Pure Evil Complete Monster ปีศาจร้ายตัวจริง อันนี้แหละร้ายกาจที่สุด อันตรายกว่าปีศาจจริงๆอีก.....
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*"ทำไม?"* *แล้วคนที่มันฆ่าไปบ่ะ ทำไม ทำไมมันถึงทำกับคนอื่นได้ โดยเฉพาะเด็กๆหลายคนในเรื่อง? คนที่เขาจะพยายามจะกลับตัวกลับใจจริง มันก็ยังไปปั่นหัวหลอกใช้ให้ทำชั่วต่ออีก. ต่อให้มีอดีต ภูมิหลังประวัติอย่างไร สุดท้ายมันก็คืออดีต อดีตก็คืออดีตครับ เรื่องที่ผ่านมาแล้ว ไม่สามารถแก้ไขได้ เอามาใช้เป็นเหตุผลในการทำร้ายคนอื่นที่เขาไม่รู้เรื่องหรือไม่เกี่ยวข้องไม่ได้หรอก ก็เหมือนกับฮิตเลอร์แหละที่เกลียดยิว จนเหมารวมทั้งเผ่าและฆ่าล้างยิวทุกคนทั้งเด็กทั้งผู้หญิงไม่สนว่าจะเป็นคนดีหรือเปล่า เพราะความเกลียดครอบงำไปหมดแล้ว "ขออย่ากวนให้ผมเสียเวลาครับ อยากจะพัก มีแต่คนมาถามอยู่ได้ เวลาว่างยิ่งไม่ค่อยจะมีอยู่ ขี้เกียจเขียน." ไอ้ตัวละครตัวนี้มันเป็น"Pure Evil Complete Monster"จริง ปีศาจร้ายในคราบมนุษย์ของจริง ยิ่งกว่าฮิตเลอร์อีก ตรงตามชื่อเรื่อง "ปีศาจร้าย Monster" จะไปสงสารมันทำไม "ไม่สงสารคนที่มันฆ่าหรอ" ไปสงสารไอ้พวกทรราช เผด็จการ พวกฆาตกรโรคจิตเลือดเย็นเนี่ยน่ะ เยี่ยม สังคังโลกมนุษย์เป็นห้าอะไรกันไปหมดแล้วเนี่ย ตรรกะบ้าๆ? คือมันbeyondต่อการกลับตัวกลับใจแล้วครับ สายเกินแก้ ประวัติในวัยเด็ก ไม่เท่ากับการกระทำทั้งหมดของมันในตอนโตที่ทำกับคนอื่นครับ คนแบบนี้ไม่เห็นใจหรอก เพราะมันทำไปเพื่อตัวเองล้วนๆ เห็นแก่ตัว จิตวิปลาสตรรกะแนวคิดวิบัติตัดสินชีวิตคนอื่นตามความชอบใจตัวเอง ก็เหมือนกับ"Imu Doflamingo Light Yagami Zamasu Byakuran"แหละ ถึงจะมีประวัติไม่ดี หรือ"มีอุดมการณ์ที่ดูดี" แต่เดิมทีมันก็เป็นคนมีฐานะดี หรือมีอำนาจมากมาก่อน ด้วยความที่มี"ความเป็นPsychopath"อยู่ด้วยแล้ว (ไร้ความเห็นอกเห็นใจผู้อื่น ไม่มีความรู้สึกผิดใดๆในสิ่งที่ก่อ รู้สึกเบื่อหงุดหงิดง่าย ชอบทำอะไรเหมือนกับการเล่นเกม ยกเว้นแต่ว่าเกมเกมนั้นมันคือการพรากเอาชีวิตผู้อื่นไปด้วย ฯลฯ) แถมยังนิสัยไม่ดีเลวร้ายมาตั้งแต่แรกแล้วด้วยเหมือนปีศาจมาเกิด สุดท้ายก็เป็นตัวละครPure Evil และใช้คำว่า"ความยุติธรรมความชอบธรรม"เป็นแค่ข้ออ้างในการแสวงหาอำนาจมากยิ่งขึ้นอย่างที่เห็น ฆ่าได้แม้กระทั่งผู้บริสุทธิ์เพียงแค่เพราะ"ต่อต้านตัวมันและแนวคิดหลักความยุติธรรมพวกแมงมัน" กลายเป็นพระเจ้าสะเอง ก่อนจะชอบตัวละครไหนหัดหันไปดูธาตุแท้นิสัยและการกระทำมันก่อนซะบ้าง การกระทำพูดดังกว่าคำพูด สำคัญกว่าคำพูดและความเชื่อ.* *"Johan Liebert," "Anna Liebert, "The Nameless Monster," "The Next Hitler," "The Devil," "Franz Heinau," "Michael Reichmann," "Erich Springer," "J"* (by the media). Type *"Nihilistic Serial Killer."* He is a *ruthless, emotionless, and psychopathic serial killer* whose life was saved by *"Kenzo Tenma"* as a child. He is also the *twin brother* of *"Anna Liebert,"* aka *"Nina Fortner."* Johan has stated that *his one true goal is to be "the last one alive when the world ends"-but upon rediscovering a children's book that appears to have played a pivotal role in his monstrous nature, he instead set his mind on committing the "perfect suicide",* i.e. *"dying without leaving behind any evidence of his existence"* (with the *possible exception* of Dr. Tenma and Anna's memories of him *"in order to destroy their faith in humanity").* *"What Makes Him Pure Evil?"* - *Backstory Past:* While he had a *tragic past* due to *"Bonaparta's actions,"* his sister Anna *suffered the same trauma* and *walked out a good person,* which *mitigates* it as an excuse, *while "Johan became more monstrous than Bonaparta,"* who had *good well-intentioned intentions* and *standards "even as a villain."* With alarming premeditation and calculation for his age, *he murdered his caretakers despite being homeless,* rewarding their kindness towards him and Anna *with cruelty.* This *occurred prior* to *most of his past traumas, proving that "he had already exhibited psychopathic tendencies as a child."* *He infamously caused the "511 Kinderheim massacre,"* once more as a child, *by insidiously manipulating* and *provoking the orphans and instructors into inciting chaos-which culminated in the orphanage burning down* and *Johan tossing an oil rag into its fires, ominously watching as dozens of other children die by either killing each other or burning alive.* When asked by *"Hartmann"* why he did this, *Johan states his goal of "causing the collapse of human civilization"* and *"to be the last man alive amidst a wasteland of death."* There is *no apparent motive* for this *beyond pure nihilism* and, possibly, *misanthropy.* Hartmann-a *former director of "511 Kinderheim"* and *no saint himself* as an abusive caretaker-*refutes Tenma's claims that Kinderheim made Johan a monster,* and *even admits that there was no way the orphanage could've created a "masterpiece" like Johan.