The Ypsilanti Ripper and The Michigan Murders

[@cassiecavataio2982]

As a Michigan native, Simon's pronunciations of Michigan cities and counties is everything. Sometimes I guess I forget that they might be difficult to pronounce if you didn't grow up knowing it. Thank you for covering this.

[@jrmckim]

As a Louisiana native, I feel yall. 😅

[@jimlawn5302]

Agreed - I went to Eastern, and most Americans don't know how to pronounce Ypsilanti

[@stigmaoftherose]

​@jimlawn5302 we probably can't pronounce it as that is clearly not a real word. At least add an "i" between the "Y" and "p" we speak English not Welsh.

[@Johns_Noodly_Grandma_Arms]

​​@@stigmaoftherose the Y has an i sound when pronouncing it. So it's pronounced as (i)psilanti

[@stigmaoftherose]

@@Johns_Noodly_Grandma_Arms so it's not even "yip"? SMH

[@alisonredmiles6372]

Oh no Simon, three men in a car is much much worse than one.

[@jennaxoxox4821]

Simon is so naive and wholesome. Never crosses his mind that people can form gang mentality really quickly.

[@MichelleCWeber]

I wonder if they were involved.

[@louiscox8602]

Yeah, I thought the same thing too

[@arosewithoutthorn]

Grand Rapidian here, i'm having a ball listening to Simon struggle with all the French and Native American location names in Michigan 😂😂 I shouldn't be so excited to hear familiar towns. This video is about murder.

[@mwmxktty]

Hi neighbor! Also a Rapidian. Hearing the familiar towns - especially Simon trying to pronounce them - is a nice distraction from focusing solely on the gruesomeness of the crimes. Maybe how dramas or horror movies tend to have a comedic character to lighten the mood a bit? With that said… the comments on this video have me worrying how I pronounce Ypsilanti as a West Michigander. I’m pretty sure I’ve always pronounced it correctly, but after hearing Simon all I can think of is that I’ve been pronouncing it wrong. haha

[@LillibitOfHere]

Hi neighbor! My mom grew up in Detroit born in 55. It’s no wonder why she constantly reminded me never to accept a ride.

[@RelearningPeace]

Hi fellow Michigander! Detroiter here 👋🏾

[@BCH092385]

Lansing resident here.....same...lol

[@technicaltea228]

Flint native here. It's gold listening to Simon fail to pronounce our cities.

[@MissBlueEyeliner]

As a woman I have to say that I wouldn’t ever feel safe getting in a car with a man I didn’t know but I would definitely choose to get in a car with 1 man I don’t know rather than 3! I’d have a better chance of fighting off 1 and no chance of fighting off 3.

[@DrummerBoy233]

The book "Those Girls" made me think similar but even questionable for 1 man. I highly recommend reading it. A very disturbing and confronting story but very well written.

[@DrewLSsix]

The idea that you could count on even 2 "good" men to protect you from one bad actor is statistically fantasy. There are too many tearful testimonies from accomplices and witnesses that just couldn't bring themselves to intervene.

[@YourOlderBrotherChannel]

From Ypsi, born and raised! My mother was actually a young adult in Ypsi at this time, and dyed her hair to supposedly avoid being John’s preferred type of victim ☠️ Also not sure if it’s covered later on, but for anyone wondering, Ypsilanti is pronounced “Ipsilanti”, not “Yipsilanti”!

[@LizzyMom]

Yeah, only folks “not from here” say “yipsi” instead of “ipsi” 😂😂

[@YourOlderBrotherChannel]

@@LizzyMom Can’t say I blame them, it’s an odd spelling for sure hahaha

[@rebekahdane5382]

Hopped into this video so quick to hear how Simon tackled Ypsilanti, he actually didn't do too bad. I've heard Albion pronounced worse than adding that Yip.

[@CGingRun]

Try having someone say Mackinac 😂😂oh north Midwestern names, not like we have any indigenous history

[@apoisonberry]

@@CGingRun you ain’t wrong, we have a lot of crazy names here but Ypsi is Greek and not Native American as most people assume.

[@andreagriffiths3512]

Awwww the art award being in memory is a great memorial for someone. It’s awesome.

[@Numb3r3dDays]

18:27: "I feel like it would be safer, as a woman, to get in a car with three unknown men than just one unknown man. The chances of three random dudes being psycho is low." Bro, everyone is worse in packs. Animals, men, humanity in general.

