The Writer Made It Very Hard To Photograph David Icke

[@barbarakane9887]

a good journalist, imho, does not act like that one did.....regardless of your private opinions, you present a calm, objective energy towards your subject. That is how you interview.

[@CoercedJab]

that's how they behave when the Man wants you to conform IMHO

[@CoercedJab]

wether its done knowingly with an agenda or unknowingly after consuming too much TV programming

[@sjenner]

Well played. That journalist was disrespectful and unprofessional. Whatever you think of the deeply divisive Icke, he’d invited the guy into his home and kept his dignity for much longer than most would have done in front of someone behaving like that. I’d live to know more about what you talked about with Icke as clearly it’s left a positive impression!

[@deadsteve2180]

That painting is by Neil Hague. Who is a very nice man. Poor David having to put up with that NPC writer.

[@TokyoXtreme]

The thrust of the problem is that Icke always says that he is reporting the information that he has gathered, and invites the reader to make the same connections. The reporter obviously has an angle, asking for "proof" and the like. Icke doesn't claim to have "proof" - he is only presenting his collected evidence. Of course he has his own beliefs and interpretations, and so do his readers.

[@Velobetty]

"The photographers always understand me" is a really powerful statement. I think it speaks to the ability of a really good photographer to understand and read people. Not agree with them, but understand them.

[@connorttt-yc5uv]

Say what you want about icke this is daily life for him, ask yourself why would he bring this on himself

[@sonny1987100]

YES!! This man doesn't seem to have a good word to say about anyone! Maybe it is you mate!

[@add3to6]

Based Icke casting out the MSM stooge

[@anewcareerinanewtown]

Great shot and it seemed to me the writer was getting irate while Icke stayed quite calm.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

❤ DAVID ICKE he is a STAR 🌟

[@orwellknew3408]

If by star you mean looney, I agree with you

[@stewartcohen-jones2949]

Icke is very careful who he talks to. Nearly all of his interviews are vehicles for his theories. He is though correct in asking people to read his books before challenging him but it’s a defence that has yet not come back to haunt him because he purposely navigates away from criticism. As a man on his own journey he actually comes across as a very likeable guy.

[@Bonobo3D]

Fascinating account of meeting and photographing David Icke. The photos you made of Icke are terrific!

[@sadshoe]

I just can't get over how good the Portrait holding the painting is! I've enjoyed every one of your videos

[@fredandharryborden]

Thank you!! Plenty more on the way!

[@mariocomeq1961]

Some people dare to make a interview without haven't read the book of the nterviewed

[@spoookytooth]

To the interviewer‘s credit: Icke‘s books are ridiculous

[@robbiecale3327]

​@@spoookytooth So it's better to just not know anything about what they've written even if you're about to do an interview solely about his work? Give over

[@spoookytooth]

@@robbiecale3327 you are making a straw-man argument.

[@BlueNorth313]

@@spoookytooth He's not. On the other hand, you've made an ad hominem without going into any specifics. Very easy to just call something ridiculous instead of engaging with the material. Have you actually read any of his books?

[@spoookytooth]

@@BlueNorth313 if you mean that I wrote that Icke‘s books are ridiculous? I stand by that. I would argue that given their content that doesn‘t qualifiy as an ad hominem. What the other guy wrote is an obvious strawman, nothing you can do about that.

[@selinamorrison9275]

Maybe you should read David's books before implying he is anti-semetic - shame on you.

