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Hey Guys. I'm covering this because as a member of NAFO and r/Noncredibledefense I could not let this go unanswered. The original stream was 3 hours long and quite frankly no one has the time nor inclination to deal with Gonzalo Lira and his Vatnik nonsense for that long.
So I suffered through the whole thing. Edited out the screeching and got down to where LazerPig and Gonzalo actually "conversed". As well as keeping in the funny parts. I occasionally jump in to debunk him.
So, turn off League of Legends. Tune out the news about Andrew Tate getting hospitalised or dumb things Prince Harry has said. And prepare for the undisputed worst debate in recent KZbin history.
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/ animarchy

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Just so you guys know. I pulled a 24 Hour All Nighter for this bad boy. I'm also mad I didn't get to join. Also, for those interested. I actually sing the Ukrainian National Anthem in English over the Credits. So if you want more ear pain. Good luck!

[@Pointclearius]

That's impressive commitment for not only watching all three hours of that clusterfuck but also pulling an all nighter to write and edit this video. Well done sire!

[@melvinjo1596]

Thats commendable. I tried to just watch it and just couldn't bring myself to do it. My brain just refused. Every second i could only think about what Lazerpig could have done with all this time in videoproduction 😭

[@VeteranFullmoons]

We were there for you. As you descended into vatnik madness.

[@kurousagi8155]

I’ll be honest, I was really looking forward to the aid videos. But this was way too memeable. From now on, the phrase “1:48:05” can be used to wish someone a painful death.

[@theculturedjinni]

Great respect!

[@patrikcath1025]

The fact he's using "Piggy" as an insult against a guy who literally puts a pig as his profile picture everywhere is great

[@KennyHazy97]

It's like when Wheatley tries to insult you in Portal 2.

[@deathblade2639]

@@KennyHazy97 "fatty, no parents"

[@luggilu7864]

Not to mention he calls himself a talking pig xD "Will you just Start squeeling?" "Yes. I'm a pig."

[@definitelyauniquename6237]

I really wish I found this sooner because I am cracking up and i'm just enjoying this

[@KingsandGenerals]

Dude basically created a dialogue tree and wanted his opponents to go through it. NPC behaviour.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Peak NPC behaviour.

[@finalMadfox]

OMG you are also here lol

[@AlejandroHernandez-ej9fk]

Define NPC behaviour.

[@finalMadfox]

@@AlejandroHernandez-ej9fk Basically, yes or no

[@AnimarchyHistory]

@@AlejandroHernandez-ej9fk the opposite of Main Character behaviour

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Public poll to officially declare LazerPig an LGBT Icon

[@Selvariabell]

LazerPig is the Live Action Inosuke

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

He's a national treasure.

[@murkywateradminssions5219]

i second this!

[@Ater_Swe]

Second that! He makes me a little ashamed of being hetero.

[@Jedi.Toby.M]

100% icon. When the words "oh honey" come out...

[@SargeantPacman]

"Bradleys are worse than humvees." I bet the bradley operators that disabled that t90m would disagree, lol

[@CircusJeanie2399]

Oh definitely.

[@danieljames1868]

Y'know, props to Destiny for hearing "If you ragequit you lose" and instantly going "yeah I lose, goodbye."

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@wombatgirl997 Mercury can be emitted from natural sources (e.g. volcanoes) and human sources (e.g. coal-fired electric power plants and gold mining). After being emitted, mercury cycles from rainwater into lakes and oceans, where it is digested by plankton and converted into methylmercury.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

@@wombatgirl997 Unironically the line goes hard, he would never change his mind, since he's so fcking close minded so he in turn wasted his time and lost

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@danielsurvivor1372 get your M.Pox vaxseen soon, won't you; and don't forget; ''wake me up, before you go go....''

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

The West, the Eu, and the NATO countries all imposed 'sanctions' so now live with the consequences!!! It is one thing to decide not to buy an item for yourself, but when you decide for millions of other people; it is another matter! I don't care who sells or who makes the items I want to buy. If I want it bad enough, I will buy it or find it somewhere else! The West doesn't want Peace. They want an expanded NATO and a weakened Russia. So live with your choices or get rid of the politicians that 'choose' for you!

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

Eastern Ukraine was fighting against nazis during WWII, while Western Ukraine allied with nazis. Eastern Ukraine was always pro-Soviet, while Western Ukraine was always highly anti-Soviet. And even the religion is different (Orthodox vs Uniate). So the internal division in this artificial state is so deep it's actually amazing how they could manage to live together for 23 years (1991-2014) without civil war.

[@n.a.4292]

Gonzalo Lira's debating skill level: >Iranian Tribunal

[@youtubeuser1993]

[@d0mram-02]

Nah this on the level of Romania's tribunal against Ceausescu.

[@aregularperson7573]

@@d0mram-02 nah the Iraqi information minster

[@nos9784]

You put the "smaller than" symbol in the wrong way. I think. Or I didn't get the joke.

[@pabis6817]

Like I said on his dumbass channel this was like watching a struggle session inside Gonzalo lira’s own head.

[@britishbiscuitslizardwitht8312]

Can we talk about this quote "You gonna keep squealing" "Yeah, I'm a pig, oink bitch" This is a perfect quote to sum up the entire interview

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

Lazerpigs later video explains it pretty well. Gonzalo Lira used ad hominems thinking it would trigger LP, but anyone who has seen LPs videos knows he's well past that point, so he just fell back on self deprecating humor as always, and that kept triggering GL so he kept upping the ante. This wasn't a debate. It was a roadrunner sketch, and GL was playing the role of the coyote.

[@JosephKano]

I woke my wife up laughing at that one, was fantastic. "Oink, Bitch!"

[@kaiserlowa]

@@thespanishinquisition4078 Someone needs to animate this and give it to LP.

[@Cdre_Satori]

Yeah, you know I like inteligent debates and civil discourse. I don't think YT suggestion algorithm knows the difference yet.

[@daviddunn9469]

Imagining lazerlamma rn: "Yeah, I'm a llama. Spit, bitch."

[@DrMario-]

That debate was the equivalent of me as a 6 year old trying to explain to my parents why I shouldn’t do chores and why I should stay inside on my PS2, failing horribly all the while. I sure Hope Lazerpig didn’t lose 10 years off his lifespan from this… well whatever you would call that shitshow of a debate.

[@TheEDFLegacy]

Nah. He's fine. That's why he was drinking _whine..._ 😅 Good for drowning out incoherent rambling of a Russian propagandist.

[@Strettger]

The only loser here was Lazerpigs wine cellar as best as I can tell.

[@guywholikesplanes]

@@Strettger Nah man, that cellar became a martyr.

[@nukclear2741]

Destiny was the smartest guy in the whole thing. Left as soon as he realized it was not a debate.

[@armorhide406]

@@nukclear2741 Lazerpig was a champ though for managing to piss off Lira without being rude

[@joeyhamilton6854]

“The US is the only NATO Country producing shells… the Bradley is worse than a hummer” god this is pure copium

[@electrohalo8798]

It’s also pure entertainment, need something to replace the Bradley wars in shear stupidity it becomes entertainment

[@graceliu8839]

So there’s no panick in the mobik camp? Every major non-NATO ally can work. And if the Bradley is a Jeep, then sending 3000 more cannot possibly escalate the situation~

[@murphy7801]

funny thing is I think Spain makes more shells than the USA.

[@tomstratman9977]

@@murphy7801 are you talking about that one Spanish company that has like $800 million worth of production capacity? Because once that kicks into gear oh god it’s gonna be like 1916

[@jerryalbus1492]

The last time they were the only producing nation in a war, a certain eastern nation literally got outnumbered 40:1 with SHIPS. Hell, even in ground US is out producing the USSR with tanks. Outproducing, and outdesigning

[@JABN97]

Wait wait wait. 33:28 Did he just actually claim there is no food in the Netherlands? Is this man even aware that the Netherlands is the second biggest exporter by value of agricultural product, only behind the USA and ahead of countries famous for their fertile soil like France and Ukraine? The Hell? Ludicrous. What a fool

[@Tikkibasse]

they created more land to farm more, best farming sim players

[@random_femboy_protogen]

I still cannot believe he genuinely said this, what a moron lol

[@random_femboy_protogen]

​@@Tikkibasse can confirm, the entirety of the Netherlands is farming simulator

[@МартинРупски]

The numbers are inflated because of reselling of imports, but still the Netherlands are a massive farm.

[@Cat_Zeppelin]

As a Ukrainian: I just wanna talk to him *loads buckshot*, I JUST wanna talk to him

[@Norbrookc]

Rock salt works better. Gets under the skin, and well... it's a bitch to get out.

[@helljumper5601]

How about .50 BMG rat shot?

