The Yu-Gi-Oh! Community is Furious

[@Zetact_]

Imagine telling the Reptile players a couple years ago, "There will be a tier 0 archetype called Snake-Eye" just to mess with them.

[@Takahiko506]

That would cause another Snake Rain buyout

[@sweetkuridreamer]

I’d be filled with false hope for a good reptile deck.

[@chamber8234]

“And theyre all Pyros”

[@mokummer7656]

i always hel'd on my infinite collection of ,,snake rain,, just for these moments

[@KushiKush]

HAHA I know right! More like Bank-Eyes

[@TeaRektum]

imagine spending 1000$ to play a game and the winner of the biggest tournament only gets 200$ worth of prizes

[@nsreturn1365]

this lmao, meanwhile dota players get that on small side tourneys,

[@ProtossTempest]

My friend did Digi and got 2nd place. It was an online official tourney. Got over 1000$ of prizing and only paid give or take 30$ for signup

[@KyonV13]

Yugioh has ALWAYS been about the ego. Whether it's through having blinged out decks/binders, cheating, or playing max power meta decks for casual games in a known casual local store, there's constantly an overbearing amount of people who feel the need to lord over others in some capacity. More than other tcgs, I feel, and it might just be my perspective, but then again I've tried many tcgs in several cities because I've had to move a lot.

[@Forever-ec8tm]

I feel like what this whole thread is missing is that cards can be resold. He’s not down 1000 dollars, he sells and trades the cards when done with the deck

[@ChrisDeve]

@@KyonV13Maybe not always, but definitely this is the case currently. I think this is to be expected with the state the game and drop rates are in the west. It's basically just catering to whales at this point. And what do whales do once they're the only ones left? Try to dunk on each other. Now buy the new super ultra mega limited golden staple card worth a small automobile so you can show Timmy who's boss!

[@Kumo-s6f]

Thanks Konami for recreating class warfare in your children's card game.

[@michaelkeha]

I mean that kinda exists in every hobby but Yugioh makes it far more severe since your skills can never make up the difference

[@kiierbk2017]

@@michaelkehafacts

[@mattbaltimore7195]

Gahgeh loves that class divide system....... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SHAWNJX]

Really flys in the face of the spirit of the show where the message was generally play with the cards that are special to you especially the original and 5ds and gx to an extent

[@michaelkeha]

@@SHAWNJX yeah it's why I like vanguard you can play far more to what you like and do well than just play the meta and often they are happy to update cards to make them still good just look how many versions of dragonic overlord there are without going into the evolutions of him that still do the core thing he is known for doing

[@shaedeymamlas5496]

When a 40K army starts looking cheap, you know the pricing is screwed

[@Shaman5EUSK]

Thing about Warhammer armies; you'll keep the models/units for years without needing to change them. The only constant spending is for Codexes on a yearly basis. Sad thing about yugioh is to stay relevant at a competitive level, you're spending £200 or so atleast every month because of new staples and upkeep on sleeves. Komoney at it again

[@shaedeymamlas5496]

@@Shaman5EUSK at this point keeping up with YGO is more expensive than even most MtG formats (legacy excluded, you need a mortgage to get half a legacy deck, then again a vast majority of legacy&vintage non-sanctioned events support you having your entire deck proxied)

[@AngelofDeath333]

WarHammer is so much better, at least my models don’t get banned.

[@axelt6312]

@@Shaman5EUSK 200$ on sleeves upkeep ???

[@MorePower8679]

What makes it worse is GW is actively trying to squeeze as much money out of your wallet as possible. So YGO is more expensive than actively malevolent developers

[@whales312]

“The best part of this format is you don’t have to interact with poor people” got me fucking crying

[@ChadKing69]

You just have to interact with sweats

[@RTU130]

Ye

[@undeadinside3571]

The best part of this format is i quit the game a few formats ago

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

for just 3 of each snake eye card, 3 diabellstar, 3 bonfire, 1 promethean princess, 1 little knight, you'd spend $1079. For that same price, I could build a 2000 point 40k army and get it professionally painted and still have money left over. And that army would be something that I could use forever, without ever worrying about ban lists or reprints.

[@noobpaints6114]

glad to see more 40k comments . i just started collecting myself. it's been great fun so far

[@DavidLee-frost]

Bad analogy though It's usable until the next edition/codex/FW drops the next meta stuff. Then your army becomes a meme army instead of meta WAAC army If you said you don't need WAAC army to play, same with Yu-Gi-Oh. Just play any deck you like that don't cost that much

[@xXCigarXx]

An army sure,having them professionally painted....not a chance...do some research on how much pro painted units cost.

[@monkfishy6348]

Bad analogy though It's usable always and may even get better in the next edition/codex/FW. @@DavidLee-frost

[@hamburgercheeseburger7959]

just paint them yourself

[@nathannia]

Farfa had the hard decision of buying a house or buying a Tier 0ish deck

[@roxashenry8315]

A month's rent*

[@dimitrilepain3821]

"Home for the baby or cardboard for papi, wat do i do?"

[@SaragossiDeer]

​@@dimitrilepain3821 obviously card board! New baby poping!

[@AzzyReal]

Im sorry, the wide Jesse walk at the beginning of the video made me fucking lose it lmfaooooo

[@UncleJrueForTue]

We need an 10 hour loop of "Wide Jesse walking into a venue, but he gets increasingly wider".

[@OlaAremu]

​@@UncleJrueForTuewe need someone on this asap!

