The Worst Rank In The Army.

[@nathanreichwein2031]

As a Marine, a soldier friend of mine explained that Specialists are overpaid privates and Corporals are underpaid NCOs

[@Pooperz100]

damn

[@richardhicks5031]

@@Pooperz100 specialist is a time in service rank corporal is earned

[@keithdudley9199]

You the top dog of what s called a Fire Team when you are a Corporal right. Like a three - Four men Recon team plus you? Heard that was did a lot in the Gulf War up until Bosina/ Kosovo buy the Us military

[@johnfisher8401]

lol I remember going to jump school as a young corporal in the Corps. No drinking policy but I remember buying my whole squad bay a few handles of vodka and setting up this privates projector. Good times. Yes jump masters, I am slick and you never caught me, you sure came close though.

[@utopia4056]

As a military brat I'd rather be a specialist 🤣 I haven't had a lot of good run ins with a corporal and I was a kid🤣🤣🤣

[@gabrielcarrillo8988]

That was my last rank. You get all the responsibility of a Sargent with no respect. Like the Rodney Dangerfield of your platoon.

[@armynation31B5V5P]

Was promoted in the US Army as a Corporal after Airborne School. Lots of responsibilities. Led two Soldiers during Hurricane Andrews in Helmsted, FL. Felt really GREAT assisting and protecting civilians in the areas.

[@bldontmatter5319]

That's actually serving our country. Much respect. No respect given to "soldiers" who go off on some government tangent and kill random people overseas they've never met. You really did protect us.

[@roguespearsf]

Ok POG

[@nelsonr1467]

​@@bldontmatter5319100%

[@tasselhoff1293]

Thank you for everything you do bro. Our freedom and safety is built off the backs of heros like you. Thanks!

[@thestinkiestpp1894]

@@bldontmatter5319i still respect them

[@tainopride1]

I used to be a corporal, then my alarm went off. What a nightmare 😟🥹

[@GruppeSechs2004]

I was a Corporal and I hated it. I also realized people’s true colors when I got the rank, too. NCOs loved giving me the shit details and shitty soldiers to be in charge of, and some of (whom I thought were) my friends quickly had issues with authority. Fortunately for me, I made Sergeant and PCSd to a better unit.

[@GruppeSechs2004]

@@marcusmarcus9158 yes, I did

[@mikesnow4735]

Bro how does all that shit work man y’all make this shot sound interesting af love the men and woman who serve not so much the leaders in charge god bless

[@davidm.313]

Was my favorite rank in the Marines. Got to do a lot of the fun stuff, passed off a lot of the BS to my Lance Criminals and PFC's. All the fun stuff disappeared at Sgt.

[@SergyMilitaryRankings]

Did you fight in a real war or was it just mostly patrols with the odd engagement ?

[@bldontmatter5319]

@@SergyMilitaryRankings based question.

[@sethjr9815]

My units chaplain is a major and I was a lcpl, he would always sit and eat with us during mess and pray for us, I’m not religious but best experience ever

[@bangochupchup]

Don't you mean lieutenant commander?

[@sethjr9815]

@@bangochupchup Australia is slightly different, he had 1 crown which makes him a major, joked with him back in the Korean War he probably fought against my chinese grandpa whom was a captain and he was a private, by the time I got my australia discharge papers I was senior nco, world is getting really small

[@Venezolano410]

Off topic but are you a Linux user?

[@sheepleslayer586]

So, they're "bi-situational" 🤣

[@smokeydapot]

I'd always get a kick out of the semi-sarcastic respect I'd give to soldiers I knew who made CPL. I'd lock it up tighter talking to them then my 1stSGT and only ever address them as "corporal".

[@clonescope2433]

And not to mention the extra responsibilities come with no extra benefits such as maybe even like a 50 Cent pay increase.

[@MicahMeyer88]

It's the extra duty and responsibility rank, without the pay...

[@wintonhudelson2252]

New rank of Corporal-Captain.... I remember Pierce and Hunnicutt pulling that off. LOL

[@andrewgates8158]

Officer club and mess privileges

[@skipdreadman8765]

Cripes, you're OLD.

[@davidm3000ify]

In Cromwell's New Model Army (English Civil War era) the corporals held commissions. They commanded pickets and posted sentries.

[@wintonhudelson2252]

@@skipdreadman8765 my kids used to ask me if I got drafted....for the North or the South?

