The Sun, Moon, and Rising Sign in Astrology

An introduction to the Sun, Moon, and rising signs in astrology, and explaining what they mean and what the difference is between them, with astrologers Chani Nicholas and Chris Brennan.
In the 20th century it became common for people to know their Sun-sign, which is the sign of the zodiac the Sun was located in on the day you were born.
However in recent years due to the rise of astrology apps and websites it has become more common to know your so-called "big three", which are your Sun, Moon, and rising signs.
But what do the Sun, Moon and rising zodiac signs mean in a birth chart? During the course of this episode we discuss the core meanings of these placements, which Chani calls the "three keys" to your birth chart.
In Chani's approach the Sun signifies your life's purpose and how you shine, the Moon represents your physical and emotional needs and how we live out our purpose in the physical realm, and the Ascendant and its ruler show your motivation for living and direction your life is steered in.
Chani is the author of the book You Were Born for This: Astrology For Radical Self-Acceptance, and is the creator of the CHANI app, which is an astrology app available for iOS and Android.
You can find out more about Chani on her website:
chaninicholas.com
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Introduction
00:06:00 Chani's background in astrology
00:13:15 Sun, Moon, and rising sign overview
00:15:30 The Ascendant and rising sign
00:34:38 Three guidelines for learning astrology
00:41:15 The Sun
00:53:00 Importance of triplicity and modality of the Sun
01:03:47 Astrology shows how we are complex individuals
01:06:50 Hidden areas of the chart
01:14:44 The Moon
01:42:28 Sect: day vs night charts
01:48:50 Finding your life's purpose
01:58:31 New CHANI app Android version
02:03:20 Concluding remarks
02:05:46 End cards and credits

[@TheAstrologyPodcast]

Let us know what your Sun, Moon, and rising signs are on the comments below, and how you see the difference between them!

[@user-rw7jx7mv5e]

Have you done an episode on the ruler of the chart and how to understand it in the overall significance?

[@teadale2693]

@@user-rw7jx7mv5e Yes!..in good and bad conditions..

[@thebrooklynalchemist111]

Sun Scorpio Moon Libra Rising Leo ... Going thru it , 3rd nodal return was exact this past week , and definitely experiencing the summer retrograde themes via my artistic expression creating textures and style using resin. Something from nothing ❤

[@vytkoicaro]

Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Ascendant Libra

[@user-ss6db3lo2k]

Sun and rising Aquarius 0/19 respectively 12 house, moon Libra 0 conjunct Jupiter house 7 ( placidus) said bye bye to Saturn and saying again again hello Pluto!

[@Notesofcitrus]

Both of you get me so jazzed about astrology so listening to you together at the same time is 10/10

[@Sarah-mh6vx]

“If you want to do good in the world, go home and love your family” I always took this quote as a way of saying, in order to be of services to other/world, we must take care of our “main house”/“family/self”

[@Gracundrprssure]

This was a phenomenal podcast- Chani rocks and Chris your podcasts just keep evolving. You’re setting the bar higher and higher in professional and fun presentations. Engaging, informative and interesting I can’t believe how fast 2 hours flies by.

[@thunderspooks192]

Chani is a goddess! what a wonderful collab

[@erikajasminnn]

my two astrology teachers together! I’ve learned so much from the two of you and I can’t wait to watch this ❤️

[@jenniferseiden3838]

Two Legends! Glad to see the Collaboration 🙌👏🎉

[@gustavomarques2997]

I didn't know anything about Chani, but she's great! She explains things the best she can and really teaches us what she has in mind eloquently. Great guest!

[@carmeladams9566]

Thank you both for this episode. Chris, lovely to see your relaxed smile - you are usually quite serious. Chani must have brought it out in you. ❤

[@adonohu1]

Haha he’s very serious at least in the beginning of this.

[@iphoukwani]

I am so grateful for the 3 guidelines for learning astrology. How my understanding of the difficult aspects in my chart isn't static, that it will evolve through time and wisdom. turns my doom gloom fears "fate" into something more. . .

[@cameronairen]

Happy to see Chani finally on the podcast! Chris & Chani vibe well together - loved listening to this. You both articulated the basics of astrology well, which is a good teaching for us astrologers on how to explain astrology better to folks so thank you.

