The WORST Type of Love Interest Pt.2

[@daultonl.608]

The true worst love interest, the writers. Because clearly something’s up with them.

[@superherochestsymbol1032]

The one thing I understand is in writing, when it comes to secret identities and relationships, you don’t want it to be one note and boring, what I don’t understand is why they have to make it a melodramatic soap opera every time, again I get they want stakes and conflict cause it’s a great way for development but usually they drag it out and get it all wrong and forget that humans communicate for a reason, and honestly I’m the kind of person who doesn’t care if it’s one note and boring, all my favorite characters have to suffer constantly in some way every single issue, I just want them to permanently be happy for Christ sake lol

[@PVMAS07]

EXACTLY, a fictional character is trash because the writer made them like this

[@gryffindorftw6198]

@@superherochestsymbol1032At the very least, a writer should give a couple a struggle they can work through together instead of constantly giving them one that tears them apart over and over again.

[@catspaw3092]

IKR? Give the couple something to work with so they can resolve their issues together not have them jump into bed with another person to either make themselves feel better or to get back at their partner. Because that never goes well now you don't want touch your partner after that & these writers now are off the chain.

[@gryffindorftw6198]

@@catspaw3092 I’m convinced most writers don’t have the emotional maturity to write a healthy relationship and keep it interesting.

[@JayceS.-vm6zz]

In nightwing's current run, he has been really faithful and genuinely a good boyfriend. Probably because he finally has a good writer.

[@pettybee3860]

I wish he was with Starfire though

[@liampatterson2946]

​@@pettybee3860 yeah I never really liked the nightwingxbatgirl just couldn't get behind it

[@Tkclupz]

@@liampatterson2946yeah and in this comic run Dick and Babs relationship just feels really forced.

[@ManOfX305]

@@pettybee3860 Starfire slept with one of his best friends and brothers in canon

[@rachetmarvel931]

​@ManOfX305 That was in new 52,and they weren't together then.

[@deandredukes95]

Nightwing was unforgivably foul for inviting his ex to his wedding after having sex with her

[@amigodavizinhanca7562]

And she was in a wheelchair, don't forget that

[@ginza_animatex4083]

Did starfire ever find out about them?

[@johnnyhall9154]

Bro forgot that shit happened. He really couldn't keep it in his pants.

[@fableshearth2457]

The absolute devilry of cheating in your fiance with your ex and then inviting her to the wedding made me think they were going to reveal he was some kind of fake. I thought there was no way Dick would do that.

[@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω]

It's their human writers Fault

[@marcelder7723]

"batman needs to beat his ass" BATMAN AINT NO BETTER

[@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf]

My thoughts exactly. That’s who Dick learned it from 💀

[@mcgclock]

Batman ain't no better? Now, listen here boy. When they made Batman hook up with Batgirl, everyone gave him shit, and rightfully so. Sure, they're both adults but Bruce knew Barbara when she was still a teen and they're more like uncle and niece. But guess what? The same happened with Nightwing. Catwoman and Zatanna are very close friends of Bruce and they probably met Dick when was still a teen, so they'd be like his aunt, but when DC makes them hook up with Dick, y'al cheer for it. Hell, y'all want more of it. I ain't supporting Batman x Batgirl ship, but this is just hypocritical. Hell, the DC wiki says he even hooked up with Talia. Bro's over here fucking his surrogate dad's exs.

[@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf]

@@mcgclock Ok and? We’re saying both are terrible.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

​@@mcgclock who's "y'all."

[@CLDJ227]

I thought the exact same thing 🤣🤣.

[@hadouradiance3566]

Bro, Jean getting angry at Scott cheating on her RIGHT AFTER CHEATING ON HIM WITH WOLVERINE made me so irrationality angry in X-Men 97.

[@Whitestone2785]

Yeah that made me very angry, and it made me lose all respect for her.

[@samflood5631]

What about Rogue screwing around with Magneto behind Gambit’s back?

[@Whitestone2785]

@samflood5631 Well, yes, that is not my rogue.

[@catastrophically.in.denial]

Nightwing just needs better people writing him, he’s a great character but I never thought of him as a playboy. In my eyes it was always him with Starfire, but the writers made him be a player and I hate seeing that happen to a beloved character.

[@dafilmqueen556]

We should fire them then. I might go for choosing some of pf his more obscure love interests Shawn Tsang or Bea Bennett or Cheyenne Freemont as my DC universe Nightwing’s OTP, but yeah, Starfire is my girl for him all the way through..

[@catastrophically.in.denial]

@@dafilmqueen556 yeah, and why him with Batgirl, that’s one I’ve never gotten why they did it.

[@Yippeeeeeeeree]

It’s because he was constantly over-sexualized by self-insert writers; I’m pretty sure he got SA’d TWICE in the comics before and then everyone kinda forgot abt it

[@graysonsk4448]

No literally but also Starfire wasn't that great either, especially after she slutshamed him after he got SA'd, and the same with Babara.

[@aquashuriken1634]

Feels like writers keep wanting to destroy starfire, with 'I hate starfire' also existing. Teen titans and the dcau movies had the best versions.

