The Yamaha WR250F Is Not What You'd Think Anymore

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Ash Sowman

Ash Sowman

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@ashsowman
@ashsowman 2 жыл бұрын
Before you complain about not being able to hear the bike... I made a raw sound video already, go check that out 🔊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWq8iKZ4l9J4eLs In-depth, sit down and talk style recap video coming soon about my personal experience of owning and riding this bike. Including how to make it start better, and my custom engine maps etc. Subscribe so that you don't miss it!
@Antholography
@Antholography 2 жыл бұрын
@Ash WR250R instead of the WR250F.
@FlynnKells
@FlynnKells 2 жыл бұрын
Did i see the wr on trade me the other day ?
@stefpi7324
@stefpi7324 2 жыл бұрын
If you want a smooth WR, why did you plug the competition ECU?
@محمدالنهدي-ش8و
@محمدالنهدي-ش8و 6 ай бұрын
​@@Antholography😂
@kalebjones1647
@kalebjones1647 2 жыл бұрын
I can't describe how well these videos are put together, I love it.
@damolux3388
@damolux3388 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they need to make a 350. I bloody well wish (wush) they would.
@jemd7326
@jemd7326 2 жыл бұрын
That would be so fucken good if there was a wr350f
@Fontainebleauify
@Fontainebleauify 2 жыл бұрын
@@jemd7326 I'd prefer 300, my 250fx just need a little, not much.
@willk76
@willk76 8 ай бұрын
Sold my WR250f (admittedly a 2006) and bought a Husky FE350 and so far couldnt be happier. The WR is a fantastic bike, I honestly mean that 100%, but the stalling on steep rocky hills caught me out a couple times and watched friends sail past whilst i was struggling. Hard to have nice things to say about the WR at the top of the hill when you get there last. Everything else i really liked about it, and it actually has snappier bottom end than the efi husky, but give it a wrist load and the husky is in another tier. Can see why nobody rides WRs for enduro anymore. Its pumpkins and huskies with the odd red or blue 450 in the mix. Great vid mate!
@keithcring8011
@keithcring8011 6 ай бұрын
I have a yz250fx. This bike seems identical with a light. You nailed it.
@oakblokemoto4940
@oakblokemoto4940 2 жыл бұрын
100% on point. Shop Yamaha rider Kyron Bacon is currently leading the points standings outright in the Australian offorad championship and also leading the Australian 4 day enduro outright all on the humble wr250f... maybe there's something to it? "nah she's just an old ag bike mate"
@AS-dc8tb
@AS-dc8tb 2 жыл бұрын
I ride mostly slow technical so I added two teeth to the rear sprocket. Problem solved. As for the stalling, just learn how to use the clutch more/differently (and also, the bigger rear sprocket helps a lot for that). Problem solved again. But all in all, very fair and accurate review in my view.
@chrispewkreme
@chrispewkreme 7 ай бұрын
Interesting to see your experience on this bike. I have a WR250R and it’s so comfy and relaxed. Almost too plush. You jump it, and immediately bottom the suspension. It tractors along well but also struggles in hard enduro type situations. I had a YZ250 and it was painful to ride slow. And a bit of a handful in hard enduro stuff. I now have a YZ250X with a Apex head and Lectron carb. Absolutely night and day. Suspension is plush and comfy but you could still jump it as long as you don’t expect super cross level of performance. It tractors along effortlessly. It can be ridden more relaxed. It can be pushed hard. It excels in hard enduro terrain. It’s just so playful and fun and pulls like a damn freight train when you’ve got the open space for it. I’ve ridden a 450FX and there’s no way I could ride hard enduro on it. But I would thing a WR250FX is a solid performer?
@ZmanAdventurez88
@ZmanAdventurez88 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say, the WR250F really might be the best 4 stroke Enduro bike ever. As far as 4 stroke Enduro bikes go at least
@richardhammond2633
@richardhammond2633 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much agree with all that. I have a 2020 which is identical. No doubt a flywheel or clutch weight would make a big difference. The snappy power is incredible for a 250f and the suspension can save you. Good review 👍
@ashsowman
@ashsowman 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Hammo!
