The Year Of Punk Documentary London Weekend Television 01/01/78

The Year Of Punk Janet Street Porter Reviews The Year Of Punk, A LWT Documentary Broadcast On 01/01/78 Featuring Early Classic Footage Of The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Siouxsie And Others

[@Sameoldfitup]

“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams

[@lynnnleistinger8226]

I do know what's you mean..things tend to look better in hind sight..when your going through it it hard to detach yourself. That's why you have friends

[@jenny2tone242]

Deep

[@lucasroche8639]

I'd never read any Tennessee Williams, thank you, it's always nice to find something new.

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Interesting !

[@Inbaroush]

Perfect.

[@millionseller001]

Good to see a Punk documentary that was actually made in the era instead of some silly presenter nowadays who wasnt even there telling us all how 'bad'it all was..tv and radio bypass punk as though it never happened.thanks for posting..happy days.

[@thomasandersen6719]

everything after 1976 is not punk (early pistols, clash and the Damned)....1977 was just a shit load of crap bands hanging on to a fashion....to me punk ended new years eve 1976...early Pistols, early Clash, the Damned, Kilburn and the high roads, Eddie and the Hot Rods and Dr. Feelgood....that's it.......do I have to name all those crappy hangers on in 1977?

[@thomasandersen6719]

@Bob Freak I have no idea what that even means

[@theobjectivethinker64]

@@thomasandersen6719 ...and the Stranglers who were gigging throughout 1976 and were very much part of Punk to begin with.

[@thomasandersen6719]

@@theobjectivethinker64 Stranglers were never embraced by the so called punk movement...they were just too old...their drummer was 40 when their first album was released in 1977. Hugh was in a band in the mid 60s with Richard Thompson from Fairport Convention....Stranglers were never ever part of punk to begin with and never embraced...as I said...their drummer was 40 in 1977....he was old enough to be the dad of some of the earliest punks in London in 1976

[@theobjectivethinker64]

@@thomasandersen6719 That's not strictly true, it became the reason, but initially they were embraced, but infighting incidents like Dingwalls 1976 between the Clash and the Pistols at a Remones gig and the Stranglers stance very quickly ostracised them from there comtemporories. I am referring to the early beginninings late 1975 early 1976 before PUNK became mainsteam and the new orthodoxy and rules developed. I am talking when Strummer was in the 101,ers and The pistols were going to see the stranglers.

[@adam4-dotz349]

Remember watching this @ the start of 1978 and saw Siouxsie performing the Lord's Prayer over the closing credits.....I was hooked!! The Banshees have been my favourite band ever since....,Thanks for downloading....Respect due from an Old Goth....

[@sophiew1967]

I saw the Banshees a few times myself including that amazing 1985 Peepshow tour when Siouxie did the whole tour with her leg in paster to the hip..she still looked like a goddess! I occasionally talk to Steven Severin on his KZbin channel he's pretty up for talking to fans .

[@jamesguy1030]

Sophie W ~ Yeah, The Punk Rock Movement & The Hard Rock Scene have got a lot in common with their aggressive & violence style of music. Lemmy & Motörhead used to be covered in Nazi memorabilia, hats, iron crosses, patches, etc. Siouxsie & The Banshees is Pictured with the Luftwaffe Eagle & swastika patch on her black shirt. Like Lemmy Said = “The Bad Guys throughout history always had the best uniforms, when you think about it. . . . They were the Rock Stars of their day” This was to inspire a Generation of Young people to get off their arses & make something interesting happen. One of these young men featured in this classic documentary is a man called Ian Stuart. Ian Stuart, Like so many young men dreamed of a career in Rock ‘n’ Roll but when in 1977 he formed Skrewdriver, A Punk Group Based in North West England, No one could have predicted the rollercoaster ride that he was about to endure. So with two singles and an album recorded Skrewdriver were heading for the dizzy heights of rock stardom, But when their concerts became battlegrounds & gained the band a reputation that saw them Banned from London venues, Disowned by their record label and slaughtered in the mainstream music press most people would have put it down to experience & shuffled off into a Dystopian day Job. it is testament to the resilience of Ian Stuart that against all the staggering odds he refused to be defeated. This is well documented in the fascinating book called = “The Ian Stuart - Skrewdriver Biography” This Records the historical journey that started as a highly rated punk vocalist mixing with the Likes of ~ The Sex Pistols, Bob Geldof, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Motörhead, Iggy Pop, Sham69, Sting from the police, & Suggs From Madness. Right the way thru to National Front Demonstrators, British Movement Marches, Ku Klux Klan Leaders in the US, & Top Skinhead Recruits for the Blood & Honour Organisation that he founded back in 1987. The Record Shops refused to sell his albums, Yet they sold thousands, His Concerts were starved of any publicity, Yet even his enemies would admit that he could easily fill venues as big as the Royal Albert Hall. This Remarkable in-depth story traces his early beginnings in Blackpool through to his Murder as a National Socialist & Skinhead Legend in 1993. Yeah, we’ve all heard stories about rebellious Punk Rock Stars, but this is a Truly unique account of a Rebel with a Cause. & one who lived through the Pain, Pressure & Patriotic Pride that was his Life. Even if you Revile this Rock Movement, it’s ideas, it’s Music, This is an interesting & important piece of Social & Youth Culture History. (it’s also available on video footage)

