The WORST Thing About the S&W 15-22

[@teagansmith3326]

Oh no! You took off a structural part and hung a heavy plate on the barrel of a 90% polymer .22 and it warped your shots??? I am shocked and appalled! 🥴

[@raywright998]

The mate is a mate. Perhaps that's were the problem starts lol

[@lalahaha99012]

I’m really glad I read the comments instead of watching People do some terrible things thinking that they’re making it better they act like the gunsmith wasn’t quite sure what he was doing And that they can better it

[@cokedaz]

I have had a 15-22 for 8 years now, easily the most reliable rifle I have owned. If you use CCI MiniMags or Blazer it almost never has a stoppage. A 12inch barrel and a swapped out handguard make it ideal. I don't hang heavy things off the front of mine or push it against barricades. 99% of the time I am off hand shooting. Maybe mine would have this issue as well but I haven't noticed any shift over the years from how I use it. Perhaps adjusting your resting style would help, do you really need to push that hard into a barricade? If you are aware of this can't you just avoid the problem by resting it normally? Besides it is the lightest and most reliable out there. I would probably say that might have more benefit over other guns even with the group shift. It is built from the ground up as .22, it isn't trying to be a scale replica of an AR-15 and I think that helps it a lot, the bolt mass can be smaller and easier to deal with, far less moving parts in an enclosed system. It has nothing on it that it doesn't need to weigh it down or complicate it. I can't even remember the last time I had a jam in the last 4-5 years with it. No parts have broke yet, always consistent. Other options even the Tippmann seem to have some negatives in some areas as well especially magazines. I still think the 15-22 is the best way to go. I couldn't recommend it enough.

[@jmhtx2307]

ive noticed mine only ever struggled with hollowpoints. honestly i didnt mean to buy HP ammo for it, it was just an oversight on my part when buying the ammo but i would have a failure to load almost every 3-4th round. with regular FMJ ammo I've never had a single issue since. (probably getting close to 3k rounds now)

[@stephenmahon6714]

I have M&P AR15-22LR performance center rifle . Can’t begin to tell you how many rounds have been through that rifle . It’s dead balls on , right out of the box . Even at 100yds. Run mini mags as well . My daughters enjoy that rifle as well 🍺🍀

[@1c_redd]

WTH? I never hang a bag, or anything else, on my rifle so I don’t think that would be a problem for me.

[@stinct1776]

Amusing how in the US we can easily acquire firearms but have to bend backwards to acquire "short barreled rifles". Meanwhile in the UK they have to bend backwards to buy any firearm, but at least "short barreled rifles" are seemingly treated the same way as any other rifle (or am I wrong?)

[@Range23]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. It's a long, drawn out process to get a firearms certificate here, lots of police and medical checks. But once you have it, most things come under the same requirements for lengths etc. It's also much easier to get suppressors over here too, I've know police put them down on certificates without people even asking for them!

[@stinct1776]

@@Range23 I didn't see you cycle the rifles. are they semis or pull backs? That's right, suppressors are also a "big deal" here whereas over there it's just common sense hearing protection. Both SBR/SBS and suppressor restrictions are a taxation scheme here, a 1930's relic. Government's grabby hands making something so simple a "special thing". Carry on brother!

[@Range23]

@@stinct1776 yeah, they’re both semis. We can only have semi auto in 22 rimfire and shotguns, anything centrefire has to be a manual action (bolt/lever/straight pull/etc.). That sounds very similar to over here in some ways, a lot of our laws are from legacy policy and outdated for the modern world. Who knows, maybe one day we’ll have some actual ‘common sense’ laws 😂

[@stinct1776]

@@Range23 Right, it's coming back now. I now recall hearing about action restrictions, and some weird SUPER long barrel requirements for handguns. We sure can hope for real common sense but it's a dying thing these days. Come join us on the other side of the pond, you won't be disappointed with our ways (just avoid the typical "common sense" states).