* *He murdered his own foster parents, the "Lieberts,"* before *successfully prompting a traumatized Anna to shoot him herself with the intent to corrupt her.* Despite *Anna's life nearly being ruined that night* and *his alleged love for her,* Johan shows *no remorse* for this-said *"love"* appearing to stem merely from his notion that *they are two halves of the same entity,* that she is a *nameless monster* much like him *(as per the picture book that Johan had been shown),* rather than *brotherliness.* *He tortured "Helmut Wolf" by forcing him to watch his wife, children,* and *many friends* and *acquaintances all die one after the other, reducing him to a broken and paranoid wretch* just to *make him experience the same solitude* that Johan did-despite the fact that *Wolf saved him and his sister from a near-death experience.* Although Wolf was a *neo-Nazi,* what he was subjected to *was not* only *irrelevant* to that, *but cruel even for him.*
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*Present: He murders "Tenma's boss" and coworkers "Director Heinemann," "Dr. Oppenheim,"* and *"Dr. Boyer"* with *poisoned candy,* ostensibly as a *"favor"* to Tenma *for saving his life,* simply because Tenma had unwittingly told Johan that Heinemann would be better off dead-despite this declaration stemming from anger and resentment rather than genuine malice-thereby *incriminating Tenma for the murders due to his severe demotion prior to this.* Whether Johan's incrimination was deliberate is uncertain, *but not unlikely.* While Director Heinemann and his subordinates were *thoroughly repugnant for their corruption* and *disregard for the lives of their patients,* Johan did *not* kill them solely for this reason, *but to invalidate Tenma's belief that all lives are equal,* as Johan brings it up when Tenma tells him that killing is wrong, and tells Tenma that his career was only salvaged thanks to the murders. *He encourages "Rheinhard Dinger" and other serial killers to commit their murderous acts "with little to no effort,"* seemingly bearing a *corrupting influence* on a *nearly supernatural level.* *He organizes a successful money laundering business "only to abandon it,"* which in turn *"instigates another massacre."* *He hires serial killers from all around Germany,* including *"Adolf Junkers"* and his two partners, *to dispose of all of his former foster parents-"only to backstab the trio by disposing of them once they've outlived their utility."* Junkers initially survives, *but is later executed by Johan himself in cold blood right in front of Tenma,* just as Junkers was *on the path* to *redemption* and *recovery.* In doing so, *Johan also torments and possibly attempts to corrupt Tenma-a purely good character-by insinuating that the blood of Heinemann, Oppenheim, and Boyer is on his hands and that their deaths benefitted him due to his promotion to fill their place,* suggesting to Tenma that disposing of those in one's way is acceptable. *He habitually murders his own subordinates* (e.g. *"Horst Grossman"* later on) or *neglects their potential deaths* (e.g. *his surviving disciple, "Christof"); even his "most loyal henchman, Roberto,"* is *not exempt from this callousness* when he *dies* before an *indifferent Johan's eyes without having his end of the bargain fulfilled,* as he is ultimately *nothing* more to Johan than a *pawn.* *Johan's interactions with Tenma overall are attempts to invalidate his belief in "the equality of all life,"* hence the former's acknowledgement of the latter's promotion and persistent encouragement of shooting him in the head. *As seen in the climactic showdown, he goes to depraved lengths just to crush Tenma's idealism. He also tends to subject his victims to the worst possible loss and suffering rather than actually killing them himself, which often drives them to suicide anyhow.* This would explain his disinterest in killing Dr. Tenma. *He hires "Detective Messener" and "Michael Müller" to murder the "Fortners," Anna's (now Nina's) new family, upon luring her out of their domicile.* *He corrupts children with his worldviews and convinces them to "jump from rooftops as a game," which they're told to try again should they survive.* It's highly likely that *many of them either become critically wounded* or *do not survive.