[@willgreen8989]

My husband has a Capricorn Moon in the 2nd house and he LOVES making spreadsheets. We use the spreadsheets but he loves MAKING them. This episode made me realize this is a reflection of the CAP/cardinal nature of his Moon. He takes care of his body by going for a run every day, and then inputting it on his spreadsheet. My Moon is in the 4th house, Pisces. I take care of my body by sitting at home (4th house) on my solar Taurus tuchus and doing spiritual stuff (Pisces), pulling a Tarot card, meditating on it... and then entering it on the spreadsheet that my husband made for me, because he loves making spreadsheets!

[@RebeccaReser]

Love a Cap moon + Pisces moon combo 👌🏽

[@TeflonBarbie]

Haha

[@suppleleo]

Somehow Chani has not come through to me in this same way through her social media. I was absolutely blown away by her presence and knowledge here. I guess that’s just the nature of social media, isn’t it.

[@taylorsvlogs.5552]

i’ve been waiting for this since you mentioned it!! can’t wait to sit down and listen to it

[@Michelle-cb5jf]

Love, Love, Love Chani! And Chris! Such a great convo! Thank you! ❤

[@nickir990]

Sun in the 8th here. Definitely an introvert and literally work with death and taxes. Thank goodness for my Leo ascendant that lightens it all up!😊 Great chat guys!! Thank you for all the insight.

[@michaelachuter7443]

I am also sun in the 8th house. Would love to talk to you and exchange thoughts on that

[@wutheringheights01]

my sun is in the 8th house and I’m scared of death 😂

[@suppleleo]

Moon in the 8th and I also work in tax :)

[@GoldenTimeline711]

So many personal revelations from this collaborative video. Thank you for sharing your astrological wisdom with the collective.✨

[@ljiggy992]

chani and chris are you kidding me 🔥

[@aliciabushman7806]

I have wondered a long time about this. It can be challenging to get a deep understanding of the foundational flow that our our Sun, rising sign and Moon reveals. What I came to is the Sun is the essential self. As a water sign Sun sign, it feels like my private way of being. The rising feels like the part of us that intersects with the world. The emphasis of which appears our patterns of being in day to day experience. I have heard it referred to as our mask. It seems like more than that. How you appear is the not just a social construct. It is your physical self, your patterns in living , and what you are drawn to. Our Moon seems like our instincts. How we feel and how we perceive what can feel about the the mysterious within us . How we function psychologically. Our perception of the hidden world, operur ancestry the deeply emotional aspects of how we connect in relationships. I appreciate taking this deeper dive in this video. Thanks.

[@auntsmith]

I am so thankful for your online courses, Chris. I would have never had a chance to really study without that!!

[@Junenomad]

This has to be my favorite episode! Chani is so great to listen to. You guys are good together! Hope you have her back one day.

[@annaritafilosa2623]

So good to see you both! Love Chani 💜

[@eden6355]

Chani's App and this podcast are my daily, weekly and monthly go to! I thank you both deeply for all you do 🕉

[@sarahmem444]

Sooooo many good examples of sign/house placements and how it colors the complexities of one's personality! My favorite was the Leo rising with the sun in Capricorn in the 6th house. One of my favorite public figures is a podcast host and a musician. She's so loud and bold like a Leo rising (podcast host, musician) but she also spent a year on a farm doing hard farm work, and advocates for oppressed groups and loves volunteering and helping others (capricorn sun in 6th house).

[@kristoferloerwald9174]

The transition @31:52 is amazing, and so are both of you. Thank you so much.

[@jordan932002]

Such a great conversation 👏it provided so much significance about Sun, Moon, Rising in astrology. Really compelling. Thanks!

[@KennyPaulSmith]

Very pleased to have discovered your podcast!!

[@tsmfff9251]

Just a lovely podcast. Really enjoyed this

[@carmenp9272]

Thanks for this episode ❤

[@stelabesenyei-merger1301]

This episode was so full of wisdom and depth that I will listen to it again, but this time take notes as well. Thank you to both brilliant astrologers!

[@airplane_flaps]

Brilliant episode, I really enjoy Chani's takes on things and really enjoyed her book. I will need to dig it out to reread it, and I can finally get the app! Really excited that it has now come out on android and look forward to any and all updates for it.