[@Diamonddavej]

David Icke is a British conspiracy theorist and former sports broadcaster who has become one of the most prominent producers of conspiracy content since the 1990s. After a controversial appearance on BBC's Wogan show in 1991 where he claimed he was the "Son of God," Icke developed an elaborate supernatural conspiracy theory centered around the idea that humanity is secretly controlled by a race of shape-shifting reptilian aliens from the Draco constellation. According to Icke's "Reptilian Thesis," these aliens have infiltrated the world's elite families and institutions through genetic manipulation and interbreeding. He claims that prominent figures including the British Royal Family, various U.S. presidents, and the Jewish Rothschild family are actually reptilian beings who consume human blood and engage in ritual child abuse. This forms part of what scholars call a "super-conspiracy" - an overarching narrative that connects multiple conspiracy theories into one grand unified theory. While Icke often attempts to distance himself from accusations of antisemitism by using coded language like "Rothschild Zionism" or "Sabbatean Frankists," academic analyses have identified clear antisemitic themes throughout his work. His writings frequently promote debunked antisemitic propaganda like The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and his descriptions of blood-drinking reptilian elites closely mirror medieval antisemitic blood libel accusations. Content analysis of his KZbin videos and audience comments reveals a strong focus on Jewish-related targets of conspiracy accusations, with terms like "Zionist," "Rothschild," and "Jews" being dramatically overrepresented compared to general online discourse. Icke has built a significant following through skilled use of multiple media platforms, including books, international speaking tours, and social media. His conspiracy theories incorporate elements of New Age spirituality, pseudo-history, and political extremism into an ideological worldview that presents all major world events as orchestrated by a malevolent alien elite. While he frames his work as revealing hidden truths, careful analysis shows his theories perpetuate dangerous antisemitic myths under a veneer of supernatural and science-fictional elements. His KZbin channel was eventually deleted in 2020 for promoting harmful disinformation, though his influence continues through other platforms. The overarching theme in Icke's work is the idea that human society and consciousness are being manipulated and suppressed by powerful hidden forces. However, his seemingly novel supernatural narrative often serves as a vehicle for promoting traditional conspiracy theories and prejudices, particularly antisemitism, while maintaining plausible deniability through elaborate metaphorical frameworks.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

💙 David Icke

[@darrenelkins5923]

I wager that journalist knows nothing of axioms and postulates in science

[@mattharvey2327]

Great stories, glad you recorded them

[@fredandharryborden]

Thank you!

[@simplistic0]

The culmination of that interview is hilarious, what an amazing story to be able to tell. Fantastic.

[@fredandharryborden]

Thank you!

[@fredandharryborden]

The back and forth in the interview I found quite funny, wish I could of witnessed it with Harry!

[@brianlopez8855]

this guy clearly doesn't really listen to his clients. David should save his breath, its wasted on these folk.

[@fredandharryborden]

clearly!!!

[@bambambam5663]

Wow. To be a photographer is not only about camera and exposure. Great experience.

[@dhollsynthmusic]

You're a fine anecdote teller, and in your position I would also have sided with Icke. That writer was just rudely-confrontational and didn't let David speak, with that infuriating repeating "just explain it to me then!"....well he would if you'd just shut up, mate! Whether we believe what David says or not, if one is interviewing him you let him speak. On your critical intro: it's a common misconception that Icke told Wogan he's the "literally the son of God." Watch it again. He's referring to the Godhead, of which we all belong (albeit unconsciously....i.e. Jung's Collective Unconscious), just that David claims he is fine-tuned to it. Wogan wanted to pigeonhole him into the 'son of god' label and it kinda fell that way for the lay listener. Regarding anti-semitic tropes in Icke's work, i guess that's a matter of debate. There are factual things there, but some listeners (perhaps David himself) may fall into the trap of thinking there's more to certain 'over-representation' than there really is.

[@phaioncirrus3818]

absolutely no reason to slander a man by implying he's an antisemite, even if done subtly. shame on you

[@BlueNorth313]

Agreed.

[@wiggums123-n2g]

Being antisemite isnt slander, its actually a compliment these days.

[@billanderson9908]

Sorry ou are wrong. David Icke is an antisemite. He has pointed out people, George Soros for one, and labeled them as "The Jew....", as if it were illegal to be a Jew. He also claims that he understands what it really means to be a Jew, when in fact he saying Jews are all right, as long as they don't get on David Icke's nerves. He is the worst kind of bigoted hypocrite.

