I spent some time in this video discussing the amount of mental effort that goes into different approaches, but I didn't really address skip strategies (such as this map's flier-skip), so I want to do that here. I'm aware of them, of course, and I would agree that they are the simplest way to handle any given battle. The catch is that you're forgoing most of the experience and support points you might otherwise get. That's perfectly fine, but it does mean you'll have to be more precise with your roster management, and the range of strategies that you may be able to use in the future will be narrower.
@prestononuselogu99733 жыл бұрын
dude how are your units so strong wtf my arthur cant double which is expected it's arthur and he can't do any damage its like 14 damage and he is a beserker
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
@@prestononuselogu9973 Maybe you could give him some tonics and forge his weapon?
@prestononuselogu99733 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 I gave him like 5 weapons and forged a killer axe for him? I'm chapter 21 on hard. Anyways you got a sub from me live your vids
@prestononuselogu99733 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 also forging in this game is terrible
@mousefire7773 жыл бұрын
@@prestononuselogu9973 you typically only need to forge iron and bronze weapons. Everything else except some steel weapons are too expensive. Arthur has good growths and good classes. Not sure why he’s underperforming for you Edit: Can be helpful to forge slayer weapons too
@Mekkkah3 жыл бұрын
Zoran: selects Selena for the 5th time in a turn Selena: COME ONNNNN
@fubu722 жыл бұрын
"The question you should always ask first is: 'Can I just kill [my enemies]?' That's always going to be the most effective way to solve your problems." -Zoran, 2021
@DelanHaar63 жыл бұрын
That bit about cognitive load really stands out to me. Fates already throws a lot your way with what's on screen, between combat calculations, skills, debuffs, and attack/guard stance. Planning out support webs, tracking exp and wexp gains, and pursuing long-term class paths is another few levels of thought. You definitely reap the rewards for doing a Big Thonk and taking it all into account, but man if it isn't easier to just juggernaut with Xander and Corrin until Inevitable End rips that option out from under you. Or, more accurately, from me. I think one of the reasons people like me enjoy your content is that we get to see those rewards without having to brain blast from the avatar creation screen. I've re-evaluated my opinion of Conquest more favorably since coming upon your channel, but it's still hard to work up the motivation to apply all this cool stuff because I know it will require significant cognitive output that isn't immediately rewarded by flashing pixels and cool sounds. All this to say, well done! Yours is a special breed of game mastery and thoughtful presentation, and I truly hope your content takes off well beyond its current success.
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, there are two levels you can do the work on. One way is to puzzle out tricky things on the tactical layer, in which case you have to adapt to all the different effects (stat drops, hexing rods, lunge chains, dual strikes, etc.); I’m good enough to do that, but it’s genuinely difficult. So that’s why I prefer (and advocate for) working on the strategic layer, setting up interesting builds that are designed to anticipate and negate a lot of those tactical complexities. Like in the ninja cave or Ryoma's map: I don’t want to keep track of all those debuffs and poison effects and everything, so I’d much rather come in with a unit or two who's built to mow everything down. However, I do also think it's worth learning a few of the tactical tricks, because so many of the scary CQ formations crumble to attack stance and strong player phase offense.
@eyegnats3 жыл бұрын
Too tired to think of a comment today so I’m going to second this!!
@remnants99742 жыл бұрын
"but man if it isn't easier to just juggernaut with Xander and Corrin until Inevitable End rips that option out from under you" that's not so fun though... can't say I'm at the level of zoran's planning and efficiency but it feels so rewarding to find ways of allocating the exp and such to raise different units
@CyanYoh3 жыл бұрын
Your Conquest deepdives are genuinely my favorite FE content on KZbin right now. You're made me love the mechanical undercarrage of this game even more than I already did. Fantastic work all around.
@jonathanlgill3 жыл бұрын
Forget favorite "FE" content; this is basically my favorite content on KZbin.
