the "YouTube Controversies Iceberg", explained

KZbin, the biggest video sharing platform by far, has had its fair share of controversial updates, creators, and more. Using the iceberg format, I'm here to talk about some of the most interesting or notable of which.
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📝 Notes
Any corrections to things stated in the video are in the pinned comment, if necessary.
All content used falls under fair use, under Section 107 of the 1976 Copyright Act.
All content in the video is purely educational in the realm of KZbin/internet history.
A Part 2 will be made sometime far in the future, so leave suggestions below.
This video did not aim to capture all the controversies on KZbin/within its community, more focusing on the most interesting.
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Intro: Polytoria - Inside (by me lol)
Tier 1: Silent Hill 2 - A World of Madness
Tier 2: Yume 2kki - Cog Maze
Tier 3: Silent Hill 2 - The Day of Night
Tier 4: Silent Hill 2 - Heaven's Night
Tier 5: Silent Hill 3 - Never Forgive Me, Never Forget Me
Tier 6: Garage: Bad Dream Adventure - Ambience E (Lighthouse)
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📚 Chapters list
0:00:00 Intro
0:00:41 Tier 1
0:32:44 Tier 2
0:56:57 Tier 3
1:09:30 Tier 4
1:19:21 Tier 5
1:36:56 Tier 6
1:51:08 Outro
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[@toastedcherries]

*Corrections* 1) Don't have any corrections yet that I didn't edit in, though I didn't include the Kevin Leonardo nair video because that happened while I was editing the tier 3 section LOL 2) This mostly talks about English speaking KZbinrs, as I don't fluently speak any other languages and it'd be difficult to accurately research 3) During the part of the Come Little Rabbit entry where the captions say "(singing)", he was saying "there's no deity but Allah" 4) During the section about Vlog Squad, there's a spot with censored voiceover yet no caption. It says "coerced her into s**." 5) The weird low quality audio (not censorship) before the clip of NaturalSelector89's final video happened because of copyrighted audio removal. There was a KMFDM song there. 6) Chris Chan's comic was created in the mid-2000s, though I said it was created in 2000 because of the 'copyright' date, which refers to the date of the character itself's creation 7) MisterObvious got his start uploading on a now-deleted channel called HellBoy10 in mid-2006 (the Roblox ones only date back to mid-2007). Most of the videos from this account are long gone. Not a correction but why did I talk like that in tier 6 😭

[@3erie559]

Hi

[@GokuMan3000]

crazy

[@L0tsen]

@@GokuMan3000 i was crazy once

[@iminonet]

​@@L0tsenthey locked me in a room, a rubber room full of rats

[@L0tsen]

@@iminonet and rats make me crazy

[@pediddywitty4026]

I find it alarming that 75% of KZbin’s history in terms of drama are endless stories of creators grooming and sexually harassing kids. Seems like every year, at least one creator is caught for it.

[@superior2096]

Unfortunately. We'd probably be better without social media too many crazy people nowadays.

[@sympatheticflake890]

​@@superior2096true dat

[@Lalalololalo]

@@superior2096pedos existed long before the Internet lmao. But I agree, it’s definitely made it a LOT easier for preds to get to children. I think kids should… not try to evade the age limits on social media. And that pedos should burn lol

[@enaa-_]

exactly, we should educate the youngers to not give them any kind of sexual content

[@ItzBIULD]

And abusive relationships

[@YanoLBP]

If I had a nickel for every time that a KZbinr was accused of grooming kids, I'd be a millionaire by now.

[@user-cw4dn1ru3k]

danny friggin duncan

[@dimitar.bogdanov]

Scratch that, you'd still be a millionaire even if you got money for ytbers who actually got charged...

[@YazTeondra-]

ITS INSANE! How they are groomers ??? What is going on 💀

[@autumn_sunday]

Apparently, people can't look at a child and not go "GAW DAHM!" I personally like dream, and when he put his face reveal, people SUDDENLY WENT LIKE "Ah crud, it was THIS man who did that to me!" Just to start drama. His community is terrible. I feel so bad for Dream.

[@KysEcstacy]

@@autumn_sunday he is responsible for alot of what his community does, im still not sure what to make of the allegations but its just worth saying

[@CZsWorld]

You know you're in deep when you know about every single one until deep into Tier 5.

[@lucieharker2138]

Wait 4 hours ago- am I early also hi love ur vids, they were very nice to watch during my saw rabbit hole adventure

[@eddiestefon7041]

Oh, hey dude! Love your videos, and yeah you know you're on the internet too much when you know so many of these 😅

[@bumshakyvloggerhi6791]

i knew every one in tier 6 omfg😭

[@pixiedust1999]

Hey buddy Good to see amazing creators watching each other

[@greycatturtle7132]

True

[@sashamurashi225]

The four horsemen of KZbin controversies: Someone being a creepy pervert Someone being a jackass and harassing people A challenge that got people killed KZbin making a horrible update and not fixing anything ( bounce: apology videos )

[@MHPAM]

Or fucking neo nazis like pewdiepie

[@PrinzessinSchuhkarton]

And the mystery egg surprise one, a dead body

[@blevination]

The real youtube controversy was the friends we made along the way

[@fbiagent..]

Maybe it was

[@lingo4770]

hey my not

[@ThreeDog69420]

100th like

[@JJake993]

So true 🚬 🗿

[@Thelemonlicorice]

Why does this sound accurate?

[@snick1336]

The story of the man who was bipolar and sung that “Come little rabbit” song actually made me heartbroken.He sounded so happy and hopeful in the song,that it tears me up thinking about how he was just wanting to make a song and become famous and have someone exploit that really makes me sad. May he rest in peace.

[@caidenmcgill2579]

I found it from a nick crowley video and it still makes me sad

[@RealMcKing]

It is come little rabbit

[@Ex_in_the_Vatican]

Should serve as a reminder how actually evil the Chinese government is, yet the majority of the world remain willfully ignorant to the atrocities, human rights violations and draconian laws. Sad really.

