Destiny 2: Optimal Raid and Dungeon DPS

[@FPJ08]

This is the clearest and most comprehensive guides out there for d2. Just the right enough of visual aid through the editing and just clear info all the time. Once again, a masterclass in making guides. Hats off to you

[@TheAegisRelic]

Thanks for your kind words :)

[@jashjesus6929]

Maybe eventually lfg groups will see their first 1 phase indtead of using thunderlord

[@greenlukesky4615]

@@TheAegisRelicvideos like these are unbelievably helpful for overcoming and seeing through what’s popular. The amount of linears or thunderlords seen outside of my particular raid team is frustrating and your videos make riding the top of damage and sometimes overcoming their loss significantly easier

[@xdWizzy]

dude i watched all parts so far and my damage has improved so well, my friend uses arbalest and hothead with cc and demo (hes mainly a wellock), while i was using just witherhoard and a hothead, your tips have improved my dps so much and with the weapon rotation for nezzy i used broodweaver warlock with necro grips, explosive light and demo hothead and witherhoard, i used surges, reserves etc etc. i out damaged my whole team with 5.2m damage bro i love it

[@TheAegisRelic]

Awesome!

[@yaboigenghisk4813]

Never clicked a notification so fast

[@Gamingoofies]

I bet you smell bad

[@Lumis202]

Meat marauder

[@rpotts]

God damn, editing this must've taken forever. Thank you for taking the countless hours needed to make this video as good as it is. Having example clips of everything you're talking about, plus thumbnails for weapons, mods, supers, and other editing things makes this so digestible even given how long and dense it is.

[@yaamyi]

It's very interesting to see how you do bosses in speedruns and you explain it very clearly

[@kaikyrastelli7947]

Its hard to find videos with this much useful information after so many years in this game. As a veteran, I can say that this video is a must for everyone. Keep up with the great work, god bless.

[@TheAegisRelic]

CLARIFICATIONS / CORRECTIONS: - For Kell Echo, there are no nearby enemies to proc RDMs off if you're Gjally doing damage from teleport, so use Sixth if you want to swap off SES instead. - Sunbracers and Dimensional no longer work on Riven effectively post-projectile bounce change; Surrounded Apex Predator under her chin is used instead. - The GotD bosses have less aggressive movement as a result of breaking their shields quickly, not because of Deadfall.

[@Ley371.]

I find it crazy that I still check in on this. I know the meta has shifted and combine this with the spreadsheet but still it’s wild.

[@xxdarkslayerlord1922]

Bro good luck trying to convince my casual player clan or lfg randoms to do these strategies. 98% of them don't even know Verity's Brow exists.... 😂

[@cantanuh]

A whole hour guide is actually so crazy keep up the good work

[@jawshoeadan]

Well done! I was thinking it might be interesting to do a guide for solo-specific damage rotations, stuff like: “only x subclass can weaken which limits them from using y” and putting all factors together

[@TheAegisRelic]

This has been suggested and it's on my mind :)

[@thepixarl4mp]

I really just sat through a 55 minute video about optimisation that is unlikely i'll ever use, with some exceptions (woooo into the light) in one sitting But in all seriousness, this is a pretty good compendium on optimal damage which i can easily link to newer players. Thanks for putting in the time and effort

[@TheAegisRelic]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@Vaultyboi22]

Bro you've helped skyrocket my damage so hard. I ran the star eaters/RDMs loadout with apex and got 5.5 mil in 2 damage phases with rhulk, and we didnt have gjally. Shit blew my mind. Did like half the guy's health alone in 2 phases with no gjally nor damage buff like radiant. I can only imagine how easy a one phase rhulk is if everyone was effecient

[@TheAegisRelic]

That sounds awesome haha

[@bung_us7207]

12:03 THE DODGE SYYYNC edit: literally falling asleep to this man’s voice

[@diijjon]

Aegis, you're going to be responsible for getting me to Paragon. Brand new sub for production and presentation, this upload is beautiful.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Best of luck!