[@caphryne]

real i'd be terrified of getting like, gang r*ped or something i would absolutely not get in a car with 3 random men thats almost scarier.

[@probably_notbob5794]

I was looking for someone commenting on that lol. Chances are if one dude in a group is a psycho then he would have gravitated towards other men with similar traits. Birds of a feather and all that. Nope, no thank you. Absolutely not.

[@tamarinmangold1414]

Exactly. All I could think of was gang rape. 😰

[@RashedeGazzi]

Imagine that you are standing at the bus stop and three beautiful young women pull up and say "Hey cutie you want a ride?" That happened to me. I did not get in that car cause stuff like that only happens in teenage fantasies. It's likely I would have never been seen again.

[@probably_notbob5794]

@@RashedeGazzi creepy! I hear human traffickers sometimes use women to lure in their targets since people tend to trust them more. Scary stuff

[@probably_notbob5794]

Idk, I think 3 dudes is definitely scarier than one. As the saying goes, “birds of a feather flock together” and that is not a risk I want to take

[@MortanAMrk]

I just wouldnt get into a car with a guy i didnt know no matter the count

[@KraftyKreator]

Yeah, the idea of three men in a car, not that I’m getting in with one or three… it reminds me of that horrible attack on Anita(?) I think her name was, in Australia. Of course they abducted her off the street but still. A group of men is always more frightening than one.

[@PassiveAssassin]

I'm sure it's lack of intimate knowledge, but I really appreciated the exploration of the victims who they were as opposed to following around the pos who took them. They felt like the focus, and this bell end was just the shit stained foot note. It's one of my favorite bits of writing on CC as of yet. Great work.

[@athenaathenaisc1473]

@@PassiveAssassin 💯

[@adenkyramud5005]

This is why i like watching this channel so much. Making sure the victims are remembered, in a sea of tellings that just focus on the perpetrators

[@trishapellis]

@@adenkyramud5005 The perpetrators, and the gory sensationalism. I love Simon's factual tone, unwillingness to sensationalize it or give the morbid details, and his compassion with the victims and insistence on making them the center of the episodes. And also his cute stories about his kids and other ramblings to break through the horribleness every now and then. This is the best true crime channel on KZbin.

[@Gayngisconisgayngisconisgay]

Reasons why David Ramsey went from cynic, posing as skeptical, to realizing Luke was more historically and intimately connected to the locals when you read his accounts for yourself

[@rachelp2468]

One of my mom's friends and high school classmates was one of the victims. It's so important to remember the victims and not glorify the perpetrators. Nice job, as always in keeping the priorities straight.

[@paulwolter8304]

Wonder if your mum knows any Wolters?

[@bertvosburg558]

He's at Cotton Correctional Facility in Jackson and in a wheel chair now as I just looked him up and his new MDOC ID photo was taken yesterday. I looked him up a couple years ago and he was at Ionia IMAX When they get old and can't get around they send them to Cotton or Coldwater and their bunky pushes them to chow etc. I always thought Michigan should have the death penalty but maybe it was more punishment to sit in there watching the world go by for 55 years and counting?

[@caricaturecontest7899]

Sorry to hear that 😔. I also love the narrators who pay detail to the victims. We'd much rather hear about them and carry on their legacy. I could care less about the perpetrator except to know he's locked up and got his... oh and also, how to prevent this from happening to anyone else

[@caricaturecontest7899]

​@@bertvosburg558good point. Spend eternity thinking you could be free had you left the poor girls alone.

[@bertvosburg558]

@@caricaturecontest7899 They say he's still mentally the Frat boy he was 55 years ago, never grew up because he never had to. I have a stone on my office desk that reads, "Without stress I'd have no energy at all" and it was My Mothers. HE never had the daily stress and successes One has in normal life so has stayed "stuck" in his own hell.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

3:05 - Chapter 1 - Mary fleszar 15:20 - Chapter 2 - Joan elspeth schell 24:10 - Chapter 3 - Jane Mixer 30:45 - Chapter 4 - Maralynn skelton 39:40 - Chapter 5 - Dawn basom 46:50 - Chapter 6 - Alice kalom 51:45 - Chapter 7 - The psychic 56:20 - Chapter 8 - Karen sue beineman 1:03:35 - Chapter 9 - John norman collins 1:08:40 - Chapter 10 - Snowball 1:12:20 - Chapter 11 - The californian connection 1:16:25 - Chapter 12 - The original co ed killer 1:18:45 - Dismembered appendices

[@ingridfong-daley5899]

Happy Dreams!