[@Suichkaa]

that shit got me too lmao

[@RJV-s3l]

@ErickOlmos-jv4flog video is Wide Putin and the song name is “Song to Denise”

[@kurofelix]

W I D E B O I

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

"The best part of this format is that you dont have to interact with poor people" till they figure out the SHS version 😂

[@danielmokobia106]

lol

[@truegrit9202]

Then they get drolled and realize snake eyes is still better 😂😂😂

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@@truegrit9202 SHS version is actually better against droll

[@fernandolopes3545]

Forgive me, but what SHS stands for? I'm a returning player, so I don't know the new decks

[@Xx3SPAZxX]

@@fernandolopes3545 Superheavy Samurai

[@Gebirges]

You know what triggers me the most about Snake-Eye, Farfa? It's Snakes but you can't play them with Snake Rain! triggers the shit out of me

[@babrad]

Activate snake rain, discard one card, send Ash, Oak, Pop, Flam. CL1 Flam, CL2 Pop. Place Flam, revive Ash Oak, Ash gives you any lvl1 FIRE you would summon from OSS, Oak revives Poplar to get Temple. You can even troll the Droll bird by summoning both Ash/Poplar and searching at the same time. At this point who gives an f* about Bonfire and OSS this would be BROOOOOOOOOOOOOKEN It's like Ogdoadic learning to crawl for Snake-eyes to teleport

[@lucatempesta6027]

​@@babrad flamberge doesn't trigger if sent from deck

[@babrad]

@@lucatempesta6027 yes yes my mistake, too lost in the sauce!!!

[@burningspeed]

One of the biggest problems when it comes to formats like these is that when the deck pool for the meta is so small and so pricey, it basically gatekeeps many players out of the meta simply because not everyone can afford these decks, this becomes a massive problem to the overall growth of the game as less players are going to be inclined to continue playing it and potential newcomers will just be gatekept out of the game simply because they won't find it fun to play under these format conditions. Konami needs to stop making cards overly expensive if they want any new players to join the game and to keep the old ones coming back for more.

[@zmx132457]

My brother in Christ, this is not a Konami problem this is the community and the second hand market problem, they gatekeep and artificially increase the price of cards, Konami just prints cards and sells booster packs

[@phoenix5095]

​@@zmx132457no it's a Konami problem too they purposely increase the rarity on the sought after cards if they do well in the ocg, example look at all the recent deckbuilder sets the only competitive decks out the gate are purposely taking most of the ultra rare slots, that being said it's not only Konamis fault also the community's for allowing cards reach 120 or more and still buy them

[@vgmaster02]

@@zmx132457 Are you THAT stupid? So it's the community's fault for PRINTING CARDS IN HIGH RARITY, SHORT PRINTING SAID HIGH RARITY CARDS, and NOT PROVIDING SAID SHORT PRINTED HIGH RARITY CARDS IN LOWER RARITIES AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE THEM AFFORDABLE AND IN MORE QUANTITY IN THE MARKET??? No, that is ENTIRELY Konami TCG's fault! Because the OCG clearly shows that MULTIPLE RARITIES WORK. Look at the price of S:P, WANTED, Poplar, Diabellstar, AND Bonfire in the OCG compared to here in the TCG. You can get the ENTIRE Diabellstar engine for a FRACTION of the price of what it costs in the TCG, and that is excluding the rest of the Snake-Eye stuff. KONAMI is the problem, and KONAMI needs to fix it. And the fact YOU are defending them means you are the reason this shit isn't going to change, because you are defending BLATANT CORPORATE GREED instead of actually FIGHTING it. Piss the fuck off.

[@alfiobonanno5100]

​@@zmx132457 Look up the difference in rarity between ocg and tcg.

[@arcadiusrex215]

Who controls the rarity of cards? Prices are supply+Demand. Konami are the ones who control supply, therefore they control the price.

[@jrandula]

In my country, that deck is worth someones 2 months of paycheck(Well 1.5 but you need to eat and pay for basic bills you know)... FUN

[@richardstamm2144]

Konami fears the proxychad

[@ianvargas7666]

@jrandula let me guess, LATAM? Cuz im in hell too

[@N12015]

​@@ianvargas7666It has to be one of the richer countries of LATAM, where it is like 600 USD per month. In poorer ones it is up to 5 months of wage (Again, poverty).

[@Kraysiz123]

2? That's at least 5 months of my monthly salary, excluding any form of deductions like taxes.

[@Takato]

$1k is almost 5 monthly minimum wages in Brazil. It's literally an amount of money that less than 0.5% of the entire country population can spend on fucking cardboard.

[@Picar70]

Gage sadly always had a very privileged take on hobbies, not realising that gatekeeping a game between 1000+ dollar-decks promotes stagnation in the meta.

[@michaelkeha]

He's also made terrible arguments my favorite is his staples argument cause at the end of the day if you burn your budget on the staples you have a pile of staples and no deck to use them in

[@TemporalDelusion]

@@michaelkeha Not to mention it feels like there is a 100€ staple every other month and the 15-30€ staples that are even more frequent. Be it random extra deck stuff or main deck cards like thrust etc. With how reprints ruin card value, you are literally burning money as once you decide to sell stuff or "exit the hobby" you are left with very little. Imagine buying a secret rare apollousa or something right now for 20€ when the next rarity collection will probably drop it to 2€. Same for stuff like thrust, it will be a couple cents eventually. The current structure of reprints and chase staples is basically the worst of both world.

[@michaelkeha]

@@TemporalDelusion yeah where as vanguard outside of like a non mandatory staple for premium most decks got for pretty cheap like a dollar or less per card on average

[@__-be1gk]

Gage is kind of an idiot

[@KryselITG]

​@@michaelkehaHarmonics Messiah reprint coming out in Triple Drive Booster I think? I still need a copy for my premium decks but after I get one, i'm just going to swap it between decks. But Lyrical can eat my ass, got dam Yuika.

[@Chihiro-Kikuchi]

“ITS A HEALTHY DIVERSE FORMAT!!”