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

Scott is the worst of this list. The way he abandoned Madeline in the comics while she was pregnant was the downfall of his character

[@shannonrichardson5129]

I think the writers redeemed his character a bit in X-Men97.

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

@@shannonrichardson5129 I still haven't fully watched, but some of the scenes made me actually appreciate Scott for the first time

[@almessasorrow4950]

​@@GiovanniAlckmimRusso..... She's in the show. Not as bad as The comics tho since he didn't know.

[@giosbizarreart9048]

@@shannonrichardson5129his character was good for years in the comics

[@cesar6447]

He was done dirty

[@witchdoctorndz8786]

I think you're one of the first people I've really heard point out how messed up it was for Cap to leave Bucky in the future while he goes back for a woman who may have moved on. Anyway, yeah a lot of these characters do tend to be questionable in their pursuits.

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

I lowkey need him to actually bear the consequences of his actions. Nah, when he travelled back in time, Peggy should've been married to a whole other fellow and had kids with him.

[@ablah949]

@@oreochocolate_lavacake9960 Also the timeline didn't even work. He went back to the 60s, but apparently she was still a young 20 year old? Twenty years after the end of World War II?

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

@@ablah949 Yeah for real

[@SirCruxful]

@@ablah949was that the 60s? I thought the whole thing was after he gets back from the iceberg he was going to go to the dance, and that was the dance

[@ablah949]

@@SirCruxful Yeah, that's one way to calculate it, but see here's the problem... 1. he couldn't change era without the machine, meaning he went to one date (40s or 60s) and stayed there 2. Tony Stark was being born that year, his dad mentioned it, which puts into question just how old both Tony and his dad were... is Stark Sr a 50 year old who looks 30, or is Tony 70? 3. He collected the stones during a peaceful time, it's implied after the war, maybe th 60s or 70s, but if so how did he meet up with Peggy again?? Conclusion: this shit makes no sense, time travel stories are hard. My sister theorised the only way it could make sense is if there was a second mysterious Stark generation, born soon after the war who is Tony's actual dad.

[@Young_pk-p]

Tony not even being mentioned is wild

[@PESKY4]

DUDE THANK YOU I was like “so we’re bringing up cap but completely side-lining the literal self described playboy?? Ok”

[@alvinputra3099]

Comic Tony is ass yeah, but MCU Tony is fine, he didn't goes after any girls nor cheat when him and Pepper got together, maybe if you count a few flirt with Aunt May in Civil War but he was waiting for Peter and he needs to make excuses to May anyway to let Peter join him in Germany.

[@Jeicemeiser]

MCU Tony is actually shockingly faithful. Has playboy moments in the first and second movie, but leaves them way behind as a part of his character growth into a hero

[@camerapasteurize7215]

Steve abandoning Bucky to go back in time to be with Peggy was such a heartless move. This is your best friend. You have saved each other's lives multiple times, become criminals to help each other, and you're both men out of their time. Pretty much the only ones who can really understand each other. Bucky has also been tortured and brainwashed for decades, constantly being abused and not having anything close to the chance to ease into modern life like Steve did. And then, the first chance he gets, Steve just abandons his friend. His best friend, who has been with him through thick and thin, to go be with a woman he hadn't even begun an official relationship with yet before he went into the ice.

[@pinkiys]

YESSS I don't think I will ever be not mad when thinking about how their story ended. Bucky and Steve deserved so much more, I'm so upset that Marvel made THIS. Honestly, if they really needed to make Buckys' story to go on without him, Steve dying would be a more logical outcome 'cause then at least he wouldn't be consciously leaving his best friends behind

[@asshat8892]

I think it’s mostly because Disney had plans with Bucky as the winter soldier in their new series. Because you can not tell me that MCU Steve, the man who is so damn obsessed with his friend that it borders on bisexuality, would not think to himself “I want Bucky to be with me in the past as well” there’s no fucking way he wouldn’t think of that. No way in hell! The ONLY he didn’t do it, is because Disney got in the way and was like “now hold on… hold on…”

[@MistaGify]

I’m a month late to this comment, but I’ll still say it: Steve’s decision was not only the right way to end his arc but true to life. Just look at the US Army. You serve for years and years in shitty places like Iraq and Afghanistan. You live and fight together for so long. In the end, you don’t even win the damn war, you’d be lucky if everyone makes it to the end with body and mind intact! Then… what happens at home? Time to go back to your civilian family and friends, who will NEVER understand what you went through. Those who did, they too go back to wherever home is across the US, you may never see each other again except on Zoom. Steve’s life with Peggy was PERFECT, exactly what other WW2 vets got to do. Yes, it sucks Bucky was left in the present, but it’s no different from soldiers parting ways in real-life except for the time travel.

[@pinkiys]

@@MistaGify it is different though, they weren't just colleagues. Steve didn't even meet Bucky in the army (he did meet Peggy there though), they were best friends since childhood, Bucky took care of Steve when they were just two kids in Brooklyn. Their arcs often consists of saving each other, big parts of their characters are build on their bond (especially for Bucky). And in the end they understood each other better then anyone else ever would, like the commemts above said, at that point in the story they had been through a lot together and with everything we were shown Steve's decision seemed very illogical. Not trying to start an argument, just saying why I think it was a bad ending for them.