[@staringcorgi6475]

But it’s suspect to be given a brief case even people who play bit life know this

[@snick1336]

@@staringcorgi6475 true but he was bipolar and homeless so he just probably couldn’t of known the dangers of taking some random briefcase

[@tazinboor3913]

Tier 1 0:43 The Paul Brothers 2:21 Baby Shark, Baby, Friday, and Wrecking Ball. 2:49 Pewdiepie Bridge Incident 4:42 Prank KZbinrs 5:44 Keemstar 8:28 Andrew Tate 8:36 CBMF NFT 8:53 Shane Dawson 9:45 Content Cop 10:36 Elsagate 11:01 Jellybean 11:29 Chris Chan 12:57 Dangerous challenges, stunts, etc. 14:35 Nikocado Avocado 15:24 Ricegum 17:49 Netnobody / SkyDoesMinecraft 18:26 That vegan teacher 19:41 EDP 20:35 Google+ 21:27 Adpocalypse 22:02 James Charles & The Dramageddon 23:55 Jeffrey Star 24:39 Callmecarson 25:38 Dream 27:00 Vlog Squad 27:43 Dislikes Removal 28:14 Leafyishere 29:15 KZbin Rewind 29:45 Jschlatt 30:54 KSI 31:50 Tanacon 32:19 Miranda Sings Tier 2 32:46 Hi Walter 33:33 1444 33:55 Twomad 35:53 KONY 2012 36:57 Tmartn 37:16 Imjaystation 38:13 H3H3 Productions 38:39 Jontron 39:04 Onision 41:36 Comment bots 41:48 N&A Productions 42:05 Save The Kids 42:27 KZbin HQ Shooting 42:50 Jenna Marbles 43:12 Viacom 43:30 Machinima and it’s deletion 44:05 Nicole Arbour 44:42 Sevensupergirls founder 45:15 Pyrocynical 45:54 Channel 5 46:30 Sub loss bug 46:47 Tobuscus 47:21 SML 48:20 Lionmaker 49:47 DaddyOFive 50:46 Squizzy 51:53 IIlluminaughtii 53:17 AnswerUsKZbin 54:26 Badabun speedrun 55:03 Marina Joyce 56:12 Austin Jones Tier 3 56:59 Brooke Houts 57:23 Established titles 57:52 112dirtbag 58:51 futuristichub 59:29 Cryaotic 59:51 Annotations removal 1:00:21 Elliot Rodger 1:00:56 Deleting a/h from watch 1:01:56 GEMA Video Block 1:02:11 Cash and NotNico Ripoffs 1:03:16 LensCapProductions 1:03:50 Creepshow Art 1:05:15 Sketchek 1:05:38 Mark Turpin 1:05:55 Peluchin Entertainment 1:06:28 Annoying Orange NFT 1:07:17 GhettoASMR 1:08:09 # ChangeTheChannel 1:08:33 Toy Freaks 1:08:56 Fake animal rescues Tier 4 1:09:32 Quantum TV 1:09:52 5 stars removal 1:10:18 MisterObvious 1:11:38 CarlH 1:12:16 TheBorderline 1:12:39 XtremeGamez 1:13:08 WingsofRedemption 1:13:47 PlasmaMasterDon 1:14:18 Lisa Gaming Roblox 1:14:38 Suzy Lu 1:14:56 KZbin Heroes 1:15:20 Amos Yee 1:16:29 Garcia V. Google 1:17:31 Patrice Wilson H3H3 Stream 1:18:30 OnlyUsMeBLADE Tier 5 1:19:23 Minecash 1:19:49 Come Little Rabbit 1:21:52 Syndicate Round 115 1:22:40 Markiplier shows gore in a video 1:23:27 Whitney Wisconsin 1:23:38 Cartoon Incorporated 1:24:00 Reply Girls 1:24:49 2006 Iran KZbin Block 1:25:17 Pruane2Forever 1:25:47 DollyFlesh 1:27:06 Wael Abbas Ban 1:27:42 Hypnotist Sappho 1:28:27 Kero The Wolf 1:30:18 Layout 2.0 1:30:55 You have 30 days to pay me $5M+ 1:31:43 Monkey Hate 1:32:08 Tony48219 1:33:22 Starman3 1:34:57 PioneersProductions Tier 6 1:37:00 2011 Slovenian KZbin Incident 1:37:23 UTubeDrama .com & McManGOS 1:38:56 MeiAIDS Hack 1:39:48 zb333 1:40:29 KZbin vs UTube 1:41:12 GodlyRecon 1:42:21 boots666 1:43:03 MrSleepyPeople 1:43:32 Alyssa Dayvault 1:44:22 NaturalSelector89 1:44:58 Lynn Ann 1:45:30 Classitup10 1:47:46 CulturalPhilistine 1:51:08 Removal of KZbin Snake Easter Egg

[@Ruby_Eve]

You're an absolute legend. Also that last one hits so close to home

[@tazinboor3913]

@@Ruby_Eve Thank you! I’m glad people have noticed my comment. I just didn’t notice a timestamp list comment in this video, so I decided to make my own.

[@tazinboor3913]

@@vivizyue what about 4 22?

[@noctua_caelum]

Thank god, I wasn’t going to continue to watch this thing if I couldn’t find timestamps 😅

[@tazinboor3913]

@@noctua_caelum Hehe. Yeah.

[@wimpyfish6906]

Mutual friend of Brianna Ghey's family. The world has been uglier since she passed. It breaks my heart to know anyone would have it in them to mock that joyful, vibrant young girl as though the senseless robbing of her life wasn't enough. She was a child with hopes and dreams and a family who loved her desperately. She deserved to live, and if she can't she at least deserves to rest peacefully.

[@UmiZoomR]

Boy do i NOT miss 2016s. Never have i seen people be so overly narcissistic and desperate for attention it was pettiness at its finest

[@bxstard]

I mean, nothing really changed, but it was soooo much worse in 2016-2018

[@combinesoldier14]

I remember using youtube back in 2016-2017. While it was a very nostalgic time I'm glad it's over, back then people would regularly call you the n word in comments and there was soo much homophobia and use of the other f word. It was ridiculous and I'm glad it's over

[@Meleedroit]

It was also overrun with political shit, you couldn't go on youtube without teen boy neo-nazis or closeted bigot "sjws" on your home feed

[@eko9554]

Don’t forget it was the Anti-SJW era

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Boy I do not know how people can be nostalgic for 2016, back in the day people called it the worst year ever (before 2020 came along) and if you were there you would understand. It was such a hateful year.