[@saraenneking4652]

They destroyed disco

[@atis9061]

@@saraenneking4652 it deserved to die

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

She STILL looks good too, all these years later. 🖤

[@edwardbliss8931]

We are in need of another music revolution like punk. Now. Anything with that same "fuck the mainstream, kill the music industry" spirit.

[@TravisBickle1963]

+Edward Bliss Too Right Pop Stars dressed like country gents complete with flat caps and beards and playing folky/acoustic twaddle reminds me of the 70's country rock era exactly the reason punk happened

[@jvnkhartskrewedgod4782]

FVCK YEAH WE DO!!!!!

[@thebanbablues]

devolved*

[@AlexanderLaurence]

what industry? Punk wasn't so much anti mainstream, it was a counter culture movement.

[@misternice4667]

agreed

[@philipsymonds4016]

Best 5 years of my life punk!!77 to 82.loved it,miss it.

[@sophiew1967]

Well theres some amazing punk bands still out there..check out Viagra Boys & my own personal favourite from Australia ..Amyl & The Sniffers with the incredible Amy Taylor..theres some great music out there & a lot being made by older people like us too like Nottigham's Sleaford Mods...eve n Iggy Pop is covering a few of their tracks !

[@seansands424]

It was great, miss it

[@jamesguy1030]

sean sands ~ Yeah, if you Don’t already know, The Punk Lead Singer on the Stage slagging off the Teds after getting their gear smashed up, Was an amazing Punk by the name of Ian Stuart. & i must say, his story is a Truly unique account of a Rebel with a Cause. The first concept of Skrewdriver was way back in 1975, When Ian Stuart formed a band calling itself “TUMBLING DiCE” The band mainly played cover versions of songs by the Rolling Stones & The Who. But in May ‘77 the band changed their name to Skrewdriver & had started to write their own material. Soon afterwards the single “ANTISOCIAL” was released at the end of 1977 & featured live in this amazing documentary by LWT Now Skrewdriver Took a major image change dropping their Punk look & becoming a Skinhead Band. Their debut L.P “All Skrewed Up” was Soon to follow. Becoming Skinheads did nothing to improve their image with the music press, Who labelled Skrewdriver fans as Thugs & National Front Supporters. The mainstream media then called upon Skrewdriver & Sham69 to Denounce their Patriotic followers, Jimmy Percy & Sham69 quickly agreed & then became really big. of course Skrewdriver declined & the press declared war against them. With a Complete ban on advertising & gigs becoming harder & harder to find the band called it a day in 1978. Skrewdriver reformed in 1979 with a new guitarist and a new drummer, they promptly released the “Built up knocked Down E.P” Once again the advertising ban & the constant attention from the mainstream media led to the band splitting again in 1980. This is where the in-depth story should end but at the end of 1981 Ian Stuart moved to London & formed yet another Line up. This Time around the band members were a lot more clued up on what kind of reception to expect. & they set about building the Skrewdriver following with a-vengeance. in early 1982 they released the 12” Called “BACK WITH A BANG” & then two tracks for the United Skins Compilation namely “ANTISOCIAL” and “BOOTS & BRACES” So after years of backstabbing & name calling by the mainstream music press, SKREWDRIVER Now decided to get straight to the point & prove that all the Rumours were were actually true. SKREWDRIVER were Truly a Patriotic National Front Band & they were bloody proud of it. However, this Remarkable Story ended with the Murder of Ian Stuart as a National Socialist & Skinhead Legend in 1993.