* *He initially plans to have "Schuwald" assassinated by his hitman "Roberto" so that "he may seize control of Germany's economy," manipulating murderers to target those close to Schuwald in order to get closer to him by taking their place and earning his trust,* in addition to *driving "Edmund Fahren" to suicide "for no apparent reason."* His reason for nearly subjugating the economy is *"to set his aforementioned apocalyptic initial plan in motion."* *When recovering alcoholic and detective "Richard Braun" is hired to investigate Fahren's suicide* and begins to draw connections between Johan and other unsolved murders, *Johan retaliates by meeting Richard in a bar and, veiled as research for a college thesis, confronting him on the latter's execution of a 17-year-old serial rapist and murderer, citing various sections from "the Convention on the Rights of the Child" to put the detective in the wrong-initially under a neutral, understanding façade. This façade gradually erodes as instead of simply luring him someplace he could kill him, "Johan does so while slowly and ruthlessly hammering away at Richard's psyche by planting seeds of guilt," asking Richard how he intends to look his daughter "Rosemary" in the eye the next day when her father is a murderer and a coward, and finally manipulating him into drinking again-which is followed by Richard either jumping/falling off the rooftop Johan has lured him to or being pushed off, killing him, despite Johan's knowledge that Richard was to see Rosemary the next day for the first time in years.* His wife and daughter grieve his death afterwards. This is done not to deliver justice for the otherwise morally upright Richard's past crime, *but simply for his interference with Johan's plans.* After murdering *"Blue Sophie"* (which is arguably well deserved), *Johan gives drug money to a prostitute near the crime scene for seemingly no other reason than "to further ruin her life by having her abuse more drugs"-although it is possibly also pragmatism,* i.e. *to dispel suspicion by rendering her an unreliable witness due to her addiction, if not simple hush money.* *He sets the highly occupied "Munich University Library" ablaze* while *instilling terror into Schuwald, killing a few* and *injuring many while burning myriads of books "simply because of his loss of interest in murdering Schuwald."* Since he refuses to abandon his plans for Schuwald without ruining the business tycoon's life in some way, *he spitefully traumatizes him and shows him scenes from Hell-both in the library and in Johan's very eyes.* Upon embarking to Prague in search of a 511 Kinderheim tape from his youth, *Johan murders and deceives people-including Reinhart Biermann, the repenting headmaster of said orphanage who, up until his death, was raising children in a manner opposite to that of his past experiments-while disguised as his sister Anna, deliberately gaslighting and potentially incriminating her.* In said disguise, *he frequents a local bar and acquaints himself with Detective Jan Suk, who is enamored with him due to his convincing appearance as Anna;* however, upon extracting the required information from Suk, *Johan poisons his boss and other (corrupt) policemen involved with the Czech Secret Police attempting to acquire and sell the tape that Johan seeks, which deflects blame and suspicion onto the innocent Suk due to the similar poisoning method utilized by said police.* *To exonerate Wolfgang Grimmer from false suspicion of murdering Biermann,* several of the orphans who were previously in the latter's custody band together to find the *"mysterious blonde lady" (Johan)* who was *present at the scene* and *presumed to be a witness-and one of the boys, Miloš, is successful.* What follows is *"one of Johan's most wanton and reasonless acts of cruelty"* when, still disguised as Anna, *he tells Miloš that he should find his lost mother at a nearby red-light district, but bombards his hopes with the notions that his mother abandoned him because he was never wanted* and that *all life is insignificant; "he then sends the boy through said district wherein he witnesses several forms of human depravity, including rape,"* which-coupled with *his inevitable failure to find his mother-"tortures the boy enough to drive him to the brink of suicide."* Although this is stopped through Tenma and Grimmer's narrow intervention, *"Miloš is still very visibly traumatized and implied to be corrupted by Johan"* when he squishes a moth unprovoked, *and his fate thereafter is unspecified.