[@Kykof]

Those animal abuse channels still make me cry. I had to skip over that part, as it genuinely made me start tearing up.

[@shelbyxox]

this is so real. there’s so many people that shouldn’t even be NEAR animals.

[@hundredLeech]

As much as the rest of the video disturbed me, the kitten killing one forced me to pause, look away, think, and skip the entire section. I know full well that 5 more seconds of that would've changed me for weeks.

[@soupeater]

​@@hundredLeechif it makes u feel any better the surviving kittens were rescued & r in very loving hands !

[@JudyBook]

I usually just play videos in the background while I play games and I figured this one would be a good one to just listen to but I wasn’t paying attention at one point and then I started listening and then I had to just quickly skip over and try to get the tears out

[@strummerbaum4409]

But child abuse is totally unskippable and watchable in ur eyes?

[@sharafina9474]

This video honestly felt like a youtube rewind

[@kylieebrook]

i love how this includes controversies from EVERY genre

[@CptPurpleHero]

How it started: Dream was a popular Minecraft youtuber who was exposed for cheating in some Minecraft speedruns. How it ended: Look at this violent argument an unsuspecting guy had in the youtube comment section with a future mass killer.

[@donotchangepassworklaridis7889]

Facts homie!

[@williamking331]

What wait? Is that even true?

[@CptPurpleHero]

@@williamking331Is what true?

[@williamking331]

@@CptPurpleHero about dream? Or is it just sarcastic?

[@CptPurpleHero]

@@williamking331 Yea, there was a whole situation a few years ago where people were trying to prove that the drop rates of items were modified in some of his records. He eventually admitted that he had an illegal mod enabled, but claimed that he didn't know what his team had put on his computer for manhunts.

[@Jerry_the_Head]

not to mention, that vegan teacher also called the lgbtqia+ community"Selfish" for coming out as gay/ace/bi/pan/trans/etc. rather than coming out as vegan

[@IceFalcon38]

You think that's bad? Wait till you find her video about 9/11

[@Dawg347]

@@IceFalcon38explain please.

[@Jerry_the_Head]

@@Dawg347 she compared eating meat to the holocaust, as well as made fun of a kid who tried a vegan diet too. might not be the answer you're looking for, but i'm honestly too scared to search it and have her name plastered on my search

[@greenthinggg]

Insane lady

[@bigheadshorty]

Yeah

[@NoClueHonestly]

Idea for future videos: use indirect phrases for the offenses that people can still understand from hearing them instead of blurring the speech. I like listening to these vids while playing video games and it's distracting to have to constantly switch back to the video tab, rewind and see what the blurred out voice line was. Also makes the videos much more blind friendly C:

[@yayvey]

14:07 The blackout challenge existed way before Tik Tok. It was a Facebook challenge started around 2006ish. My friend died from it in 2007 and it was a big deal in my city. He blacked out, and on his way down he hit his head on his computer table, and then on a hard wood floor. No one helped him for hours.

[@PataMuncher]

Yes I remember it being a thing even in the early 2010’s

[@DoctorBones1]

Geniune question: What did you think afterwards? i mean its an incredibly stupid thing to even try

[@ImBadAtNamingThings]

WAKE UP BABE, 2 HOUR LONG TOASTEDCHERRIES ICEBERG JUST DROPPED 🔥

[@fr4mp]

Yo I fucking love your channel

[@maxu0]

it’s actually 1 hour 51 minutes 33 seconds long 🤓

[@jennykeele]

@@maxu0r/wooosh

[@pwnage1337]

Y

[@zMysticat]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ajs2614]

Also to note: Cory stated that Mark's video never got taken down or age restricted even though Mark's and Cory's videos went through the same game. From curiosity (i think), Mark then posted a letsplay of a *porn game* (which was censored), and the video *was never touched.* yea.

[@staringcorgi6475]

And the hospital vid that had gore

[@waycnf7229]

@@staringcorgi6475 wait what hospital vid?

[@staringcorgi6475]

@@waycnf7229 his lp on the hospital an indie game that had literal gore has been on his channel for more than 5 years before being taken down

[@mafyboy0420]

Didn't mark play slave lords of the galaxy at one point and was fine.

[@unicornbarfingrainbows7599]

@@waycnf7229it’s mentioned in this video but years ago he played an indie horror game that had jump scares using uncensored real gore images (which Mark didn’t know) recently the video blew up cause of TikTok and was taken down after seven years

[@courtsknees3149]

I think the thing that made kony 2012 so viral was the fact they went around to schools to promote and show the video, which looking back was so wild of them to do, I remember them coming to my high school and talking about it and showing the video which was horrific.

[@ORA96]

I wanna add to the KSI racial slur part of the video. The slur he used wasn't just directed at the pakistani community it's at South Asians in general. There was a time in the UK I believe in the 70s and 80s where racist groups would go and beat up any South Asians or destroy South Asian ran businesses (shops etc.) This would be referred to as 'insert slur here' bashing. I also would like to add people like to act like it's not that bad because they don't know what it means. I live in the uk and am mixed race (half English half pakistani) and still to this day hear the word being used by adults and children alike nonchalantly, normally when referring to a shop ran by South Asians. This could be a reason why KSI didn't think much of it, I'm not defending him using the word but it could be part of the reason he said it. People in the uk act like it's okay or "not as bad as the n word." its not a competition they are both slurs used against people of certain races. Fact.

[@Vesperad0]

That's shitty, and I'm sorry you have to deal with that. If people aren't comparing slurs, then they're arguing whether or not they're bad in the first place. It wouldn't be called a slur, or pejorative, if it wasn't, but sure let's keep blaming minorities for hating slurs by using the "words only have power if you give them it" excuse.

[@evermoth]

I respect and fear you for covering all of this

[@H04DZ]

I just think it’s scary how nearly all of my favorite KZbinrs turn out to either be racist, groomers, or just bad people.

[@Chris-bz2rf]

​@@H04DZI mean it's inevitable to find a bunch of weirdos on KZbin, they mask themselves but eventually it cracks, but yeah it sucks to see that people who are pretty entertaining turning out to be assholes

[@jdefifa]

⁠@@H04DZsame man. it’s happened to me too many times.