[@SlayzorHunter]

There is an exception to the Logan-Scott-Jean love triangle. In X-Men Evolution, Wolverine is more of a father figure to Scott, and he is not interested in Jean.

[@justinbradford29]

One of the reasons why I love Xmen Evolution.

[@tarabletv]

Best version fr

[@TheHardcoreGamer1]

Thank god for alternate versions of these characters

[@jackantaya7700]

Also in current comics all three of them are together

[@MerSorax2007]

Bad love interests: 1. Gold Diggers 2. Black Widows 3. Man-child 4. Rage-aholics

[@resentfuldragon]

5) Paul He gets his own category for that level of trolling to spider-man

[@VyctoriaBrooks]

Rage is less worst than gold digging? Wild list

[@AedanTheGrey]

​@@VyctoriaBrooksi smell misogyny from that list tbh

[@teal_m_101]

I feel like with heroic superheroes, adding infidelity is such a tasteless move. For quite a lot of people, including myself, we see ourselves in these heroes, and they inspire us to do better, to be better. And sure, superheroes have flaws or weaknesses or doubts, but it's about pushing through and reconciling these moments of weakness that touches the hearts of so many people. Making a golden boy character a doghouse who bangs multiple love interests without any of them knowing ruins their character because infidelity is a pretty awful thing to do. It's an active decision to take advantage of someone's trust, and that's not what a hero should do. That's not what a good person should do. It just makes them seem like a sleaze. Of course, you can write a character who has multiple sexual partners, or cheats on people, well. But if you want that character to be a heroic figure, it's going to be dissonant.

[@jin_stix.a8679]

100% agree

[@davidakin3840]

w thats why superman spidey and cyclops should never cheat

[@TheAMVDorf]

I feel like with certain characters it works though, like Tony Stark is a self described “playboy” so ofc he’s gonna cheat, but seeing him improve as a person is part of his character

[@aquashuriken1634]

​@@davidakin3840that's why all heroes should never cheat. Only works if it's a flaw they overcome, not something glamorized.

[@TrueReverse74]

All batman is gonna say is "do as I say, not as I do" he's worse than nightwing. Nightwing is a fine boyfriend, just gets completely hoed by inconsistent writers when he should have been with starfire and have that be the end of it.

[@anaemiliaalmeida7238]

Thank you!!!!

[@thekicker2517]

Batman doesn't really date anyone. Most of his sexual encounters are one time flings, and when they aren't he's pretty faithful.

[@firestrikerii810]

He is not worst than nightwing

[@firestrikerii810]

No

[@MelissaBlake-u7v]

Yeah cheating with ur ex having sex with her then inviting her to ur wedding bravo what a good bf frl👏👏👏👏👏

[@nightwing1491]

Hello I'm a fan of Nightwing and what I will say is that originally Nightwing and Starfire were supposed to get married a while back ,and they were supposed to be like DC's Spider-Man and Mary Jane Watson but they thought that Nightwing should get a solo comic issue series which is cool to me but as you thought later down the like someone just had to fuck up Nightwing as a character and that person was Devin Grayson.

[@huntertezz]

Atleast Nightwing is doing great now. Had a rough couple of years durring Didio's reign but he made it. Can't say the same for Spiderman.

[@theseven5359]

I heard the break up was because the people who were writing Batman comics were feeling like Nightwing was getting to distant from the Batman property but who knows what really happen

[@nightwing1491]

@@huntertezz I mean there are some things about the current Nightwing run that I like but the other stuff not so much.

[@LegendaryOverfiend]

Considering your username I don’t think you have to say your a nightwing fan

[@huntertezz]

@@nightwing1491 Same, personally I find the the rum boring now. Hopefully next run will have a good story. I am hoping James Gordan Jr will be the villain.

[@teeemtee5739]

Nah bruh, Nightwing is my fave so i gotta clear some stuff up. Notice how all the panels you used as examples was from '85-2010? Dick was written like that back in the day because he was over sexualized and used as a self insert for the writer's fantasies. The same reason he kept getting sexually assaulted and even raped. Look up Devon Grayson for more on that, I'm not exaggerating. But like you said, it's not within his character to even do that type of shit. In modern comics, he's with Barbara. That's it. No cheating, no other love interests. My boy will not be slandered and victim blamed for the actions of crazy fangirls.

[@pettybee3860]

I really wish he was with Starfire though

[@teeemtee5739]

@pettybee3860 Kory>Babs. Hot Take, I think Dick should end up with Donna Troy. The basis for that relationship has been building for decades. That's just me tho. Anyone would be better than Barbara, no hate to her I just find her boring, like MJ for Peter.