[@PerspectivePossibilities]

So, are there different laws depending on what part of England you're in? Like how every state here in the US has drastically diff laws 🚮 & I was shocked as well when you said you had the barrel cut from 16" to 12" That's a felony ova here in the states lmao Can't saw your shotgun shorter none of that smh. & Ofc the whole SBR/pistol brace bs that just went into effect from the ATF. Lotta bs going on ova here man. Nice video & I appreciate you fam. Love from the US to across the pond!

[@jmsn36]

No disrespect mate but you shot horribly with both....that being said both your rifles are set up beautifully

[@Range23]

Oh believe me, I know 😂 It was an ‘off the cuff’ video with a very janky set up. I’d like to repeat the test in the future in more controlled conditions, should make for better results

[@NortheastSurvival911]

I'm going to disagree with you because of his shooting is that bad clearly all that shit on those weapons does him absolutely zero good for improvement if anything it's making his marksmanship skills worse.

[@NewlyOutdoors]

@@NortheastSurvival911 it is a .22lr so they’re not that accurate with those rifles at far distances also depends on ammo

[@themodernprepper7632]

British

[@JimmyCzerwinski-p4g]

adjust the damn scope

[@801Self]

Who tf cuts a barrel and then complains about its accuracy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i mean just wow... this is the saddest video ive ever watched so happy i fast forwarded it...

[@ebusdk]

Was going to write the same. On top of that, I would find a safer spot than next to a highway to shoot my guns.

[@801Self]

@ebusdk if my property ran next to the freeway id shoot 20 to 50 yards from the freeway in the opposite direction maybe but id have to feel comfortable with it.

[@OrdinaryMenace]

Adds sniper scope, cuts barrel. 😂

[@airgliderz]

Idiot cut the barrel then ignorantly then complains about accuracy, can't fix stupid.

[@grits_taste_good415]

Cutting the barrel doesn't dictate the accuracy of the barrel. Only the quality and mount does

[@randalloberdier2064]

What I've learned here is don't put your purse on the end of the barrel.

[@Andrew-us2fk]

Removes the thing that keeps the barrel centered and supported. Then proceeds to complain it doesn't work properly........

[@littlejohn07]

I can clearly understand why we defeated the British .

[@Range23]

😂

[@MrNobody-gi3gj]

No issues here to sway away from my 15/22 first gen. swapped handguard out with tacticool22 one back after about a month old. its much better than any other 22 LR kit ive had for other AR platforms.

[@willywonka6252]

Fatal flaw would mean it’s going to fail you in a self defense situation. I really don’t ever see a time I’m going to set up a tripod and hang weight on front of gun to defend myself. Wife has at least 8000 rounds through her M&P 15-22 in 2.5 years it’s near flawless and accurate AF long as you dont run the federal 800 round blue box

[@johndaviddoesmith4504]

Exzackerly

[@LoneWolf23NJJB]

I like how he said he’s not shooting for groups but for the point of impact then after he’s done shooting says let’s go look at the group (6:42)

[@benbearkiller]

You freefloated a barrel that wasn’t supposed to be freefloated?? Someone let me know if I comprehended this correctly.

[@Range23]

100% comprehension

[@kfsrmn]

Found this out years ago using a bipod. Cheap fix. Mounted a 6" x 5/8" riser bridging the fore end to the receiver. Use standard scope rings on the bridge instead of an offset.

[@Range23]

Good solution. Did it deflect your shots much when using the bipod without the riser bridge?

[@kfsrmn]

@@Range23 Yes it did. Opposite direction from the bag. More pressure on the bipod = more deflection.

[@Range23]

@@kfsrmn yeah, that makes sense. Glad you found a workaround for it 👍🏻

[@benduker6839]

Interesting video Bob! Thankfully I don’t think I’ll be hanging any weight on mine anytime soon! Two questions…….which torch do you have mounted? And when will you be reviewing the T2 WMR?!

[@Range23]

Cheers, yeah it is a bit of an extreme test i guess, but it demonstrates the point quite well. The torch is a Cloud REIN 2.0. Not sure on the T2, hopefully get one in sometime soon🤞🏼

[@Dudley-q1j]

Do you use the CMMG 22LR BCG with a chamber adapter and 5.56 barrel or a CMMG 22LR BCG without a chamber adapter and a 22LR barrel in you "mil spec" (not S&W) AR? I would be interested to know.

