The Zone That Changed WoW

The Zone That Changed WoW
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In WoW we have seen many changes to the game, especially in Classic WoW to The Burning Crusade expansion. In this video we explore and look at Hellfire Peninsula, the zone that changed the game.
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[@vaulty]

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[@timhaugen6410]

One of my biggest "OH SHIT!!!" moments was when the Fel Reaver's ground shaking knocked my Druid out of Prowl.

[@DPH_Psychosis]

**fel reaver mechanical roar**

[@umarsahi2610]

pocket fel reaver is the best pet

[@julieanusman011]

Oh shit, thats so cool! I didn’t even know that was a thing.

[@STCloud-xg6zc]

help he said "let me take you back to 2007" but then he never brought us back to 2024 and now I'm stuck in time

[@Airbag888]

Like and subscribe for a tour of the wow universe through the years.. you'll be back in present day soon enough XD

[@CharlesOsborne-kd9sz]

Stay there... it's better there. Enjoy it over again

[@DrewDvorak]

That's funny.

[@kyunshi31]

Invest in btc bro

[@julieanusman011]

Lucky

[@straighttalkwithkyle7947]

Going thought the Dark Portal was amazing, but the zone that really blew my socks off when I saw it for the first time was Zangarmarsh. It was so alien looking and was just visually stunning. Finding the dungeons in that zone was quite the adventure too. The lore with the Broken Draenei was great as well.

[@sickofitall8486]

Whenever I level a new character, getting to Zangarmarsh is always a highlight for me. I have never tired of that zone.

[@MoistLlama69]

Zangarmarsh is my favorite zone. I love it

[@Jedittee]

Thats my fav zone from Outland too

[@sickofitall8486]

@@Jedittee Hell yeah! Also great to run into a fellow HoMM III enjoyer.

[@midnightblue1874]

But after a while playing, that bluish tone in Zangarmarsh makes me feel like i'm hallucinating ,everything becomes blured and always feel tired and sleepy.

[@DEichenberg]

I remember how unsafe it felt... everything wanted to kill you. Everyone died at least once to the Fel Reaver.

[@jzayas5698]

Getting that flying mount for the first time was such a relief.

[@nakfoor1846]

The hype around TBC was insane. If you had been playing since launch, you had been seeing the old world for two years. To see the game expanded like this was breathtaking.

[@GHIBaal]

So many good recent years

[@Annihilation_0f_The_Wicked9066]

I do agree with you and thats exactly how i felt.

[@DrRhyhm]

If you write to yt search bar "before:2007 world of warcraft" you can see videos from that era or "before:2007 wow tbc"

[@Morrogh89]

Entering the dark portal was one of the most exciting moments in the game for me. Can't really tell which zone was my favourite, but I liked most of them a lot.

[@elwiseguy69]

Agreed. I will say Nagrand was my absolute favorite because it was a mix of familiarity but still alien.

[@Morrogh89]

@@elwiseguy69 Definately loved Nagrand for its contrast to the other zones which were all rather dark. Least favorite was Blade's Edge Mountains for sure, especially before flying. It looked cool, but getting from A to B was a pain. It still has a place in my heart for being the zone I reached level 70 at.

[@Ilikefinalfantasy795]

1V1 At the blades edge arena was a feeling though.@@Morrogh89

[@06hurdwp]

Yeah. Nothing compares to going through the dark portal back in the day when it was packed iwth people. A level of excitement that just cant be replicated.

[@freddythebulldog29]

For me as well, bringing me so much memory

[@noway-kc3zc]

For me, TBC was the expansion that really laid the foundation for my love of wow. The zones, the music, the atmosphere, the quests and story. While today, we regard TBC writing as a bit dated and lacking, it really felt like the team killed it. The Blood-elves were such a cool faction, and their introduction as an "evil" elf race, alongside the beaten and downtrodden Drenai was so cool. Likewise, Hellfire really set the tone of the expansion, an area of an ancient world on the aftermath of a huge war, still raging years after the conquest. I don't think there is an expansion that really comes close to what TBC was, and as a first expansion, it pretty much was one of the best that WoW could've gotten.

[@BIacklce]

TBC fully manifested the Frazetta aesthetic that warcraft had been founded on back in the 90s, and unfortunately it was phased out with each subsequent expansion.