[@amyo858]

Thank you so much! I loved this

[@LayaCenter]

a very refreshing vid.. I loved going back to basic with a beautiful perspective

[@zensutras]

I’m listening now and so moved by the wisdom of the moment we’re born. I am a Pisces sun and moon with an Aries ascendant. I also have Pisces in Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Chiron, and Juno(!) which deserves that exclamation point 😮😂😵‍💫

[@vanessaward7025]

I just love love your podcast! I finally feel like 😊 it’s happening lol I’ve followed and studied astrology and astronomy both West and East seriously all my life!! Good job guys!!❤🎉

[@jupiterio_]

Great episode. Thanks!

[@alexandrarose7939]

The explanation of the sun and the moon relationship (moon being the reflector of light and the sun being the soul expression through the body) ... so beautiful Chani!

[@222dyan]

Aquarius Rising♒️ Sun Pisces♓️ Moon Pisces♓️ A deeply sensitive soul Who is a forward thinker and lives outside the box in every way imaginable. So, perfect! Thank you for more insights and wisdom, much appreciated. 😃🙏♒️♓️♓️☮️💜🌎

[@cameronairen]

love that! Where is Saturn in your chart?

[@222dyan]

@@cameronairen in my 12 th house.🙂👍

[@MJAYMONONOKE]

Ouu! Opposite Rising Signs. Pisces Sun & Moon, Leo Rising.

[@juliekongs4856]

I ordered Chani’s book after listening to this broadcast. I have learned so much from her. She explains things so clearly. A great book!

[@keekeejenkins6162]

Agreed, it's a great book

[@TheMovingfuture]

So interesting loved it thank you both.

[@HeavenlyDi]

I love how in depth your natal charts are. It has all the symbols I need when interpreting people's charts and incorporating them in astro map readings Now I don't need to go to several websites I can pull everything from your charts. I'm enjoying the free part of app so far I love how deep you go Mrs. Nicholas!!

[@ItsAV2023]

This is wonderful!!! Thank you for tackling The Big Three!!! ❤❤❤

[@healthwhatelse6294]

My two fav! 🎉🎉 Thank you guys!

[@belikestephanie]

Love this Astrology Podcast about the of the Sun, Moon and Ascendent/Rising sign. I loved the discussion about the ascendent sign and it’s relation to the “dark houses” because it’s given me a new appreciation to my natal chart.

[@user-jy3nc5yi2y]

I've been a Chani fan for the last 3 years after reading her book "you were born for this". afterwards had my chart done Leo sun, Sag Rising and Scorpio Moon. Awesome stuff! Chani rocks!

[@maureenbyrne8951]

Very enjoyable and insightful! Thank you Chris & Chani ❤❤ I have Gemini rising and Gemini moon, sun in Leo 3rd house. Emotions and intuition so present, I also have night chart and most planets in lower portion of chart. I love teaching creative writing and also visual arts. Thank you again Chris for all your shows, and concept of whole house. 🙃

[@darlene-MamaD]

Excellent/ Informative video! Thank you! Aries Sun. Leo Moon. Scorpio Rising. Night chart.

[@user-nn2hp6jg2w]

love you both! thank you for all you do + are :)

[@Rockycoastmom]

Dream team!!😍😍😍 This was so helpful Sag 🌙 ♉️rising ♋️ ☀️🙏🙏🙏

[@monicasquare]

I’m a full moon night chart girl! Thanks very much for this interesting video, guys! ❤

[@jmsal50]

Excellent… I listened twice already

[@estherswann1665]

love this, illuminating the basic brilliantly! itoo started studying astrology at 12 years old (1966!) thank you for this sun and moon libra scorpio asc (with venus)

[@robertaastrologia]

I ordered Chani’s book after listening to this. I really enjoy you two together. Well, I m a Cancer sun, with Sagitarius Moon and Scorpio rising sign. I love starting new things, having multiple projects in mind, but at the same time, when I start something that I can be very passionate, I sustain for a long time.