@user-yc5lb8fw5r3 жыл бұрын
This man has a PhD in fates
@jontyhemme97603 жыл бұрын
“Could I just go kill them, that’s always the most effective way to solve your problem” man I love context
@jonathanlgill3 жыл бұрын
It turns out Peri is actually a genius tactician.
@bigzonks43933 жыл бұрын
My first reaction to seeing this map on lunatic was “how can I not play this,” and I ended up undeploying everyone besides ninja Silas so he could carry Corrin to the goal. Thank you for making this video, I enjoyed seeing someone actually deal with the problems this map presents instead of throwing away all of the potential exp and support points for the sake of an easy clear.
@MarceloKatayama3 жыл бұрын
Haha. "How can I not play this?" is such a funny an awesome reaction.
@spicybrad3 жыл бұрын
“Let’s go kill our problems!” hell yeah
@vishuprathikanti93523 жыл бұрын
Sudden Zoran singing was extremely unexpected but welcome! Was that really you? It was really good!
Literally the best Conquest Videos I've ever seen. Obligatory you helped me see the game differently. It was already my favorite Fire Emblem game, but with this new train of thought the gap just gets wider.
@jadenwolf69513 жыл бұрын
I just noticed Selena has a new model now she looks more formal in her wyvern riders attire.
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
She killed Scarlet and stole her armor. RIP Scarlet
@jadenwolf69513 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 Now I’m sad.
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
She non-lethally attacked Scarlet with her sword and then faked Scarlet's death by claiming her armor as a trophy. Yay Scarlet
@evansimpson82163 жыл бұрын
“Wouldn’t it be funny if Flora died to a crit” Bruh I don’t know what it was about that. It gave me a combo of laughter and dread lol
@davidnelson33163 жыл бұрын
Yeah that is what that level up feels like
@LeoWell3033 жыл бұрын
Funny how there's a song for everything, isn't it? Another stellar video. Imma just leave this comment here for the algorithm. Everyone should see your content.
@ThomazSDA3 жыл бұрын
These videos are probably the best videos I've seen on KZbin about Conquest. I just love the thought that is put into all of these. Thanks for making my day (again)! You speak about cognitive load and I couldn't agree more. I absolutely love Conquest. Dare say it's my favorite (although I love the GBA's era of graphics as well), but honestly, with how much goes on in these chapters, I tend not to play too many chapters in a row because I'm just thinking about how I can tackle the chapter and that sometimes takes a while. It's usually the first few turns that I try to plan out, but afterwards, I just roll with it haha. It can be exhausting at times, yet so rewarding if you clear a hard chapter and do all the things you plan out to do. I should definitely try out those mods though, they look super clean. I like to play on my 3DS when playing, but when I tried recording a chapter, the video and audio was so clunky. Streaming by wifi just isn't the best method for it. I did incidentally happen to record this exact chapter though (if people are interested, I never published the video because of quality, but here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r36ad5ulotN8nMk). If I ever feel like recording again, I'll probably do it on the computer. I have so many playthrough ideas, it's not even funny. Keep rolling out these bombing videos! The singing was nice too. :)
@jjilatt1233 жыл бұрын
Honestly on this map I always just deployed Xander alone, loaded him up with tonics, slapped Corrin behind him, and ran his ass to the ending as fast as possible. Doubling the Faceless isn't too hard for him to reach, if you give him both Speedwings, plus he's bulky and strong enough to just mow them down without too much trouble.
@asmontosborne31113 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought about making a series where you play a run of Lunatic Conquest live? Either on Twitch or KZbin. You could show your thought process going from the pre-run planning to the actual in-game planning and, well, gameplay. I’m sure a lot of people would appreciate it, and you could even add some sort of audience interaction like suggesting builds or characters to use.
@ebinku3 жыл бұрын
Ever thought on making a conquest tier list? I think that your way of thinking for the units can bring much better conclusions than much other tier lists that say "haha odin and mozu E tier, lmao".
@supasid65912 жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t realize you can safely get experience in this chapter. I’m not an LTCer but I always flight skip this chapter because I feel like I don’t have the bulk to take on the Stoneborn. I don’t flight skip because I want to, I flight skip because I have to. But your use of malig knights and lightning make want to replay while actually using non-Leo magic units.