[@Tkclupz]

@@teeemtee5739Yeah tbh Babs is just a very bland character I personally see Donna as a best friend or more like sister for Dick but after all anything is better than Babs

[@ManOfX305]

@@Tkclupz Barbara is not bland 💀

[@Tkclupz]

@@ManOfX305 In my opinion her character is she always listens to Batman and the most interesting thing that has happened to her character is what happens with joker tbh

[@mileyscool97]

Shoutout to that Bucky part. The Sharon thing was one thing, I hated that. If they were gonna commit to it like in the comics then do it but it felt so weird in the movie. But to leave Bucky there when he was clearly struggling and went through all his stuff, for Peggy…I still hate it. People never respond well when I mention it but it was real weird to me idk man. Glad he’s happy ig

[@KrSwag51]

Grayson do be hanging with Bruce alot haha and I'm surprised you didn't mention Matt Freaking Murdock hahah

[@king_pigeon]

Exactly. Matt is the biggest manwhore in comics. And this is coming from a huge fan

[@wesleygriffiths8748]

FACTS. That dude has NEVER been able to keep it in his pants. Like the time he cheated on his blind wife with a girl from his office. Absolute harlotry

[@aquashuriken1634]

DD really isn't supposed to be like that tho, another case of character assassination.

[@CrusaderWebhead3962]

Nah you did my boy dirty. Nightwing ain't bad, bro just miraculously pulls all around 10's 😭🙏

[@aquashuriken1634]

Ye it really is just weird writers being freaky with him that ruins him.

[@CrusaderWebhead3962]

@@aquashuriken1634 Nah bro deserves at least one 10 when bro is arguably a better hero than Batman.

[@pettybee3860]

I hate what they did to Starfire in the recent comics. Nightwing was supposed to marry Starfire. I can't deal with him being with Batgirl. I'm sorry

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

To me Nightwing dating batgirl just feels too inner-involved within the bat-family.

[@Tkclupz]

@@anotherrandomguy8871yeah when she’s around that means he’s always going to end up in Gotham again and working for Batman

[@huntertezz]

Its not really recent. Imo Starfire just doesn't fit with Nightwing's setting anymore. It only worked back when Nightwing was exclusively a Titan but now he is established himself as a solo hero with a more grounded setting. Oracle is just a versatile character due to her role hence why she has become his most prominent love interest.

[@huntertezz]

@@Tkclupz He is always going to end up in Gotham either way. That's his home and where his family is. He always gonna be willing to help out.

[@Tkclupz]

@@huntertezz But when Babs is there he’s going to be there constantly and it doesn’t make him feel as you said an “established solo hero”

[@TrufanNW]

Wym Batman needs to beat Knightwing's ass. He just as guilty lol.

[@abiodunsulaiman2297]

I mean i don't remember bat banging Talia when he and Catwoman were supposed to get married.

[@Tkclupz]

I know let’s not get started with what he did to Batgirl 😭

[@huntertezz]

@@Tkclupz can we just forget that cursed nonsense. Never happened in the comics, its just a cursed pairing that exists only in the cartoon because one guy ships it.

[@Tkclupz]

@@huntertezz it happened and it scarred many people just because it makes your favorite ship look bad doesn’t mean it still didn’t happen

[@huntertezz]

@@Tkclupz It happened in the cartoon not in the comics. Yet people still try to bring it up even when discussing the comic version as if its canon to it. My mindset is all cursed pairings like Wanda and Pietro, Damian x Mari and a bunch more should be forgotten.

[@maxordman4100]

I’m always thankful for X-men Evolution which showed us a great way to write Wolverine stories while making sure that he was no longer fixated on Jean Grey. I wish we could get another version of him like that. He also has lots of other great romantic matches in the comics.

[@StutiSantosh]

I'm a Nightwing fan, and ik ppl think he's a cheater, but it was the writers who messed him up. They mess everything up, then erase it from DC and pretend like it never happened. Also most of the time he has different girls in different universes, BUT sometimes the writers want to stir some drama up and start some beef between Kory and Babs. In the end, He's faithful, it's just that the writers mess up, then erase there mistakes by saying it was in another comic universe.

[@comicfan1324]

I hope part two has Hawkeyes comic book love life. I swear the MCU version of the character is the only one that can keep a relationship long-term

[@callmejacob3234]

Nightwing got his rizz from Batman. That's why Nightwing is Batman's greatest success.

[@CYCLOPS1994]

Cyclops cheating? Jean Gray cheated on him with every man that appeared in front of her

[@laurarowen6053]

I really don't know about the others, but with Nightwing, I will defend him to the bitter end, because it really was bad writing. When they switched writers in like the 90s, they switched the ship from him with Starfire to him with Barbara. And to do this they had to retcon a lot and make it seem like Dick was never really in love with Kory (but he totally was, dude was stupid in love) and so to make the relationship seem less genuine or to prove that it's really Barbara he's supposed to be with, they had him cheat. Which by the way, does not fit with his character. Dude was big into monogamy, like, it took him a little while to get used the idea of Starfire being married even though it was a loveless marriage. Also, Dick's generally seen as very loyal, and one of the more emotionally available Bats.

[@melanieolivarez4533]

I hate when they make a likable character purposely do unlikeaboe things 😭😭😭 it’s all up to the writers

[@justinorji6479]

The Reed Richards, Sue Storm, and Namor love triangle honestly deserves its own video in this series 💀

[@catspaw3092]

Namor flat out admits he'll take Sue from Reed I'm like "Dude go find your own chick stop chasing women who are already taken have some class & self respect. Your an arrogant prick you think Sue would want a man like that? Hell no!"

[@supermrmainman]

Ultimate Ant man was such a bad husband that Captain America dropped a construction site on him.