@alternativeperception6949
@alternativeperception6949 2 жыл бұрын
I want a modern alternative to the XT 350 👍 Ride it all day across loads of different types of terrain
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 2 жыл бұрын
You said what Iv been saying since 2015. I had an FX, and sold it cuz it was too aggressive when 50% of time I putz around and explore. I went to go buy a '21 WR250f, and could feel it was too similar to the FX. Jerky throttle, Suspension amazing except at slow rough terrain. And the clutch drags from the factory. I have and had race bikes, but my trail bike is now a '21 Kayo K6 250 EFI and it was $5k new. Those and the WR are the only 250f enduro platforms out there with a 6 speed, lights, efi, and softer suspension. Im glad I bought it, bike is fun and plush on the trails.
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov '15 and up. But thats the year with efi, 6 speed and the reversed motor also
@jonathondavis170
@jonathondavis170 2 жыл бұрын
BEAUTIFULLY MADE, and HONEST! Bravo dude! 👏 💪 You gave a true reflection of ownership, and people need to hearthe truth!
@jackarougi11
@jackarougi11 2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head with absolutely EVERYTHING! I had a 2018 WR250F and I had all the some loves and complaints. It was great for fast enduros and when I started getting into hard enduro it was so far from the bike I needed. Awesome work on the videos as well, the video style reminds me a lot of Top Gear mate. Keep it up.
@wakawaka12320
@wakawaka12320 2 жыл бұрын
Your right the WR line is are just hyvrid yzs and just stall and are way to violent and harsh for hard enduro, i swapped to a 300 2 stroke and its night and day
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@georgeaubin9464
@georgeaubin9464 2 жыл бұрын
We need some more sticks adventures with the boys
@chippychomper4294
@chippychomper4294 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2021 wr 250f and it feels more like it’s set up for moto cross then enduro
@czierwo
@czierwo Жыл бұрын
I shouldn't even have the privilege to comment on the topic lol! I ride a 2008 klx450r, and loving it. Torquey, but friendly ride, with lights. Never stalls, punchy but by no means lightning fast throttle response. Great for a novice like me, certainly wouldn't be able to enjoy anythjng that is razor sharp ready to kill, like a two stroke of any displacement lol. Rode my friend's 300cc two stroke ktm exc or smt like that, and that thing was way too hyper for my skill. Great videos, editing and cinematics a top notch.
@rezkidgamingyt4725
@rezkidgamingyt4725 Жыл бұрын
I’ve notice the same I stall all the time in slow stuff but it just takes some getting uses to and getting the competition ECU and CCU so you can tune the engine to exactly what you want on the 2023 model it’s a Awsome bike I climbed all kinds of hills and hard induro riding
@ChrisFZ
@ChrisFZ 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work! I got a dyno tune on my '15 FX at Honda Country in Ashburton, it gave a great improvement on the snappy throttle and stalling issues once the fueling and timing are optimized! I have an 18 inch road Tyre you can borrow for the dyno test if you're interested.
@maxbell5094
@maxbell5094 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm only 10 years old but thanks 💯
@parjanfin
@parjanfin 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha WR250F has it's issues. I've built four WR250F's so far to my liking (-07, -17, -21 and currently -22). From the latest builds I've posted some videos to my channel. Also tried to explain why certain changes has been done. Don't get me wrong, WR250F is a damn good bike. But like all bikes, it also needs to be built to suite your weight, riding style etc. etc.
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@parjanfin
@parjanfin Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov depends on the level what you think is race-oriented and what is "plush"? At least these EU -models started to be more race-oriented from -21 onwards. Obviously you need to build even those to your liking. In my opinion there's no suchs thing as "Race ready" bike :)
@Paul-gu2lv
@Paul-gu2lv 5 ай бұрын
I just got one and have to say I couldn't have put it better myself. Messing around with the mapping and suspension helps a lot, but it's still not a 300 2 stroke, which I feel I should have gotten. I just have more trust in Honda and Yamaha than the (Indian/Chinese) European brand.