[@kirschrot77]

Thank you for doing this list!

[@Veronica-gr5se]

At first, as a Michigander, I was so excited to hear a podcast about Michigan until I realized that it was probably about murderers and death. Listening to you butcher names of Midwest cities, particularly Michigan cities, however, has been the highlight of this podcast

[@caricaturecontest7899]

😂😂

[@janinestrives]

John Norman Collins was, and remains, my childhood boogeyman. I was very young when I read an article in the Detroit News about the case. There was a photo and my first thought was "oh, he's cute". After the article I was pretty traumatized and for years all I remembered was that he killed a girl and painted a basement floor to hide the blood. Thank you for covering this case and for providing so much information I had never heard before.

[@phoeneon6038]

Thank you Emma, your scripts are always so well written, one of my favourite writers for this channel!

[@feanacar]

I really wish you would cover the 1955 Chicago child murders. Very strange case that ties a lot of different victims to one central location. Keep up the good work guys you’re wonderful

[@calicosta]

I haven’t heard of this one!

[@AaronBeSpeedy]

That was an hour and twenty two minutes of my undivided attention! The writing and the delivery of this story was amazing! Beautiful story telling ❤

[@judybowen2881]

YAAS! So excited for this! Haven't had a chance to listen yet. JNC's murders happened in my hometown, and my Aunt was in study groups with JNC during the times of the murders, and often got rides home from the study groups from him. After he was arrested, she was so affected by it all, she had to drop out of Uni.

[@AnieLoves616SpeedGang]

It pronounced Ipsilanti, like Ipswich. 💜 Hello from Ypsilanti!

[@blackfire762]

Was literally waiting for someone to say this 😂😂😂

[@icekraze07]

Started the video and as soon as I heard him pronounce Ypsilanti came to the comments. … but I get it… Michigan has some hard to pronounce or weird pronunciations. The mix of French, British English, and native languages make for very strange pronunciations. And yes I know Ypsi is named after a Greek guy… but my point still stands.

[@SusantheNerdy]

@@icekraze07 I will say though, if you google "Ypsilanti pronunciation" It says "Sounds like ip·suh·lan·tee" and has both audio and lip motions LMAO

[@paulwolter8304]

Livin on Bemis... Hey neighbor

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

A small side pleasure is watching closed caption trying to deal with weird Michigan town names and Simon's accent.

[@sewgood568]

Yep, same with Scottish towns 😂

[@MultipleCatharsis]

And Sheboygan

[@ardenalexa94]

Listening him pronounce Arkansas as ar Kansas and him pronouncing the s in Illinois is also funny too. Can’t say I’m great at pronouncing words either but as an American, I can’t help but finding it funny

[@brandyjean7015]

​@@sewgood568Scottish & New Zealand true crime channels: closed captioning is more hilarious than helpful!

[@pinkbubblesnake]

​@ardenalexa94 Ar kansas drives me batty too. I'm in the UK and I know how to pronounce it, Simons just trying to piss you guys off I think 😂

[@marieonishenko]

The respect which is given to the victims on this channel is wonderful. It doesn’t feel like a spectacle.

[@Dishonorable.Kim.Jong.Cannone]

Simon you should profile the Jacob Wetterling kidnapping from Minnesota. He was taken at gunpoint while riding his bike with his brother and a friend in October ‘89. He was 11. The case was solved in the summer of 2016. Solved kidnappings are rare especially after 27 years. It’s a sad but crazy story.

[@TourettesMajestic]

Was he found alive??? I’m almost too scared to ask

[@aloeme]

@@TourettesMajestic No, he died the day he disappeared

[@athenaathenaisc1473]

YES! I've been waiting for one of your writers to take an interest in this one. I read a book about the Michigan Murders when I was spending the summer with my Grandma in Jackson, Michigan. (I lived in Oakland County, which would have a serial killer of its own in the late 70s). The book terrified me, but I reminded myself he was in prison, until I got to the end and realized he was at the State Prison of Southern Michigan .... in Jackson! I don't think I slept a wink that night. Silly, if you saw SMP, you'd realize no one was getting out of there. 😅 JNC is still alive, he's still incarcerated and occasionally responds to letters from KZbinrs. Thank you, Emma. You're a rock star. ❤

[@rdfox76]

The OCCK? God, I wonder whether that would be better on CasCrim or Into the Darkness, given what cases they *did* manage to solve by tracking down leads on him...

[@athenaathenaisc1473]

@@rdfox76 They've done the OCCK here on Cas Crim.