[@Chilo-i1d]

Was the case prior to this shit

[@GuessWhatHappened1]

Poplar

[@hzhcyber1767]

This format really makes you realize that AGOV format was so nice. Rescue ace, Tear, and Unchained were all winning YCSs, and a ton of rogue decks were playable, too.

[@autobotstarscream765]

>Tear And that's why people don't think it's nice.

[@fatcat2015]

@@autobotstarscream765WAAAAAAHH WAAAAAAHHHHHH WAAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAAAHH

[@autobotstarscream765]

@fatcat2015 Wah because Tear, lol, I see what you did there. 😂

[@clearminddarkthoughts5477]

It’s not worth the price. Tears were literally tier 0 and it didn’t cost nowhere near as much. At most 500. 300 for the field spell and extra deck depends

[@Ajr5691]

@@autobotstarscream765 The zombified corpse of tear in AGOV was way better to play against than Snake Eye shit

[@The-Host]

Our local card club all came to an agreement we're all ok with printed cards. Just make em look legit while in the deck with sleeves. The pricing is stupid and we understand we can't get new players/decks in and out of we don't allow people to print cards. It's made tournaments a lot more fun and diverse.

[@ummmmmactually]

I advocated (at the very least) for well-made extra deck proxies such as s:p at my lgs but the yugioh scene sadly consists of konami boot lickers and whales who are not interested in creating a fair and fun environment. Thats why I quit yugioh and started magic. I hope this game dies out and the whales are left stranded

[@chaingang40]

​@@ummmmmactuallylol, magic is insanely expensive. Magic players keep telling me that yugioh is cheap as well

[@ummmmmactually]

@@chaingang40 depends on the format. Commander and Pauper can be very cheap

[@hyoroemongaming569]

​@@ummmmmactually"fun and fair enviroment" Watch as everyone print tier0🤡

[@neros_soren]

@@ummmmmactually Took the MTG community a long while to finally accept the idea of proxies. WotC selling 250$ per pack full of proxies actually changed it. And......my guy....MTG is more expensive than YGO. xD Literally every single format is gatekept by your mana base - ranging from 100 to 400 bucks depending on the cheaper formats. Also...Commander is a casual format, the topic at hand is about the cost of YGO in the standard competitive environment. YGU ain't expensive if you play kitchen table either. And Pauper...sure...if you are lucky enough to have a local play base for it, which rarely ever happens, because the majority of players are on MTGO.

[@thatlonewolfguy2878]

You know its apocalyptically bad when even content creators are priced out of a format. Fix the fucking game Konami and stop giving us gacha boxes. Nuke Snake-Eyes on an emergency banlist. Nobody should be forced to spend 4 digits on pieces of cardboard to play a card game. This is why me and lots of other players have quit "meta" yugioh and why alt formats are at an all-time high in popularity and player numbers.

[@colossaldonut5190]

To be fair, the main reason Farfa is priced out of the format is due to the fact he's trying to raise his kids.

[@nerdbyrd7816]

@@colossaldonut5190 that should be more cause for concern about the price gouging. Having to choose between kids or cardboard is ridiculous, and it isn’t like he’s the only Yugioh player with kids

[@GuessWhatHappened1]

To be fair 50% of them dont even play like that irl

[@GuessWhatHappened1]

The problem isnt konami its the vendors and buyers. A good way to really understand this or the ots sets, so techically these set are the most scare yet why do ots prices generally always cap 130 at most and usually drop lower Because vendors cant sell them until about a year after release. So only players are usually buying and selling. Vendors were pre selling princess and poplar 50-60 before we even had a pre release

[@hamburgercheeseburger7959]

@@GuessWhatHappened1konami is definitely the problem as they're the ones who create new overpowered cards, sell boxes to retailers at unreasonable prices, and control the density of the new overpowered cards.

[@Nephalem2002]

“As a Canadian, Jessie is use to being ignored.” *Thats hurtful man ;(*

[@ARandomNerdyGuy]

My friend ran into Jessie. Literally ran into him at a regional. He just went, ‘oh sorry dude.’ Jessie just said ‘oh, no problem dude,’ and he walked away. Like a minute later he realized who he just causally interacted with.

[@mattbaltimore7195]

Because he ain't from US of A!!!!!!! The main character of this world!!!!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@ASoldierify]

@@mattbaltimore7195 main villain*

[@undeadinside3571]

​@@ASoldierifytell that to all those countries that dont have freedom

[@danielmokobia106]

At least 1k man. yu-gi-oh players are rich enough to do this every time a meta changes that crazy.

[@triple_gem_shining]

I could barely read your comment with how much of a grammar mistake ridden run-on sentence it is 😂

[@Chackothewacko]

​@@triple_gem_shiningseemed like an easy read to me and I correct people on tiktok everyday

[@eddypasta8234]

you must be borderline illiterate if you couldn't parse the meaning of that comment.@@triple_gem_shining no need to be a dickwad to random people :)

[@michaelkeha]

​@@triple_gem_shining Bruh, if you can't read that sentence even with the lack of grammar that's a you problem.

[@danielmokobia106]

Sorry about the grammar my English, is not very good @@triple_gem_shining

[@hannsandres]

ECUADOR MENTIONED LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

[@MoodyBlag]

So is the trend in yugioh now to start of a Year with a Tier 0 format, wait till after Nats or just before Nats to Nerf it, then have a really Diverse format for 6 months till they release the New Tier 0 Deck 😅

[@Kuja66613666]

it's been the trend since 2011. fuck archetypes

[@MoodyBlag]

@@Kuja66613666 I haven't been playing that long I went from Playground GOAT to 2021 Branded 😅 but I must say I prefer Archetypes and the way decks work these days just wish they'd chill with the power creep

[@nureis8024]

I find the editing style at the start of this video and the tierlist really funny personally, but i also appreciate going to the more grounded style for the actual discussion part, good video fafa

[@trevormannsfield]

One day the TCG community will get outraged by the cost of cards and NOT blow money on them anyway. But that day is not today If you keep feeding them your money they'll keep ripping you off

[@michaelkeha]

I mean usually it just means the other TCGs just get a Flux of new players every time

[@baldawen]

@@michaelkeha magic is even more expensive though

[@michaelkeha]

@@baldawen depends on the format for something like commander you can build supremly cheap and do well enough due to casual nature of the format

[@dudono1744]

​@@baldawenProxies go brr.

