannot see bad writing or in this case, failed experiments when they're blatantly obvious, then you have no common sense whatsoever
@dodinhphu45474 ай бұрын
I can defend Goh all day but Chloe is just inexcusable
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
LOL TRUE!
@SparkingSparks4 ай бұрын
Meh, I think Chloe is actually an interesting character, but the writers just didn't seem to want to include her. Goh just doesn't work for what Journeys was doing with the duo protag thing imo. Honestly if Chloe was a part of the group in journeys I think it would have made for a much less bland dynamic than just Ash and Goh.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Only if you don't understand anything
@SpectrumAkroma4 ай бұрын
4:47 this was literally a copy paste from the Dawn look alike back in the Diamond and Pearl series, the one that Give Dawn her Togekiss after winning a contest.
@McKnighty2 ай бұрын
I hate this character so much because she wastes so much of Journeys that already had too much filler. She’s so boring too, constantly getting outshined by guest characters in her solo episodes, and her basic “journey” is so bare bones and takes too long. You can tell they gave her an Eevee cause they needed to do SOMETHING exciting with her.
@mrboerger16204 ай бұрын
Ok 0:20 no your lying. Dawn and May weren't bossy girls like misty. Dawn legitimately had her own development and was more like female ash that got better overtime. If you really wanna be that guy serena's whole arc started fifty episodes into the series
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Yes, they were? They're are entire 10 minute compilations of sassy dawn and may if you want to see for yourself. Even in the beginning of advanced, that was may's nature 😭
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Pokiiii62 Facts bro
@lynnboartsdye19434 ай бұрын
I like the idea that she’s trying different things because she wants to find her way and how in theory the eevee arch ties into that. It feels like wasted potential for Pokémon to introduce a new eeveelution, or have eevee evolve into a sylveon that’s a regional variant.
@Rex10K4 ай бұрын
They did the whole eevee doesn't know what it wants ark better in the first season of Kanto in ONE episode.
@cometcartoons85284 ай бұрын
The sad part about Chloe is that I actually found her story to be more interesting than Goh. Because of how much pressure she faced about her peers thinking that she'll be a Pokemon professor like her dad, she becomes repellent of Pokemon and people who are crazy about Pokemon like Goh and especially Ash. Like during their first meeting after Yamper shocked him, she doesn't even bother checking to see if he's ok, just ignores him and moves on. While I'm glad she's become less repellent about Ash and Pokemon and even managed to get her own pokemon, but as time went on and they fail to give her more pokemon and she only is motivated to find more eeveelutions, she feels less like a character and more of a plot device to show off all the eevee evolutions. And even her own focused episodes it feels like the side characters get more focus than her, especially during her climax with her own dad. And the worst part, at the end of it she becomes the new research fellow after Goh and Ash leaves and tries to follow her dad's footsteps. THE VERY THING SHE DIDN'T WANT TO DO!
@dawn94224 ай бұрын
thank you for making this video, you've probably seen my comments before and that I think she's an amazing character just written and handled poorly. She had so much potential for being a great character and they decided to not work with her unless they needed to to basically get a filler episode in. I wish they would have done more with her but I can only wish. At least I can read stories/fanfics of her actually getting good character development. Great video can't wait to see the next, also I love your art of all the characters on your thumbnails, the Chloe one is so cute
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, you can thank my thumbnail artist lufenas for that! I heavily agree though, she had so much potential
@shadowprism76514 ай бұрын
Wow, I know another character who goes by the name Chloe and absolutely everyone hated her fairly odd parents.
@tina_theyt5332 ай бұрын
To be honest the reason why I don't like her that much Is not because of these things, it's because she always downplays, or how she reacted everything Ash and Goh did. It was annoying for me to see her in an episode.
@cappella2644 ай бұрын
I like Chloe but her getting Eevee was boring, I liked her story of not liking Pokémon and then starting to like them, Her not wanting to be labeled as a trainer/professor just cause her dad is was an interesting idea but as SOON as she got Eevee it was instantly boring, The whole seeing other eevelution trainers got boring and they just recycled other character ideas, RIP Yamper, as soon as Chloe caught Eevee and forgot Yamper it was over
@laraprisma63814 ай бұрын
In fact, in the episode before the Master 8 finale there is a recap of her storyline and she said she wants to be a professor like her a father, at least that's what I heard in reviews.