@samcooper4984
@samcooper4984 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha need to make a 350 that would be a game changer
@deanfakes5314
@deanfakes5314 2 жыл бұрын
Iv ridden 2st all my life and fancied swapping over to 4t and still kinda wanted that 2st feel , which imo it does, feels lively ..I ride bit of moto x and lanes / woods .. Great bike for me
@robdavis4209
@robdavis4209 2 жыл бұрын
3:57 that stick flying!
@nolansmith1211
@nolansmith1211 2 жыл бұрын
i swear this guy can sell me anything, i watched his yz450fx vid, then had to go buy one, now i want one of these!
@adambitingdog101
@adambitingdog101 10 ай бұрын
I own one of these. I think you're about right. I had the suspension revalved, and it's still a little stiff for the gnarly terrain I like, but it's okay. I wrote a KTM 300 XCW for 7 and 1/2 years before I bought this bike, and this is a better bike, But the transition is beating the shit out of me
@malleedirtbikerider
@malleedirtbikerider 2 жыл бұрын
My WR450f had the same flame out/stall issue and I put an aftermarket exhaust on it and the problem is gone. The stock exhaust even fully gutted is still too restrictive in my opinion.
@ryan302turbo
@ryan302turbo 2 жыл бұрын
i have a 2021 WR450f, i have it street legal and i also take to trails and everything else. good review
@troyza450
@troyza450 2 жыл бұрын
Once you chuck a after market muffler on let me know how you go at hard enduro. I didn’t like riding my WR250f on more technical tracks till I changed the muffler and map
@jemd7326
@jemd7326 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the exact same bike and I put a pro cuircut t7 on it the full system and it opens it up so much better and it’s quite a bit louder to and it’s goes hard on the enduro
@troyza450
@troyza450 2 жыл бұрын
@@jemd7326 that’s good to hear, my 2018 is grouse for hard enduro
@nickovdub6131
@nickovdub6131 2 жыл бұрын
Wish we this lucky to get the gytr ecu and ccu as standard....almost a year later and I'm still trying to find one as they are all on backorder
@troyza450
@troyza450 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickovdub6131 oh wow
@SeaRun1
@SeaRun1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 and ride single track exclusively. A Rekluse solves your issues with the bike fairly well. A two stroke YZ250X solves it even better.
@firemenonbikes
@firemenonbikes 2 жыл бұрын
YZ250x with Rekluse and LHRB, so good.
@liamsrides6023
@liamsrides6023 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I have to disagree with you. I had a 2018 WR250F and I now have a 2022 WR250F. My 2018 was a little too soft, but it was easily fixed with clicker adjustment. At least the clickers make a noticeable difference on KYB suspension (unlike WP). My 2022 is just about perfect straight out of the box, (with a FMF pipe). My only criticism is that it is easier to stall the engine than my 2018 was, but I put that down to rider error (my lack of talent). I find the FX version more harsh and not as good at soaking up trail hits at Clubman pace. The manufacturer can't win as everyone likes a different setup, but that's why they're adjustable.
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 2 жыл бұрын
You are riding to low in the compression cuz of your weight. Wind the compression 3 clicks from full soft, and wind the rebound 3 clicks from full hard to hold u up in the soft part of the compression. Still feels firm but great for slow enduro riding.
@John-pv1vb
@John-pv1vb 2 жыл бұрын
i got the 2019 and u gotta add the fmf megabomg plus gytr 4.1 and change mapping on the power tuner. open the airbox and add gummie- tubliss tires and you got a tractor torque machine. i'm also 190lbs on stock suspension so its a little more plush on the hard enduro
@Fried_hippos
@Fried_hippos 2 жыл бұрын
glad i got a klx450, in 2021 it is the perfect enduro bike as you put it, not the perfect hard core enduro but the inbetween stuff,
@lukewatson3071
@lukewatson3071 2 жыл бұрын
great vid but at times it kinda felt like you're more trying to talk us out of buying a KTM? 😉
@pechemodedemploi5118
@pechemodedemploi5118 Жыл бұрын
Pro edit, really good edit. Congrat!