[@EdgarStyles1234]

even when it's true?

[@queenria7]

I wholeheartedly agree! By now it's been proven in court that Icke has never said or written anything "antisemitic". People should ask themselves why he needs to be slandered like that. The answer is becoming more obvious every day, as he gets proven right again and again

[@JamesPawson]

Signs of immaturity: arguing with somebody like Icke in the way that guy was; blanking off photographer afterwards; and I have no proof, (but I mean come on look at the guy) staying up late and partying the night before a big interview... all the behavior of a slightly above-average intelligence man in his twenties. The arrogance, the self-important, righteous indignation... I remember it well.

[@davidwhite1982]

I owe Icke a debt of gratitude. His insane theories encouraged me to dig my way back out from the rabbit hole before it was too late.

[@audioupgrades]

The problem with Icke is that he single-handedly kept the most dangerous conspiracy theories alive. In the beginning, nobody believed him, but a new generation has grown up to embrace those really toxic ideas and they think of Icke as a prophet.

[@BlueNorth313]

🤡

[@kevinwelsh7490]

Icke is boldly eccentric, not obsessive. I think of his stories as colourful characterizations.

[@CoercedJab]

which booster you on buddy?

[@GlobgobGabgalab]

You crawled back into your matrix pod, congrats

[@andyjwild5219]

AHHH!!! I FIND THAT SO ANNOYING!!! He never said that he was the the son of God. Anyone, please show me a clip where he says this. While you're at it, show me any clip where he says anything anti-semetic... please... anyone....

[@ALightOn]

Same! He said we are all sons of God. People are just idiots.

[@marinka424]

Is it because Wogan framed it that way. Wogan said Icke was saying he was the son of god. So you are saying Icke didn’t say it. I’m intrigued I will have to look at it now to see.

[@darz_k.]

facts.

[@NOWtheband]

@andyjwild5219 = Precisely. Very well put! 🙂

[@justcomments1239]

The argument is more so that what Icke says about “lizards” fits the same historical tropes that existed against Jews. So if you’re being charitable you could say it’s something that’s in the culture that icke has grown up with, and he unconsciously brought all this stuff into his theories. & if you’re not being charitable you can just see it as a code word for Jews. I definitely recommend Jon Ronson’s book ‘them’ on this subject. There is a chapter where he is with David Icke

[@KungFuMovies85]

David Icke makes more and more sense as the years goes by

[@coprographia]

Is that because you’re getting smarter? Probably not?

[@KungFuMovies85]

@coprographia and you had your 5th booster?

[@ReginaMills-c4d]

​@@coprographia Low IQ comment

[@CoercedJab]

@@KungFuMovies85 I hear we can get our booster and flu shot at the same time now. Thanks to Saint Fauci

[@chimera8421]

This interview put me off Wogan forever! Nasty man.

[@writersloane]

The lion painting is the cover art for one of his books. The writer and photographer treated Mr. Icke incredibly disrespectful in his own home, to which you were invited. Maybe one day you'll wake up and see reality. Meantime, I ask you this: Can you see electricity? How do you know it exists? Can you explain its origin? ......

[@fredandharryborden]

How can you see reality? How do you know it exists? Can you explain it's origin?

[@borocavalier]

I AGREE. Much of what Icke says makes sense to me but not all. However he should expect to be challenged over his ideas. Proof and evidence is needed. As in a court of law the jury or judge make a decision based on evidence. As for the camera man all he was interested in was his pictures and would use any means to obtain them.

[@kevinwelsh7490]

@@borocavalier portrait photographers are looking for a reaction, it's totally fair to say or do almost anything to get it. For the sake of creating a moment.

[@CoercedJab]

@@kevinwelsh7490 doesn't seem like it was so innocent if he's calling the writer afterwards to let hum circle jerk over the ruse...

[@queenria7]

That journalist seems unusually dense.