[@neros_soren]

@@michaelkeha A) Commander ain't cheap if you want to play at moderate power level tables. B) Commander is a casual format. YGO casually ain't expensive either, so people mentioning Commander over and over is just wrong. I mean, I can mash together 3 structure decks and can have fun casually with YGO, and that deck could even get some wins in LGS play.

[@aka_Ingmar]

It's crazy to think that in the span of a year we've had what was essentially three tier zero decks now and yet the last tier zero before tear was in 2017. It's almost like this game is hitting a boiling point

[@swagmotherfucka]

I wouldnt be surprised if a mass of big names quit within the next year and some sort of resistance forms against yugiohs powercreep and pricing

[@rafflez8961]

we've had more powercreep in the previous 4-6 years than in the first 15 of the game. As it turns out, printing omni negates on literally everything isn't sustainable. who knew.

[@Ragnarok540]

Something has gone really wrong if someone who tied his finances to the health of this card game can't afford the deck to play in a given format.

[@MattSinz]

The way you prepare for a format with 15 powerful decks is by using less powerful, more generic cards that are useful in more situations. You aren't owed a side deck with the silver bullet for every match-up, and you aren't owed a win.

[@noobpaints6114]

I get it being frustrating to learn so many matchups but I agree with everything you said.

[@rafflez8961]

Exactly this. Trying to convince people on any yugioh forum that your side deck was never meant to give you answers to everything is crazy. It helps going into certain matchups. Sometimes your deck gets hard countered. That's tcgs.

[@herrar6595]

Coming from pokemon where a deck having 30% is viewed as a destroyed meta and you rarely tech at all, the aproach is funny to me. Do not tech against everything and water down your deck, just learn the matchups... that said, we don´t have a sideboard

[@estevansolis]

You're right and to add on to this point, i feel like the side just being the place where you put that cards that say "i win against X deck" is absolutely garbage game design tbh.

[@keltzar1]

Yeah I honestly stopped watching when he started acting like there being a large variety of decks doesn't make for a fun format because "how am I supposed to tech against that?" Like, you're upset that there's a format that isn't solved? Maybe you do things like tech against the specific decks that are especially hard for yours to deal with.

[@henrymqk2284]

Remember when we thought cash-tira was expensive?

[@trueblueryu5713]

Well if Snake Eyes is the strongest deck at this time, I can’t imagine how bad it’ll be when Cobra Commander drops

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Just get Serpentor, he's secret tech that _destroys_ the Cobra Commander engine.

[@GrandHarrier]

I love being priced out of playing this game.

[@MaliEndz]

Theres a bunch of other viable decks not even close to the price of fire ones

[@GrandHarrier]

@@MaliEndz Results say otherwise.

[@rikacomedyletsplays2581]

​@@MaliEndz*points to tier 0 charts* please point where i must be blind

[@MaliEndz]

@@rikacomedyletsplays2581 yeah one event compared to the multiple regionals that happened prior or around the same time as YCS costa rica lol. Branded, floo, kash, voiceless all are relevant

[@MaliEndz]

@@GrandHarrier crazy how people still performed in UDS, ycs costa rica outside of top 16 which is the results you are referring to and the multiple regional events that happened

[@L1nk2002]

What i personally like about this format is that snake eyes as a deck brought back/in to the game some mechanics that were basically forgotten. Things like targeting protection, non quick banish from the gy, placing cards as continuous spells, recurring cards from the gy to the hand. I think this is really cool. On the other hand I hate everything else about this format.

[@tomasgoes]

*"The best part of this format is that you don't have to interact with poor people".* Bruh... 😂😂😂

[@cristifernandes9375]

Honestly, at this point how are we not prepared to sell our house for competivive viability?

[@bobb5492]

Move to america gain 300 lbs Sell kidney donate sperm daily to any bank with low standards get on disability $$$ SNAKE EYES

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

Yu-Gi-Oh is seriously speedrunning its own demise with trends like these.

[@michaelkeha]

I know it was a joke but that is something I would 100% believe Gauge would say that because of how badly his brain rotted

[@ProtossTempest]

Dude's coasting on sponsors. Take them away and he's gotta worry about travel expenses again.

[@michaelkeha]

@@ProtossTempest it's impressive how much someone loses perspective when they don't have to pay for everything

[@Momo_pstat4]

What im interested in is everyone’s opinions on the frequency in which tier 0 is occuring. About a year ago, we had tear, and since then, there have been a few consecutive formats where at least 1 deck is fairly centralizing (with a few others around it, but there is still kinda a clear best deck). Even if yall like tier 0 formats where decks are fun to play, do yall like the frequency we are getting these formats?

[@ally3417]

I am sorry imo tier 0 is the worst thing that can happen to a card game, there is no way it can be good, i am not saying fecken vehicroids should be allowed to compete but the meta should not be "You must play this 1 specific deck" to win.

[@TripNBallsGaming]

Tier 0 is cancer.

[@P48L31N5]

As an Ecuadorian, It feels nice to have a Gigachad with our flag in one of your videos.

[@CobaltSanderson]

The most unenjoyable part of this format has been that every deck not on Snake Eye is on Droll and Shifter, which hurt other decks so much more than it hurts Snake Eye. So either you play Snake Eye, or you play something that doesn’t specifically lose to Droll or Shifter which begins to really limit your options.