@scrapyarddragon3 жыл бұрын
"could I just go kill them" "thats always going to be the most effective way to solve your problems" haha out of context very funny
@Antichthoon8 ай бұрын
Zoran you genuinely have the voice of an angel
@sprasle3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what impressed me more between the map clear and Zoran singing
@kendjacedric88133 жыл бұрын
You're voice is soooo pleasant to hear
@robinksuo29293 жыл бұрын
incredible absolutely phenomenal video
@HonkHonkGoose7763 жыл бұрын
Did I really just get woken up by Zoltan singing, lol
@HonkHonkGoose7763 жыл бұрын
Zoran dang autocorrect
@lokevstheworld52923 жыл бұрын
damn, pal. I wouldn't have figured you have such a pretty singing voice
@DelanHaar63 жыл бұрын
Also ROFL at the end, brilliant.
@MarceloKatayama3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Zoran! Really admire all of your work (and that singing was pretty good too!). I wanted to ask, how do you feel about the Owain (the fates entry) and Elise wiki entries being edited to fit more with what you've shown us with these videos?
@TheLegendaryFUSRODAH3 жыл бұрын
Great video! It's nice seeing these maps so thoroughly demolished. So I'm curious: Why is Silas a Falcon Knight? Is it solely for flight on this map, or does he especially need Rally Speed/Warding Blow?
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
It's just that he makes a pretty good Falcon Knight, if you want him to be, and I was trying to represent all of the available flier types
@mintx17203 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Can you do a video on how to go left in ch26? :)
@jonathanlgill3 жыл бұрын
The singing was a real Laugh Out Loud moment. How difficult is it to push Camilla to A-rank in axes by chapter 21? I know you've shown using Attack Stance as a great way to increase Weapon rank. It still seems like it would be a strict threshold to reach that early in the game.
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of different setups you can use, particularly in 10-14, where Camilla can provide a ton of dual strikes. When she's doing that, you can often choose either axes or tomes to train. If you focus on the former, then from there it's just a matter of continued use in 16-20 to get to A. There is also the option to use an Arms Scroll to reach A.
@proudherouser40693 жыл бұрын
ProudHeroUser 22:28 wow, never heard her say that before. I guess she doesn’t crit as a maid since I always give her the flame shuriken.
@lorddelibird Жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear. Only deployed Camilla and Corrin, made Corrin backpack for Camilla and ran to the end of the map
@alicecrawford10332 жыл бұрын
I swear that title is a reference to Something, perhaps a musical or something, but for the life of me I cannot place it!! I would really appreciate it if you, or a knowledgeable commenter, could clue me in (or just tell me I'm wrong lmao). Also, wonderful content and nice singing as well
@nikosagantz3 жыл бұрын
For a month I have no idea that Zoran was the one singing.
@LeoWell303 Жыл бұрын
How do you use the custom Malig Knight Tome animations that you used in this video? Also, a question that I've wondered about for a while is: If a unit kills an enemy with a dual strike, which unit gets credit for the kill as far as Statue Counts are considered? The lead unit, or the dual striker?
@tom_77683 жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@gabrielbitencourt3729 Жыл бұрын
by the gods, i am a idiot. i always equiped my generals with blessed lances on this chapter because they are "effective" and never considered the brave weaponry...
@marcoasturias85202 жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking thinking Wyvern Xander with Blessed Lance was top CQ performance...
@LilyPad_Spl3 жыл бұрын
Are you emulating this on citra, I assume so as one of your mods mentions that. The unit select voice mod, which when I first heard it just assumed it was part of the base game because nostalgia goggles, makes me want to play with said mods and I don't know how to start.
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
One of the links in the description goes to a guide on installing mods, whether you want to do it with Citra or on 3DS hardware.