[@WinterRabbit1]

Nightwing cheating and then turning around to invite Babs to his wedding was character assassination. It was so out of left field. He’s a staunch monogamist. Cheating just doesn’t fit that. And I’ll never forgive Devin Grayson for how much got screwed up with Nightwings character during her run. Though, as much as Dick and Starfire were my first real ship, I always preferred him with Barbara. I absolutely HATED how hard they pushed her being into Bruce in BTaS. Especially when it always came off a little creepy to me. They never wrote Bruce being more than uncomfortable with her advances enough for me to believe they Could ever get together. Meanwhile, her relationship with Dick only deteriorated because he felt the need to get away from Bruce. (Also, I have a big problem with writers making their female characters literally step in between existing family relationships. Like, Babs should not have been trying to get with her ex’s dad. And n52 Starfire had no business sleeping with her ex’s little brother. Just because both those relationships were on the outs at the time, doesn’t make it any better. Those are relationships that they have No business getting involved with. It made Barbara look immature and Kory uncaring and selfish.)

[@aquashuriken1634]

Thank you

[@jazzyjswift]

How the F Nightwing can score a baddie like Starfire and repeatedly look elsewhere is a testament to how shitty of a father Bruce Wayne really was.

[@ItsYaBoiV]

Scott was the victim of bad writers tho, he was great for years and the victim of a "me me me" when Jean went through her Phoenix arc. They've also made it canon apparently that he's turned on by dangerous women, and by dangerous it seems they meant he's in danger of getting mind-effed when he cheats. 😂

[@ULTIMATZEKROM]

The fact that Nightwing cheats on STARFIRE just baffles me. Like bro has ALREADY won, and still wants more.

[@fancymuss.2601]

What is even more hilarious about Rogue is that when she holds Gambit and says "I can't feel you" is that yes, obviously because you're sucking the last bit of life out of him to maybe survive

[@ajaylouw6604]

In defence for Cyclops...jean was for the streets first and kept giving him shit for getting mad. Since bad writers are basically the norm with comics, I'm gonna say it: She had it coming.

[@chadlewis5379]

Eh, no, you can't put MCU Steve Rogers in the cheaters category. Peggy is dead by the time he even considers Sharon as a love interest, and after he kisses her, they verbally acknowledge the timing is wrong, and there is no indication that they had a relationship after that moment. In fact, the Falcon and Winter Soldier series confirmed that they never saw each other again after that kiss. So Steve was perpetually single from the time he entered the modern day to the time he went back to Peggy - something he hadn't even considered an option until after Tony invented time travel IN THAT SAME MOVIE. Is it a bit weird that he made a move on Peggy's grand niece? Yeah, it is. Is he a cheater? Hell no.

[@officercat7907]

Yeah it’s funny the dude mentions that when, during the preparation stages of D-Day in 1944, Britain had a wave of illegitimate births from British women shacking up with American GIs whilst their husbands were away at war. It’s talked about heavily in this one D-Day documentary I can’t remember the name of, but the narrator says “God bless British girls” as a cheeky little joke after he states what happened. That is like far worse imo. Imagine coming back from some of the worst fighting in North Africa or being a survivor at Dunkirk just to see your woman give birth to another man’s bastard. Heart breaking. It’s especially prevalent here in the States in big budget war films like Jarhead for example.

[@leonardfabian8942]

Well said also even if he did kiss sharon when Peggy was alive Peggy was old and had dementia what was Steve supposed to do.

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

​@@officercat7907Didn't soldiers do the same thing by hooking up with women, too?

[@heckker]

Exactly, is he supposed to treat everyone like kids because he skipped 70 yrs

[@LettiKiss]

THIS!

[@theflashfan3234]

Batman can't beat Nightwing's ass for cheating lmao. He wrote the foreword for his book on it.

[@bemiatto67]

Fr, like where do you think Dick got it from 😂

[@Polyeurythane]

What’s even worse about Captain America in the movies is that he had a whole arc about accepting what happened and that Peggy moved on, then moved on himself (or at least started the process by letting go). Then they go and retcon everything by making that man obsessed with Peggy again out of nowhere and then letting him go back in time. Mind you, Peggy originally moved on from Steve and had a whole family with one of Steve’s squad mates. By going back in time, Steve essentially murdered an entire bloodline of people. I’m still forever mad at that. They ruined an important aspect of Steve, as well as a really good message, just to pat themselves on the back for giving Steve some cheeks to clap.

[@gryffindorftw6198]

Captain America was also technically a home wrecker by the end of his arc in the MCU.

[@OuterSpace90]

The edits are golden 😂

[@north3689]

Nah Nightwing cheating was so out of character;DC just wanted him and Star to break up so Nightwing would go back to Gotham cause they got mad he was more popular as a Titan then a Batfam member

[@OuterSpace90]

Keep these going dude. I subscribed because of the love interest video

[@Morbee0]

This is officially my favourite channel on KZbin

[@loismae73]

Dicks love life in the titans show was painful to watch

[@R3dmc7]

The nightwing thing is actually wild Stan red hood

[@WilliamKing-bw9br]

Jean was never innocent.Her attraction to logan was the beginning of all their problems,as a couple.😐😐😐

[@catspaw3092]

She sure wasn't the moment she took interest in Logan & Logan in her Scott should've kicked her butt to the curb "Oh, this is what you like ok, when he's done with you don't come crawling back to me." If Mariko was still alive Logan wouldn't even look at Jean then I recently learned Logan tried getting with Spider-Man's wife MJ. I was like "Are these writers f@cked in the head? Why would you do tnat?"