@spun222499
@spun222499 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese bikes need to fill in their increasingly large gaps between the entry level and competition bikes... you know where most recreational riders fall into. lifetime of riding red and finally ditching my 21 250RX for a shade of orange as much as it pains me to do so...
@22dagget
@22dagget 2 жыл бұрын
Well Kawasaki does. The KLX300R is a fantastic bike for the money
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Suzuki RMX 450. Love it.......though I do wish it were 20 lbs lighter. Great all around bike.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate. 👌 The Sherco 300 SEF Factory is everything the WR250F should be. Extra 50cc for torque and the 2 position map switch stock. Softer tune in the KYB suspension. All the extras fitted standard that KTM charge you for, Plus even has the gripper seat cover 😉 Maybe check it out 👍
@stelio37
@stelio37 2 жыл бұрын
True, if only had the reliability of the Yamaha
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 2 жыл бұрын
@@stelio37 Don't know where you'd heard they haven't 🤷
@rayheppner8391
@rayheppner8391 2 жыл бұрын
The Sherco is better looking as well other than the huge silencer. It feels lighter and less bulky as well.
@oakblokemoto4940
@oakblokemoto4940 2 жыл бұрын
I can attest - Had an 18 sherco 300sef from new and now a 20 wr250f. The Sherco definitely doesn't have more torque (surpisingly) and the yamaha does have a map switch aswell as a wifi programmable ecu. Would honestly love to mash the 2 together as there are things I love and hate about both. I would Probably buy a Sherco again as an all round trailrider but the Yam as a racer. It really all depends on your flavour
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 2 жыл бұрын
@@oakblokemoto4940 There were good updates to the Sherco engine in 2019, and again in the last couple of years. Also the now come with the SSS KYB fork and shock. Definitely worth looking at again, and yes, the Yamaha is a good package as well.
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet Жыл бұрын
I guess I’ll keep ahold of my 09 wr250f with 290 kit. I haven’t found a better bike for the riding I do. Has a recluse clutch, suspension by racetech suspension valved and spring just for me….. I always want a new bike. Til I ride one
@ianthompson043
@ianthompson043 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like all this bike needs is a flywheel weight, a suspension revalve, and an exhaust.
@frozt900ccm
@frozt900ccm 2 жыл бұрын
The suspension fore sure need to soften upp.
@11regnartseht
@11regnartseht 2 жыл бұрын
I still think my ttr250 is the best trail bike ever. Would be nice if they still made something like that.
@draiyko
@draiyko 6 ай бұрын
Well done, absolutely perfect reflection 💯 percent
@jnavonoD
@jnavonoD 2 жыл бұрын
I had an '18 WR250F. It is the second most fun bike I have owned, after my 2012 KTM200 XCW 2-banger. Could easily see myself owning another. EDIT Oh and yep the flameout, ha ha. Mind you, I had a 450F too, it also flamed out easy.
@TheBiko
@TheBiko 2 жыл бұрын
I love how dramatic this is
@jonathanlane9867
@jonathanlane9867 2 жыл бұрын
Great review mate..!
@Jwils4
@Jwils4 Жыл бұрын
Well that's a bummer. I was looking into this bike. I want something that will lug likey raptor 700 and not stall.
@jeandreolivier67
@jeandreolivier67 2 жыл бұрын
My plan is to buy the same radioator fan as the WR and fit it on the fx
@nickg2431
@nickg2431 Жыл бұрын
Nice honest video,thanks
@sowman69
@sowman69 Жыл бұрын
Great surname champ 🏆
@frosty2717
@frosty2717 5 ай бұрын
So what’s the difference between the yz250fx and the wr250’s?