[@Norbrookc]

@@helljumper5601 Too quick.

[@Cat_Zeppelin]

@@helljumper5601 never heard of it but I love the implications behind the naming

[@Cat_Zeppelin]

@Lurking Carrier ​ @Lurking Carrier To be honest it is scary af, how barriers for violence and hatred are melting away all around us and in us. I like to self reflect, and I was against any war anytime. Fought last time in school. Now But this... the shit they started, they gates to hell they opened for all of us, the lies they tell with this fake concern, they shit they do, to civilians, soldiers (who were civilians on 23.02, most of them), and to children especially. Ptn maimed entire generation here, in russia, and people around. Being exposed to this, even through tv is not a good thing. And will takes decades, even generations to move on. I've been, not so long ago, on the border of Poland and Germany, the place ww2 started in 39. Now there is no border guards, no barbed wire, roads are not mined and bridges are not rigged to explode. That kind of perspective gives hope for the future

[@mikeontheradio248]

I belive i read a comment in reddit that said "After a while you can hear lazerpig busting out another wine bottle sincr he knew this was going to be a loong shitshow"

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Oh you can. Multiple times.

[@SeanOReilly44]

Sure he posted a image of his sink wash board covered in the amount of bottles of wine he had to go through XD

[@justindieterich1773]

I mean how many bottles did this guy go through in his previous video on him?

[@adenkyramud5005]

@@justindieterich1773 yes. The Answer is yes.

[@blackhawk15897]

@@SeanOReilly44 IIRC, it was 1 cup of tea, 5 bottles of wine, 1 bottle of Vodka, 1/2 a bottle of whiskey, and a 2-liter bottle of Coca Cola. The man has the patience of a saint and the alcohol tolerance of a Greek god.

[@luminous6520]

We need a round table with Lazerpig, Animarchy, and Perun.

[@trainboi777yall6]

That would be chaos

[@michaeldalton9826]

Oh god yes! I would be there for that! Especially if it's a drunk stream

[@ag7898]

I would watch the living shit out of that... on all three channels so they get views on it.

[@jameswhite153]

YES, someone please get it done.

[@FixedGearFox]

Throw Hypohystericalhistory in and it might shatter space-time. Im all for it.

[@GrumpyIan]

"I'm a pig. Oink bitch.". That was the equivalent of a mike drop.

[@DerArbeitsloswHaiderIX]

Rip Mike 2023-2023

[@speedman69420]

@@DerArbeitsloswHaiderIX sorry to correct you guys but its mic this isnt meant as a insult

[@Linki8uu]

@@speedman69420 the replier knows that’s why he said rip

[@speedman69420]

@@DerArbeitsloswHaiderIX he is gone but not forgotten

[@fleckenfurz77]

Nah. It is an admission that he is a drunken pig regurgitating Ukrainian fascist propaganda.

[@tonlito22]

It is frankly infuriating to hear Gonzalo Lira, formerly Coach Red Pill, attempt to argue from a moral standpoint and declare himself the arbiter of good and evil. And to claim to love the Ukranian people and nation while throwing out propaganda from their vile enemies and referring to their legitimate government solely as 'the Zelensky regime'. Lira began visiting Ukraine in 2012 for the same reason grotesque failed men visit poor nations all over the world: he was a sex tourist. He came stay after the 2014 invasion not for love but to take advantage of a nation in turmoil. I called him a dog in his own comments but that was wrong, he's something between a vulture and a hyena come to a dying beast hoping to chew what flesh was left on the bones. Then, last year, when Russia broke the peace in Europe and invaded her neighbor, he joined with them, freelancing propaganda with a mind to a job in the inevitable post Russian victory regime. He fled Karkhov when it was clear his patrons had been defeated. This is the reason he is so angry: the beast he thought dead, that he could pick the corpse of, was in point of fact a wounded lion. And that lion has claws.

[@Cpt.BEARDless]

How the fuck dare you insult Vultures and Hyenas like that. Youre crusing.

[@zachw4947]

His tone completely changed when Lazer Pig dropped his old avatar name CRP. LOL id just tell him to go back to hanging out with Ethan Ralph

[@Palemagpie]

In defence of vultures. They actually furfill a vital role in their ecosystem. They stop the spread of disease and fertilize the environment. I'd say it's more accurate to think of him as a parasite. Even if, much like a vulture. The dude was full of crap.

[@definitelynotakgbagent6612]

Could I get some information on this?

[@joshuayung5158]

@@definitelynotakgbagent6612 look up the terms "Gonzalo Lira" and "coach red pill" and there should be plenty. The kind of insufferable loser who no one can stand in their home country so they move to an economically depressed nation where you can wave around a few benjamins and live like a king. I'm not surprised to hear him associated with Ethan Ralph (another odious individual), though I'm surprised to hear they had a falling out. Must have been tough competition in the vocal internet sex pest niche.

[@robertsullivan4172]

You skipped some great moment to call Liara out on his fake love for Ukrainians. 1. When he said he can't speak ukrainian despite living there on and off for 10 years. 2. When he heard a "air raid siren" he said he wanted ukraine to get rid of them cause "they're just going to die anyway. The siren won't make a difference."

[@Destroyer_V0]

That last one... yeaaah. Clearly he was living there more OFF, than on. Just so happened to holiday there in 2016 for 5 days, then another 5 days in 2021 in crimea or something.

[@robertsullivan4172]

@@Destroyer_V0 I know. I'm amazed lazerpig didn't call him out on that one more. Like oh you care but you don't want them to try and prevent them dying from strikes. Sure thing the fucking liar.

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

Ten years without learning the language. I hope he knows Russian at least. It's almost impressive

[@purplefood1]

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 It really is, 10 years without even learning the language is impressive.

[@Novacane392]

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 he doesn’t know Russian as well.And you doomed in Ukraine if you don’t know Russian/Ukrainian.

[@skoldmo762]

Russia: "Ukraine used to be part of russia and there for its justified" Mongolia: "Give up russia to us as we used to rule you"

[@ScorpionViper1001]

Mongolia, when possessed by the spirit of Temujin: *Iron Man riff begins playing* Awesome Loona pic, btw.

[@ladywaffle2210]

@@ScorpionViper1001 The ground starts shaking in the Kremlin. Putin asks, "What the hell is that?!" He looks out the window to see the Hu roaring by his house, blasting AK-12s they stole from dead Russian Spetsnaz troopers they overran at Kalka River while singing Wolf Totem as loudly as they can manage. As Putin watches, the guards out front are riddled with precise 7.62 rounds and slump over. A rider dismounts, snatches away the guard's rifle and ammunition, and then hops back on her bike and roars away before the rest of the security force can arrive, laughing as shots whizz past her head. Putin curses and orders armored pursuit. His generals inform him the Mongolians have stolen the fuel. He demands infantry pursuit. His generals inform him the infantry is far too slow to catch the riders. He demands the riders be identified. His generals tell him they must have been Mongolians. He asks why. His generals answer, "Who else would shout 'For the Khan!' in a drive-by?"

[@attilamarics3374]

@@ladywaffle2210 When did Putin or any Russian official said this conflict is because Ukraine was a part of Russia?

[@kyosokutai]

@@attilamarics3374 Every day for the last eight months. Among other choice reasons bordering on fanciful to delusional.

[@attilamarics3374]

@@kyosokutai Thats not true. I guess you have sources and quotes.

[@asureaskie]

Yes, there were bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They were established there by the Soviet Union. When the USSR collapsed, one of the things the USA did was help finance the repurposing of those labs and the continued funding of those scientists' paychecks so they wouldn't be tempted to go work for people like... Iran, Iraq, North Korea, China, independent actors... The USA also helped fund the cleanup of those sites, so places like Ukraine wouldn't suffer the same anthrax outbreaks that happened in Russia. Go look those up for a fun time. So in the most asinine literallist view of the claim, yes, the USA was funding bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They just happened to be Soviet labs that were no longer in the bioweapons business.

[@emergcon]

There are also Biolabs with the highest level of securty (BSL 4) in ukraine because, even if people like Lira probably dont belive this also, we just survived a majoir pandemic and scientists all over the world are experimenting with potential dangerous viruses and bacteria to get ahead of the next panedemic. They are often supported finacialy by countries who have a lot of money because the last pandemic caused a big hit on our enconomies. And of course the west or everyone who is not completly stupid is afraid that russia could target one (after they run out of playgrounds, schools and kindergartens to hit) and cause dangerous samples to be exposed into the envoirment.

[@crudeodin0213]

Out of curiosity what are those labs being used for now?

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@crudeodin0213 I'm guessing researching means to reduce losses in potential BnC attacks?

[@emergcon]

@@crudeodin0213 They are probably shut down so they dont start a new pandemic with some stupid infuenzia virus if russia shells them "by accident" because the run out of appartment buldings to bomb.