[@wyattbottorff2473]

Icke is an interesting fellow. I truly think he believes everything he says. I even think he is often correct, even if not in such a strictly literal sense as people like to interpret.

[@raygrange7312]

Ike is no nutter.

[@geofftayloruk]

He gives people what they want is the truth....

[@markdonaldson1450]

No, he's a nutter.

[@raygrange7312]

@@markdonaldson1450 Why.? What do you know?

[@markdonaldson1450]

@@raygrange7312 I just listen to him. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realise he's a fruitcake.

[@lordcharfield]

@@markdonaldson1450You know nothing about him?

[@nikoroo]

Such a shame. I thoroughly enjoyed the way you told your story regarding Hilary, that’s how I found your Channel. But the way you slandered Icke (I’m not even an Icke fan) and added that clown music to their interaction was very low brow and cheap. It would have been a great opportunity to hear them discuss their differing views. If anything Icke actually came across quite measured - the interviewer on the other hand was clearly trying to be antagonistic. The collective consciousness is at a point now where we can clearly see the lies and bullshit, and people have had enough. Icke’s popularity is indicative of that. You did capture him beautifully I’ll give you that. But the fact you tried to weasel your way back in to the good graces of the interviewer afterwards and gleeful that you did it just to get the shot - clearly shows your lack of integrity and shamelessness. At least you were honest. What a time to be alive… where people are nonchalantly character assassinating those who speak against the manufactured narrative and the approved hegemonic discourse… Sad. Here’s hoping you find grace and wisdom in your later years. 🙏🏽

[@CoercedJab]

yo yes! im on that same boat. this was so disappointing. the clown music was ridiculous! As if talking about the visible spectrum humans can see is kooky when it's literally sciencey -_- Also the two faced ruse was so lame. Especially calling the writer to gloat about the ruse says a lot. TBH the Hillary video had a red lag where he wants to give her a copy of his first book (lol) so he can show her how deep he is but something seemed off when you do that by shamelessly plugging your own book LMAO I would've handed her Closing of the American Mind or something not guilt tripping her into accepting a holocaust book... Icke was a boss here. Very cool in the face of that pressure from the writer. gave me anxiety to imagine myself standing by my own fringe claims and then inviting a writer into my home only for them to start grilling me about proof of my claims... like a shake down or something but icke was very cool.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

David Icke is a Star 🌟

[@JohnR1298]

Ike was right there!

[@michaeltaylor8835]

Wogan is the joke now

[@mickg7299]

Actually the joke is on Icke, banned from every video sharing and social media platform, he’s even banned from travelling in Europe 😂

[@Danielle-y1l]

No he's not! David Icke is a false prophet!

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

Even older codgers remember Icke as a run of the mill sports presenter.

[@stwads]

...... & a professional goalkeeper!

[@lorjon68]

@@stwads No one remembers that bit.

[@stwads]

lol@@lorjon68

[@teslaandhumanity7383]

The lion has a big meaning in our future .

[@HetVarken]

This is, without a doubt, the most interesting channel for me right now, as I've just started getting into photography. Each video leaves me excited for the next, always wanting more! Thank you Fred and Harry.

[@fredandharryborden]

That is such a lovely comment, thank you! Plenty more on the way with some big names!

[@unclebungle7870]

Any idea who the interviewer with Icke was?

[@platonkarataev550]

It doesn't matter who he was? He's rubbish clearly! No interviewing skills.

[@steveharper879]

I believe that was Joe Dirt conducting the interview

[@unclebungle7870]

@@platonkarataev550 it does to me

[@nicolagianaroli2024]

Your intro is despicable. David Icke was a professional footballer and was also a successful TV sport commentator. He had it all and he took a giant leap in the darkness in the moment he has started a brand new life

[@daviddogbert9898]

Bloody hell, the tin foil hat brigade turned out in force for this one. Comments section scary.

[@fredandharryborden]

haha, yep!