@Wr450Ripper
@Wr450Ripper 9 ай бұрын
What about the 2024 wr 450f? Im getting one in January asoon as they are here in the uk. Id be interested in what you think of it?
@danielgaul7461
@danielgaul7461 Жыл бұрын
Rider height and weight foe the guys already rippin this machine?? Im 6ft and 200lbs. Can i jump,land, climb not have it max out engine most of the time?
@chrissimpson9681
@chrissimpson9681 2 жыл бұрын
Need to use clutch control when at low speeds
@chrishill8805
@chrishill8805 2 жыл бұрын
426 riders will agree.
@Superdisco199
@Superdisco199 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary. I'd love to return to the WR's of old where I started. Riding the latest yammy against a 2011 CRF250X last week it was clear to me the honda was more comfortable, versatile, useable etc. I don't think they can do much about the snatchyness with the FI, you either have the power or you don't, lag was a built in feature of the carb. They've moved the power up the rev range a bit (like the KTM's) which makes it a little less snatchy down low versus the 2018 FX etc...but you sacrifice low end power as a result. As for the rigidity... you just can't fix that, you have to wait for the factory to address it. Softer springs is a start. If billy bolt runs .43 on his forks, god knows why yamaha went from .42 on the old gen to .46 ? on the new one. It just amplifies the frame issues.
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@Superdisco199
@Superdisco199 Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov its gotten a little more rigid with each revision i.e My friend sold his 2015 to go back to his 14 carb model. 18, 20, 22 continued to become more race oriented.
@genomedia44
@genomedia44 Жыл бұрын
So you're saying it's race ready? 😜 Nice review
@oldluxy
@oldluxy 2 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong about the handling! Things ride like there on rails if your riding them hard, otherwise they ride like pigs and the front tends to feel sketchy
@anthonyusher4662
@anthonyusher4662 2 жыл бұрын
The bike is just not a 2 stroke though, all props to yamaha but right now 2 stroke seems to be where all technologies leading too.
@IBOO57
@IBOO57 2 жыл бұрын
So what are the best WR250's? Alloy frame but still running a Carby?
@donaldwilcoxjr.5212
@donaldwilcoxjr.5212 2 жыл бұрын
I would love own a new one I have a totally nut and bolt top to bottom 2006 I re done a year ago and I love the WR s
@donaldwilcoxjr.5212
@donaldwilcoxjr.5212 2 жыл бұрын
I do.have the 450f version though not the 250. But in the new one 250 be just fine
@Rossi46Moore
@Rossi46Moore 2 жыл бұрын
It's biggest problem is it has too many valves and a cam chain.
@aries300x
@aries300x 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MartinTeerly
@MartinTeerly 2 жыл бұрын
How about older models 2017 or 2020 ?I'm looking to buy Yamaha 250
@edshmedly1
@edshmedly1 Жыл бұрын
Any info where to find a flywheel weight for the 2023 wr250f?
@brianreinert5028
@brianreinert5028 3 ай бұрын
Rider double… lol “I don’t always ride like this”
@rvturner15
@rvturner15 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you finding a flywheel weight for the 15+ WRs. I've only seen them for the yzf/yzfx.
@brettdesnoyers3831
@brettdesnoyers3831 Жыл бұрын
I like it this way
@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8
@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 Жыл бұрын
*Tied for the Fastest 250 on the market* *with a Top Speed of 85 mph. Wow, that's Warp Speed for a 250*
@jaynen
@jaynen 2 жыл бұрын
Cant you put the keefer free feeling map on their like the yz250fx?
@ryangodley2666
@ryangodley2666 2 жыл бұрын
Are you ARiemann1's younger self?