[@PastoriosMuppetus]

@@crudeodin0213 Like most other bioresearch labs around the world - studying pathogens how they work and to develop cures and vaccines for said pathogens. Nothing but good considering bad actors have tried several times to use bioweapons as a means of terror.

[@JimmyEatDirt]

🦀 Lira is gone 🦀

[@christopheralejandromezapa8934]

🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦞

[@Dasycottus]

I wouldn't count on it. The dude's assassination by the SBU was announced a solid year ago. He wasn't dead then :(

[@benoitbvg2888]

@@Dasycottus Pretty much confirmed by everyone, including his family.

[@fatchins9126]

i mean i didnt like the guy but cheering for his death? thats a yikes from me

[@cgallegos2106]

@@DasycottusHe died from medical complications in prison. He was an anti-vaccine person who got long term Covid and pneumonia while in prison.

[@piccolo917]

I made a list of this guy's presentation and answered each question according to what I know from the top of my head. It was laughably easy. Slide 1 Q: The Kiev Regime was doing nothing to provoke Putin into invading Ukraine --- Putin’s invasion was groundless. Correct. Q: Putin has imperial ambitions and is inherently evil. Putin indeed has imperial ambitions. Kraut made a pretty good video on this “The Ideology of Putin’s Russia” published on November 1st 2022. Is he evil? If defined as “the opposite of good”, then yes. He has people murdered on a regular basis. That alone is pretty much all that needs to be said on that matter. Slide 2 Q: Putin invaded Ukraine because (1): - Constant shelling of ethnic Russians in the Donbass since 2014, resulting in 16.000 dead. There were no 16.000 dead. And if it was Putin’s goal to preserve life in the Donbass, conscripting their men and sending them to war with insufficient equipment and training is not a way to show that he cares about their lives. - Kiev Regime figures calling for ethnic cleansing of all Russians from the Donbass and Ukraine generally. There was no ethnic cleansing. - NATO expansion into Ukraine, with the likelihood of nuclear weapons on Russia’s doorstep, was an existential threat to Russia. NATO cannot expand into a nation. That nation has to apply and be approved by all members. NATO can’t point to a nation and demand they join. Nukes on Russia’s doorstep would be irrelevant. It’s not the Cuba crisis anymore. Nukes already have global range. If the US wanted to flatten Russia, they could already do so. NATO is a defensive alliance and cannot be used to go to an offensive war. There was no threat to Russia. Slide 3 Q: Putin invaded Ukraine because (2): - Western biological weapons facilities in Ukraine. Incorrect. There were biological research labs that did research into (possible) pathogens. That is not the same as bioweapon labs. One tries to find out how to neutralize diseases, the other tries to weaponize them, it’s the exact opposite. - Kiev Regime unwilling to abide by Minks II peace agreement. As was Russia. - Kiev Regime about to launch an invasion of the Donbass. Citation needed. Slide 4 - The conflict in Ukraine is in fact a proxy war between the US and NATO against Russia If you squint your eyes and cross your eyes, perhaps you can see something like that. But no. This is a group of nations supporting the liberty of a nation attacked by a larger neighbour. - The goal of the US and NATO is regime change in Russia, and the physical break-up of the Russian Federation into several smaller countries --- that is, the destruction of the Russian nation. There are people with NATO nations who would like that to happen. Of those people, there are some in government. However, there are also people who don’t. One example: French president Macron. It may be surprising, but in a black of nations of hundreds of millions, there are many opinions floating around Slide 5 Q: The US and NATO, directly as well as through their Zelensky Regime proxy, are winning this war against Russia. Ukraine is pushing Russia back and has already recaptured well over half of territories occupied by Russia. Does that mean they are winning? Depends on your definition. Most people would say yes, you have decided no due to a different definition of winning Slide 6 Q: Economically, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia: - Sanctions against Russia have backfired. How? - The European economy is deindustrializing because of the sanctions against Russia, with high inflation, and a GDP contraction that may be as high as 10% for 2022. Citation for deindustrializing. There is indeed high inflation in Europe (including in Russia), but this was already the case prior to the Russian attack in Feb 2022, without that, I’m not convinced this current inflation spike would be there or as bad as it is. Citation for 10% contraction of GDP over 2022. That’s ridiculous. - The Russian economy suffered minimal damage, with moderate inflation and only 2,7% GDP contraction. It suffered damage. Especially in the hard- and software dependent markets. The damage to the overall economy was as minimal as it was due to high energy prices prior to the enactment of sanctions which lead to record profits. These are now largely gone. These record profits were key for the Russian central bank to be able to pay for their sweeping measures to support the economy. I have my doubts that these measures will be able to hold ones the money tap is turned down. We will see. Slide 7 Q: Diplomatically, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia: - The Collective West has become isolated from the rest of the world - while Russia has improved its relations with every other country outside the West. I have a very hard time believing this. The Middle East, for example, is highly dependent on Ukrainian grain and food oils to feed its populace. I, to put it mildly, have my doubts that the Russian blockades of these vital foodstuffs has improved these nations’ opinions of Russia. - The rest of the world no longer trusts the West, because of its admission that the Minks II Agreements were to buy time to arm Ukraine. Which is something that was admitted to from pretty much day 1. I somehow doubt that people would have a hard time disliking nations for helping another one after a piece of it was annexed by a hostile nation. Also, if it’s keeping to your word you’re worried about, how does Russia’s statements that the military exercises prior to the war in Jan and Feb 2022 were not a setup to invade Ukraine stack up? Because Putin and the rest of his Regime blatantly broke their word there. But then again, they do that so often that it’s expected so not really shocking anymore. - The rest of the world is turning to China and Russia, away from the West. Citation needed Slide 8 Q: Militarily, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia: - The conflict has developed into attritional war. You know what, sure. - In an attritional war, conquered territory does not matter --- all that matters is annihilating the opposing army’s forces. No, it’s about the will to keep fighting. Case in point: Vietnam. - The US and NATO does not have the industrial capacity to replenish Zelensky Regime losses on the Battlefield. That is a joke, right? The main problem with supplying Ukraine, by a margin so wide it could encircle the earth multiple times over, is political. - Therefore, prolonging the war will do nothing except destroy the Ukrain(ian) nation and people. Prolonging the war by not rolling over will indeed result in more death and destruction. However, rolling over will just signal to Russia that what they are doing works. They would just rearm for a few years and try again somewhere else. That’s what they did with Georgia. Slide 9 Q: Socially, the US and NATO are losing the war against Russia. - People in the West are suffering --- and protesting. Define suffering. I’m currently sitting in a slightly colder house with slightly warmer clothing. My fridge is still full, my life has barely changed. If this is what suffering means, I can’t feel too sorry for those damned to hell. And yes, there are protests. There are always protests. France is part of NATO, after all. - All governments in the West have the support of less than half their populations. Which is different from before the start of the war, how? Welcome to democracies: people dislike their governments. - The only thing maintaining the Western Regimes’ power is the relentless media propaganda and social media control Riiiiight. That’s what’s going on. Not that they are able to supply lives comfortable enough to not want to. Also, mentioning “relentless propaganda and social media control” as if Russia does not do that is laughable.   - In Russia, most of the people support the government measures; Putin has +75% approval. After the aforementioned “relentless propaganda and social media control” and criminalization and assassination of opposition and their leaders, yea, I’m sure it is. - The main complaint in Russia against Putin is that he is not going hard enough in Ukraine and against NATO. I don’t know, I don’t really care.

[@ARCCommanderOrar]

Reading this, several times I stopped and laughed. This is quite funny. Thanks for that:) most of these "questions" are more statements, poor man went into his own battle without planning for it

[@jacobnoelle8428]

detail might be wrong but it more right then Gonzalo and he had more then 5 seconds to think about it

[@seanmac1793]

With the proxy war talking point, I usually concede and say so what, that doesn't mean the Ukrainian cause isn't righteous.

[@kurousagi8155]

YES OR NO?!?! Wrong. We’re moving on.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

you, good sir, are very well informed! Loved the concise answers you gave.

[@ethanwatt-dz3xq]

“Therefore evil is a duck” Lmfao

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

"if you rage quit, you lose" Proceeds to rage quit by kicking him out.

[@samuelbrown4329]

38:40 Gonzalo literally admits he tailored his format because of Lazerpig. He literally calls it a “nice little bubble”, and dares to see he’s defensive. The dude built fortifications prior to battle.

[@kabob0077]

And even then they still fell before the might of LazerPig like an agri-world against the Iron Warriors. To paraphrase one Iron Warrior, his fortifications were weak MUCH LIKE HIS ARGUMENTS!

[@shikatsu]

@@kabob0077 That is it all Imp Fists are Scottish now...