@logancross95574 ай бұрын
not only is she the worst pokegirl she also have a story that builds up to noting take the eevee stuff out and it the same
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Wow does anyone in the comments have any media literacy, even just a small small amount? Or nah?
@Browncoat79694 ай бұрын
[Insert the spongebob running around while everything is on fire meme] I guess that how they felt whilst making her character arc in pokémon journey.
@QueerHungrynerd3 ай бұрын
We threw out her name!
@illusorie3 ай бұрын
I honestly love her design i just wish she had better character writing
@otaviopalanca3 ай бұрын
Even Ash's arc didn't go anywhere. Such terrible finale for Pokémon.
@drakul34674 ай бұрын
Iris: I'm not the worst anymore?
@MelokuhleMthombeni-u7d4 ай бұрын
May: Nahh that goes to me
@Mr.Brothybear4 ай бұрын
People hated Iris?
@incrediblefunk72204 ай бұрын
@@Mr.Brothybear UNFORTUNATELY. :(
@incrediblefunk72204 ай бұрын
Never were.
@Mr.Brothybear3 ай бұрын
@@incrediblefunk7220 She's One of the Few characters to actually Call Ash out on his BS
@afro0254 ай бұрын
peak pokeeee video 🙏 thank you for saying what needed to be said
@tokay0554 ай бұрын
So true bestie! 😭
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Thank you friend!!
@zerarori3 ай бұрын
what have i done to deserve this slander
@ItsVirkiri2 ай бұрын
OH SH-
@tina_theyt5332 ай бұрын
@@ItsVirkiri Lol
@blakemclelland64814 ай бұрын
i honestly forgot chloe even existed in the pokemon anime
@AlexxxMYLSince201326 күн бұрын
I was expecting a new Eeveelution at the end of the Eevee arc tbh, big dissapointment
@Muta1234 ай бұрын
I mean I am not surprised given Journeys maybe the worst series and Goh boils my blood with how easy pokemon is to him
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Muta123 For real bro like Goh has to be the biggest wannabe in Pokémon history
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Goh is so mid bruh
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Pokiiii62 Like Goh be catching Pokémon left and right without battling it at all like that's not how someone is supposed to catch Pokémon
@Austruches4 ай бұрын
Goh just annoy me. He is so mid
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Austruches For real
@IsleofPigsStudios4 ай бұрын
Honestly. Journeys is basically the BWBA of Pokémon. Both Big World Big Adventures and Journeys tried to have the main character (Thomas the Tank Engine for BWBA, and Ash and Goh for Journeys) traveling the world. And both are underwhelming and pretty bad. Journeys did nothing with the new content and basically clung onto nostalgia, Kanto and Filler for most of its run. BWBA did the opposite, ditching the roots of the show (Edward and Henry being kicked from the main cast, Realism being a mess.) in favor of newer flashier things. Thing is I actually can tolerate BWBA. Journeys on the other hand frustrates me with how it’s the GEN 8 ANIME AND IT DID BASICALLY NOTHING WITH GEN 8. We got the bare minimum for Gen 8 in the Gen 8 anime, with an arc for Sword and Shield, a special for BDSP, and a special for Legends Arceus, as well as the Galar Starters. But most of the Galar stuff was ignored, heck we don’t even have the Galar Starters together at the same time outside of “the world of Pokémon” Segments, something that has never happened before or since in the anime. Journeys just makes me angry.
@IsleofPigsStudios4 ай бұрын
^ when I say we don’t have the Galar Starters together at the same time, I mean in base form
@pikachuthebananasplit90614 ай бұрын
I know and then all these new episodes try and give Nia and Rebecca as much screentime as possible while Edward and Henry just fade away in the background! It's very clear some of the episode plots feel very rushed since season 21 only had 18 episodes instead of the usual 26. It's obvious they wanted to get season 21 out of the way so they could roll BWBA into the market!
@havingfunwithelijah2144 ай бұрын
V@@IsleofPigsStudios Leon's battle had them all in one place just not out at the same time due to being well a battle.
@IsleofPigsStudios4 ай бұрын
@@havingfunwithelijah214 In that case it’s the final forms. What I was trying to refer to is the base forms.
