Full Color Football - #5

[@sthier24]

Otis Taylor should be in the Hall!!

[@robertd.7060]

sthier24 . I can name about 10 AFL players that should be in & Winston of the Jets , this year is NOT one of those players ?

[@martinwhite3354]

Amen!!

[@rockvilleraven]

@@martinwhite3354 Rich “Tombstone” Jackson should be in Canton

[@tonyarceneaux286]

Mr. Kansas City in the AFL years.

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

Absolutely NO Question about it!!! Long Live the AFL!

[@mrmajikjr]

In 1960, the Minnesota owners stabbed Lamar Hunt in the back by backing out of the agreed deal to be an AFL franchise and taking a last minute offer from the NFL... in 1969, Hunt's Kansas City Chiefs got revenge.

[@willmack5909]

Karma, and to this day, the Minnesota Vikings have zero Super Bowl wins. Played in 4 of the first 11, zero of the last 44...

[@shimshonbendan8730]

The following season, the Vikings got sweet revenge on the Chiefs. Anyhow, it wouldn't have mattered whether the Vikings went with the AFL or NFL. Being a Minnesotan, we excel at losing. In fact, it is a way of life. At least I got to see Green Bay crush the Chiefs and wipe the smirk off Stram's face.

[@prestonlindbeck1197]

I live in Minnesota and the local sports talk radio discuss Super Bowl IV a lot. Especially like to mention how they were the better team. Hell no they weren’t.

[@jonathanlund6708]

@@shimshonbendan8730 out of curiosity how did the vikings get their revenge??

[@tonyarceneaux286]

I never knew that.

[@kenross1634]

Wow, I'm was born in 57 and this brought back a flood of memories watching these games with my dad, what great games, players and times, thanks, it really hit me

[@christianmendozatapia295]

Are you lying? You were very young........ yeah, I think you're lying. You're definitely lying.

[@kyleshiflet9952]

Gotta respect Al Davis for sticking to his guns and basically saying fuck you when the two leagues merged he was a rebel with a cause

[@bradjames891]

Perpetually a thorn in Rozelle's side. The Raiduhs just have not been the same for the past 30 years however.

[@tcurr0309]

And don't think Rozelle and the NFL weren't stickin it to the raiders every chance they had

[@michelmendoza1769]

Or he was a greedy fuck who ruined Marcus Allen’s career

[@KeithBartz]

True, but Al certainly was tortured by enough of his own demons. What a great subject for a psychology PhD thesis.

[@stevensicherman4101]

Had to watch again 8/24/22 RIP Len Dawson

[@baikitball]

I was so grateful for this whole documentary being on KZbin 5 years ago when I was bed-ridden recovering from a very painful knee replacement surgery. Really helped me get through that tough and frustrating time when I couldnt even sleep some nights because of the pain. Thanks!

[@timothyhockensmith8171]

You weren't alone!!!

[@tonyarceneaux286]

But this show was on the NFL Network.

[@jefferyroy2566]

@@tonyarceneaux286 True, but there is no AFL Network. There are numerous AFL videos on YT of certain seasons and games of week. Just watched a video about Cookie Gilchrist. Maybe YT needs an AFL channel?

[@stevensicherman4101]

Me too

[@dalefc9331]

Looks like you spent your bed ridden time putting this same boring comment on every episode!

[@Cefdfsacq]

The best sports documentary series ever. Everything. The basic history. The tone of it. The insights. Peter Coyote’s narration.....the growth of sports as pop culture with advent of color television...one point that they may have missed. The AFL s rep for better offense was debunked ......but there is a plausible argument that the AFL’s welcoming of so many African American players had it s greatest effect on the great defenses of the AFL..... the Bills....Chiefs....the Raiders....the Oilers...the Jets.... The NFL would sign the top college offensive skill position players who were African American.....it was the with other positions....linemen....defensive backs.....linebackers..... that the AFL really benefited from welcoming black players and made competitive inroads vs the NFL.....think back in the unlimited bump and run days....remember the AFL s big bump and run corners......could NFL receivers get off the line vs emit Thomas and willie brown? was there a DT as good as Buchanan in NFL? A safety like Ken Houston? An OLB like Bobby Bell? Was Butkus better than Willie Lanier? .......all I know is that when I watch the jets vs colts....and chiefs vs Vikings..,two things are apparent. The Jets were a better team than the Colts. The Chiefs were a lot better than the Vikings.

[@SantiagoTM1]

The sad part about this great football history, is that 99% of ALL current NFL players don't know the history of Pro Football. I love love the AFL. Knowing myself, had I known this history, I would've been an Oakland Raider, & Fuck Minnesota. Each drafted player should know the history of their respective Team that draft them, along with the History of the AFL, & what actually happened to Pro Football, & how it became what it is today. Now, I have such an appreciation for all those AFL pioneers. I love Al Davis too, along with Namath, & Mr. Lanier from KC who's a HOF.