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Yep that lateral promotion sucks, all the responsibilities, without the support or pay. But even when I was retiring many were treated as PV-5 and PV-6.

[@answer4256]

Never had a lateral promotion I was in the infantry and automatically got Cpl rank once I made E-4

[@lelandgaunt9985]

@@answer4256 I pray respect is different in your realm. In the engineer world or other soft MOS’s you are not supported.

[@sicktodeath0_0]

When I was on active duty the promotion points were maxed out, so I was stuck in a long line of people who were waiting for promotion to E5. Our company needed NCOs to fill Team Leader slots, so I got promoted to Corporal to fill that slot. Funny how the Army had "too many Sergeants", while having a shortage of Sergeants.🙄 I didn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now. ✌️❤️

[@dirtyjrice]

E-4 mafia is the way to go. The ultimate sham shield.

[@brianpartlow5530]

As an NCO I treated corporals like fellow NCO's. When I was lower enlisted, I laughed at them. They got bullshit pay for more responsibility.

[@justanaverageyoutubeaccoun342]

The biggest difference between cpl and sgt is promotion points. With enough promotion points you can go from spc to sgt (or in most cases to cpl as a placeholder until you get promoted to sgt). But for the ones who don't have the promotion points they have to frantically scramble to get the promotion points to hit e5

[@jolanderphilip]

As an infantrymen It was an honor to wear those stripes

[@abbottshaull9831]

LOL as 11B1P in the 82nd Replacement Detachment, saw a Corporal who transferring into the 82nd Airborne that there were no Corporals in Division. Never saw a Corporal mugging around in the 82nd Airborne, but I saw plenty of Specialist who served as Team Leaders until they got to BLC back in the late 1980's.

[@fanart2482]

Staff Sergeant is more chaotic bc you either stuck at that rank and never earn a promotion ever again

[@johnbueg365]

In the Marine Corps in the 80s when I got promoted to CPL I could go to the NCO/officer line in the chow hall and to the NCO club on base …. Different times… they were better

[@TooTappy]

I would say its one of the cooler ranks. Who said you only had to choose your buddies or the officers. Get in good with both and you increase your chances of opportunities and relationships. Connections are very important. (Edit- last sentence added)

[@colinsanders9397]

yeah, that's not really how it works. You really do have to pick the homies or the big boys. That's just the nature of the job.

[@deusvult6920]

There's this thing called a prohibition on fraternizing with subordinates. You can't just be cool with everyone. That's not how the military works.

[@jessegillmore7228]

Our corporal was the party officer. Made sure no one got too wasted for PT the next day.

[@shawnr771]

There were two kinds of Corporals in the 1980s. One was a Department of the Army Corporal. The orders were issued by the DA for promotion. The rank would stay with the soldier during a duty change. The other was a temporary promotion of an E4 who was in a Team Leader slot for more than 60 days. The Battalion commander had promotion authority The moment the soldier was moved to a non leadership duty position, they reverted to a Specialist. Either way glad a I went straight from E4 Specialist to E5. Corporals because they technically "leaders" cant hang out with their buddies or the can get fraternization charges. And Sergeants dont want them around. I agree worst rank to be in the Army.

[@randykittelson2456]

Not to mention all of the responsibilities of an NCO without the training or support.

[@Crustymarine]

50 years ago, being promoted to Corporal was sort of a milestone in the Marine Corps. It meant something.

[@beefynfn]

My great grandpa was corporal rank in WW2, he fought in the Battle of the Bulge as a private but because of some acts if bravery or something (I can't remember exactly) and was then promoted Edit: now that I think about it, some of his other squadmates might've gotten killed and so he was promoted by default

[@xgetxsickx]

Never got to meet my grandfather but he was a corporal. New found respect for that man.

[@ronrobertson59]

I was a corporal I liked the rank. How I became cpl was my first Sgt was walking around with pin on ranks in his hand. He stopped looked at for a second and handed my a set of cpl pins and said " go see the company clerk" and that's how I became a cpl.

[@herkload]

I find the rank of corporal pretty interesting, in the AF we don't have an E-4 NCO rank.

[@earlwyss520]

Not since May of 1991. I was one of the LAST USAF E-4 Sergeants. I put it on in January of 1991 and separated in September of 1997

[@deangestner6708]

NCOs , the backbone of every service

[@BrentDnD]

As a specialist who had to take over as squad leader for a month, I was promoted to corporal. I did NCO things and “sat with” the NCOs. I was shortly promoted to SGT as soon as I had time in service requirements met, so it was only for a short while that I wore corporal rank.