[@peep1372]

It's sad how much good KZbinrs were eventually found out to be a creep. Really great vid toasted

[@solocomics1820]

Well you can't trust nobody on the internet. Everybody has their own dirty secrets at end. Especially the one's I used to watch on KZbin when I was younger.

[@ImmSpiderman2428]

I used to be a fan of EDP445, his content was hilarious, it’s a shame to see how he went down the wrong path

[@randomnoobfan2542]

Everyone is normal... until you get to know them.

[@Sumirevins]

Who knows how much is fake allegations for attention and how much is real.

[@chillfactory9000]

People are people.

[@valentinemiller8680]

I will say with the KZbin censorship thing over the Mortuary Assistant, Markiplier has absolutely proven that KZbin plays favorites, purposefully uploading videos of NSFW games. While these games were censored, they obviously still violated KZbin's policies. These videos were never demonetized or age-restricted and are still on his channel. He and other creators are very aware that the platform plays favorites and that what happened to Cory was blatant favoritism for the other creators making let's plays of the game over him. Many popular KZbinr's are aware of this

[@kambam7661]

Seeing twomad on this list feels so weird considering I’ve only heard people putting him in the mainstream spotlight after he died

[@LostFilms32]

The fact that keemstar still has a platform is disgusting *great all the keemstar stans are taking over the reply section*

[@blakespinelli6969]

he truly is a cockroach doing an impression of a man

[@figeon]

Forget Keemstar, what about Onision? Dude is still going despite many many many very obvious abuse/pedo cases.

[@Ih8simon]

@@figeonyeah idk how we let him get away with this shit

[@LostFilms32]

@@figeon both of them need to get off the platform

[@LostFilms32]

@@BigJackMack so you support a guy who has doxxed multiple people, accused a innocent man of being a nonce resulting in years of hate and then driving a man to suicide and that's just the tip of the iceberg

[@KooisthereincarnationofDIANA]

KZbin is honestly such a disturbing platform and that needs to be discussed more . . .

[@mayconlcruz]

Or more specifically, how neglected mental health and ethical issues are worldwide, to the extent that they become almost inherent elements of online content creation culture.

[@askele-tonofgaming4878]

youtube has been instrumental in finding these communities of degenerates before they do more harm to themselves or others. As terrible as those poor animals getting hurt for views its another chance for the people behind them to be put behind bars for their crimes. If we didn't live in a society of everyone having cameras in their pockets I assure you things would be much worse, you just wouldn't hear about it.

[@Chris-ot9bk]

Honestly the reason why I don't think people talk about how disgusting KZbin can be is because everybody uses youtube, while the social media sites that are hated has a big demographic and certain people use those sites more than others

[@beanoptodon]

The world is a disturbing place, simple as. KZbin is so huge and accessible anyone and everyone can see it, so all walks of life are going to be on it.

[@Modusiticate]

It's a platform-- humanity is the disturbing part.

[@AverageSensei]

Let it be known that the Following Child Predators: Dream, CallMeCarlson, Colleen Ballinger, EDP445, James Charles, and Shane Dawson, are still out there living among us.

[@MaryAX]

Onision too, just insane

[@christinablixthenningsson3529]

Wasnt carson revealed to not be a pedophile and just a weirdo? (I could be wrong, wasnt she 17?)

[@PreludePursuit]

What a detailed video, quite an interesting watch! I see a lot of comments talking about a lot of the different entries or the general theme of creeps that wind up on this platform (unfortunately), but I personally think the entry that stuck with me the most was "Come Little Rabbit." I knew about a bunch of the deeper tier entries from other videos like this, but that entry was one I never heard about. It was rather upsetting to hear, how that injustice can happen even with the attempts to try and protest the execution. Again, well done video, I think you presented every topic very well!

[@sungazercyan]

I love hearing about the pre-2010 youtube incidents, they really unlocks some deep memories for me. The MeiAIDS incident in particular is really hard to quantify nowadays; since youtube was so small (especially relative to today) people were CONVINCED it was the end times of the site. Because I was so involved in YTP at the time I remember like 90% of my related videos bar being that goddamn Sanrio character. It was even a meme in the community for a while after to use that image as your thumbnail intentionally. Great times

[@404TVfr]

MeiAIDS is still the GOAT KZbin fucker because he managed to pretty much break the site. Something that desperately needs a sequel.

[@circleancopan7748]

MeiAIDS was based on Mei, the mute sheep from Sanrio, right?

[@404TVfr]

@@circleancopan7748 mhm.

[@b1tchb4by3]

I mostly experienced YT in the mid 2010’s, so seeing mysteries/incidents in the mid-late 2000’s is like learning history to me. The only way I would’ve known about Mei-AIDS was through someone else recounting the tale (it was Emplemon, if you were wondering). It’s crazy for me to think that all of these lay under the surface, whether it’s right below our feet, or deep underground, almost forgotten.

[@DeciDeci_]

I find it crazy how half if not most of the youtube controversies involve Minecraft youtubers. I don't know what that says about Minecrafts fanbase as whole but damn.

[@husky0098]

My guess is that when a minecraft youtuber does something bad it's perceived as more egregious because of the contrast to the innocent nature of the game itself, so it gets more attention.

[@kameronjones7139]

Yeah the meme about them wasn't a joke

[@nalwyn6033]

One of the main reasons would be simply because there is a LOT of Minecraft KZbinrs, especially at its peak. The bigger of a group you have, the more bad people you'll have in it. Another factor would be the fact that Minecraft's popularity lead to a lot of these KZbinrs being very well known, which means people are more likely to dig up dirt on them, and it's more memorable. For example, who is looking at the past of a channel with only 100 subscribers, and buzzing about it if it's bad, you know?

[@jessicacreed7773]

Minecraft is literally the best-selling video game of all time lmao, there are just a hoarde of minecraft youtubers, that's all.

[@Garden0flowr]

It's a game that attracts all kinds of people due to its sandbox nature, so it makes sense some bad people would make content about the game mixed in with the good people

[@janmilewski7111]

As a Polish person I don't know how you were able to find out about the zb333 youtube channel, since it's so god damn niche even on Polish youtube. The only other mention of it I saw was in a Polish youtube iceberg video by a not really known Polish youtube channel. You're research skills are so good dude.