[@graciemaemarie11jones16]

peter coyote? sounds like henry fonda. UGH!

[@jason3586]

Peter Coyote is an excellent narrator👍

[@tonyarceneaux286]

He's great on Law and Order.

[@adamdorgant9454]

True!!!!

[@bradjames891]

He and Keith David are the greatest. I prefer Coyote in a narrow margin.

[@donaldschmidt2990]

Peter Coyote's great narration lends a full rainbow spectrum to Full Color Football. This is the best football documentary ever done. CASE CLOSED. From the Outhouse to the Penthouse!! That was the story of America's renegade league that gained parity and supremacy over the staid NFL. Led by Lamar Hunt, Al Davis and a parade of other brilliant innovators, the American Football League stands as America's greatest sports success story. And the catalyst behind Professional Football becoming America's greatest sports enterprise.

[@graciemaemarie11jones16]

Sounds too much like henry fonda

[@Cards-In-The-Closet]

What a great series. Sadly, many of these players and coaches are gone now.

[@larryloveless2967]

Good video. i grew up in St. Louis a Cardinals football fan but enjoyed switching on NBC for the AFL games. The games were more wide open with passing. I can tell I was old enough to really start following football with the 1963 season. A favorite for me was the Chiefs versus Raiders rivalry. From St. Louis.

[@danielharford1864]

Watching this series was fantastic. Afl shows why America is great for football.

[@chrishall6419]

The footage on this series is outstanding...the interviews, clips, announcing...great job...

[@pghsquid]

All of the original AFL teams should wear the AFL Lamar Hunt patch on their uniforms!

[@LeighMet]

Does that include the dolphins and the Bengals

[@wesleykelvin4468]

i know im asking randomly but does anybody know a tool to log back into an instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my account password. I would love any tricks you can offer me!

[@brucearmani6653]

@Wesley Kelvin instablaster :)

[@dr3putt62]

@@LeighMet nope

[@LeighMet]

@@dr3putt62 why not

[@seveglider8406]

This is the greatest Sports Documentary ever!

[@adamdorgant9454]

True!!!!

[@4562deedee1]

Kansas City Chiefs still has a lot of heart...I have been hanging with them from 1968 and will to the end of my life. This history has shown me that my belief in this team all these years has been justified.

[@rossdickens5627]

Yes I'm only 56 not old enough to remember the early days of the AFL but after watching full color football All 6 episodes the AFL took it to the NFL and became it's equal and was football for all people color not a factor Davis wanted the AFL to stand alone and wanted to go up against the NFL in every championship I wish that would have happened

[@Primus54]

During my high school years of the late 60s, we only had one TV and my stepfather was an NFL diehard, so I was relegated to following the AFL by newspaper. I’ll never forget Super Bowl III when I listened to Namath guarantee a win, so I bet $1 on the Jets with him. He was absolutely confident I’d made a sucker bet… Best $1 I’ve ever won.

[@Strive1324L]

Great series. When i see the players standing for the anthem at the 50th anniversary, it makes me nostalgic seeing patriotism and men doing the right thing honoring our country. I miss that so much.

[@bulldogsbob]

The vats majority of players do you just want to focus one the media hoes.

[@johnmcauliffe7487]

Really enjoyed this series. Was a bit disappointed at how little was mentioned of the Houston Oilers though, the league champ the first 2 years of the AFL in '60 and '61.

[@hamburg1306]

The Chiefs benefitted from change in playoff format in final afl season which gave playoff births to 2nd place finishers in both divisions. 2nd place Chiefs beat Jets in Shea Stadium and then Raiders in final AFL championship game in Oakland.

[@fredthompson4568]

Its sickens me that KC lost to NE in OT yesterday. Same as i feel bad for NO in their over time.loss to the LA Rams. Wanted a SAINTS vs CHIEFS SB 53...Damn NE.

[@jswaggart01]

Great, great series, I can’t get enough of it.

[@adamdorgant9454]

Agreed!!!!

[@MrThegov1020]

this is the best documentary about football period end of story

[@adamdorgant9454]

True!!!!

[@edlawn5481]

Ironic that the former "Dallas Texans" won a Super Bowl before the Cowboys did.

[@redbaronreborn3372]

Cowboys have 5 SB trophies and have played in 8 SB and are the most valuable sports franchise in the world Forbes listed them #1 at 5.4billion💲 The chiefs playoff chokers who have not won 💩 since SB4.Hell they choked away 2018 AFC title to Patriots in OT in Kansas city.Not to mentioned the schottenheimer yrs of choking. Dallas will win another 5 SB's before KC wins their next one!!!!

[@bigpapasmurfz6252]

@@redbaronreborn3372 Im a Dallas fan, as well. But go easy there. Lamar Hunt was a great gentleman. The Chiefs have always been a fine organization because of him. They seemingly have a great future now with Mahomes at the helm. Maybe a Mahomes/Prescott Super Sunday is in the offing sometime soon. I hope.