[@mikedydiver]

The corporal, dismissed most often, but never forget the corporal who changed the world forever and insights soo much emotion from everyone. If you do things might repeat itself again.

[@pavelthefabulous5675]

Funni moustache man was a Lance Corporal, and his "MOS" was mail clerk. So remember that when the mail is running too slow.

[@skipdreadman8765]

​@@pavelthefabulous5675 He was a runner in the Infantry, carrying messages and orders at the front, not a mail clerk. He was actually wounded doing that job. He didn't have anything to to do with the mail, so stop vilifying mail clerks. There's enough REAL history. You don't need to make stuff up.

[@pavelthefabulous5675]

@@skipdreadman8765 I worked S-1 too, I'm not trying to disparage mail clerks but just telling a joke.

[@pavelthefabulous5675]

@@skipdreadman8765 To be fair though, he was probably closer to a mail orderly.

[@firefly9838]

Corporal Shepard? Is that you?

[@DeadtownNothing]

Only promotion where you lose money.

[@mexicool187]

Skipped corporal went to sergeant then after sergeant went to second lieutenant!!!

[@rogersepeda4378]

It’s like being in limbo . It really is a hybrid rank . You’re an nco but you don’t get an ncoer . You’re just getting low balled on your pay .

[@37Sith]

I was one of those. And you're absolutely right! You don't know who you're friends are anymore. I got "Promoted " cuz I got sent to NBC School and we did not have an NBC NCO Running the room.... So, they made me corporal for like a hot minute. Got an E5 back in the room within 2 months, then I'm back to the E4 Mafia....

[@Antares_451]

I still have my ID with my Cpl. rank an Nope, went given was definitely earned.

[@robert-trading-as-Bob69]

In the SADF there more corporals than sargeants, corporals had their own mess. They did most of the training of our recruits. I was a lance-corporal and had a bloody nightmare dealing with the corp and sargeants. In my training squadron I don't even know if we had a lieutenant or a sargeant... never saw them if they existed, we were yelled at by everyone but those two.

[@bangochupchup]

I have a great deal of respect for the SADF.

[@skipdreadman8765]

In the British military tradition, corporal is more like a US staff sergeant. A British staff sergeant is more like an American SFC.

[@robert-trading-as-Bob69]

@@skipdreadman8765 for all it's attempts to avoid anything English, the British military system continued in some ways in the SADF. The Afrikaaner knew it worked best here.

[@javierdavila1569]

What truly sucks is that even when you go up to corporal you still get paid specialist wage.

[@tiorobot]

That unit patch of the bear and star bring back memories. I loaded two conex containers at the NTC and took them to Texas. They had the same picture as that patch.

[@Mark_317]

I was a corporal in the army from 2009 to 2010.

[@richardthompson2969]

I think it sucked being a SPC… I was a supply sergeant in charge of a few PVT- PFC supply clerks… I had all the responsibility without authority.

[@originalhuggies9740]

I am really proud to have been a Corporal of Marines.

[@dimasakbar7668]

In my territory there's this derogatory term called "stucked corporal". Basically long timer that is not humble enough to act as pvt., not qualified enough to be sgt., command, ( higher officer still alive) or to quit, but act like Lt. Frat guys

[@pvtread5207]

Bruh Our platoon cpl was the most goofy yet cool guy ever! Like seriously he picked me up once, spun me around and I puked a bit. He just laughed and said I was cool

[@scoutgaming737]

I'm early, so I must contribute nothing to the comment section

[@herkload]

Scout gaming

[@scoutgaming737]

@@herkload scout gaming

[@williamwright9344]

this is the way.

[@sofusarvin6509]

In Denmark pretty much the only Corporals are the Military Police as have to be able to give orders.

[@richardhicks5031]

The junior NCO

[@derekdavies7374]

This happens alot when there is a critical shortage Mos and meps offers a large bonus and there is a huge influx of soldiers in that Mos who all happen to wanna make sergeant at the same time and when that happens points are so high you will never make cutoff for sergeant or you sit on a list of hundreds waiting meanwhile you are promoted to corporal more responsibility same pay as a specialist doesn't make sense but nothing about the army hence why I did my 5 years 2 deployments and got the fuck out

[@earlwyss520]

I was one of the LAST USAF E-4 Sergeants. I put it on in January of 1991 (the last E-4 Sgts were promoted in May 91) and got out in September of 1997. As a young (22 years old) USAF Security Police Sergeant, I lead multiple 2 man teams, 4 man Fire Teams. I was also qualified as an Area Supervisor for a Nuclear Weapons Storage Area with responsibility for the nuclear weapons, 17 Turkish airmen, and 4 other Americans.