[@Range23]

This one is a dedicated 22lr (most in the UK are). The bolt is the same, it’s just a different collar and uses a 22lr chambered barrel 👍🏻

[@kenreilley1434]

I'm reminded of the story about the guy who goes to the doctor and complains that it hurts when he lifts his arm over his head.

[@mikebobier647]

Ill bite. Tell the rest😂😂😂

[@richardbateman5344]

Then don't lift your fucking arms over your head....lol...

[@MW-bi1pi]

Because I always hang a backpack off my barrel when I shoot from a rest, and when I shoot standing too. Doesn't everybody?

[@ghostdog7576]

where did you get that magazine from?? please and thank you

[@Range23]

I make them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJO9eIhmZaqEr9E

[@carlosreyes8274]

I just got a MP 15-22 last Tuesday and I'm happy with it. Didn't adjust the sights and shot it at an indoor range right after I got it from the store. It was only from 10m and the POI was predictably low. Near zero is probably at 25m and far zero at 50m but I have to verify. Love the thing.❤ I'm not gonna cut the barrel or hang a bag in front of the barrel that's for sure. Barrel harmonics and all. Author is dead wrong on the fatal flaw of the MP 15-22. Fatal flaws is cutting the barrel and hanging a bag in front of the barrel while shooting.

[@1947froggy]

Dude that ammo bag or whatever it is weighs more than the Smith and it's swinging in the wind. So of course it's going to affect the Smith more than your AR that weighs at least twice the Smith. So sorry. No offense but that's a dumb test

[@alexmcbrayer9755]

So where did you get the magpul pmag sleeve for the magazines?

[@Range23]

I make them. They’re called ‘PCM mags’. There’s more info on the Range 23 instagram and Facebook pages 👍🏻

[@tomatoman3706]

what magazines are those??? how did you get pmags for 15-22 and cmmg conversion?

[@Range23]

I make them myself. More info on the Range 23 Instagram page. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJO9eIhmZaqEr9E

[@tututurry]

Which magazine are using on the m&p 15 22?

[@Range23]

They’re some custom ones I make called ‘PCM’ Mags

[@tututurry]

@Range23 really?? Can you share it if possible?

[@Range23]

@@tututurry they’re hand made to order. Usually done to work in ‘milspec’ receivers, but these were a custom lot done to fit the 1522. There’s info on my instagram page on them - Range23uk

[@hoatzen7887]

fortunately for me, I don't use my rifle as a purse hanger. so I think I'll be set.

[@hoatzen7887]

i somehow ended up here again; am equally astounded. you guys know it's mostly poly yeh?

[@jesusbrambila1able]

Hey just found your channel what magazines are you using on the mp15-22?

[@Range23]

They’re custom made ‘PCM’ magazines that I make myself

[@therealogbaggy470]

Mine saved me and my family from 3 home intruders I killed 2 out of the 3 with 6 shots

[@cheeng1]

Wow, that’s the first I’ve heard of someone using the 15-22 for home defense. If you don’t mind me asking, How quickly did it put down the intruders?

[@kevinwall795]

So, note to self: Don't hang any weight off the end of the barrel when engaging targets...

[@StratBurst92]

Bought one when they first came out. Still have it, thousands of rounds with no problems.

[@markcorley8795]

What is your point putting the weight on the rifle?

[@Range23]

It’s to keep the force applied to each rifle the same. If I’d just rested on a barricade or forcefully gripped the handguard it would be inconsistent

[@sharedpollard4407]

I actually built one for cheaper. I did an AR15 chambered in lr, but i use S&W mags with a "better mag" insert and some borebuddy equipement. Have not had one failed round in about 300 rounds.

[@Range23]

Nice. I’m a big fan of the BoreBuddy parts, running quite a few myself. You can certainly tell the difference when you’re using them

[@hgarza1136]

Where did you find what looks like a Pmag for the M&P 15-22?

[@Range23]

I make them myself. They’re called PCM magazines.

[@chriswilliamson806]

I own the 15-22... the only "issue" I've ever had with jamming or whatever... was due to loading the mags wrong... I've found the rounds need to be in an elevated state in the mag... that's with thousands of rounds through it, and owning it for over a decade.