[@kabob0077]

@@shikatsu This is fine.

[@shikatsu]

@@kabob0077 Yes ( :) )

[@ebperformance8436]

Gonzalo the pig still failed.

[@dictatormalenkov3522]

"I used to think of Russia as a bear... I now view Russia as not just a slug, I see it as an international embarrassment of every single human right..."

[@swordsandsheilds5564]

That's an insult to slugs my friend. I would say, it's more of a mosquito.

[@vixshire3672]

@@swordsandsheilds5564 I’d say a leech mosquitoes have a Good Population and help the Environment Russia is neither

[@beavatatlan]

@@vixshire3672 Sorry, but how do mosquitoes help the environment?

[@vixshire3672]

@@beavatatlan the males are pollinators the females are the bloodsuckers They are also prey for many insectivores

[@apotato6278]

@@beavatatlan Yeah, they're an important part of the foodchain. Birds, frogs, fish, turtles and even other insects all depend on the abundance of mosquitoes. Funnily enough that's also why there are so many mosquitoes; to avoid complete extinction they reproduce at an astonishing rate. A single female can lay over 100 eggs at a time. With an egg-to-adult lifecycle of just 8-10 days that could mean 10,000 mosquitoes in 16 days. In 24 days you'd have 1,000,000 mosquitoes and 100,000,000 in just 32 days. That's almost enough to individually bite every single citizen of Japan. For more fascinating mosquito facts contact your local office of mosquito affairs. If you want nothing to do with mosquitoes then contact your local Icelandic Embassy.

[@harmoniacaotica]

Putting forward multiple choice pseudo-questions based on false premises where any choice has a predetermined falacy that he can pick on based on his predetermined narratives really shows how hollow his ability to argument is. It's like playing one of those old computer adventure games but designed by people with Possessive Obssessive Disorder. Praise to Lazer-Pig for trying and for the Golden Globe worthy editing.

[@L30n4rdo6]

Gonzalo's questions to LazerPig were basically "agree with me or you're a coward warmongering NATO propagandist"

[@gamingforever9121]

@@L30n4rdo6 probably because lira is a Russian propagandanst

[@MadnerKami]

As a German I can say: We're having between 2 and 5% unemployment rates since 2018, all the way through BrExit, CoViD, Post-CoViD and this unwarrented agression by Russia against the world and Ukraine in particular. Worst thing that happened to us in the last ten years? Toilet-paper shortages during CoViD, which were largely caused by panic-buyouts and supply-chain issues due to CoViD. We managed to raise an LNG-terminal to substitute the lack of supply from Russia within a matter of months. We're doing fine and our largest problem right now is people growing too old and not having enough children or immigrants to compensate and this his absolutely nothing at all whatsoever to do with anything going on in the world.

[@yaroslavchechel6116]

Having watched about half of the vid, being Ukrainian, I may have received irreparable brain damage. Being also an economist, I am having fits of uncontrollable rage wrt Lira's "economic" points. And this Australian man had to watch this more than once to make a video. I sincerely appreciate what you are doing, but please think of your mental health. Lira is not worth it.

[@victoriaskuse118]

Well said… it truly was painful to watch 🤯

[@_Tumbl4_]

Дякую Богу, що Лазерна Свиня на нашій стороні!

[@yaroslavchechel6116]

@@_Tumbl4_ та не кажи, боротись проти стоїчного гомоеротизму на підпитку було б дуже важко

[@_Tumbl4_]

@@yaroslavchechel6116 ходять чутки що його печінка настільки міцна що з неї роблять лобові плити для т-72

[@josecolon2717]

Thank god I wasn’t the only one foaming at the mouth when he mentioned any economic points. They were either total bullshit, taken out of context or outdated. GDP does not matter when looking at a nation that had to go full national production to make up for the loss of almost everything they traded for, not to mention they inflate this by only looking at the urban areas of Russia, not the ones drained of population to feed the war machine and paying those areas remaining residents with surplus junk and instead of money (they are running out of cash in Russia like it’s insane to say they are doing well economically when most banks are down to their emergency reserves of physical money outside of major cities)

[@kurousagi8155]

I wish I could send Lazer Pig a nice bottle of cab.

[@ArcturusOTE]

And maybe some hugs And some jugs of moonshine

[@fluffynator6222]

You can donate, I think.

[@lonelyone69]

@@ArcturusOTE ugh moonshine is GOAT

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

You probably can

[@AmIDeadAgain-dv5pn]

gonzalo lira is a prime example of what zero self-reflection looks like

[@mycure0498]

It begs the question, is he ignorant or evil?

[@kurousagi8155]

@@mycure0498 yes or no answer only though.

[@AutoAxpert]

@@mycure0498 trick question, he's ignorant and evil

[@dovid916]

@@kurousagi8155 Define yes.

[@stopkoby7237]

@@dovid916 the opposite of no.

[@billwill7383]

You out lived him. Lazer pig wins.

[@Vulcano7965]

but ngl, LazerPig proposing to sing the ukrainian anthem was genius.

[@Strettger]

I'd fully confess, I'm balls deep NAFO and I could not sing the Ukranian national anthem. Stand, salute and weep manly tears, hum if as best I can but that's all.

[@Vulcano7965]

@@Strettger well this dude claims to live in ukraine and quite for some time as well. On top of *really* caring for ukraine and ukrainian lives. So he should at least be familiar.

[@azravalencia4577]

well, because of that we know truly knew where his being is.

[@markwiering]

Even if you support Ukraine politically: it has one of the worst anthems imaginable. The Russian one sounds powerful. The Ukrainian one starts with: "Ukraine still hasn't died!", which is self-defeating, because it indicates that you are waiting for your nation to die.

[@warbrain1053]

@@markwiering i mean. It depends on what you look at. Finland/Poland had similar very culturally important songs/moments ("Poland is not yet lost !" Last broadcast of the warsaw radio station). It means that whatever happens, they will resist

[@gamergz2551]

The copium this guy was on is propably on the same level as Panzerschokolade levels of copium.

[@darnit1944]

Panzerschokolade is not even used to cope. It contains meth, a drug that literally made people violent lmao

[@tarickw]

I'm so happy you clipped the best bits, lazerpig was doing great and now at least more people will see this stellar comedy from lazerpig because my god, you don't want to watch the whole 'debate'

[@armorhide406]

I watched till he got kicked. AKA gonzalo ragequit given he said whoever ragequits, loses. Worst two hours of my life. And I had "double dragon" at boot camp. Shitting and vomiting.

[@sa80slayer85]

5/4/2023 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN…WE GOT HIM!

[@paranoidandroid7718]

Reminds me of a Dungeon Master I used to play D&D with, he would get upset and threaten to quit we asked a question that he hadn't anticipated. Had no capacity for thinking on his feet or adapting storyline, just got louder and more obstreperous if we pointed out the holes in his logic. This guy Gonzalo is 30yrs older, but is just as immature.

[@barrybend7189]

As a player of D&D it's a player's given right to either be smarter or Dumber than the GM. But in debates you must be equal or greater knowledgeable in the subject or you fail like Gonzalo did.

[@gibberish131]

Why does listening to Coachredpill always make me think of conversations with my Mum after she has been reading conspiracy threads/groups on Facebook, telegram and WhatsApp...?

[@devilin100]

Odds are he runs the conspiracy group.

[@bosknight7837]

Because he’s the one peddling these

[@andarara-c1p]

Lira calling Ukraine government "The Kyiv regime" badly trying to portray like some Bond villain bs. LOL. He is so pathetic

[@joshuayung5158]

Its a (failed) attempt to be clever and turn the "Putin regime" label back on critical media sources, but it fails in context because a regime that turns over multiple times a decade with leaders that vehemently disagree with each other (as Ukraine's has) is a pretty piss poor "regime". Meanwhile, Putin has been in power nearly 30 years with the exception of Medvedev who was totally not being puppeted by Putin the whole time, no siree.

[@thepolishnz]

and calling it "the Ukraine'. russian terminology saying ukraine is just a territory of russia not a separate country

[@hydra70]

He's very particular about calling it "The *Kiev* Regime" because he doesn't recognize Ukrainian as a legitimate language and nationality.

[@Kez_DXX]

No, that's what the cool kids say. They don't refer to nations by their proper name but like "[capital city] Regime" or "[current head of state] Regime". So for example, "Russia" should be called the "Putin Regime" because that's what's "hip" at the moment.

[@nastynate4916]

It’s like the verbal equivalent of annoyingly c*soring something in a tweet because you don’t like it

[@duckierwolf]

I love how laser pig is just chill in this entire thing.