[@BlueNorth313]

So scawwy :,(

[@lordcharfield]

@@fredandharryborden Bit unfair!

[@Miichael-b1j]

Calm down . ' Tin foil ' says more about you these days . If you think this is scary you need to get out more .

[@BlueNorth313]

@@Miichael-b1j They're probably plugged to msm all day.

[@SiriusCJS]

If a journalist shows up to an interview without having researched his subject he should be fired. It's a professional journalist's responsibility to read his subject's latest work. That's really the reason why the two of them are sitting down together in the first place. The sarcastic remark about Icke being mad about the writer not reading *all* of his books is a bit off.

[@Brian-cm5gw]

That show changed my life...

[@tfootball8704]

Can you say when this happened?

[@fredandharryborden]

I think it was 2013

[@mastercosm1c472]

Says it was 2024 on his profile where I seen the video on facebook

[@platonkarataev550]

I don't care what anyone says, David Icke makes a lot of sense to me.

[@alanbell2156]

Once you cut through the nonsense there's ideas on there that now don't seem that outlandish

[@dougiezen]

What a prat of an interviewer unbelievable

[@rosecitydevil]

It's almost impossible to find any David Icke videos on youtube anymore, seems like most of them have been scrubbed and the algorithms are fixed. 🤬

[@mariocomeq1961]

Correct. Since 2020 he dessapeared, and was not the only one.

[@packleader1215]

I still have the original "America: Freedom or Fascism" lecture from Google Video from 2008

[@subliminalart.1637]

Jealousy will destroy you. 😎🇬🇧

[@martinlawrence8427]

Another classic video...fascinating...thanks!

[@glamdolly30]

No honour among journalists or photographers, all want a piece of the celebrity action and will clamber over their own grannie to get it!

[@CoercedJab]

sure seems like it. don't forget giving people higher up the pecking order a copy of their own books lol

[@kodithebear]

Great story and photos!

[@roxikoko3744]

What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? About 6 months.

[@HughRogers609]

name one that's been proven. It'll take you a while...

[@DorothyOfTheWest]

So, provide us with your extensive list of now proven and truthful insights that were considered conspiracy theory a few months ago. None??? yeah, we all knew that.

[@CoercedJab]

@@DorothyOfTheWest " So spoon-fed me what to believe like my TV does for me since I never remember anything past a few months ago." - You 🤡 No wonder the only thing you "knew" was how to respond to someone suggesting a conspiracy... You do KNOW cxnspiracies are legally recognized right? I could do one nearly every day at this rate BTW from tic tacs to pardons for hunter bidden LMAO

[@CoercedJab]

@@HughRogers609 you get spoon fed all your information is that why you expect the same here? I can't think of one for 3 weeks ago when you commented rn but I can for the past 3 hours actually TWO 1. HB will get pardoned theory, after months of denial now proven true. 2. SK preparing for mart!a! law after NK movements, called tinfoil until PROVEN TRUE. Parliament stopped it but President is taking it behind closed doors. but it did in fact happen.

[@Kevin_YouTube]

Really interesting. Well done on getting the images👍

[@Etheldreda-]

All a “ruse” eh, not very respectful at all. And the antisemitism bs is sooo boring.

[@kennymcleish]

Another brilliant story! Fascinating! I'd love to see the selection of images you provide to the people providing the commission. The volume, the variety etc. That'd be interesting to me.

[@fredandharryborden]

Thanks Kenny. Maybe we could incorporate this into a video as well! I asked Harry, he said back when he was working on film he used to send at most only 5 hero images to the commisioner. But now, in the digital era, he would maybe send 20. The majority of the images on these videos have never been seen, he sends me 100s when I'm editing them so I'm not sure why he gives the commisioners such little choice!

[@ARASANU.]

In the end it is not about true or false what Icke says.. it’s about a free mind that is not a slave to thoughts in anyway but can choose what to accept or to deny. It’s about staying aware of what thoughts run through you and decide if you want them or not. Do you want the thought of “the world is at chaos”? Have it! Do you want the thought “life is divinely perfect in any way”? Have it!