[@camillehempel3203]

“Right sizing”! In regard to understanding our trauma. Good stuff

[@amora5085]

Wonderful! Chani is my absolute favorite💞 i am a Scorpio Sun in the 10th house at 29°

[@gutierrezsuzy]

Two of my favorite people!!!!! ❤

[@juliaanadam7762]

I was not sure I wanted to listen to this episode because I thought it would be a promo for the app, but it is now one of my favourites from the channel. I have learned so much, specially different angles of topics I already new a bit about. It was so easy to understand. The part about birth and the ascendant was amazing too. Thank you for both of you. I am an Aquarius rising with sun and moon in Aries :)

[@janicegreen534]

Virgo sun, Sag rising, and Scorpio moon!

[@katgrrl77]

As a beginner and someone who is dyslexic, I just realized that the rising and “east” part of the astrology chart is opposite one would think of where the “east” would be if you are looking at a North aligned map. So in essence, for my brain, it helps to think of the chart being drawn when someone is born and you draw it south facing.

[@ihaddox1199]

I actually think Chani is the person who made me delve into my whole chart beyond my Sun sign? Because she has always posted her Horoscopes as "Aries and Aries Rising" and encouraged people to read their rising if they know it? And once I came across that I was like "wait, what's this.." and learned my rising and moon sign. And then everything else, and then all the houses.. so yeah, she is definitely the one who.. unlocked the whole sky for me. lmao

[@annmd1735]

as a labor nurse years ago I had felt that very real presence in the birthing room... and in my own deliveries... it is an interesting connection to the study of astrology

[@annak7473]

Fab show,thank you! Sag ASC, Leo Sun and Moon in the 9th here - and yet an introvert. However, with chart ruler Jup also in my 9th, it is no wonder there is a definite focus on all things international in my life (and also some astrology ;))

[@user-mf2hj1oi2u]

That was such a great episode and I admire you both so dearly. Sun - Virgo/ Moon - Pisces/ Asc- Taurus. I also have Saturn in the 1st house which I am trying to look at ways in which that placement might help me instead of how it is detrimental. I liked how you both discussed that too (ways to work with difficult placements). Thank you so much!

[@michellehowell7544]

Great talk could have watched for hours more! ❤❤

[@patricialyons491]

Thank you both for a most intertaining, educationally enjoyable 3.5 hrs on this beautiful Sunday! 🫡 💓 ♍️ Rising ♌️ Sun-12th ♎️Moon-2nd Day chart I need to redo my chart with whole house system & relisten to this talk & take massive notes on everything. Seeking my last chapter of life's purpose, been a student of astrology since childhood & have been in more of a deep dive since 2010. Things are getting more serious in all ways & I recognize this key true tool of life is playing out before me more & more! Love you both & admiringly benefit from your profound works! Thank you for such generous sharing of yourselves to the world! 💓 Awesome show! 🌟 ❣️

[@mercuryascending1900]

Hi, you have the same 3 top placements as my daughter! 🧡

[@teadale2693]

Two GOATS in one place! Thanks Chris.. as always, fantastic content.

[@phoenixtarot4862]

Loved this so much. Pisces rising, Leo Moon opposite ascendant, Gemini Sun! I wouldn't have it any other way ❤😘🌟

[@cygnevara8400]

gah so excited for this! just swooped in! lets go!

[@lamachinacoudre]

Brilliant thank you to both of you

[@mattyriddelltarot3277]

Thanks for this podcast! I’m a Virgo Ascendant, Libra Moon and Aries Sun.

[@hanpear]

this is AMAZING my jaw dropped when i saw you brought Chani on 😊 i am sooo excited to listen to this!

[@MsMizz1]

Ayyyyy Chani!! 👏🏾 🎉 The combo I didn’t know I needed 💗

[@Thyme2heal]

Very well said about Saturn connections to the moon natally. I have the trine exact with moon♋️/saturn♏️ at 9* … I definitely do that whole … DO something, consistently, about and involving self-care to FEEL OK about where im at in my self-care journey. ❤ That’s definitely how i work it.

[@anitanyajur2933]

I'm an Aries Sun in the 12th House. :)) Thanks for shining a light on us who are could at shining in the dark and fixing weird dark situations.

[@karmicfruits]

WHAT? Now this IS a Uranus surprise, two of my favorites together. Yay!!!