[@nacl1697]

This was a very well made ice berg video, and this was one I actually enjoyed listening to, I also really liked the background music you chose

[@stephenheffren4324]

I'm surprised you didn't include Friendlyjordies on this list. He's that Australian KZbinr who made journalistic videos and made enemies of the government, the mainstream press, crime organizations, a lot of powerful corporations. He really angered a politician named John Barillaro by imitating his voice and using tge word "Bruz" His house got firebombed and he had to go into hiding for a few months. His KZbin videos got his producer violently arrested, and many Australian media outlets continue to try to defame him.

[@toastedcherries]

i watched one of his videos about that a while ago! i completely forgot about that. that story is wild

[@dannerhoinowski9520]

The best part is is that right after he went into hiding, he just went right back at it, attacking the military for covering up incidents of friendly fire and war crimes. The man’s got BALLS.

[@MortanAMrk]

​@@dannerhoinowski9520real journalists are always wanted for exposing the nation and media they are a part of.

[@KingOfGaymes]

So did he do anything “wrong” per say or was he just pissing off people in power

[@ArtificialDuck]

Hypnotist Sappho and Kero the Wolf are extremely well known and despised among the furry community. Half of us want them dead, and the other half isnt in favor of them being here either.

[@lovesick_loser]

yup, its so frustrating how these people always end up the most well known to people outside the community and continue to validate the masses' (completely untrue) claim that furries are all freaks and criminals. it SUCKS.

[@sulmii]

@@MappieRightsarevalid neither is interacting sexually with animals and children who cannot consent you weirdo.

[@Pot4TH03s]

⁠@@MappieRightsarevalidyou people and zoophiles deserve no morals

[@strawberycupcake]

@@MappieRightsarevalid "that's not a good moral thing to say", said the criminal, while on his way to groom 15 children on discord.

[@strawberycupcake]

@@MappieRightsarevalid children do not understand s*x or romantic relationships. people like you take advantage of them by convincing them that that is ok. I'm not assuming anything, you just are a horrible person who refuses to take accountability. that stupid label you idiots use for yourselves is just to try and normalize abuse. and everyone knows it.

[@gman12000]

I love how 2020 was a bombshell that turned everyones beloved childhood youtuber into some hated outcast from society

[@agentepolaris4914]

What an adventure! This has to be the very best YT icebergs ever made, excellent job man! It deserves a sequel

[@hypernova9363]

If you want to hear something positive that came out from this list, Nikocado Avocado is starting to lose weight and you can definitely see it in his videos, he doesn’t seem to be playing that much of a character anymore and is being genuine, and the comment section seem to be supportive of him, it’s really nice to see

[@melt_brain]

he’s lost 100+pounds. i’ve been a supporter since his vegan days, and when he began to gain weight, i would comment under his youtube channels begging him to revert back, as his body wouldn’t handle going from vegan to cold turkey omnivore again. luckily, he’s doing very well. while his health is still a bit a bad, he’s been doing an amazing 180. oompaville, the iconic youtuber commentary channel, helped him break out of character. he’s doing very well.

[@hypernova9363]

@@melt_brain he really is, I’m very proud of him

[@wysockifamily1747]

The greatest redemption arc of all time.

[@CheshireTheMaid]

Well damn! I'm proud of him then!

[@MoonlightBelladonna]

That's good to hear, I don't watch his content but I hope him and his husband are doing well.

[@wormathyyy]

I genuinely love these long ass iceberg videos, idc if they're overdone but I love long video essays the topics are rlly interesting and well researched which I don't see alot nowadays :D

[@twaffleproductions]

fr

[@Evanz111]

41:44 - damn, wasn’t expecting to see a story I exposed to the community covered in an iceberg video! Was crazy when everyone started talking about the situation, seeing Keemstar and Leafy arguing over my video 😂 great work, keep it up!

[@maysruby03]

Really good iceberg! Had a lot of stuff I hadn’t ever heard of, though I’m kinda surprised you included netnobody but not bashurverse, that was a pretty wild story and he ended up passing to covid

[@imsupershyomaga]

why is it so common to do something against kids??? very disturbing

[@Yeshuagirl2023]

I don't know why people are wierdos

[@AngelVazquez-vs9xp]

Cause the government is causing it.

[@tuureluotonen1631]

​@@AngelVazquez-vs9xp what

[@HerbeyStudies]

KZbin is the easiest way to pick out gullible kids and form parasocial relationships. These kids pedestalise the KZbinrs and they game advantage of that. It’s kind of like that for most positions of power, the job just tends to attract a certain type of individual

[@WeegeepieYT]

1:33:22 I did not expect HIM to show up.. Absolutely disgusting individual, and I don't know who the "many people" is but he definitely hasn't been up to no good years later There's more behind the scenes but I'm definitely not allowed to share that unfortunately. That part may make me biased but he's absolutely not to be trusted ever again Nonetheless, took me a few days to have time to watch but great iceberg :)

[@bigheadshorty]

WeegeepieYT

[@Daansstuff-alt]

Starman3 is super disgusting and messed up. Hate that guy.

[@jakezoet-jd1wk]

Who’s starman3 and what did he do?

[@bigheadshorty]

​@@jakezoet-jd1wkit's in the video

[@jakezoet-jd1wk]

@@bigheadshorty I know that he’s in the video, I’m just saying what did he do to be in the video?

[@Pheminon1]

Jellybean's unwarranted hate is honestly so sad. She was 17 and was being bullied by grown ass adults. Is she annoying? Sure. But you know what I did? I just didn't watch her. You know... Like a NORMAL human being?? I'll never understand how people go out of their way to ACTIVELY hate on someone. If you don't like the person, then don't watch them. Your interaction with people you hate is literally just boosting their algorithmic standings

[@Vesperad0]

I was very overwhelmed when I tried to watch some of their content, mainly cuz it seems aimed towards younger audiences and even my AuDHD couldn't keep up. It was so easy to just, never watch anything of theirs again?? And that "masterpiece" spam was hardly as annoying as any other spam that came from other youtubers. I wish i had examples but I've blocked them from memory, apparently. The only way they could deserve to be listed with these other people (i get its a controversy iceberg, but i mean shitty and possibly irredeemable people) is if they're revealed to be a groomer... unfortunately like every other youtuber from day one to now.