[@PeachM0de]

Thank you for highlighting the mitten, Emma. As a Michigander it’s a change of pace to hear a story that I’m unfamiliar with.

[@lindyjohnson4293]

Same here✋🏻

[@athenaathenaisc1473]

@PeachM0de he's done the Michigan Murders, the Oakland County Child Killer and Jimmy Hoffa. Michigan can stand down. 😆

[@thesweetteasystem1108]

Tbf michigan is really the only state that can do that besides techinically florida can but lets be honest with the states phallic shape we are all very glad they don't like imagine that I live here points at the head of the phaliic object

[@HahnJames]

I graduated from EMU in 2014 and worked at a small church across the street from EMU's freshman dorm complex for a few years. Even younger residents of the area can still tell you where the bodies were found. It is amazing how such a harrowing series of events can leave an indelible mark on the collective consciousness of a people. As a graduate also, of Central Michigan University, I did not know that John N. Collins had a connection albeit brief, to CMU.

[@EveLavellan]

Wait rhe thumbnail confuses me, I thought Ed Kemper was the Co-Ed Killer. I guess it's not an exclusive title, just threw me off for a minute.

[@corey4109]

I honestly wouldn't put it passed the media/news to recycle titles. I think we're well aware that they're not the most original with their titles

[@waz207]

You aren’t the only one. Thought Kemper was the only co-Ed killer

[@whittar]

Looked it up and it's on his Wikipedia in "other names" section so yeah he was called that too, I thought it was a thumbnail issue at first too.

[@bethscott4330]

Right. I took a double look at the photo and was confused

[@stellarart3444]

Yeah, I don't get it. He had his own nickname.

[@MrAbraham3ro]

I love listening to Simon try to pronounce Michigan cities and counties.

[@arosewithoutthorn]

I was surprised he got Cheboygan right!

[@wickedwitch1392]

I think every city was pronounced correctly. Luckly he didn't have to say Mackinac.

[@arosewithoutthorn]

@wickedwitch1392 he said Muskegon right a few times, and wrong a few times. Like he couldn't quite decide 😂

[@kimberini6465]

Michigan and Wisconsin are such a challenge for.him with the indigenous names!!

[@SusantheNerdy]

@@wickedwitch1392 I agree, he is lucky he's never had to pronounce Mackinac LOL Though I remember my parents jokingly calling it in the purposefully wrong pronunciation "Mackaknick-nack" That's the only reason I would be able to remember how to spell it growing up LOL It always makes me smile now. That nostalgia done, did you not listen to the yipping he was doing to poor Ypsi?

[@deathbeforedishonor9012]

Wooohoooo my favorite KZbin host and one of my favorite KZbin channels!!! Here as soon as it drops !

[@cristalhagen]

As someone living by Willis, has lived in Ypsi, and spent my life hearing this story, I just want to thank you for doing this, and say I absolutely love the way you say Ypsilanti. ❤

[@faronrich9381]

I grew up in the Ann Arbor area and was 11-13 years old during the Michigan Murders. Girls under the age of 16 felt safe until 13-year-old Dawn Basom was murdered. Her murder sent SE Michigan into a total panic. In 1978, escapee Ted Bundy went to the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor first, but a brutal snowstorm drove him out and on to a new destination, Florida. That 24-inch snowstorm saved lives in Michigan. (At the time, any self-respecting Michigander should have been able to differentiate between a Pontiac Bonneville and a Ford Fairlane. They don't look the same at all.)

[@AaronBeSpeedy]

One is wayyyyy smaller and looks very similar to another car from the same company 🐎

[@kimberini6465]

They look similar.to me, but being the motor city and car capital would make most Michiganders well aware of the difference. LOL. My husband would.laugh at me for not knowing, but he is a "car guy."

[@dismurrart6648]

It's wild that the snow always sends people to Florida from michigan.

[@DeathByBlonde1]

Honestly, looking at both vehicles I can see where the confusion comes from. I’m not old enough to really know either cars, but I can always tell a Pontiac’s signature front end styling. I own two Pontiac G8’s and the front end has that signature style. That’s the only reason I would be able to say whether or not it was a Pontiac or a Ford.

[@Gayngisconisgayngisconisgay]

Idk, man. We lived there since 56 and never felt tense even afterwards.

[@tassadarc8069]

RE: it being safer to get into a car with three random dudes than one random dude; absolutely not.