[@Dawnrunner42]

You put it exactly right

[@Myrdden71]

Honestly, what struck me the most about that zone early on was that there was so much uneven/tilted terrain. It's like you were walking slanted half of the time. Buildings, too, were often tilted/slanted. That was so new and wild to me.

[@JasonDoege]

For me, it was Howling Fjord in WotLK. Before that, the mountains all looked like mounds of mashed potatoes.

[@WilliamAGould]

Burning Crusade was just a head above everything else in WoW. Its design and scope was grand and epic. Just going through the dark portal and the players find themselves in Hellfire Peninsula, which looks and feels like a Mars crossed with a fantasy version of Doom. The other zones expansion were mostly on par with Hellfire Peninsula.

[@nojabhere]

The PvP there was awesome back then also 😂

[@regolyth]

Except Blade’s Edge Mountains, it felt a bit unfinished compared to the others. The music was great though, I remember one area’s music had a vibe similar to Tristram’s Theme from Diablo II

[@littledeedaytwitchvods7016]

That first couple of weeks was SO HYPE.

[@SkiddlyDoo]

The Burning Crusade was the only good expansion. They actually attempted to take the existing World of Warcraft formula and expand on it in all of the ways that it worked. Instead of trying to "fix" vanilla, or correct past mistakes, they simply added onto vanilla and polished up the things that did work, while adding some new twists as well. After TBC, the game started becoming more and more streamlined. Instead of exploring a world, doing quests, discovering things on your own, it turned into an experience of leveling up, getting geared, and raiding. And I think the biggest reason why TBC is the only good expansion is because every subsequent expansion was spent trying to correct the missteps and mistakes it made instead of focusing on WHY it was so good. 50% of the story is locked behind very difficult raids that require full time dedication to experience due to the way attunements worked. TBC is honestly the reason why WotLK and subsequent expansions streamlined content, it was too difficult for your average player to enjoy, and they got much better feedback on the streamlined content so they decided to focus on that instead of world building. They made a brief return to form with Mists of Pandaria, but again they forgot what made that expansion good and kept going with the streamlined, "every player should have a similar experience playing this game" philosophy.

[@Renwoxing13]

00:12 idk if I am remembering this right, and or if your situation in this clip was a one off, or not always consistent, but : The wow devs placed the camera in such a way that you were forced to pan your camera around and take al that beauty in !!! amazing if so !

[@lycaeo]

My fav zone in TBC was nagrand by far, followed by helfire peninsula. Lots of personality and life (or lack thereof)!

[@user-ub8lo1zh7n]

yeaa nagrand is also my fave zone. Its beautiful there

[@jonasgeez2140]

Walking threw the dark portal with everyone else as soon as it opend was def wild and ill never forget it

[@mcfarvo]

Going through the portal was the best entry to a new expansion zone, the boat to Northrend with WotLK was appropriate, but Dark Portal was more exciting

[@GHIBaal]

TBC Classic Release was so much fun!

[@gabrieladerre2862]

I started playing Wow in the Summer of 2009! During the Midsummer holiday event! Wrath of The Lich King was the current expansion! We hadn't started to storm Icecrown Citidal yet! It was all so great! I feel so nostalgic, remembering it! I also remember how freaking shook I was, the first time that I went through The Dark Portal, and saw all those elite demons! With that Pit Commander standing in the background! It was awesome! I'll also never forget the first time that that damned Fel Reaver somehow snuck up on me! 😹💀😹

[@billbadson7598]

The Path of Glory is the single most memetically powerful thing that has come out of the Warcraft universe. When you really think about it, the name, the story, the history. The optics and meaning of nearly wiping out an entire race, then turning their millions of corpses into the foundations of a highway, leading directly to a gateway to another world where you intend to do the same thing. Knowing that the orcs who invaded Azeroth during the first two wars literally marched halfway across a continent, over the corpses of their enemies the entire way, calling it "The Path of Glory" and intent on doing the same to you and your children and your world, is next-level terror. The comic-book villains the Burning Legion became later never matched up to that.

[@mickharper4995]

I have always liked the music and ambient sounds in Hellfire, they evoke so much of the desolation and isolation of the people living there

[@brianshaw3903]

My favorite questing/farming area until the level cap rework. Always was excited when a toon hit 58 and the "real" game begins 😅

[@lawlestest]

also the crazy amount of stats you'd gain on hitting level 58, spells and abilities would hit/heal for so much more.

