The Yiheng Wang Problem

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STUCUBE

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@chezeus1672 3 ай бұрын

14 years later, i finally understand that grumpy woman who told me that's a game for kids. she was actually right.

@ThamosProductions 3 ай бұрын

Y’all seem to be forgetting that yiheng can still learn full zb whenever

@raghavplayz874 3 ай бұрын

exactly

@matthiashacker4486 3 ай бұрын

Suppose Yiheng's max TPS ends up being around 20+ TPS. The two extra moves he does over Tymon will only cost him 0.1 seconds, and considering no-one else has his lookahead or TPS, that 0.1 second isn't going to cause him any issues.

@Stabruder 3 ай бұрын

He is rn already learning it😊

@nasdfigol 3 ай бұрын

He currently is

@nasdfigol 3 ай бұрын

You forget how much of a significant impact 0.1 improvement global does at this extremely high level, if he did this then he would have a legitimate shot at official sub 4, even more than he does now@@matthiashacker4486

@ImThatGuy000 3 ай бұрын

i hit a sub 3 solve, then i woke up..........

@Gladiator6 3 ай бұрын

lol

@jacubing 3 ай бұрын

Start of new era Lol

@SubahanShajahan 3 ай бұрын

Lol, I did a sub 4 solve then I woke up😂

@VerdantGMD 3 ай бұрын

I did a sub 5 solve... which made me throw my 2x2

@KuyaEyo 3 ай бұрын

Whata a mad man solving a cube while asleep

@AJ-ed7mx 3 ай бұрын

yall just remember cubing is a young persons thing. what I mean by that, is that kids tend to have little to almost no responsibilities, their brains can think about cubing all day and night for years if they wanted

@musabkhan629 3 ай бұрын

That’s not the main reason, though it’s one of them, the neuroplasticity is the biggest factor allowing them to much more easily memorize and recall algorithms, basically they can be finely tuned to cubing much more then an older person

@AJ-ed7mx 3 ай бұрын

@@musabkhan629 its impressive, when I was 6 I was picking boogers and farting, kids going to grow up and be a suer genius

@user-jt1to1ry6q 3 ай бұрын

@@AJ-ed7mx??? people fart at every age

@XsevnX 3 ай бұрын

He's from China... If he is doing his normal school duties this simply isn't true. If he is in a "private" school that has a lot of leeway in what he does, though, I could see it being the case.

@AJ-ed7mx 3 ай бұрын

@@XsevnX not having a wife and mortgage helps too 😆

@Rubberduckboy123 3 ай бұрын

When Yiheng starts big cubes. God help us all.

@igotan80isthatgood 3 ай бұрын

tps isnt as important be more scared or sprint events/squan

@Kazoeru 3 ай бұрын

as soon as his hands get bigger its over

@EliteCubingAlliance 3 ай бұрын

Nah. Timofei is like way way faster than him. Timofei is future big cube GOAT

@samueljehanno 3 ай бұрын

@@EliteCubingAlliancefr he is underrated

@tyronium2 3 ай бұрын

@ripterdusk4736big cube efficiency is not like you think, i average less moves than max and nahm (i've counted moves on average solves before) but im not world class or anything

@davidpbariya-k2a 3 ай бұрын

The difference between wr1 and wr2 is the same difference between wr2 and wr10. All hail King Yiheng 🙌

@westong9082 3 ай бұрын

Watching this right now without knowing shit about cubing and I feel like I'm trying to understand hieroglyphics with some of these terms lol

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

That’s actually interesting because obviously I made this video primarily for people who already know a decent amount about cubing, but I’m trying to broaden my audience as well so what are some of the ideas/just stuff in general you didn’t understand?

@westong9082 3 ай бұрын

@@STUCUBE The whole algorithm meta changing seems really fascinating even though I'm not familiar with the terms. I clicked on the video because I had some idea of who Yiheng Wang was and how he's the current best in this sport but I think the idea that there are new and updated ways to solve Rubiks Cubes is actually crazy to me I had no idea about any of that

@sfdragon9946 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I also had no idea there was such a big community around cubing, so this was a neat video to find in my recommended. And like-as someone who also literally knows nothing about this thing, this was a really informative video on who Yiheng Wang and the other best competitors in the world were.

@DZSRUBIKSCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Seeing all this makes me think myself dumb as I can't even predict my first pair

@parabolaaaaa4919 3 ай бұрын

i avg low 7 and i can barely do it lol

@discogull1388 3 ай бұрын

@@parabolaaaaa4919 makes me feel better

@Davitorino74 3 ай бұрын

I am avg 2… minutes

@hardknockscoc 2 ай бұрын

@@parabolaaaaa4919 What's your TPS? I average like 11 and I can't either. How you getting 7 lol

@curiousNic 3 ай бұрын

A sub-5 official ao100 is crazy impressive and I can't wait to see what's yet to come. Never count out Tymon though. He was even practicing ZBLS in between judging 2x2 last comp and will be prepared for Worlds. They both will put on a spectacle for us. PS: Congrats on 20k subs!

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

So true. I wouldn’t be shocked if Tymon could somehow find a way to pull it off especially with full zb

@whydiditypedis8510 3 ай бұрын

@@STUCUBEIsn’t Yiheng also learning ZB?

@SilverCuber 3 ай бұрын

Watching a STU video with a snack hits different. Truly fascinating the way you talk

@EliteCuberr 3 ай бұрын

I want to get into making long-form content, but how am I supposed to compete with this?? This is a legit movie, man. Your videos are legendary.

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Thanks bro. Go back and watch my first video. Improvement takes time but it’s always worth it in the long run

@ThePanda9 3 ай бұрын

Yo i was thinking of u while watching this

@jspr1te529 3 ай бұрын

“Yiheng will be one of the only finalists using CFOP” It’s confirmed guys. The Rouxvolution is taking over

@kyh148 3 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@CubingPenguin 3 ай бұрын

@@kyh148 why are you everywhere

@L4ngyAge 3 ай бұрын

I was just gonna say the same lol@@CubingPenguin

@realredguyX 15 күн бұрын

Proud of being sub 45 because of roux

@AnotherExtraFist 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for this video. Superb analysis. From someone who has avoided even trying for decades!!!

@pegah9413 2 ай бұрын

i have no idea why this was in my feed as I don't even know the first thing about rubics cube (except that I can't solve it), but damn it was so funny watching the epic music and edits turning something seemingly so simple to battle of worlds hanging between life and death lmao

@vedantdeddo8585 3 ай бұрын

the fact that he said yiheng will probably break WR next week and it happened 9 days later is fucking hilarious

@clockisgoated 3 ай бұрын

yihengs coach has stated that yiheng will not be learning zb as his transition from oll to pll is way too fast for him to save really any time because he will still have to recognize the zb and execute the alg faster than oll and pll which for him is very hard

@Feverstockphoto 3 ай бұрын

'Yiheng's coach has stated..,' Source, link? Unless or until Yiheng actually learns ZB.., and practises it for a prolonged period of time to the same level as his OLL, PLL, it would be tough to say for sure if it wound make him faster, though it should, setting recognition times aside for a second. What we do know is that at least ZBLL in and of itself itself saves several moves over OLL, PLL. Recognition is the slightly unknown factor but it may take a fraction of a second longer than say OLL on it's own and Maybe be a similar time to OLL and PLL combined. But again at least we know ZBLL saves moves and we know people like Tymon and others are benefitting from using it over OLL and PLL. So my guess is it would save Yiheng a small fraction of a second overall and every fraction of a second that can be saved can make a big difference! I know very little about ZBLS! So that might impact his time negatively over his current insert preferences. His coach may think Yiheng doesn't need to learn, utilise ZB now as no one can touch him time wise, but the future may be a different ball game. Watch this space! 🙂👍

@noddle045 3 ай бұрын

Yea I need a source on this

@matthiashacker4486 3 ай бұрын

@axiom123 3 ай бұрын

it will eventually catch up to him tho

@yinyangsepticruski 3 ай бұрын

YiHeng is probably one of the craziest anomalies in terms of cubing performance and improvement like Tymon a few years back. Also, daily "hate" message: I'm not a fan of crustacean foods.