[@spaceskipster4412]

The writer didn’t realise that he is a true reptilian judging by his lack of intelligence and respect…! ✊🏼 😅

[@ihateunicorns867]

Despite your playing a role to get your shots, the journalist was being incredibly selfish by needlessly creating an atmosphere that jeopardised your ability to do your job. You don't owe them any kind of apology.

[@Behindstage]

A broken clock is right twice a day. Saying that icke is quite likeable and your photos are great.

[@mrt3946]

Google - Annunaki

[@leelynch3614]

People are going to be looking at this guy in a few years and wishing they had maybe given him a little more credit. Careful about naming things conspiracy theories. Most of them are coming true.

[@coprographia]

Jesus fuckin’ Christ…

[@leelynch3614]

@coprographia That one's real for sure but without the middle name you proposed.

[@CoercedJab]

@@coprographia IKR I trust the science and im sure we will only be locked down for two weeks! unlike those fkn consp!ritards who think its an excuse to shut down businessess, raise prices, induce learning loss in a new gen of children, and mandate !njections into toddlers and kids.... Wait what year is it again?

[@tonymonaghan5993]

Love it!!

[@changelocation]

Handbags 👜depends on your observations 😊

[@fredperry523]

Icke seem like a quite reasonable fellow compared to this irritating Pratt ( In Ickes own word ). I would have also told him to FO!

[@NOWtheband]

Blimey, that "journalist"/"writer" chap seems a little bellend-esque. An interesting video/story, again. 🙂

[@sadshoe]

great story - amazing photos

[@fredandharryborden]

Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed!

[@MC-jv6fs]

-Mr X, or however youmight be. I am astonished by following your introduction, which put a portreait in words, which is not real, compared to Mr David ICKE. I think its the thing calles " purpose of art", or " l'art pour l'art". What is really no good, because D.ICKE ist still a living person. -I dont go deeper into your verbal rhetoric parts.I just want you to tell: you missed the picture behind the picture. And this is - too, for an artist - the biggest fail he/she/it could ever be able to do. Au revoir!!

[@lorjon68]

AI bot goes wild after ingesting virtual mushrooms.

[@TheTooontje]

ahh divorced. oh harry.

[@CoercedJab]

antisemitic tropes wtf????

[@SuperBagshot]

It's a moral dilemma whether David should be sectioned under the mental health act because he is dangerous or that the state would be silencing alternative views

[@mickg7299]

I’m disappointed, I was hoping he’d be wearing his turquoise shell suit 🤭

[@monkeyseemonkeydo432]

Oh don’t act like a prat

[@mickg7299]

@@monkeyseemonkeydo432 better to act like one than to actually be one 👌 😘

[@mickg7299]

@@Noneofyourbusiness57817 🫵 🛎️🔚

[@JeffCreates]

Really interesting story of a meeting with a lunatic.

[@fredandharryborden]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed!

[@flustered1939]

Watched the video all the way through at no point have I seen a meeting with a lunatic, putin, Hitler, polpot, not even a glimpse

[@unclebungle7870]

I was feeling a bit low this morning but your comment has rather cheered me up!

[@hattmancock6396]

don't agree with everything he says but if you occupy a reality where it is all Lunacy, I pity you

[@Captain_Lockheed]

He's no lunatic.

[@audioupgrades]

The story and the photos are good but the subject... nah, pass.

[@fredandharryborden]

Thanks for the kind comments. But, yeah - I still found it interesting either way.

[@audioupgrades]

@@fredandharryborden The story is definitely worth telling. The professionalism is impressive.

[@CoercedJab]

@@audioupgrades yeah so professional to put clown music over an argument about the visible spectrum. I wonder who told you what to think of Icke first?

[@audioupgrades]

@@CoercedJab Things that are new to you are very old to other people.

[@blacksigma4243]

Icke❤