[@redbaronreborn3372]

@@bigpapasmurfz6252 That would be great and get the Pats the hell out of the SB think the whole world is tired of NE. Lamar Hunt was a class act,the documentary Full color football was fantastic YT has it check it out.

[@bigpapasmurfz6252]

@@redbaronreborn3372 I saw Full Color Football when it debuted on Showtime in 2009. Best football documentary ever made, imho.

[@mikeforte7585]

@@redbaronreborn3372 if the refs ruled Otis Taylor out of bounds on 3rd and 14...the chiefs might have lost the final AFL title game...but I agree the chiefs are huge choke artists in the playoffs

[@jimgooch3704]

These are great. I would watch 2x as much -- especially as regards social evolution and the way that it impacted and was impacted by the AFL. Gridiron -- sometimes -- reflects the best of us: Individuals, celebrated for their uniqueness, collectively harnessed to a common goal. It also -- more often -- reflects the lesser angels of our nature: the power of the status quo, the blindness of the oligarchs, the basest motivations of greed and selfishness. Those who celebrate football for its conservatism and supposed meritocratic nature often overlook the fact that its arena is collective and redistributive. Those who lament the "good old days" before the game was politicized indulge in fantasy. It has been a pleasure to revisit history, especially with hope for the future: where we can again achieve together. My hope, however, is small.

[@Joaquin-227]

Best AFL/NFL series I've ever watched!

[@larryloveless2967]

When St. Louis really got behind their new Battlehawks team in the XFL prior to the COVID pandemic it reminded me of the AFL days. Despite approving a new stadium to be built on its riverfront owner Stan Kroenke snubbed his nose at it to built the temple he has in L.A. for the Rams. I hope the XFL returns some day. The AFL sure progressed well in the 1960s. I remember it being so great when the Jets beat the Colts, and then the Chiefs beat the Vikings. I guess the first AFL team I liked were the Chargers with Lance Alworth. He was amazing. You could not have a better rivalry than Chiefs versus Raiders.

[@good03boy]

The '69 Chiefs represented the America that probably few wanted it that time: Diverse and Well Intergrated. Glad that Hank Stram didn't care about race and cared about getting the best players. 👌

[@adamdorgant9454]

You’re right about that!!!

[@howl_with_the_wolves]

Injecting race politics into sports is what's ruining it today in 2023 along with the permanently divided nation itself USA does not have an optimistic future imo,in fact sussecion happened once before in 1860 it can and will happen again the only difference is in 1860 america had only about roughly 30 million ppl 21 in the north 9 million in the south today in 2023- 340 million ppl none of whom have anything in common.Race relations are at an all-time low( RAHOWA) an acronym for racial holy war is coming.soon.

[@bradjames891]

I agree with that. It's a shame that political extremists on both sides of the spectrum do not.

[@tcurr0309]

Missouri was a tough crowd to sell that team in too, I'm sure.

[@Drew914]

Love the history. Even though I'm a Steeler fan, I can appreciate how impactful the AFL had on Pro Football, Lamar Hunt was such a lowkey visonary. Ahey, the Steelers did agree to join the teams coming from the AFL to form the AFC.

[@ejrundt]

It is also ironic that the Steelers adopted parts of the AFL and mixed it with the hard-nosed NFL style to be the team of yhe 70s

[@stevensicherman4101]

Steelers used black college phenoms like KC to become dominant in the 70’s

[@effend446]

Of the 3 NFL teams that joined the AFL to form the AFC, I believe the Steelers benefitted from the switch the most. It was like a fresh start for them because prior to 1970, the Steelers never truly had the financial resources to build a championship roster, let alone a competitive team. That $3 million the Steelers received by switching, they wisely made the most of it because they also finally realized that the best way to build a championship team was through youth and mainly the draft. Before Chuck Noll became HC in 1969, the Steelers were notorious for trading away high draft picks for players who were in the twilight of their careers. It dawned on Dan Rooney (who just took over from his father) and especially Noll (who, btw got his coaching start in the AFL with the Chargers), not to resort to the quick fix. Needless to say that it's a formula that has withstood the test of time. Furthermore, considering that Pittsburgh is a small market, that meshed in well with the other AFL franchises who were in small markets like Buffalo, Kansas City, and San Diego. Whereas nearly all the big market clubs played in the NFL/NFC.

[@blakkjack21]

How about that cold handshake from Rozelle to Al Davis at 54:07, LOL. Gotta love that battle. This documentary taught me the backstory to that beef as I was born just a few weeks before SB IV.

[@rjam1974]

Beautifully done documentary of the AFL. The NFL would not be nearly as popular without the brashness and boldness of AFL

[@ricjan58]

Probably the best documentary on any subject I have ever seen ,chronicling the greatest rags to riches story in sports history,the American Football League. Thank you for posting.