[@rider4440]

I think the one thing about lazerpig that wasnt chilling was the hottles of wine he had out xD

[@helljumper5601]

I would imagine the alcohol helped him

[@averymicrowave1713]

He kinda went a bit mask off in the vid he made addressing the debate. I can't blame him though, Lira's a legitimately disgusting human being.

[@SirKittalot]

Seeing as it was Gonzo who ragequit at the end there, this means that by Gonzo's own rules, Lazerpig won the debate

[@Shieldv13]

And then a few months later he gets a visit from the SBU

[@stevenvanhoorick1907]

Incel in cell

[@widescreennavel]

nice!!

[@gamersoaisis3147]

The fact that he thought that the USs industrial millitary complex couldn't hold up to russias is wild. The US millitary complex can entrench themselves in 40 years straight of war and would still be able to build a stockpile whilst doing so lol.

[@Morally_Immoral2]

I will say not 40 years but still yeah it's insane

[@phoenixmarktwo]

​@@Morally_Immoral2 Honestly, as an American, I feel quite safe behind our military with how much high-tech shit they've got with well-trained troops. My only wish is that we'd stop spending so much on the military that the military doesn't actually need and spend it on education and healthcare.

[@Morally_Immoral2]

@@phoenixmarktwo you do realize that it's not how much is being spent it how it's being spent and the military spending is only 3.5 percent of GDP

[@phoenixmarktwo]

@@Morally_Immoral2 That is mostly what I meant. A lot of funds going to the military are fundamentally wasted on things that really shouldn't be a thing. I wouldn't be complaining if that extra funding was, say, going towards improving veteran mental healthcare, better living conditions for soldiers, etc. If that was the case then I'd just be advocating for the education and healthcare budgets be taken from other sources that also don't need it. I am fully aware that there is poor funding in other places, it's just that the military is what is being discussed at the moment.

[@Morally_Immoral2]

@@phoenixmarktwo I have a funny idea you and I have a different idea of fundamentally unnecessary so please clarify what you consider unnecessary

[@petrikallio2485]

its 10th of august and bakhmut "fell" in late may, but I dont see russian forces nowhere near dnipro city. I see AFU is pushing both flanks in bakhmut

[@spooky6408]

Lazerpig is so powerful I can't even watch the whole video cuz I can feel my IQ decrease every second Gonzalo speaks, he actually talk to him for a more than an hour.

[@ladywaffle2210]

It's the alcohol; it provides a buffer zone. In order to get at LP's braincells, Gonzalo must first pass through the alcoholic membrane.

[@stephenschiavone8592]

Wow Gonzalo is a prime example of projection.

[@loscause7927]

That entire interview was hilarious and infuriating at the same time.

[@dereklinscott8488]

Gonzo's antics are a playbook for wingers of all kinds. The instant they cant spew falsehoods or railroad the convo they just start yelling. The goal isn't truth or insight - the goal is simply to maintain a belief system. Its impressive though that the fringe-right has managed to be even more cringe than that far-left lately. If schools could improve just one subject area - rhetoric. People are simply too susceptible to logical fallacies and rhetorical tactics. IIRC the Finns pay special attention to this in their schools - the goal being BS resistant citizens. Its more important than STEM at this point.

[@highjumpstudios2384]

He makes us look bad.

[@LiLMacK242]

That “Jeep” took down a t-90

[@Peabush]

Aged like fine wine!

[@spergicide97]

Hey, now that he's dead, are you guys gonna have a memorial stream or something for him? 😅

[@TieisAwsom]

"Laughing hysterically would be me going *the scariest laugh you have ever heard* "

[@christopheralejandromezapa8934]

LMAO. Adiós Gonzalo, hasta nunca.

[@rzu1474]

I was thinking of putting this on on my drive to work. Glad I didn't. I'd have crashed of laughter

[@0122358]

i just wanna see lazerpig, perun, kraut, and animarchy do a round table about history...i dont even care what kinda of history.

[@essexclass8168]

Would be funny to see them do one on something they all know next to nothing about. Like the history of Filipino Saint Cookies or Chinese Medical Compendiums.

[@demondoggy1825]

@essexclass8168 king Phillips war with Atun shei hosting it. Things would get very very weird

[@essexclass8168]

@@demondoggy1825 dressed, larping and moderating as Johnny Reb trying to portray Philip as a Confederate precursor. Maybe have Brandon F. Co-host to even things out I don't know.

[@omarmatouq3855]

1 rule however, DONT BRING BAD EMPANADA

[@TheLastSterling1304]

Lazerpig can finally have that sexy hot tub sausage party.

[@viewofascene]

Regarding the egg-ademic mentioned at 27:45, both sides also forgot that there are cullings because of bird flu currently sweeping across the uk

[@StefanoCanonica]

I don’t know why, I don’t know this Gonzalo guy at all, 1st time I see him, and yet he gives me conspiracy theorist vibes all over

[@charlesentrekin140]

Funny he gives me paid spokesman vibes.

[@Hamburger2005]

@@charlesentrekin140 Russia Today paid the guy lol

[@khanhnguyen-tt3ff]

It the cap, it already off when he wear cap inside a room during a debate. It just show you hiding something.

[@warbrain1053]

@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff and the room do be dark too

[@charlesentrekin140]

@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff I just wonder how long he would last with someone who is used to debating. Someone like say a Ben Shapiro.

[@mikrophone8499]

Lira is arrested in Ukraine for spying for Russia. Haha this is too funny.

[@jaakko14]

That map was something. Russian assault to Kiev "tactical Russian feint"

[@Philomatt13]

I would love to watch this and laugh but this gives me so much anxiety. Think this legitimately triggers old memories of a family member who acts just like Gonzalo.

[@BuckarooBoya]

Well if it helps any, Gonzalo is dead

[@shearprzeslica87]

Gonzalo went full "loaded question" fallacy...thinking it's some sort of gotcha when it just makes him look too stupid to actually form a logical argument

[@Zarastro54]

Literally every question he asked was loaded like a Spanish galleon and even the premise of all of them as a binary “yes or no” answer is entirely fallacious. Really any reasonable person would have realized that this was a discussion devoid of good faith after his circular answers to the definition of good and evil. LP seemed to realize this also and essentially trolled him for the rest of the discussion.

[@sietuuba]

Holy shit that vatnik is a piece of work.

[@englishfury1544]

Oh hell yeah, i caught the first hour or so, But gonzalo was insufferable

[@oehlererik]

This was an shamefull performance of Lazerpig. He made good arguments, was coherent, patient, and even polite throughout most of it. I dare even to doubt he was drunk at all!

[@esmenhamaire6398]

Oh, thank you for the giggle!

[@ryerial7723]

Only those who have watched his stuff may get this joke but goddamn it’s a good one lmaoo

[@Jse0607]

As a functioning individual I assume people are lying to me if they aren’t drunk. Shameful behavior from Lazerpig

[@worldspam5682]

it's still possible to play coke card here)

[@romxxii]

@@worldspam5682 coherent and patient are mutually exclusive with "coked out to the tits"

[@merylsmith8297]

How Gonzalo thinks a debate works: - one of the participants acts as the moderator - that participant gets to bring a powerpoint presentation and click through it slide by slide - all questions are yes/no answers because nuance and context dont exist - the other participant is not allowed to bring their own topics to the table - the moderator participant gets to dictate to the other participant what their own view on every topic is - the moderator participant can interrupt whenever they feel like it - attempting to answer in more than a "yes" or "no" is the same as not answering a question - being interrupted and cutoff by the moderator also means you didnt answer the question, and thats your own fault

[@samfire3067]

Yes. That what people think politics IS about, and not "both of us bring something to The tablet and we try to make both of your points into something we can agree".

[@cyborghobo9717]

Gonzalo tried to use a logical fallacy known as Double bind .

[@HauntedXXXPancake]

It would have worked perfectly, if the other side had been tied down and prepped for electric shocks, but I guess that could be said about many of GL's plans.

[@AverageLadd]

@@samfire3067 What you have said is not what politics is. A debate is not meant to make points malleable and create something both sides can agree on. Some debates are meant to enlighten listeners, others are meant to convince the listeners watching of a viewpoint. Making both points into something both parties can agree on is diplomacy, but not debate.

[@mnxs]

​@@AverageLaddIn my opinion, debates where there are no common ground that participants occasionally agree on are the ones that usually develop into a toxic, mud-slinging mess.

[@UlmanistLatvia]

Dude died on the 1st anniversary of this video's release date. Edit: He also died the way he wished for others: Painfully.

[@antitroller101]

Well that isn’t that rather ironic

[@darthnagus5457]

​@@antitroller101Prophetic

[@Wiskaksk2]

He’s dead?

[@estusprovais7520]

​@@Wiskaksk2yup. Died in prison if I'm not mistaken

[@VoltageTheWolf]

This brings me great joy

[@bonemaster6928]

As a wise man once said, “It’s hard to win an argument with a genius, it’s impossible to win an argument with an idiot”.