[@Essexgeezer]

@@jamesguy1030I consider myself extremely lucky to have seen Ian,Kev,Grinny and Phil at the Marquee in 1977.The band Chelsea were on too and were boring.The place was full of Scotland fans,I think they played England at Wembley that day.I was 14.

[@TheHalloweenmasks]

I have always liked punk, it has something that other music doesn't have.

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Spirit.

[@thetriumphofthethrill2457]

Good and important documentary from the time. It's nice to see all of those who are now legends during their early days.

[@leezeppelin48]

"All"??

[@akatripclaymore.9679]

Thanx for the Vid, Travis B. I was born in "64"👍🤜🤛

[@andersonpessoa1671]

39:57 First time I see Siouxsie Sioux smiling, how charming she is!

[@sophiew1967]

Thanks for this Mr Taxi Driver 🚕 takes me back to being 12 yrs old in the late 70' s & throwing myself round in front of my mum's old black & white tv when the Old Grey Whistle Test or Tony Wilson was promoting punk & new wave bands on Granada Reports..what a great time in British mudic !👍

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Haha! Are you talking to ME?! 😅 I like how you noticed the name too.

[@jonblazeinc]

Good to see stranglers mentioned in this even back then. ....The media likes to discard them out the movement

[@katieandrew2719]

I agree!

[@jonblazeinc]

Thomas Andersen the rest of the band were in their late 20s back in 77 only jet was in his 30s then. but yes they were almost 10 years older than the other punk bands then

[@Stranglerxx77]

The stranglers were amazing live ( I was 14 in 77 ) and saw em alot 78 _ 82 , Also the clash were as good live J J and Hugh were 25 in 77 .

[@sfbunnyman]

ZERO XX77. i saw Hugh Cornwell in San Francisco the last three times he toured. Interesting hearing Stranglers songs played by a three piece band. He was cool and took the time to chat with fans after the show.

[@christo792]

The Stranglers had an interesting history. They were formed in 1974 by Jet Black, the drummer, who was then in his mid-thirties. They were called The Guildford Stranglers. They were a pub rock band, playing music influenced by psychadelic rock bands such as The Doors and The Music Machine. They managed to get opening sets for The Ramones and Patti Smith, which brought them into Punk. Hugh Cornwell was a Blues musician, Burnell had been a classical guitarist and had performed with symphony orchestras. Jet Black had been a Jazz drummer and Dave greenfield had played at military bases in Germany. This explains why they had a totally different sound to the rest of the bands in the late 70s.

[@gustavnovak]

Time may change me but I can't trace time...still a punkrocker ! 👍🖖🤙🏻📢🎼🎵🎶🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

[@Paulvon128]

I lived this era. It was crazy but fun

[@lynnnleistinger8226]

I'm 60 I fell for mainly British first wave I was 14 in 1977 prime Punk saved Britan .

[@fabiopunk1661]

the value of this doc is that was actually shot at that time, and it still sounds so fresh

[@theshamanarchist5441]

Fresh turd.

[@Kblog777]

Wow this is very insightful and almost retrospective considering it was at its peak when this documentary was made.

[@pigknickers]

Overall you've just got to say, better days. The people were sweet even if we thought they were orrible at the time. And no it can't happen again we have to accept our fate.

[@zellah]

Where are The Damned? You know, the band who released the FIRST punk single out of the London scene. GRRRRR

[@gcf7175]

+Maureen Sullivan You're lookin for the bofa dees?

[@zellah]

+Genuine Chocolate Face Say what?

[@gcf7175]

+Maureen Sullivan THE BOFA DEEZ NUTS! Ha ! got em!

[@spikesification]

Probably in the u.s again... First punk band to tour there as well....

[@thedamnedrose6665]

My thought exactly maureeeeeeen! 😘😘😘

[@garystones9446]

I'm glad to say Westwood never made a penny out of me, made me own till the end.

[@deanpd3402]

Punk is the same value system as that of Crowley. The spirit and world view that he embodied. That same value has echoed throughout the decades. Though changing its tones here and changing its wardrobe and tempo there. It has always remained, lingered, festered even. It has grown on the back of society like a wicked fungus, as we now find ourselves in the dead centre of a new age and aeon of Horus.

[@MrUndersolo]

Still makes me laugh when I think about how silly the British public responded to punk. "First they hate you, then they ignore you, then they win" - paraphrasing Gandhi there, but that is pretty much what happened. Man, we need this again...