* *He burns down the "Red Rose Mansion," which contains a painting of his own mother, in his endeavor "to erase his past and (ultimately) himself."* *Upon reuniting with her at the remnants of the mansion, he nearly drives Anna to suicide,* who as well is barely stopped by Tenma. Subsequent to disposing of his henchman Horst Grossman, *he visits the remote village of Ruhenheim wherein he instigates a massacre "by playing on the doubts, fears, and innate greed associated with human nature," destroying its peace and killing many more in the process.* He *intends* to have *its entire population dead at its own hands.* *He rejects Anna's forgiveness of all of his actions during their final encounter, immediately before holding a nearby child at gunpoint just to coerce Tenma to shoot him* and *fulfill his goal of a "perfect suicide" (and once more to corrupt Tenma and invalidate his worldviews).* In the *ambiguous ending* of the story, *"Johan appears to escape the police hospital he was sent to following his second brain surgery,"* indicating that in the end, *"he receives no comeuppance for his long list of atrocities."* It is also possible that he is still in a comatose state, but regardless, his ultimate fate is unknown and it is likely that he evaded justice. Regardless of being foiled and exposed after the events of Monster, *he indirectly instigates the events of "Another Monster" by inspiring Hermann Führ to dispose of Molke and everyone else aware of his existence, now that his criminal record is publicized.*
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Overall, *he lives up to the manga/anime's name as a "Living Force of Evil"* (complete with *parallels/allusions to "the Antichrist/Devil"* as opposed to *"the Messiah"* that Tenma symbolizes) *"which brings out the absolute worst in people, spreads as much evil and suffering as possible,"* and *"champions the downfall of all human society and morality, showing no signs of any genuine caring towards Anna or anyone else beyond mere fixation"* (e.g. *"his refusal to kill Tenma out of a petty desire to destroy his optimism and negate his humanitarianism,"* and *"his intent to torture Anna instead of killing her").* For this reason, *neither Johan adopting Anna's memories of the Red Rose Mansion, nor his trauma from the day Anna was abducted for the experiment* (which she walked out a *good person),* nor *whatever The Nameless Monster may have imprinted on his mind upon reading it as a child can truly mitigate his emotionlessly antisocial behavior and copious atrocities-especially not what would have transpired if he hadn't rediscovered the aforementioned picture book.* Johan is perhaps among the *"most acclaimed-and often considered One of the Most Evil-Villains in manga and anime."* The former may be due in part to *his complexity and realism* (for the most part) as a villain *despite his lack of positive qualities,* and *his religious allegory;* the latter may partly be *because of the fact that, rather than only torturing and murdering people, "he drags them down to his level with relative ease, reducing them to nihilistic monsters (if not outright insanity) like himself."* Furthermore, *he does not appear to gain much from his actions as he shows few to no sadistic tendencies,* which *only highlights his malice* since *not even sadism may be an excuse.* Assuming he truly even *has the emotional capacity for hatred,* his misanthropy appears to be *his only drive* since it conflicts with his nihilistic outlook; *however, given that his demeanor, disturbingly, appears to be far more apathetic than antipathetic,* it can be argued that *everything he does on his way "to fulfilling his ultimate goal (including the goal itself)" is "purely for the sake of evil"-such acts being as natural and mundane to him as "breathing."* *His relationship with his mother is debatable, as it's unknown if he cares about her or not.* He is *currently* the *"only Naoki Urasawa character"* to be *approved as "Pure Evil,"* although *both versions of "Friend" (another Antichrist Devil)* from *"20th Century Boys," "Dr. Roosevelt"* from *"Pluto,"* and possibly Hermann Führ from Another Monster are *likely to count* as well. *"He is also the only Monster Pure Evil Villain."*
ผมว่าต่อให้มันมีภูมิหลังเศร้าอย่างไง สุดท้ายมันก็เอามาใช้เป็นข้ออ้างในการทำร้ายชีวิตคนอื่นไม่ได้อยู่ดีครับ แบบนี้แหละที่เรียกว่า Pure Evil Psychopath....