[@thedm8531]

Take that specialist rank out and it’ll solve the whole equation……sincerely the United States Marine Corps

[@andrewgates8158]

Add a lance specialist rank. Lol

[@g.sanders6916]

As of 2021 In the Army you get Corporal after completing BLC. BLC is a requirement for E5. So an easy way to tell the difference between a Specialist and Corporal, one is promotable the other is not. The Corporal is also officially a junior NCO, the Specialist isn't.

[@soldierboyUSA26]

I see a CPL as OJT to the Sergeant rank; I wiahed I had that opportunity to be a CPL. I was a Specialist 5 with no leadership background, & was laterally promoted to Sergeant when the Army abolished all Specialist 5 & above; it was a shock to me coming from a technical rank to a leadership rank. PLDC does nothing without OJT.

[@skipdreadman8765]

Holy crap, you're OLD!

[@levisayev4398]

I need to see whole spread sheet

[@alexanderking3008]

In the British forces a private will not make corporal until they've logged enough operational combat time

[@giljensen1132]

As an ex corporal I can compare it to a technical lead in business today you have the responsibility but not the pay

[@NarutoOnDope]

The only benefit I had I when I was a Corporal for 2 years is I didn't get reemed has hard as SGT's did when we fucked up because most just assumed " he's learning how to be an NCO"

[@brizzle8797]

It does kind of suck! I got promoted to Corporal when we were deployed and my staff sergeant missed movement! We ran a huge communication Network and so I was in charge of all day shift operations and he was to report to me the entire deployment, oh that wasn't awkward or anything!

[@chris-parker]

All of the responsibilities of a NCO, but at the E4 pay.

[@christiantroy3034]

In the Marine Corps Corporals don’t have an Identity crisis like in the army.

[@darthorion2002]

Exactly. It just makes no sense. Just be like the Marines or try to emulate us. At the very least, the army still has to fix their new leader ship

[@owenhammond1880]

Honestly a guy that I know literally refused to get promoted to CPL because he didn't want to do extra work without a pay raise.

[@earlwyss520]

I was a Security Policeman in the USAF & stayed at E-4 Sgt because I didn't think I was Old enough for E-5 Staff Sergeant at first, but realized (especially when I got to the missile field) that I didn't want E-5, because the "FUN" would be over, and I'd have to go work in an office.

[@philliprunge]

I was a Corporal in the Field Artillery. I loved it.

[@bangochupchup]

The USMC is comprised of the Commandant, a few other people and thousands of Lance Corporals.

[@eio1971]

I got lateraly promoted to corporal E-5 's and E-6's said i was an NCO, E7's said I was an E-4 but would make me the "NCO" in charge of clean up details. Fun times.

[@tomobrien6983]

As a Marine, had no issue regarding being neither fish or fowel

[@joshuac7]

Work of a SGT for the pay of a SPC

[@comcastjohn]

They wanna give you the responsibility of an NCO but not the privileges or pay. That is what it boils down to. An E-5 is up for CQ and he wants the day off, so he delegates it to the Junior NCO being a Corporal. See how that works? Been there, done that on both sides in the Army.

[@eugenedelaney5216]

I was a Corporal out of RangerSchool in Nam all the senior Officer and NCOs were down Itook over command because I had command authority as a command rank! Later I wD commended on my leadership skills my father was a Master Gunnery in the USMC and N Uncle Corporal Abn Ranger! I say wherever I wanted

[@darenhunt1771]

Dunno specialist sounds way cooler than corporal imho

[@509Gman]

All of the responsibility, none of the respect

[@onerimeuse]

That pocket made my eye twitch. You can take an nco out of the Army... But hard to go the other way.

[@davidlindsey6111]

It’s not complicated. People simply have a hard time divorcing responsibilities from casual social interaction.

[@kodiakmkv]

I guess in a war corporals are important in the chain of command,if your Sargent gets taken out you can fill the slot and take over his role.?