[@lucasroche8639]

We used to go to Sedetionaries to buy our ...badges. If one of us was lucky it was because of saving up for a bum-flap or an armband, if it was Christmas maybe a T-shirt, no one could afford Sedentariness back then. So whenever you hear the old "what did Malcolm do with all the money?" Know that the answer is "keeping that shop open". 😄 Punx not dead.

[@jonnyzchivago7623]

Its hilarious how the posh kids involved tried to sound thick and talk with a street accent. Strummer,and Don Letts(the posh rasta)are the funniest. I noticed how Sid Vicious sounded like a well-spoken chap until he got the 'bass Player' slot in the pistols. Also funny was Simonen talking about his mates all working in the factory......was there an art school called the factory near where he lived?

[@ChrisCrossClash]

posh kids? Joe was 25 in 77 would have been called an old man in the punk days at that age.

[@Kblog777]

Jonny Zchivago Punk was fake tho. It was like grunge in the 90s, rich kids pretending to be poor and street.

[@lemsip207]

Back then even working class people sounded posh compared to now.

[@Heatfarmer]

Uhh, so only working class kids should be punks or whats the fucking point?

[@gavinreid5387]

Strummer was from a rich family and went to a posh boarding school. Mockney accent.

[@prschuster]

Some of the best years of my life

[@IssyHowlter]

best punk documentary ive seen

[@lucatricky1457]

R.i.P. Jordan queen of punk

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Yeah, she was SOMETHIN ELSE!!! Beautifull person she was too. An ICON. 🖤

[@hgreen8666]

.. RIP Jordan, Debbie and Tracie. All gone and too young .

[@andysandel9325]

Fantastic Documentary So Great To Watch It Again, Thank You TravisBickle1 For Sharing With Us📎🔗🔒

[@Kblog777]

Sounds that Janet Street Porter doing the narration. The way she's speaking gives the impression that it's 2008 not 1978.

[@jagmarc]

What you see and hear here is about as close as you'll ever get to a primary source of how London was 1976-77

[@daryuskobra669]

siouxsie sioux looked pretty cool, even in her younger days

[@hgreen8666]

She did she always has looked awesome but she looks great now, old, as she is.

[@dirtydave2691]

Chaz Chandler put it best, "Its rock and roll its fun".

[@emily.toombs]

I saw Siouxsie live last May and let me tell you, she’s still just as beautiful and amazing 💜

[@libertine40]

I was 15 when Punk hit NY hard in 1975 and I gravitated towards it because it was an inclusive bunch of folks. There was no such thing as a Afro Punk or Asian Punk - you were just a Punk. The music was of the hook too - nothing like it then or since. It had been percolating since 1971 and hit its apex around '77. Unfortunately, by the early 1980s, Punk was ruined by arrogant execs like that pr$k from CBS Records. That's why the Sex Pistols excited stage left. Next thing we knew bands like The Police were considered Punk. Heck, I looove them yet there are NOT Punk. It's the age old story: nobody can be bothered until the opportunity to make money arises.

[@roadkilldemon1174]

Ya whit? I hardly think that ace 80s punk bands like Discharge, The Exploited and Amebix could be lumped in with The Police. Punk never died- it just burrowed back into the underground and became an altogether meaner and nastier beastie! :) There were plenty superb American punk bands doing well in the 80s too- Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, to name just two of the bigger ones. There's definitely some crackin' punk to come out of the 80s, mate.

[@libertine40]

+NightWolf Bingo!

[@libertine40]

+Roadkill Demon I agree brother! It did go underground and I was glad when it did, lol. In the states we had MC5, Iggy and the Stooges, Kennedy's - as to said. Out of that backlash came Joan Jett, Twisted Sister and the like. It's still evolving to this day, like HipHop, which took a similar path as Punk with the record execs and got hijacked by Rap. These days the best music can be found by individuals producing their own stuff and distributing it online at these various music social networking sites...like UTube. LoL. The radio is whack and completely out of touch with American youth. How's radio where you're at?

[@libertine40]

+James Morris I have NO problem with hardcore and didn't intend any thing malicious in not including it. I'm just a human being who makes mistakes, lol. Add on brother, by all means...

[@libertine40]

+James Morris Too true...stereotyping is a total drag - besides being completely ignorant.

[@pena.3302]

Wow Bowie made Station to Station.b4 all this released.76.Great lp.then off to berlin.w/-Ig..cool times.! "Im a Dog That never dies"..jim n osterberg.