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@@Artoys_ *"ทำไม?"* *แล้วคนที่มันฆ่าไปบ่ะ ทำไม ทำไมมันถึงทำกับคนอื่นได้ โดยเฉพาะเด็กๆหลายคนในเรื่อง? คนที่เขาจะพยายามจะกลับตัวกลับใจจริง มันก็ยังไปปั่นหัวหลอกใช้ให้ทำชั่วต่ออีก. ต่อให้มีอดีต ภูมิหลังประวัติอย่างไร สุดท้ายมันก็คืออดีต อดีตก็คืออดีตครับ เรื่องที่ผ่านมาแล้ว ไม่สามารถแก้ไขได้ เอามาใช้เป็นเหตุผลในการทำร้ายคนอื่นที่เขาไม่รู้เรื่องหรือไม่เกี่ยวข้องไม่ได้หรอก ก็เหมือนกับฮิตเลอร์แหละที่เกลียดยิว จนเหมารวมทั้งเผ่าและฆ่าล้างยิวทุกคนทั้งเด็กทั้งผู้หญิงไม่สนว่าจะเป็นคนดีหรือเปล่า เพราะความเกลียดครอบงำไปหมดแล้ว "ขออย่ากวนให้ผมเสียเวลาครับ อยากจะพัก มีแต่คนมาถามอยู่ได้ เวลาว่างยิ่งไม่ค่อยจะมีอยู่ ขี้เกียจเขียน." ไอ้ตัวละครตัวนี้มันเป็น"Pure Evil Complete Monster"จริง ปีศาจร้ายในคราบมนุษย์ของจริง ยิ่งกว่าฮิตเลอร์อีก ตรงตามชื่อเรื่อง "ปีศาจร้าย Monster" จะไปสงสารมันทำไม "ไม่สงสารคนที่มันฆ่าหรอ" ไปสงสารไอ้พวกทรราช เผด็จการ พวกฆาตกรโรคจิตเลือดเย็นเนี่ยน่ะ เยี่ยม สังคังโลกมนุษย์เป็นห้าอะไรกันไปหมดแล้วเนี่ย ตรรกะบ้าๆ? คือมันbeyondต่อการกลับตัวกลับใจแล้วครับ สายเกินแก้ ประวัติในวัยเด็ก ไม่เท่ากับการกระทำทั้งหมดของมันในตอนโตที่ทำกับคนอื่นครับ คนแบบนี้ไม่เห็นใจหรอก เพราะมันทำไปเพื่อตัวเองล้วนๆ เห็นแก่ตัว จิตวิปลาสตรรกะแนวคิดวิบัติตัดสินชีวิตคนอื่นตามความชอบใจตัวเอง ก็เหมือนกับ"Imu Doflamingo Light Yagami Zamasu Byakuran"แหละ ถึงจะมีประวัติไม่ดี หรือ"มีอุดมการณ์ที่ดูดี" แต่เดิมทีมันก็เป็นคนมีฐานะดี หรือมีอำนาจมากมาก่อน ด้วยความที่มี"ความเป็นPsychopath"อยู่ด้วยแล้ว (ไร้ความเห็นอกเห็นใจผู้อื่น ไม่มีความรู้สึกผิดใดๆในสิ่งที่ก่อ รู้สึกเบื่อหงุดหงิดง่าย ชอบทำอะไรเหมือนกับการเล่นเกม ยกเว้นแต่ว่าเกมเกมนั้นมันคือการพรากเอาชีวิตผู้อื่นไปด้วย ฯลฯ) แถมยังนิสัยไม่ดีเลวร้ายมาตั้งแต่แรกแล้วด้วยเหมือนปีศาจมาเกิด สุดท้ายก็เป็นตัวละครPure Evil และใช้คำว่า"ความยุติธรรมความชอบธรรม"เป็นแค่ข้ออ้างในการแสวงหาอำนาจมากยิ่งขึ้นอย่างที่เห็น ฆ่าได้แม้กระทั่งผู้บริสุทธิ์เพียงแค่เพราะ"ต่อต้านตัวมันและแนวคิดหลักความยุติธรรมพวกแมงมัน" กลายเป็นพระเจ้าสะเอง ก่อนจะชอบตัวละครไหนหัดหันไปดูธาตุแท้นิสัยและการกระทำมันก่อนซะบ้าง การกระทำพูดดังกว่าคำพูด สำคัญกว่าคำพูดและความเชื่อ.* *"Johan Liebert," "Anna Liebert, "The Nameless Monster," "The Next Hitler," "The Devil," "Franz Heinau," "Michael Reichmann," "Erich Springer," "J"* (by the media). Type *"Nihilistic Serial Killer."* He is a *ruthless, emotionless, and psychopathic serial killer* whose life was saved by *"Kenzo Tenma"* as a child. He is also the *twin brother* of *"Anna Liebert,"* aka *"Nina Fortner."* Johan has stated that *his one true goal is to be "the last one alive when the world ends"-but upon rediscovering a children's book that appears to have played a pivotal role in his monstrous nature, he instead set his mind on committing the "perfect suicide",* i.e. *"dying without leaving behind any evidence of his existence"* (with the *possible exception* of Dr. Tenma and Anna's memories of him *"in order to destroy their faith in humanity").* *"What Makes Him Pure Evil?"* - *Backstory Past:* While he had a *tragic past* due to *"Bonaparta's actions,"* his sister Anna *suffered the same trauma* and *walked out a good person,* which *mitigates* it as an excuse, *while "Johan became more monstrous than Bonaparta,"* who had *good well-intentioned intentions* and *standards "even as a villain."* With alarming premeditation and calculation for his age, *he murdered his caretakers despite being homeless,* rewarding their kindness towards him and Anna *with cruelty.* This *occurred prior* to *most of his past traumas, proving that "he had already exhibited psychopathic tendencies as a child."* *He infamously caused the "511 Kinderheim massacre,"* once more as a child, *by insidiously manipulating* and *provoking the orphans and instructors into inciting chaos-which culminated in the orphanage burning down* and *Johan tossing an oil rag into its fires, ominously watching as dozens of other children die by either killing each other or burning alive.* When asked by *"Hartmann"* why he did this, *Johan states his goal of "causing the collapse of human civilization"* and *"to be the last man alive amidst a wasteland of death."* There is *no apparent motive* for this *beyond pure nihilism* and, possibly, *misanthropy.* Hartmann-a *former director of "511 Kinderheim"* and *no saint himself* as an abusive caretaker-*refutes Tenma's claims that Kinderheim made Johan a monster,* and *even admits that there was no way the orphanage could've created a "masterpiece" like Johan.