[@carbinejoey612]

Same Here I love my m&p 23 this guy's is comparing a 22lr to a ar15 😅

[@craigtayntor489]

​@@carbinejoey612HE NEEDS HELP . MY 10 YEAR OLD GRANDSON FEOM A TO Z HAS HIM ,,WELL YA GET IT!

[@buckshotaaa]

Just found your channel mate, what a refreshing change from a lot of the more shouty presentations from "overseas". I've subbed so now i'll be trawling through your other videos in due coarse. I used to own a M&P, after about a year i traded (upgraded) to a Tippmann M4 Elite L. Wow, what a difference, as you say the Smith is ok for close in plinking, mine never missed a beat with no FTF's or FTE's but the Tippmann is light years ahead in al areas. Well done on your channel chap, keep 'em rolling.👍👍👍

[@Range23]

Cheers 🙏🏻

[@alparrish5660]

A real test would have been the same rifle , and then change the CMMG Bolt. Also The Different ammo (Not mentioned) will make the difference. Because of the wind, maybe move closer. However as long as it did not jam or misfire I guess it's all good. I'd bet you did not use the CHEAP FEDERAl Shells.

[@Range23]

I want to do another video on this, with a bit more planning next time as this one was really ‘off the cuff’. I’ll get around to it at some point in the future 👍🏻

[@Pmedic605]

SO if you don't hang your purse off the front of the gun, you should be OK.

[@neilaxelrod5872]

My M&P 15-22 is very accurate. But I didn’t chop the barrel or remove stabilizing parts from mine. Makes an SBR and adds a scope to it. 😂

[@jamjedi1972]

Greetings from Oklahoma! Wow very nice video! I own two, a pistol version and a carbine. Ive wonder about the flex of the polymer receivers but have never seen a good test like yours. I just plink with mine and love them both! Excellent video! New sub here!!!!!!!!!

[@Range23]

Now then, thanks for watching 👍🏻 It was a bit of a rough test, but it demonstrates the point. I’d like to do a more controlled test in the future.

[@jamjedi1972]

@@Range23 As rough as it may be, it was very telling. I knew polymer flexed, but didn’t realize how much lol. Will be looking forward to your future tests.

[@mikebobier647]

Do you think maybe the barrel guide should be put back on. The added weight probably jacked up the barrel harmonics. It happens all the time when you put additional pressure on the barrel

[@Range23]

No, the clip in piece uses the barrel to support the handguard so if anything it would make things worse.

[@beardedshooter9540]

Thing of beauty watching Matty go full instructor mode

[@Range23]

He wasn’t one but phased by my piss taking. Even made me salute him at the end

[@milspec_matty]

@@Range23 no salute required, I work for a living

[@Range23]

@@milspec_matty ‘work’, I’ve seen your reels! 😂

[@milspec_matty]

@@Range23 glad someone has

[@Range23]

@@milspec_matty 😂

[@torencalduris3114]

Isn't the barrel free floated? If so, why is this happening?

[@Range23]

Indeed, it’s the receiver that’s flexing, I think I covered that in the vid 😂👍🏻

[@79lew]

What mags are you using with the -5-22 ?

[@Range23]

They’re some custom PCM magazines I made as a special order. There’s a video on my channel and more info on my instagram 👍🏻

[@jkevinf5091]

So, don’t hang weight off the end of the rifle, and shoot with the 16.5 in barrel. You want a pistol? BUY a pistol, don’t muck about with a rifle trying to be something it wasn’t intended to be.

[@MrToolman454]

What kind of mags were you using with your 15-22?

[@Range23]

They’re some I make myself, called ‘PCM’ mags. There’s more info on my IG page if you’re interested 👍🏻

[@koongfu00]

I wouldn't call that a problem if you are the one that generates it.

[@lennykibbs260]

I don't understand your test ..... Why would you hang any weight at the end of your barrel?

[@patrikschalin8524]

What are the pmag looking mp15-22 seen at the beging of shooting?