@IsleofPigsStudios4 ай бұрын
@@pikachuthebananasplit9061 Considering AEG, it’s ironic in Rebecca’s case since Rebecca isn’t in AEG at all
@aureliamastergoomba12784 ай бұрын
2:31 Yeah, honestly, I would've just bitten the bullet and let her join. Would've helped to get rid of a LOT of unneeded filler. To give an example on how it could've been avoided: I've made small progress on a document of a Pokemon Journeys rewrite, might take some points from your video to help with that so thanks in advance. In it, Chloe ends up joining Ash around the time Ash battles with Korrina in Journeys. She doesn't even need to be around all the time, just slightly often! I also took the liberty in it so far, to put the episode where Chloe catches Eevee, before Ash even catches Dragonite (altering things drastically to fit the story). It her mostly has her join early on to give her more flexibility with screen time, and avoid unnecessary filler, and also change some things to make her unique, like maybe a mental disability!
@aureliamastergoomba12784 ай бұрын
5:38 I got the lazy answer: G-Max Eevee :3
@stevenpip73392 ай бұрын
Gigantamax Eevee. That's the solution.
@seineevee4 ай бұрын
The thing that frustrates me is that Chloe could’ve been soooo good. If she was a more frequent companion to Ash and Goh and more clearly shown to have a fear of change, it could’ve made her story with Eevee not evolving an interesting allegory for not wanting to grow up and being unsure or afraid to commit to a certain path in life. Maybe she’s even hesitant to catch Eevee because she’s so used to being around Yamper. She could’ve paralleled Goh and his drive to go into the world and achieve impossible goals with her almost pessimistic realism, and act as a “straight man” comedically to Ash’s brighter side and Goh’s shenanigans. And that’s not even mentioning how they could’ve rewritten Goh and her dynamic, or given a deeper dynamic to her and Ash, since they barely interact. If it weren’t for her being in the Journeys intro, you’d think she was a side character as important as the rest of her family, not a secondary protagonist! GOH IS MORE OF A POKEGIRL THAN HER (which that’s getting into an opposite problem), and HE’S NOT A GIRL (and also very bland). Cut her out and you don’t miss much in the current iteration of Journeys; but develop her, and she arguably could’ve been one of the best.
@crazyeeveelady36363 ай бұрын
I don't understand why Pokemon has become so allergic to the idea of letting an Eevee evolve... Like isn't that the whole point
@tina_theyt5332 ай бұрын
I guess they were trying to pull an Ash on that one. I don't know I'm just saying stuff.
@Powertoninetynine4 ай бұрын
Actually give her interaction with ash
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Now thinking about it they barley ever talked to each other
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@@Pokiiii62 For real bro like Ash and Chloe barely ever talked
@parvkaurav79734 ай бұрын
Why do you want them to talk
@danielawytte32284 ай бұрын
@@Kings0424 which is kind of funny because isn’t ash supposed to be this outgoing kid who easily makes friends…?
@Kings04244 ай бұрын
@danielawytte3228 Yeah but since Chloe is an introvert and barely ever traveled with Ash and Goh, I mean I'm not sure how they are supposed to be friends
@carleeelders8753 ай бұрын
Her character would have been a great way to bring back old characters: Literally could have just brought back Virgil for every eeveelution at once Or Anabel - Espeon Gladion - Umbreon Serena - Sylveon Zoey - Leafeon I would say May for Glaceon, but her voice actor couldn't return, so I respect the decision to just give her a cameo. If the original trio maybe the Eevee brothers? Volkner - Jolteon Flint - Flareon (he has one in the games, and it would've been cool since he is an elite four) Alima could have showcased the eevee z move. I personally think Chloes eevee should have gotten to Gigantimax. That would've made it special. So many missed opportunities
@tina_theyt5332 ай бұрын
Maybe you should have written her character.