[@BueorrFalhen]

I think it was the promotion of the spam, and how far her fans took it. It's pretty annoying when you find a video you like, so you go down to the comments to see what other people thought of it, just to see a ton of spam messages filling up the comment section, dwarfing the comments of other like-minded people like you that wanted to see other people's opinion on the video.

[@ilivory974]

Jellybean was definitely annoying, but I don’t think they deserved the hate they got. As far as I know, they never did anything anywhere close to what others on this iceberg have been exposed or accused of doing

[@deodusk]

youtubers with over a 300k subscribers when they see a 13 year old girl : 🤑🤑🤑

[@ArjunTheRageGuy]

some youtubers when children: 😛

[@wysockifamily1747]

CHILDREN?! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@actualocto]

IMO the amount of hate Jellybean got was kinda uncalled for. sure, they mightve been a bit cringey but thats all they really were, cringey.

[@Chris-ot9bk]

the hate was just because they were a easy target. Pretty sure they were a minor (correct me if I was wrong), they were LGBTQ+, they had a phrase be used a little too much by their fanbase that got popular, and a lot of people care more about harassing someone for existing than calling out actual bad people on youtube like pedophiles and racist

[@melt_brain]

@@Chris-ot9bkhe was a minor at the time of the peak hate they received. he was 19 around the time it began to fizzle.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

A majority of the haters were actually just jumping on the hate bandwagon for views and subscribers

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

This is the internet we're talking about here the worst thing you could be seen as is "cringe"

[@aldiyaralmassov3378]

Exactly, bro was a kid - we were cringe as well when we were kids

[@OwOlord9000]

The first death at my elementary school in over 80 years was from a kid doing the blackout challenge. His 8 year old brother found him dying and wasn't able to save him. These things really are dangerous, please don't hurt yourselves for Internet fame.

[@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines]

Omg I've learned so many things from this video... I knew about most of these controveries but not the nitty gritty details of what you described...

[@SwaggyG_2102]

1:35:54 "If the best of 3 resulted in heads, he would kill himself" Slight correction here, but if the coin landed on heads, Randy was going to kill his parents THEN himself. So either way, people were going to die, regardless of the coin's outcome.

[@Shiraraxi]

You’ve come so far - from memes to legitimate 2 hour icebergs based on KZbin. Well done Toasted!

[@pixel_lotus]

I used to watch Lionmaker when I was a kid. He inspired my interest in RP Minecraft series (like aphmau, DSMP, samgladiator, etc). I was devastated about the news. I never looked further into it as I was too young to understand back then.

[@cvcsm.]

I literally remember being around like 10 or 11 y/o, scrolling on KZbin (and being subscribed to Logan atm) clicked on the video, watched all of it and was left… unsettled. 1. I didn’t catch on that it was an actual dead corpse hanging off from the tree (I didn’t know that someone could actually do that irl- as having more of a child-like mentality). 2. I found it super shocking how things like this were able to be easily shown on the media (wether it being fake or not). 3. I didn’t understand why Logan was quite calm throughout the video (though I now understand he was quite shocked aswell) and allowed for this to be publicized for everyone to see. Overall I was confused, surprised, and left questioning what I had just watched. I think I down played it more as I didn’t really understand the seriousness of the video and how it escalated beyond than I realized, I did a day or so later learn the meaning of the forest scenes from the video (about suicide and what it means, and how the person hung himself there. rip). I was baffled, and least to say when I saw the apology video, I kinda gagged as I then completely understood what had happened; what he recorded, his response and how he apologized- it felt so wrong to realize I had watched that. Sorry for the rant, I just remembered I had watched it when it first came out, like within hours of it being uploaded. That’s my experience and how I remembered learning about suicide, thanks Logan!

[@ccomrrade]

boy if this was real i would NOT want to swim in the ocean

[@lemoneer7474]

if this was real the ocean would simply cease to exist

[@someguyontheinternet9683]

how did you comment 1 day ago if this was published 1 hour ago

[@bigheadshorty]

​@@someguyontheinternet9683Maybe it was unlisted?

[@lemoneer7474]

@@someguyontheinternet9683 Some people get early access to some videos I think

[@jbmuteboi2381]

Agree taking the dislike button down was messed up and now I accidentally click on the report or download button when I'm just trying to save a vid

[@burntoutgiftedkid]

THIS is THE iceberg i needed. thank u

[@silverloaf_]

ballslover32 was such a legend. hope them the best in life

[@slaytallica]

fr

[@ramens]

Great vid. The later tiers had some pretty disturbing entries. Extremely shocked about Akmal’s sentencing since Okole practically set him up. Tragic. Also found 1:50:05 to 1:50:48 slightly funny since that’s how a lot of online arguments go down, as disturbing as it is.

[@toastedcherries]

imagine if adam listened to that comment

[@clingfray3]

@@toastedcherries Adam had no idea what he was getting into, huh...

[@ricardozetino6907]

​@@clingfray3 Which Adam are you referencing ?

[@ryanstardust_]

​@@ricardozetino6907 the Adam in the comment chain that op timestamped

[@ricardozetino6907]

@@ryanstardust_ You mean Adam Lancaster ?

[@DJ_JOHNN]

Man this video was really well done, props to you man 💪

[@rp8098]

I live close to the Weis in PA where pioneersproduction shot up. I remember seeing the news about it and going right to his youtube channel, it gave me goosebumps looking through his videos and how he had this complete obsession with that one cartoon character girl. I feel like people have to be more alert now when others post worrying statements online while owning firearms. Prayers to those who passed in the shooting, I didn't know them personally but it definitely left the town in shock. The weis reopened but I can't bring myself to shop there again.

[@olivialucretia2300]

This video does such a great job highlighting internet stranger danger. Pedophiles, racists, rapers, murderers, animal abusers, anyone can make an account and show or not show the dirtiest and most foul aspects of their personalities. The truth has a away of coming to light with fuckers like that. Excellent work.

[@sirfettofficial5764]

Insane to think what the world would be without the extensive amount of things that has happened on KZbin

[@sumrandomfurry]

good lord that vid was long, enjoyed each and every part of it.

[@sun_cola3772]

Thanks you for the last the entry, everything seems so depressing.