[@swagmotherfucka]

Its essentially only snake-eye, since all decks that dont lose to shifter lose to the 2/3 handtraps people are opening alongside full combo. Floo and kash lose to droll and dependent on the hand only 1 handtrap, and almost always 2.

[@UncleJrueForTue]

TCGplayer price for the Snake-Eye Core(No talents, Little Knight, or Fire King Structure deck factored in)as of Feb, 22 2024(min rarity): TOTAL: 24 cards - $885.42 3 Bonfire [MZMI] 2 Diabellstar the Black Witch [AGOV] 3 WANTED: Seeker of Sinful Spoils [AGOV] 3 Original Sinful Spoils - Snake-Eye [AGOV] 3 Snake-Eye Ash [AGOV] 2 Snake-Eye Oak [AGOV] 2 Snake-Eyes Flamberge Dragon [AGOV] 3 Snake-Eyes Poplar [PHNI] 1 Divine Temple of the Snake-Eye [AGOV] 1 Promethean Princess, Bestower of Flames [PHNI] 1 Amphibious Swarmship Amblowhale [DANE]

[@EarlBeatz]

Healthy

[@pablepablo2321]

My locals is already drying up

[@DisasterLord]

It feels like tears all over again, it's ok though I learner no Yu-Gi-Oh is better than bad Yu-Gi-Oh at the end of the day

[@ProtossTempest]

I just play Digi to wait it out. A few guys in the group got MTG, Pokemon, or even MMOs like WoW Classic or FF14 to wait out these situations

[@XainArchives]

"Only playing one copy of Diabellstar." *MEANWHILE THE 600 DOLLARS WORTH OF BONFIRE.* Budget deck my fucking ass.

[@lun-gi-oh1556]

Snake Eye is more dominant in the TCG because there's no Maxx C to help carry worse decks (Lab, Voiceless and Branded mostly). Thats why other decks could regularly top in the OCG and its not Tier 0.

[@MillenniumEarl014]

No wonder people call TCG players babies

[@undeadinside3571]

Because we dont have maxx c? Or because we dont wanna spend a months rent of a deck we most likely cant use next format? They'll for sure ruin this deck later

[@Darkmagecurt]

​@undeadinside3571 that's yugioh goal in general. Your gonna pay for the new deck to compete. Ban it. Bring another new one..... profit.....repeat. they know there fan base is cultist level at this point no real need to plz us cuz we gonna make excuses to cope with the abuse.😂

[@undeadinside3571]

@@Darkmagecurt it didnt always used to be that way. Up until at least early xyz era, you could use the same deck, but maybe some new tech cards and win. As long as it was something that was meta within the last few years, it had a chance

[@Darkmagecurt]

@undeadinside3571 I know I tell people all the time the game changed with pendulums in the worst way. I handled every era of yugioh b4 pendulums with ease but after that's its been leave and come back and leave drill for alot of players.

[@thekittenfreakify]

How to prep for diverse format. Gage the top decks prep for them. And the rest of the side is for como strats like gy spam,wide boards, backrow decks etc

[@haroutkayabalian8591]

The funny thing is this deck won't be anywhere near the other decks had they weren't extremely nerfed. Like give Mathmechs their 3 circulars and they'd have a really decent shot against this deck cause they don't target and they don't even destroy which what this entire deck's gimmick is built upon. Give DLink their 3 chaos spaces back or chaos ruler and they'll cook this shitty deck Give tear a kitkallos back and they'll cook this deck 9 games out of 10 Give floo a barrier statue back and again they'll cook this deck every game The only reason this deck is even thriving is because they nerfed the shitt out of all the other old good decks. Give kash an arise-heart back, etc... the list goes on.

[@nsreturn1365]

this many dont get it, tear did rip this apart, and kash did just completely shit on it, even full power runick spright did out do it in its own game. Its just hard hits to all, even more fun is md, where pote decks got nuked, second best deck is Branded with 1 fusion bystials all at 1 exept lubelion, and blast forbidden, and i think some targets are gone too. tldr brabded gets raped. + d shifter is at 2, and floo is well nuked beyond your understanding. people figured otk decks do good since if they go first you loose anyways, if on som else, so might as well do the funny things. + if they dont draw an out they burn themselves to death with bw before they have a board to out them. .... Anyways, we dont even have voiceless voice or the general fire support yet ...... they just skipped product, also even more fun, while in the event many decks are hit( bw assault at 1 , some bosses banned , geonator traverser banned lmao) These mf just lost 2 sinful spoils origin , so even in the fun event you have tier 0.....

[@rafflez8961]

@@nsreturn1365 replacing one tier 0 with another like tear is a net neutral. Kash being a thing still forces people to play it because it's extremely broken vs other decks that aren't exactly kash or se. Spright runick is literally full power right now and not even really in the meta at all (fountain at 2, but no one played 3 anyway).

[@rafflez8961]

circular got hit because its a bit overtuned. Kit, barrier, and arise all got hit because they were insanely unfair and game warping, which is the problem with se right now. Chaos space is weird, but I don't think many are unhappy with d-link finally getting a format where it isn't playable after it's been here since 2017.