@undertaker8255
@undertaker8255 2 жыл бұрын
I have just brought a 2021 250fx what do u think of them
@martexmsi
@martexmsi 6 ай бұрын
is 2007 wr250f a good trail bike? or 2020 crf250f is a better choice? thx
@OrayngeDrank666
@OrayngeDrank666 6 ай бұрын
I have an 08 wr250f and highly recommend it. None of the issues the new wr250f has, although I'm sure a 2020 Honda would do great as well
@martexmsi
@martexmsi 6 ай бұрын
thank you for you reply
@jeandreolivier67
@jeandreolivier67 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you Im about to buy myself a yamaha YZ 250fx brand new bike but whould you prefer the WR 250f? Im bying it for a fun bike on the farm propably gonna take it to the track now and then and ride enduro so what bike do you prefer between the two?
@ashsowman
@ashsowman 2 жыл бұрын
FX
@jeandreolivier67
@jeandreolivier67 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashsowman thank you much appreciated for your feed back. Love your vidios!
@outfitr9703
@outfitr9703 2 жыл бұрын
That bike is almost as cool as my KTM.
@johnnyb8629
@johnnyb8629 2 жыл бұрын
so basically, if you want maximum fun and maximum mischief , turn it into a supermoto and proceed to get into police chases all over the city.
@tredogzs
@tredogzs 2 ай бұрын
excellence ❤
@محمدالنهدي-ش8و
@محمدالنهدي-ش8و 6 ай бұрын
ENGINE: ENGINE Liquid-cooled, DOHC, 4-valve (titanium🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👌👌👌)
@ax8038
@ax8038 2 жыл бұрын
yes its a beast, fix the exhaust and it wont die on you
@IRQ1Conflict
@IRQ1Conflict 2 жыл бұрын
Similar issues with the Honda 450l
@zxl1154
@zxl1154 Жыл бұрын
This guy looks like sammit
@TERMICOBRA
@TERMICOBRA 2 жыл бұрын
You described the CRF450RL perfectly. Everything from the twitchy throttle to the need of a heavier flywheel. These are the exact areas us noobish riders are addressing to tame the bike. You could literally do the same video and only change the bike and it would make total sense. Yet after all this I still 100% love this bike and it's totally worth dialing it in the way you want it without giving up the Japanese reliability that sold the bike to you in the first place. I imagine people who pull the trigger on the WR250F will feel the same way. Thanks Ash.
@torariders313
@torariders313 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t expecting this at all. Respect the honesty. Awesome video!
@sailor7557
@sailor7557 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I bought a 2022 TE250i instead of the WR250f which I was actually leaning towards but due to availability issues I ended up with the Husqvarna. After riding a 2003 525 EXC for almost 20 years I wasn’t too sure about going back to a 2 stroke but my new bike is absolute magic for a 65 year old veteran rider like me. It is fast, plush, has crazy good brakes and clutch, EFI with incredible range and no pre-mix to mess with, runs cool compared to my EXC and the list goes on and on. The WR250f looks very cool and I would have bought one if available but I found a place that was blowing out last years TE250i’s at a price comparable to the Yamaha so I pulled the trigger. Your video has confirmed my decision and I very much appreciate your insights and thoughtful comments. Greetings from Washington state USA.
@michaelburgin9211
@michaelburgin9211 Жыл бұрын
Hello from BC Canada, just north of you! I myself just bought a 2022 TE250i. I'm watching these videos for the fun of it, as my last bike was a 2009 YZ250, but I'm quite happy with my choice, the Husqvarna wasn't cheap but ever first ride of the season running with the boys, it didn't tire me out at all! Pretty fantastic machine, i just wish there wasn't so much white on it!
@MrClarkM
@MrClarkM 2 жыл бұрын
I agree , I have the same bike and it’s extremely hard to ride in slow technical type riding but does love the faster paced stuff , it’s a race bike and I wish it was a little more mellow like the older ones and with a little lower seat height .
