Moneyball Rebuild in MLB the Show 23

[@mattgray9297]

“David Justice at 7 million…” Billy Beane: No, man, I ain't paying you seven. Yankees are paying half your salary. That's what the New York Yankees think of you.

[@User-b9q2z]

They're paying you to play against them

[@manbuckets]

How can you not be romantic about baseball

[@burtsy.]

When you fucking strike out with the bases loaded

[@schmads6683]

Uh because it’s by far the most unbalanced organization in sports and competitiveness is solely about which owners want to spend money

[@17rjp]

@@burtsy. 🤣

[@funvideos873]

@@burtsy. 😂😂😂 I agree

[@trevorharris4647]

It’s a metaphor

[@VonRye]

Moneyball was successful because Oakland had 3 Cy Young caliber SPs in Zito, Hudson, & Mulder, plus MVP Miguel Tejada & Eric Chavez at SS & 3B. 2002 was the last year those pitchers were on their non-arbitration contracts...each making less than $1 million that year. Even Tejada & Chavez made less than $4 million each.

[@TheAntOrtiz]

Yeah, tough with the contracts now a days to emulate that. So I guess I could give myself more money. Or just focus more so on the analytical/stats aspect of Moneyball

[@mitchellima7548]

While this is true I wouldn’t say this is the only reason. Oakland did revolutionize what matters when looking at in a player and turned a team that many thought was going middling to bad and made it really good by using metrics people didn’t care about back then. Not denying the fact they had talent(especially aces) but I wouldn’t say that’s the reason they were successfull

[@VonRye]

@@mitchellima7548 Yeah, let's ignore the fact that they had 3 aces all 26 and under on the staff which makes winning so much easier. Even Ant said in the video he had to go get better pitching because it wasn't working out for him. Pitching of that quality on the cheap isn't found that often. One of the major complaints about the book and the movie is they almost completely ignored Hudson, Mulder, Zito, Chavez & Tejada. Analytics won't do a damn thing if you dont have talent to go with it.

[@mitchellima7548]

@@VonRye you didn’t read my comment. I said you can’t ignore the aces but it’s not the reason. It’s just ignorant to act as if the philosophy moneyball presented wasn’t a major contributor to their success. This is also back up by the fact the modern era of team building has so much to give to these philosophies. Teams are built with these ideas in mind. Next time try reading the comment your replying to.

[@VonRye]

@@mitchellima7548 I read it and disagreed with your premise. Their top 5 players that year were already on the team. The guys they added via analytics helped, but were easily not the reason for the team's success. Pitching, defense, and 3-run homers still win you more games.

[@ScrawnySlugger]

“If we try to play like the Yankees in here, we’ll lose to the Yankees out there”

[@Daniel-zi9zo]

I think maybe focusing on pitchers with funky delieveies would be a good idea. Like how they got Chad Bradford for the sole reason being his delivery. Kinda like how the Rays bullpen was a couple of years ago, just a lot of different arm slots, and a ton of differing velos.

[@sneakgamecrazy]

it’s definitely harder because of how the real team changed the game. now the game actually values and has attributes for contact hitting and plate discipline and walks/9 and hits/9

[@ThreeGeezy]

I guess this would be kinda similar, but a rebuild where you can’t spend more than say 6, 8, or 10 million on a single player would be interesting. It would be a good mix of finding the glitchy sim guys and a challenge.

[@lordtwiwi6076]

I’ve found that players like Nolan Gorman and Vaughn Chissom have good stats and produce

[@charliestergos1857]

@@lordtwiwi6076Nolan Gorman basically turned into Barry Bonds for me in one simulation lmao

[@torn8to277]

@@charliestergos1857same lol

[@sheikhrasheed9009]

I love the rebuild however my only thing as an Econ major in college baseball salaries have gone above the rate of inflation since 2000 I would love to see a moneyball rebuild using the CPI inflation rate of baseball itself not the us cpi inflation

[@igbsmf]

h e g e t s o n b a s e

[@Erik-vn5xk]

Budget rebuilds are my favorite because it’s not that fun to just spend a ton of money imo. Currently doing my own with the Reds with the same budget and it’s fun to have to make smart moves to succeed

[@aidand.343]

You could do a realistic Moneyball rebuild, I feel like it would be fun. Mix the elements of realistic with an in-depth Moneyball rebuild. It would be really cool to see!