[@trashcans911]

In all my years playing this game I've never had a vid I want every new light to see more than this.

[@rogerorchestry]

These videos are gamechangers, thanks for doing these! I hope everyone watches

[@GMurph2336]

Fuck yes. Been waiting for this one! Edit: I would’ve liked to see this from a non speed runner perspective but still done optimally.

[@zGeRiz]

for dsc first and second encounter i can recommend parasite. its a oneshot with x20, and two shot without. on atraks it also does a lot of damage.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah Parasite is great for Atraks in LFGs

[@rgentum]

I hope this guide stays relevant for awhile! All it takes is a new dps Mets next season. I’ll be sure to give this a full watch later to see if there’s anything I don’t know

[@simplyrohith2163]

Absolutely amazing. Thanks so much. I left the game after Lightfall campaign returned a week before. This is very helpful to know optimal strategies

[@Sleeper_6875]

Another video that makes endgame look fun and accessible, I’m gonna find a sherpa for Vow when I can and give that a go

[@patiolunch]

that morgeth parasite trickshot strat is just so cool what a fun clever strat

[@TheAegisRelic]

Funnily enough it came from a Templar strat which still hasn't seen the light of day in a run

[@fayithuwu]

thunderlord enjoyers in shambles rn

[@Zarrakon]

We eating good

[@ethanjolleyy]

You should do a video on speed run strategies for every encounter. (Excluding the ridiculous out of the map stuff)

[@TheAegisRelic]

It's in the works

[@GrenadeMK3]

I've been waiting for this. And jeez, that is a long one. Well done for hard work.

[@makeshift27015]

Well, considering I just today found your previous video and was starting to put together damage rotation builds for certain bosses... HELL YEAH

[@woopinnn1686]

Don’t even play the game anymore but props this series has been excellent

[@fall3718]

Aegis is a real one for making these for the community. Respect: 100

[@realace8699]

The amount of work you put into this Video is remarkable.

[@tobysealz3574]

I don't even have friends to do raids anymore they all left the game but I still somehow sit through the whole hour watching this

[@matthewreed5988]

Have you ever tried HHSN with contraverse hold for verity's. I don't know if it is enough damage as I can't really test it but it could be useful in encounters with more warlocks and limited ads. Charge, release, quickly throw a magnetic grenade, shoot rocket (demolitionist), reload (or not if 2 in magazine), shoot another rocket, Charge; is an ok rotation. You may not fire a second rocket in favour of a swap combo. Applies to scatter grenades obviously as well but they might not do as much. Also leaves room for a Nova bomb and a budget debug option with echo of undermining. Great guide btw. I'll take a look at this when I need to know what is the best to do.

[@TheAegisRelic]

HHSN is really bad now unfortunately

[@SentientMattress531]

what’s hhsn?

[@matthewreed5988]

@@SentientMattress531 Hand Held SuperNova. A sort of outdated name for a Choas Accelerant magnetic grenade.

[@NebulosoPrime]

One small thing that i discovered while farming nez, if you have needlestorm and shoot it right before nez debuffs u, cancelling the animation but not the needles that will hit him like usual, u will have ur super again and can use it right after it or whenever u need, so yeah u can throw two supers or even infinite as u just need to predict the slam attack that debufs

[@TheAegisRelic]

Pretty interesting!

[@gerardaslisauskas1217]

Wow, so much hard work put here, for sure going to use some of these tips, thanks a lot!

[@Numley]

Hands down, this is the best destiny series out there. Thanks for putting in the effort.

[@wheresjaneD2]

what rolls would you use on wastelander M5/riiswalker and without remorse for pellet swapping?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Vorpal/Assault are all that matter really

[@jacksonhinkell]

first time watching this channel and i gotta say holy shit there’s still so much i gotta learn for this game and second thank you for making it clear and concise

[@DauntlessAria]

damn 55min just flew by, awesome vid as always Aegis!