[@peteg475]

What's interesting is they had to have 3 teams switch conferences because the NFL had 16 teams, and the AFL had 10. Ironically though, the NFL only had 12 teams before the AFL started and had no interest in expansion. The NFL shifted gears and started expanding specifically as a strategy to hurt the AFL. So not only was the AFL successful enough to force a merger, but the existence of the Cowboys, Vikings, Falcons and Saints is directly a result of the AFL. So 14 of the 26 post-merger teams exist because the AFL existed.

[@ThePumasboy300]

Amazing legacy of the AFL keeps going Patriots 6 super bowls Chiefs win their 2nd super bowl Broncos and Raiders with their 3 super bowls each Miami with their 2 and the perfect season Never forget the AFL

[@jerryferko8309]

full colr football ....the whole series ....OUTSTANDING ......... highly recommend the booK ...." GOING LONG " by jeff miller ,,,,,,,, terrific book

[@JayDogTitan]

This is really awesome stuff, The AFL was an awesome league that still grinds it out today through the AFC! GO RAIDERS!!🏈

[@keithmotsinger918]

Bill Walsh was the man in Bengal country.But Paul 's ego couldn't handle it.The rest is History.

[@chrisbacos]

It was fitting that before the merger the Super Bowl tally was two apiece for the AFL and NFL.

[@rogermccarterjr2692]

the afl won in 69 with the jets packers won first two they were NFL

[@VMan29397]

@D Kelly,Jr Wasn't fixed just a bunch of cocky overconfident players

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

@FireWithFire WHO are these so-called "many?" Can you name any of them? If there were ANY...they HAD to be on the arrogant, condescending, un-accepting, narcissistic NFL side of that time. By accusing the AFL or even someone else of perpetrating some kind of "fix" as a face-saving measure is a clear revelation they were too proud to simply eat a big plate of crow and admit they weren't as good. In stating there was some kind of fix, they felt they could then justify the Colts humiliating loss to the Jets. Same thing next season when the Chiefs beat the Vikings. There was no fix in either Super Bowl, the AFL teams were simply better. PS. the Brooklyn Bridge stock sold to another sucker recently. but I do have some prime New Jersey swampland we could discuss?

[@adamdorgant9454]

Agreed!!!

[@dogthatshags]

WOW!!! Wotta brilliant series of videos. Thanks for the effort. Love my Steelers👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻With love from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺🤝🏻🇺🇸

[@johnadams1710]

Spectacular work putting this Series together, very well produced....WOW !!!

[@leoarenque9917]

I really like the rivalry of the Chiefs and the Raiders, my two favorite teams..

[@icbr]

I love the rivalry, too, but they're BOTH your favorite teams??? How is that possible? How did you come to that conclusion?

[@leoarenque9917]

Perry Kane two teams are total opposites, the Chiefs are decent looking and protagonist looking and the Raiders are rugged looking and antagonist looking. Like yin and yang, opposites, and they need to compete against each other. Look at the colors, Chiefs are red and white and Raiders are silver and black.

[@herbpetrillo163]

Really? They are your two favorite teams? Evil vs good? Darth Vader vs Luke?

[@adamdorgant9454]

It’s a great Rivalry!!!

[@tcurr0309]

I liked the Rebel and the Union armies to win the Civil War. couldn't make up my mind.

[@jadentrez]

"Vince Lombardi slammed Al Davis against the wall." I would have liked to have seen that.

[@artistamisto]

Me too. Back then you could do that with little if any repercussions. Today some pussy would try to sue for assault. I like it better when we settled things the old way. It's not that the toughest were always right, but more that if anyone got out of hand you dealt with them. Called teaching a lesson.

[@adamdorgant9454]

I know Right!!!

[@tcurr0309]

Hunt and Tex " sham " really backstabbed Al Davis when he was supposed to be the AFL commissioner. Then they agree to whatever AFC alignment they wanted without ever asking for a vote or any warning.

[@keithbartz9064]

Did you ever see what Vince did to the guy who tried to take his hat after a game? Ferocious.

[@kubricklynch]

Thanks for uploading, that was a very interesting documentary.

[@adamdorgant9454]

Agreed!!!

[@leogetz3570]

God this was a great mini series!!

[@craigmiddleton2278]

52:58 The war never ends with Mr. Davis (I call him that because I met him a few times at the airport). He bled AFL.

[@herbpetrillo163]

Al was a dick, yes,we all know that...but I admire his guts....and his hate for them cocksuckers from the NFL....

[@finchborat]

And his son is keeping that portion of his father's legacy alive. Of all the original AFL teams, the Raiders are the only ones commemorating their 60th season this yr in some capacity. They're wearing a patch on their uniforms.

[@HllywHulk91]

finchborat The Chiefs kind of did; but it would’ve been great for all 8 teams to. The NFL probably didn’t want that sharing the spotlight with their 100th season celebration.