[@lillyteggin710]

Wow. Thank you so much

[@11cabadger]

Wonderful discussion! Thank you both for the insights. Some of the ideas you mentioned kickstarted some answers to questions I've been struggling with. I especially appreciated the Sun-Moon Teams discussion. For instance, how can stalwart ♑, ruled by old man Saturn, be a feminine sign? Cuz it's on Team Moon! Cold, earthy, karmic, introspective, and emotional. When asked, "What's your sign?" I have never been able to say, "I'm a Capricorn." There's so much more to it! (Full Moon above the horizon for instance.) 🔹Sun in 🐐 🔹Moon in 🦀 🔹Rising Sign in "bouncy" 🏹 So, when are you guys going to do a couple of hours on houses? 😉 A lot of what you discussed (eg: House of the Bad Daimon, the Ruling Planet's house, and placement of the "luminaries") really acted more as enticing tidbits rather than satisfying morsels.

[@8thhouseangie639]

Fantastic episode, especially the part about the ascendant! Because of the nature of the zodiac, the ascendant is Mars/Aries energy. It's cardinal and delegates to the rest of the chart. Which makes sense as Aries is considered the baby, new life full of zeal and promise. Also the part about going from the 12th house to the 1st. That has a Scorpionic undertone to it. Transformation from the shadows of the womb into the light of consciousness.

[@Towandakit]

I've been into astrology since that Great Conjunction the Chani app was released under, and I have studied intently for these 3 years... And somehow I am surprised? That a Chris-Chani collab is just as listenable to me now, as an intermediate and experienced astrologer, as it would have been when I started out? I should know better by now... 😂 Thank you both for your eloquence and innovation in this ancient field of knowing and discovery 🌀♥✨

[@truetonorth]

Thank you, the birth story was very cool. I just learned that I was born with Leo rising (father's sun sign) and Cancer in my 12th house (mother's sun sign). I am a beginner, but that really struck me.

[@alexandrarose7939]

I think when we are talking feminine vs. masculine - we tend to verbalize it within the physical realm, or tie it to just gender, but I think when it comes to astrology which is beyond it's physical realm and into the astrological/spiritual realm its important to not dismiss the discussion but embrace that everything in the universe is both/and. We cannot have one without the other and the dance b/t the two energies his how the Universe turns and works. So, would love to hear more about the fem/masc qualities and how they related to everything working together! .... great episode - learned so much from the both of you!

[@alexandrarose7939]

FYI - I'm talking about fem/masc in terms of energy - form/formless - or give/receive energy - or the masculine container/structure and the feminine free flow- not male/female.

[@janinegibson7641]

Aquarius Sun 2 ° Aquarius Rising, Chiron 5° Mercury's 11°, Ceres 19°Aquarius, Venus 7° Pisces in First House. Moon 6° Gemini in the 4th. Have to communicate personal truth of honouring our Earth and how she nourishes us despite our destructiveness and lack of respect. Leading the Green Party of Manitoba! Thank you both !

[@Nika-Dubai]

Thank You!

[@katgrrl77]

Really appreciated the nuanced although brief conversation about rising signs and intersectionality around who knows their exact birth time and those who do not. Esp if you think back historically, only the very rich would have known their exact time…and even today, not all cultures are centered around the clock and calendar like we are. I would love to know how birth charts are cast for those who don’t follow Gregorian calendar or don’t know when they were born.

[@CathouTarot]

I found out about Chani's work in early 2017. I would never have been into astrology if it wasn't for someone like her, making it accessible and poetic and, more importantly, with a queer feminist perspective. Also, with her horoscopes based on the rising sign, astrology seemed to "work" at last 🙂 I followed some of Chani's courses. Then, when it was time for a more theoretical framework, i found out about the astrology podcast. I binge watched it and a whole world opened up. I'm a virgo rising, sun in gemini. I have the moon + Mercury in taurus in the 9th. I remember when uranus ingressed in taurus in 2018, I became fascinated by Chani's teaching. That's when I really got into astrology 🙂 A big 9th house transit with the right tools 🙂💜

[@nataleo9093]

I love your story here! happy astrology journeying forever

[@iseemyselfinthesparrow1312]

Wow this was amazing. And I totally relate to the strong Mars, being in love with hot sauce but my body having something to say about it and having to pull back on that some 👀😅

[@chloelawson4748]

Mega combo! ❤

[@robinvallier8512]

Ever since I learned my rising sign is Capricorn, opposite my sun sign in Cancer, I’ve been wrapping my head around my ‘conflicts’. Scorpio Moon. I’m pretty deep, but well rounded.