[@Scheboygan8767]

This is one of my favorite rebuilds, it’s not just signing and trading for insane prospects and free agents

[@drdeathinc2663]

the most absolute moneyball player on mlb is steven kwan. most consistent hitter ive seen

[@jakemialitsis4745]

I personally wouldnt be locking up players for multi year extensions if youre doing a moneyball rebuild. The moneyball strategy was all about giving players a new lease of life and finding hidden gems through the draft or using a lot of platooning would be the way to go. Again though, the show's franchise mode isnt fleshed out enough to fully encapsulate the true moneyball experience as compared to something like ootp due to things like random tendancies being a big part of that game

[@alexanderentwistle5984]

Currently doing a long term A’s franchise… I have 2 generationals, Juan Soto for 26.7m, and Jackson Holiday. Plus 3 A potential starters. Have not won more than 70 games in 4 seasons.

[@gilbertsanchez7511]

Moneyball was less about AVG and more OBP and Slugging right?

[@mikemoyer6107]

I did it based on obp and didn't worry about pitching and our record was 106- 56 batting .297 with a team era of 9.83 and won the world series

[@markvaughn2778]

I haven't played '23 yet, but pitchers like Kyle Freeland and Jake Woodford seem like they would fit this well

[@pweezy2000]

Any good rosters to use? Trying to start long franchise but all of these rosters are missing key prospects or are just cheesy

[@k-shea]

following this. hoping for the answer

[@kobeydeaton35]

Try moneyball but 2 players have to be on 12 mil + contracts cannot trade them, start with 60 mil think it could be difficult but also fun

[@damesalazar8176]

Tracy Thompson winning mvp is crazy 42:00

[@FaithFamilyHonor]

Question for anyone. The little strikeout box that shows up after every strikeout with the number of Ks you have, why does that not show sometimes?

[@curlyfries8509]

Ant = best rebuilder… and please help the dodgers pitching

[@lukemalloy5778]

Can someone tell me how do you see the screen with all your draft picks after signing

[@mcgarbage4974]

You’re a good egg Ant

[@mattgray9297]

Underrated comment

[@DavidJones-fs2gl]

what rosters are you using now?

[@k-shea]

following this. hoping for the answer

[@sirstratigiz9876]

ik bro didn’t know what he was talking about immediately when he started talking about stolen bases lmao

[@Madison-in-da-house]

What website were you on that showed the pie chart for salaries that’s an interesting way to see who’s getting the most money.

[@TheAntOrtiz]

idk I just searched the athletics moneyball salary & that was a website that came up

[@ParamoreFAV3]

The Rays are the real Moneyball team; we’ve been extremely successful with how we approach the game.

[@fortunax22]

Lol Flexens BB/9 went from 1.80 to 1.83 and it was a big let down....

[@therealyannick1058]

Could you do a brewers rebuild?

[@appeardead]

watching this in the future and laughing at the trade for chris flexen, hes been so bad this year the mariners are scared to put him in

[@trajohnson2640]

Prospects and young players help a ton too

[@TheAntOrtiz]

Yeah, I didn't want to just fully rock a full prospect team tho cause I felt like that'd be cheating lol Basically stack a roster full of top prospects and just wait for them to be good 😂

[@trajohnson2640]

@@TheAntOrtiz true absolutely great video!

[@cmdz1138]

i think you should limit the amount of trades that youre allowed to do somewhat. also maybe not trade guys signed in FA until at least the deadline. but i also understand these vids would be tough if you didnt win anything for like 10 years.

[@startAndParks]

S/o to you for the Flyers sweatshirt

[@tcampsdesigns]

Fire ant

[@coopercollins1780]

The is where the glitchy low overall players would of came in

[@derekarmstrong7078]

So giants rebuild next plz

[@bensweetra4871]

🐜=🐐

[@GreenHornet0]

Please do rays rebuild

[@calebcicero7727]

the shift really hasn’t changed much

[@n1ghtt295]

Day 3 of asking TheAntOrtiz to make a roster and upload it! 😎

[@pweezy2000]

Need it or just a good one :/

[@n1ghtt295]

@Pweezy2000 I agree, and he seems to actually watch games, so he would update appropriately! Ha

[@jimtrusselberry6536]

First

[@DarinPirkey]

also the reason the league sucks right now lol

[@cr0ssed7462]

might use this strategy for my Dynasty

[@RK-10]

This was a complete fail

[@TheAntOrtiz]

yeah kinda. I'd agree. That's why I asked for some input to do it again