[@johnnyboi7918]

aegis are you planning on doing a "day 1 damage" video or something like it? I think alot of us could use that information going into the reprised raid September 1st. there's a few dmg options I see here that aren't as applicable in a contest setting! thank you for these videos.

[@TheAegisRelic]

I think part 5 works as a good set of options for day 1-ready teams to use :P

[@9minty]

i feel like this is the destiny 2 video of all time

[@shikuro7229]

Time to require all of these in lfg’s expecting people to actually get them to work, wipe for damage when the boss is at 1% health on every boss, kicking the person with the least damage, and still never one phasing because it’s lfg and people can’t even left click properly. -The entire destiny community after this video……. SOMEHOW

[@koraysahin8778]

this is so valuable for the community as a whole.. not only for the pros but also for blueberries thanks to being so comprehensible❤️

[@LuisRodriguez-pf8tt]

Clear and comprehensive. Well worth the wait, thanks again!

[@AlexAlex-ir2jg]

really good work, was fun to watch! Never knew about waveframe GL strategy for riven's leg. And never killed daughters simultaneously. For Ecthar Deep's dungeon we can use (Conditional finality + Nessa obligation) shotguns as harmonic resonance work with them. Or Briar's contempt linear with Surrounded full buff/debuff and seasonal artefact mod, can shoot more than ~3x(67-100)k per shot.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Briar's is pretty good solo :)

[@Hambis]

I’ve been following this series since it started, I’m so grateful that KZbin recommended this to me! I have one question though. It’s only something small, but you mentioned for the harpy boss in GoS that it moves after projectiles and supers. Doing the raid a lot I’ve noticed that when I thundercrash or a few of us thundercrash at the same time, it really makes the boss go crazy. I wasn’t sure if maybe this was coincidence with other things being used at the same time or that thunder crash is also an inefficient super to use? Thank you!

[@TheAegisRelic]

Make sure you cast right as he breaks

[@Hambis]

@@TheAegisRelic perfect, I’ll try that next time! Thank you :)

[@prawnk1ng]

I wonder how this plays out after the double special nerf.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Shouldn't be affected at all

[@life-destiny1196]

The only known nerf is that they want to fix the extra heavy drops you get, which should make the ammo economy situation scarier if you don't one-phase, but rockets have plenty of total damage anyway sooooo

[@SwoleakhulTheBlind]

This whole series is Destiny DPS Gospel from now on. My clan mates will hear me preach about it.

[@IPipThePimp]

This is dope. Thanks for putting this together

[@regal-27]

I don't have any plans to play Destiny again but the info was so good I watched anyways.

[@ethanrapp6998]

Awesome video definitely gonna share it with the whole clan

[@crestfallen9637]

Thanks for your content, literally the best destiny content/info

[@life-destiny1196]

Hey, question about the Boss Damage spreadsheet, specifically the Sequencing tab. Why do most of the grenades thrown in the rotations there have a Time value greater than the damage source that comes after? e.g. Izi Slug Apex's threadling grenades all seem to happen 0.017s later than the Apex shots listed immediately after them. I would assume that the actions in a given DPS rotation would be listed in order of ascending time, since that's literally the order they would happen in (e.g. Xeno RDM's shots all happen exactly half a second apart other than when there's a dodge). Thanks as ever! I'm in a rush or I'd try to come up with additional pertinent questions LOL

[@life-destiny1196]

(this is also true of the fusion grenades in the Verity's Brow rotation, but not the ones in the Starfire rotation.)