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

evidentally Lazerpig did the impossible because he won against the idiot, in Lira's own words "the first to rage quit loses"

[@guamsoncruz5107]

*Cocks gun* I believe in proving the impossible possible

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

How about: ''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@Tim van der Velden How about: ''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@anthonyrodriguez8788 How about: ''If you can't afford a war, don't have one''???🤔

[@ReverendReverb]

I’ve seen flat earth believers be more civil and respectful in a debate than Gonzalo Lira

[@CaptainWelshie]

I guess you have not watched FTFE's livestreams lol. Also Gonzalo Lira reminds me of a flat earther, show them crystal clear evidence and they still reject it calling people shills and other nastier crap.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

I'm pretty sure a lot of flat earthers are just trolling for the laughs and don't believe a word of it.

[@unstoppabletigertalukan6710]

Stolen

[@Two-Checks]

Him and his budget powerpoint slides.

[@Kirgoss]

​@@CaptainWelshie I have actually seen a lot of FTFE livestreams in the past. I have only seen a tiny bit of this Gonzalo Lira debate yet and I don't even want to contiue anymore. The cringe is just too hard. The flat earthers actually didn't manage to do that to me, as insane as they are. I am normally one of the few people on this planet who don't drink alcohol at all, but Lira actually made me want to be drunk after just a minute.

[@Rulusto]

"Bradley is an uparmored Jeep" Those "jeeps" took out a whole lot of soviet era tanks in Iraq, didn't they?

[@Shaun_Jones]

And a T-90M just the other day.

[@Rulusto]

@@Shaun_Jones I saw that clip, that was well fought by the bradleys.

[@DaYemenball]

I legit think an actual HUMVE could and would destroy or at least disable a T-90 easily.

[@robocop1279]

​@DaYemenball I mean a well placed tow missle would kill pretty much any soviet tank, especially if you can get like 3 shots on it

[@rangerwilltreaty9729]

last time I checked, jeeps didn't have 30mm autocanons or ATGMs.

[@Psykomancer]

GL - "I care so much about the ukranian people" LP - "Would you join me in singing the Ukranian anthem?" GL - "NEXT QUESTION!"

[@gordonkerry9320]

If that wasnt telling moment then I dont know what was.

[@LTV746]

Lazerpig for the win

[@trainman7004]

I read the GL as girls love for a moment

[@eXecu7or]

@@trainman7004 i read it as Grenade Launcher

[@Wulfen73]

He cares so much he was caught spying on them for Russia

[@Nmille98]

"This is slide four of how many?" "Ten." *Wine bottle noises*

[@LTV746]

Severely needed. This Lira person is delusional

[@skootmeister3994]

“Is it true that you live in your mother’s basement?” “I dunno, let me check. MOTHER?!” One of the best parts of this whole thing.

[@jb03hf]

Well it is true that GL is getting to live in a Ukrainian police cell.... WARDEN!

[@skootmeister3994]

@@jb03hf “Shut up in there.”

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

LP summed it up beautifully; GL had no idea what to do when his insults were met with comedy. He needed LP to get triggered and ragequit, but instead LP was just meeting his insults with jokes and critically, not leaving.

[@jb03hf]

@@skootmeister3994 I require more chee-TOOes!

[@nvelsen1975]

@@jb03hf And Russia sold Lira out and sealed his fate by instantly learning of and commenting on his arrest, thus confirming he was one of their assets.

[@Kushkitten420]

we need to start a gofundme for LazerPig so we can afford to get him enough alcohol to forget this ever happened. LMFAO

[@florenshoff421]

And food, dont forget food, because apparentely all of britain has none…?

[@Linki8uu]

I think his liver would have to fail 3 times over to fully forget this shitshow

[@cockatoo010]

He has a Patreon Go support him!

[@kranzonguam]

👍🏼🤣👍🏼🤣

[@benoitbvg2888]

Currently in talk with the French government so they release some of their strategic wine reserve for Le Cochon Lazer.

[@FictionHubZA]

"Define evil." " The opposite of good." "Define good." "It's the opposite of evil." How did he manage to say something and nothing at the same time?

[@Treblaine]

I'm having flashback to early EARLY days of the internet where you'd hear shit like this and it was just as affectingly stupid then. These fart-sniffing morons who think it's clever because it's impossible to refute not because it actually is of any use.

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

This guy ain't no Aristotle, yet he felt he could tackle a modern-day Diogenes.

[@FictionHubZA]

@@barleysixseventwo6665 To be fair nobody could take on Diogenes even back then. 😂

[@Schone23666]

It's like talking to a water wheel, no?

[@glowtail3744]

There 4 types of good to me and 4 types of bad Good: The actually good The not good good And average which is basically something that is good and bad And last I know its good but pls stop suggesting this idea Evil: Questionable Crazy Cartoonishly evil And last the anti hero which is basically the intentions are good but holy fuck the methods are just pure evil.

[@thatcanuck5670]

Fun drinking game: take a shot every time he says "zelensky regime"

[@ozzyjames87]

You'd be hospitalized or dead in 15 minutes flat.

[@Shaun_Jones]

I think that’s what Pig was doing.

[@thatcanuck5670]

@@Shaun_Jones nah that's just how he drinks

[@paladinstar]

I cant feel my LEGS

[@tbotalpha8133]

@@paladinstar That means it's working!

[@yourstepdad3433]

"Ukraine counts its victories in square miles" "Russia counts its victories in street names and house numbers: Genuinely made me laugh

[@ag7898]

The "half way between a winery and a garbage dump" got me going too.

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

The West, the Eu, and the NATO countries all imposed 'sanctions' so now live with the consequences!!! It is one thing to decide not to buy an item for yourself, but when you decide for millions of other people; it is another matter! I don't care who sells or who makes the items I want to buy. If I want it bad enough, I will buy it or find it somewhere else! The West doesn't want Peace. They want an expanded NATO and a weakened Russia. So live with your choices or get rid of the politicians that 'choose' for you!

[@DIREWOLFx75]

""Ukraine counts its victories in square miles" "Russia counts its victories in street names and house numbers: Genuinely made me laugh" And stupidly fake. Russia isn't primarily fighting to take ground. They even outright said so from the start AND anyone with the slightest hint of braincells or military reading behind them can tell that because it's bloody obvious. Emphasis on "bloody". Because Russian casualties so far, around 8 thousand KIA. Ukraine KIAs, probably far exceeding 250000 by now. The last time any real info leaked was in August from a LPR general, the estimate then was more than 200 thousand Ukraine KIA. At almost the same time, a Russian official stated that their troops had BURIED over 60 thousand Ukraine dead. And then there's the Ukraine organisation that tried to verify status of their troops in November. They had incomplete information and still ended up with 237 thousand unaccounted for. Ie, most likely dead. Of course, you're probably not going to accept that due to bias. So, lets instead ask something. Ukraine started the war with 700 thousand in uniform. 260 thousand regular troops, all trained and equipped to the best level Nato could manage. 100 thousand nassiz, according to their own online bragging in January 2022. 45 thousand non-nassiz territorial defense battalions. 45 thousand in paramilitary units. 250 thousand in "ready reserve" that just happened to be already active. And in December, Zaluzhny stated in interview that Ukraine had 700 thousand in uniform, of which 200 thousand were combat capable. In between those two points, Ukraine performed NINE mobilisations. The only one we know the size of being the last, at 100 thousand. They've also been pressganging several tens of thousands into service, but noone knows if it's 30 thousand or 100 thousand, just somewhere vaguely within that range. So, since it's not normal to mobilise larger amounts of people late in a conflict, this suggests that Ukraine has mobilised an absolute minimum of 500 thousand and far more likely closer to a million, or even more. So, where's that missing million troops now? Even if we lowball Ukraine losses to the limit, while including the DPR and LPR losses, Russia and allies has 50 thousand dead and injured. While Ukraine has 500 thousand. Killratio of 10 to 1 in Russian favor when we give every freebie and interpretation and estimation in Ukraine favor. If we count it more objectively, that killratio is somewhere in the 20-30 to 1 range. Very roughly, as it is difficult to get any reliable numbers, especially with how fervently Ukraine tries to hide their losses. Demilitarisation of Ukraine, ongoing. Very efficiently. Oh, and then there's what the argument in Poland revealed. They argued about the need for war cemetaries, because they didn't have enough room to bury the 1200 Poles that had died in Ukraine. That was back in November. How many Poles do you think are needed to be in Ukraine for them to take that many KIAs?

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@DIREWOLFx75 Slava ru.😎😎

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@DIREWOLFx75 Well said mate

[@ecyor0]

"the guy who rage quits is the guy who loses" Damn, we're going back to 2003 internet troll rules.