@jvogler_art4708
@jvogler_art4708 2 жыл бұрын
I'm taller so i like the high seat height. I like that it comes out of the box very aggressive and i'm gonna wanna revalve the bike for my weight anyway. So really the only thing i'd have to do extra is a new flywheel. As someone torn between a 250 and a 450.. This did make the 250 more appealing to me. But i think the low end torque of the 450 is also very, very appealing. But it has a lot of top end i don't need and 20 something extra pounds of weight. I wish they made a 300 4 stroke for the perfect middle ground. But i agree, this bike kinda does come off like a watered down YZ250FX. I'm a diehard Honda and Yamaha fan, so buying a bike from one of those brands over something like KTM is a no brainer. The price point and available parts is just way better to me. I love the Japanese reliability, and i grew up riding hondas and yamahas so i'm loyal to those brands. It's a shame Honda discontinued it's XR line because i think if they really put effort into an XR400r in 2022 it would be an amazing machine and a good competitor to these WR's. The CRF 250F just seems so lackluster, I wanna see honda make an enduro/trail bike with a solid suspension setup like yamaha. i think the CRF250F is the kind of mellow bike people want though. Low seat too!
@hurt1704
@hurt1704 2 жыл бұрын
Are these wr250f’s not mellow like they were in 2006 and early years? That’s a bummer.. if I wanted a race bike, I’d buy a race bike
@MisterQ007
@MisterQ007 Жыл бұрын
@@hurt1704 I have an 2006 and 2023. definitely more aggressive than my old one
@hurt1704
@hurt1704 Жыл бұрын
@@MisterQ007 that’s a shame. They were such solid trail bikes before
@48jerrybiker
@48jerrybiker 4 ай бұрын
Definitely lower seat.
@gillesgenete9598
@gillesgenete9598 2 жыл бұрын
You showed exactly what I experienced with my 2017 WRF250: a motocross bike with lights. As I'm an average enduro rider, this bike was a pity for me. I sold it to a young fast rider who is so happy with. I'm now enjoying a KTM500EXCF that makes me a faster rider.
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
@gillesgenete9598
@gillesgenete9598 Жыл бұрын
@@georgihitrov the WRF range has allways be the race range at Yamaha. The racing performance was increased with the reverse engine ( inlet in front, exhaust at rear), I don't remember which year but before 2016 for sure. WRR is the trail range which replaced the TTR range.
@danieldigiuseppe7912
@danieldigiuseppe7912 Жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm very new to dirt bikes. I just bought a 2005 wr250f. I rode it through some nasty trails. And I like it a lot. How are you more comfortable on a 500? Wouldn't it be heavier and more powerful. Like more of a handful on trails?
@gillesgenete9598
@gillesgenete9598 Жыл бұрын
@@danieldigiuseppe7912 my KTM500EXCF is 10kg lighter than my former WRF250. Of course more power, 55hp instead of 35, true that 250 power is enough for any trail. The point is on a trail you ride the 500 at lower revs than a 250, thanks to more torque. That means less noise, easier riding, less gear change, and about the same gas consomption. Makes me more confident about reliability over long rides. On YT you may see guys having ridden their 500 over more than 100.000km fully loaded.
@22dagget
@22dagget 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this for half a decade now, the pre-EFI WR250F’s were a far better all around machine than these new ones...and more reliable to boot.
@christopherbrown1661
@christopherbrown1661 2 жыл бұрын
god damn not taking my 03 away neveerrrrr
@offroad8055
@offroad8055 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 04 that I’m hanging onto. Runs like a champ and doesn’t sound like a sewing machine👍
@booki-raw1065
@booki-raw1065 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I am after the 'old' WR - something soft, good for the weekend guy, no racing and just something to enjoy the trails on - what would you recommend?
@garthlundquist3623
@garthlundquist3623 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving a balanced review. These bikes are great for going fast, but work poorly for hard technical riding. As a long time Yamaha fan I just can’t understand why they have refused to develop suitable hard enduro models. Their best effort, the YZ 250X, is a mild update of a 20 year old design, but lacks a 6th gear, electric start, or adequate electrical power for lights. E start saves the technical rider tons of energy in the tough sections, and likewise makes turning off the motor a non issue when riding with friends. Yamaha was known for innovation. What happened?