[@Range23]

They’re PCM mags. I make them myself. There’s a video on my channel on them and more info on the Range 23 Instagram/Facebook pages 👍🏻

[@jabbott376]

Bob, I love your work, but Jesus Christ, those groups 😂. My issue with this test is that you've removed the barrel handguard plate that comes standard with the gun. Is the purpose of that plate to provide support relating to this issue? Without testing the gun in its factory state there's too many "what ifs" to make meaningful conclusions (though I do accept that the flex is happening back at the receiver).

[@Range23]

Haha, yeah, definitely not my best groups 😂 Quite the contrary, the handguard/barrel clamp is there to support the handguard WITH the barrel (similar to the original front sight/gasblock on an AR). Removing it free floats the barrel which stops any outside forces acting on it, reducing any POI shift. It’s the same reason most modern ARs use free floated barrels and handguards. This was a very quick, impromptu test. It would be interesting to repeat if from a rest with less wind etc. Even to compare the gun with/without the barrel collar fitted

[@jabbott376]

@@Range23 I appreciate the point about free floating the barrel. My gut feeling would be that S&W know how to make guns so the collar should be serving a purpose. For me, removing what appears (based on modern best practice) to be an aberrant design element undermines the test. Definitely want to see what happens with it in place. Probably the exact same result 😂.

[@Range23]

@@jabbott376but if the flex is coming from the receiver, ask what good would the barrel collar do? In certain circumstances it could make the issue even worse. Fuck it, we’re testing it again! 😂

[@stevebzz839]

@@jabbott376 my group is tighter with it removed..

[@189804]

@@Range23 sorry but removing the end cap doesn't magically make the M&P have a free floating barrel

[@NVG-fc3sk]

Is that a pmag for a 1522? Or did you mod it?

[@Range23]

Yeah, it’s a custom ‘PCM’ magazine that I made.

[@NVG-fc3sk]

Would you do a tutorial or show how you did it?

[@michaelr130]

I don’t think I could shoot groups that bad if I closed my eyes.

[@Range23]

😂

[@kwagga.robertsa8871]

never trust a gun review with a guy that makes his decision on how well it shoots while holding his handbag.........look out for the second review.......shooting my gun while it holds my purse

[@buddy9577]

POLYMER IS FINE FOR A 22

[@Lostflipper24]

WHY ARE WE YELLING

[@Pirategod23]

@@Lostflipper24LOUD NOISES

[@Cutface141]

I'm surprised you're allowed to have that

[@philbertSC]

What twist is the barrel on the conversion ar-15?

[@Range23]

1:16

[@DownrangeDaddy]

What magazine are you using? Is that a Magpul magazine for the 15-22???

[@Range23]

I make them myself, these were a custom set for the 15-22. There’s more info on my instagram and Facebook pages if you’re interested 👍🏻

[@_Delta_P_]

Are sbrs legal in the UK? I’m furious in Texan

[@Range23]

Haha! We can have minimum length 12” barrels and 24” overall for rifles here. No semi auto centrefires though, so don’t be too mad, you guys still got the good stuff! 😂

[@usmc24thmeu36]

He shot as good as the red coats did.😂😂

[@fightingglobal726]

Which would you recommend colt m4 or this?

[@brianhunt8754]

What magazines are you using?

[@Range23]

These are ‘PCM magazines’, I make them myself. There’s more info on them on my FB and IG pages 👍🏻

[@mrm0j0risin66]

Ive never ever seen a bag hung on the end of a rifle or see the benefits of it especially a .22lr w/ no recoil. Is that a thing the redcoats did? Weird you lost all those wars.

[@tylernelson80]

And lets just go ahead and place a blind person behind the wheel of a car to see how well it handles

[@as03uk]

How did you get a pmag inside the 15 22??

[@Range23]

I make the mags myself, there’s a video on my channel about them

[@as03uk]

@@Range23 thanks just found it! Amazing. I really wanted to see the shell, and how it fits the over? I’d love to do this myself, or fit a regular usgi exterior (awaiting paper work)

[@Range23]

@@as03uk check out my instagram pal 👍🏻

[@jerryhribal3695]

What scope is mounted? thanks

[@Range23]

It’s a vortex strike eagle 1-8 LPVO

[@martingomez3873]

Great scope. Goes to show the money you spend on accessories does not make you a better shooter.