[@thebrooklynalchemist111]

I took your book off my shelf just lastnight!!! Whhoa...i love these co- incidences /synchronicity..must be something im intended to hear, learn understand

[@sabinemetz]

I just read Chani's book and am now starting on yours, Chris. Such great works in their own regard! Thank you both for sharing your knowledge so widely, this was lovely. (I'm a Scorpio rising, Capricorn Sun and Cancer Moon).

[@keekeejenkins6162]

How did/do you like Chris's book? I have it but I feel like I need to sit at a desk in a library to read it🤓

[@sabinemetz]

@@keekeejenkins6162 Haha I totally get that. I have the ebook version which helps a little bit with that, I think. For me it reads fairly easily, he is as concise and matter-of-factly as he is in the podcasts, which I tend to like. I sometimes hear his voice while I'm reading. 😂

[@cecilialam2221]

Omg SQUEEEEEEE!!! What a collab ❤❤❤

[@leahkathryn6734]

So as a Leo Rising with my Chiron and Jupiter in 12H Cancer... the sign of the mother.... I mean I feel like I've never understand 12H better. This is so helpful, thank you! Can't recommend Chani's book enough, I tell so many people about it.

[@lifecanbefun_]

The moment I've learned about the rising, I've stopped using the sun sign as my main zodiac sign. It makes more sense to use rising

[@cameronairen]

Alright, I love this! Same thing for me too :)

[@lifecanbefun_]

@@cameronairen and my life got better with that. People get weirded out when I say I'm my rising sign, "but you weren't born this month", well yeah 😂

[@sgscorpio]

Virgo Sun, Scorpio Asc, and Aquarius Moon. I have learned when to connect to them....so, Virgo is also 10 house for me so I support my client with stretching, therapeutic touch, and breathwork. Then I detach which is very Aquarius so both us can return to our own frequency. Scorpio is how I am with most connections unless they are close along with researching and facing that dark part of myself in order to release it. I like the take on the 3....very interesting.

[@andrewperotti4879]

Loved this video as well as both of your passion for Astrology. Thank you both for the work you do. 🙏💜 Question for whomever wants to reapond.. lol. In the following example chart, which Luminary would be more of an influence on the native? . . . Chart is of the Night Sect . . . ASD / Sun are in the 1st House of Aquarius (Saturn and Mercury are also in the 1st) . . . Moon is in the 4th house of Taurus.

[@Cmrntylr]