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

The hate messages have kept me up at night for months

@SpeedMinxer 3 ай бұрын

Just wanna say, I really appreciate the sound design on this video

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! It makes editing take longer but worth it everytime

@goosiefel 2 ай бұрын

hes like mrekk in osu, every time someone utters the words "ok surely THIS is the human limit" he CRUSHES it

@ryanbishoop 3 ай бұрын

"yiheng will probably be the last record holder" factsss

@blackbird1132 3 ай бұрын

I mean xuanyi already has 2 sub 5 averages.

@EliteCubingAlliance 3 ай бұрын

@@blackbird1132 Yeah. Bro is 7, and Yiheng was not even near that fast at his age.

@parabolaaaaa4919 3 ай бұрын

xuanyi is probably better but he has nerves

@ugwuanyicollins6136 3 ай бұрын

Sabbastine Toronto 16 WR single in FMC

@ugwuanyicollins6136 3 ай бұрын

Xuanyi is already learning FMC

@prawnydagrate 3 ай бұрын

1:59 - yiheng recognizes + executes oll in 0.556s, and then recognizes and executes pll in 0.891s

@MinhHien091 3 ай бұрын

My pll and oll recognition is like 4s total 😭😭 (I sub 20)

@stevenhthe21st 2 ай бұрын

@@MinhHien091 not including moves, just recognition? Man, i’m only sub 30 and spend less time on recognition

@bvbxiong5791 Ай бұрын

my excuse used to be my small hands. ima go cry in the corner now.

@hperm2022 3 ай бұрын

Cubing History 1974 - Erno Rubik makes Rubik's cube 1975-1981 - Rubik's Cubes first sold 1982-2003 - Minh Thai Reigns 2003-2009 - WCA Wild West Era 2009-202? - CFOP Era (Feliks, Max, Yiheng) ? - Little Kid's ZB Era

@jeremykothe2847 Ай бұрын

.... skynet

@michaelfisher9262 3 ай бұрын

I love your breakdowns. Great Job!

@ShadowCooper77 3 ай бұрын

To answer your question about how these cubers are created: Antoine Cantin (I think it was him) made a video showing Xuanyi Geng and Yiheng Wang planning as many F2L pairs as possible from inspection. Xuanyi was rather consistently getting cross +4, so Antoine asked his mother how he practiced. The answer was that in China they have Rubik's Cube schools.

@Feverstockphoto 3 ай бұрын

True. Grassroots approach.

@table5584 3 ай бұрын

It will be hosted in my hosue

@CommercialSwine 3 ай бұрын

No shit Sherlock

@ShadowCooper77 3 ай бұрын

@@CommercialSwine ??? In what universe is it obvious that they have dedicated, in-person academies for cubing in a country that, like stucube mentioned, we know very little about? You high or just slow?

@CommercialSwine 3 ай бұрын

@@ShadowCooper77 TF you mean? Every cuber who's been involved at all in this community knows that. Ruihang had a coach, Yi Heng is seen with a coach. We've known that since 2022. This ain't a breakthrough lil bro. You're the slow one.

@dylanmiller5012 3 ай бұрын

banger fr

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Correlation between Dylan Miller being in the video and bangers is 1:1

@Zacreationates 3 ай бұрын

this channel deserves so many more views.

@jettyung2389 3 ай бұрын

Interesting topic. For Big Cubes, almost everyone has eventually switched to Yau, but I think Max Park still uses Redux for 5x5 and up (and he's still at the top)

@AdriamDiaz 3 ай бұрын

after i watched the video i got my PR !!!!!! 21.83

@chinstion 3 ай бұрын

W bro. I fell out of cubing after averaging around 20, and I’m trying to get back into it. Glad to see someone at my speed

@kr_ykoo 3 ай бұрын

0:20 not to be rude, just educational. most polish words are accented on the second syllable to the last. obviously the same rule applies to last names so if you'd like to pronounce them correctly (again, i'm not judging, just letting you know) it should sound more like plesk-oh-vich, not plesko-vich. like tymon's last name kolasinski, it's pronounced kola-sin-ski which everyone tends to accent correctly, but his first name tymon - accenting on the "mon" syllable which actually should be accented at the "ty" syllable

@qsriel77 3 ай бұрын

ZZ + ZB would be POWERFUL

@ugwuanyicollins6136 3 ай бұрын

Actually they're mutually exclusive

@gen3sis919 3 ай бұрын

@@ugwuanyicollins6136 🤓

@MaximilianBerkmann 3 ай бұрын

@ugwuanyicollins6136 Not really. Look at ZZ-a and that's essentially ZZ+ZB.