[@law0472]

Great video very informative

[@Range23]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@pumpkinheadghoul]

The WORST thing about the S&W 15-22 is they don't come with 1,000 round belt feed backpack magazines.

[@Range23]

I may well have overlooked this fact 😂👍🏻

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Can you imagine having one

[@mattwhaley100]

This guy is a complete waste of time..hacks his guns up and hangs weights off the end and is a terrible shot sorry for the bad review but true.

[@TheLoneRanger745]

A years ago I was thinking about a conversion kit for my AR-15 to make it shoot 22lr.. After two months of reviewing all the options which ALL had problems. I found Tippmann Arms AR-M422 Pro elite all metal construction EXACT match to my AR-15 . At the time I called my local shops and got very lucky and found One at $559.00. This rifle is super high quality, not one problem in +/- 500rds, My indoor range is only 25 yrds, I had a Holosun 403r and the Holosun 3X magnifier , I'm getting nickel size groups at the bench , I'm very happy with this outstanding Tippmann Arms AR-M422. I looked up their website a couple of months ago and that exact model wasn't listed anymore, they only had Pistol length models shown , I'm so glad I got the 16"barrel M4 model , this was the best rifle on the market no comparison to S&W , Ruger , H&K , CMMG Kits . I've only run CCI mag's 1235fps.copper coated round nose, I think copper coated ammo is cleaner for the barrel and hotter loads help proper cycling . Also true for the Taurus TX-22 hand gun. My barrel barely has any lands&groves so key holing can and has happened, the bullet's not spinning for stable flight . That's never happen with my Tippmann Arms AR-M422 rifle. Happy target practicing Buddy 🤠

[@Range23]

I’ve heard good things about the tippmann rifle, seems it’s one of the best ‘off the shelf’ 22 AR’s out there, glad you like yours 👍🏻

[@joshmajor8662]

The reason MOST avoid tippman is the insanely expensive mags 😂

[@adrianpozos3498]

What kind of m&p 15-22 magazine is that?

[@Range23]

It’s a custom one I made, they’re called PCM mags

[@ta1ntv1lle39]

fatal flaw? hardly... 100% user induced flaws

[@1958bytor]

Who puts weight on the end of their gun?

[@asgrimpews]

Surprising that it affects POI that much, even though its free-floated! Good to know that tbh, thanks.

[@Range23]

Stay tuned for more useless information like this 😉

[@asgrimpews]

@@Range23 nah not useless, that's good info Bob!

[@davidsmyth5770]

I agree with @cookedaz. I honestly think this test was deliberately designed to make the 15-22 worse. I found mine extremally accurate. My mods, a few internal springs due to wear. A Timney trigger, 7 inch barrel guard and a Magpul stock, and it's the rifle to beat in our computations. It weighs half of my AR-9's with the same configurations. I have given advise to many sport shooters to use the 15-22 for local matches and one of us almost always wins. Rarely does a Ruger or other 22 LR win anything. Nice, light, and easy to use for the local match level, plus, standard AR parts fit! MSgt David R. Smyth, USAF, Ret.

[@beckwithwoohoo]

Why would you shoot thumbs up with a pistol grip rifle ?

[@Range23]

To show everyone I’m doing ok 👍🏻

[@beckwithwoohoo]

@@Range23 lol you win that round 😀

[@Jagivar]

that world's best tripod sure move a lot

[@larrywalden626]

Is he saying Wear on the barrel? Or did he mean Weight on the barrel?

[@rexroscoeroggaschjr7530]

Design wasn’t “floating barrel” So your “design” effects pattern. A real test would be same but floating barrel vs non-floating barrel

[@Range23]

A lot of people say the same. It’s something I’ll get around to doing a video on in the future. It will show that this setup with the floating barrel is less effected that the non floating barrel.