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah it's to preserve input order while still keeping the damage over time graph correct-looking haha :P

[@life-destiny1196]

​@@TheAegisRelic ah, yeah. I would *personally* have been less confused if Time measured "time of input" and not "time the boss takes damage from the thing you just did," though I guess that introduces a level of error into the calculation side of things that is probably not desirable--still, given the answer to the question of "how long is the delay between firing a rocket and the boss taking damage from the rocket" is "depends on the velocity and the distance from the boss," that sort of also muddles things, right? If grenade (and presumably rocket) damage is measured at the time of impact and not at the time of input, can I ask how you standardize the delay between input and impact, if at all? Is it just an average based on your Templar test attempts? And considering the two grenades that made it onto the spreadsheet (Threadling and TOF Fusion), do you count up to, say, the TOF fusion's direct-impact on the boss? Or the final hit? I hope these are good questions LOL. I got a lot of mileage out of broodweaver rotation here (albeit I couldn't reproduce Thread of Generation's effectiveness, but the idea still worked okay), and Bns Apex dump blew the rest of my clan out of the water the one time I was able to do it on a random Vow run, so thanks for giving me ammo to tell the clan to put down Thunderlord :D

[@ToidiDestiny]

This video is such high quality. Not only is the content great, but the presentation is awesome too. I'm curious what editing software you utilize. Whatever it is, you're making great use of it :)

[@TheAegisRelic]

DaVinci Resolve :)

[@hue_lord_4208]

Atraks fr is the easiest raid boss to take down. From my experience with 3-manning dsc, all it takes is 2 cuirass titans and up to 3 max stack parasites to get Atraks down to final stand (with surges only, no raid mods). That info was very useful for farming the heritage and succession when we didn't want to lfg.

[@gibster9624]

I just need bungie to do 2 things. Allow Titans to bring in unique strats for speedrunning again and to have more exotics like Verity's, RDM, and RoF exist through all 3 classes. Not fun being a Titan main for DPS and we've seen basically every DPS strat get nerfed to oblivion. I think NBPs with shotties is in the ball park of allowing Titans to bring a unique element to DPS. Just need a little bit more love. Not even for just speedrunning strats but for some optimal DPS strats. Just want more variety than Curiass. It's just not nearly as engaging as some of the other strats are the other classes have and what Titans have had in the past. RIP Synthoceps/Glaive.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Agree!

[@Digital_Shadow-]

Great video! Just a question, but why is that rockets are the top option on Golgoroth, wouldn’t that conflict with the big center crit spot?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Rockets do full damage to his body even if they don't hit his crit :)

[@Digital_Shadow-]

@@TheAegisRelic oh wow I didn’t know that! Goodbye Taipan and hello Apex Predator

[@gills10975]

I think this is the best destiny 2 video i've ever seen

[@ethanjolleyy]

I love these videos, I'm not even a huge pve player but I still watch every second of these videos

[@nefstead]

Hey Aegis, would love to see an addendum to this for the Crota's End bosses! My team is trying to optimize for master and I value your analysis.

[@TheAegisRelic]

I might update it some time

[@higherwarrior7439]

I pray for more days that lfg will have the effort to watch informational masterpieces like this video here .

[@Ourplealchohol]

For vorgeth u mentioned bakris. Is it still used now that it doesnt stack with surges and is the same percentage? Also, thanks for covering dungeons too!

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah it's free x4 surges in a fast paced encounter, and the boss dies instantly anyways :)

[@Ourplealchohol]

@@TheAegisRelic Makes sense. Ty!

[@raidek4673]

It’s over actium-retrofit bros…

[@vampirelordx1]

I miss the days of whisper being a godly DPS option

[@GMurph2336]

Damn so the only raid boss you should use tether on is Sanctified Mind? My whole life as the tether hunter is in shambles.

[@latenightmp7978]

Another Banger good stuff, going to share this around.

[@Spilk214]

Wake up! The shield guy posted.

[@zullen.]

i was there for the editing process

[@taigamoth]

Do you have any advice on finding speedrun teams/videos on learning skips? I've always loved watching speedruns and would absolutely love to try them myself!