[@Kathary_xX]

X-men 97' Scott I can SLIGHTLY forgive mainly for the fact that not only did Jean like- kiss Logan minutes before Scott kissed Madelyn but also Madelyn had been Scotts wife/Jean long enough to have his kid meaning he's gonna hold love for the woman who literally had his son even if he's with Jean now, because he thought that was his whole ass wife for SO LONG to the point where they don't know when the switched happened and Jean and Madelyn don't know who's memories are who's. But I can't defend Comic Scotts actions.

[@vinmulf171]

Seeing you talk about Cap, i was like... oh boy! Have you seen how their relationship goes in comic 😂😂😂

[@seamoon3265]

the joker not being here is absolutely insane 😭🙏

[@jackhanver1420]

Batman: Dick, I heard what you did with Catwoman!!! Want to explain?! Nightwing: Sure, after you explain what _you_ did with *Batgirl!!!* Batman:... Good talk.

[@michaelharmon8960]

Jason Todd when he tried to get with starfire while she had amnesia and literally put him in a knightwing costume and never mentioned that the reason she was attracted to him was cuz she dated his older brother

[@lorenzoditrolio6680]

Don’t forget when a writer decides to, for lord knows what reason, to have the character get with a child in some fashion

[@ricardomilos3872]

Bruh we can't talk about the horndog character trope without talking about both Susan Storm who has a larger roster than the entire Marvel vs capcom franchise and ofc her stupid brother who literally prevented Doom from becoming a good guy cuz he couldn't resist clapping his fiancee's cheeks the night before the wedding, at least with Dick Grayson he's always the one to make the 2nd step ( also let's not forget about new 52 starfire )

[@davidakin3840]

bro bro i wanna know what sue did. susan seemed to be so lovely and faithful you gatta tell me

[@celestialsoldier622]

@@davidakin3840 She did nothing. The writers put her in situations where she could cheat or a man flirting with her but she never does.

[@davidakin3840]

@@celestialsoldier622 w w w w top tier girls be mj (pre 2005) susan richards and lois lane fr fr

[@anabia8761]

I think Cap is the only one that can get a pass because he was not in a relationship with any of these women, he took a kiss from two and then went back in time to re-live with his first crush (I know it's thin ice but circumstances were chaotic for this man's love life). As for Scott and Nightwing, no excuses. Wolverine...is weird...because again he's not committed to anyone but he's definitely eating whatever falls on his plate (literally I think he kissed Hercules at some point 🤔) Anyone who doesn't balance well their life's relationships (family, friends, work) is not ready to date/marry. Reed Richards and Susan Storm were very bad for each other in the movies (idk how their relationship is in the comics)

[@dustedjotaro3078]

Shout out to Jason for trying to bag Artemis

[@maysun3752]

Than they broke them up to try to make him go for Rose Wilson (someone who was crushing on nightwing and try to assault Tim Drake)

[@huntertezz]

@@maysun3752 Yeah Rose is cool but Jason deserves better than playing third place to his brothers. I miss Artemis and Bizaro. Jason has been going downhill since then and now he is like a side character in his own book.

[@CaptNightflash]

Nightwing is in my top 4 favorite comic characters of all time, and I will say every time, with my whole chest, that he's the best member of the entire Bat-family, Batman included, but the shit he pulled with Barbara before his wedding was DIRTY.

[@thatonkgau5221]

The whole Scott, Jean and Madeleine thing technically isn't Cheating as Jean and Madeleine are the same person, same genetics, appearance and memories.

[@theanimekid7839]

If you want to be technical, Jean was cheated on since she as an organism was with Scott. Also Madeleine is like less than a year old chronologically so...

[@LegsON]

​@@theanimekid7839Cope🥱

[@ricardoplancha8110]

@@theanimekid7839 We don't know when they switched tho, and Madelyne is the mother of Scott's son. It makes total sense that he would be with her when times were confusing

[@theanimekid7839]

@@ricardoplancha8110 It's implied shortly after the Phoenix incident in the OG series back in '92, so when Jean was either unconscious in the rubble or when she was being medically treated.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

It's seen as cheating by some because they're seperate forms, regardless of how identical they are. However, it's not cheating since Scott didn't know--and when he did, it was him having a conversation with his son's mom. They did go through a lot of stuff in just the first three episodes.

[@Drifter-while-hungry]

Now we gotta have the BEST love interests

[@bojurie]

Johnny Storm not being here is crazy work

[@aquashuriken1634]

It's a shame because other forms of media show that they can be great partners, or just not cheat. Young justice, teen titans, earth's mightiest heroes, the list goes on. And what's even more sad is that even in versions where they do cheat, they're otherwise good characters. It's just the writers they have at the time want to be weird with them.

[@Paxalogical]

It seems like there's also some type of cheating going on in superhero movies/comics. Is there even even a DECENT relationship in this genre???