[@lilanimal42o]

Hanging a weight on a cheap (but effective and affordable) plastic framed gun so the barrel droops seems more like user error. I have one just upgrade the extractor to a volquartsen and go crazy i got easily 6,000+ rounds though mine

[@lokichoki_]

Try putting the handguard cap back on and try again, free float is generally better but not necessarily what your rifle wants or needs, from one barrel to another they all have different personalities

[@Range23]

I want to redo this video in the future, and that’s something I want to test. This one was a bit of an impromptu vid

[@lokichoki_]

I feel ya, I've noticed non user serviceable handguard which keeping the blued barrel rust free is a hassle and cleaning carbon near the chamber inside the plastic receiver is beyond difficult due to the material. That said I Fkin love the rifle

[@herknorth8691]

I wish a metal upper was available as an option. I keep having weird zeroing issues with mine. I dial it in and then next time it's hitting somewhere else. I'm at the point where I just want to switch to a different gun.

[@liamhernandez9329]

I think the main problem with that got is you took it from a 16 inch barrel to a 12 inch barrel?

[@Range23]

Nah, the barrel length on these doesn’t make a difference for this test.

[@martingomez3873]

The fact that you state that shortening the barrel doesn’t change accuracy, makes me wonder why on earth are you able to run a video regarding firearms on KZbin. (Your groups with both also kind of show the overall lack of skill)

[@AlwaysAiming]

THIS VIDEO IS NOT ABOUT A MECHANICAL FLAW .... THE 15-22 is a great gun. If your a plinkster or hunter then this video is to MAKE YOU AWARE of some adjustments you MAY need to make for long distance shots.

[@onewayirvin2666]

Where u get them clips for the 22 from

[@Range23]

It’s unforgivable that you called them ‘clips’, but I make them myself, they’re called ‘PCM’ Magazines

[@DeniseStevens1203]

Ok guys, so what we learned here is dont hang your manbags off the end of your barrel 😂😂 Mmmm! Okay i will have to concede im puzzled...

[@joshbrightenterprises1789]

Well now i know if i hang a dumbell off the front of the rail it will need to be rezeroed...not sure why that matters but great info!😂

[@colinarmstrong1892]

Yes the standard handguard sucks, we know that it's why we change them for carbon fibre ones. I get no impact point change between bipod and handheld since getting rid of the standard one.

[@Range23]

It’s not great, but it’s more the receiver than the handguard causing it. To be fair, this was a bit of an extreme test just to demonstrate the point. I’d like to give it a go again with a stiffer handguard, just to see what happens.

[@Second_Opinion_2]

Well isn't this just great!? I am a United States defense contractor and we were planning on moving to plastic .22lr rifles with weighted bags hanging on the barrels. I guess now I have to call Smith & Wesson, the murse factory and the weight supplier and cancel that order for 400,000 units

[@ckilo11]

The only problem I have with my S&W M&P 15-22 is: it doesn't like subsonic ammunition. Mine will jam every time. Currently using high velocity copper coated hollow points and it runs like a sewing machine. I'm getting about 75 rounds before I have to readjust my scope. Overall I'm shooting at 99.7% accuracy with that rifle and the heavy as f*** 16 power day/night scope on it. I swear that the scope is almost as heavy as the riffle, and it doesn't get any lighter in the middle of the night. I used to use a Ruger 10/22 for my pest control needs but I changed to the S&W M&P 15-22. After about 10,000 rounds... No problems except the failure to feed and eject subsonic rounds and silencer rounds. In my opinion this failure has nothing to do with the riffle. The rounds just don't have enough powder to make the bolt cycle fully.

[@perrywilliams2484]

I'm sorry, I don't understand the point! It's a knockoff. That's what it is. If it were meant to be compared to an AR-15 in performance they wouldn't charge $400 to $500! A young person, A person that doesn't shoot. Person that's new to shooting. A person that's a veteran shooter, but wants to pretend that he has the AR-15. But regardless. No one stands around with satchels hanging off the end of their Barrel or people hanging on it and swinging! Pick it up, Aim and shoot! I can take those results and turn them around just the opposite. Case in point. Instead of looking at the group that you made when you had a bag hanging off the end of the barrel. How about looking at the group when you didn't have a bag hanging on the end of the barrel. It shot almost as well as an AR-15. How about that!!!