[@artistamisto]

What I like best about Chiefs and Raiders is they never sold out their identity for money. Same helmets & uniforms since the 60s, while some other teams changed to ugly for $$.

[@kingbee1500]

This is very slightly different from the original 2009 edit...the photo of Larry King at 53:15 is new, as are a few other visuals. BTW, the last active AFL player to retire from the NFL? Charlie Joyner (Houston, Cincinnati, San Diego; 1969-1986).

[@mikeyoungblood1642]

King Bee Joiner

[@SantiagoTM1]

The sad part about this great football history, is that 99% of ALL current NFL players don't know the history of Pro Football. I love love the AFL. Knowing myself, had I known this history, I would've been an Oakland Raider, & Fuck Minnesota. Each drafted player should know the history of their respective Team that draft them, along with the History of the AFL, & what actually happened to Pro Football, & how it became what it is today. Now, I have such an appreciation for all those AFL pioneers. I love Al Davis too, along with Namath, & Mr. Lanier from KC who's a HOF.

[@NeoNitty]

Top notch documentary on the AFL, on football period. On the same level (maybe better) as The History of Pro Football from the 1980s.

[@bigpapasmurfz6252]

And the last shall be first. This episode should just be named Lamar Hunt. The 'crazy' man who came up with the idea of another football league, has his benediction at the final moment of his creation. What a tremendous moment for him. He was laughed at, ridiculed, and had many a dark moment. But, he persevered and gained the respect and admiration for his league, that they had long sought. This is the finest moment, (along with The Chief getting his game ball and first trophy, also in New Orleans,) in Super Bowl history. Just, out of this world. Dreams DO come true.

[@CowSaysMooMoo]

It's a little easier for you dreams to come true when your family literally has virtually endless money behind you.....100Mill$ in 1960 is what like 2 billion today????

[@NeverMeAlwaysYou]

Doesn't matter how much money you have behind you if your idea sucks. You can hang in there longer, definitely, but there's no guarantee you're going to succeed. Lamar persevered because he believed his idea would work. Not because he had untold millions. Why throw good money at a bad idea? Makes no sense.

[@liveinlovealways]

This video was outstanding, ty for the upload!

[@christopherjustice6411]

Another reason Kansas City fans hate the Raiders is because Oakland stole the A’s from us in 1968 and left us without baseball for the first time since 1900. So a lot of people in Kansas City started venting their frustration out on the Raiders because they were also based in Oakland.

[@stephenhawkingsfootballboo7885]

Hank Stram: Great coach; Worst toupee in the business.

[@davidozab2753]

Re: Hank Stram. I can't reconcile the three piece suits and the shorty shorts. 😄

[@CashMeadows]

The Houston Oilers are basically forgotten.. it seems to make sense since they got stuck outside the league in the merger. The Steelers, Browns and Bengals were 6 games of the season Seems like Bud could of been a little more vocal. It was Hunts idea but He needed Adams to agree. The show needed his backing. He brought the Heisman trophy winner to the AFL in 1960. I had never heard about him sign Ditka and The QB. Lol.but that was a bold move. He gets such raw deal in the media and as a owner.

[@artistamisto]

I'd much rather see the Oilers helmets/uniforms than that ugly Titans travesty. Worst logo/uniform in the NFL.

[@gordonteats298]

We're all colored people RED YELLOW BLACK AND WHITE

[@skelderon64]

That's what makes this country so cool.

[@andrewpadaetz5549]

The offense the Bengals orchestrated in the late 60s (the "Ohio River" offense) would have been even better if their 1st round pick of '69 (QB Greg Cook, number 12 as seen in the film) could have avoided injury.

[@brettbanta2100]

Yeah, I've seen some things about him. Bill Walsh said he would have been one of the greats if not for injuries

[@effend446]

The "ohio river" offense likely would have never happened had Greg Cook not suffered that career-ending injury. Bill Walsh's scheme was developed out of necessity because Cook's replacement Virgil Carter didn't have the arm strength that Cook had. Nor did the Bengals have the strongest offensive line/running game. So they had to resort to short passes and trickery in order to be competitive.

[@jamesthomas788]

What if Paul Brown would have named Bill Walsh as his successor in Cincinnati what if?

[@waynedowning6809]

Love the history videos

[@TheAdamBombX1]

Awesome documentary! Thanks for posting! Go Bills!

[@SantiagoTM1]

The sad part about this great football history, is that 99% of ALL current NFL players don't know the history of Pro Football. I love love the AFL. Knowing myself, had I known this history, I would've been an Oakland Raider, & Fuck Minnesota. Each drafted player should know the history of their respective Team that draft them, along with the History of the AFL, & what actually happened to Pro Football, & how it became what it is today. Now, I have such an appreciation for all those AFL pioneers. I love Al Davis too, along with Namath, & Mr. Lanier from KC who's a HOF.