[@Parasiticism]

And Lira was the one to rage quit.

[@F14thunderhawk]

unfortunately, people who vomit shit at the rate that Gonzolo Lira vomit it at only can be debated with that kind of rule. because debate logic doesnt work with them and they dont do it in good faith.

[@Parasiticism]

@@F14thunderhawk It's not a debate at that point. Lira stated it was there to determine whether the other two are ignorant or evil. That's no ground to talk on. Lazerpig did the best thing he could've done which was trigger the shit out of him while remaining calm.

[@WaspCameraInSpringfield]

I can't fucking believe 2003 was 20 years ago.

[@Coid]

The man does seem to epitomize the whole "Russian Troll" persona.

[@alalvarez7301]

"Post Mortem" just got 10 times funnier

[@windowstaskmanager5349]

Let's be honest here, Garbanzo had it coming

[@lukeamato423]

LMAO 🤣

[@fehzorz]

42:26 "I was literally 3 blocks away from the presidential palace in Kyiv, so I can say unequivocally that [the idea there were attempts on Zelenskyy] is just bullshit" "He wasn't at the presidential palace though" "I don't need to have been there to have known" One of the fastest argument 180s I've ever seen.

[@marshaltito7232]

I have actually spent much times a few blocks away from the presidential palace in Kyiv. I don't give a flying fuck what this asshole says, dropping bombs on innocent people makes them them the bad guys every time.

[@Goerge-lu3ok]

@@marshaltito7232 the dude said in 26 of february that russian is going to take over ukraine and that the west encouraged ukraine to poke russia and then dumped them without giving any military help and that they will not give any help in the future. The same dude says now that the west is prolonging the suffering of ukranians by giving military help. He is such an emotional guy. He literally hates ukraine for some reason

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

You're a great writer of twisted fiction

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@Goerge-lu3ok How many Ukies have you killed by leading them to their deaths???

[@romakryvytsky8018]

@@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima, well. We both can play such game. How many Rus and Asia people you killed by leading them to their deaths?

[@c.rasmussen2706]

Me as German munching into my spareribs listening to that vatnik telling me that I am starving.

[@the_tactician9858]

Let me give you a BBQ sauce-drenched high five!

[@germanboy7673]

And also telling us that our industry is collapsing

[@truongchau56]

@@germanboy7673 I drove a Mercedes GLC (which is much better than ANY Russian made car) while listening to the stream, as GL telling that Germany is collapsing... 😂

[@johnsementa9844]

Germany: Making more sexy and expensive cars Gonzalo: GERMANY IS COLLAPSING

[@truongchau56]

@@johnsementa9844 Technically, in terms of Price vs. Quality, German cars are much more affordable than Russian cars, tbh... Russian cars nowadays are basically overpriced junk... You're more likely to survive in a crash when driving a defective Toyota than a UAZ Hunter...

[@BigBobster86]

1:07:45 "Die painfully". Lira got Uno reversed on.

[@goldholz]

Never mess with the pig

[@Randomstuffs261]

*Define "Evil"* -Evil is The opposite of Good *Define "good"* -Good is The opposite of Evil ... I don't want to live in this world anymore

[@Vulcano7965]

I would have ended the "debate" right there. That is no ground to debate, it's a bottomless pit.

[@Randomstuffs261]

@@Vulcano7965 The "what kind of tree would you be" makes it worth it though.

[@otakonjunkie]

Evil is a duck.

[@gdbalck]

@@otakonjunkie Quack quack mofo!

[@darnit1944]

This is called circular reasoning fallacy. Basically one of the most basic error to avoid in ANY and EVERY argument.

[@x0101234x]

-Stacks Deck in his favor -Sets the rules -Dictates the position of the opposition Still loses.

[@murkywateradminssions5219]

>gets invited to a debate >Realize the questions are more complicated than true or false >The debate is rigged >Moderator is the same guy that hosted the debate *>STILL WINS*

[@x0101234x]

@@murkywateradminssions5219 love to see it

[@Swagman12]

simply skill issue

[@murkywateradminssions5219]

@@Swagman12 Lira has a severe lack of skill in general lol

[@DrMario-]

Sounds like a Yugioh episode where Yugi still wins against impossible odds.

[@RichardHuffman]

Gonzalo Lira is quite a good example of unwarranted self-importance. This wasn't a debate, this was Lira trying to impress his chat.

[@dy031101]

This guy is so obviously kissing Russia's backside that he is deliberately twisting every protest against mismanagements in the West into either an inherent inferiority of the West against Russia or a punishment from Russia against the West. I am personally an Euroskeptic, and watching Gonzalo trying to pose himself as one just hurts my brain so much.

[@feastguy101]

He’s a con man. Kraut made an excellent video about him way back when.

[@petrusk842]

I wish the chat was visible for documentation purposes. Those who watched live said it was 3.5 hours of the most antisemitic, homophobic comments they've ever seen.

[@mr.pissshivers]

Gonzalo screams fully committed communist through and through

[@Registered_Simp]

@@petrusk842 I'll second that. The copium was so thick you could cut it

[@Crimsonking741]

“I’m a pig. Oink bitch” has got to be the most testosterone fueled badass response to that question imaginable

[@TheGallantDrake]

In the words of the Pig himself: he knows who he is, and Lira had nothing to say that could hurt him.

[@JosephKano]

Battle cry!

[@ropo788]

Strait facts

[@ukmayhemproductions]

yes just yes XD

[@ghostdog0424]

Fueled by the four elements: Fire, Water, Gay, and Armored Warfare

[@ned4556]

Gonzalo should be on russian state tv. He fits exactly with level of discussion, and quality of arguments. I find it marvelous that there are so brainwashed vatniks outside russia.

[@artnull13]

He’s paid well, the Ruzzian state media is well financed. In 2021 it was 1.5 billion USD in 2022 4.3 billion USD.

[@Luey_Luey]

he has indeed been on RT before

[@jgreen802]

They used one of his clips in a propaganda video early in the war. The hotel he was staying at in Kyiv threw him out because of it and later he received a visit from the SBU. If the "Zelensky regime" was as bad as he claims they would've deported him or worse, but they allowed him to stay in Ukraine and continue making his brain dead videos. I seriously doubt Russia would've been nearly as understanding if someone were to do the same thing there.

[@MrEd8846]

He was. Same with a few people he does talks with

[@kameronjones7139]

@@jgreen802 yup in Russia he would have been thrown out a window

[@stevethegeckotv]

This guy (not pig) is in my opinion, the type of person who would gaslight his family into believing his emotional abuse is good for them. This isn’t a debate. It’s a vatnik shouting over someone trying to have a discussion.

[@SynchronizorVideos]

Lazerpig had a lot of great moments in this dumpster fire of a “debate”, but I think my favorite is “Honey, I’m Scottish; level up those insults, PLEASE”. Dude’s a legend for hanging in as long as he did and still remaining coherent and entertaining despite the insane levels of both alcohol and bullshit.

[@13thmistral]

I think his actual greatest thing is seeing way before i did what the guys actual plan was on several occasions. Lazerpig did see when Gonzalo wanted him to ragequit and also saw the carrot that was the attempt at a discussion about the Bradley Fighting Vehicle for what it was: a distraction. I legit think that's just quite General Badass. Just rewatch, Lazerpig was not even joking, it were legit attempts of the guy wanting a victory.

[@exsappermadman25055]

Alcohol and bullshit is currency in Scotland...Dude is a legend!...

[@thebadshave503]

Declaring that whoever leaves the chat lost and then kicking the person humiliating you from chat is the most Putin move Lira could come up with.

[@TrinityCore60]

Maybe that’s why he was arrested.

[@fleckenfurz77]

​@@TrinityCore60 It is probably most likely because Ukraine has become an unjust state and has a fascist puppet government.

[@Nightdare]

@@TrinityCore60 And lost all his supporters (save a few zealots)

[@ShornDunlevy]

Sadly, Gonzalo Lira has now, by his own logic, 'left the chat' permanently. Whatever we might personally feel about how GL, we need to ensure a vigorous and open investigation into the circumstances of his death.

[@RaidDK]

He literally said he had lung cancer - and he was smoking 2 packs a day.

[@RG001100]

Lazerpig: "So..." Lira: "You don't wanna answer the question because you know I'm right!". Lazerpig: "are you going to let me talk?" Lira: "I won't interrupt you." Lazerpig: ... Lira: ... Lazerpig: ... Lira: ... Lazerpig: "So..." Lira: "You don't wanna answer the question because you know I'm right!"

[@SomeGuy-hb7kj]

Tldr of that shitshow of a "debate"

[@saulkid7232]

Timestamp?

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@saulkid7232 imagine simping for a washed up voice actor??🤣🤣

[@RG001100]

It’s not a direct transcript of the conversation.