@ZatiCoh 3 ай бұрын

I have no doubt that Yiheng will win the next worlds competition, and would hope to see a new world record set! Something tells me this worlds will be an unforgettable one for the community, though that could just be wishful thinking.

@farisufazz2377 3 ай бұрын

bro your video amazing af

@johndorian473 2 ай бұрын

"I want to win at ANY cost" -- Yiheng Wang probably

@PhilemonBarlow 3 ай бұрын

The title is crazy

@cuberootme 3 ай бұрын

😮

@CompanionCube 3 ай бұрын

you know something we don‘t 😭

@cuberootme 3 ай бұрын

@@CompanionCube i now have his ao50 and gonna record another ao50 to form ao100. just too many videos to deal with

@samueljehanno 3 ай бұрын

@@cuberootmemaybe don't

@samueljehanno 3 ай бұрын

Because he will progress further

@Eric___X 3 ай бұрын

@@cuberootme what people want is his at home ao50 or ao100, we already know how he performed at comps but we dont know how good he is when there is no comp nerves

@thetwistedcube 2 ай бұрын

Yiheng's turning style revolves around fast turning with little pauses. Even a small pause for zb could cost him more time than an extra pll alg

@dogechannel872 Ай бұрын

there are a lot of other factor like max turn speed for algorithm and case recognition for each 305 zbls and 472 zbll. fully mastering zb method will take insane memorization and look ahead of each cube piece to be done without any delay.

@mysterycuber6546 3 ай бұрын

For 3x3, East Asia and Eastern Europe do be cooking rn 🔥🔥

@ZalmanGrossbaum-r4q 3 ай бұрын

I was waiting for a new video

@yellowphoenix9803 3 ай бұрын

Ive never solved a rubix cube in my life, however watching these videos is so fun to me. Same for tetris

3 ай бұрын

great video. every year we think this is a plateau and it is not... starting to think there will be a time when one look F2L + 1LLL will be the standard for world's top 10.

@SamuelLandveld 3 ай бұрын

Wow stucube,you know how to explain things.

@jonah.leonard 3 ай бұрын

I'm just waiting for the day I wake up to a Stu video and he's got 200k subs

@SerKubos 3 ай бұрын

YIHENG HAS A 2.7 AVERAGE AT HOME

@Feverstockphoto 3 ай бұрын

From the Cross solved or unsolved? Using a smart cube or non smart cube? Video/recorded?

@SerKubos 3 ай бұрын

@@Feverstockphoto It was a joke about the dylan's live

@Feverstockphoto 3 ай бұрын

@@SerKubos Ah right, now the biting makes sense 🙂👍

@stevey-rp2mt 3 ай бұрын

This is like gojo vs sakuna but in cubing at this point

@stars-k3c 2 ай бұрын

yall forgetting yiheng can pretty much plan full cross and f2l in inspection. if he turned at his max tps in that and learned a little bit a zb he is never getting beat