[@terryjohnson5579]

Thanks emma and the gang of basement dwellers for always helping me time out my work schedule and consistently aid in getting through the rough days. Take care if you hearts and minds as you take care with the research and script writing on these.

[@BadAtLifedocx]

As many of my other Michigan natives have said in this comment section, this episode is a little surreal. I’ve lived my entire life in Ypsi, fortunately well after the Michigan Murders, but being so familiar with the locations of these crimes is still something. My dad spent over three decades in law enforcement and did get to work with (however briefly) some of the officers and detectives that were responsible for bringing this monster to justice. May these poor women rest in peace.

[@paulwolter8304]

Hey neighbor!!!

[@GrouchierBear]

I've heard it claimed that the decline in serial killers in more recent times may be tied to the increase in spree killings like mass shootings, with budding serial killers being attracted to the media frenzy around them.

[@EmrysMerlin8807]

As a west Michigan native, hearing Simon pronounce Muskegon gives me a chuckle.

[@rebekahdane5382]

That made me chuckle a lot too

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

How is it pronounced? As an American, I've never heard of that town and probably would pronounce it the same way, lol.

[@alfveba1]

muh · skee · gn. ​@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley

[@lindyjohnson4293]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValleyThe emphasis is on the second syllable: muss-KEE-gun

[@trevorreniger5670]

Hey, he did pretty well on Ypsi. I was impressed. But there's so many native American names in Michigan than even Michiganders don't get them right. Lol

[@kennethbontempo1031]

Holy cow as a wisconsin boy hearing Simon pronounce sheboygan is an instant classic!

[@AdamOBrien29]

Works both ways. Good luck saying Worcestershire

[@alyssajakielek687]

Also Muskegon lol

[@Dishonorable.Kim.Jong.Cannone]

I’m from Wayzata MN. It’s commonly butchered. (Why-zet-ah)

[@Dishonorable.Kim.Jong.Cannone]

@@AdamOBrien29I’m a grammar snob that knows how it’s pronounced and I still struggle with that one! 🤣

[@Aliziun]

Fellow Wisconsinite (turned Michigander in recent months, I’m sorry). Love it when Simon tries to say native names like Sheboygan lmao

[@emilyflotilla931]

Thanks, Emma, amazing script! Please consider our latest serial killer in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Garry Dean Artman. A long haul trucker. His trial was last year, in Kent County. May his victims RIP..

[@linseyskelly9524]

I live in Ypsilanti. It's so funny to hear you mispronounce the Michigan words, most of them with Native American roots, with your British accent. 😁 My father lived right across the street from the killer in college. Super scary!!

[@jacksonstarky8288]

Thank you, Emma and Simon, for covering this case. It definitely seems to have fallen under the radar, and the victims are worth remembering. Taking this opportunity to once again campaign for one of Simon's writers to cover Clifford Olson, the "Beast of British Columbia"... he has been covered on other channels, but Simon and his writers still do the best "deep dive" coverage, and this is one that deserves such treatment. I admit to being biased as I have lived in the West Coast province my entire life, and I was growing up during Olson's activity at the right age to have been one of his victims... but fortunately I wasn't living in the right part of the province.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks For this emma! You're always appreciated

[@kalimaxine]

My daughter goes to school in Ypsilanti. She is a junior at Eastern Michigan University. I'm always worried about her. So glad this isn't happening right now. I probably wouldn't let her go back.

[@SeeSomething_SaySomething]

I went there in late 90s and graduated in in early 2000s. 😊

[@Danheron2]

Yeah, if this was happening now with social media, it would probably cause total panic

[@jongrotrian5067]

Go Eagles! 🏈

[@lisapop5219]

I remember this story well. I was attending a summer program at EMU for high schoolers in the 80s. Our dorm assistant took us out on a campus tour the first night and told us all about it.

[@vanessapulley1282]

I loved this episode! I liked the focus it placed on the victims and they way it was told made me feel like I was a part of the investigation. Well done!!!

[@cathyruoff347]

Well done Emma and Simon!

[@Branwhin]

"Gee there are only about 42 active serial killers in the US right now!" Ummm... EEP? I mean, I'm in Canada, but still EEP! Entirely too many, how about we NOT commit murder? Thank you Emma, Simon and crew! Why yes, I do (for reasons perhaps better left unexamined?) like hearing about serial killers.

[@m.r.6264]

Honestly that seems low since we have 330 million people that live in the US

[@Branwhin]

@@m.r.6264 few relative to 300 million, for sure. But still entirely too many, eh? Hope you're having a good day.