[@NES-Tone]

Good stuff man. This was a fun walk down memory lane

[@DrPluton]

I remember my human paladin stepping through the Dark Portal and being blown away by the skybox. The quests were great and gave good starter gear with plenty of stamina, but Hellfire Peninsula was amazing.

[@xalanii]

I remember going there for the first time and being in just straight awe. Everything looked so huge and different, and that sky that beautiful sky...and the score. TBC will always be my favourite expac

[@knightofthenine3121]

Helllfire as most of outland came to be because Morrowind was Wake up call for blizzard about making a zone alien and interesting to explore at the same time.

[@SimonRobeyns]

I mean if you see the amount of work they realized with classic compared to the somewhat small outlands its only natural they could up their game on the zones and all the detail. If I look back there were quite a lot of sick zones in TBC but somehow even after getting into TBC classic again it really didn't do much to me compared to classic vanilla. I think the classic vanilla zones are just so much more timeless in a sense and aged better for me.

[@Kahr64]

Definitely miss that moment. lol That was so insanely epic at the time.

[@MrMhtmht]

Burning Crusade was my all time favourite. Just loved the game so much, everything was perfect. The WoW Story during that time was peak and "on-going", the gameplay was peak - especially Open World PvP has never been better and also BGs. Dungeons were fun, though I was never the PvE player anyway, except for exploring the story and maps. By the gods it definitely was my favourite Expansion because it felt like you were "on the right track" where so many new things show up. Loved the feeling and music so much. Lok'tar Ogar.

[@DIEGhostfish]

7:19 Now THAT is the Terrorfiend.

[@pikpik42]

Very nice video. Older WoW had a huge amount of well made design decisions and I admire how people take the time to analyze it. I think it's a part of reconquering the old magic the game had with a bit of frustration about the more soulless later versions. I'm also glad this video is not overhyping shit in a 35min length. Earned a sub, great content!

[@whimzy9724]

I love it! Nothing like going through the dark portal for the first time

[@TheGizby]

I loved Hellfire Penisula back in the day. The terrain reminded me of Valley of Trials. As an orc i thought I'd proper grown up😂

[@boletop6204]

my biggest problem with hellfire peninsula is how small it immediately becomes the second you get a flying mount.. i remember it legit feeling like one of the smallest areas in the game

[@filipposstavro1233]

Although I started playing in WotLK, Hellfire Peninsula is my all time favorite zone. Icecrown is another one close to heart. And finaly the OG Vale of Eternal Blossoms.

[@hm714]

Takes me back, you could look at all the daily areas through eras, ie quel thanas and so forth

[@ShadowAkatora]

Hellfire Peninsula was really scary when I first entered it. It really did feel like an alien world.

[@LoneWolf-mu3xm]

TBC was already basically classic+ on a new map. I hope we get to revisit it once again at some point.

[@junk8714]

I’ll never forget this zone in wool of woocwaft

[@judithhobson5868]

i have not ever noticed the dragon on top of the dark portal b4 its what i love about wow you still discover new stuff 19 years after first launch

[@Oi40ozCasualty]

It always just felt like an extension of the Blasted Lands to me in most ways.

[@VallentinProductions]

I spent years in Hellfire Peninsula when i was 9 -12 years old. So many of my early gaming memories is from this zone.

[@cujoedaman]

"The interesting thing about the fel reaver is that you can hear it and see it..." Yeah, tell that to everyone who didn't know it was there until it was literally stepping on them.

[@goldeneye9859]

Yeah I think everyone will always remember a few moments in old school wow. Your first pvp moment, your first scarlet monastery run, your first guild, your first epic, and the moment you came out of the dark portal, maybe a few more things. These were good times for sure. We will never experience anything like it again. By the way I only consider vanilla and tbc wow as old school original wow. I enjoyed wrath but it felt like a totally different game to me. I would say the cut scenes are most memorable for wrath which was not the case at all for vanilla and tbc.

[@kekbish104]

wait its the guy that said asmong was stealing his content lmao

[@victorfrederiks4367]

What astonished me the most is that he had a Belf Paladin ready for Outland on launch day :p

[@Shiirow]

yeah the path in hellfire is just one massive unmarked mass grave site. a bit unsettling but a bit funny because its literally paving the way with the bodies of their enemies. you always hear villains spouting that, or something similar but here, its a reality.