* *He murdered his own foster parents, the "Lieberts,"* before *successfully prompting a traumatized Anna to shoot him herself with the intent to corrupt her.* Despite *Anna's life nearly being ruined that night* and *his alleged love for her,* Johan shows *no remorse* for this-said *"love"* appearing to stem merely from his notion that *they are two halves of the same entity,* that she is a *nameless monster* much like him *(as per the picture book that Johan had been shown),* rather than *brotherliness.* *He tortured "Helmut Wolf" by forcing him to watch his wife, children,* and *many friends* and *acquaintances all die one after the other, reducing him to a broken and paranoid wretch* just to *make him experience the same solitude* that Johan did-despite the fact that *Wolf saved him and his sister from a near-death experience.* Although Wolf was a *neo-Nazi,* what he was subjected to *was not* only *irrelevant* to that, *but cruel even for him.*
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@@Artoys_ *Present: He murders "Tenma's boss" and coworkers "Director Heinemann," "Dr. Oppenheim,"* and *"Dr. Boyer"* with *poisoned candy,* ostensibly as a *"favor"* to Tenma *for saving his life,* simply because Tenma had unwittingly told Johan that Heinemann would be better off dead-despite this declaration stemming from anger and resentment rather than genuine malice-thereby *incriminating Tenma for the murders due to his severe demotion prior to this.* Whether Johan's incrimination was deliberate is uncertain, *but not unlikely.* While Director Heinemann and his subordinates were *thoroughly repugnant for their corruption* and *disregard for the lives of their patients,* Johan did *not* kill them solely for this reason, *but to invalidate Tenma's belief that all lives are equal,* as Johan brings it up when Tenma tells him that killing is wrong, and tells Tenma that his career was only salvaged thanks to the murders. *He encourages "Rheinhard Dinger" and other serial killers to commit their murderous acts "with little to no effort,"* seemingly bearing a *corrupting influence* on a *nearly supernatural level.* *He organizes a successful money laundering business "only to abandon it,"* which in turn *"instigates another massacre."* *He hires serial killers from all around Germany,* including *"Adolf Junkers"* and his two partners, *to dispose of all of his former foster parents-"only to backstab the trio by disposing of them once they've outlived their utility."* Junkers initially survives, *but is later executed by Johan himself in cold blood right in front of Tenma,* just as Junkers was *on the path* to *redemption* and *recovery.* In doing so, *Johan also torments and possibly attempts to corrupt Tenma-a purely good character-by insinuating that the blood of Heinemann, Oppenheim, and Boyer is on his hands and that their deaths benefitted him due to his promotion to fill their place,* suggesting to Tenma that disposing of those in one's way is acceptable. *He habitually murders his own subordinates* (e.g. *"Horst Grossman"* later on) or *neglects their potential deaths* (e.g. *his surviving disciple, "Christof"); even his "most loyal henchman, Roberto,"* is *not exempt from this callousness* when he *dies* before an *indifferent Johan's eyes without having his end of the bargain fulfilled,* as he is ultimately *nothing* more to Johan than a *pawn.* *Johan's interactions with Tenma overall are attempts to invalidate his belief in "the equality of all life,"* hence the former's acknowledgement of the latter's promotion and persistent encouragement of shooting him in the head. *As seen in the climactic showdown, he goes to depraved lengths just to crush Tenma's idealism. He also tends to subject his victims to the worst possible loss and suffering rather than actually killing them himself, which often drives them to suicide anyhow.* This would explain his disinterest in killing Dr. Tenma. *He hires "Detective Messener" and "Michael Müller" to murder the "Fortners," Anna's (now Nina's) new family, upon luring her out of their domicile.* *He corrupts children with his worldviews and convinces them to "jump from rooftops as a game," which they're told to try again should they survive.* It's highly likely that *many of them either become critically wounded* or *do not survive.