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

​@@RG001100 Surprise surprise, it's censored!? 🐑🐑🐑🐑

[@Foreign0817]

That debate almost gave me an aneurysm. 💀

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

Almost? You got lucky.

[@lordulberthellblaze6509]

Can you even call it that. Stalin's show trials were probably more civil than Lira

[@Spacey_key]

I feel much, much dumber after watching 50 minutes of this

[@j0246]

Bruh, I was close to having mental breakdown due to how dense Lira is Jesus Christ Put this man in Jail for Treason if he does live in Ukraine

[@Foreign0817]

@@j0246 Some people are saying he's actually in Denmark. Would be funny if he was. 😅

[@kobeh6185]

"Answer the question, is the US and NATO and Ukraine winning the war against Russia??" LazerPig: "well ukraine has captured over 70% of the la-" "You live in your moms basement right" Its like talking to a crackhead

[@flamerider6486]

Lazerpig: I don't know, let me check. MOTHER!!!

[@vitaliitomas8121]

MOTHER, I REQUIRE ASSISTANCE!

[@ottersirotten4290]

Wished someone asked Lazerpig about his Vaxxination Status. Ive got the Impression that those who are completely on Board with the promoted Ukraine Narrative are the roughly the same who were completely on Board with the Covid Narrative. Youll have a hard Time finding any "I stand with Ukraine" Guy, who isnt vaxxed multiple Times, change my Mind.

[@kobeh6185]

@otter sir otten evidence is fairly clear (even with the dubious numerical effectiveness of the vaccines) that having the vaccine reduces your likelihood of getting covid despite exposure, reduces your symptoms and level of danger from covid if you have it (especially if you have other health complications), and reduces the rate of transmission. Now we can argue whether it's 90% or 45% effective, but it's clear that being vaccinated is fairly helpful, especially if you have something like a respiratory problem. That's not something that can be denied. What also can't be denied is that Russia is controlled by a man whose favorite philosopher is a fascist, and has a nasty habit of violating sovereignty of nations, human rights abuses, and quasi-fascistic behaviors like censorship and disarmament of civilians. Ukraine is obviously not a perfect country, the west clearly reaped what it sowed by helping along the ukrainian revolution and coup, but ultimately the people of Ukraine do not deserve this. They wanted freedom, and Russia does not want them to have it. They have been under Moscows thumb for over a century. Fuck Russia's sphere of influence, what did they do with it in all this time? No wonder a bunch of people don't want to be a part of it, it's not rocket surgery. You can call it like it is, a western sponsored coup in Ukraine, but how is that even at all surprising with how awful Ukrainian leadership pre 2014 was for the nation.

[@ottersirotten4290]

@@kobeh6185 Well thanks for completely supporting my Point :D A Shame that youre Wall of Text was auto deleted but it boiled down to "Im pro Vaxx and Im pro Ukraine" anyway, so exactly what I stated about you current thing supporters. PS: go get another Booster^^

[@ollanius_papyrus80]

“Chat is asking, you’re gay, right?” There are a laundry list of things you can make fun of lazerpig for, many being valid criticisms. Being gay is not one of them.

[@ecyor0]

Imagine coming in to debate Lazerpig and thinking "chat says you're gay" is a dunk, as if "loud, drunk, cussing, gay Scotsman" isn't his entire brand.

[@mrcmoes]

The akward silence after LP casualy responded with "yes" was filled with my laughter.

[@6Six6Six6Bruh]

@@ecyor0 seriously, we love our femboy pig

[@kaiserlowa]

@@ecyor0 I mean that's kinda awesome actually... How is that a bad thing?

[@TheGallantDrake]

@@kaiserlowaI think the implication here is that Lira is the kind of person who uses “gay” as an insult, and was completely unprepared for someone who uses it as a part of their persona.

[@aweawe1967]

That "Bradley's are just lightly armored jeeps" comment aged like fine milk.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Well at least his comments can still age.

[@CareFactor00]

@@AnimarchyHistorywe will never know what tree he’d be now.

[@thecoin5394]

​@@AnimarchyHistoryso, white boy, was the euromaidsn 214 in Ukrajne t a coup? 😅

[@mattmopar440]

@@CareFactor00 no its whichever one grows where he is buried :)

[@itsyaboiwan6416]

@@thecoin5394 a coup is a change of government initiated by a **armed forces**, so no

[@finalMadfox]

I like when LazerPig was done with the debate, Gonzalo had his friends join and basically cope again

[@ekulzonum]

Done in the sense that Gonzalo told LP to "die painfully" then kicked him from the call

[@pepsitruther67]

Wait really? ☠️ I stopped watching after he kicked our boy and started promoting his next livestream.

[@finalMadfox]

@@pepsitruther67 He called a guy named MOD and Mr New Atlantis, and just started coping

[@pepsitruther67]

@@finalMadfox I love how he just went back into his echo chamber after leaving for two hours to yell pathetic insults. It’s a fitting end to the story

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

What, like you're doing now?

[@ghostdog0424]

44:01 “Cannot replenish losses” *Laughs in the sheer instantly that is the American Military-Industrial Complex*

[@anadaere6861]

The moment america goes all out on the industry theyd pretty much drown ukraine in shells

[@vixshire3672]

@@anadaere6861 POV you asked America for a aid All I can do is deliver 120 tons of high grade explosives per week

[@bluestormpony]

Us military contractors: so you are saying if we produce all this stuff for Ukraine, you are gonna pay us a premium for it and if we max out our production capabilities you will buy ALL the stuff we produce the moment we produce it?" US: yes we are switching to war economy, so you also dont have to pay as much tax, we will also buy any and all stock you currently have as well as investments to expand your production capabilities and streamline procurement of raw materials to you and provide money to help bolster the materiral pipeline so you dont have to spend on that. Us Military contractors: idk we do have a lot of current orders alrea- US: we will out bid them and pay you to do ours first. Us military contractors: say no more,

[@Juliuscaesar0315]

​@@vixshire3672 per week? More like per minute!

[@TrinityCore60]

Hahaha…. The United States. The strongest superpower still around. Can’t replenish losses? Care to remind that guy how people claim the US (clearly alone, who else could it have been?) beat Germany? Exaggerated or not, that’s something the country is known for.

[@TheColombianSpartan]

"Yeah, i'm a pig, oink bitch" You just _cannot_ insult this man. He is immune

[@mosquito4581]

​Gonzalo ain't just a clown, or the Circus, he is the entire damn comedy industry

[@darnit1944]

And not even funny either. The only funny thing about him is probably the fact that i mention this joke

[@madensmith7014]

Don't insult the comedy industry

[@hourlardnsaver362]

Nah. Comedy is funny.

[@mosquito4581]

@@madensmith7014 touche

[@mosquito4581]

@@hourlardnsaver362 fair enough

[@quox3987]

This has gotten even funnier now that Lira got arrested.

[@cmb9173]

🦀🦀🦀

[@ladeao1552]

Here thinking the same thing. Something therapeutic about listening to this and thinking about him being in a cell right now.

[@CharlieNoodles]

@@ladeao1552I’ll bet he’s smoking even more now 😂

[@fleckenfurz77]

@quox3987 Not only arrested but also tortured. Funny what? You LP fanboys really are the biggest propaganda victims on this planet.

[@hurrdurrherpderp3283]

It's even better after he got arrested a second time

[@zigzagzipbag6561]

Lira: "Everyone will he looking at this broadcast and say 'Wow, this guy doesn't want to answer questions'." Everyone: "Wow, thank god Lazerpig isn't demeaning himself by taking those questions seriously"

[@cookiecraze1310]

He made a mass effect question tree, not proper prompters for a debate. The fact he thought that this would discredit Lazerpig is fucking comical.

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@cookiecraze1310 It did discredit the pig but you cannott win an argument with a fool....so...erm..go figure

[@cookiecraze1310]

@@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima he discredited someone by pointing and screaming at the top of his lungs "HE'S EVIL! HE WANTS CIVILIANS TO DIE AND IS A WARMONGER! I (a sex tourist who stayed in Ukraine to exploit it's political situation for money) AM THE ULTIMATE MORALE DECIDER AND SAY THAT EVIL IS NOT IMMEDIATELY ROLLING OVER TO AN INVADING FORCE!". He says that the only morale decision is to allow Russia to win and take over Ukraine (despite most Ukrainians saying they wanted to continue fighting once polled) because that means less people will die. He didn't bring up a single actual point and just asked him to either agree with his lies or be evil.

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@cookiecraze1310 oh look; 2 cheap comments for the price of 1

[@drnoahjuvalhararihackableanima]

@@cookiecraze1310 I didn't read past the 1st few lines of simping OK? bye...