[@punishedsneed]

Burning Crusade was, is, and always will be everything Vanilla wishes it was. The 1-60 experience is fine. But 60-70? The shattered remains of Draenor as you explore a world that was on teeming with life and beauty as it now sits as the warped remnants of what once was, torn asunder by the fel and the Twisting Nether itself? That's peak. Classes are all unanimously better designed, everything feels good, sin'dorei and draenei are a hugely welcome set of additions. I think MoP is where the game peaked with gameplay, class design, and raid content, but TBC will always be a work of art and my personal favorite, no matter how much I love Northrend and Pandaria.

[@lolbajset]

i love hellfire peninsula, the design, the music, the atmosphere, it all just comes together so well

[@BAAa-tw7lo]

I love Hellfire Peninsula! I wish you added here in the video, but you did a good job! First that leaps to mind are the quests with the Blood Elf pilgrim encampment in particular are many Horde players' first encounter with this new race in the game and the quests there showcase their culture and uniqueness excellent. In particular the quest with the wife who suspects her husband is unfaithful; rather than separate or divorce, or even taking vengeance on her husband, the scorned wife has you taking vengeance on the mistress instead, turning her into a critter as I recall? There's also beginnings of WoW's idea of creating an expansion overarching storyline, with the player unearthing the corruption of the red crystal colossi being spawned out from Pathaleon The Calculator in the far western edge. There's the Path of Glory, which unfortunately the game graphics do not quite deliver the promise on: the numberless skull and bones left behind by the Draenei who lie slaughtered there. That is some grisly lore for Warcraft. It's also worth pointing out that the Honor Hold theme that plays is just breathtaking, and inspired by Nocturne by Chopin. This piece, like most of TBC's soundtrack, was made by Matt Uelmen (famous for Diablo's soundtracks through Blizzard North, who stopped working at Blizzard after finishing the Burning Crusade soundtrack). Lots of great ambient tracks that I've used to help me fall asleep through the years. :)

[@Annihilation_0f_The_Wicked9066]

I enjoyed every second of TBC. It felt so strange at first leaving Azeroth and going into Outland. And it gave me the Blood Elves. My favorite race till the Void Elves appeared :D The music, quests, dungeons..i loved it all. The only xpacs that made me feel a bit like this were WOTLK and Legion, nothing else.

[@wentaoguan]

Dying to the fel reaver while questing is a rite of passage that newer players will unfortunately not be able to experience due to the zone revamp.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

lol I remember stepping through the Dark Portal being in awe of the huge battle, then hating it as soon as I landed after that first quest to fly to HH/Thrallmar. It was so jarring going from high fantasy to sci-fi. Going through the portal is an amazing experience the first time though, even if I didn't like Outland overall. This isn't to say I don't have fond memories of TBC, it's probably the most nostalgic era since I started playing WoW in 2007, but I could just never get in to Outland's atmosphere at all.

[@nickzand7597]

How u didn't even discuss the massive wall that housed 2 lvl 58-63 dungeons being ramparts and blood furnace as well as a lvl 70 raid that made for the alliance n horde having massive pvp battles due to the close proximity is bananas

[@CountMorris]

as some one who started playing WoW in WoTLK, it drives me crazy knowing that I'll never get this true experience of TBC and the beautiful Outland zones. Yes, I obviously went through them during my leveling and even now for Timewalking, but I wish I could have started playing during TBC or Vanilla for that matter. I'd argue that most of WoTLK zone design was also beautifully designed, just to a different degree.

[@Eventwow]

Oh I had so much fun there. After bringing my 2nd main a hunter to level. I had a horde try and gank me around the fel rever. A well placed ice trap and FD I ran away and watched the horde get one shotted 😂

[@srenchristensen7898]

The zone. The sounds. The music. The ... everything.

[@berkomatik8082]

I think entering the dark portal made me a RPG player that day. Took my breath away.

[@TheBull300]

Where's the tidbit about all the guards in honor hold being old as they have been stuck since the second war.