[@dinobaconpants]

The thing with this is, a serial killer is defined as someone who kills 3 people in a period of over a month so with a population of 340 million in the U.S that is an extremely low number, out of those 42 the chance of them having more than 3 is even lower. It's a complete guess but I'd say maybe 3-5 are serial killers that will have say 10+ victims. Having 42 serial killers active in the U.S means there's not even 1 per state which is probably a better way to put it.

[@TinyStar-oz3bo]

I know, let's just ban murder! I mean, we could go back to telling ladies to carry a pistol in their purse, not to walk alone at night and to keep their doors and windows locked, but it would be easier to just make murder illegal, I think

[@bertvosburg558]

The current statistic is 289 serial killers in USA. So they say. It's all a guess right! You don't know how many until you catch them so I'd say you could probably multiply that by 100!

[@lucyjexy]

This one is literally close to home! Born in Garden City, Michigan, still somewhere nearby. The best thing about Ypsi is the Bill's Drive-In chili dogs and fresh root beer! Yummy!

[@hellonerdity]

I never thought I would see A2 and Ypsilanti on your channel, so thank you! I've only been here for five years, but the fact that I know exactly where some of these victims lived, but had no idea they were murdered is throwing me for a loop. Great show!

[@calicosta]

😊 YOU GO SIMON 🎉❤ Great Pronunciation of American Mid-Western Cities!

[@zoewood555]

I really like how this video was done. Knowing the lives of the women is interesting and seeing the reaction of different friends/families. Great script Emma 👏 ❤

[@AbiFranklin]

Logged onto YT and was like "What! Simon talking about my hometown! I can't wait to hear how he pronounces it!"

[@andreagriffiths3512]

Did it live up to your expectations?

[@mariahspain7799]

Hearing anyone try and say places in Michigan cracks me up. We have a lot of great stories and history I believe you would love. Love form the mitten.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Fact boi on monday?! Yes please 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ang3lplay3r86]

My boss thanks you for keeping me productive at work

[@lilavrillover]

Never gotten to one of these this early before

[@PeterCombs]

Always fun stories...and so wonderfully illustrative of the diversity of American culture...

[@nsharp1229]

Watching Simon try to pronounce Michigan city names makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside🤣Even people from Michigan get Michigan city names wrong😭 I’d love to watch him try to pronounce Sault Ste. Marie, Dowagiac, or Gratiot

[@Johns_Noodly_Grandma_Arms]

I can already hear him saying Grat-tee-oat. There's no way anyone would know it's pronounced gra-she-it unless you've heard someone say it before.

[@christinagowan8116]

Or Mackinac lol 🤣

[@johnsekhukhune1730]

As usual Emma you've done a great job with the Script today thank you for enlightening us and to you Simon thank you for the great read

[@Qb3nsis]

Simon hit us with that Count beard and I like it.

[@legalblondie3]

I went to EMU and lived on Normal street my last 2 years of school. Glad to see this local history getting covered!

[@carlacook5181]

Good show as usual, thank you.

[@gonzacou]

I’m a Michigander and I’m impressed by Simon’s pronunciation of Michigan cities.

[@riahw3750]

Some body HAS to write simon a script about dalia dippolito but please keep it a secret so its as authentic as possible i would love to see the reaction to it

[@Jnp366]

I’ve never heard of this but the fact that you think it should be a surprise really makes me interested

[@riahw3750]

@Jnp366 it's a crazy case, i dont want to spoil it but if you're interested. You should totally check it out

[@slugworthy1]

Pretty good documentary on this one. It features a q&a with the guy who was sheriff at the time. He’s a charismatic raconteur.

[@dusseaultmichael5977]

As always a violent story I wouldn't have known without my buddy in the Republic across the pond Keep up the channel that teaches all of us not to forget what kind of people may be out there

[@Islasmom-rb4lw]

Wow! I grew up not far from Ypsilanti and graduated from one of the Universities in the area. I've never heard of this story!