[@filipematias5127]

Great documentary though... Thanks for posting this video!

[@ruiraiox-pontoscardeais9917]

LOVE THIS--- EU VI OS THE CLASH AO VIVO EM CASCAIS, LISBOA 1984

[@thecitizenjoan]

Walking down to kings road I see so many faces

[@godstomper]

I remember when san Francisco and the bay area was a epicenter of the punk culture in the states back in the 80s. Remind you i was about 7 or 8 when it got huge. Then the thrash metal scene in the bay area got huge with death angel, exodus, heathen testament metallica . amazing times

[@ernestomercedes5754]

this documentary is really great

[@vv247]

I didn't know Mensi passed ... fu ! thats a massive loss.

[@jamesconnolly5969]

This year is the 40th anniversary of punk and Vivien Westwood and Malcolm McLaren's son are Having a Huge Bonfire and burning everything Punk, because its not rebellious and doesn't stand for anything anymore and is excepted even by the queen

[@jessmorey9719]

That’s really sad I wish they could bring punk back because the 70s and 80s are my favourite era 🤘🏻

[@donnablackman3954]

Hard era good music ❤

[@Sameoldfitup]

Brings back memories, but I lived a sheltered youth in a children's home.

[@sergeantcrow]

Excellent.... Thanks !

[@billcaputo2005]

What Siouxie and The banshees song is she singing at the end credits????????

[@TravisBickle1963]

A Very early version of the 'Lords Prayer.

[@billcaputo2005]

@@TravisBickle1963 thank you so much!

[@bluesborn]

1967:The Summer of Love 1977:The Summer of Hate

[@TravisBickle1963]

There was A lot of anger but... The only hate I remember was toward the punks not from... Summer of fun for me :)

[@pinkfloyd870]

@@TravisBickle1963 true... the hate was all from the mainstream. Cops were horrendous, but that just made it dangerous and exciting.

[@christinacolasanto530]

Loved this very enjoyable.

[@SoulOfTheReaver]

Siouxsie turned out alright :P

[@akatripclaymore.9679]

The Ramones were a big part of the Punk Rebellion! Thank God for Punk Rocker's.. Anything but the Bee Gee's, KC & the Sunshine Band, The Carpenter's..OMFG🙄 "DISCO SUCK'S " Perpetually! "Rat Scabies" Mum, how cool is that? Love (The Damned) & Skrewdriver, God Ian Stewart was so young!

[@habovay3]

If the original air date of this documentary was indeed 1/1/78, ironic that it was just days prior to the Pistols' ill-fated North American debut.

[@Rugmunchersauce3]

Ironic or just interesting...?🤔

[@djinnmagik2003]

How've you been Travis? 😁 Are you still driving a taxi in NYC!? 😁 I enjoyed your punk rock video. I remember when you used to have that wicked mohawk back in the day 😁

[@flux928]

Siouxsie made good after all.

[@WillBabitt]

Old Huddersfield punk enjoying this content. Still punk af

[@deceptivepanther]

Brilliant.

[@danielaschwarz1971]

I must agree,I love Punks Documentary,The Sex Pistols,Joe Strummer,Siouxsie and much more...

[@MrSchmolko]

sid vicious on drums...later he found that he was even better playing the bass :-)

[@Heatfarmer]

Hahaha

[@kaori_kanzaki]

Lmaooo

[@hgreen8666]

Good ol Sid.

[@TomTremayne]

Street Porter had noticed punk's contradictions early on & well done to her for doing so. For me an interesting character in this doco' is Helen Bullen. She appears in the first Wednesday night at the Roxy sequence at 15:57 & then again in the crowd at 22:30, shot by Don Letts when her son's playing in Eater. She's there again during the interview at 22:37 & each time is wearing different clothes so was clearly a regular, or semi-regular, at the club & whilst she appears not to be a punk herself, in her scrap book photo she's wearing a 'Max's Kansas City' t-shirt long before they were available in the UK!? Wonder what her story was.......is she still alive?

[@bonnieburton7484]

Right on do what you want do you know punk rock is actually cool there’s a lot worse going on in this world love it theMusic

[@combatgirl38]

"Rules of punk" is the very definition of contradiction of terms. This is why not needing or giving a fuck about labels is the best way to live freely without inhibition.

[@qw128386]

what band is playing at 18 minutes in??