[@witch7530]

The marina Joyce situation actually never got any better and has only gotten worse recently. Shes made a video 7 months ago explaining she "cured" her MS (an uncurable disease) with things like herbs and Marijuana. Its really sad it seems shes just completely gone now.

[@notsojharedtroll23]

Really? Need to check it out

[@CorbinSikes]

Dorian Foyil came across my tiktok right after watching thay video and he was live it seemed pretty normal, but it spiral down hill pretty fast, your video was very well put together!

[@thedoggwalkerss6434]

Amazing video I cant even imagine how long it took to make this masterpiece well done man

[@t00l.sh3d]

i wish people actually realized why the callmecarson situation was wrong - it wasn’t the age gap, it was the power dynamic. if you’re an obsessed fan and your idol messages you and starts a relationship with you, you would be willing to do ANYTHING for them. even if you weren’t comfortable getting s3xual with them, you probably would because you love them. celebrities, including internet personalities, should never date fans

[@kylesky74]

and who gives you the right to tell people who they can or can't date just because their a fan that doesn't automatically make it a power dynamic that depends on the individual and motives of the person in question. like pewdiepie dated and married a fan of his.

[@t00l.sh3d]

@@kylesky74 okay but the one fan who tweeted said she tweeted at carson and asked him to date her or whatever. if you’re willing to do that as a fan then there is some sort of parasocial relationship there

[@randomisntavailable]

fr people defend him with the age gap and just move on like it’s nothing.. they don’t even begin to mention the power dynamic. he’s still in the wrong but no one’s talking about it ☹️

[@elsienova4269]

so carson should never date anyone again? Get off ur fuckig high horse. Its common knowledge that popular youtubers like swaggersouls jschlatt and others use their social power and charisma to fuck anything that moves. Carson didn't go and make a fucking movie scenario, she met a girl who already watched his videos. The reason he was killed off socially is because all of his "online friends" were jealous of him and wanted him gone from the platform. KZbin/Twitter and America as a whole should evaporate itself already, these people have no connection to reality and are egotestical mind drones.

[@kami_narisama]

​@@randomisntavailablebecause power dynamic is literally the least problematic thing you could ask for especially when it's not even illegal.

[@xephrou]

this just fascinates me because like. in the grand sea of all that there is on youtube, it's sad that the biggest faces are variably some of the worst people the site has to offer,, it is so incredibly easy to just be a good person and be aware of your own actions, how does this keep happening. it's so sickening

[@antifantastisch4467]

Narcissists like to be in public & put themselves out there. Narcissists also behave horribly & don't care about others. There you have it.

[@androow1983]

"racist", "anti sematic" or similar, are just jokes. That is it. Why are people so offended over a joke? How are people so uneducated on what is offensive and what is not offensive. Making a "racist" joke doesnt make you racist, since you have no intention to discriminate against a race, youre just making a joke that you think is funny. That is how it works. When its a joke, it doesnt make you anti sematic or racist or anything like that.

[@androow1983]

@@antifantastisch4467 "racist", "anti sematic" or similar, are just jokes. That is it. Why are people so offended over a joke? How are people so uneducated on what is offensive and what is not offensive. Making a "racist" joke doesnt make you racist, since you have no intention to discriminate against a race, youre just making a joke that you think is funny. That is how it works. When its a joke, it doesnt make you anti sematic or racist or anything like that.

[@xephrou]

@@androow1983 respectfully, i am talking about the multiple other instances in this video of youtubers committing actual crimes. but go ahead with your little gotcha moment, spotlight's yours... and for the record, making those jokes is what makes you racist or anti-semetic*, like, never once in my life have i thought to make a joke regarding someone's race or religion. saying the n word is not a joke. making jokes about h*tler or the h*locaust isn't funny. and especially doing it in front of thousands of people? my original point was that it's easy enough not to do it, so why would you want to?

[@androow1983]

@@xephrou Didnt say that saying the n word was a joke, it isnt. But everything else is. Doesnt matter if you dont think its funny. World doesnt revolve around you bro. Its still NOT racist or anti semetic. Educate yourself on racism and jokes lil bro.

[@Mits_]

This isn’t as related, but I really love your choice in music for these videos. I was really surprised to see a Yume N1kk1 fan game’s music in the description!! These ambient tracks remind me of Half-Life 1 and Portal 1 soundtracks, games that live rent free in my head lol

[@gasolineprovider5378]

crazy that i used to know you, keep up the good work, amazing content

[@kikos_brews]

I hate the state of the world at this point. So many people are so horrendous. I can't imagine how people can do these things.

[@amogussy345]

It's simple people are like parasites they hide their true selves from others and do what they want to fulfill their sick needs some do it better than others or they just do it for fun or views either way we're all just fucked up

[@harrypottah8889]

People have been barbaric since the beginning of time…. Not an excuse but just pointing that out

[@Fredfellow]

I think the "Webcam video from" controversy should've been mentioned on this iceberg. A few KZbinrs (including Pyrocynical) made videos covered it when it was active, it was similar to the Elsagate controversy but instead of fake kids content it was videos of underage children being posted on throwaway accounts by creeps.

[@anthonygrych8724]

So is it similar to the daily capper

[@Fredfellow]

@@anthonygrych8724 Possibly.

[@anthonygrych8724]

@@Fredfellow when did this Webcam video from happen

[@Fredfellow]

@@anthonygrych8724 Somewhere in late 2016 to early 2017.

[@anthonygrych8724]

@@Fredfellow so around the same time as elsagate

[@pixelpossum49]

thank you SO MUCH for the warning to skip if you are eating. been super busy, hadnt eaten all day and felt a little unwell, finally sat down with some good food. i also have kinda a weak stomach lol. if i had seen whatever it was i probably wouldve felt a little sick. thank you so much lol

[@lashlimed1722]

genuinely going to struggle to sleep after this one, thankyou

[@Just_A_Guy_Here.]

Off-topic to the video, but I remember encountering an obscure 600 subscriber KZbin channel which had a whole zoophile community on its community page, mostly filled with questionable but alarming pieces of art. Imagine the amount of communities like this hidden across the website. KZbin really has to fix itself.

[@shard-dt2cr]

do you know the name of the channel?

[@Just_A_Guy_Here.]