@Joe-bo-cow-bo Ай бұрын

Instant subscribe

@Velereonics 2 ай бұрын

There were what felt like odd ommissions in the summary at the beginning. You obviously know who won each worlds, but to a random who was given this video by the algorithm, I have no idea, and while I am pretty sure I can infer from "he wasn't just the favorite, he was the fan favorite, it wasnt that he was simply going to win, it was that he deserved it" I feel like he DID in fact win, but I don't know for sure. Did the Thai child defeat the teenager in an upset or did the expected result play out. Doesn't really take away from the overall point, but from a storytelling perspective, you gotta include those details, because it's too many "wait, what?"s in quick succession right at the beginning. Edit: Ok well Im subscribing anyway because Im hoping you have videos on all these algorithms because they also sound interesting but it is appropriate to not have included them here as simply understanding what an algorithm is, which most do or will pick up from context clues, allows one to understand why Yiheng will be usurped almost inevitably. You should make a follow up though or maybe something like this is already on your channel (and I could probably google the following question verbatim) but why is Yiheng's combination of algorithms conclusively slower than the CFOP(?) method? You mentioned turning, which clearly is going to radically affect speed to a point (are there stats on if different methods have, and it would be best to look at tiers of cubing separately, different average turning frequencies? Is there data on specific turns?) And then also, why can't Yiheng learn CFOP? Does it take too long to develop the muscle memory? I am sure he understands or his coaches understand the manner it which it is superior, and obviously as long as Yiheng is winning, there is no reason to get in his way. But if he started to lose, then surely they would attempt the switch?

@stefanpochmann5205 2 ай бұрын

5:07 What was that, where he wasn't looking?

@Wayne-wo1wc 2 ай бұрын

The challenge is that you can observe the cube for a few seconds. Then you start to do it without looking.

@stefanpochmann5205 2 ай бұрын

@@Wayne-wo1wc Ah, found a longer video with more infos by searching "yiheng wang blindfolded" (not sure why I hadn't tried that).

@samuelgalarcemoscoso9933 3 ай бұрын

1:11- bro how did you got the raking on 2013, I cannot do it because the wca don'y let me how did you do

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Right click inspect - element haha. That feature on the website doesn’t really work so I had to innovate for the vid

@dezcubing5844 3 ай бұрын

Or the wayback machine

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Only goes back to 2019 😔

@dezcubing5844 3 ай бұрын

Thats just for specifically the records page. If put the home page url into the wayback machine it will have some way older versions of the website with all of its pages

@samuelgalarcemoscoso9933 3 ай бұрын

@@dezcubing5844 wait wat

@neerajnongmaithem392 2 ай бұрын

This kid is young and has the potential to learn the entire ZB. The kid is not even a teen, he is 11 yo

@CubingAustria124 3 ай бұрын

Great vid

@wty1313 2 ай бұрын

Don't know why this came up on my feed - I have to take the cube apart so I can put it back together correctly.

@rbrtplays2477 Ай бұрын

Watch Penn and Tellers documentary about magic in China I cant remember the name rn but they are different over there. Its about a school dedicated to learning magic. Theres a kid in that video that throws a vase on his head and balances it for some juggeling act but he does it so much he has a big dent on his head from where the vase lands all day. I would assume Yiheng goes through a similar training in wich case who knows how fast he can get.

@mal2ksc Ай бұрын

The kid is 11. It's not too late to learn a new method, the question is whether learning that new method will help him win _now._ If it won't, it's probably best to avoid the possibility of confusion from cross-training, and taking the edge off his main strat that is already dialed in. When he's no longer winning enough this way, he'll switch. This is like complaining some prodigy musician hasn't learned a certain technique yet. Maybe they just don't need it yet.

@dylanmiller5805 3 ай бұрын

I know he was talking about someone else, but hearing my legal first and last name was W I L D

@SGcuber777 3 ай бұрын

After watching this Yiheng's reaction- Opening Algdb , Let start from the the first ZBLL

@Kneecaptain 3 ай бұрын

yiheng is learning full zbll rn and its pretty fucking scary

@koulmemaybe 3 ай бұрын

speedcubenz did a podcast with antoine cantin and dylan miller discussing chinese speedcubing that's pretty informative about how big cubing is in China, it's literally in the school curriculum in many places, not to mention the hundreds (if not thousands) of cubing schools

@eatingnemo9582 2 ай бұрын

No it isn’t lmao?

@MichaelNiu-d8s 2 ай бұрын

+1 subscriber ❤

@Feverstockphoto 3 ай бұрын

Yiheng has learned ZBLL at least in part and may also be learning ZBLS. We haven't seen him employ this combination in comp yet asaik, but there is nothing stopping him from learning and using it in future comps when he is ready. The best way to know what his average of 5.., are at home is ask him, or ask him to record them or fly over to his house and video him solving, do interviews... 🙃🙂👍

@CubingForEveryone 3 ай бұрын

I know

@piershanson1784 3 ай бұрын

zb vs roux lol. For third place, APB vs ZZ, although fingers crossed that one of those will have competetive results someday.