* *He initially plans to have "Schuwald" assassinated by his hitman "Roberto" so that "he may seize control of Germany's economy," manipulating murderers to target those close to Schuwald in order to get closer to him by taking their place and earning his trust,* in addition to *driving "Edmund Fahren" to suicide "for no apparent reason."* His reason for nearly subjugating the economy is *"to set his aforementioned apocalyptic initial plan in motion."* *When recovering alcoholic and detective "Richard Braun" is hired to investigate Fahren's suicide* and begins to draw connections between Johan and other unsolved murders, *Johan retaliates by meeting Richard in a bar and, veiled as research for a college thesis, confronting him on the latter's execution of a 17-year-old serial rapist and murderer, citing various sections from "the Convention on the Rights of the Child" to put the detective in the wrong-initially under a neutral, understanding façade. This façade gradually erodes as instead of simply luring him someplace he could kill him, "Johan does so while slowly and ruthlessly hammering away at Richard's psyche by planting seeds of guilt," asking Richard how he intends to look his daughter "Rosemary" in the eye the next day when her father is a murderer and a coward, and finally manipulating him into drinking again-which is followed by Richard either jumping/falling off the rooftop Johan has lured him to or being pushed off, killing him, despite Johan's knowledge that Richard was to see Rosemary the next day for the first time in years.* His wife and daughter grieve his death afterwards. This is done not to deliver justice for the otherwise morally upright Richard's past crime, *but simply for his interference with Johan's plans.* After murdering *"Blue Sophie"* (which is arguably well deserved), *Johan gives drug money to a prostitute near the crime scene for seemingly no other reason than "to further ruin her life by having her abuse more drugs"-although it is possibly also pragmatism,* i.e. *to dispel suspicion by rendering her an unreliable witness due to her addiction, if not simple hush money.* *He sets the highly occupied "Munich University Library" ablaze* while *instilling terror into Schuwald, killing a few* and *injuring many while burning myriads of books "simply because of his loss of interest in murdering Schuwald."* Since he refuses to abandon his plans for Schuwald without ruining the business tycoon's life in some way, *he spitefully traumatizes him and shows him scenes from Hell-both in the library and in Johan's very eyes.* Upon embarking to Prague in search of a 511 Kinderheim tape from his youth, *Johan murders and deceives people-including Reinhart Biermann, the repenting headmaster of said orphanage who, up until his death, was raising children in a manner opposite to that of his past experiments-while disguised as his sister Anna, deliberately gaslighting and potentially incriminating her.* In said disguise, *he frequents a local bar and acquaints himself with Detective Jan Suk, who is enamored with him due to his convincing appearance as Anna;* however, upon extracting the required information from Suk, *Johan poisons his boss and other (corrupt) policemen involved with the Czech Secret Police attempting to acquire and sell the tape that Johan seeks, which deflects blame and suspicion onto the innocent Suk due to the similar poisoning method utilized by said police.* *To exonerate Wolfgang Grimmer from false suspicion of murdering Biermann,* several of the orphans who were previously in the latter's custody band together to find the *"mysterious blonde lady" (Johan)* who was *present at the scene* and *presumed to be a witness-and one of the boys, Miloš, is successful.* What follows is *"one of Johan's most wanton and reasonless acts of cruelty"* when, still disguised as Anna, *he tells Miloš that he should find his lost mother at a nearby red-light district, but bombards his hopes with the notions that his mother abandoned him because he was never wanted* and that *all life is insignificant; "he then sends the boy through said district wherein he witnesses several forms of human depravity, including rape,"* which-coupled with *his inevitable failure to find his mother-"tortures the boy enough to drive him to the brink of suicide."* Although this is stopped through Tenma and Grimmer's narrow intervention, *"Miloš is still very visibly traumatized and implied to be corrupted by Johan"* when he squishes a moth unprovoked, *and his fate thereafter is unspecified.