[@adrianclarke1339]

The Bears - playing Insane. The lead singer in the programme was Mick North, who died in a motorbike accident some 3 months before the programme was aired.

[@lindaymohegan3529]

Who is the band at 20 minutes? She said The Burrs? The Birds? From Rockford? From Woford? I have no idea. They rule and I want to know who they are. Does anyone know at all? There's absolutely nothing in the credits about the bands. I cannot understand her accent either, if it's the burrs or the birds. ahhhhh. Let me know someone, please.

[@lexusdav]

try shazam the sound if possible ?

[@TravisBickle1963]

The Bears

[@gazriley624]

Look up The Bears - on me 7" it's on youtube

[@clumpft]

nah, melodic bass sounds shit in punk music.

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

It sounds like a combination of Dead Boys and Flipper with screamo vocals

[@w.g.hunter1300]

Note the letter to Mark Perry from Cabaret Voltaire at 39:25, asking for the return of their demo!

[@Cires789]

As a cabs fan, that tickled me too.

[@WOLFanddBEAR]

18 mins the who? From Watford, sounds awesome

[@TravisBickle1963]

The Bears

[@WOLFanddBEAR]

TravisBickle1963 Thank you my friend, gonna check them out...

[@garycollingwood4002]

💙 VIRGIN LISTENING AND WATCHING 💙

[@JRStephens5005]

Vivienne Westwood was right when she said that British craftsmen should be making the garments, instead of foreigners. Same as today in America. It's a shame that all of our clothes are made overseas instead of America.

[@christo792]

Cheaper labour.

[@devadvogrba]

At first it seemed hard to figure out how your sub-intelligent insinuation failed to collect any response, but on second thought, the mindless are rearing their empty head again and are the thing of the future. Crying shame. There are documentaries here, however, about the neo-nazi tendencies back in the punk era and you should check them out if nothing else than to see whose brainchild your failed attempt at thinking is and how suchlike mindless craps got to be ridiculed by the civilized, and will be so again, to be sure. Just who do you think is to blame for the labour export? Who profits from it? And who suffers; is it just the Brits/Americans or the horribly exploited labourers in the overseas sweatshops? Do some reading prior to writing, you really have nothing to say.

[@christo792]

Deva Dvogrba Education is a wonderful thing. You should try it sometime. You know how to put words into a sentence, but seem to forget that that a sentence should make sense. Neo-nazi tendencies in the Punk era? 'Brainchild your failed attempt at thinking is...'!?! And other assorted gibberish, none of which has anything to do with the fact that the reason clothng and other goods are made abroad is that working conditions and wage rates which would be totally unacceptable in Britain or the US are acceptable in other countries. Which is nothing to do with neo-nazi tendencies, or, to quote you, 'suchlike mindless craps got to be ridiculed by the civilized, and will be so again, to be sure.' Whatever that means.

[@jagmarc]

I so agree with you, but something my friend who owns a hat manufacture business told me, that in even where she is in Luton a hat-making centre of excellence, that she now gets them instead made in China and she says they are much better made there than they ever were in England. But Punk wouldn't happen in China

[@hazelwray4184]

Petit bourgeois pipe dream

[@oliviolanza1933]

Siouxsie is soooo cute🥰

[@TheSanchoPancha]

that was a great time

[@Scotty-P]

When did the term 'Punk', actually begin being used in London, and who did so?

[@Aurora2097]

Diverging statements. John Lydon claims they were just "Working class rocknroll" until an article written by Caroline Coon mashed them up with New York bands like the Ramones. Steve Jones however stated once Punk was not a new term, he was insulted as Punk when he was just a boy.

[@hauntedtown]

Holy shit Ian Stuart at 2am nice 👍

[@karlclarke]

success kills every great subculture movement, punk/ Mod/ rockers etc.. starts of by working class kids, gets popular, then rich kids jump on it and kills it. Vivienne westwood, malcolm mclaren destroyed punk.

[@christo792]

Not forgetting that it was McLaren who brought punk to Britain from the US. He was manager of the New York Dolls for a short time, and saw them play many times. Combined with seeing the Stooges, the Ramones and other US bands, he came back to Britain, found Paul Cook and Steve Jones, and set up the Sex Pistols.