[@LegendaryOverfiend]

Clark and Lois are still going strong even after that Clark and Wonder Woman nonsense

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

​@@LegendaryOverfiendWasn't nonsense. Clark and Lois never dated in New 52.

[@WinterRabbit1]

Big Barda and her husband Scott are still going strong. I think the only threat was when Barda and Superman where being mind controlled and almost slept together for a B rate villans adult entertainment plot.

[@davidakin3840]

before one more day peter and mj were the best couple but today is lois and clark

[@davidakin3840]

sue and reed

[@mya1256]

Wolverine and Nightwing are my favs and I will forever stand on this 😂 now Wolverine need to move on from Jean my GOD These men be getting down ☠️

[@future-starving-artist]

The good news is, at least men in comics have always been kind to their partners….he said, sarcastically setting up a pt 2 for a bad love interests video

[@Nooneimportant57]

Nightwing's doing better now. Granted, his past mistakes are plentiful, he's been doing better with a commitment perspective

[@BrunofanofK]

Only now I noticed, cap bagged his own grandaughter!

[@bigyoshi5170]

1:24 *Zeus disliked that*

[@rubenbigbro3745]

3:20 bro night wing was my favorite robin and favorite character in dc and know I’m here just to find out that dude a horrible partner 😭

[@daxspitzfax5476]

Yeah the whole Scott, Jean, and Madelyn situation was wild

[@anaemiliaalmeida7238]

According to the series or the comics? Because, the former is perfectly understandable, but the later...

[@mizzy7512]

I love Nightwing and all but this guy needs a good slap 😭 at least in his new comic run he isn’t acting up

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Personally, I'm willing to give Scott a pass. We still don't know when Sinister swapped Jean for Madelyne and Sinister made the clone for the specific purpose to see what would happen if Scott and "Jean" were to conceive a child. So, knowing that Sinister literally made Madelyne to be Scott's personal sex puppet is something that I can't blame him for. But regarding Emma Frost, I'm convinced that Chris Claremont wanted to draw a stripper when he created her. So, the fact that she and Jean have similar powers I can see why Scott would do it.

[@davidakin3840]

that emma frost nonsense was uncalled for tho

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

You'll give Scott a pass for Emma Frost because of her similar powers to Jean? Lol wut

[@dragonetafireball]

Hal Jordan in the corner praying no one remembers when he hooked up with a Green Lantern he actively considered to be 13 mentally and was like “hope people don’t think I’m a child molestor after this”

[@mierrasanders9012]

You know although I may hate these love interest I do appreciate the fact that it is a realistic take on how relationships will work what superheroes

[@lilmeow_]

Hawkgirl in Justice League animated series was making out with Green Lantern while having a boyfriend on her home planet She also was on a mission I love Shayera but girl… she was bad soldier and bad girlfriend too lol

[@WinterRabbit1]

Not even just a boyfriend, she was Engaged. That man was her fiancé.

[@jadbayram496]

Yeah, that whole "destiny" bullshit really made me question why I liked her (I still do just not as much). First in the past where we see her die because she cheated (or a version of her I'm not sure which), then her actively cheating on her fiancee with john, and what's worse is that they tried justifying the relationship by introducing their son in the future

[@danniwills8739]

I feel like dc threw in the cheating for nightwing to “prove he isn’t as good as people seems” 😂

[@justcholey4131]

to be fair nightwing prolly got trauma from what bruce did to him with barbara

[@huntertezz]

That's only in the cartoon. Its not canon to the comics. Also even if we count cartoons, Nightwing slept with Bruce's childhood sweet heart and made out with his girlfriend.

[@briannarobinson5159]

Huh??? Who was that??​@@huntertezz

[@nostalgialounge1597]

@@briannarobinson5159 catwoman & zatanna

[@La-PetitMort]

​@@briannarobinson5159zatanna & catwoman

[@platypusnoise]

Bro went off so hard got a age-restriction

[@Achieme]

Let's not forget Bats was sleeping with Barbara too which is pretty sus AF

[@im.deh11]

the fact that barbara was his sons *ex gf* and his best friends *daughter* made that shi even worse

[@theseven5359]

​@@im.deh11Pretty sure in one instance Barbara was not his sons ex but his curent gf

[@im.deh11]

@@theseven5359 yea, and bruce got her pregnant, plus in some comics bruce is a father figure to barbara, soooo......

[@huntertezz]

That's only in the cartoon. People love to bring up this cursed pairing as if it actually means anything anymore. Bats never slept with Barbara in the comics. Disgusting.

[@theseven5359]

@@huntertezz Technicaly Batman Beyond had a comic run and they were a thing there

[@krystalbernier234]

Batman needs to beat his a**???Where on God's green Earth do you think he learned that behavior??? Batman is my all-time favorite DC character, but Bruce Wayne is the blueprint of "belongs to the streets."

[@saiyanarmy9345]

Nightwing took up the mantle of Bruce Wayne by becoming a major playboy

[@Astropeleki]

You know how Batgirl in the Animated Series basically stringed Nightwing along while getting frisky (and literally pregnant) with his father figure? Well, let's say that now they are even after this 2:18 Like bro; these two torment each other in a way even the Joker would feel is too far.