Chris probably missed it, the first lawsuit was won in Europe for the gay and lesbian community to break away and found it’s own non profit organization which is likely going to be a trend here now that it’s clear gay marriage is at risk. That was at the very beginning of Venus in retrograde. The astrological system I’ll be using, it’s necessary to use gender. I still need to finish it, actually. I’m actually glad this was uploaded today to remind me I still didn’t finish it. (Mutable ascendant). The way gender will be dealt with is is.. I’ll use my own. Natal virgo ascendant is feminine, its masculine expression is gemini. I plan to revisit all of the astrology podcast sign episodes to specifically pinpoint the ascensional conjunctions because I remember some from memory. Meaning, sometimes the ascensional conjunctions are described within the signs and contrary in others but still in the signification while there being instances brought up where they’re separated. I just backed away to memorize the system, but the full “sign interactions” were put off until later. Even though gender will be used, it’s actually mixed spectrum/non binary. Taurus seeming “Saturnian” would be a tie to Aquarius, virgo making “great editors and assistants etc” is libra. It’ll be wildly varied for obvious reasons. Never underestimate the power of visuals, so I won’t even try to type it out. I don’t mean any offense: 100,000’s people have died in Ukraine and possibly 1,000’s in Maui. Talks of children being burned alive in cars being held by their mother has me equally saying if we are privileged enough to whine about gender we probably need to learn to get over ourselves. More recently.. I discovered there are archetypes for the elements that can be used with the signs. The Aos Sí as air, the Undine as water for example. The sign sympathy system also allows descriptions of soul uniting with spirit and allows Plato’s theory of forms to be used to describe elemental traits among other things. If planets are the outcome, they all symbolize a trauma as trauma is defined as the outcome. Gabor Maté: “The meaning of the word "trauma," in its Greek origin, is "wound." Whether we realize it or not, it is our woundedness, or how we cope with it, that dictates much of our behavior, shapes our social habits, and informs our ways of thinking about the world. It can even determine whether or not we are capable of rational thought at all in matters of the greatest importance to our lives. For many of us, it rears its head in our closest partnerships, causing all kinds of relational mischief.” To me, the reason predictive and psychological/personality astrology works is you’re shaped by your experiences. The chart is the natives “umwelt”. I definitely plan to use the lot of spirit much more (obviously, correct birth time is vital). If the pattern I’m seeing is right (it’d need a significant amount of testing) is the daimon “description” will include the sect light AND its triplicity lords. Sadly, from what books I’ve been reading, I can include myself in the references and it’s matching. I’m a Saturn 1st, Saturn in superior square to Neptune so I’m more annoyed by it than “woohoo”. It makes sense, the lot is derived from the sect light which determines a house topic and ruler “outcome”. The reason sun/moon and lot of spirit significations being similar is (possibly) just in that they are bound together that way. All of that could make sense in terms of methods used for finding “eminence” and planets behaving differently. To me, it’s more informative to say.. virgo ascendant, it gets its cue from taurus (9th house) which has an ascensional conjunction with libra which is the masculine expression of taurus and virgo has a masculine gemini expression (10th). From reading these other books, I think there’s a blending of supernatural/spiritual astrology mixed with modern materialist astrology that needs broken apart. I’d attribute Anamnesis with the 12th house. The Allegory of the Cave as an example. You can use the soul entering the body as a prison of the soul and the limitations of senses as the shadows on the cave wall. The chart is too symbolic of creative energy to drop its symbolic meaning. Life is born from the sensations of electricity (fire) of nerves that produce a liquid (semen/water) to another body (earth) that produces an egg (earth) fertilized by blood (water) which is amphibious until it breathes air to begin life (your birth time). After Chris had the Venus retrograde, I discovered many people charged the myths of the goddess saying it was oppressors that made up fertility goddesses as propaganda to oppress.. I’m over this whole thing. I think most people are and sick of having their sympathies and empathy taken advantage of. 😂

[@MariaLuna-jm2pl]

New here, I've been a Chani fan for a long time. So excited to find this connection to Colorado and this community. I don't have my birth time, and I feel limited in my understanding, any suggestions?

[@7655kitten]

Thank you both 🙏💜

[@Wholeplantfoods_Lucie]

SMR Virgo, Virgo, Aquarius. Thank heavens for my Aqua rising as I have 7 planets in Virgo

[@dawnoceanside7300]

Virgo my midheaven, Capricorn, 2nd, Taurus 5th, other than THAT, I'm an air head!!! Not 2 earth sign but my astrologer looked at me like I was crazy..... Pointed out that me being in finance is where I should be. Go figure!!!

[@livinginparallel]

🌞♓🌛♍⬆️♊ Triple mutable & eclipse native, I constantly struggle with my identity, but don't mind so much as long as I feel like I'm growing and becoming a better person. I have to know everything...and feel everything😅 I think my Sun is a pretty strong placement: ♓🌞 conjunct North Node & Pallas, 10th house, top of the chart exactly square AC. But I i always feel like I "dont know what to do with it". Jupiter ♉12H near AC, with Mars nearby, opposite Pluto ♏6H. Uranus and Saturn-Neptune ♑8H. Lots of accidents...of all sorts😅🥲 Thank you both for taking the time to cover these interesting details! My Rising & Moon ♊✨♍ feel a lot more comfortable to me, like I can see their funtion and purpose and the skills they offer. I can totally see the difference between my rising vs sun vs moon. After binging, like, everything on this channel lol I can see how each is expressed, how each influences the person I am overall. Learning about my rising sign ♊ vs my Sun sign ♓ was like cracking a code, I IMMEDIATELY identified, and same with with Moon♍, they all explained and clarified so much!!!