[@prestonlindbeck1197]

Hey Cincinnati, win one for the AFL come 13/Feb/2022. Go Bengals!!

[@gordonteats298]

STEELERS MAKE IT TOUGH by APOLOGETIX a great football song

[@imannonymous7707]

ya like mlb twwo diiferent leagues , that had spirit the contrast and rivalry. that wouldve been cool

[@americangiant1003]

Too bad starting in 1997, the American and National Baseball Leagues ceased to exist and in reality become the National and American Conferences of MLB. The AL and NL exists in name only since 1997. Back to topic. The realignment that Rozelle helped to create actually worked great. Although Dallas being in the NFC East to this day (as of end of 2017 season) and Atlanta in the NFC West (until realignment put them in the newly created NFC south)was a joke.

[@tonyarceneaux286]

Great series.

[@adamdorgant9454]

Yes indeed!!!!

[@glennstirling1151]

The AFL games were so much better than NFL games ... it wasn't even close !!! As a Boston sports fan I never rooted for a New York team in my life except once ... The JETS over the Colts !!! That game still remains as one of my greatest sports memories & Namath as one of my favorite athletes !! I remember being so very disappointed when the leagues merged and the AFL became just a memory.

[@hamburg1306]

Point spreads are set in order to get equal bets on both teams.

[@adamdorgant9454]

Great video!!!!

[@overcomersmedia465]

They shouldn't have realigned. Keep 16 teams in the NFL and 10 in the AFL. The next 6 new franchises would've joined the AFC/AFL. AFL could've kept the 2pt conversion, and maybe the SB would've rotated having the 2pt conversion like the WS rotated the DH.

[@curtiswilliams8285]

Go Bengals! Long live the AFL!

[@kevink2593]

As soon as the Jets won the Super Bowl, Rozelle had it in for Namath.

[@peteg475]

Looking back, it seems obvious to me that the results of Super Bowls 3 and 4 show that the NFL didn't have the superiority they thought they had over the AFL. The NFL's false sense of superiority wasn't really based on the NFL being objectively better than the AFL, but rather the fact that Lombardi's Packers were better than EVERYBODY. As soon as the Packers weren't there anymore, the parity between the two leagues became more apparent.

[@roshango125ab]

Oh yeah that's what I've been saying, true Lombardi's Packers dominated the Chiefs and Raiders in the first 2 superbowls,..but they also dominated every team in the NFL throughout the 60's. The first 2 superbowls where really more representitive of how good the Packers where, not how much better the NFL was compared to the AFL like everyone thought. Not knocking those 68 Colts and 69 Vikings teams, they where dominant, but the Jets and Chiefs where closer then everyone thought

[@keithespinoza2064]

How very fitting that former AFL doormat Denver won their first Super Bowl by knocking off the defending champion Packers! Green Bay was a 14 point favorite and Denver proved they were a better team! That was an old school Super Bowl. AFL Baby!

[@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt]

@@keithespinoza2064 Right on Keith! I remember that game and was absolutely elated that the Broncos beat Green Bay! I'm old enough to remember the news clip of the Broncos beating the Detroit Lions in an exhibition game at University of Denver Football Stadium in August of 1967. Alex Karras, Lions D-lineman stated that if an AFL team beats his NFL Lions, he would walk back to Detroit. That's a journey of about 950 miles. Not sure if he walked back through Kansas or Nebraska on his way back to the motor city, but I'm sure he got himself a good stretch of the legs. Great post! Long Live the AFL!

[@usmcfutball]

So glad I'm j-u-s-t old enough to have enjoyed the last 2-3 years of the AFL in real time. This documentary may not have been 100% factual, but they got it right about the Chiefs/Raiders rivalry. Hide the womenfolk!!

[@SantiagoTM1]

The sad part about this great football history, is that 99% of ALL current NFL players don't know the history of Pro Football. I love love the AFL. Knowing myself, had I known this history, I would've been an Oakland Raider, & Fuck Minnesota. Each drafted player should know the history of their respective Team that draft them, along with the History of the AFL, & what actually happened to Pro Football, & how it became what it is today. Now, I have such an appreciation for all those AFL pioneers. I love Al Davis too, along with Namath, & Mr. Lanier from KC who's a HOF.

[@theolee3851]

Man hitting out of bounds and everything. And no flags wow 😆 lol👍

[@playdave3476]

Best line Asst Coach - "You can't float those balls like that in our league." Coach Stram - "That's right!" Cracks me up every time. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewr62]

Such bull too. AFL QB's threw so much more picks than NFL QB's at that time did. NFL QB's led in virtual all QB stats over AFL QB's. AFL QB's overall never through more TD's than interceptions. Not one season.

[@playdave3476]

@@andrewr62 You totally missed the joke. (smh) 🫤

[@andrewr62]

@@playdave3476 Was it a joke?