[@christo792]

***** Exactly. McLaren went to America and saw something going on which was exciting and accessible. He went to CBGBs and saw young people having the time of their lives. A session fueled by speed and cheap lager, not cocaine and cocktails. In Britain, Bohemian Rhapsody was the flavour, which may have it's merits, but isn't fun or exciting. McLaren saw music that could be played and sung by anybody, which led to the oft-quoted cover of Sniffin' Glue, 'Here's three chords, now form a band.' And it worked. The Sex Pistols were formed in the shop owned by Mc and Vivienne Westwood, played gigs, and were extremely influential. British punk then took on it's own flavour, different from the original. Politics were brought in to the lyrics. With Matlock gone/sacked, Lydon gone, Sid dead, McLaren went back to America to find a new flavour. He found Hip Hop, brought it back to Britain, released a couple of singles under his own name, and made some cash from them. In America, Hip Hop morphed into Rap, and became very popular. So, as you said, McLaren came in at the right time, but credit to him for spotting something that would be popular and sell. That's not easy to do.

[@kristiangunn]

McLaren and Westwood brought the Sex Pistols into the public eye, which in turn created the punk movement in the U.K. You could argue that the Sex Pistols were as manufactured as The Monkees. Despite being a pair of complete arses, it's a bit harsh of accusing them of destroying something they actually helped create

[@christo792]

More than harsh. Without them, British punk, (which might have happened anyway), would probably have been something different. There's a good chance it would have been wasted rock, like the Ramones. As it was, bands such as Crass brought politics into it. They came after the Sex Pistols, and might not have come up without them.

[@kenmills30]

It was initially a clash of middle class arty avant garde meeting disaffected urban working class youth at a time when violence hung in the air like a smog. I became a teenager in 76 and remember all the flared trousered bovver booted youths being in a state of virtual anarchy like never before or after, the kids today are basically a bunch of surly well-fed mummies boys with a regimented controlled easily diffusable violence but I remember a kind of mass psychopathy in the deprived youth of the 70s which reached a peak about 1975. It was like Clockwork Orange, like a pressure cooker about to explode. What McLaren and Westwood did is bring their art school imaginations together with that energy and probably saved society from something more extreme with all the right wing political movements gathering momentum in the mid-70s and the economic decline and apathy creating a volatile atmosphere. I don't think there would have been punk as we knew it at all if McLaren hadn't come across a uniquely intelligent working class young man named John Lydon. Most working class kids then were thick as shit though they were individualistic unlike today and I don't think McLaren could have done shit without Lydon, he was like the spark that ignited this whole thing into a unique chemistry, like a new element being found. Without Lydon taking McLaren's vision into unchartered waters punk would have either been nothing but some arty extension of glam rock or a bunch of seedy pretentious New York style poseurs. Or just Cook/Jones/Matlock and some dim-witted singer making Brit Yob rock, a second rate Eddie and The Hot Rods in King's Rd fashionable anti-fashion outfits.

[@JoshuaCraigStrain]

Well orchestrated .

[@prizramirez2075]

Wow looking at the shop the woman from her shop , her shop really reminds me of a oldschool kind of" hot topic " or spensters 😅

[@aotctd]

lol The raiders

[@hansmoser989]

saw johnny moped two months ago, strange... h.m.

[@hubertvancalenbergh9022]

. . . and a thousand useless guitarists . . . Luckily we had Siouxsie . . .

[@FranciscoLopez-uk2hl]

does someone have the play list to all the songs ?

[@sophierin4943]

The damned are again not mentioned eventhough they brought out the first punk album in the UK.. very strange how they get ignored every time.

[@roncopresents]

The Damned never allowed people to film them for free because of their manager Jake being a greedy sod. That's why there's so little footage of the damned from those days compared to other bands who had the foresight to let people film them or filmed themselves.

[@sophierin4943]

@@roncopresents Thank you for the information. That explains a lot. It's very unfortunate.

[@Jambi2435]

They were also bannned from TV appearances for the second half of 1977 by the technicians union after their appearance on Blast Off as Rat and Captain brought air rifles and were shooting the camermen on the bum with them, so I wonder if that is why they weren't featured here. A real shame.

[@hgreen8666]

@@Jambi2435lol that sounds so funny 😂

[@FiveLiver]

26:36 Screwdriver

[@hgreen8666]

Brilliant just bloody brilliant I hate authorities and their shit what we need today is more of this stuff and less of the trendy mainstream Kardashian’s shit.