[@tomheineman4369]

I was sent back to school for ADT and I was a sergeant getting bossed around by a Corporal. He would say things like open up them books and study. He was a slow learner too but he had been to Korea for a tour so...

[@josephcamacho8043]

Back in 08 my pop told me stories about this he said he stayed with his mates but was not denied unless important people were there

[@archieletsyouknow5508]

💯🤣 the only reason I think I received my Corporal Stripes was to do CQ DUDY🤣🤣AIR ASSAULT 👍🏼. You should do a video on Old School PLDC TRAINING

[@hallmichael35]

I was never more salty than when I was a CPL

[@ernstbergerbrent]

They are the same paygrade. Sorta like SGM and CSM or MSG and 1SG

[@SecurityMonitorLizard]

Worst. Rank. Ever. I spent a few years as a corporal. All of the work of a sergeant, but none of the pay.

[@el3ctronic]

In my last unit if you were promoted to corporal then transfered you didn't get to keep that rank unless it was sent to a command (above base).

[@luisbarrasabengoa8289]

Corporal and Specialist are the same paygrade, completely different ranks

[@dcuthbertson5778]

Yeah we didn't have corporals in our unit. I saw it more with the combat arms units in the Army

[@idgamingfederation202]

4 years Army J.R.O.T.C. Graduated as a Cadet First Lieutenant, 1 year Army R.O.T.C. at end up my 2nd semester I achieved the the rank of Corporal, 2 weeks later fell off a obstacle at a summer semester camp and landed on my neck from 6 feet off the ground, I was six weeks away from signing my LOI, we are soon approaching 20 years of them letting me fall into the cracks and not getting me help. the University abolished its charter and reformed under a new one with another University and I wasn't the only one who got hosed by it. I'm tired of being in pain, and being angry about this, but the pain never goes away so the anger is always in the forefront of my mind.

[@XaviRonaldo0]

My grandfather was an RAAF ADG in WW2. Yes I know it's airforce but it's still a combat role. They wanted to promote him to Sargent but he didn't want it

[@rippersix293]

A corporal is an E-4 or equivalent to a 3rd Class Petty officer in the Navy. Now, I don’t know about the Army’s hierarchy, but in the Navy that is just about the perfect rank, as far as high enough not to have to do shit jobs, yet low enough to not have a bunch of responsibilities.

[@sidnation7486]

E4 Mafia😂😂😂

[@benjamintaylor5509]

E5 is the new corporal honestly they'll throw you stripes for not getting arrested.

[@deusvult6920]

It's not boosted it's a lateral promotion

[@g.sanders6916]

On the job training for E5

[@mabutoo]

All the NCO responsibilities with none of the pay.

[@ntfespolion3079]

In my country corporal is the normal soldier rank "just after Private (trained)"

[@RonJohn63]

My son is an E-4 in the AF, and does *not* consider himself to be an NCO.

[@tnc7399]

I know this youtuber who was an E-4, maybe he got higher, idk ranks. But he denied becoming a corporal by denying going into the course they want him to because he fixed guns.

[@cesblazikenturmoil9455]

A U.S Army Corporal is a Noncommissioned Officer, so yea, tou sit with the Staff Sergeants and above unless told otherwise.

[@oscarbarragan6675]

I got the bullshit stripes before going to Iraq in 2003 because I got to my unit and it was at 150% so they gave me some privates right out of basic and put stripes on me and wala a whole new squad.

[@Grizzly39]

I got CPL after I passed the board and got my EIB in the same week.

[@phillipallen3259]

That's why the Marine Corps rank structure is easier/better. A Corporal is an NCO there is no Specialists.

[@Alex_Tango]

Specialist is the rank of let me the fk alone

[@ryangamalielgallao9545]

You have a lookalike, a famous leader hehehe

[@christopherwood9009]

In stead of making Squad Leaders rank Sergeants (later Staff Sergeant) in stead of Corporals (as you did in WW1) for the increased command and combat experience, why not have just increased promotion requirements to Corporal and keep Lance Corporal (1 shevron) and keep PFC but maybe as a horizontal bar or something?

[@Introverted_goblin_]

One of the army units I was in would make someone a corporal if they disliked them and wanted them to not reup their contract.

[@DontUNVME]

E4 Mafia will tear a a cpl up

[@Ritz-Carlton]

Same thing happens in the marines

[@lyfandeth]

Hey, if it was good enough for Radar, it should be good enough.