[@haroutkayabalian8591]

@@rafflez8961 Circular never won a ycs, I can't even remember the last time DLink won a YCS yet they get the stick. You know why? Because Komoney has to sell their new shiny deck and they want to nerf every single deck that doesn't cost alot and is still somewhat playable to the ground. I can guarantee you 1000% that if circular was an expensive secret rare card then we would've kept him till now. Same with SHS, it was the first deck that got hit from CYAC even tho Kash was much stronger but the reason was because SHS cost 10% of what Kash cost. My problem is, Konami only wants their meta decks to cost +600$ and whenever we have one that's meta and not that expensive, you can kiss goodbye to it. I'm expecting BRANDED to be the next on the list for the exact same reason. Meta contending cheap deck = BanList

[@ghassenweslati4139]

the best intro of the year, it just made my day

[@hindae085]

I remember scrolling the Duel Live replays on Master Duel and coming across a Snake Eye deck. I've never felt such disgust at watching a player summon 10+ monsters per turn. On the opponents turn too. The ban list better hit this deck hard it's wild

[@QualityUsername]

background music is a w

[@vkorde278]

can't go wrong with persona soundtrack

[@DerMotze]

i've played that game so much that this music in ingrained into my whole being lol Always refreshing to hear it in videos

[@JeebleyJim]

it was a diverse format until the fire attribute got stacked

[@supersmily5811]

I've built a version of a stock Snake-Eyes deck I saw on a KZbin video in Master Duel. Not with the actual cards, of course, just to see how expensive it'd be. I don't spend money on Master Duel, so despite spending 3000 gems on the selection pack I had nowhere near all the cards of the deck, but MD lets you add them to a deck you build anyway with the understanding that you can't use a deck containing cards you don't own. Owning about 7 out of the 55 cards (including extra deck) means ALL of the remaining cards are Ultra Rare, the highest base rarity in the game. Ha. Haha... HAHAHAHA OKAY SURE!!!

[@KyrosQuickfist]

When everyone plays the same thing, you create an overwhelming demand for specific cards. The people who are furious are unironically the ones creating the environment that sets the price. A game that has you saying "If you want to participate, you are gonna have to run the thing that everyone else is running" contradicts the point of a card game which you build your own deck. Am I crazy? Just the viewpoint of someone on the outside looking in, who plays other card games that got this video recommended to me for some reason.

[@hyoroemongaming569]

Yeah If SE is t0 why dont poor players make silver bullet deck?

[@JetZV]

So you're saying that with a single paycheck, I can either buy an entire tier 0 deck that I can barely play anyway due to work, meaning that it might not even be viable the next time I use it due to a banlist nerfing it into the ground... Or I could pay an entire month's rent, utilities, and groceries, with money to spare. Thanks, but I've already pulled and traded for most of a Yubel engine anyway so I'll just play that.

[@BatmannotBruceWayne1]

I think Blue-Eyes beats Snake-Eye. Blue-Eyes Spirit Dragon stops cards like wanted and Poplar from getting infinite advantage with their Graveyard effects, and it already stops Flameberges graveyard effect from reaching its full potential just by sitting on the board. Additionally its ability to tag out into power cards such as Moonlight rose dragon, Crimson Dragon and Azure-Eyes helps insulate against the many plays available to Snake-Eyes players.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

Problem is you're playing blue eyes.

[@MaliEndz]

Copium take

[@babrad]

@@Honest_Mids_Masher I don't understand what's the problem with playing Blue Eyes. - Does it lose to Shifter? - Does it lose to Droll? - Does it lose to Nibiru? - Does it have any engine requirements that are bricks? - Does it perform only 2+ card combos? - Does it have little to no room for non-engine? - Does it lose to even lower impact handtraps like Ash/Veiler? It doesn't matter. Your board is (the biggest Nibiru token the world has ever seen) full of badass Dragons, you can even FTK with the new fake Number 1. And most importantly; your opponent has to say they lost to Blue-Eyes.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@babrad It does lose to shifter cause eggs in grave and no blue eyes in grave turns off jet, droll no but ash on melody? Yes, Bricks? Absolutely, 2+ card combos? Yes, and it has space for non engine but only slightly more than the average pendulum deck can have which isn't saying much. It does matter because cooler dragon decks exist and are far more reliable than it. Also FTK? I can only imagine how many cards that loses to though if memory serves I don't think the fake number is an FTK enabler and only rips cards out of the extra deck. Losing to Blue eyes thing is true though I ain't ever gonna admit that especially to the homies

[@orga7777]

Wow. Don't overdose on that copium.

[@TheHairyHobbe69]

When 25 out 40 of the main deck cards are hand traps or top tier negation cards that have nothing to do with the archetype and cost more than a months wages. Then add in the extra deck, and there we go.

[@georgevillarroel3251]

Lets just unban tearlaments and the shufflers, water counters fire, lets play pokemon :)

[@behemoth9543]

My god. 82% of a tournament. I don´t play Yu-Gi-Oh to be fair but thats so insane that I would have expected bans to hit that deck at least 40% ago. MTG decks regularly catch bans at 20% of the meta.

[@Fencer_Nowa]

It's not banlist season. They're on a 3-4 month rotation

[@DC7_Nightmares]

I just play Master Duel, I haven't spent a cent, and I can play my favorite fun nostalgia decks. If I match with one of these stupid decks, I just surrender and go to the next one. There's no need to spend a buck on this game anymore. What's the point of competitive Yugioh when the main strategy is to pay to win? It's not fun anymore. Just plain boring. Everyone playing the same stupid deck. Where's the fun in that?

[@W_Sir_Morpheus]

4:28 meh, yall suppose to be good at this, adapt to the diverse format, diverse formats does better for the whole the game then what the top 5% want....

[@KiuhKobold]

When price gating finally starts hitting people who didn't complain about price gating, you KNOW things are getting bad.

[@calumbishop7082]

The next ban-list is going to be difficult, because a LOT of the powerful main deck cards are still very new. However it is worth noting that Snake Eyes has no in archetype extra deck monsters, pretty much all Snake-Eyes deck's extra deck's, are just a gallery of broken generic extra deck monsters. This might finally be the excuse needed to actually deal with a bunch of generic extra deck monsters (looking at you, Apollousa, Knightmare Phoenix, Dark Charmer Gloomy, Linkuriboh, Savage Dragon, Baronne as well as several others I've not mentioned).