[@nbdjz1058]

as someone whose chosen family lives in ann arbor and ypsi, i'm so shocked i never heard about this

[@SimplySteph]

I have to admit I've never been creeped out or shooken in any way when watching Simon read these stories. However, at minute marker 39:30 he looks into the camera and says, " unbeknownst to them the man who had become known as the t Ypsilanti Ripper, was just warming up." The look that he shot, not only at the camera, but in his eyes, was for me ... Earth shattering! 😲 It literally sent shivers down spine and made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up! That's something that never happens while watching or to true crime ... EVER!!! I mean never not once ever! And I watch a lot of true crime! Not sure if he did it on purpose, for shock value perhaps OR if he even knew he was doing it at all, but holy crap! All I can say is, " Simon, please don't do that anymore!?"🙏 First time for me ... first time for everything I guess! 😳

[@Vilexxica]

HELL YES EMMA, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS ONE!!! I'm so excited. Edit: Simon, it's "ipp-sih-LAN-tee", not "YIP-sih-lan-tee" lmao

[@kokitsunetora]

I was looking at the comments to see if anyone mentioned that. #2 comment I saw😂

[@K_B_H_]

@@kokitsunetora ditto LOL

[@Vilexxica]

​​@@kokitsunetora I was the one who suggested this episode to Emma and I should've thought to offer local pronunciation assistance before she sent poor Fact Boy out on his own 😂 I've never heard so many creative versions of "Muskegon" that are all wrong in their own unique inflections

[@devronish9270]

​@@kokitsunetorais 😊😊😊😊😊

[@molsonmuscle613]

i didnt know it was ipp but i do know its not coupay

[@Paradox_Incognito]

Ann Arbor born and raised here, I'm giggling over the pronunciation in this video - room for improvement, but the effort is there and I appreciate that! I remember first hearing about one of these cases in maybe 7th grade. Thank you for covering these cases!

[@BunsterByne]

Take your bets on if Simon will pronounce 'lengthy' as 'lengthly' this episode

[@Numb3r3dDays]

omg it drives me up the wall, lol

[@calebbean1384]

We all have words that trip us up lol

[@sinner1434]

Thanks for the video Simon!❤

[@jasynwheeler4414]

Hearing Simon say Salinas wrong a number of times cracks me up it’s pronounce suh-li-nas 😂😂

[@HeatherMarieDriscoll]

@CasualCriminalist you never disappoint with such phenomenal writers, editors, and the man of the hour himself, Mr Simon Whistler. Another gripping tale spun from the threads that attach themselves to these historic, true crime case files and delivered with such class , and creative style that is THE CASUAL CRIMINALIST. Simon, you're humor always comes through when you read these. I have a few that I will watch when I need to laugh and it is a random Simon rant that always does it. I love how Simon is so "human" and you see and hear how the case he's reading is upsetting of course but man I DO LOVE how Simon is so quick to be like " And then strap em to the chair or put a needle in his arm or get a firing squad because this guy's... getting .. the DEALTH PENALTY!!!" RIght on, Simon 💯percent with you always on that and I'm right there with that excitement and also " awww nooo" usually when it's overturned unfortunately. Clearly , The Cas Crim is my comfort, my squad goals , the butterflies that I have if I can't watch it right away.. but just knowing you're there . Respect. Always. 😎✌️☮️

[@humane410]

Interesting topic , could you make an épisode on Marcel petiot because its a fascinating and morbide story

[@brandyjean7015]

Good suggestion.

[@humane410]

@@brandyjean7015 thanks you

[@XFBAX]

love your mispronunciations simon, all good, you weren't raised here with indigenous american words, still appreciatee your work, and thank you emma for showcasing the ol' murder mitten.

[@Reapunzil]

Omg Simon no, 3 random dudes is much worse than one

[@barbaralamson7450]

Honestly, I don't recall this at all. You told it very well. Thank you.

[@gezykah]

That psychic seem like a less financially successful version of Sylvia Browne. I would love to see a Casual Criminalist/Brain Blaze cross over episode about her. Every single time they eventually resolved a case she was involved with she was wrong. Like when she told Amanda Berry's mother she was dead. Her mother died before realizing her daughter was actually alive. It amazes me how not once did she randomly guess the correct outcome.

[@truecrimelover82]

I've hitchhiked more times than I can count, but that hasn't been in the states. I've hitchhiked in Iceland, Denmark and Sweden

[@sauce4137]

It might be safer but its still not a good idea

[@truecrimelover82]

@@sauce4137 I wouldn't hitchhike in Sweden anymore, and Denmark is getting a little iffy, but you can easily still hitchhike in Iceland

[@vincenzomartino5648]

Oh God Simon please don't traumatize me. I live like 20 miles away from where this happened 😅

[@DanzoTheManzo13]

I'd say looks like it's time to move but this happened decades ago so... 😬🤷🏼

[@darkamora5123]

While accurately stated as decades, that seems such an understatement for over half a century ago. I mean it started happening closer to the end of World War II than we in 2024 are to 9/11.