* *He burns down the "Red Rose Mansion," which contains a painting of his own mother, in his endeavor "to erase his past and (ultimately) himself."* *Upon reuniting with her at the remnants of the mansion, he nearly drives Anna to suicide,* who as well is barely stopped by Tenma. Subsequent to disposing of his henchman Horst Grossman, *he visits the remote village of Ruhenheim wherein he instigates a massacre "by playing on the doubts, fears, and innate greed associated with human nature," destroying its peace and killing many more in the process.* He *intends* to have *its entire population dead at its own hands.* *He rejects Anna's forgiveness of all of his actions during their final encounter, immediately before holding a nearby child at gunpoint just to coerce Tenma to shoot him* and *fulfill his goal of a "perfect suicide" (and once more to corrupt Tenma and invalidate his worldviews).* In the *ambiguous ending* of the story, *"Johan appears to escape the police hospital he was sent to following his second brain surgery,"* indicating that in the end, *"he receives no comeuppance for his long list of atrocities."* It is also possible that he is still in a comatose state, but regardless, his ultimate fate is unknown and it is likely that he evaded justice. Regardless of being foiled and exposed after the events of Monster, *he indirectly instigates the events of "Another Monster" by inspiring Hermann Führ to dispose of Molke and everyone else aware of his existence, now that his criminal record is publicized.*
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@@Artoys_ Overall, *he lives up to the manga/anime's name as a "Living Force of Evil"* (complete with *parallels/allusions to "the Antichrist/Devil"* as opposed to *"the Messiah"* that Tenma symbolizes) *"which brings out the absolute worst in people, spreads as much evil and suffering as possible,"* and *"champions the downfall of all human society and morality, showing no signs of any genuine caring towards Anna or anyone else beyond mere fixation"* (e.g. *"his refusal to kill Tenma out of a petty desire to destroy his optimism and negate his humanitarianism,"* and *"his intent to torture Anna instead of killing her").* For this reason, *neither Johan adopting Anna's memories of the Red Rose Mansion, nor his trauma from the day Anna was abducted for the experiment* (which she walked out a *good person),* nor *whatever The Nameless Monster may have imprinted on his mind upon reading it as a child can truly mitigate his emotionlessly antisocial behavior and copious atrocities-especially not what would have transpired if he hadn't rediscovered the aforementioned picture book.* Johan is perhaps among the *"most acclaimed-and often considered One of the Most Evil-Villains in manga and anime."* The former may be due in part to *his complexity and realism* (for the most part) as a villain *despite his lack of positive qualities,* and *his religious allegory;* the latter may partly be *because of the fact that, rather than only torturing and murdering people, "he drags them down to his level with relative ease, reducing them to nihilistic monsters (if not outright insanity) like himself."* Furthermore, *he does not appear to gain much from his actions as he shows few to no sadistic tendencies,* which *only highlights his malice* since *not even sadism may be an excuse.* Assuming he truly even *has the emotional capacity for hatred,* his misanthropy appears to be *his only drive* since it conflicts with his nihilistic outlook; *however, given that his demeanor, disturbingly, appears to be far more apathetic than antipathetic,* it can be argued that *everything he does on his way "to fulfilling his ultimate goal (including the goal itself)" is "purely for the sake of evil"-such acts being as natural and mundane to him as "breathing."* *His relationship with his mother is debatable, as it's unknown if he cares about her or not.* He is *currently* the *"only Naoki Urasawa character"* to be *approved as "Pure Evil,"* although *both versions of "Friend" (another Antichrist Devil)* from *"20th Century Boys," "Dr. Roosevelt"* from *"Pluto,"* and possibly Hermann Führ from Another Monster are *likely to count* as well. *"He is also the only Monster Pure Evil Villain."*
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