[@pablepablo2321]

Lmao yea knightmare Phoenix is the problem

[@Xero-rr2ol]

its not the problem but its a problem. the knightmares are all problem cards.@@pablepablo2321

[@N12015]

You forgot Access Cotalker.

[@Nephalem2002]

Baronne and Appoulsa are definite bans in my eyes

[@monkeyismadd1825]

@N12015 There's no way that they're going to hit access code in any meaningful way because it's been confirmed as a card in the upcoming Rarity collection part 2, even if they do limit access code that doesn't change the fact that most people only play one anyway

[@Ignatiusofantioch87]

Why is it that everytime I think about getting back into paper Yugioh this shit happens again?

[@TheMelmanator357]

7:50 The difference between chalice and imperm for board breaking is that you have to choose pro-actively what your imperm negate will be on before doing your play. With chalice you can do your play like normal and when your opponent uses an on field effect to disrupt your play you can respond with chalice to the effect. This does matter as some hand traps like Ash or Belle must be used in response to the effect you want to negate‚ and if they use an on field effect‚ e.g. Apollusa‚ to negate your effect‚ you can chain chalice and your effect will go through because they can no longer use their hand trap to prevent the effect.

[@randomguyontheinternet5030]

2:13 Well I sure want to take a dump in this format cus dear god am I not playing a $1k base rarity deck. Could legit build every meta deck in the pokemon tcg rn and still be under 1k.

[@TheoJay615]

I'm more surprised we cycled back into a Tier Zero format so soon.

[@TheMysticRabbit0wnzu]

Imagine being in the yugioh community to the point they let you commentary for the tournaments but you can't play the current format cause it's too expensive

[@OwenLeBlanc-l7h]

Pretty sure that blue duelists did a bottom stock retention shuffle there with a half cut at the end to bring it to the top. It's subtle and likely hard to spot for people who haven't studied card magic.

[@unamusedrowlett6303]

My main concern is how theyre going to set up the banlist for this meta. Snake eye is going to be the next branded imo so if history repeats itself and we see a structure revolving atound diabellstar in the future and a good portion of the relevant cards are dead its going to be flakey. They hit the fire king portion, theyre poking jabs at pure and tri-brigade players who want to jump in(especially when that fire king princess card comes in). Feel like the only way out(both for the health of the game and comedic effect) is if they give Atlanteans the Blue eyes treatment where the new boss monster shits on every other meta deck the same way Spirit dragon did.

[@king_acceler8755]

It would be really funny if Atlantean SD 2 just came along and wiped out fire king. New poseidra just like stops cards from being destroyed or something.

[@Nephalem2002]

@@king_acceler8755”Cards can only be destroyed by battle.”

[@unamusedrowlett6303]

@king_acceler8755 just give them a true king of all calamities or shock master-like effect but exclusively for Fire attribute monsters

[@QueenAldra]

I just cannot comprehend paying over 1000$ for my deck when there is basically no prizes for this game. In other card games you could win ala big event and get a huge cash prize, with yu-gi-mans...... "oh boy a playmatt" its just stupid! Then of course, in like 3 or 4 months they will ban the whole deck anyways 🤣

[@rikacomedyletsplays2581]

​@RenNael666yeah no psychopath. This aint a way of life if theirs no cash prized

[@QueenAldra]

@RenNael666 see, i wanna play the game and have fun, but the issue is I cant justifyspending this kins of cash on this game, now lets use the pokemon tcg as a good example, the big decks are no where near as expensive as snake eyes is for yugioh, (you can actually build a fairly good deck for around $100) and if you win their big ass tournament (assuming there are at least 200 participants) the 1st place price is $10,000! I would gladly spend a grand on snake eyes and learn the format perfectly to try and win if that kind of cash was on the table. But the way konami handles the game is why I haven't played the physical game for years now.

[@-u-waa]

​@RenNael666 I don't think you realise how bad this sort of pricing will affect the meta lmao, this sort of thing leads to stagnation.

[@robinnewhouse1563]

​@RenNael666by that rate others will get out priced out of their hobby, meaning you'll have no one to play your max rarity deck with 😂

[@-u-waa]

@RenNael666 If you want investments go to the stock market instead of a children's card game lmao

[@michaelloveless243]

Wait for June. Ice Barriers are good and fun to play. I played 9 matches on Nexus last night and only lost 1 match and a total of 3 games.

[@xander6393]

As a infernoble player, vs this format with hiita fells quite nice :3

[@Dr.Frogerston]

Big Yu-Gi-Oh drama

[@reservationatdorsias3215]

*Huge Yu-Gi-Oh drama

[@undeadinside3571]

$1000 worth of drama

[@TDARazor]

time to kaiju everything as always

[@carlosmiguel1105]

People complained about the format being too wide. Konami hits a bunch of decks, now everyone is playing the same deck. That one deck gets more expensive because everyone is playing it. Everyone complains about playing against the same deck all the time. Bring back the wide formats.

[@vgmaster02]

Or, you know, how about Konami STOP PRINTING STAPLE CARDS IN SHORT PRINTED HIGH RARITIES THAT MAKE A FUCKING ENGINE COST A FUCKING THOUSAND DOLLARS. An ENGINE!!! That isn't even getting into the CORE of your deck! It's a goddamn ENGINE!!

[@MaliEndz]

@@vgmaster02they arent even short printed everything outside of bonfire came from core sets. You have the same odds of pulling an SP little knight as you do Visas Samsara.

[@vgmaster02]

@@MaliEndz Ok, then why is S:P 120 dollars then, huh? SURELY a NON short printed card wouldn't cost THAT much if it WASN'T short printed. THINK before you speak, dipshit!