[@majean]

I'm from Ypsilanti, and I have a book coming out next month that includes a chapter on this case. Whether literal or metaphorical, it still haunts this area.

[@paulwolter8304]

Hey neighbor

[@panamajr3239]

Am I the only person that got pissed with Karen??? Especially knowing the girls at the hair shop tried to warn her!!

[@legoqueen2445]

Not pissed at her but yea, she made bad decisions.

[@SkunkApe407]

Not to sound like a jerk, but that's girls for you. Actually pay attention to the number of these stories where a victim says "I'll be fine", just to walk right into their own demise.

[@ouijaloveletters]

I was born in Midland. Thanks is much for covering a Michigan case.

[@procopiusaugustus6231]

During the golden age there was a lot of mobility in the population as well as a leftover culture of trust. DNA wasn’t a thing nor were easily accessible databases available to law enforcement. Easier to find victims and harder to get caught. Today you can track everyone’s movements by their cell phones.

[@terryjohnson5579]

I'm actually from Michigan. My sister lives in the Ypsilanti area and my dad works in Ann Arbor. These stories normally seem so much further away but to have these in cities I've lived and worked it's a bit haunting.

[@jc6800]

Yazzzzzzzzz right after work excellent timing 🎉

[@thecharmingplatypus3208]

Oh god an episode with locations I actually know. Yay? Anyway great as always

[@KellySchoch-lp8by]

But what about the two other guys in the killing of Joan Schnell?

[@andyfurda7808]

I was very young during this, but i rember very well the horrors that John had caused. This was a nightmare for the whole Ypsilanti (pronounced: ips- a- lan-ti) / Ann Arbor community's. I remember my parents talking about the murders and the people they knew who had been associated with John and the police finding bodies close to our home in Ypsilanti. Thank you for making this your topic for this episode, this was a very important reminder of what that monster did to those women and to our community. Peace!

[@saychaysarchive7065]

I also fell for the "Now normally this is where we tell you the police didn't take her disappearance seriously" misdirection. Silly me for having faith in law enforcement for once

[@channeljunirave]

I thought this was a reupload of a previous episode lol. Glad I double checked. Thanks, y’all!

[@shelby_button]

I’m curious about the victim who got in the car with three men. If one was John then who were the other two and were they involved???

[@superhappyfunguy1]

I'd love to see either Emma or David write a script on Herb Baumeister. He was a serial killer in my hometown of Westfield, Indiana. Escaped justice by suicide. But was totally guilty and there's a big mystery of whether or not he was also the I-70 killer. You dudes do better research than other true crime shows, and Baumeister doesn't have too much good content on his story

[@KyleBoise]

I know I'm not supposed to be, but I'm mad at Karen and the shop lady. How can you be so irresponsible after making it so clear that you understand the danger? The second that he wouldn't look at that woman, she should have extremely protested and approached him or something. That whole situation is wildly frustrating.

[@OhSheSam]

As someone who lives and works in the Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor area, this is so scary! Hearing you mention Depot town or Washtenaw rd., I can picture these places and how everything took place in these cases so much more vividly than other cases I’ve heard. I never knew these horrors took place here. Edit: I also went to EMU so this hits closer and closer the more I listen.

[@esomethingoranother3718]

Imagine your girlfriend/fiancee or wife hate you sooo Much that she just randomly reports you as being a serial killer to get rid of you😂😂😂

[@nahduhleexoxo]

Hearing Center Line just struck with me because that's where I grew up and went to high school! So crazy I never even heard of this case before!!!

[@nimocolombia]

Not criminalisting casually today, Whistler?? ❤

[@faithfulnate8227]

Living in ypsi, not knowing about this, hearing sandra talk about not being able to go down geddes without shedding a tear. That hits close to home. I drive there often but never knew the suffering that took place in my community before I was around. Many of the victims are blood relatives of past classmates or teachers/professors of mine. I appreciate your video because it brings awareness to this tragedy. But please try to use a little more reverence and less humor when discussing the victims. Rest in peace Mary, Dawn, Maralynn, Joan, Jane, Karen, Alice, Roxie Ann we failed you.

[@hilarymol6607]

Wow. Caught this 2 minutes after it posted AND it's from my neck of the woods. Thanks, Emma & Simon! Ypsilanti is a cool area of Michigan... too bad this jerk put a dark mark on it. (Edit for spelling.)

[@colincook-o9p]

What a great episode, instant classic, I was riveted