[@patrickspeer2990]

I was there, but only a wee little man, I was born 1969, first grade for me was the BiCentennial Year in the USA, 1976. I though Punk started in England, but some say the US. I always thought it wasnt music but social outcry and rebellion, against everything, rejection of everything, music was just the medium, similarly to early Rap. Rap wasnt music, it was rapping about society.

[@GaryDGuitar]

34:20, that lady is worth about $50,000,000 nowadays.

[@spacebar8882]

Well she’s dead now : (

[@operassiondragon5409]

Como se llama la banda del de anteojos con remera amarilla?

[@TravisBickle1963]

Timestamp?

[@operassiondragon5409]

@@TravisBickle1963 THE BEARS IS THE BAND

[@laneylazarus207]

Guys this type of movement is going on right now though!! but with filmmakers, PUNK CINEMA check out Anarchy In The UK: The New Underground Cinema Movement

[@nmacog]

is that Joolz Denby at 11:13 ?

[@comedyworldofficial]

New Years Day 1978

[@frozenice61]

danny baker editor of sniffing glue mag

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

"Sniffing Glue Magazine", lmao..

[@sketch591]

Sid Vicious on drums ......crazy days indeed.

[@shannonmarie2417]

sketch591 kinda makes u wonder would things have turned out the same if he had remained with her and not joined the sex pistols..and met nancy

[@hgreen8666]

@@shannonmarie2417might be alive today had he taken the different path.

[@HoundTO]

I have nothing of value to add to this conversation

[@CarlosMiguelDominguesros-mm8zy]

4 m ,was the best year

[@TERRANOVAofficial]

young don letts!

[@cristiandlf6704]

Was great to saw Skrewdriver in this documentary 👍🏻

[@philpatton5652]

It was brilliant in the early 80d with bands like crassn conflict n discharge

[@lauralewis673]

Again, where are The Damned? First punk band to put out a single - "New Rose"... Hello???

[@julosx]

Not to mention Wire…

[@lesleycroney8918]

At about 1 minute in its meeee😊

[@FiveLiver]

29:47 Danny Baker in the 'Sniffin' Glue' office.

[@FiveLiver]

34:04 Vivienne Westwood at Seditionaries.

[@monstergod888]

The best thing about this documentary is that they didn't even mentioned Sid Vicious,maybe he was still playing with Siouxie but it was 1978 so i'm confused,anyway,i hate Sid and his pathetic presence in punk rock history!

[@annetteweatherman8157]

well you're an idiot then because Sid was a part of the real thing and he's sticking around.

[@kenshiroFNS]

He was mentioned lol

[@gavinreid5387]

@@annetteweatherman8157 hardly anyone mentioned him until his arrest and death. Just a punk caricature.

[@annetta7]

@@gavinreid5387 you don't know what you're talking about

[@hgreen8666]

You hate on a dead kid who died like over forty years agO? Get over it.

[@Sameoldfitup]

It's youth culture that's all...........

[@BenjaminBowling777]

Wow. I was still in my mother's womb until April of '78 when this documentary was shown. Now 44 going on 45.

[@theshamanarchist5441]

No one cares.

[@nasdkhan254]

​@@theshamanarchist5441same here.

[@miggy999]

OMG .. its Danny Baker at 31 minutes !!

[@viktorkovalchuk]

That song by the bears is so so ahead of it’s time… proto grunge and emo

[@viktorkovalchuk]

Grunge and emo have their roots in punk/hardcore, so….

[@viktorkovalchuk]

@ciao214Z I should clarify, when I said grunge, I meant nirvana

[@deanna5853]

What’s the name of the song?

[@daregorton8359]

I love how the presenter isn't demeaning to the bands and fans involved. if they made this now, it would be preachy a.f.

[@markbarker6739]

Janet Street porter she was really into punk and the music scene

[@jagmarc]

@@markbarker6739 What a coincidence. You and I share the same name. And I was about to write what you wrote about J S-P too. For a moment I had to check your YT channel to make sure

[@annetta7]

@@markbarker6739 No she wasn't, you're completely wrong

[@markbarker6739]

@@annetta7 try doing some research she was a punk and yoof culture pioneer heavily involved in the music

[@annetta7]

@@markbarker6739 Mark I was a London punk in 1977 and was interviewed by JS-P in the Summer of 1977, She knew nothing about punk or music. She wasn't even a nice person, but I won't go into details now. My book will be out in a couple years, hopefully, if I don't die first. "Try doing some research" -- "she was a punk" -- what a joke. You'd be wise sticking to something you actually know about. You're a clown.