[@playdave3476]

@@andrewr62 Thinking about it, it's not so much a joke as it was a jab at the NFL for what Lombardi said just three years earlier about the Chiefs. ☝🏾 That's what makes it hilarious to me.

[@andrewr62]

@@playdave3476 What Lombardi said was directed at the AFL more than the Chiefs.

[@wsbill14224]

When the Chiefs were 13 point underdogs that did not mean they were expected to lose by that much. Bookmakers put the line where they think it needs to be in order to get even money on both sides of the bet. The point spread is more about gambling than football.

[@zigwald]

the west coast offense was born out of the fact, the great Greg Cook was injured. how ironic it was the Chiefs that hurt Cook.Virgil Carter was tough, but couldn't throw the ball down field. they did have a good line, just Carter couldn't deliver. the worst mistake of Paul Brown's career....hiring Tiger Johnson and not Bill Walsh....

[@fanboy2015]

God damn this was a good documentary.

[@SantiagoTM1]

The sad part about this great football history, is that 99% of ALL current NFL players don't know the history of Pro Football. I love love the AFL. Knowing myself, had I known this history, I would've been an Oakland Raider, & Fuck Minnesota. Each drafted player should know the history of their respective Team that draft them, along with the History of the AFL, & what actually happened to Pro Football, & how it became what it is today. Now, I have such an appreciation for all those AFL pioneers. I love Al Davis too, along with Namath, & Mr. Lanier from KC who's a HOF.

[@adamdorgant9454]

Agreed!!!!

[@armorybrunotjr.3204]

It was too bad Vince Lombardi was in the hospital and did not live to see the merger of the "new" NFL in 1970. He died of cancer that September.

[@timwoods3171]

I read somewhere -- maybe it was in David Maraniss' terrific biography of Lombardi?? -- that Lombardi died at "exactly the right time," the old ways of the NFL were being overtaken by the new, flashy, "showtime ways" which the AFL represented. Obviously many decades have passed since Lombardi's death, but he, George Halas, etc., all must spin in their graves at times.

[@mr.majestic2667]

@@timwoods3171 57 was never the right time maybe quit coaching but not dying

[@jstube36]

Perhaps the most crowning sense of pride for the AFL is that one of it's original teams, the Patriots, is the best of the modern football era. And both it's coach and QB are now considered the best ever. We can go back and forth about the Patriots. But they are the embodiment and model of professional success.

[@herbpetrillo163]

I hate them. But it is justice. They lost the first ever game in AFL history.

[@samson9535]

The NFL should have thanked their lucky stars the AFL accepted to merge. The AFL made the NFL that much better.

[@mikeforte7585]

I miss the AFL....in some ways I wish they kepr the AFL...but it all worked out the NFL is larger than life..

[@osaji922]

Actually, I'd be in favor of a demerger just as long as the NFL keeps the patriots and replace them with the Jaguars or Ravens. Screw the NFL.

[@tygrkhat4087]

One fact not mentioned about Super Bowl IV was that the franchise owned by the AFL's founder beat the franchise that spurned the AFL. Think of this: If the Minnesota franchise remained in the AFL, there would be no Oakland Raiders.

[@robertwest9567]

The Raiders were the last AFL team. Also the only that refused to pay the NFL any entry fees. Also they never paid a relocation fee to the NFL for LA or Oakland...they will for Vegas.

[@cartoonworld1000]

Are you a CFL fan? You have my favourite team as your pic lol

[@herbpetrillo163]

So fitting the chiefs beat the Vikings who tried to screwed us over.screw max winter,the douchebag owner of Minnesota who tried to torpedo the fledgling AFL....screw Minnesota. Chiefs 23 Minnesota 7..... Ha ha ha.screw you, max winter. screw you , Minnesota.

[@mr.majestic2667]

@@robertwest9567 You are wrong the Bengals were thelast team awarded to AFL

[@robertwest9567]

@@mr.majestic2667 no they were the last original AFL team in 1960.

[@Cefdfsacq]

Alworth and Maynard had the best careers...their numbers were excellent and consistent.....they were both great. So was Art Powell...so was Hennigan....so was Bilitikoff.....Otis was hurt before he could really compile....BUT if I have one game to win and I m against a top physical defense, I think Otis would be my first choice.......and if I had Otis, the other side would be Maynard or Warren Wells

[@herbertpetrillo485]

I like your reasoning

[@jayoakes7874]

if i visit the nfl hof hank strams wig better be there

[@Veaseify]

Why was Rozelle able to 'discipline' Namath for his restaurant? Surely he wasn't the commissioner of the AFL so what jurisdiction did he have?

[@MIKIEEYEZ1975]

Steve Veasey because the AFL WAS ABOUT TO MERGE WITH THE AFL SO ROZELLE OVERSAW AFL AS WELL!! Had it happened in 1967 Rozelle couldn’t do shit!!