@dds272
@dds272 2 жыл бұрын
I started watching this, and at first i thought this was just gonna be the typical Biased WR250F is the best review. But i continued watching, and by the end, i was in full agreement. I Love enduro motorcycles , and enjoyed riding WRs alot, But that was before they felt like a MX bike. Well put together review, unbiased. Pointing out its Benefits, which i agree with. But, one thing i look for is the flaws, to see if people felt what i felt. And I 100% agree. You've earnt a new subscriber 🤘
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels 2 жыл бұрын
GYTR computer and soft sidewall tires (Starcross 5s) really broaden it's abilities.
@bradmatthews3822
@bradmatthews3822 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, i think you saved me from a 15k mistake
@rayoss232
@rayoss232 2 жыл бұрын
You're a dead set flog.......KTM have all those bits for years, and guess what, they win most world titles, and with all the Gear Yamaha doesn't have the KTM's are still a shit tonne lighter
@adzythepwcblokeinaustralia5467
@adzythepwcblokeinaustralia5467 2 жыл бұрын
You need to set it up a bit more ! Wind the High speed compression damping right off on the shock , wind the fork compression off 4 clicks and wind in 2 more clicks on the fork rebound ! Ride it again with 105mm of sag and re evalute the suspension . A Rekluse Radius CX clutch makes it easy ! My 2021 WR250F is the best bike ive ever ridden , Im a retired Pro level enduro rider in Australia . regards Adam Troy
@heavensplayer
@heavensplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I have this bike too but I’m honestly so confused as to what you said? I’m sort of a beginner , do you have somewhere I can research to understand all of what you said? Lol
@rodjbosch
@rodjbosch 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting....I've got a 17 250FX. Bought a used programmer and tweeked tuning a bit,now it's just about the perfect bike for literally anything from moto(I'm no pro) to extreme singletrack.(Rocky mountains of Canada has nasty,flowy and everything in between) Besides protection they only thing not stock is an inch lower seat. Suspension is good enough with clicker adjustments for everything...and quite frankly the best suspension I've had on an off roader. I rarely ever stall the bike. Bike revs to the moon and ive never thought I didn't have enough power. I honestly can't find much bad to say about the 250FX (tho I hear the newest edition is a bit different). I got it for dirt cheap pre covid....and currently don't think there's another bike I'd want.....especially with the price of bikes nowadays.
@Surrender2TheFlow
@Surrender2TheFlow 2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha couldn't be anymore confusing with all these models. I love Yamaha but trying to pick apartment all the different models is just not an easy thing to do.
@danielg2754
@danielg2754 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos and honesty. So what else would one need to get the WR250F to be enduro friendly? Do you have a video? Also anyone have ideas as to what the 2023 WR250F will be like? Thanks
@محمدالنهدي-ش8و
@محمدالنهدي-ش8و 6 ай бұрын
wr 250 it's 6 speed🔥👍 wr 450 it's 5speed😑😷🤢
@endurotruckererniedesjardins
@endurotruckererniedesjardins 2 жыл бұрын
YAMAHA NEEDS A 2 STROKE VERSION.... with E start
@ashleylyle9337
@ashleylyle9337 2 жыл бұрын
Ash I challenge you to buy a TTR 250 THE BEST trail/enjuro bike out the also the most popular low dollar adventure bike, it dose look after you, and goes well up high in the middle and down low give one a go maybe build one up on the channel, I currently ride a 2005 model I scored with only 420km on it ya you herd right a freashie you can't beat a REAL trail bike wr250 won't go where my old TTR 250 will mark my words bro its a bloody mountain goat lol..
@highlandcycles
@highlandcycles 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man! I love Yamaha so much
@chrispewkreme
@chrispewkreme Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE for Yamaha to make a WR300R, X, and F. Little torqueier down low. I think a vast majority of riders could use a tame 250 with low end torque to just cruise on trails but send it hard if needed. I’d also love Yamaha to develop some new 2 strokes. As I’ve always had my eye on the KTM300
@georgihitrov
@georgihitrov Жыл бұрын
From which year does the wr250f become more race-oriented and lose the "plush" trail characteristic?
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