[@raywright998]

This( Mate.) Is azzhole idk. Ya know some people ya jus find annoying well mate here isnt much a marks men as But yet he's got a lot of petty shit to bla around lol talking all technical about it as though it's to be compared to a AR or something 😂

[@joshmajor8662]

Haha 😂 to be honest man, this is just stupid and beyond unrealistic!! Why would you EVER have weight like that up there?? 🤷‍♂️ mine is amazing!! I’m not letting alittle kid hang off mine tho while I shoot haha 😂

[@EmzyT0]

Yikes that must be one hell of a hurricane! Clearly hobbling around on crutches for years has made my arms better than tripods/rests, because I quickly advanced out of bullseye aim, moving up to squirrels eye precision 😂

[@PensacolaHouseHunter]

I had a CMMG conversion BCG in an AR, extremely inaccurate, the 15-22 even with a short barrel (pistol) is extremely accurate for what it is.

[@nimzzor]

Ive got the SBR version that I converted to a rifle due to jus not being able to find the rifle at the time. Thing jams constantly. Rarely able to just burn through a mag.

[@Range23]

That’s not good, I’ve seen a few of these with the occasional issue, but they’re usually pretty reliable little guns out the box

[@itsmeyaboy...6322]

Is it not extracting or ejecting properly? I got a volquartsen extractor and it solved all issues

[@Levi-g8t]

so the weight bends the barrel?

[@Range23]

It pulls down on the handguard, which in turn causes the barrel to drop as everything is held together by the plastic receiver. Not a massive issue 90% of the time. Just something to be aware of if shooting over distance or off supports.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Right ... everything you mount to that handguard will weigh DOWN that barrel which will throw off your shot on the other end.

[@arturo752]

Not a good comparison. Rimfire vs centerfire

[@Range23]

They’re both rimfires lol

[@SwabJockeyJim]

I enjoyed this video, quite a lot! Thanks.

[@Range23]

A man of culture I see 😂

[@SwabJockeyJim]

@@Range23 I’m impressed by firearm engineering. I started shooting in 1969, when my dad tried to impress upon me, that guns are not toys. He did the old, “let the shotgun knock him on his butt,” routine. I had no desire to shoot guns, but his plan backfired! That day has cost me untold thousands of dollars!

[@SwabJockeyJim]

I visited Halifax, Nova Scotia, where I visited a sporting goods store. They had 2 shotguns, a Browning double barrel, and a beautiful automatic, the likes of which I had never seen before. I asked to hold it, but evidently, I needed a note from God, signed off by the Queen, may she rest in peace.

[@TheGeneral75746]

I appreciate this video - this isn't something I'd even considered about my own 15-22. I, too, have both a 15-22 and a "Mil-Spec" gun with a CMMG conversion kit installed. I have to say, the POI issue notwithstanding, my 15-22 is noticeably more accurate than my rifle with the CMMG 22lr bolt and barrel. It may suffer from POI shift issues, but I'm happy with that trade off for it's insanely light weight. There have been a number of female shooters I've taken out for their first time who struggle to hold up heavier, all-metal guns but find that one to be very pleasant.

[@Range23]

Agreed, they are certainly a good introduction for new and young shooters

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

10:00 If that was a person's chest, you got him with every shot from 225 ft ....

[@alexharry285]

u dunno man i have both the pistol version and rifle my pistol gets abused bouncing around and dusty in my rzr door bag and that thing is spot on with a cheap CT red dot holds zero and fires spot on every time my 16” has free float and misfired like crazy until i upgraded the extractor and use the cci ammo that thing is spot on 1-8 leupold i’ve never had this problem

[@ecodeacon1]

#1 - The S&W 15-22 has a problem with the Barrel nut coming loose. S&W sells a barrel nut tool that slides over the lenght of the barrel for proper tightening but one has to be careful not to over-torque and comprimising the threads. Your demonstration of the flex indicates a loose barrel nut.

[@Range23]

Nothing loose on the rifle my man, this is just the nature of a polymer upper receiver, you could take any 15-22 and the results would be the same.

[@GLOCKBASOUP]

This video is proof the British shouldn't own firearms. Cheers!

[@Range23]

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