[@dafilmqueen556]

Batman is definitely a bad love interest overall. He’s a guy wearing a leather gimp furry ninja costume, he is trash as a father figure towards pretty much all of his kids (or at least the ones that DC bothers to remember exist), but worst of all, he is utterly obsessively committed to his mission, even at the expense of others including his own family and friends. It’s this utter obsession with his mission and awful treatment of his family that really sours my attitude towards the character. Makes me wanna go magic route and just launch him so high he enters the sun’s atmosphere and burns to a crisp. Knowing him tho, he’d just come back like William Afton and hunt me down, maybe he’ll even defeat me before I even get the first hit, but don’t worry, that’s only if he sees me coming. Since I’m gonna go reality warping, I’ll just spam him with defeat until he agrees to treat everyone else better..

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

The thing about Batman is that he’s kinda like the reverse of Mario. Mario has no personality while Batman has about 100 different ones depending on who’s writing him. Batman can and should be an actual good dad but he’s not when hacks write him

[@anaemiliaalmeida7238]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!!!!! BEST COMMENT and best description of Batman's character EVER!!!!

[@dennisbeaman958]

​@@MILDMONSTER1234exactly because old Bruce even actually made Robin's go to school and everything else he didn't even want them to fight crime dick greyson he just taught him and helped him catch the killer of his parents so he wouldn't turn out like him and even the 60s batman show robin had to go to school

[@Rengokuo4o6]

It's his life though. if he wants to dedicate his life to fighting crime what's our business? The whole obsessive trait goes out the window when you realise the stuff Batman has to fight and deal with. It's why in my opinion the Batfamily is the single worst thing that happened to Batman. It removed the concentration from Batman going on missions and actually doing what we came to see him do, which is to catch badguys (basically being competent at crime fighting) and saving lives to how he handles the family. One Robin was enough, two was a bad idea obviously (Jason) but the third time was just stupid as hell and what really ruined him (Tim).

[@Rhinox-89]

You know Dick had to learn it from Bats😅 Dude literally banged, knocked up and then dismissed batgirl while his ADOPTED SON was away on a mission For those that are unaware this was in the Beyond comics…. although he would later marry a sane Harley Quinn😮

[@autumn_rose37]

These are so funny pls make a part 3😂😂😂

[@pssct]

about Mark and Eve part, when she cheated i was more angry at Kirkman than Eve, cause it felt like he wanted to drag us through this unfortunate and absolutely droppable event purely because he projected some of his shit into it and was interested in the walking dead so much more that he inserted timeskip instead of writing extra 10-20 chapters

[@malcolmchashi6783]

This channel is 🔥, keep it up bro!

[@rcspalm]

Just found the content. Good shit man, it’s gold

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Regarding the Logan angle, he's been alive since the 1800's so the idea of him being loyal to one woman is literally not possible. That being said, the fact that he's tried to date every female member of the X-Men (except Rogue for obvious reasons) is a little scummy. And I always thought it was flawed on Marvel's editorial staff to literally have a clone of Jean Grey and not have Logan be the answer to the love triangle. If Logan is in love with Jean, he'd love Madelyne too. Or just have him literally get with Jean and have Scott get with Emma Frost, in both situations everybody wins.

[@WinterRabbit1]

Holy shit you’re a genius. (Even though I prefer Logan with Storm. Their relationship is just so…easy) This would have been the perfect solution

[@CYCLOPS1994]

Logan always dreams of sloppy seconds. He can't have his own woman

[@skemonde]

bro i'm not actually into that superheroes theme but DAMN your edits are gold keep it up

[@notbluey05]

Crazy that my fav DC/Marvel heroes for the streets 😭

[@ZackTheThunderking]

definitely want to see a part 3

[@samflood5631]

I wonder who will be on that list, Rogue, Kite Man, Poison Ivy, Joker, Nora Freeze?

[@vaiariikaonohi5141]

Nah u doin Cap dirty with this one.

[@Cassianogol-y7g]

you know Batwing,s name what were you expecting 😂😂😂

[@Jake-gy4bk]

Oh man... Tell me you don't know anything about Nightwing without telling me.

[@vandanacasm]

I saw your video today, part 1, thought..... Why did I find you just now!!! And lo and behold! You come with another one

[@harrisonlwenje3439]

Nightwing: taking all the baddies Me:it should've been me! Not him!

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Your next video should be about when the side chick is better than the main chick. Because I've always believed that Black Cat is far more useful to Spider-Man than Mary Jane is despite being the side chick.

[@officercat7907]

This is mad facts. Especially in the PS4 game he mentions, she is FAR sexier and cooler than MJ.

[@KingRogue]

Nah I'm sorry that's cap

[@jadbayram496]

Ok, but black cat is useless when it comes to Peter. Name one instance where their relationship lasted.

[@teal_m_101]

Has Peter Parker been a doghouse? I know in Spider-Man 3, he flirted with Gwen to spite MJ (tho MJ herself was a pretty nasty person), but he was under the influence of Venom.

[@lyricwatson1824]

imagine cheating on an alien princess with a crippled human.... that made me stop simping for him tbh

[@blacktipsy9479]

Nice video honestly good job .sooooooo have you considered making a godzilla or kaiju video