[@Nephalem2002]

@@MaliEndzI genuinely don’t believe that. Cards are more expensive since they changed the ratios in core sets so I think Short prints actually increased

[@daezondario]

As a SHS player we could easily rectify this format if we had scarecrow(even at 1 would do)

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

that's why it's banned , they don't want the deck to be playable

[@daezondario]

@@Leonardo.ohime.i be real cool if they did though xD

[@daezondario]

Trade some of the ftk tools for scarecrow would be ideal

[@lz9275]

​​@@daezondarionothing cool about ftk'ing your opponents by setting up numerous negates and a floodgate that doesn't let you activate spells. But yeah, if something would be done with those generic jank that Konami likes to spam out in sets. But we know that won't happen

[@MaliEndz]

Droll fixes that issue

[@z1u512]

Honestly loving the new videos farfa and direYGO, keep up the good work

[@messiusonline2817]

and here i am still playing my destiny hero deck cause i just enjoy them.

[@harrymillar4193]

I built this deck in Master Duel because I thought it looked cool, but it just feels cheap and OP

[@bradlopez3681]

I love this format tbh voiceless is amazing.

[@ItsMePablo__]

Did Snake Rain get banned since there’s a great reptile deck. Haven’t checked the game since Tear

[@JogaFora]

Brasil foi mencionado! É nóis, caraio!

[@ArthurTheHumanIsPog]

Prrj representando

[@JogaFora]

@@ArthurTheHumanIsPog é verdade

[@dq7860]

Eliminate Archetypes, return to Good Stuff meta.

[@rojoeslardo]

The only solution to formats like this is going to your locals, waiting for them to play poplar and just crinkling it to a heavily played while you’re reading effects

[@morathehollow4797]

Sounds like a good way to get banned from any future events.

[@theholy1191]

Ignoring the price thing, I actually think if the tier 0 fire format was toned down with some direct hits to it, then the format could turn really good with some of the other decks currently waiting on the side like raidraptor, unchained yubel, and voiceless voice.

[@filipposmarkovitsis6431]

These small intro-stories farfa does get me every time

[@timotej121]

Why are there so many 40k comparrisons, is it a thing?

[@leonheart7]

19 Handtraps/non engine. Yeah this is the issue I've been talking about for years & in TCG its so much worse, the player who can run more handtraps wins usually because disruption + 1 card combos are what cause tier 0's. In TCG its just "Draw the out" gameplay, makes for a super unfun format until the banlist addresses the 1 card combo decks & promotes the "Whale" economy in YGO top cuts (Only the small minority of players putting 1000's into the game can reach the highest level). Its been like this since glow-up spore trishula was at absurd prices at the time, inflation made it worse.

[@Furnabulax1]

yea Nadhir, i stopped playing a few months ago, but like i WAS thinking of coming back, until i calced the cost of the shit i need for the Fire Deck, and realized it is about as much as a new iPhone 15 Pro.

[@Altigue]

“The Yu-Gi-Oh! Community is Furious” is the title and yet I saw absolutely no fury or uproar. Had to come to the comments section for it. Clickbait title.

[@hyoroemongaming569]

Comments do uproar. They complain 1 deck dominating while not playing different deck. They want to eat the cake while still have it

[@monkfishy6348]

7:55 Other than the obvious difference, Chalice can be activated during the Damage Step.

[@testifacatehour101]

Ill only be playing rogue decks, i cannot fork up for diabellstar or kashtira lmao, ill be on raid raptor and altergeist

[@jkid1134]

You think you're mad now, just wait until the emergency ban

[@Jerry4281]

The way i see it as the best players can get sponsored and supplied these cards where other YGO players or a majority of them are buying into a meta, people really do forget the aspect of trading or re selling veterans or people who have collections can probably get away with it, but some don't imo you need to understand that it isnt easy but you can always bring it back.

[@TheModernInvestor]

This has been a problem since 2008 with Tele DAD, im shocked that people still play YGO especially with how expensive it always is, every single format

[@WhatsUrName0o7]

I love when Joshua and Nadir play background music in their video to games they’ve never played.

[@JustGio1111]

I knew we were officially done when Kozmo came out. Was the last time I felt like any rogue or none tier 0 deck had ANY chance.

[@withanh9137]

It's wild to me that anyone could enjoy a tier 0 format in any game, like diverse formats are what keep games alive. Even "2-3" decks being viable shouldn't be considered healthy.

[@rafflez8961]

same; everyone complains about having to learn to play against 5+ decks when that's where half the skill comes from

[@exodia_apophis4133]

Damn Yugioh Players becoming Whole Foods customers in one format

[@the5thdoctor]

Konami will never change. This is why all my friends quit yugioh because everyone at my locals uses a top tier meta deck. They just don't stand a chance. Ill be over here having fun playing my old blue eyes. And toons after my good friend giving me the rest of the cards i needed and saving up for six months.

[@6em974]

Love the new video format

[@KarazolaX]

I feel bad for Yugioh players tbh. I've never gotten into it myself, but I have to imagine there's so many who are so sunken-cost into it at this point. And from an outsider looking in, it just seems like the game's mechanics are "With this monster, I activate its effect, which lets me slap you upside the head." over and over.

[@notoriousb3498]

All I'm going to say is that this format was not a surprise, we knew it was coming, and if you got witches wanted and bonfires a few days after release this whole deck is less than $500. There was a point in tine that bonfires were less than $70 for a card everyone KNEW they would need 3 of.

[@TripNBallsGaming]

And that's still extremely unaffordable for most people. You shouldn't need a six figure income to play the game competitively.

[@notoriousb3498]

@@TripNBallsGaming500-600 Thats about in line with the top of of standard decks in MTG, Pokemon etc... if you are buying from scratch with no prexisting staple collection. With Digimon being an outlier where tier 1 decks are usually 200-300.