[@badass6300]

Yup, TBC had amazing zones, they were better than almost all Northrend zones and the questing was also better. In general TBC was a big step forward for questing design in WoW, but at the same time sometimes it's a bit too formulaic.

[@KyokujiFGC]

The beta version of Hellfire Peninsula is more based on Beyond the Dark Portal stuff from WC2.

[@henriccarlsson9052]

I started raiding in Wrath, but man was TBC good and fun.

[@Airbag888]

We got to remember the context of 2007 and how we were most of us snotty nerds spending all our time hunting pixels. For me the best zone of TBC by a long shot was Nagrand. I could spend hours there and again in WoD's Nagrand. The vibe of the place was just that amazing to me and with a flying mount even more. Meanwhile for me 1. Hellfire was a good introduction with the latter half being much better than the first one 2. Zangarmarsh was overall ok 3. Nagrand like I said, nothing comes close 4. Terokkar felt a bit depressive to me lol 5. Blade's edge felt boring 6. Shadowmoon again not interesting 7. Netherstorm had a punkrock feel which wasn't bad

[@NotTheWheel]

Yeah good ol' metal WoW. None of that scaley friendship crap. *cracks open monster* Yep!

[@thomasm9384]

So many happy memories.

[@misaru0]

Naladu was a cool questline I enjoyed it back then

[@JulianaBlewett]

Hearing the Fel Reaver's klaxon is what terrified me.

[@begley09]

Hellfire was my favourite zone.

[@lukesemail6980]

I miss it too, friend.

[@lIIest]

Hellfire is the Barrens with a different skybox

[@vbkngx]

100%. Hellfire was not a fun zone. These days people look back on TBC with seriously rose-tinted glasses but the fact is it broke a lot of what was amazing about the first two years that was vanilla. The start of a gradual departure from what made WoW feel great in the first place.

[@voiavictor]

Bruh what are you smoking?​@vbkngx

[@vbkngx]

@@voiavictor let me guess, you started playing WoW some time after 2006.

[@voiavictor]

@@vbkngx I actually started at the begining of wrath of the lich king

[@vbkngx]

@@voiavictor yeah that checks out

[@NicholasBrakespear]

The biggest change to the game regarding this zone was their very, very stupid idea to let players go to this first expansion zone... at level 55. To this day, people don't fully understand the long-lasting consequences of this decision, or how it shaped the "game not actually getting bigger" problem WoW has with its expansion content. By letting players go there at level 55, and making all the Hellfire Peninsula gear drops and quest rewards so good that they were potentially upgrades even for players who had maxed out level 60 gear from the old endgame, they rendered the old endgame content entirely obsolete. There was no reason to go to Scholo or Strat or even BRD, let alone do the old raid content. This set the precedent going forward; when Wrath launched, and they did the same thing again, suddenly close to 50% of the Burning Crusade content was rendered obsolete for the same reason. And if 50% of an expansion's content is rendered obsolete, then it's actually more of a loss; an otherwise epic adventure becomes a minor chore on the way to the "current" content, with the story and the player's own adventure becoming less and less coherent. Fast forward a few expansions, and you have a bizarre experience levelling up, where the bulk of the content is perceived as nothing more than an arbitrary obstacle to the latest small chunk, and the bulk of the story is a broken mess of anachronisms and redundancies.

[@iz5808]

Yes, the game started to feel a tad odd and silly with those kind of things. Imo TBC is basically a compilation of very bad additions/changes. Tho it's no wonder, TBC team was completely different from the vanilla one

[@mr.sophistication3232]

I saw the 70 level cap and how all my epic items were now worse than greens and uninstalled the game. Skipped the entire TBC expansion came back at the end of Wrath & had a good time back in Azeroth. Turned out other than Karazan it wasn’t any good so glad I sat it out. Vanilla was my best experience and no Xpac ever came close.

[@samdavies2069]

Such a tiny fraction of quests are cross zones…also questie is free and amazing as are all its peers that came before it

[@fieswow]

This Video is so great designed

[@keepgoing7533]

Zanagrmarsh is the best if you were a hunter as you could rp as a bounty hunter in space.

[@havokan45]

I hated the Hellfire Zone because of how the quest flow send around parts of the zone . Go over there and do wome quests there come back and quest here again. I think it was 3 quest lines that did in that zone .