@LilyPad_Spl3 жыл бұрын
@@Zoran501 to be honest I had checked that out but didn't read into it enough to realize Luma was for 3ds. Now that I have done some digging I see it now, thank you for redirecting me to it and apologies for not having done it myself. Oh and I forgot to mention, love your content.
@heroicvileplume71843 жыл бұрын
Quick question: I noticed that you advocated for early promoting Selena to help with ch10. How do I make her viable past that? It just seems like the enemies in chapter 12 far outclass her, and she barely 4 hits them with a bow
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
If I've insta-promoted Selena, I'd try to make sure I'm using her in favorable combat matchups: against ninjas in 12, wyverns in 13, pegs in 14, etc. A modest forge on a Bronze or Iron Bow and a Strength tonic can go a long way. FYI, the Selena in this video was not insta-promoted. She stayed as a Mercenary until level 16, used a Friendship Seal to become a Wyvern Rider, gained one more level (to get Str +2 faster), and then promoted to Wyvern Lord at level 17.
@heroicvileplume71843 жыл бұрын
Zoran Thanks for the help. One more thing: I’ve been doing a Conquest Lunatic Ironman recently, and I’m just getting destroyed by chapters 11-15. Do you have any general tips to help the mid game go by smoother? It really seems like Odin, MC, Camilla, and Arthur are the only combat units I can rely on
@mousefire7773 жыл бұрын
@@heroicvileplume7184 if it’s your first playthrough, take chapter 11 slow. Freeze makes the central room with the samurai a little easier Chapter 12 is mainly a gimmick map. I recommend looking up a map of the pot effects, it makes it much more bearable Chapter 13 is a rough one. Odin helps a lot with the Takumi side. Use attack stance a lot to take out each squad ASAP before they can overwhelm you Chapter 14 is mostly pretty easy IMO, just be careful and check ranges. Camilla can ferry Odin north to deal with the priestess and axe fighters. Chapter 15 is a lot easier if you’ve reclassed Corrin a few times. Something like wyvern rider after running through cavalier makes it a lot easier to run through the enemies
@grantsamson23843 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video that shows how you get all the seals needed to pull off all this class swapping? EDIT: Ah, I see you're using partner seals.
@hugoliste22043 жыл бұрын
I tried to download the Fire Emblem Fates HD Remaster v0.5, but looks like both the original mega link and the updated one are down, do you know where i could find it? Love your videos. Thanks in advance
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I can help with that, sorry!
@Aquageist76633 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use DLC at all in order to promote a majority o f your units like this, or do you have to plan out when you get the seals and who to use them on? And what about weapons and proficiency?
@Zoran5013 жыл бұрын
I always plan the seals to some extent, but I never use the DLC. Weapon proficiency is something that many characters can train up at a reasonable pace, especially if you use dual strikes a lot; you can also save the chapter 13 Arms Scroll if you want to make sure you’ll have someone prepared to use a brave weapon
@marcoasturias85202 жыл бұрын
34:21 Bronze Dagger
@SuperZez3 жыл бұрын
When did you promote this Mozu, out of curiosity?
@LeoWell3033 жыл бұрын
Level 15. You can check the description for that kind of stuff, usually.
@MegaScytheman3 жыл бұрын
this map is dumb imo. If they made the stoneborn a little weaker it would be pretty fun but you need some huge balls of stats to defeat them consistently. I sent in my two most effective slayers and was just barely able to kill about two stoneborn on each turn I could buff my guys. Also my unit management wasn't good enough to have people with a ranks to use brave weapons, oops
@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki3 жыл бұрын
Wyvern Lord Xander with a defensive pair up and some boosts (Defender, Tonics, etc), usuallly has enough defense to take 0 dame from the Stonebors, wich makes him a pretty good unit to send ahead and scout kill as many enemies as possible.
@mousefire7773 жыл бұрын
If you don’t have wyvern Elise with c tomes, it’s pretty doable to run Odin or opelia through wyvern rider to be a lightning malig knight. Malig Odin definitely saved my ass my last run. You also get a lot of blessed weapons to use, and you can use attack stance to spread that effective damage around.