@carleeelders8752 ай бұрын
@@tina_theyt533 Me and the rest of the fan base. Everyone has better ideas for Chloe than what we got
@jangeliqpapasin30464 ай бұрын
Chloe could've had so much more positives than just her design which is the only thing that i really like about her and i feel like it was a missed oppurtunity on pokemons end that they didnt give her more character development, also not evolving her eevee was a bad desision i feel like they could have done so much more with it like they could've introduced a new eeveelution since its been a while since we've had a good eeveelution
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
Real bruh such wasted potential
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Y'all so dumb
@ConfettiiCereal3 ай бұрын
They had the opportunity to have her and eevee be the female equivalent to ash and pikachu, very upsetting
@julanydakila69204 ай бұрын
If the developers actually created her good development without putting Goh a lot,she would have been a good character for the pokemon series
@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say she's the worst pokegirl in Pokemon history. It's not her fault that her potential was screwed around by the decisions of the writers. Just a very bad missed opportunity.
@natalimoina3 ай бұрын
Wrong
@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate3 ай бұрын
@@natalimoina Screw you. Take your “wrong” and shove it. Got it? Just because my answer doesn’t suit whatever you think is right, doesn’t make it wrong.
@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate3 ай бұрын
@@natalimoina That's your opinion. F*** off.
@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate3 ай бұрын
@@natalimoina Let me make something clear to you, whoever you are: just because I have my own thoughts about what I watch doesn't mean that it's wrong. And especially because of something like you coming up here and spouting off. If you don't like my answer, I couldn't care less. So goodbye and good riddance.
@AadarshKumar-ex3nz3 ай бұрын
Journeys could have introduced Virgil from Unova fans would have got a battle with Ash and also Chloe could have got character development also Journeys should have shown Chloe with GMax Evee as a proper conclusion
@tina_theyt5332 ай бұрын
Omg that would have been cool.
@GenHoenn4 ай бұрын
40 seconds ago is criminal 😭
@SethDyer4 ай бұрын
Like you said I find it really odd that she just met random people’s eeveelutions because all you have to do is just be like “oh btw this water type specialist ash battled and became friends with in the past has a vaporeon.” Like I swear when ash met Wallace in that episode where Chloe had a contest and met Serena she could’ve also chatted to Wallace about Vaporeon
@TwoelizAnimations3 ай бұрын
I was hoping her Eevee would have evolved into a new type as it could have parallel her not knowing what to do in her life. The answers aren't always discovered.
@acetrainerleo4834 ай бұрын
Chloes my least favorite pokegirl too. I gave her time when jn came around but i wasnt interested in her. And even i think having that episode during the masters 8 was not a good idea. I love her friendship with dawn and serena but chloe was treated poorly
@SJrad4 ай бұрын
I remember a lot of people hating iris in the anime
@brickbanditstudios60374 ай бұрын
Not my favorite, but I really love the glow up that she has in Journey. Reason I don’t like her was that she’s irritating in most small moments. But that toned down a lot
@LITTLE19944 ай бұрын
@@SJrad They messed her up pretty bad compared to what she is in the games.
@Nightshade37-o4y8 күн бұрын
Chloe should have caught the Galarian ponyta, just saying
@nnamditube64774 ай бұрын
Chole is a average kid that no one understands DAN DAN DAN
@_simplylink_4 ай бұрын
Ironically I love Chloe as a character because was absolutely the most relatable to me and her being just an ordinary girl with no interest in Pokémon because it was so normal to have them around felt like something that the anime didn't really have a true character for. It just sucks, I haven't finished journeys but now I know that her story doesn't really go anywhere seeing as even her performance arc doesn't go anywhere and we just regress and go against the whole point of her arc to not follow her father's footsteps. I always thought her eevee couldn't evolve because it was suppose to gigantamax at some point but apparently that didn't happen either which is really disappointing, honestly I love her journey of trying to find your path as a concept and eevee not evolving felt unique to me because they're going through the journey together of not knowing what they wanna do and be. We'll I'll still finish journeys, but really disappointed to hear she was wasted potential I enjoyed her focus episodes, at least I know Serena makes a comeback she's my favorite pokegirl
@Micstro.Iink-official3 ай бұрын
I didn't hate Chloe as much as everyone else did, but yeah I won't deny she isn't one of the better Pokegirls.
@PhantomJoker054 ай бұрын
I’ll give Chole a 7/10 at most mainly because of her Dub VA Cherami Leigh. Wonderful person I got to meet at Wonder Con. ❤
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
WOW THATS AMAZING!!!
@QueerHungrynerd3 ай бұрын
Ah yes Chloe, the Immaculate One.