[@TheAegisRelic]

I would check out my Starting with Speedrunning video :)

[@Double0hTater]

As one of my recent LFG’s once said “the average destiny player is absolutely horrible at the game” and unfortunately i tend to agree, however, hopefully this video can give some of the non-thinkers a bit of a nudge towards “hey, maybe dont use tractor cannon if you’re just going to mag dump tractor cannon for damage”

[@deadclicks]

Been waiting for this one. Also fire thumbnail

[@rangonick2005]

This is a video about optimizing dps, I don't care or need to know if there are people going OOB to get to the next encounter faster.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Optimal DPS strategies are downstream from speedrunning, so there's a natural connection there. However, I do start every section by talking about how an average player could get the best damage results in general, not accounting for speedrunning factors.

[@JefferyTrypes]

Another fantastic video from the series

[@artes9222]

Hi, I am gonna be honest, I am a bit disappointed that you didn't provide the best dps option for each subclass per boss. For example, as a Warlock player I don't know what is the best to use here since your video only mentions hunters. This limits usefullness of this video for players who don't have all characters fully equipped or who just want to run an activity on different characters.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Check the rotations video :)

[@baarks]

Aegis raid and dungeon video is a huge W o7

[@coltoncrouch5740]

Im trying to wrap my head around all this info. Thank you for the time it took to make it all. Question though, did i miss somewhere where the weapon rolls thesr ideal damage rotations are mentioned? Like last video was on perfect damage, but maybe i missed it, i wasnt clear what rolls exactly were being used. If this was stated would someone please direct me to which video? Thanks!

[@TheAegisRelic]

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1is4sNUesy--7Zm6SCCWEP9PAXomxaSj5xlJGCsSj_qs/edit#gid=0

[@coltoncrouch5740]

@@TheAegisRelic i know you have other things to do than answer youtube comments lol. Thank you!! This spreadsheet is absolutley fantastic and i think im going back to previous videos with it like a study aid. You have put together a masterpiece in this series. If i may ask one more question to make sure im reading the sheet correctly.... optimum stat rolls would be listed from top to bottom, ie Acasias Dejection, its prefereable to have reconstruction frenzy, over reconstruction target lock. And if this is what you're talking about when you mentioned explaining spreadsheets in yiur next video i can wait till then too. Thank you for the response, the videos and especially the time.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yeah top to bottom is my preference

[@jos6902]

Great video! However, I’m curious, at 29:40 you say that 6 warlocks are required for the skip, but Hunters are also able to make it over using a shatterskate and swapping to blink midway, how come they are not used?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Way slower

[@snavzz]

every destiny player should be made to watch your videos

[@DMONEY721020]

I wish there was a solo player damage guide.

[@TheAegisRelic]

I'm considering it :)

[@LedFromGold]

5:13 WHO IS THE BEAST GETTING THE PLATE WITH THAT MASTERFUL WELL LINE ?!?!?!?!?!?!

[@pineapplemaster2114]

so much gold in this video, I subbed !

[@Passiond2]

I was wondering about the taking 2 daughters buffs at once how does that work?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Corolla has a video on it - you desync by cancelling barricade animation with Hammer of Sol, then you slam on one daughter, but the game thinks you haven't, so when you resync as your super ends, you slam on the other daughter, thus tricking the game into thinking you've slammed on both at the same time. Since you've obtained both auras at the same time, you die instantly.

[@kieranroberts4571]

Finally my opinion on optimal raid and dungeon damage has arrived. Now if only i could lear all of the skips required to be 100% optimal. And stop messing up my controller well skates 🤣

[@lazarskiy]

16:50 So debuffs do work on Atraks? I heard so many times that this is not true, someone even did damage showcase video to show that it only affects visual numbers and damage to the mob is calculated without debuffs. I don't even know who to believe D:

[@TheAegisRelic]

Only weakens, not stuff like Tether

[@lazarskiy]

@@TheAegisRelic oh so only 15% debuffs right? Tractor cannon isn’t an option either am I right? edit: nvm i found another your video explaining this

[@irunthepeg]

Your vids are so GOAT dude, keep it up!