@@shard-dt2cr Yes I know, but its all in X errors as my device (2015 samsung tablet) isn't able to register such letters, meaning that the user uses a certain font or symbol for the username. But I know where the user can be found. The user is usually found in videos that talk about zoophilia controversies (usually furry videos), and he is found in the reply section of certain comments. The user by it's actions defends zoophilia just like any other zoophile defender. From his community page, the real life images that show, the user has a pet coyote and two large dogs, and by the image thread, the user prefers the coyote. If you happen to find him by chance, you can tell me his actual username. If you are willing to find him, here are the cules. 1. Short username 2. Pro-zoophile feral furry art (community) 3. No videos 4. Cropped yiff wolf furry banner (just my guess as to what the banner trully shows, not a yiff explorer) 5. Found mostly in furry controversy videos (videos that talk about khord Kitty, Kero, and some other videos) I go in depth into certain topics, so thank me later.

[@Just_A_Guy_Here.]

@@shard-dt2cr Yes, but the username is all but in X errors, as my device (2015 samsung tablet) isn't able to register such letters, meaning that the user uses a certain font or symbol for the username. The user is usually found in the replies of comments defending zoophilia in furry controversy videos.

[@shard-dt2cr]

@@Just_A_Guy_Here. oh ok thanks im trying to make an documentary on zoophiles

[@Just_A_Guy_Here.]

@@shard-dt2cr Well hope that goes out well, can't wait to see if it ever comes out.

[@Kaisersaurus]

correction on content cop. The Leafy one is the only one where he focuses a huge portion on appearance and it was meant to kinda give Leafy a taste of his own medicine. otherwise good video man, cheers

[@clamerGA]

i love how the end of a very dark and informative video about horrible things in the youtube community ends with the snake easter egg great stuff

[@fortuneia]

for reference, this is how hairy my butt is right now

[@GrainofZand]

This video was very informing, but please, to anyone who reads this, never refer to a pedophile as a "minor attracted person", this only gratifies pedophiles, thank you

[@flordelizhawk358]

Jesus, I knew KZbin can be a disturbing place but this just amplified it. Though I accidentally snoozed during your video and having small pieces of the video you were talking about put into dream form so that didn’t help. Also for some reason in my dream I was visiting Germany I don’t even know why.

[@youtube_bat3811]

that’s exactly what happened to me except without the Germany part

[@diesemautokerl2181]

1:02:00

[@cloaker8362]

Bro great video just to turn up and take a nice long nap, great content

[@user-vl4zi9vl8g]

I kinda respect Jenna Marbles for what she did. It really depends on if she's genuinely learned anything. But honestly, I'd give her a chance to speak if she just came forward with her mistakes without someone having to out her. Sure - it probably was going to happen anyway, but at least she didn't try to take the videos down or just ignore it for as long as possible.

[@user-ls9ic5vr1g]

Its so stange that most of these controversies came before 2013. Just shows you how before the mid 2010s the internet really was the wild west.

[@noelleholidaystan]

hell yeah a two hour long video essay!!! but. the fact that half of these controversies were about creeps is horrifying

[@PDXD3V]

rip twomad though

[@cammyman32]

This was a good video mate! Liked and subscribed! ❤👍

[@Gamer23car]

this is the most insane documentary i have seen on youtube (revolving controversy) and regardless of the fact it's 2 hours long the quality of the content remains consistent as hell, hats off to you man this is an insane feat in and of itself

[@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj]

Now as a monkey myself, I would like to pitch in and say that one theory I have heard about the whole "monkey hate" thing is that in many places, they are seen as pests, which is why people hate them so much. Though some of the comments I've read have been... pretty graphic.

[@ConnorDrawss]

That theory makes sense, but the other one I've heard about is that when they see the monkeys get hurt they are actually envisioning.. something else. (like certain people. it's very disturbing. I'm so sorry to the poor animals.)

[@devofficialchannel]

​@@ConnorDrawssGiven how most serial killers tend to start off with murdering animals, it's very worrying that the "monkey hate" will lead to them moving on to humans.

[@Icouldntcomeupwithaclevernames]

You are the goat in BMC bro

[@Pudding404]

This video unlocked core memories in the best worst way possible for me. Don't know if I should thank you, but this video is amazing, lol.

[@jonzo22]

This is a great video to remember all the drama we forgot about

[@TonyToribio-zn7lk]

Me: “I don’t want to watch a 1 hour and 30 minutes long movie” Also me: *Watches 1 hour and 51 minutes of KZbin controversies*

[@atomictransfusion]

fr

[@bigheadshorty]

Lol

[@MrAsianPie]

I'm in awe of the dedication that went to making this video! (Also I hate that fact that I am at least vaguely aware of most of these controversies)

[@reapergirl2529]

Yeah like I didn’t know a lot of details but I have heard probably ⅓ of the names in this video. Also sorry for late reply lol

[@C-shorts_Animations]

You gotta add the ssniperwolf dox lore to this💀

[@atixai]

if only he could time travel

[@Man_Aslume]

I hate this movie because it doesn't have a ending Im not checking in to the Ssniperwolf vs jacks films

[@JefftheGDPlayer]

I’ve watched this like 5 times never gets old

[@UncommonAntics]

1:45:30 Jared was my neighbor when everything with him happened, he lived a house away from me, I was really young so I don't remember a lot other than. a bunch of cop cars on our street and my dad being interviewed on the news. we had to go to my grandmother's from there. the only reason I probably remember it so much was because I was mad I didn't get to go home and play my new Shrek game on our new PS3. I still live down the road from his family's house that still live there. they recently built a brick wall to avoid people asking questions and bothering them, his father seems to be a very nice guy with a big beard and smile. I didn't realize until about last year how big that event really was until I was going to pima myself and my teacher brought him up.

[@Super-ty5no]

I can't tell if this is lucky or unlucky

[@projectember728]

I like these kind of videos You sound pretty professional and unbiased even during some of the darker and heinous entries 10/10

[@Lunar_91104]

Nice video bro, keep'em coming!

[@Pheminon1]

Dude some of these are unlocking memories in my mind. I COMPLETELY forgot about the Google+ thing. I remember everyone would spam the "This is Bob. Bob does not like Google+" comments EVERYWHERE.

[@vSytho]

2 hours is crazy, you outdid yourself on this one toastedcherries