@joshmeche13204 ай бұрын
“They didn’t really didn’t know what to do with Chloe” an allegory of what Journeys is in a nutshell lol
@NVSirius3 ай бұрын
Her Eevee is Probably my Least favourite Eevee Partner. What was the Point Of Her Eevee!? It couldn't Evolve which means it Must've been able Gigantamax. Which they didnt Do Anything With!
@beckthetinkerbot4 ай бұрын
I personally wished Chloe was Ash's partner for the final seasons,I didn't like it care for Gohan at all. He was so boring and annoying. Chasing an unachievable goal and just catching and catching Pokemon left and right. Some thing Ash should have been doing from the beginning. Chloe isn't a bad character it's the writers fault for focusing on Goh too much.
@soumyadeepmukherjee88784 ай бұрын
Gohan? From dragon ball 🤣🤣
@transjirachi4 ай бұрын
how is his goal unachievable ? It's like the exact same from a character in pokespe (crystal) ,, and crystal caught a LOT more pokemon
@stellart56644 ай бұрын
5:03 excellent choice with the Hollow Knight background music!
@stellart56644 ай бұрын
I noticed the description only says Undertale ost so idk if you knew this wasn’t an undertale song😅
@Pokiiii624 ай бұрын
I completely forgot about my hollowknight ost whoops. Dw I know hollowknight 😭
@SMCwasTaken4 ай бұрын
You know what's better than Hollow Knight OST? Kingdom Hearts OST
@alphamarigi2 ай бұрын
Not watching Iris is the worst.
@Alexdudegreen4 ай бұрын
It’s Mindy next question
@aaronfield78994 ай бұрын
Who the heck is Mindy?
@Alexdudegreen4 ай бұрын
@@aaronfield7899 she’s a person in the diamond, pearl, platinum, and the remakes who give you a haunter in a trade that holds a everstone
@nicholastodd89043 ай бұрын
maybe if we saw her eevee gigantamax that would have been better too
@saiyan44144 ай бұрын
the thing with Chloe's eevee is they were trying to promote Let'sGo Eevee with it which is why they had her go meet all of the eeveelutions and have hers not evolve.
@SirSailorStar3 ай бұрын
Her ponytail looks like a scorpion tail. That's mostly all I thought.
@LaffyTaffy043 ай бұрын
Honestly, I would play into the fact that it can't evolve and let it be a representative of the Let's Go Eevee. She could be mentored by an Eevee specialist to use the special moves from those games like Glitzy Glow and Bouncy Bubble. Also, I'd have Chloe find her place in Max Raids, not as an offensive specialist, but support, focusing on helping others calm the Dynamaxed pokemon down. It's weird how this show did Galar's storyline, but I don't remember them doing Max Raids.
@MisterMokuroh4 ай бұрын
Someone on Twitter compared JN to Paper Mario Sticker Star. Never has there been such an apt comparison.
@Smacgregor884 ай бұрын
I do love Cherami Leigh, but Chloe is her weakest role, along with that CGI mini power rangers or bug series. Ironically, we do get a "better" Chloe, and it's in the mirror universe episode.
@Austruches4 ай бұрын
Chloe with a Eevee is boring. It could have been cool if Eevee got a new evolution. Like Serena had a Eevee that evolved in the new evolution: Sylveon making her a non- boring Eevee trainer (+ all the character development she had). Chloe doesn’t have this advantage and has the problem of being the like fourth poke girl to have a Eevee…..she was very boring that I don’t remember if she had gmax Eevee, it would have been better! She suffered from lack of character development that yea…….kinda ruined it
@Draconicdisciple3 ай бұрын
I think a problem with choosing Espeon is if the only reason why you can feel relaxed about not knowing what your future holds is due to your Pokemon being able to know it for you, ultimately that's knowing what your future holds in a sense. You can take comfort in that your future is known to someone or something. That kind of comfort needs to come without having a clear sign that you can know the future or you will always be dependent on that clear sign, it'll be a crutch.
@marshadowhero58073 ай бұрын
Y'know what would've been cool? If we had her Alternative universe version of her instead.
@Pichu12323 ай бұрын
The fact the "her eevee is unable to evolve via any of the stone" plot was dropped is absolutly shit