[@TrKGOD]

Sorry for the dumb question, but i've wondering how tf players are able to maintain their heavy ammo after swapping heavys?

[@TheAegisRelic]

You don't, you lose a lot of it

[@slinkyjoanne2818]

This is amazing! Will you make a video for the next raid going over the same topic?

[@TheAegisRelic]

I'll try :D

[@Danxerz358]

Do armor mods like the Blessing/Curse in LW, Relay Defender in GoS, and Focused Light in RoN stack with Surges? Do mods that increase ability damage like Focused Darkness increase the weapon damage of a Warlock in their Well? (Similar to how the final boss of Spire took extra damage from a Warlock in their Well)

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yes and unsure but probably

[@DukeYeet]

I mainly do solo stuff, and survivability is the biggest thing for me. I really cant understand how people survive so well in even scaled content while trying to full focus on rotations to get the most out of a solo damage phase. For example on Ogre in grasp of avarice on normal. I cant focus on swapping on arc titan, while the scortch canon guy and his buddies shoot at me, also not mentioning the boss with his void orbs, but i can hid from those for the most part. Even then though the fallen throw their shock sticks and kill me. My gear isnt helping either if im running a feild prep hothead its just another thing to think about. Any tips?

[@TheAegisRelic]

For solo content in particular if you are focused on consistency using something like Sunbreaker instead of Striker might net you better results, plus the constant Radiant uptime is a nice plus when it comes to damage

[@pitmaster226]

49:01 does one-two punch affect Athrys’ in certain situations? I tried during FOTL last year and got no buff vs regular enemies

[@TheAegisRelic]

Yes in all situations lol

[@GrandmaDestiny]

Really good guide!

[@jigglyhamburgers9366]

55 minutes? Oh yeah, this one’s a banger

[@barthotymous]

Could someone explain how to go through Atheon portal w/o being teleported? (22:59, right POV)

[@TheAegisRelic]

When you go through the portal with the relic you get Teleport Destabilized

[@SasukeUchiha-vb2vy]

Wait no but Thunderlord:(

[@SRVZephyr]

23:25 Ritz jumpscare

[@mindwalker5893]

Is there a consensus on Ir Yut and Crota now that the raid has been out a few days?

[@SentientMattress531]

Ir Yut-Leviathan’s Breath or Sleeper Crota-Lament, Horseman, Acrius

[@mindwalker5893]

@@SentientMattress531 i know these are things that are working well, but im not sure if any of these are optimal kill strats. I can’t imagine that speed runners are going to bake Ir Yut with Levis or Sleeper. I feel like rockets may be the move for an Ir Yut quick bake, while Crota seems to have a melee or sword multiplier for damage so swords or melee builds may be the best as you’ve suggested.

[@TheAegisRelic]

Probably rockets for Ir Yut and Bequest or Goldtusk for Crota

[@mindwalker5893]

@@TheAegisRelic ty aegis

[@SentientMattress531]

@@mindwalker5893 I know, but you know how most groups are with rockets. I’m not saying they’re bad though, but if your group can consistently 1-phase Ir Yut with Leviathan’s Breath than i’d personally use it over rockets

[@yooanto9465]

I have new pc 13900k and Rtx 4090, issue is gameplay looks choppy like there is jiggly corners when moving my mouse left and right. you can see it clearly on trees and buildings. Anyone experience same problem please Help me?

[@grizzlyponcho]

I love this video series, but as a Titan main, it has me questioning my life choices lol

[@barthotymous]

I thought debuffs didn't actually affect true damage on atraks?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Only weakens do

[@jklew9486]

Amazing. You couldve made these there own video. Amazing

[@guitarlover42]

what is pistol he is using to upkeep verity's brow buff really easy and one tap the red bars?

[@TheAegisRelic]

Eriana's