@Paints 3 ай бұрын

6:40 Bros prediction skills are on point 💀

@Chezzpro Ай бұрын

That kid is a prodigy...

@PHeMoX 3 ай бұрын

Speed over efficiency wins when it is really only two or three moves more, especially if it takes less brainpower too. I think the leaderboards show a pretty normal sequence of very fast times. I don't see this 'new generation' crushing the old records suggesting the 'old WC algo methods' are outdated now.

@ScoochCubing 3 ай бұрын

A while ago Tymon talked about how in world champs they should change the average of 5 in finals to something bigger like average of 12 or 25. According to him this would be a better decider for who’s really the best in the world. Although that’s correct, I think an average of 5 has a good mix of skill, luck and nerve control that makes world champs the perfect amount of excitement, as it will still be quite unpredictable who wins. Whereas any set bigger than ao5, Yiheng would basically be guaranteed to win (as long as he’s doesn’t completely collapse under the pressure), which would be boring. So because it’s just one ao5 I don’t think Worlds finals is as predictable as people are saying, especially how good someone like Tymon tends to do under pressure

@H-perm-sune 3 ай бұрын

Conclusion: start learning zb or youre cooked beyond comeback.

@ugwuanyicollins6136 3 ай бұрын

Yiheng wang used ZZ in his 4.25 Ao5

@n7x 2 ай бұрын

I haven’t followed cubing in a while, is cfop almost obsolete now?

@ivan-the-crafter 3 ай бұрын

how do I learn this new cubing method?

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Erm like years of straight learning algs

@samueljehanno 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@sharkythecuber 3 ай бұрын

The cubing lore going deep

@RemyMS 3 ай бұрын

Its only a matter of time for the first sub 3 single and the first sub 4 avg...

@Gretchaninov 3 ай бұрын

Didn't Felix use CFOP in 2011 and 2013? If so, then Yiheng and CFOP might well last another 10 years as well. Turning speed, look ahead, hardware, predicting steps, x-cross, etc. - those are all ways to keep improving without needing tonnes of new algs.

@Argxt 3 ай бұрын

The difference is that it is a lot more refined now than it was in 2013

@Gretchaninov 3 ай бұрын

@@Argxt And it will be even more refined by 2033.

@pratikkhanna3182 3 ай бұрын

Should i be happy that my avg move count is 52-56 but I average 8seconds

@EliteCubingAlliance 3 ай бұрын

6:11 No way bro put this in the video 💀

@i.am.colddd 2 ай бұрын

now my recommendation is about cubes and I do not even care about these

@blengi 2 ай бұрын

wonder if he'll get slower when hands grow larger in puberty? What are the stats adjusted for hand size and efficiency?

@kewbing 3 ай бұрын

Tymon is not the most efficient cuber because of methods like roux and my average move count is 49 since i use roux

@dabmachine1 3 ай бұрын

his hands will grow and he will start big cubes :O

@ryanbishoop 3 ай бұрын

hey goat

@STUCUBE 3 ай бұрын

Nah you the real mvp

@abosaleh3318 3 ай бұрын

Wang is young enough to learn ZBLL!

@Grass1-r2l 3 ай бұрын

1 year ago I was dreaming of getting wr, now...

@lewisone 3 ай бұрын

At one point this last year few years I was thrilled to be in my earlty 50s and being sub 8 and not doing it with CFOP or ROUX. Now not so much. lol.

@TheCubingGrandmaster 3 ай бұрын

bro is two steps ahead

@damanwithbrain 3 ай бұрын

He predicted it

@Mehedi0fficial 3 ай бұрын

So the CFOP Method is becoming an old school method?

@paper2222 3 ай бұрын

human knows no limits i'd dare say a sub 2.5 single and a sub 3 avg will happen

@Vision-ky7ew 3 ай бұрын

True. With over 20TPS, ~45 turn would take less than 2.5 sec. With luck and dedication, some people will be able to do this. (Certainly I'm not one of them...)