[@MrZainel]

It was fun it was really nice experiance and everything but there was 1 thing that broke the wow and thats the Fly skill tnx to that world pvp become dead and the rogue class that was suppose to be great for pvp become be this class so they dont see you and fly down and kill you if they only had taken off fly in every expansion that would change it really and take off the AH do that and we kill gold farmers if you want something crafted you need to be in a guild or have it yourself but if its in guild you have to get materials to the Player and you get it BUT if you leave guild you cant use that eq becuse one off theirs made it with this we can change material cost and how much to sell it for when it become off boost stop with insta teleport and if they try to join one max lv or higher themself the dungeon will go after the one with highest lv and have more range mobs that do crit on range if they try to solo.

[@iz5808]

That is true, flying made the envirinment a lot more trivial, and completely changed the flow of the game.

[@Okhissa]

I hated Hellfire Peninsula. I have a fear of heights, and I was always concerned about the edge of the world. It was just very unnerving for me.

[@ichigoamv1473]

“You can hear it” good joke you can only hear it when it’s to late

[@geozeo710]

Great job Mr Vaulty. Good to see you back in the saddle.

[@81Earthangel]

It was nice to jump back into WoW for the expansion to see if the game became better after they made Vanilla worse and worse with every patch. Sadly it became worse and worse again and I stopped for good during Burning Crusade.

[@blazerashbringer2001]

good times

[@MarcosGonzalezGPZ]

Nice

[@medigoomnis]

Gosh yes, this was peak experience in WoW honestly. BC was ahead of the curve indeed but I'd say it was also never replicated in WoW. You didn't even mention the new alien motifs in the music/sound design in BC...best ambience in the Warcraft series IMO. While I agree that Hellfire was the best, but Netherstorm also made me wow quite a bit!

[@_blasfemy]

WHEN TBC era?!

[@StrikerZero6]

Or use addons like carbonite and such, which costs 0$, some of these sponsors are scams tbh...

[@Kiewicz92]

TBC

[@Sercer25]

Glad Burning Crusade is getting the recognition it deserves. Best expansion they ever had. WotLK was great, but TBC kept the grittiness of the game. And it had great balance.

[@Shiirow]

artistically, great. mechanically... not so much. and you have a very juvenile idea of "grittiness". wow has never been gritty, its been cartoonishly spooky but grittiness was never achieved in the history of warcraft and its gotten more and more cartoonish the longer it exists.

[@Sercer25]

@@Shiirow TBC did have the grittiness of the game as I remember it. It was brutal when it first came out, considering I was very young and my experiences made it seem like a very challenging game. TBC did have a gritty atmosphere to it, it felt raw and powerful. Vanilla sucked, so I suppose I shouldn't have added 'kept the grittiness of the game.' You're likening the past to the present by saying its gotten more cartoonish. TBC added no 'cartoonish' elements. WotLK did. Either way your view of my opinion on the game is subjective. Go watch some anime and de-stress, nerd.

[@yazdan5164]

i hate outland... flying mounts... i never play after vanilla😂 playing vanilla p servers right now as well

[@kramer1916]

so good to see everyone hates spergmongold now

[@blackefeltsch7459]

Best xpac. Best times.

[@a.f.7650]

Something they've failed back then were mostly the lack of time to implement things properly and those hideous lore retconned moments that broke almost half of what they had. Besides, according to some Devs from times back then the company was already pretty toxic before Bobby slaughtered it and left rotting that cesspool… Luckily Turtle WoW is there to save the day and if you just compare what they did then you'll see how Blizzard actually stealing their ideas. 😂😂

[@vargvikernes6366]

Wau o waukwaft

[@godlikesnake8909]

Burning crusade is the best expansion

[@the_wild_hunt1301]

Fel Reaver di not walk like that in early TBC he kinda rolled along and consequently the ground didn't shake, that was towards the end of TBC.

[@ilyasofronova6497]

Feet

[@hidaruma557]

Next "streamer xyz copies my Content" when?

[@DIEGhostfish]

HFPen honestly made me quit the game, I had too many bad experiences.

[@kyleveres3909]

Is this a joke? Hellfire is garbage. But yes I do remember having that wow affect after entering the dark portal

[@jonasgeez2140]

Wow i never knew the path of glory was made of pure bones or if i did i tottaly forgot but thats crazy thats alot of dead mfs