[@armorybrunotjr.3204]

Because Pete Rozelle also was overseeing the AFL and to prepare his league to merge with the junior circuit. As a result, he felt Joe Namath's restaurant had rather unsavory clientele, so he told him to buy out his shares.

[@SantiagoTM1]

The sad part about this great football history, is that 99% of ALL current NFL players don't know the history of Pro Football. I love love the AFL. Knowing myself, had I known this history, I would've been an Oakland Raider, & Fuck Minnesota. Each drafted player should know the history of their respective Team that draft them, along with the History of the AFL, & what actually happened to Pro Football, & how it became what it is today. Now, I have such an appreciation for all those AFL pioneers. I love Al Davis too, along with Namath, & Mr. Lanier from KC who's a HOF.

[@HllywHulk91]

Santiago Murillo The history of the AFL is what makes me proud to be a Chargers fan. When I became one in ‘02, I didn’t know the history either (I was 13); but I learned it.

[@kenross1634]

Why did the afl ever merge with the inferior nfl, I miss the afl, thanks for the Great show

[@gregorypollard5908]

I miss it too, but things change

[@gregorypollard5908]

By the way if you look at it this way, the remnants of the AFL dominated the 70's Super Bowl 1970-Baltimore Colts [AFC] 1971-Dallas Cowboys [NFC] 1972-Miami Dolphins [AFC] 1973-Miami Dolphins [AFC] 1974-Pittsburgh Steelers [AFC] 1975-Pittsburgh Steelers [AFC] 1976-Oakland Raiders [AFC] 1977-Dallas Cowboys [NFC] 1978-Pittsburgh Steelers [AFC] 1979-Pittsburgh Steelers [AFC] Only Dallas won for the NFC in the 70's

[@gregorypollard5908]

@Dog Breath I will give you the Colts as that team was a carryover from the 60's NFL, however the Steelers won their championships because of the common draft and merger...so they don't count...The Dolphins were born in the late 60's AFL and a lot of the players were still there and the Raiders also had a lot of players on the team that played in 60's AFL

[@artistamisto]

@@gregorypollard5908 False top sentence. Only Miami and Oakland were from the AFL. Steelers and Colts were not remnants of the AFL. They were NFL before transferring to AFC in the 1970 merger. You are confusing both leagues/conferences.

[@gregorypollard5908]

@@artistamisto It wasn't a confusion...my point was about the power swing to the AFC in the 70's and I have to at least include Pittsburgh which was built in the AFC...Pittsburgh was not a good team prior to the merger..you are right about the Colts as they were a pure NFL team put into the AFC/AFL and won a Super Bowl there

[@finchborat]

RIP Len Dawson

[@farmasyst]

The 1969 Chiefs team is one of the most underrated Super Bowl Championship teams of all time. That defense was as good as the '85 Bears and '90 Giants;Emmet Thomas and Jim Marsalis invented the " bump and run". You could teleport that team into today's environment and they would still be a Playoff caliber team. Andy Reid and Doug Pederson still use some of Stram's formations and motion patterns. The inside hand-offs to Nelson Agholar in the 2017 Super Bowl were exactly the same plays that Stram used with Frank Pitts in the '69 Super Bowl. In later years, it's come to light that Dawson was not as squeaky clean as one was led to believe. Even during the week leading up to the Super Bowl, the media was investigating stories of Dawson's involvement with a big time gambling ring out of St Louis. Looking back on the Chiefs' seasons and scores, I'm inclined to believe that Lenny was doing a little shaving, and I don't mean Platinum Plus Blades.

[@kaseyrutherford5145]

Funny how Hank Stram's hair grew as he got older.

[@Music--ng8cd]

And changed color

[@adamdorgant9454]

True!!!

[@kc0lif]

hank stram and lamar hunt were good people.

[@marvinclay4476]

65 toss power trap

[@HllywHulk91]

This is why having a league like the XFL is great. More football, more guys get to showcase their work, more football lol.

[@whataboutrob442]

No more XFL.

[@ritchie9030]

This doc series is A-1

[@markzuckier3003]

Goosebumps.

[@jonirving5606]

Alex Kroll seems like a real interesting guy.

[@danwadle2609]

Was a big ad exec in New York

[@fritterfoof5146]

peter coyote is a good narrator

[@mikeforte7585]

I miss the AFL...I kinda.wish they kept the two leagues...but it all worked out...football is as popular as ever..

[@dsmits84]

Crazy how so many people that are into football and have no idea of this history

[@davidwormell6609]

8:00. Absolutely the best and common sense solution.

[@blacksmith44]

-" The New York Giants are my team, and that's, that!!"

[@rodneywaugh8535]

Think about this...... Before the AFL came along there were no professional sports franchises in the south......NONE

[@brucewettin]

this is great!

[@tomschoper7829]

Hunt took a bribe from Schram to move from Dallas.